Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:05 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n283' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #283 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, 1 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 283 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: virex@io.org (Gerald) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 00:45:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: EPS: 8x mem exp for EPS Classic..? Ever since I installed SCSI on my 4x classic EPS, things have been going wonky.. the power supply seemed to make the system cook eggs n' bacon. But since we picked up a fan to cool the heat sink, things have been a tad better.. at least we can cook drum n' bass now without it crashing. - - Christopher Drost - - nice+smooth studios, toronto > >On Tue, 30 Nov 1993, Christopher Drost wrote: > >> Tom, sorry but you're wrong. >> >> Yes, there's the 8 Output Expander but a third party vendor was making an 8x >> memory expander (Maartex or Maartist was the company, or something similar) >> but they never took off as they made the EPS very unstable... >> >> >From what I heard years back, the EPS would crash constantly and the >> expander would force the EPS to heat up biggie time. >> >> Their 4x expander (with SCSI) built in was a little more successful. >> >> - Christopher Drost >> - nice+smooth, toronto >> > > Good, I'm not crazy. Yes, the name Maartists rings a bell, and I am >almost certain that there was another one. > > Sounds like the EPS power supply is barely adequate for my 4x expander >as it is, but I would think that an expander with outboard power thru a >wall-wart would be a great hardware hack... any thoughts, anybody? > > By the way, many thanks for all the responses..! > > -CMB ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Mik Adams Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 09:10:59 -0800 Subject: Re: EPS: 8x mem exp for EPS Classic..? Gerald wrote: > > Ever since I installed SCSI on my 4x classic EPS, things have been going > wonky.. the power supply seemed to make the system cook eggs n' bacon. But > since we picked up a fan to cool the heat sink, things have been a tad > better.. at least we can cook drum n' bass now without it crashing. > > - Christopher Drost > - nice+smooth studios, toronto > > > > >On Tue, 30 Nov 1993, Christopher Drost wrote: > > > >> Tom, sorry but you're wrong. > >> > >> Yes, there's the 8 Output Expander but a third party vendor was making an 8x > >> memory expander (Maartex or Maartist was the company, or something similar) > >> but they never took off as they made the EPS very unstable... > >> > >> >From what I heard years back, the EPS would crash constantly and the > >> expander would force the EPS to heat up biggie time. > >> > >> Their 4x expander (with SCSI) built in was a little more successful. > >> > >> - Christopher Drost > >> - nice+smooth, toronto > >> > > > > Good, I'm not crazy. Yes, the name Maartists rings a bell, and I am > >almost certain that there was another one. > > > > Sounds like the EPS power supply is barely adequate for my 4x expander > >as it is, but I would think that an expander with outboard power thru a > >wall-wart would be a great hardware hack... any thoughts, anybody? > > > > By the way, many thanks for all the responses..! > > > > -CMB > ______________________ The power supply on the EPS is marginal at best. We have replaced several of them. Another problem might be that there is no address line to support the 8X memory. The Maartists 4X did have a header for an 8X expansion, but I don't believe they were ever produced. We sold the Maartists products many years ago and the 8X was never mentioned. Incidentally, we have customers asking for the 4X which we have not had for some time now. If anyone has one or more available, we would like to hear from you. P.S. Keep up the good work, Garth. Mik Adams SOUND LOGIC 619-484-9817 http://www.ramona.com/Soundlogic ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: canine@muenster.de (K.9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 01:10:03 +0100 Subject: EPS: The last signature post Thanks Garth for your reply. I am posting this to the list to state my opinion that Garth and his company are very aware and valuable users of the net and this list. Rubber Chicken actually does "give back to the net" in many ways I hadn't heard about. I am very impressed about what I read in the last few messages and want to thatnk Garth for reacting so promptly and understanding about his signature. Also: thanks to everyone who said something (either public or in email) in favor of Rubber Chicken's postings. Please understand that I was not critisizing their presence on the list, just the rather lengthy signature. Also I specifically asked the opinion of others. Everything is cool now and I would like to ask everybody who has more to say to reply to me privately to keep this great list free from this thread in the phuture. "Play more music" (Consolidated) Canine - -- __________________________________________________________________________ FHD\SOA\71K9\A9IS\THE\OWLS\ARE\NOT\WHAT\THEY\SEEM\2199\SDFK\SKD\SD\CANINE\ Kai Niggemann fon: +49 - 251 - 661833 johanniterstr 17.48145 muenster. phax: +49 - 251 - 661852 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Tom Jordan" Date: 1 Dec 96 22:02:56 -0500 Subject: Re: EPS: 8x w/ wall wart >Sounds like the EPS power supply is barely adequate for my 4x expander >as it is, but I would think that an expander with outboard power thru a >wall-wart would be a great hardware hack... any thoughts, anybody? Enjoy what you've got, or sell it and get a used 16+. They're a major step up, and the used price should not be too bad. (Maybe $650 - 700) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Jordan Wired for Sound! - computer music for kids http://www.iac.net/~tjordan - ------------------------------------------------------------------ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Tom Jordan" Date: 1 Dec 96 22:09:05 -0500 Subject: Re: EPS: Two Newbie Questions > - How can I combine two instruments into one on an > EPS16+? If I like the high notes on ins1 and the > low notes on ins2, I'd like to make a single ins3 > that is like a permanent keyboard split. Copy the layers you want to a new instrument, and set the keyboard range to limit each layer, and you're done. Use your patch select buttons to give you even more options on soloing and combining layers. Remember to watch your polyphony - you only get 21 "little musicians" at a time. So, don't use up your voices on notes that you can't hear. - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Jordan Wired for Sound! - computer music for kids http://www.iac.net/~tjordan - ------------------------------------------------------------------ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #283 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:06 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n284' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #284 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, 2 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 284 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe_Frost@mh.blyth.com (Joe Frost) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 09:01:22 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: Removable Cartridge Drives and EPS 16+ and OS 1.30 Hi Bob, I use a Syquest EZ135 with an EPS-16+ and have had no problems whatsoever. The drive is quick and seems to be reliable (I have used it for around 1 year). Joe. >Hi Ya'll! > >I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if this has been beaten to death >already. > >I'm looking into the possibility of a removable media HDD for my unit and >according to Ensoniq's outdated (3/96) FAX-back sheet, there are not many >choices out there for my aging box. (Ensoniq's tech support said the list >was current!) Has anyone tried any of the newer EZ Drives with this unit? >Will the ZIP Drive work at all? (They are pretty inexpensive at the >moment). Is there a current compatibility list anywhere? > >Also, when using OS 1.30, after an instrument is loaded, I can not select >it. If I go into edit mode, it plays fine. Is there a workaround for this >problem? (I know about Ensoniq's bugs, I got a VFX too.) > >Anyway, thanks for any info. > >Bob >"One of the Boobs from Sector 7-G" >bparkans@neosoft.com >www.neosoft.com/~bparkans > > >============================================================================= >This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. >If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail >to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Claud Lovelace Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 14:42:49 -0500 Subject: Re: EPS: ASR: Sound wavering? My opinion is that Rubber Chicken is a useful and appropriate contributor to this list, since they make products specifically for owners of Ensoniq equipment. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Christopher Drost Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1993 15:55:45 -0500 Subject: EPS: An appeal for help.. please ? 'alo I finally got around to backing up my entire PC Harddrive and reinstalling my MIDI system. Everything is fine EXCEPT for the fact that one file on disk 2 of Cakewalk Audio 4.0 has become damaged in some way or another. If any of you have CW Audio 4.0 on the PC, could you PLEASE email me the corrupt file from disk 2 (TTSAUD.DL_ or TTSAUD.DLL from the installed version). I really don't want to wait two weeks for twelve tone to send me a new disk when I can remedy it right away with one file. Thanks Much... Christopher Drost nice+smooth, toronto ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 15:48:46 -0600 Subject: EPS: 8x A note on the 8x expander discussion: There were 2 reasons stated that reasoned that an 8x expander was impossible. 1) The wasn't enough support from the power supply 2) The OS did not address the additional memory As Dietz said, "if you want a memory expander for a 16-Plus, buy an ASR!" SO to have a 8x expander, you need a different or addition power supply, and you need to hack the OS (which no one has done). It's interesting to see the way the ASR deals with memory, as opposed to the EPS's. It's like the EPS's have a dedicated spot for the OS, and use overlays. The ASR seems to use all the memory as one pool, and loads the whole thing in. The ASR OS is bigger than the EPS's - and that's not even counting the Akai/Roland translation stuff (which added 33% to the OS). This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Matt Chinn Date: 02 Dec 96 17:37:08 EST Subject: EPS: A few 303 emulators for your PC Thought a few of you might want to check these out (sources pulled from various mailing lists)! murmur ____________________________________ here's the two nifty programs for anybody's PC a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a Roland MC-303.. ; ) - - ---------- > From: John Latino > To: Troy Sheets > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com; socal-raves@UCSD.EDU > Subject: Re: PC-303! (there goes the bandwidth!) (fwd) > Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 10:58 AM > > I downloaded RubberDuck last night and was really impressed. It's a > truly great program- it works very well and is A LOT OF FUN! For even > better results, use it in conjunction with SEQ-303, which is yet another > tb-303 emulator. From the helpfile: > > "Seq-303 is an analog sequencer emulator for Windows 95 and Windows NT. > Seq-303 was inspired by many of the great analog sequencers of yore, > including the Serge TKB, ARP 1613, PaIA 4700, Korg SQ-10, and of course > the venerable Roland TB-303." > > I used SEQ-303 to set up a basic rhythm in the background, then used > RubberDuck to overlay some neat acidy-goa sounds. > > You can get SEQ-303 from > http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win95/sounds/seq303.zip/index.html > > -John > > > Troy Sheets wrote: > > > > >From Analogue-Heaven: > > > > ------------------- > > > > from the pb-cle-raves mailing list::::: > > > > >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:28:45 -0500 (EST) > > >From: Christopher Newton > > > > >Ok kids.. for all you analogue freaks out there, I have discovered what > > >might be the most insane program ever. It's called "RubberDuck", and it > > >is basically a fun little virtual tb-303 for PCs. Some kids from Germany > > >developed it, and let me just say that it sounds incredibly realistic. > > > > > >You can generate up to 14 pages of acid lines on it's built-in sequencer, > > >mess around with the attacks and slides for each note, then REAL TIME > > >screw with the modulation, the overdrive, the cut-offs, u name it. Plus, > > >u can set the sequencer to run your pages randomly, creating a totally > > >insane and constantly changing acid frenzy. It has to be seen to be > > >believed. > > > > > >The US mirror site is awfully slow (around 815k, but slow throughput) but > > >believe be it is well worth the download for those who want to play > > >around with the sounds but don't have the cash to drop on an actual bass > > >line or other gear. > > > > > >This is the download of the century, IMHO. > > > > > >German site: > > > > > >http://www.waste.uni-essen.de/d-usion > > > > > >US Mirror site: > > > > > >http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gruschow/rubduck.dip > > > > >It came through pretty quick for me -- you can find it at > > >http://pantheon.yale.edu/~sklar/dj/rubduck.zip if the uiuc one is > > >still slow. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Bob Dixon Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 19:11:35 -0600 Subject: EPS: Mellotron Sample? Does anyone know where I can find a Mellotron string sample for the ASR10? thanks, bob "i haven't been able to think of a good signature" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #284 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:07 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n285' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #285 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, 3 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 285 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pinto Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:10:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: EPS: eps: Looking for program to learn keyboard I am looking for a program (preferably shareware) that will teach me how to play keyboard. I want to use the asr10 hooked up via midi (got all that down)... so i just need a program that will do this.. any recomendations.. and any idea where I can find the program you recomend. (I will take the former even if you dont have the latter) thanx And now back to my regularly scheduled self destructive behavior, - Pinto - ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Amar Chaudhary Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 23:32:10 -0800 Subject: EPS: Fender Rhodes sample? Hi. I'm currently looking for a 60's/70's electric piano (i.e. - Fender Rhodes) sound for my ASR-10. So far I have been very unsatisfied w/ what I've heard: they sound too much like a filtered accoustic piano or that DX7-ish "bar mitzvah" piano. Any pointers would be most appreciated. WAV/AIFF and commercial solutions are OK, too. Thanx. -Amar - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Amar Chaudhary | "In this house, we obey the laws of amar@bmrc.berkeley.edu | thermodynamics!" -Homer Simpson - ------------------- http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/~amar -------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Joe_Frost@mh.blyth.com (Joe Frost) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:12:08 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: Removable Cartridge Drives and EPS 16+ and OS 1.30 Hi Dag, Okay, make sure that you have a good SCSI cable (nice and thick - usually means it's shielded pretty well), don't use SCSI id 3 for the drive as the EPS is hard wired to use this. I do use OS 1.30 (this shipped with the SCSI interface when I bought it). Do you have anything else that you can test the SCSI controller with - an external SCSI hard disk for example, just to eliminate the fact that the problem could be with the interface. I once had to open up my machine a re-seat the memory and SCSI boards as my machine was not detecting the extra memory and was having problems with SCSI. I hope this helps, Joe. > > >Hello Joe! > >My name is Dag Carlsson and I come from Sweden. >I also have an EPS+ and a SyQuest EZ-drive135, >but it doesn=B4t work together. >Do you think it is because I don't have the OS 1.30? > > >Best regards > >Dag Carlsson ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Just Call Me T Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 03:09:52 -0600 Subject: EPS: Zip drive question... I have a question about these toys: If I use it for my EPS, can I still use it for my PC? Or is it a one deal thing? I mean, can I use it for both if I need to use it for one or the other? Thanks in advance! ********************************** T The Artist Formerly Known As Roger "I Only Wanted 2 See U Bathing In The Purple Rain" "Purple Rain" by Prince ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Kent Hedman Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 10:23:02 +0100 Subject: EPS: EPS tools & Epsilon Hi! I have downloaded the shareware versions of EPS/ASR tools (Rubberduck) and a program called Epsilon which I've tested for a couple of weeks now. I would like to hear some opinions which one of these program you guys (and girls?!) use out there (PC/Windows environment). In my opinion the EPS/ASR tools program looks and feels more "professional" and have more options than Epslion, but I have a feeling that it's quite unstable though. I don't want to spend money registering both of the programs. (Anyone has the registration-code for either of 'em ?! *smile* ;-) PS! Is there any sites out there carrying EPS samples nowadays?! The Wozzeck library is closed and all I've found is a couple of samples on a finnish website. I've also found a bunch of Roland/DX27 samples with lousy sound qual. (too much background noise) Best regards Kent Hedman, Sweden ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Dietmar Tinhof Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:46:05 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: 8x Hi all, Garth wrote: >From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." >Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 15:48:46 -0600 [...] >There were 2 reasons stated that reasoned that an 8x expander was impossible. > >1) The wasn't enough support from the power supply >2) The OS did not address the additional memory > >As Dietz said, "if you want a memory expander for a 16-Plus, buy an ASR!" Uh ... what? Garth, I thought that was me quoting _ you_?!? 8-) But what the heck ... yes guys, as I always say: "If you want a memory expander for a 16-Plus, buy an ASR!" :-) Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://www.x3network.net/sing/bands/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Stewart Lindenberger Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 16:12:39 -0800 Subject: EPS: eps price reduced! FOR SALE - just lowered prices: EPS classic sampling velocity sens. keyboard w/SCSI & 2X memory excellent condition - large library of sounds - $525 By the way, it is a particularly good unit, since the friend I bought it from was one of the ones who initially obtained one from ensoniq that had some problems, so he yelled & screamed, & sent it back & they put in new boards & connectors & went over it with a fine-toothed comb - just before I bought it from him so there have been zero problems with the unit & it was only used lightly at home. TASCAM 80-8 10" reel-reel deck w/ built in very effective DX-8 dbx noise reduction - individual vu meters & gain controls - $500 one track is dead (individual internal track electronics module, NOT the heads) - includes three hi quality tapes & handy wired remote ---> Respond quickly: these will be used in a package trade-in deal if I don't hear from anyone in a few days KORG Poly-6 w/ MIDI!!! excellent shape w/ carry bag $350 (warning - a friend gets first divs on this one if he wants it) add shipping from central NJ fo all items (deck is heavy) Stew Lindenberger w- 908-582-4734 h- 908-940-6393 wsl@bell-labs.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #285 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:08 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n286' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #286 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, 4 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 286 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Olsen Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 03:40:37 -0600 Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #285 >From: Kent Hedman >Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 10:23:02 +0100 >Subject: EPS: EPS tools & Epsilon [snip] >PS! Is there any sites out there carrying EPS samples nowadays?! The >Wozzeck library is closed and all I've found is a couple of samples on a >finnish website. I've also found a bunch of Roland/DX27 samples with >lousy sound qual. (too much background noise) [snip] SoundCentral carries nearly every sample available (freeware/shareware only) for the Ensoniq EPS/ASR series. They are attempting to expand to other Ensoniq models as well. They will soon have the former Oakland archive online and part of Wozzeck's files as well. The main URL is "http://www.soundcentral.com" and the Ensoniq URL is "http://www.soundcentral.com/keyboard/ensoniq/index.html" Good luck, - --James ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: David Steigerwald Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 08:41:20 -0500 Subject: Re: EPS: eps: Looking for program to learn keyboard Pinto wrote: > > I am looking for a program (preferably shareware) that will teach me how > to play keyboard. I want to use the asr10 hooked up via midi (got all > that down)... > I have a program called Piano Works which I got from Lehigh, but I believe you can get it several places. I don't have the number handy. Another option which was quite popular a couple years ago was the Nintendo system (which later came out with a PC version) called Music Time! or something (knowing my memory it isn't anything like that). They are both sort of juvenile but effective. They are not free, however, or even cheap, both being $50 to $100. The program is useful, I actually bought Level 2 because that better matches my ability. Anyway, it has reading and timing exercises and delves into some music theory, but it really is an adjunct to learning to play. No one wants to just play exercises, and that's all any music software can really offer. I suggest you would do well to get the software and learn the basics, maybe buy a book with some simple piano versions of songs you like to augment it. When you start to find you don't practice any more go sign up for some lessons, you will find the live teacher will make a huge difference to your playing and to your interest level. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: CHRIS BLAIS Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 13:10:50 +0000 Subject: EPS: SUBSCRIBE subscribe cblais@mnsi.net ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #286 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:08 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n287' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #287 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, 5 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 287 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Dixon Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 19:59:52 -0600 Subject: EPS: problems with ede.exe hello-- i have been trying to use ede to transfer eda sample files to a floppy with no success. the program reports "sector not found" errors. i've tried many different floppys (HD) as well as two different computers with the same results. has anyone run into this problem or have suggestions as to other software to try? thanks, bob ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #287 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:09 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n288' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #288 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, 6 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 288 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ClarkovSaturn Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:43:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: EPS: ASR 10 SCSI installation?? Didn't someone here say they installed a SCSI themselves not too long ago?? Does anyone know how to do this? I found one lying around that I'd like to install. P.S. A belated word of appreciation and support for rubber chicken and its, his, their contribution to the list. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o Clark ov Saturn, Trucking Mogul; D.D.S, Ph.D., M.D., B.A., B.S. o o LD-50 noise tamer/singer; Olestra connoisseur; o o Cigar taster Bubble Bath Inspector Toy Tester World Pong Champ o o COME SQUAT WITH ME: o o http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~cjnelson o o the old one works every once in a while http://164.92.26.37/ o ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: MARIANI@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil (Mariani, James) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 13:06 EST Subject: Re: EPS: problems with ede.exe What operating system are you using? I have found that Giebler's EDE and EDM only work in DOS, Windows 3.x, and Windows95. They do not work under WindowsNT. "Sector not found" is a common error in these programs; it's usually the result of a bad diskette. I've had to try as many as 5 or 6 disks before getting a good copy. Hope this helps, - -Jim Mariani hello-- i have been trying to use ede to transfer eda sample files to a floppy with no success. the program reports "sector not found" errors. i've tried many different floppys (HD) as well as two different computers with the same results. has anyone run into this problem or have suggestions as to other software to try? thanks, bob ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #288 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:10 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n289' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #289 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Saturday, 7 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 289 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gerry Leone <102027.3452@compuserve.com> Date: 07 Dec 96 00:39:29 EST Subject: EPS: Problems with EDE Hi there, Bob - >i have been trying to use ede to transfer eda sample files to a floppy >with >no success. the program reports "sector not found" errors. i've tried >many different floppys (HD) as well as two different computers with the >same results. has anyone run into this problem or have suggestions as to >other software to try? I had the same problem and contacted Gary Giebler. It turns out my problem was because I'm using disk compression (DriveSpace3 from Win95) on my hard drive. Apparently what happens is that the downloaded file is saved to my hard drive in compressed format, rendering it unable to be copied to a floppy. Gary suggested that I run the program from an uncompressed drive. Hope that helps. -Gerry Leone 102027.3452@compuserve.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Simon@husbands.demon.co.uk (Simon Husbands) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 96 16:44:12 GMT Subject: EPS: Atari ST sound conversion Greetings to all! I have an Atari ST and an EPS 16+. Anyone know of a way to transfer samples from the 16+ to the Atari so I can use samples from the EPS in my web site? I know there is a program called ZeroX which does it but it's way too much money - I'm looking for a simple conversion kit. Failing this - I'm trying to get hold of the midi specifications for the EPS, but Ensoniq seemed to not want to help me. I'm really after the sysex headers that call Midi sample dumps so maybe I can figure out a program myself. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance! Simon __ =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= Your friend and mine, SIMON HUSBANDS simon@husbands.demon.co.uk And for a bit of stuff and nonsense http://www.husbands.demon.co.uk =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Dave Huizing Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:56:44 +0100 (MET) Subject: EPS: File Formats Hi all, Is there anyone that can help me with the documentation on the ensoniq file formats? Thanx in advance, Later on, Dave ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:34:28 +0100 Subject: EPS: Re: Atari ST sound conversion Simon wrote.. >Failing this - I'm trying to get hold of the midi specifications for the EPS, >but Ensoniq seemed to not want to help me. I'm really after the sysex headers >that call Midi sample dumps so maybe I can figure out a program myself. Can >anyone help? I'm sad and a little surprised to hear there are problems getting the sysex specifications of the Ensoniq samplers when that is so easy to get hold of in USA. Simon is writing from the UK according to his email adress. I have heard people have problems in other countries too. I don't know the distribution channels at all, but if you need someone to blame ( I always do:) I think you can put it on the people you have dealt with or your country's Ensoniq agent. If they are unwilling to help you, thats unheard of. I would threaten with playing my music outside their shop/door. ( In my case that would definitely have triggered instant first class service :-) You need to tell them to get the External Commands Specification for the EPS16+ Workstation from Ensoniq if they don't have it. It is reasonable that you pay postage charges, or pay for any Xerox copying, otherwise it is free from Ensoniq. So we have all paid for your copy and are thus anxious that you will get it. The Ensoniq samplers do not use a standard Midi sample dump, so you need the specifications to write a program. A simple program for doing what you want for your own use should be easy. If you want to expand on it you may perhaps find the C code Midi libraries for the EPS of some use >I know there is a program called ZeroX which does it >but it's way too much money - I'm >looking for a simple conversion kit. I've not heard of it. How much is way too much? Another idea: If you have an MS-DOS/IBM-PC emulator for your Atari ST,then you could use simple MS-DOS utilities you find at oak. Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: ClarkovSaturn Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:12:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: EPS: SCSI--noise--help! Let's say you installed the SCSI, it works fine, formats a removable disc, etc. but there's a terrible noise coming from the ASR, whether or not you have a SCSI device connected now... ???? a solid humming kinda noise. please help! ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o Clark ov Saturn, Trucking Mogul; D.D.S, Ph.D., M.D., B.A., B.S. o o LD-50 noise tamer/singer; Olestra connoisseur; o o Cigar taster Bubble Bath Inspector Toy Tester World Pong Champ o o COME SQUAT WITH ME: o o http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~cjnelson o o the old one works every once in a while http://164.92.26.37/ o ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Edward Barrett Date: Sat, 7 Dec 96 21:41:46 -0500 Subject: EPS: EPS & SCSI Hi there. I bought my EPS Classic second hand about 4 years ago, and, being curious, I took off the back panel "expansion" panel or whatever it was called. Anyway, I know I have the 4x memory expander, but the board it's on says "EPS 4x + SCSI". What I'd like to know is, is the SCSI connector floating around loose in the board somewhere or is it an add-on type thing? Edward Barrett ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Robert Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 17:31:52 -1000 Subject: EPS: ASR + Mac = SCSI Problems Aloha from Hawaii I am having problems moving samples from my ASR to my Mac for editing in alchemy has anyone gone through this process and can recommend how to do this? I have a zip drive which works great with either the mac or the ASR but not together!!! will they even work together on the same SCSI chain? robert campbell ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #289 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:10 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n290' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #290 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, 8 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 290 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Heather McVay Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:51:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: EPS: EPS & SCSI Hi Just curious to know if anyone has every lost data on a scsi 100meg ZIP disk? Now that I have a ZIP drive, I seem to be sampling everything from old records to the chinese food delivery man coming over my intercom system. It would be a shame to lose good samples. I know the rules about backing up data, I am just curious to see if anyone has had any problems. Other questions: Is anybody sampling anything crazy lately around the house??? What do people think about the Roland TB303? Enjoy the sounds, -Heather- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Simon@husbands.demon.co.uk (Simon Husbands) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 96 14:50:58 GMT Subject: EPS: Eps to atari sound conversion Thanks for the advice on the above - I actually got into quite a debate with the Ensoniq people, and basically was told they wouldn't give me the information I needed. They suggested I contacted the Ensoniq reps over here in the UK, Key Audio. I did this, but they didn't have the specs, so they told me they would contact Ensoniq (!) for me and get them sent over. I'm still waiting. Maybe I should contact Ensoniq myself direct by mail again. Bugger....... The ZeroX program costs œ150 UK pounds, about 250 bucks - too much for what I need. It's a really good program ( I've tried the demo ) but the demo won't allow any saves! It basically allows a lot of sample manipulation, but of course, I've got an EPS, which does everything I need right now. Sadly, there are no DOS emulators for the Atari that I know of - I guess I shouldn't be using this Atari any more, but I just love it! That's another story, though! Bye! Simon __ =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= Your friend and mine, SIMON HUSBANDS simon@husbands.demon.co.uk And for a bit of stuff and nonsense http://www.husbands.demon.co.uk =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Rocheleau David Eric Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:39:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: EPS: SCSI--noise--help! On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, ClarkovSaturn wrote: > Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:12:52 -0700 (MST) > From: ClarkovSaturn > Cc: eps@oak.oakland.edu > Subject: EPS: SCSI--noise--help! > > Let's say you installed the SCSI, it works fine, formats a removable > disc, etc. but there's a terrible noise coming from the ASR, whether or > not you have a SCSI device connected now... ???? a solid humming kinda > noise. > > please help! > > ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > o Clark ov Saturn, Trucking Mogul; D.D.S, Ph.D., M.D., B.A., B.S. o > o LD-50 noise tamer/singer; Olestra connoisseur; o > o Cigar taster Bubble Bath Inspector Toy Tester World Pong Champ o > o COME SQUAT WITH ME: o > o http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~cjnelson o > o the old one works every once in a while http://164.92.26.37/ o > ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > I have no particular knowledge of electronics, but if you are stuck with a hum type of sound(60Hz if you're in north america), you may have a ground problem in your SCSI port connection. (no kidding, you may) Here is what I would do to locate the problem, Verify your wiring un-install the SCSI port and see if things are back to normal, see if this could be a ground loop inside the machine, try isolating the port from the casing, worship deamons, exorcise your machine or finally, Hang yourself.(if all else fails) I hope you resolve your problem. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: ClarkovSaturn Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:58:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: EPS: SCSI--noise--help! > > Let's say you installed the SCSI, it works fine, formats a removable > > disc, etc. but there's a terrible noise coming from the ASR, whether or > > not you have a SCSI device connected now... ???? a solid humming kinda > > noise. > > please help! > Verify your wiring > un-install the SCSI port and see if things are back to normal, Did this, and it was fine. reinstalled the SCSI, noisy again, deinstalled, no noise. thanks for the feedback. clark ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:34:55 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: Eps to atari sound conversion This letter now has to do more with Ensoniq international service perhaps more than the original title. Simon say.. >- I actually got into quite a debate with the >Ensoniq people, and basically was told they wouldn't give me the information I >needed. They suggested I contacted the Ensoniq reps over here in the UK, Key >Audio. I did this, but they didn't have the specs, so they told me they would >contact Ensoniq (!) for me and get them sent over. I'm still waiting. Maybe I >should contact Ensoniq myself direct by mail again. I think it has been standard procedure with these kind of arrangements - ( like Key holding a UK monopoly on importing goods from Ensoniq ) that all contact to the customer should go through the agent. ( Key ) Thus Ensoniq should refer you back to Key as they did. The only reason for contacting Ensoniq should be when the situation is completely locked. You may then not get your document, but you could get a new agent. But you have to give your agent some time and you have to remind them about your request and remind them about notifying you. I had an experience with the Sysex command specification to the EPS many years ago. I had to go through the agent in Netherland ( They are not an agent for Norway anymore, luckily ). I wrote 14 letters asking for the document over a period more than a year. No luck. During a visit in USA I called Ensoniq Customer Service and got the document sent to my hotel the next day. It is my impression that getting these command specifications works OK in the USA, but there are other places ( Canada, Italy, UK, ... ) where this is very difficult. It may be an improper suggestion; someone with a US adress could perhaps help you. You could try getting the best offer from the US civiians on the list; Who would ship you the Ensoniq External Command Specifications for the least? Some college student could start a big industry selling Midi specifications for the Ensoniq synths for $100 a piece! They can not copy it without permission of coarse, but they can sell their free copies for whatever they like? Or if you were planning on buying for example sounds for your EPS/ASR/TS and the sound producing company did not have an agreement with a local agent, you could try to ask if they would function as your US adress for the external command specification and if you paid a little extra they would ship it to you with your other goods. Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Gavin Payne Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:03:43 -0000 Subject: EPS: unsubscribe unsubscribe eps ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: emilyl@erols.com Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:55:05 -0800 Subject: EPS: VIVO 90 or HD recording? just wondering if anyone knows anything about using the Ensoniq VIVO-90 for Hard disk audio recording? I know it can handle simultaneous playback/recors and has a s/n ratio of 90db, but how does it interface with Cakewalk Pro Audio 5, Saw Plus, Samplitude 2.05, Digital Orchestrator Plus 2.11, or any other program? Any info that can be provided will be appreciated. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Peter Randlette Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 17:50:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: EPS: SCSI--noise--help! You have a ground hum bwtween the scsi drive powersupply and the ASR. Are they plugged into the same outlet strip? On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, ClarkovSaturn wrote: > Let's say you installed the SCSI, it works fine, formats a removable > disc, etc. but there's a terrible noise coming from the ASR, whether or > not you have a SCSI device connected now... ???? a solid humming kinda > noise. > > please help! > > ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > o Clark ov Saturn, Trucking Mogul; D.D.S, Ph.D., M.D., B.A., B.S. o > o LD-50 noise tamer/singer; Olestra connoisseur; o > o Cigar taster Bubble Bath Inspector Toy Tester World Pong Champ o > o COME SQUAT WITH ME: o > o http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~cjnelson o > o the old one works every once in a while http://164.92.26.37/ o > ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Peter Randlette Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 17:54:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: EPS: ASR + Mac = SCSI Problems I just got the newest alchemy from passport, and will be trying their suggested setup. To summarize, use an ASR formatted drive in the chain. Boot it first. boot the Asr turn on any other drives in the chain boot the mac. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE NO CONFLICTS IN SCSI ADDRESES!!!! The new macs set their cdrom drive to 3 (same as ASR) with internal jumpers on the back of the fu**in' cdrom, so you have to go inside, and remove a jumper. Tell me how you do!! I have been waiting to get the stupdi asr to work witrh a mac scsi chain for a few years now. My eps16+s work perfectly. On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Robert wrote: > Aloha from Hawaii > > I am having problems moving samples from my ASR to my Mac for editing in > alchemy has anyone gone through this process and can recommend how to do > this? I have a zip drive which works great with either the mac or the > ASR but not together!!! will they even work together on the same SCSI > chain? > > robert campbell > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #290 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:10 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n291' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #291 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, 9 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 291 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mik Adams Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 23:08:15 -0800 Subject: Re: EPS: EPS & SCSI Edward Barrett wrote: > > Hi there. I bought my EPS Classic second hand about 4 years ago, and, > being curious, I took off the back panel "expansion" panel or whatever it > was called. Anyway, I know I have the 4x memory expander, but the board > it's on says "EPS 4x + SCSI". What I'd like to know is, is the SCSI > connector floating around loose in the board somewhere or is it an add-on > type thing? > ______________________ Edward, It sounds like you have the Maartists 4X. It is totally internal, so the expansion port cover can be reinstalled after installation. The SCSI I/F is a daughter board that piggy-backs onto a 10-pin header on the 4X. There are two ribbon cables. One goes to a header on the main board and the other goes to the SCSI connector on the back. Things are looking good for having the SCSI I/F for the EPS and EPS16+ available after the first of the year. The boards are designed and we are in the process of having the boards made and stuffed. We'll keep you posted. Mik Adams SOUND LOGIC 619-484-9817 http://www.ramona.com/Soundlogic ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: tellaura@aztec.asu.edu (GREGORY M. BRETTELL) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 00:22:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: EPS: System Exclusive Specs/EPS-16+ If anybody wants copies of this spec., I am willing to accomodate them at cost. Contact me for further info. Gregory M. Brettell email: tell_laura@asu.campus.mci.net - -- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:58:23 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: SCSI--noise--help! Clarke wrote.. >> Let's say you installed the SCSI, it works fine, formats a removable >> disc, etc. but there's a terrible noise coming from the ASR, whether or >> not you have a SCSI device connected now... ???? a solid humming kinda >> noise. >> You say the noise is there even when no SCSI is connected. Let's completely eliminate the possibility that your drive or it's grounding has anything to do with the problems by a) unplugging the SCSI cable b) unplug the AC cord of the hard disk. If it went away you are lucky. If you still have noise, then your SCSI interface is not properly installed or it is broken. You said you had installed it twice. I suggest first take the SCSI card out again. Look carefully at the legs of the ad-on board if one could have been bent, Straighten it if so. At the same time inspect the board for visual damage like exess solder, cracks in the copper lines and the likes. It never hurts.( My SCSI interface had visible faults causing intermittant failiure which were easy to fix with a knife ) If this fais you better get professional help either from a shrink or an electronic engineer. Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Leon Henry Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 14:12:57 +0000 Subject: EPS: Which software to use Season Greatings to one all This is my first year on this list an i must say that all the idea's which have come from the list have been fabbbb... I have a question to you all i wish to copy samples to my pc from my EPS classic to convert them to wav files i have down loaded to convert & the awave program and had not any joy also that other programe for the wozak site (written by mr chicken himself ) this kept on crahing on my windows 95 system can anybody inlighten me what i need to get and do...-- I have a ruuning widown's 95 64 Meg of ram and a Pine sound card with the ESS drive installed ************************************ : FOR THE BEST IN : : Musical Production : /): (Leon henry Director) :(\ / ): Henryp@dircon.co.uk :( \ _( (_************************************_) )_ (((\ \) /_) (_\ (/ /))) (\\\\ \_/ / sorry about this \ \_/ ////) \ / greater thar 4 l \ / ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: arc-angel@cityscape.co.uk (arc angel) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:18:12 +0000 Subject: [none] Hi, I am trying to get (steinburg's) ReCycle and (passport's) Alchemy to work with my EPS 16+ , ASR 10 and K2000 In trying to send samples with ReCycle via midi to the EPS 16+ and ASR 10 I get the following error message "could not send sample...check if your sampler has enough memory" My samplers have enough memory....I think the problem is that ReCycle automatically sends the samples with loop points and that somehow corrupt or confuse the ASR 10 or EPS 16+ I have had a similar problem doing SCSI transfers to the K2000 where if I did a batch tranfer to the K2000 I'd have to manually go through each sample turning the loop funtion off before playing the sample. robert campbell sais........ > I am having problems moving samples from my ASR to my Mac for editing in > alchemy has anyone gone through this process and can recommend how to do > this? I have a zip drive which works great with either the mac or the > ASR but not together!!! will they even work together on the same SCSI > chain? Robert, I have managed to get samples via midi to the ASR 10 with Alchemy but have never had any joy via SCSI, Like you I am on the quest to sort this out , IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS GOT EITHER ALCHEMY OR RECYCLE TO WORK ? I really don't mind just using midi transfer with ReCycle as I'm just cutting up small loops any way and I have about 14 different SCSI storage devices in my studio already which have been SCSI hell already.... I have installed OMS speciffically for this purpose and have been frustrated by this message : "could not send sample...check if your sampler has enough memory" .... after spending a whole day getting the OMS to see the EPS 16+ , ASR 10 and the K2000 _________ ___________ <\________\----------__ ___+ ___---------/__________/> <\_______\------\\\\\ / \ /////-------/________/> <\______\-----\\|| ( . . ) ||//-----/______/> \_____\----\\ \ _ / //-----/_____/ \________\--\_ ) \ _ )))---/_____/ \___/ ( ) _/_____/ The Arc Angel home page is at http://www.gold.net/users/du27/index.html The Arc Angel 'eye in the sky' CU-seeme reflector site is at :- 194.72.155.2 conf id 2828 party time 8.p.m on Sundays G.M.T (dress code.....strange) - -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMMixfb61hA0Y1mlVAQGD7QH/ZP9y0APzHiHVBl/aybEaJRHE233QwqQ5 Zp7vTBNm6JSLx4yEGxrLjJBMsKZ6JMzMwVH+ziElZkjPxPlhvJhB3g== =aH2h - -----END PGP MESSAGE----- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. 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In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Leon Henry Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 14:48:04 +0000 Subject: EPS: help on which Eps program > Season Greatings to one all > > This is my first year on this list an i must say that all the idea's > which have come from the list have been fabbbb... > > I have a question to you all > i wish to copy samples to my pc from my EPS classic to convert them to > wav files > > i have down loaded to convert & the awave program and had not any joy > also that other programe for the wozak site (written by mr chicken > himself ) this kept on crahing on my windows 95 system > > can anybody inlighten me what i need to get and do...-- > > I have a ruuning widown's 95 64 Meg of ram and a Pine sound card with > the ESS drive installed > ************************************ > : FOR THE BEST IN : > : Musical Production : > /): (Leon henry Director) :(\ > / ): Henryp@dircon.co.uk :( \ > _( (_************************************_) )_ > (((\ \) /_) (_\ (/ /))) > (\\\\ \_/ / sorry about this \ \_/ ////) > \ / greater thar 4 l \ / - -- ************************************ : FOR THE BEST IN : : Musical Production : /): (Leon henry Director) :(\ / ): Henryp@dircon.co.uk :( \ _( (_************************************_) )_ (((\ \) /_) (_\ (/ /))) (\\\\ \_/ / \ \_/ ////) \ / \ / ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 10:02:48 -0600 Subject: Re: EPS: Which software to use I still suggest the Tools program for you. It right now is in beta-form for Version 3.2 - thus the crashes. It will convert .wav files to the following formats: Any Giebler Disk Image (.eda, .ede) Any Giebler File Image (.efe, .efa) GKH format (.gkh, .ins) It also can do what AWAVE, SoundVert, or anything else can't (for the PC) - it can place a .wav file within an existing File Image or Disk Image - anywhere in that instrument! Awave and Soundvert can only do 1 Wavesample per layer, and it has to be the only Wavesample in that layer. You can also edit any parameter you want on that instrument before committing to disk. And you can write to the floppy or SCSI device from the program itself. OK, we're biased - we wrote the program - but check the specs out and decide for yourself. EPS/ASR Tools for Windows is $59.95 - but if you are looking for a lower cost version, get TS/MR Tools for Windows - it has the same capabilities, only the MIDI editing capabilities are not there. That is $39.95. If you are concerned about the crashes - I hope to get the 3.2 out of beta-form by the end of the week. But the Disk Utilities section works fine right now. Any questions - please contact us - we are happy to help. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "William A. Edmondson" Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:27:09 -0500 Subject: Re: EPS: System Exclusive Specs/EPS-16+ Re> If anybody wants copies of this spec., I am willing to Re> accomodate them at cost. Re> for anyone that already has the spec, i have a question. the copy that i have appears to have inaccurate definitions for the eps parameter codes. has anyone noticed this? by the way, i believe that my copy is dated october 1990. another thought that crossed my mind is that it would be great if ensoniq would permit us to post the sysex spec on the web. it would make a useful on-line reference. thanks, bill. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Rocheleau David Eric Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:56:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: EPS: SCSI--noise--help! I'm sorry it didn't work, By the way, never mind the two last options. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Rocheleau David Eric Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:00:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: EPS: System Exclusive Specs/EPS-16+ You can get them free by asking directly to Ensoniq, that's how I got mine for the ASR-10, On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, GREGORY M. BRETTELL wrote: > Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 00:22:43 -0700 (MST) > From: GREGORY M. BRETTELL > To: eps@oak.oakland.edu > Subject: EPS: System Exclusive Specs/EPS-16+ > > > > > If anybody wants copies of this spec., I am willing to > accomodate them at cost. > > Contact me for further info. > > Gregory M. Brettell > email: tell_laura@asu.campus.mci.net > > > > > > -- > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #291 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:11 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n292' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #292 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, 10 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 292 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Chinn <70004.4322@compuserve.com> Date: 10 Dec 96 09:45:03 EST Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #291 Rubber Chix said: >>I still suggest the Tools program for you. It >>right now is in beta-form for Version 3.2 - thus >>the crashes. It will convert .wav files to the >>following formats: >>Any Giebler Disk Image (.eda, .ede) Any Giebler >>File Image (.efe, .efa) GKH format (.gkh, .ins) Does tools convert .ede, .efe., .efa., .gkh., and .ins files to .eda? mattc ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:58:47 -0600 Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #291 At 09:45 AM 12/10/96 EST, you wrote: >Does tools convert .ede, .efe., .efa., .gkh., and .ins files to .eda? Yes - all of them. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Anders Wikholm" Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 20:01:04 +0000 Subject: EPS: Pioneer DR-U124X CD-ROM Has anyone tried using the Pioneer DR-U124X CD-ROM with an ASR-10? Does Pioneer SCSI drives work in general? /AW - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Anders Wikholm (anders.wikholm@atcit.mil.se) aka MOULIN NOIR (http://www.geocities.com/~moulin_noir) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Dietmar Tinhof Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:54:09 +0100 Subject: EPS: EPS & Alchemy Hi everybody - there were some fellows on the list with problems running Alchemy together with an EPS/ASR. To coin a phrase: Alchemy rules. I quit owning Macs quite some time ago (went the Windoze-way --- no flames, please). Nevertheless, there was one program which I always admired for it's unparalleled features (unparalleled at least on a PC): Alchemy. I used Vers. 2.xx (can't remember at the moment), which allowed direct interaction between the Mac and my 16+: A wavesample was transferred via SCSI to the sample in the same moment when an edit occured! In this way, I could always here my sounds with all my parameter-programmings (try this with your avarage sound-card :-P) I can't remember any hassels, using a small Classic with about 4 MB RAM. Worked like a charm. As a matter of fact, I bought a used LC for little money only a week ago, with just one goal in mind: running Alchemy. I will tell you my renewed experiences as soon as I found the time to blow the dust off my old disk-box to grab the diskette. Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://www.x3network.net/sing/bands/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Dietmar Tinhof Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:54:11 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: EPS & SCSI Hi all - >From: Heather McVay >Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:51:26 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Re: EPS: EPS & SCSI > > Hi > > Just curious to know if anyone has every lost > data on a scsi 100meg ZIP disk? > > Now that I have a ZIP drive, I seem to be sampling > everything from old records to the chinese food delivery > man coming over my intercom system. It would be a shame > to lose good samples. I know the rules about backing up > data, I am just curious to see if anyone has had any problems. Yes, me. Twice. One time on my PC, apparently due to wrong termination (... the machine gave the impression of saving everything as usual, but found only data-trash the next time. No chance for recovery.). A second time there were problems with an earlier version of Giebler's EDM, when the program was buggy: The file-allocation-table was destroyed in one case. Gary Giebler himself recovered this disk (with the exception of one Subdirectory) - for free, BTW (thanks again, Gary); the bug got fixed in the meantime, so don't worry. Otherwise, the ZIP seems to be a robust, reliable data-storage-device. And yes, backups are the best idea in a computerized world since Cntrl-Alt-Del ;-) Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://www.x3network.net/sing/bands/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #292 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:12 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n293' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #293 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, 11 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 293 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lj.Garrett" Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:49:57 +1100 Subject: EPS: panasonic cdrom drives Since someone asked about pioneer cdrom drives, Does anyone know anything about panasonic scsi cdrom drives, do they work with the asr10? Thanks Lj ****************************** \\|// Lynden J Garrett (o o) ~ _____________________________ Midi arranger & performer Lj.garrett@hunterlink.net.au ******************************** ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: MARIANI@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil (Mariani, James) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 09:36 EST Subject: EPS: TS program editor Does anyone know if a PC patch editor for the TS exists? Does RCS's tools work with the TS or just with the ASR/EPS? I'm really tired of editing sounds on the tiny TS display. Thanks, Jim ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Jyrki Arpiainen Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:08:30 +0200 Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #290 > Other questions: > > Is anybody sampling anything crazy lately around the house??? >YEEA. > What do people think about the Roland TB303? > - -POPular nowadays.. :( -Too much is too much. BTW; YO buddy! -who has Wave Boy:s Demolition Disc: Could u tell me everything about it? - -What it makes ? :o ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:39:14 -0600 Subject: Re: EPS: TS program editor At 09:36 AM 12/11/96 EST, you wrote: >Does anyone know if a PC patch editor for the TS exists? Does RCS's >tools work with the TS or just with the ASR/EPS? I'm really tired of >editing sounds on the tiny TS display. Only samples. I would recommended MIDI Quest, by Souund Quest. I believe that is the only one. We are considering upgrading TS/MR Tools with patch editing/librarian capabilities. We are much more likley to do it if there is a barrage of requests. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: bee charles m Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:34:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: EPS: EPS Classic with Amiga.. Hi all, can anyone suggest a wave/parameter editor for Amiga that's a good match for the Classic? I want something like Rubber Chicken's Tools program, but can't afford PCMCIA scsi for my laptop. I'm running an Amiga 3000 with Bars and Pipes pro (love it) in 10 meg of ram, so I got plnty o' space... Any suggestions..? -CMB ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Rocheleau David Eric Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:54:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #290 On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Jyrki Arpiainen wrote: > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:08:30 +0200 > From: Jyrki Arpiainen > To: eps@oak.oakland.edu > Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #290 > > > Other questions: > > > > Is anybody sampling anything crazy lately around the house??? > >YEEA. I all depends what you call crazy. All I ever use is samples from "around the house". One of my last pieces is made up of samples from 64 antique toasters. Now I'm working on a piece made up of samples that varry from bicycle stands to cans being draged on the ground, bottles rubbed on a tiled floor, heavy chariots being smashed on elevator walls, close micing of two inch magnetic tape being streched.etc, etc, etc.... There's nothing crazy about that. these are all rough un edited sound sources to be put to music. No matter where your sound comes from, you can make music out of it. JUST DONT USE PRESETS ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: CHRIS BLAIS Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:27:52 +0000 Subject: EPS: RE: SONIQ DEMOLITION "BTW; YO buddy! -who has Wave Boy:s Demolition Disc: Could u tell me everything about it? - -What it makes ?" Hello Jurki To answer your question regarding the new Waveboy FX disk its really different. There is basically 3 types of Fx available on one disk; GRAIN-STORM PITCH-WARP LO-FIDELITY To basically quote the small manual it goes like this: The GRAIN-STORM effect uses a technique called granular synthesis. In graphic terms, this effect chops the incoming sound into short grains, and then sprays them across the spectrum. Like an air-brush, the spray has control for how wide an area it covers. Each grain gets a different, randomly selected length and frequency. Since there are thousands of grains per second, one pitch turns into a cloud of different pitches, but no pitch is dominant because they are all changing so rapidly. WHAT KIND OF SOUNDS DOES IT MAKE? The grains material is the incoming audio. Each grain has a different pitch, however, so the combination they can destroy any sence of pitch in the original sound. If you put a pure sine wave intro the GRAIN-STORM, the output is a random collection of short beeps at many different pitches. At some setting it sounds like a R2D2. With richer material, the individual pitches are hard to hear. It becomes a dense block of sound,. whose dynamics and shape follow the incoming sound. At extreme settings, and with feedback, it sounds less and less like the original and more like a rainstorm. When set for very small pitch deviation, it produces a chorus-like spatial enhncement, the grains are spread out across the stereo field. PITCH-WARP This effect is a transposes pitch, but in an unusual way. It uses a technique called frequency shifting. and finally LO-FIDELITY LO-FIDELITY simulates various systems that distort sound. It is a serial chain of effects: high-pass filtering; pre-emphasis filter, clipping, dc drift, quantization, and then further EQ and band-limiting. WHEW Well I hope this helps. I'll let you know how well it works later. Since I literally just received it last week. I plan on using it on some sampled loops that I've been creating with a couple of old synths I've been using (JUP-4 & MONO-POLY) and I'll let you know. See ya Chris Blais cblais@mnsi.net PS/ Sorry about taking up so much bandwidth guys! ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #293 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:02:12 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n294' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #294 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, 12 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 294 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: billj@arnie.cfi.unsw.EDU.AU (Bill Jaramillo) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:47:26 +1000 Subject: Re: EPS: TS program editor Is Rubber Chicken still considering making a Mac version of either EPS/ASR or TS/MR Tools? You talked about it on the list a while ago, but nothing's been said since. Even though I own a Mac, my co-writer has a PC and I would probably buy TS/ASR tools if it had a patch editor. >We are considering upgrading TS/MR Tools with patch editing/librarian >capabilities. We are much more likley to do it if there is a barrage of >requests. > >This message from: >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* Garth Hjelte * >* Rubber Chicken Software Co. * >* 714 5th Street SE * >* Willmar, MN 56201 USA * >* * >* 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * >* WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >============================================================================= >This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. >If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail >to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > >------------------------------ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Cooper, Matt (NBC)" Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 13:51:00 -0500 Subject: EPS: TS-12 used price?? Hey all, I recently saw a TS-12 used for $1200, which I thought was a fair deal, but when I went to Nadine's here in LA the guy told me he wouldn't pay more than $800 for one. He wasn't talking about the TS-10, I made sure, so what's a fair price and/or a good deal? Anybody selling? 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In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #294 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:33 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n295' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #295 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, 13 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 295 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Haakon Berg Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:07:45 +0100 Subject: EPS: Sounds wanted..... Hello, Does anyone know where to get hold of *good* (ASR) samples of - -marimba - -xylophone - -steel drums (jamaican style) - -sitar - -tabla Thanks, haakon.berg@alcatel.no ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Daniel Heila Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:43:03 -0500 Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #294 unsubscribe please unsubscribe me from the mailing list ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Gerry Valle Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:49:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: EPS: Panning, Channels Hey all, I've asked these questions before but I received no responses so I'm asking again: 1) Is it possible to make the ASR respond to MIDI pan commands (controller 10) from an external sequencer/controller? If someone was able to achieve this, how did you do it? 2) Is it possible to control/play instruments on the ASR via MIDI channels 9-16 from an external sequencer? Again, if you were able to do it, how did you do it? Thanks a lot for your help, Gerry ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: tellaura@aztec.asu.edu (GREGORY M. BRETTELL) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:59:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: EPS: System exclusive data F.Y.I. The spec. I have is dated: Wed, Jul 28, 1993. I was ONLY trying to help someone that could not get it from Ensoniq ... because they live in the Netherlands. I offered to send it to them for merely the cost of the photocopies + postage (no compensation for time, etc.). (Above statement in response to MANY people telling me that they can get it for free from Ensoniq.) I'm only trying to help ...... Greg - -- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:33:25 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: Panning, Channels Gerry wrote.. >1) Is it possible to make the ASR respond to MIDI pan commands > (controller 10) from an external sequencer/controller? If > someone was able to achieve this, how did you do it? For those instruments you want responsive to pan, you should edit the instruments. [Edit][Inst][Edit]<_INSTNAME LYR=A WS=ALL> [Amp] To have it respond to incoming Pan values like 0 = all left, 64 = center , 127 = right, I _hope I've got it right when I say ... You have to set both the pan position and the modulation amount. I think the amount above should be 100, try that. and I think you set the [Amp] Then you should set the external control number equal to the pan control by [Edit][System] >2) Is it possible to control/play instruments on the ASR via MIDI > channels 9-16 from an external sequencer? Again, if you were > able to do it, how did you do it? In MULTI mode you can set the base channel to 9 [edit][system] Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: davin@usa1.com (Davin C. Flateau) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:35:46 -0500 Subject: EPS: WTB: ASR-10 SCSI Kit I'm looking for a new or used ASR-10 SCSI kit. If used, it must be in good condition. EMail: davin@usa1.com Davin C. Flateau - davin@usa1.com http://www1.usa1.com/~davin/ http://www.laserfantasy.com/pltm/ - ----------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Tim K." Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:34:19 +0100 (MET) Subject: EPS: Sysex and.. It was very kind of you to help, maybe I can throw in my 2 cents as well: There is a usergroup for EPS/ASR in Belgium which also posts in Holland. This is called the Belgian Ensoniq Association, and anyone interested can mail me directly for telephone numbers and info. Tim > > > > F.Y.I. > > The spec. I have is dated: Wed, Jul 28, 1993. > > I was ONLY trying to help someone that could not > get it from Ensoniq ... because they live in the > Netherlands. I offered to send it to them for > merely the cost of the photocopies + postage > (no compensation for time, etc.). > > (Above statement in response to MANY people > telling me that they can get it for free from > Ensoniq.) > > I'm only trying to help ...... > > Greg > > > > -- > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "David.A.McCann" Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:19:47 +1100 Subject: EPS: hello and a question... Hi, I'm new to the list, my name is David, I live in Sydney Australia, re-loacted from Adelaide 2 years ago, and I have had an EPS classic since they were first released, and I love it, know it inside out, I have been producing techno/jungle/rave music for many years and playing as DAMC at raves and clubs all around Australia with my trusty old EPS, and I also am the keyboardist/song writer/programmer with a cross over (techno/rock-funk/trip-hip hop) band called BLISS, and have also toured around Australia with them, so over the years my poor old EPS has been given a fair amount of abuse, hence having the disc drive replaced twice, the mod and pitch wheels replaced, and the screen/user input circuit board replaced to keep me going...anyway it's still going strong, and I still love my EPS :) I also sequence all my songs with the internal sequencer, and find it a lot faster to get results than using computer seq. :) Anyway just a quick question that has been on my mind for years.. Lets say I sample a single note of an analog synth, with a long duration, and over that duration the filter goes from bright to dull, ok fine, Now I can play back that sample and move the start point of the sample by modulating it with the mod wheel, so in affect create and sequence the filter changing of a sampled sound, but something I have been trying to get to work for a long time, is to modulate the start point of the sample with the LFO, you are able to set it up, and assign it, but it does not work..why? this is my question... thanks DAMC ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DAMC on the www: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~damc BLISS on the www: http://www.magna.com.au/~kymbo/friends/bliss/b_bliss.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Brent A. Christian (Burnt)" Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:57:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: EPS: Panning, Channels On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Gerry Valle wrote: > 1) Is it possible to make the ASR respond to MIDI pan commands > (controller 10) from an external sequencer/controller? If > someone was able to achieve this, how did you do it? Off the top of my head, this cannot be done the easy with with simple pan messages. However, I believe it is possible through SysEx. > 2) Is it possible to control/play instruments on the ASR via MIDI > channels 9-16 from an external sequencer? Again, if you were > able to do it, how did you do it? I would guess that your eight instruments can respond to any eight channels you like from the 1-16. If you REALLY want to use 9-16, this isn't a problem... @}----;------ -Burnt ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #295 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:34 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n296' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #296 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Saturday, 14 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 296 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Russell T. Graham" Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:48:34 -0500 Subject: Re: EPS: hello and a question... David.A.McCann wrote: \> Now I can play back that sample and move the start point of the sample > by modulating it with the mod wheel, so in affect create and sequence > the filter changing of a sampled sound, but something I have been trying > to get to work for a long time, is to modulate the start point of the > sample with the LFO, you are able to set it up, and assign it, but it > does not work..why? this is my question... Make sure your LFO is not configured to reset. If it resets to zero on every keypress, every keypress is going to start your sampled filter from the beginning. - -- _ ___ _ _ _ [) | | ( ( [_ | | | / [) /_\ |_| /_\ |\/| |\ \_/ ) ) [_ |_ |_ |. \_] |\ | | | | | | | | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 06:54:49 -0600 Subject: Re: EPS: hello and a question... At 11:19 AM 12/14/96 +1100, you wrote: >Now I can play back that sample and move the start point of the sample >by modulating it with the mod wheel, so in affect create and sequence >the filter changing of a sampled sound, but something I have been trying >to get to work for a long time, is to modulate the start point of the >sample with the LFO, you are able to set it up, and assign it, but it >does not work..why? this is my question... You probably haven't set the DEPTH on the LFO to a higher value than 0. Turn it to 99, and set the MOD AMT/RANGE on the Wave page to the desired amount. Remember to adjust the LFO AMT in the PITCH page so you don't get Vibrato all over the place. Or at least turn it down. I was in a band where they kept getting us confused with your band. It was called Ignorance (if anyone doesn't get this joke, please e-mail me privately - warning, I'm on flame alert...). This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Dietmar Tinhof Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 14:52:08 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS: hello and a question... >From: "David.A.McCann" >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:19:47 +1100 >Subject: EPS: hello and a question... > >Hi, I'm new to the list, my name is David, I live in Sydney Australia, [...] Hi David, nice to have you on this list. Lots of EPS-"longtimers" like you around here ;-), so you should feel quite comfortable pretty soon ... >Anyway just a quick question that has been on my mind for years.. > >Lets say I sample a single note of an analog synth, with a long >duration, and over that duration the filter goes from bright to dull, ok >fine, > >Now I can play back that sample and move the start point of the sample >by modulating it with the mod wheel, so in affect create and sequence >the filter changing of a sampled sound, but something I have been trying >to get to work for a long time, is to modulate the start point of the >sample with the LFO, you are able to set it up, and assign it, but it >does not work..why? this is my question... You _did_ consider that your LFO will always start at the same point, as long as you didn't turn of the parameter RESET off? If RESET=ON, your LFO will always begin a new cycle when a key is pressed -> hence no effect on SAMPLE START, even if you change the MOD AMOUNT value to maximum. Otherwise, the LFO will modulate continuously (sp?) and change the start point of your sample (--- of course you are aware of the fact that you will encounter some heavy clicks and pops, when SAMPLE START hits larger wave-amplitudes, esp. on low-frequency-material, so be careful ;-) Hope this was the answer! Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://www.x3network.net/sing/bands/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "David.A.McCann" Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 09:13:54 +1100 Subject: EPS: re: hello and a question... Thanks for your answers, but most of this I know, and have set up the settings as advised by you all, I will have a play with it more, but I have had my EPS long enough to know how to set it up so that it should work, but it just doesn't, can you get it to work on your machines? thanks :) DAMC ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #296 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:35 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n297' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #297 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, 15 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 297 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Loeb Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:05:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: EPS: efe for Macheads? Hi, i'm a Mac owner, and and ardent websurfer, and an ASR-10 owner, and a scEPSi owner, AND an epsM owner. YET: I still can't figure out how to get .efe format files (like the ones you download from SoundCentral) into a format i can write to an Ensoniq formatted diskette. (EPSm doesn't have any conversion option which deals with this format in its Morph menu.) Can anyone help me?? thanks in advance, jon BioMuse Productions San Diego, CA ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: hararcwf@eexi.gr (Chuck Farmer) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 15:27:53 +0200 Subject: EPS: hello I haven't recieved any EPS digests in a couple of weeks. You guys still there? Can someone email me if they read this. Thanks, Chuck Farmer Digital Sweet Athens Greece ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: hararcwf@eexi.gr (Chuck Farmer) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:27:11 +0200 Subject: EPS: Re: Welcome to eps-digest Thanks for the many replys to my query about what happened to my EPS email. It seems to not be that uncommon of a problem. I automaticaly received a welcome to EPS message so I think it's already sorted out. Sure like this list, glad its still happenin, Chuck Farmer Digital Sweet Athens Greece ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: amperror@worldonline.nl Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 02:52:23 +0000 Subject: EPS: FX PROCESSOR ASR10 Uh, new on this list.. Don't even know if there is anybody on here right now, but I guess I will notice soon... Ok I do jungle music with an asr10 and some other synths on an atari st and also have a pc... Always looking for new sounds and stuff... Now are there any pc tools with strange fx algorythms or tools where you can design your own fx algorythms. I know there is stuff like that on the mac, and aphex twin is heavily into it I guess, hehe, but are there similar tools on the pc?? Second questions, are there any fx editing tools for the asr10? Third question, are there any other fx add ons available for the asr10, besides, the resonant filters which I already have... I mean, sounds are easy to find, but I don't need any really... But I haven't any fx stuff on www... Strange cause you can like load new fx into your asr10, so I kind of figured there were a lot more then the regular 50... Uh, if anybody replies about this... Thanx in advance.. Amp Error Dutch Junglistic HQ The ultimate jungle mod collection http://www.digiface.nl/~amp/ amp@digiface.nl ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: Bob LaValley Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:49:47 -0400 Subject: EPS: manual/new os/tips? hello everyone. i've got an eps 16+and i want to get into producing jungle and jazzy/hip hop-y stuff. i kinda just got my eps and it dosen't have a manual. i'm also using 1.10 os. could i get the manual and new os from ensoniq? anyway... if anyone could give me some tips on how to use my keyboard please respond. thanks!! -justin ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #297 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:36 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n298' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V2 #298 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, 16 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 298 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David.A.McCann" Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:30:55 +1100 Subject: Re: EPS: manual/new os/tips? Bob LaValley wrote: > > hello everyone. i've got an eps 16+and i want to get into producing > jungle and jazzy/hip hop-y stuff. i kinda just got my eps and it dosen't > have a manual. i'm also using 1.10 os. could i get the manual and new > os from ensoniq? anyway... if anyone could give me some tips on how to > use my keyboard please respond. > thanks!! -justin you will NEED a manual, here is a hint to make JUNGLE: dont use individual drum hits!!, sample 'breakbeats' and chop them up into copies of it's self, assign the copies of the breakbeat sample to different keys, with each sample starting at a different point of the beat (all at the same pitch), and then listen to lots of jungle, experiment, and I'm sure you can work out how to put the choped up breakbeat back together to make it sound like jungle. DAMC ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Cristobal Mendoza" Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 00:51:10 -0400 Subject: EPS: Re: FX PROCESSOR ASR10 Ampy: > Ok I do jungle music with an asr10 and some other synths on an atari > st and also have a pc... Always looking for new sounds and stuff... That is the whole point... > Now are there any pc tools with strange fx algorythms or tools where > you can design your own fx algorythms. I know there is stuff like > that on the mac, and aphex twin is heavily into it I guess, hehe, but > are there similar tools on the pc?? PC? Yes my friend, there are plenty. Goldwave, a Windows sample editor, will let you create your own function to manipulate the wave, it is pretty crazy what you can do if you know what you are doing. It has its share of fx's, of course. But if you really want to manipulate the fx's, get Cool Edit. Great quality plus a lot more control and options that a mortal would need. Virtual Waves, a french program from Fretless International will let you generate waves from almost every known synthesis technique (oscillators, additive, noise, etc.) plus it will process your waves through its share of effects (delays, filters, spectral modulation, etc). It is sort of an object based soft synth, very good stuff. I must have every known soft synth out there; I love the fact that I have never touched an analog synth in my whole life, yet I have digitally reproduced every sound they make, and then some. Viva la digital Eddie Vedder!!! If you want more info, just say so. END v.0.99 ZMA ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: david Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:16:32 +-200 Subject: EPS: Israeli or other sound converters ahalan! I'm looking for guys in israel who read this list, for meeting and changing information . and if some one could once and for all specify what soft\hardware is needed for converting sounds to asr format. i meen really, the hole procedure step by step. i'm asking this cause i think i got all the programs but somehow i cant get an asr sound on an asr formated floppy. and ofcorse i presume that its about the same procegur for taking sounds from the net and putting them on the scsi hard disk. so if anyone has the time, please answer. thanks David friedland david@concepts.co.il ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: ClarkovSaturn Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:04:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: EPS: WTB: ASR-10 SCSI Kit On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Davin C. Flateau wrote: > I'm looking for a new or used ASR-10 SCSI kit. If used, it must be in good > condition. > EMail: davin@usa1.com Be forwarned: I heard from a reliable source (and have some personal experience, soon to be discussed here) that listers have been 0 for 8 on getting these second hand and installed correctly. I stumbled onto a second hand one and tried to install it, seems simple, but it buzzes. There must be some "secret" to getting these things installed correctly, beyond just undoing the ribbon connector, screwing in the SCSI interface, connecting the three ribbons and going. Seems there must be a secret grounding thing going on. 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In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: ClarkovSaturn Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:16:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: EPS: you have ASR10 K w/ SCSI? please read If you have one of these, perhaps you can help out millions (well ok, maybe just a few of us) of poor souls who dared to take an opportunity to get a SCSI card from someone other than an ensoniq dealer. I just found out it's going to be another 3 weeks before they'll even open mine up to see why it has this terrible noise with the SCSI in and not without it. Must be a faulty installation. Does anyone know any thing else that needs to be done besides connecting the 3 ribbon connectors, attaching the card to the chasis, attaching the port to the casing ? ? Does anyone know a cool and friendly repair person or installer who does these who may know what else needs to be done? Could anyone please please open up your ASR10 KEYBOARD with SCSI and see if there is a ground connected anywhere in addition to the 3 ribbons? Any other telltale signs of special grounding? Anything else that may need to be done upon installation? I'm at a total loss here. Seems like it should be quite easy, but there must be something else you do besides just connect the connectors and go. If there is extra grounding, where specifically??? thanks and happy holidays. clark ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:02:47 -0600 Subject: Re: EPS: efe for Macheads? At 09:05 PM 12/14/96 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, i'm a Mac owner, and and ardent websurfer, and an ASR-10 owner, and a >scEPSi owner, AND an epsM owner. > >YET: > >I still can't figure out how to get .efe format files (like the ones you >download from SoundCentral) into a format i can write to an Ensoniq >formatted diskette. (EPSm doesn't have any conversion option which deals >with this format in its Morph menu.) > >Can anyone help me?? Thought this would be a nice question to write about. Any Ensoniq file on the NET or in your computer is called an IMAGE. That's because it is essentially a photograph of the bytes that are on the floppy/SCSI disk, plus a header of some sort. There are two type of images - - DISK and FILE, Disk Images are photograph of the entire disk, which means all the files and the FAT. File Images are just the file part, with a header as well. Since the EPS came out, there have been varied PC utilities to take images from Ensoniq media. The first, I believe, was the EPSRead/Write suite by Goh King Hwa. That introduced the GKH format, which it is just a header and the Ensoniq Disk Image. Another came out, called EPSDisk. This used the GKH format, and combined the utilities into one program. It added formatting and other things. Giebler's Ensoniq Disk Manager made another format, called EDE and EFE. EDE's are Disk Images and EFE's are File Images. Again, these files are just the Ensoniq image with a header. But there are two main differences between Gieblers and the GKH format. One is that Giebler's header is 512 bytes long, and keeps everything within the file at 512 byte (which is a BLOCK) boundaries. Another is that Giebler uses a "skip table". This keeps track off all the unused blocks of 512 bytes. Then the empty blocks are NOT written to the file, making the file smaller. That way, the PC file will be the same size as the information on the file, and will not have to be 819000 bytes, or 1600000 bytes al the time. I feel that Gieblers format is the better one. As time went on, the programs adapted themselves with the new HD ASR format. Gieblers was then able to read SCSI disks, and he has also made some of his own formats, like the ability to archieve whole directories, etc. EPSDisk started using the File Image format, and used the .INS extension. The current version of EPSDisk extracts .INS from GKH images, and guess what - they are the .EFE format of Gieblers! An EFE format file is a FILE IMAGE format. The Giebler Ensoniq Disk Extractor, that is available on the Web (shareware), only will WRITE (not read) DISK IMAGES (not file images). On the Mac side, Terje Finstad has made EPSm, which does the same thing. It can read foreign ED* image files. I do not believe it can read EF* File Images. So.. 1) You will need to find some way to convert the EFE to a disk image. I don't know how you would do that. So, you are probably asking, why did you guys at SoundCentral put oup all the sounds in the EFE format, and alienate all the Mac users? Good question. We are in the process of changing everything there to the .ED* Giebler format, and instead of gzipping everything, we are using PKZip. SO every Ensoniq file will be in the .EDE or .EDA file format, and PKZipped, so all wioll ahve the .zip extension. Macs can easily unzip things, and you can use EPSm to get the ED* file onto a floppy for your Ensoniq sampler to read. The one problem with that is - it's only one Disk Image per sound. Wouldn't it be nice if you could compile a bunch of EFE's online into one EDE ONLINE... and then download that Disk Image? Yes... We are also trying to work on a freeware (not shareware) compiler so you can do this. SC wuold do the compiling for you, and you can use the FREEWARE extractor to unzip and write the file to the Ensoniq floppy. No word on availability. Hope that helps. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:02:44 -0600 Subject: Re: EPS: FX PROCESSOR ASR10 At 02:52 AM 12/16/96 +0000, you wrote: >Now are there any pc tools with strange fx algorythms or tools where >you can design your own fx algorythms. I know there is stuff like >that on the mac, and aphex twin is heavily into it I guess, hehe, but >are there similar tools on the pc?? That is quite the cool item, but it doesn't exist (yet). Ensoniq and Bill Mauchley and Prosoniq are the only ones that have made effect algorithms for the EPS/ASR series. >Second questions, are there any fx editing tools for the asr10? See above. >Third question, are there any other fx add ons available for the >asr10, besides, the resonant filters which I already have... I mean, >sounds are easy to find, but I don't need any really... But I haven't >any fx stuff on www... Strange cause you can like load new fx into >your asr10, so I kind of figured there were a lot more then the >regular 50... The Waveboy Effects are the only available effects algorithms. There are the Parallel Effects, the Audio-In things, the Rez Filter, the Soniq Demolition Disk, and the Voder. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ From: "Michael Eringis" Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:50:31 -0500 Subject: EPS: Re: ASR SCSI For anyone interested, there's a used ASR SCSI port available at Rogue Music: http://www.roguemusic.com/news.html Ensoniq ASR10 SCSI Port............$250 - -- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #298 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:37 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n299' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #299 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, December 17 1996 Volume 02 : Number 299 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:52:43 -0500 From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: Re: EFE EDE EFA EDA etc > An EFE format file is a FILE IMAGE format. The Giebler Ensoniq Disk > Extractor, that is available on the Web (shareware), only will WRITE (not > read) DISK IMAGES (not file images). Just for clarification: The Ensoniq Disk Extractor takes a disk image file on the PC and writes the image back to a floppy diskette. The result is an exact copy of the original Ensoniq diskette. How to read our file extensions (EFE EFA EDE EDA etc): The first letter represents the manufacturer ('E' for Ensoniq). The second letter is 'F' for a file image or 'D' for a disk image. The last letter represents the product family: S = SQ-80 or ESQ T = TS E = EPS A = ASR M = Mirage V = VFX-SD or SD-1 K = KT (midi transfers) Q = SQ families (midi transfers) Gary Giebler Giebler Enterprises 26 Crestview Drive Phoenixville, PA 19460 USA Voice: (610) 933-0332 Fax: (610) 933-0395 e-mail: giebler@aol.com Web: www.giebler.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:33:32 +0100 From: Kent Hedman Subject: EPS: Running NT with EPS specific software! Hi! I'm having thoughts about installing NT again on my machine and my Q is if someone has any experience in running Epsilon, EPS/ASR tools and EPSDISK in NT? Will the direct-disk access when saving banks, instruments etc. work in these programs or do I have to run DOS/Win95 for this purpose? Best regards! Kent Hedman, Sweden ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:50:19 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: Re: EPS: efe for Macheads? Hi Garth, thanks for your comprehensive info. Maybe you should think about adding your message to RCS's OnLine-FAQ, so we all now where to direct future questions to? >From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." >Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:02:47 -0600 >Subject: Re: EPS: efe for Macheads? [...] >An EFE format file is a FILE IMAGE format. The Giebler Ensoniq Disk >Extractor, that is available on the Web (shareware), only will WRITE (not >read) DISK IMAGES (not file images). As I own the full-blown EDM since quite som time, I never had any reason to use the Disk Extractor; so please allow a maybe silly question: The Extractor will write PC-files to Ensoniq-disks(that's what I thougt until I read your statement quoted above) - or the other way round ?!? >On the Mac side, Terje Finstad has made EPSm, which does the same thing. It >can read foreign ED* image files. I do not believe it can read EF* File >Images. Another question of an old Intel-dummy :-) --- is EPSm shareware or $oftware? If it's shareware, would you please tell me a valid URL for downoading, as I would like to add this to the utility-links on my small FTP-site. [...] >The one problem with that is - it's only one Disk Image per sound. Wouldn't >it be nice if you could compile a bunch of EFE's online into one EDE >ONLINE... and then download that Disk Image? Yes... We are also trying to >work on a freeware (not shareware) compiler so you can do this. SC wuold do >the compiling for you, and you can use the FREEWARE extractor to unzip and >write the file to the Ensoniq floppy. No word on availability. Lots of work - but a great idea in the spirit of the 'Net :-) Thanks again for your efforts! Dietz / ASL PS: Garth, your package arrived savely this morning. Thanks. A question, though ----> see next message, please. Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:50:22 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: EPS: WAVeBOY Soniq Demolition -> update? Hi all, especially Garth or anybody from WAVeBOY - Some time ago, some people from this list encountered some strange problem with an algorithm supplied with the otherwise _great_ "Soniq Demolition"-FX-package (invented by WAVeBOY, distributed by RCS). A quote from my own message: >maenad wrote: >>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 96 17:41:19 +0100 >>Subject: Re: EPS: grain storm >> >>The are some problems with the grainstorm effect on some but not all >>EPS16+ machines. When I load it into mine it just flips out! Making all >>sorts of nasty noises without any instruments loaded! >>I called WaveBoy and they said they are working on the problem.... [... and I added:] >The same here - although the "Grain Storm" could be the most powerful of all >"Sonic Demolition" FX, it is simply without any use on my EPS 16+. BTW - - I got >the same reply from WAVeBOY, but this was quite some time ago, so I won't >hold my breath for an update. I _really_ want to use this Granular Synthesis-thing, but I simply can't. Garth, WAVeBOY - is there any chance for us to get the stuff working? At least, we all paid for it .... I will happily compile any info concerning my setup (and ask the others to do so, too), if this is of any help. Does anybody know WAVeBOY's e-mail...? Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:10:07 +0100 From: yseulys@filnet.fr (yseulys) Subject: Re: EPS: WTB: ASR-10 SCSI Kit > >Be forwarned: I heard from a reliable source (and have some personal >experience, soon to be discussed here) that listers have been 0 for 8 on >getting these second hand and installed correctly. I stumbled onto a >second hand one and tried to install it, seems simple, but it buzzes. >There must be some "secret" to getting these things installed correctly, >beyond just undoing the ribbon connector, screwing in the SCSI interface, >connecting the three ribbons and going. > >Seems there must be a secret grounding thing going on. The subject of my >next post.. > Hello to all SCSI interface Hackers. Here is my personal (and limited) contribution: - - I recently bought a (third) ASR, and had problems when sampling and playing at 44k through the digital I/O (noises, cracks etc.). Brought it back to authorized repairer, who detected a minor problem in SCSI interface installation. This SCSI interface definetely seems ticklish as a Hungarian princess, and the node of many suprising noises, especially on the keyboard version (never had problem on my ASR-10 Rack). Even connecting/unconnecting the SCSI plug must be done carefully, especially when you screw/unscrew the cable's connector: too tight, you might destroy the screw (or later unscrew the ASR's connector instead of the cable's one), too loose communication problems appear and screws might bend or break even with a small amount of cable tension. Thanks to every contributors (questionners & answerers) on this really friendly and USEFUL list! Michel Risse "The French Collection" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:07:06 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re: EPS: Running NT with EPS specific software! At 10:33 AM 12/17/96 +0100, you wrote: >I'm having thoughts about installing NT again on my machine and my Q is >if someone has any experience in running Epsilon, EPS/ASR tools and >EPSDISK in NT? > >Will the direct-disk access when saving banks, instruments etc. work in >these programs or do I have to run DOS/Win95 for this purpose? Tools will not run properly on NT. It might be tested on it next year. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:07:16 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re: EPS: WTB: ASR-10 SCSI Kit At 01:10 PM 12/17/96 +0100, you wrote: >Here is my personal (and limited) contribution: >- I recently bought a (third) ASR, and had problems when sampling and >playing at 44k through the digital I/O (noises, cracks etc.). Brought it >back to authorized repairer, who detected a minor problem in SCSI interface >installation. >This SCSI interface definetely seems ticklish as a Hungarian princess, and >the node of many suprising noises, especially on the keyboard version >(never had problem on my ASR-10 Rack). Even connecting/unconnecting the >SCSI plug must be done carefully, especially when you screw/unscrew the >cable's connector: too tight, you might destroy the screw (or later unscrew >the ASR's connector instead of the cable's one), too loose communication >problems appear and screws might bend or break even with a small amount of >cable tension. > >Thanks to every contributors (questionners & answerers) on this really >friendly and USEFUL list! > >Michel Risse "The French Collection" I have a hard time getting you at your e-mail - it bounces frequently (thus the message to the list - sorry). Just wanted to let you know. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 00:52:42 +0100 From: Fredrik Grafstroem Subject: EPS: Re: EPS/ASR Tools At 20:22 1996-12-17 +0000, you wrote: >Yes, unfortunately this program is no good. > >I bought the first version. >And i have been upgrading regulary, with the hope that the bugs would >disappear. > >Have not tried the last one. > >It has never worked satisfactory. > >And therefore I have not been using it for any work with the Asr-10. > >Its a shame. > >Carl Arne > > Yes I agree, and I think everyone else should, that is having problems with this program. I give you one more chance Rubber or I will skip this program for good, sorry. Fredrik G. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:39:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Marraccini Subject: EPS: Occasional downtime expected on this list All of the lists served on oak.oakland.edu will be occasionally unreachable between December 22 and December 27, 1996. I'm moving the oak.oakland.edu system several times during the holiday break as we reorganize our network. Downtime shouldn't be more than a couple hours, but if I drop something... it could be longer. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope you have a safe and enjoyable holiday season! Jeff Jeff Marraccini jeff@oak.oakland.edu OCIS Network & Integration Services 810/981-0568 Oakland University "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia Jeff Marraccini's Home Page ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #299 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:38 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n300' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #300 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, December 17 1996 Volume 02 : Number 300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:25:52 -0500 From: kearney Subject: EPS: 16+ and power macs Hi all, I just upgraded from a Mac II nubus system to a Power Mac PCI system and the mac does not recognise my 16+. I've done every possible diagnostic:Bad SCSI cable,wrong or conflicting ID #,I've plugged in other drives with the same ID#3 and they show up just fine.I've double checked everything in the Alchemy app I'm using with the same results. Midi data passes through no problem,but no SCSI action,or worse the system locks. Does anyone know if the EPS's don't like the faster PCI power Macs? Like I said things were cooking right along with my old Mac. kearney ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:39:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Marraccini Subject: EPS: Occasional downtime expected on this list All of the lists served on oak.oakland.edu will be occasionally unreachable between December 22 and December 27, 1996. I'm moving the oak.oakland.edu system several times during the holiday break as we reorganize our network. Downtime shouldn't be more than a couple hours, but if I drop something... it could be longer. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope you have a safe and enjoyable holiday season! Jeff Jeff Marraccini jeff@oak.oakland.edu OCIS Network & Integration Services 810/981-0568 Oakland University "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia Jeff Marraccini's Home Page ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #300 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:38 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n301' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #301 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, December 18 1996 Volume 02 : Number 301 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:08:46 -0500 From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: Re: EPS/ASR Tools In a message dated 96-12-17 22:03:48 EST, you write: > Tools will not run properly on NT. It might be tested on it next year. > > This message from: > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * Garth Hjelte * Then why do you continue to advertise that EPS/ASR Tools will run on NT? ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:16:26 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: EPS: Tools problems I don't want to discuss RCS matters really on this list, but I do need to address an issue that has cropped up. My apologies to the waste of bandwidth. EPS/ASR Tools right now is in transition - it is a beta version of a new version that will be out before the end of the year. I would appreciate anyone who downloads the program from our site and runs it, to let us know what they encounter and what they think of the program. The program was working very well up to the 2.7 version, and the early versions of 3.0, but we are since making a major reworking of the program. We have thus "demoted" the program to BETA status, and we invite anyone who wants to to download the program and evaluate it. The reason I address this is that there is a person (I don't mind saying his name - Fredrick Grafstrom), that generally is disatisfied with the program and has been e-mailing around to the people on the list about it. Finally he went from "undercover" to put a list post on it: At 20:22 1996-12-17 +0000, you wrote: >Yes, unfortunately this program is no good. > >I bought the first version. >And i have been upgrading regulary, with the hope that the bugs would >disappear. > >Have not tried the last one. > >It has never worked satisfactory. > >And therefore I have not been using it for any work with the Asr-10. > >Its a shame. > >Carl Arne > > >Yes I agree, and I think everyone else should, that is having problems with >this program. I give you one more chance Rubber or I will skip this program >for good, sorry. > >Fredrik G. I would appreciate that notices about the program come to me directly and not through the list - if you are going to quote a conversation like was done above. No need to waste the bandwidth. I have been trying to reach Fredrik to help with the problems, but his mail has bounced on me frequently. I even posted to the list asking for him. Again, to reiterate, Tools is in Beta right now just for the reasons Carl Arne and Fredrik stated. The were previous versions that worked very well. I just wish they would have came to me recently about it - I have received a note from either men in at least 4 months. Frederik and Carl, send me your beta lists! Or just hang on until it's done. Or ask for your money back. Any are accepted. We believe Tools will become the standard program to use for the serious EPS/ASR users. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:18:06 GMT From: "Andy Brown" Subject: EPS: Mac serial port program Hello, Slightly off topic I'm afraid, but I know a lot of you guys use Macs out there... I'm looking for info on software which may be available for the Mac which will allow me to download a binary file in X-modem format, via the serial port on the computer, from the Mac to another device which has an RS422 port. I've seen a thing called MacCommCentre, which I think comes bundled with modems, but is there any other program, perhaps freeware, that would be easily accessible toany Mac user? (We at Soundcraft are looking to provide a way of doing software upgrades to our Ghost console, to allow people to download new software from our Web site, and transfer it to the console -hence the question). Thanks- Andy Brown ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:40:07 -0600 From: Derek Jackson Subject: EPS: Good Morning! Good Morning !!! Attachment Converted: "c:\download\WINMAIL.DAT" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:26:08 -0400 From: "Cristobal Mendoza" Subject: EPS: I've had it I am tired of having this peice of junk crashing on me every second. I have fans to cool it off, I have my room at a constant 22o C, I have the latest OS and yet, my EPS 16+ crashes with more regularity every day. I have the SCSI option, the 4X memory expander and the FB-2 flashbank. Please, somebody give me the secret formula to make this thing work. I have lost just tonight 5 or 6 samples. I am very tired. v.0.99 ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:49:53 -0600 (CST) From: Phillip Stafford Subject: EPS: EPS classic SCSI HD I've noticed the EPS prefers really short SCSI cables, more so than any other piece of equipment I've ever seen! Has anyone ever gotten two hard drives to work with a classic? I had it working once but never again. Even if I put the terminator on the last drive and turn it off the EPS never sees the terminator. I think it's the extra 2 feet of cable but the total length is much less than 6 feet, even including all the internal wiring - plus these are fantastic (re: expensive) SCSI cables. I don't think I can get any shorter or I'd just have a stub of a cable sticking out of the back of the keyboard. Anyone else had experiences like this? Sincerely; Phillip Stafford Department of Biological Sciences University of Arkansas http://comp.uark.edu/~pstaffor ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:33:51 +0100 From: Fredrik Grafstroem Subject: Re: EPS: Tools problems At 01:16 1996-12-18 -0600, you wrote: >I don't want to discuss RCS matters really on this list, but I do need to >address an issue that has cropped up. My apologies to the waste of bandwidth. > >EPS/ASR Tools right now is in transition - it is a beta version of a new >version that will be out before the end of the year. I would appreciate >anyone who downloads the program from our site and runs it, to let us know >what they encounter and what they think of the program. The program was >working very well up to the 2.7 version, and the early versions of 3.0, but >we are since making a major reworking of the program. We have thus >"demoted" the program to BETA status, and we invite anyone who wants to to >download the program and evaluate it. > >The reason I address this is that there is a person (I don't mind saying >his name - Fredrick Grafstrom), that generally is disatisfied with the >program and has been e-mailing around to the people on the list about it. >Finally he went from "undercover" to put a list post on it: > >At 20:22 1996-12-17 +0000, you wrote: >>Yes, unfortunately this program is no good. >> >>I bought the first version. >>And i have been upgrading regulary, with the hope that the bugs would >>disappear. >> >>Have not tried the last one. >> >>It has never worked satisfactory. >> >>And therefore I have not been using it for any work with the Asr-10. >> >>Its a shame. >> >>Carl Arne >> >> >>Yes I agree, and I think everyone else should, that is having problems with >>this program. I give you one more chance Rubber or I will skip this program >>for good, sorry. >> >>Fredrik G. > >I would appreciate that notices about the program come to me directly and >not through the list - if you are going to quote a conversation like was >done above. No need to waste the bandwidth. > >I have been trying to reach Fredrik to help with the problems, but his mail >has bounced on me frequently. I even posted to the list asking for him. > >Again, to reiterate, Tools is in Beta right now just for the reasons Carl >Arne and Fredrik stated. The were previous versions that worked very well. >I just wish they would have came to me recently about it - I have received >a note from either men in at least 4 months. Frederik and Carl, send me >your beta lists! Or just hang on until it's done. Or ask for your money >back. Any are accepted. > >We believe Tools will become the standard program to use for the serious >EPS/ASR users. > >This message from: >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* Garth Hjelte * >* Rubber Chicken Software Co. * >* 714 5th Street SE * >* Willmar, MN 56201 USA * >* * >* 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * >* WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >============================================================================= >This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. >If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail >to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > > Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. Maybe it was dumb, doing this to you. It's just that I don't think any improvements have been made to any of the later versions, comming after the 2.7, I got in the first place. I thought you didn't take me seriously. I know the 3.2 version is a beta, but the 3.0 wasn't and worked in the same bad way as the 2.7. I really had high hopes on the 3.0 but when I tried to use it, it was really a disappointment. I know this was dumb of me, but I don't like you telling lies about me. You're saying that I haven't been helping you getting rid of these bugs. You know and I know, that is not trough! I've send you lots of bugs, telling you exactly how they occur, but as much as I can see, no changes have been made since. So I just gave up. I really think the idea of such a program is greate. And I'm really willing to help you, as I always have been, making it to a stable tool. I just don't know any of the emails you're telling me that you've sent. Maybe I've missed it by mistake and in that case, I'm really sorry for that. Misunderstandings are quite easy to be made, mailing emails like this. So I wish you good luck in the future and I think we can clearer this up once and for all now. Once again good luck and I'll see you in the future, Fredrik Grafstroem ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:16:41 -0600 From: "Jason M. Keeler" Subject: EPS: SCSI Cables I was just wondering if there was such a thing as "special" 25-pin SCSI cables. I couldn't find any such thing at any computer store when I was looking last year. I've only seen expensive SCSI-II and SCSI-III cables (these are very $$!). I finally just bought a 6ft $12 DB25 straight-through cable which connects the ASR to the Zip then finally the PC. I haven't had any problems other than having a few contention issues with Win95. Jason jkeeler@dlcwest.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #301 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:39 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n302' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #302 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, December 19 1996 Volume 02 : Number 302 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:40:45 -0400 From: "Cristobal Mendoza" Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it > I'm new to this list but old in the ways of the 16+. Did you mention in > an earlier post under what circumstances the 16+ keeps crashing? I love > to help if I new more. It crashes when I turn it on, while I am editing, while I'm playing, while I'm sleeping, when I go to the bathroom; in short, every time. It is unpredictable, there is no sequence of events that trigger the crash, it just does it. Some days are better (I figure the barometric pressure is low, or something like that), some days are horrible; yesterday it crashed right after it finished the boot up sequence, I didn't even press a button. There is one clear problem: some keys seem to go off by themselves, no "panic" works here. They seem to get stuck at random but no key seems to be bothering always, just plain randomness here too. Some of the crashes seem to begin with this "stuck key" syndrome, but not all of them. If there is a "non service center" solution I would like to hear it, since I live in Venezuela. Thanks for everyone that has replied to this post. v.0.99 ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:12:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan "Jj" Kidder Subject: Re: EPS: EPS classic SCSI HD Phillip Stafford writes: > I had it working once but never again. Even > if I put the terminator on the last drive and turn it off the EPS never > sees the terminator. I think it's the extra 2 feet of cable but the total > length is much less than 6 feet, even including all the internal wiring - > plus these are fantastic (re: expensive) SCSI cables. I don't think I can > get any shorter or I'd just have a stub of a cable sticking out of the > back of the keyboard. You know, I just had a SCSI problem with my ASR the other day for the first time in my life. I had unhooked my drives in order to travel with one of them and then when I rehooked them, they were unhappy and not booting. My first thought was "Oh no! My file system has died!" And then, determined not to panic, I started rearranging the cables. The third configuration of 25-50, 50-50 and terminator worked. (this must've been the original arrangement.) So I guess what I'm asking is, did you try all the various permutations of connectors and cables? It makes a difference, apparently. -Jj / tree@acm.cs.umn.edu "Dot seeg?! Vee don't need to show you no steenkin' dot seeg!" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:22:54 +0100 From: Kent Hedman Subject: RE: EPS: I've had it >---------- >Fr=E5n: Cristobal Mendoza[SMTP:clmhome@ven.net] >Skickat: den 19 december 1996 06:40 >Till: EPS worshipers; kearney >Ang=E5ende: Re: EPS: I've had it > > >> I'm new to this list but old in the ways of the 16+. Did you mention = in >> an earlier post under what circumstances the 16+ keeps crashing? I = love >> to help if I new more. > >It crashes when I turn it on, while I am editing, while I'm playing, = while >I'm sleeping, when I go to the bathroom; in short, every time. It is >unpredictable, there is no sequence of events that trigger the crash, = it >just does it. Some days are better (I figure the barometric pressure is >low, or something like that), some days are horrible; yesterday it = crashed >right after it finished the boot up sequence, I didn't even press a = button. >There is one clear problem: some keys seem to go off by themselves, no >"panic" works here. They seem to get stuck at random but no key seems = to be >bothering always, just plain randomness here too. Some of the crashes = seem >to begin with this "stuck key" syndrome, but not all of them. I have the same problems, but I've come up with a quick solution to release the stuck key syndrome anyway. My EPS 16+ seems to stuck up the 6th octave and play random notes, I've found out that If you use the option "Recalibrate Keyboard" the problem disappears. You guys probably know this already anyway, but so far it's working for me! Christmas greetings from Kent Hedman, Sweden ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:55:19 -0500 From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: Re: EPS/ASR Tools In a message dated 96-12-18 23:08:04 EST, you write: > EPS/ASR Tools right now is in transition - it is a beta version of a new > version that will be out before the end of the year. .... We have thus > "demoted" the program to BETA status, and we invite anyone who wants to to > download the program and evaluate it. ..... let us know what they encounter > and what they think of the program. Does this "demotion" include the TSTools as well? I've heard several horror stories about your current release 2.1 of TsTools: Apparently, the program creates corrupted EFE and EFA files which can crash the EPS and ASR. If these files start getting posted on Web sites, they'll create a lot of problems for many users. You need to correct this immediately. To make things more confusing, TsTools incorrectly identifies some valid Ensoniq files as corrupt! Also, the program incorrectly identifies some Cakewalk files as corrupted Ensoniq files and prompts you to delete them! The disk utilities section in version 2.1 doesn't run at all - it exits with a runtime error 53 message. Also, converting a WAV file into an Ensoniq file requires clicking the mouse on an 'OK' button more than 10 times! It also creates a phantom file in the root directory of the hard disk. Scary stuff... Considering the many "difficulties" you are experiencing with your programs, when you remove "works in NT" from your ads, it would be wise to consider removing "better than Giebler's EDM" as well. Incidentally, Giebler, EDM, EFE, and EFA are trademarks of Giebler Enterprises. Be sure to include the appropriate information when you reference our trademarks, especially in your ads and manuals. Gary Giebler Giebler Enterprises ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 14:59:24 +0100 (MET) From: "Tim K." Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it Mmm. For me this turned out to be a long and painful story. There seem to be two reasons for this behaviour of the EPS: 1- The transformer 2- The connection of two circuitboards under the middle C. 1-You may have noticed the problems disappear after a while; once the EPS feels nice and warm it crashes less often. For this reason I turn it on two hours before I play the keyboard (terrible solution). The reason apparently is the powersource not delivering a stable signal, according to an Ensoniq technician. 2-Underneath the keyboard two boards are connected with a wimpy plastic thing. If you press the keyboard *REALLY* hard at the middle C the EPS crashes sometimes. This problem can be solved by bypassing the connector with some soldering. You can do it yourself only be cautious, you will have to remove the keyboard entirely, and if you feel unsure about your soldering skills don't even try it! Hope this helps a little..There is also a positive side to this story: I once had a performance which included some of the random notes and stuttering the EPS produces before crashing. Tim > > > I'm new to this list but old in the ways of the 16+. Did you mention in > > an earlier post under what circumstances the 16+ keeps crashing? I love > > to help if I new more. > > It crashes when I turn it on, while I am editing, while I'm playing, while > I'm sleeping, when I go to the bathroom; in short, every time. It is > unpredictable, there is no sequence of events that trigger the crash, it > just does it. Some days are better (I figure the barometric pressure is > low, or something like that), some days are horrible; yesterday it crashed > right after it finished the boot up sequence, I didn't even press a button. > There is one clear problem: some keys seem to go off by themselves, no > "panic" works here. They seem to get stuck at random but no key seems to be > bothering always, just plain randomness here too. Some of the crashes seem > to begin with this "stuck key" syndrome, but not all of them. > > If there is a "non service center" solution I would like to hear it, since > I live in Venezuela. > > Thanks for everyone that has replied to this post. > v.0.99 - -------------------------- - - Tim Koeleman - - - Project Manager - - - TROS MultiMedia - - - Hilversum, Netherlands - - - aquila@euronet.nl - - - tim.koeleman@tros.nl - - -------------------------- - -------------------------- - - Tim Koeleman - - - Project Manager - - - TROS MultiMedia - - - Hilversum, Netherlands - - - aquila@euronet.nl - - - tim.koeleman@tros.nl - - -------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:31:01 -0600 From: Derek Jackson Subject: EPS: Good Morning! Good Morning !!! Attachment Converted: "c:\download\WINMAIL1.DAT" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:53:18 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan "Jj" Kidder Subject: EPS: re: foot pedal I'm wondering if anyone knows, offhand, the specs for the foot-pedal jack on the ASR, in terms of wiring (stereo? Mono?), what kind of potentiometer it wants, and that. Danke. -Jj / tree@acm.cs.umn.edu "Dot seeg?! Vee don't need to show you no steenkin' dot seeg!" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:03:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Todd A. Aiken" Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Tim K. wrote: > Mmm. For me this turned out to be a long and painful story. There seem to be two > reasons for this behaviour of the EPS: > 1- The transformer > 2- The connection of two circuitboards under the middle C. > > 1-You may have noticed the problems disappear after a while; once the EPS feels > nice and warm it crashes less often. For this reason I turn it on two hours > before I play the keyboard (terrible solution). The reason apparently is the > powersource not delivering a stable signal, according to an Ensoniq technician. > 2-Underneath the keyboard two boards are connected with a wimpy plastic thing. > If you press the keyboard *REALLY* hard at the middle C the EPS crashes > sometimes. This problem can be solved by bypassing the connector with some > soldering. You can do it yourself only be cautious, you will have to remove the > keyboard entirely, and if you feel unsure about your soldering skills don't even > try it! I've never had transformer related problems, but with my old EPS Classic, I ALWAYS used to have crashing problems similar to the ones you have mentioned that were related to this cheap connector that joins the two halves of the keyboard assembly circuit board. It was not until I replaced this connector with a ribbon cable that most of my problems disappeared-adding two fans solved the rest of them (my heat sink would get extremely hot!). The reason for this is the connector wears itself due to the circuit boards flexing ever so slightly when aftertouch pressure is applied. When I replaced mine, I could see where the connector had worn little groves in it. Eventually, the wear gets so bad that the connection between the two boards becomes intermittant. When this happens, the EPS thinks you are playing it, which causes all of your random notes. The crashing happens because sometimes too many notes are sent at once, and the EPS just can't handle them all at once, so it dies. One way that I could get my EPS to crash all the time was to do this: boot it, load any instrument, select it, then pick up the front of the unit a couple of inches, and let it drop back onto the stand/floor-lift it just high enough so that the impact causes all of the keys to dispress at the same time. Nine times out of ten, the EPS would crash with ERROR 44 - REBOOT? This would not happen however if no instruments were loaded or some were loaded but not selected-an instrument had to be loaded and selected for this to work. The EPS just couldn't handle all of those keypresses at the same time, so it would hang. > Hope this helps a little..There is also a positive side to this story: I once > had a performance which included some of the random notes and stuttering the EPS > produces before crashing. You think that's bad? My unit went beserk sending random notes in the middle of a funeral I was playing for! Talk about embarrasing. My unit did not like the cold weather at all, so if I had to leave it out in the cold and play in a hurry once it was brought in, I would take off the top four screws, swing open the cover, and shoot the internal circuitry with a hair dryer set to high for a couple of minutes-this would get everything toasty warm. It actually would work when it was really cold, but as it warmed up it would start acting up (temperature changes caused the connector to move). I think I still have the procedure on how to fix this connector yourself. If anybody wants a copy of it, email me and I'll send it to you. CU L8R... - ------------------------------------+--------------------------------------- Todd A. Aiken | This space can be yours, for just four Staarage Systems Manager | easy payments of $39.95. Plus, buy Technician, Cole Computer Centre | one half and get the 2nd half for 50% BISHOP'S UNIVERSITY | off the cost of the two together! Lennoxville, Quebec, CANADA | Call 1-800-4-RIPOFF today! ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:40:53 -0600 From: James Olsen Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #301 >Subject: EPS: EPS classic SCSI HD > >I've noticed the EPS prefers really short SCSI cables, more so than any >other piece of equipment I've ever seen! Has anyone ever gotten two hard >drives to work with a classic? I had it working once but never again. Even >if I put the terminator on the last drive and turn it off the EPS never >sees the terminator. I think it's the extra 2 feet of cable but the total >length is much less than 6 feet, even including all the internal wiring - >plus these are fantastic (re: expensive) SCSI cables. I don't think I can >get any shorter or I'd just have a stub of a cable sticking out of the >back of the keyboard. I've actually used my EPS 16+ with a 4ft SCSI cable, plugged into a 6ft serial cable as an extension with no "mounting" screws (i hate those things) Maybe it's just the SCSI hardware itself, either the hard disk or in the EPS. Mine works beautifully, and I've abused it pretty good (knock on wood). Anyhow, my $1.50 - --James james@dpc.net ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:17:58 +1100 From: Stev Cintury Subject: Re: EPS: Good Morning! At 09:31 19/12/96 -0600, you wrote: > > > Good Morning !!! > > >begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT >M>)\^(B4/`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` Derek, if I recieve any more of this junk email I'm going to spam you with more crap than your server will know what to do with. Stop it! Stev Cintury ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #302 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:40 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n303' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #303 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, December 20 1996 Volume 02 : Number 303 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 02:33:54 -0100 From: rbender@peganet.com Subject: EPS: eps-digest V2 #302 eps-digest Thursday, December 19 1996 Volume 02 : Number 302 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:40:45 -0400 From: "Cristobal Mendoza" Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it > I'm new to this list but old in the ways of the 16+. Did you mention in > an earlier post under what circumstances the 16+ keeps crashing? I love > to help if I new more. It crashes when I turn it on, while I am editing, while I'm playing, while I'm sleeping, when I go to the bathroom; in short, every time. It is unpredictable, there is no sequence of events that trigger the crash, it just does it. Some days are better (I figure the barometric pressure is low, or something like that), some days are horrible; yesterday it crashed right after it finished the boot up sequence, I didn't even press a button. There is one clear problem: some keys seem to go off by themselves, no "panic" works here. They seem to get stuck at random but no key seems to be bothering always, just plain randomness here too. Some of the crashes seem to begin with this "stuck key" syndrome, but not all of them. If there is a "non service center" solution I would like to hear it, since I live in Venezuela. Thanks for everyone that has replied to this post. v.0.99 ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:12:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan "Jj" Kidder Subject: Re: EPS: EPS classic SCSI HD Phillip Stafford writes: > I had it working once but never again. Even > if I put the terminator on the last drive and turn it off the EPS never > sees the terminator. I think it's the extra 2 feet of cable but the total > length is much less than 6 feet, even including all the internal wiring - > plus these are fantastic (re: expensive) SCSI cables. I don't think I can > get any shorter or I'd just have a stub of a cable sticking out of the > back of the keyboard. You know, I just had a SCSI problem with my ASR the other day for the first time in my life. I had unhooked my drives in order to travel with one of them and then when I rehooked them, they were unhappy and not booting. My first thought was "Oh no! My file system has died!" And then, determined not to panic, I started rearranging the cables. The third configuration of 25-50, 50-50 and terminator worked. (this must've been the original arrangement.) So I guess what I'm asking is, did you try all the various permutations of connectors and cables? It makes a difference, apparently. -Jj / tree@acm.cs.umn.edu "Dot seeg?! Vee don't need to show you no steenkin' dot seeg!" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:22:54 +0100 From: Kent Hedman Subject: RE: EPS: I've had it >---------- >Fr=E5n: Cristobal Mendoza[SMTP:clmhome@ven.net] >Skickat: den 19 december 1996 06:40 >Till: EPS worshipers; kearney >Ang=E5ende: Re: EPS: I've had it > > >> I'm new to this list but old in the ways of the 16+. Did you mention = in >> an earlier post under what circumstances the 16+ keeps crashing? I = love >> to help if I new more. > >It crashes when I turn it on, while I am editing, while I'm playing, = while >I'm sleeping, when I go to the bathroom; in short, every time. It is >unpredictable, there is no sequence of events that trigger the crash, = it >just does it. Some days are better (I figure the barometric pressure is >low, or something like that), some days are horrible; yesterday it = crashed >right after it finished the boot up sequence, I didn't even press a = button. >There is one clear problem: some keys seem to go off by themselves, no >"panic" works here. They seem to get stuck at random but no key seems = to be >bothering always, just plain randomness here too. Some of the crashes = seem >to begin with this "stuck key" syndrome, but not all of them. I have the same problems, but I've come up with a quick solution to release the stuck key syndrome anyway. My EPS 16+ seems to stuck up the 6th octave and play random notes, I've found out that If you use the option "Recalibrate Keyboard" the problem disappears. You guys probably know this already anyway, but so far it's working for me! Christmas greetings from Kent Hedman, Sweden ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:55:19 -0500 From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: Re: EPS/ASR Tools In a message dated 96-12-18 23:08:04 EST, you write: > EPS/ASR Tools right now is in transition - it is a beta version of a new > version that will be out before the end of the year. .... We have thus > "demoted" the program to BETA status, and we invite anyone who wants to to > download the program and evaluate it. ..... let us know what they encounter > and what they think of the program. Does this "demotion" include the TSTools as well? I've heard several horror stories about your current release 2.1 of TsTools: Apparently, the program creates corrupted EFE and EFA files which can crash the EPS and ASR. If these files start getting posted on Web sites, they'll create a lot of problems for many users. You need to correct this immediately. To make things more confusing, TsTools incorrectly identifies some valid Ensoniq files as corrupt! Also, the program incorrectly identifies some Cakewalk files as corrupted Ensoniq files and prompts you to delete them! The disk utilities section in version 2.1 doesn't run at all - it exits with a runtime error 53 message. Also, converting a WAV file into an Ensoniq file requires clicking the mouse on an 'OK' button more than 10 times! It also creates a phantom file in the root directory of the hard disk. Scary stuff... Considering the many "difficulties" you are experiencing with your programs, when you remove "works in NT" from your ads, it would be wise to consider removing "better than Giebler's EDM" as well. Incidentally, Giebler, EDM, EFE, and EFA are trademarks of Giebler Enterprises. Be sure to include the appropriate information when you reference our trademarks, especially in your ads and manuals. Gary Giebler Giebler Enterprises ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 14:59:24 +0100 (MET) From: "Tim K." Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it Mmm. For me this turned out to be a long and painful story. There seem to be two reasons for this behaviour of the EPS: 1- The transformer 2- The connection of two circuitboards under the middle C. 1-You may have noticed the problems disappear after a while; once the EPS feels nice and warm it crashes less often. For this reason I turn it on two hours before I play the keyboard (terrible solution). The reason apparently is the powersource not delivering a stable signal, according to an Ensoniq technician. 2-Underneath the keyboard two boards are connected with a wimpy plastic thing. If you press the keyboard *REALLY* hard at the middle C the EPS crashes sometimes. This problem can be solved by bypassing the connector with some soldering. You can do it yourself only be cautious, you will have to remove the keyboard entirely, and if you feel unsure about your soldering skills don't even try it! Hope this helps a little..There is also a positive side to this story: I once had a performance which included some of the random notes and stuttering the EPS produces before crashing. Tim > > > I'm new to this list but old in the ways of the 16+. Did you mention in > > an earlier post under what circumstances the 16+ keeps crashing? I love > > to help if I new more. > > It crashes when I turn it on, while I am editing, while I'm playing, while > I'm sleeping, when I go to the bathroom; in short, every time. It is > unpredictable, there is no sequence of events that trigger the crash, it > just does it. Some days are better (I figure the barometric pressure is > low, or something like that), some days are horrible; yesterday it crashed > right after it finished the boot up sequence, I didn't even press a button. > There is one clear problem: some keys seem to go off by themselves, no > "panic" works here. They seem to get stuck at random but no key seems to be > bothering always, just plain randomness here too. Some of the crashes seem > to begin with this "stuck key" syndrome, but not all of them. > > If there is a "non service center" solution I would like to hear it, since > I live in Venezuela. > > Thanks for everyone that has replied to this post. > v.0.99 - - -------------------------- - - - Tim Koeleman - - - - Project Manager - - - - TROS MultiMedia - - - - Hilversum, Netherlands - - - - aquila@euronet.nl - - - - tim.koeleman@tros.nl - - - -------------------------- - - -------------------------- - - - Tim Koeleman - - - - Project Manager - - - - TROS MultiMedia - - - - Hilversum, Netherlands - - - - aquila@euronet.nl - - - - tim.koeleman@tros.nl - - - -------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:31:01 -0600 From: Derek Jackson Subject: EPS: Good Morning! Good Morning !!! Attachment Converted: D:\PEGANET\WINMAIL.DAT ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:53:18 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan "Jj" Kidder Subject: EPS: re: foot pedal I'm wondering if anyone knows, offhand, the specs for the foot-pedal jack on the ASR, in terms of wiring (stereo? Mono?), what kind of potentiometer it wants, and that. Danke. -Jj / tree@acm.cs.umn.edu "Dot seeg?! Vee don't need to show you no steenkin' dot seeg!" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:03:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Todd A. Aiken" Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Tim K. wrote: > Mmm. For me this turned out to be a long and painful story. There seem to be two > reasons for this behaviour of the EPS: > 1- The transformer > 2- The connection of two circuitboards under the middle C. > > 1-You may have noticed the problems disappear after a while; once the EPS feels > nice and warm it crashes less often. For this reason I turn it on two hours > before I play the keyboard (terrible solution). The reason apparently is the > powersource not delivering a stable signal, according to an Ensoniq technician. > 2-Underneath the keyboard two boards are connected with a wimpy plastic thing. > If you press the keyboard *REALLY* hard at the middle C the EPS crashes > sometimes. This problem can be solved by bypassing the connector with some > soldering. You can do it yourself only be cautious, you will have to remove the > keyboard entirely, and if you feel unsure about your soldering skills don't even > try it! I've never had transformer related problems, but with my old EPS Classic, I ALWAYS used to have crashing problems similar to the ones you have mentioned that were related to this cheap connector that joins the two halves of the keyboard assembly circuit board. It was not until I replaced this connector with a ribbon cable that most of my problems disappeared-adding two fans solved the rest of them (my heat sink would get extremely hot!). The reason for this is the connector wears itself due to the circuit boards flexing ever so slightly when aftertouch pressure is applied. When I replaced mine, I could see where the connector had worn little groves in it. Eventually, the wear gets so bad that the connection between the two boards becomes intermittant. When this happens, the EPS thinks you are playing it, which causes all of your random notes. The crashing happens because sometimes too many notes are sent at once, and the EPS just can't handle them all at once, so it dies. One way that I could get my EPS to crash all the time was to do this: boot it, load any instrument, select it, then pick up the front of the unit a couple of inches, and let it drop back onto the stand/floor-lift it just high enough so that the impact causes all of the keys to dispress at the same time. Nine times out of ten, the EPS would crash with ERROR 44 - REBOOT? This would not happen however if no instruments were loaded or some were loaded but not selected-an instrument had to be loaded and selected for this to work. The EPS just couldn't handle all of those keypresses at the same time, so it would hang. > Hope this helps a little..There is also a positive side to this story: I once > had a performance which included some of the random notes and stuttering the EPS > produces before crashing. You think that's bad? My unit went beserk sending random notes in the middle of a funeral I was playing for! Talk about embarrasing. My unit did not like the cold weather at all, so if I had to leave it out in the cold and play in a hurry once it was brought in, I would take off the top four screws, swing open the cover, and shoot the internal circuitry with a hair dryer set to high for a couple of minutes-this would get everything toasty warm. It actually would work when it was really cold, but as it warmed up it would start acting up (temperature changes caused the connector to move). I think I still have the procedure on how to fix this connector yourself. If anybody wants a copy of it, email me and I'll send it to you. CU L8R... - - ------------------------------------+--------------------------------------- Todd A. Aiken | This space can be yours, for just four Staarage Systems Manager | easy payments of $39.95. Plus, buy Technician, Cole Computer Centre | one half and get the 2nd half for 50% BISHOP'S UNIVERSITY | off the cost of the two together! Lennoxville, Quebec, CANADA | Call 1-800-4-RIPOFF today! ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:40:53 -0600 From: James Olsen Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #301 >Subject: EPS: EPS classic SCSI HD > >I've noticed the EPS prefers really short SCSI cables, more so than any >other piece of equipment I've ever seen! Has anyone ever gotten two hard >drives to work with a classic? I had it working once but never again. Even >if I put the terminator on the last drive and turn it off the EPS never >sees the terminator. I think it's the extra 2 feet of cable but the total >length is much less than 6 feet, even including all the internal wiring - >plus these are fantastic (re: expensive) SCSI cables. I don't think I can >get any shorter or I'd just have a stub of a cable sticking out of the >back of the keyboard. I've actually used my EPS 16+ with a 4ft SCSI cable, plugged into a 6ft serial cable as an extension with no "mounting" screws (i hate those things) Maybe it's just the SCSI hardware itself, either the hard disk or in the EPS. Mine works beautifully, and I've abused it pretty good (knock on wood). Anyhow, my $1.50 - - --James james@dpc.net ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:17:58 +1100 From: Stev Cintury Subject: Re: EPS: Good Morning! At 09:31 19/12/96 -0600, you wrote: > > > Good Morning !!! > > >begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT >M>)\^(B4/`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` Derek, if I recieve any more of this junk email I'm going to spam you with more crap than your server will know what to do with. Stop it! Stev Cintury ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #302 ************************* ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:20:37 +0100 From: yseulys@filnet.fr (yseulys) Subject: Re: EPS: re: foot pedal >I'm wondering if anyone knows, offhand, the specs for the foot-pedal jack >on the ASR, in terms of wiring (stereo? Mono?), what kind of potentiometer >it wants, and that. > >Danke. > -Jj / tree@acm.cs.umn.edu >"Dot seeg?! Vee don't need to show you no steenkin' dot seeg!" >============================================================================= Hello Jonathan; As Ensoniq's original pedal are quite difficult to find here in France (although they are probably made in Italy...), I had to try several models so here are my - non-technical - thoughts of the day. Ideally, a standard MONO-jack terminated volume pedal should work, since (as far as I know) the ASR sends a low-voltage current (a few CC Volts, no audio signal) which is faded by the potentiometer of the pedal. This current acts as a control voltage, Do not use pedals with Input/Output jacks, which are designed to control audio signals. BUT still, many pedal controllers do not allow a complete control range from full attenuation to full volume (i.e. you'd not get a MIDI value from 0 to 127 but, say, 12 to 110 instead. If you have no MIDI monitoring, you can verify by reading the values in the ANALOG INPUT Tests page: hold COMMAND+1+3+scroll). Some Yamaha & Roland standard volume pedal (they have a nice feel) seem to work properly (when they are not worn out...). I found a cheap, no-name Italian one which is OK. Not with a very nice feel (one feels that grainy, ratchet-type transmission under the foot) but OK. Anyway do not buy any other than Ensoniq's model without testing it before. Most dealers don't even know what you're talking about, so make sure you can get another model or your money back. Happy Christmas! Michel Risse ("The French Collection") ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:55:10 -0200 From: william2@plug-in.com.br (William - Member of the NoNex Group) Subject: EPS: MR stinks! When I though MR was the BEST keyboard, I realized it WON'T have SCSI support, and can't handle more than 12 meg of Sample-RAM... what's the problem with ensoniq?! And is the Song just handle 8 Sequencers?! Ok, the effects are HOT but how about the rest?!?!?! #!$%&!#& CY! / Novo Hamburgo - RS Brazil \ FutureKids - Your Child / / NoNex Group - Pri-Member \ Will Save the World / http://www.geocities.com/~nonex-group ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:30:26 -0800 From: kyounkin@qualcomm.com (KWORLD) Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it > >If there is a "non service center" solution I would like to hear it, since >I live in Venezuela. > >Thanks for everyone that has replied to this post. >v.0.99 For electronics in general, a good thing to try is to open up the unit and press down on all the chips that are in sockets and press connectors together. This is to ensure that everything is making a good connection. Chips and connectors can wiggle loose after time / vibration / temperature changes and cause intermittent failures. Make sure you have grounded yourself before doing this, you don't want to zap a chip with any static electricity. Kent http://www.qualcomm.com/~kyounkin ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:33:29 -0200 From: william2@plug-in.com.br (William - Member of the NoNex Group) Subject: EPS: I'm going to change from TS-10 to a Kurzweil K2000! Hy! I just got tired of my TS-10, and the MR is not a big deal.. I just got some info about the K2000 (wwww.youngchang.com/kurzweil) and find it superb, if some one has a bad though about that please tell me... I haven't play on it yet!! But, it accepts EPS/ASR samples! |->> Thank's! / Novo Hamburgo - RS Brazil \ FutureKids - Your Child / / NoNex Group - Pri-Member \ Will Save the World / http://www.geocities.com/~nonex-group ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:28:06 -0600 From: tesjuptr@Bayou.UH.EDU (Uncle Viceroy) Subject: Re: EPS: I'm going to change from TS-10 to a Kurzweil K2000! > Hy! I just got tired of my TS-10, and the MR is not a big deal.. I >just got some info about the K2000 (wwww.youngchang.com/kurzweil) and find >it superb, if some one has a bad though about that please tell me... I >haven't play on it yet!! But, it accepts EPS/ASR samples! |->> > Thank's! > > / Novo Hamburgo - RS Brazil \ FutureKids - Your Child / > / NoNex Group - Pri-Member \ Will Save the World / > > http://www.geocities.com/~nonex-group Switching to Kurzweil?? Fine- the k2000 series is truly excellent- BUT - -please be aware of the following differences between the TS-10 and K2000. 1. The k2000 will not always properly reproduce Ensoniq Samples ( for some Reason-I.E. STUPID pitch transposition algorithm-- the Kurzweils will not transpose a sample higher than 12 steps/notes) so you may find some very quiet sections in your instruments (i.e. DEAD KEYS). 2. The effects section on the k2000 sounds more like Digitech than Ensoniq. 3. NO POLYPHONIC AFTERTOUCH ( and a really CHEAP feeling keyboard ). 4. Thousands of programming options (read- lots of scrolling). However- on the plus side you'll get 1. sampling. 2. Excellent SCSI. 3. Resonant Filters (polyphoniq ones- digital). 4. You'll get to use a nice IBM disk format.(makes Bill Gates happy) ;) food for thought- ( hopefully you can afford to ADD the k2000 to your TS-10) humbly submitted by.......... - ----------------^------------------------------------------------------ /|\ Uncle Viceroy | ------|------ Remember... Wherever you go.... \ | / \ | / There you are. \ / \ / / \ / \ / \ Klangfarbinugen (it's you and some knobs) |/_ \./ _\| *********************************************************************** ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 01:32:00 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:03:54 -0500 (EST) >From: "Todd A. Aiken" >Subject: Re: EPS: I've had it >[...] > You think that's bad? My unit went beserk sending random notes in >the middle of a funeral I was playing for! Talk about embarrasing. My >unit did not like the cold weather at all, so if I had to leave it out in >the cold and play in a hurry once it was brought in, I would take off the >top four screws, swing open the cover, and shoot the internal circuitry >with a hair dryer set to high for a couple of minutes-this would get >everything toasty warm. [...] As a matter of fact, I never _ever_ fixed the top-screws of my EPS Clssic for several years, because my unit tends to get more and more noisy (audio-wise) when turned on for a longer time. If this happens, I have to open the top and press firmly on the multi-pin-cables on the EPS's mainboard. This always helps. :-) Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 20:09:28 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" Subject: Re: EPS: MR stinks! I played with an MR61 this week and I am thoroughly disappointed. The sound sucks. There are a few that are cool, but overall, the sound of the beast didn't do it for me at all. And Ensoniq loves to change its drum maps which frustrates the hell out of me. Hey, Ensoniq. Stay with the TS map or go to a GM map, but for God's sakes, stop screwing around with the map already. And the organs? Geez, everybody kicks Ensoniq's ass in organs, especially Korg and Roland. I am just thoroughly unimpressed. I'll stick with my Ts, hell I thought the SD1 sounded better than all of them. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #303 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:41 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n304' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #304 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, December 22 1996 Volume 02 : Number 304 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:53:55 -0600 From: tesjuptr@Bayou.UH.EDU (Uncle Viceroy) Subject: Re: EPS: I'm going to change from TS-10 to a Kurzweil K2000! > Well, thank's, but what you know about Korg-Trinity? > Bye! It's silver. It's expensive. - - try asking the KORG mailing list for info. - ----------------^------------------------------------------------------ /|\ Uncle Viceroy | ------|------ Remember... Wherever you go.... \ | / \ | / There you are. \ / \ / / \ / \ / \ Klangfarbinugen (it's you and some knobs) |/_ \./ _\| *********************************************************************** ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 17:56:08 -0200 From: william2@plug-in.com.br (William - Member of the NoNex Group) Subject: Re: EPS: I'm going to change from TS-10 to a Kurzweil K2000! >> Well, thank's, but what you know about Korg-Trinity? >It's silver. >It's expensive. I didn't like it... it's only 8 meg Flash-ROM (expensive) for samples, the K2500 is 128Meg of SIMM (Cheap)... I'll try to get the K2500... or the K2 or even the K2000... don't care if the keys are cheap-fell... all I want is a good keyboard... with good efects and stuffs... Thank's! / Novo Hamburgo - RS Brazil \ FutureKids - Your Child / / NoNex Group - Pri-Member \ Will Save the World / http://www.geocities.com/~nonex-group ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #304 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:42 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n305' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #305 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, December 23 1996 Volume 02 : Number 305 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:14:36 -0500 From: Kaweewut Wuttiwipoo Subject: EPS: Need help w/ MIDI stuff Hi. I've just connected my TS-12 to my computer and I'm quite new to this MIDI stuff. And I got this problem. Every time I turn on my computer and my TS at the same time, the TS will not function properly. Most of the time, the sound won't come out from the keyboard. Until I open the MIDI application, ex. Cakewalk, then the TS will function properly. I wrote to the Ensoniq tech. support and they suggested I read the manual of the software I used and do something w/ MIDI thru. Still, I don't know what to do. Please help me out! ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:35:50 +0100 From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Subject: Re: EPS: Re: EPS/ASR Tools Gary wrote among others.. >I've heard several horror stories about your current release 2.1 of TSTools: > >Apparently, the program creates corrupted EFE and EFA files which can crash >the EPS and ASR. If these files start getting posted on Web sites, they'll >create a lot of problems for many users. You need to correct this >immediately. My repeating-myself-for-the-100d-time-grandmotherly general remark is : Always be careful with files you find on the net and be skeptical to PC utilities generating instrument files for the Ensoniq samplers, A little more specifically about the above quote from Gary: The premises are rather vague, at least careful, while the conclusion is not. I agree to the conclusion ( obviously, but it's non of my business ) if the premises are correct, while it is my impression, from reading internet postings for some years that most people don't care neither way. I would hope that the impression could be wrong and that most of the non ignorant people feel the issue is so obvious that there is no need for comments. I am referring to that several programs have been - made, distributed and sold - for PC/IBM/MS/Wintel machines that create files with extentions 'EFE' that are what I have called 'time bombs'. On some samplers they will crash when/if you edit them, while on others they will crash immidiately. I think that is a problem, in particular the 'time bomb', while many people have expressed they disagree. There are many of those files on the net today. Usually it is caused by real errors, intrinsic errors in the programs generating the files. One large archive - Petteri's - clearly warns about this. The tool discussned by Gary shouldn't need special mention but users and the creator should be made aware. I am a little disturbed by that Gary, apparently, is referring to rumors instead of his own experience. I have been assured that the files are OK ( from a very biased source ), but I have no experience with that program nor the files it generate. Should we find out? As indicated above, if anybody wants to save the world for corrupt Ensoniq files, they are unfortunately several years too late. ( But I think it's good they try ). In addition to faulty programs, of which there have been several, you probably have to count on wrong use of the programs, You also should take very seriously that there exist several faulty zipping/unzipping programs for the PC. These introduce errors in the programs and in the files. Also a lot of errors, in particular in the Mac world, are introduced by invalid settings associated with cross platform transfers. ( carriage return , line feed substitution ) Luckily, many of these errors which are extrinsic to PC Ensoniq utilities will show up before you have loaded a file in the sampler, but not all will. No music comes out of crashes, No music comes directly from discussing the crashes neither. If you avoid those and other crashes you may already have created your ultumate masterpiece and have all the time in the world to discuss them? Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 15:46:54 -0500 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re: EPS: Re: EPS/ASR Tools >I am referring to that several programs have been - made, distributed and >sold - for PC/IBM/MS/Wintel machines that create files with extentions >'EFE' that are what I have called 'time bombs'. On some samplers they will >crash when/if you edit them, while on others they will crash immidiately. >I think that is a problem, in particular the 'time bomb', while many people >have expressed they disagree. There are many of those files on the net >today. Usually it is caused by real errors, intrinsic errors in the >programs generating the files. One large archive - Petteri's - clearly >warns about this. This is correct. Soundvert was victim of this, as well as Awave and some other programs. Without going into the file format specifically, I see why this has happened. (Pointers not being set, bad understanding of certain parameters that needed to be adjusted a certain way). Rubber Chicken is committed to Tools creating solid 100% Ensoniq-compatible files. It won't eventually exist any other way. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 13:57:49 -0500 From: RicciSand@aol.com Subject: EPS: volume pedal for Ensoniq -Jj / tree@acm.cs.umn.edu asked about a volume pedal. yseulys@filnet.fr (yseulys) (Michel Reese) reccommended a roland or korg or a mono volume pedal. I use a Roland EV-5 Expression pedal. I set the volume control at about 4. It works fine, but it is not a volume pedal like that on an organ. I have also used a mono roland volume pedal. The wiring is ring-return-red (radio shack USA) is output of the volume pedal. the tip-black works as send. I think the volume sweep depends on the size and taper of the potentiometer. (compromises) The roland works better than the volume pedal. Do not use either pedal with the ensoniq wah effects! The tone sweeps in a very short pedal travel. Good luck Sam Ricci Jr (http://www.riccisand.com) SamjRic@aol.com */ I would be creative right now but my 19 month old son keeps pushing the turbo button on my personal computer*/ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:50:35 -0500 (EST) From: cshadows@polaris.net Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V2 #302 I've noticed a few different people in this list who are having problems where thier EPS (classis/16/16+) crash alot. I had the same problems with two different EPS's and eventually could no longer use them to play live. (It got kind of embarassing having to reboot in the middle of a song.) This may not be the solution you are looking for but here was my final solution was this: I send both keyboards back to Ensoniq and had them replace the little circuit boards under the keys. Unfortunately, this could not be done so the entire key assembly had to be replaced. This cost me $140 apiece (the price of the whole key assembly) and I feel that I was ripped off, but I have had no, none, zero, nada nothing in the way of problems with them since. The explanation was that there is a chip on one of the little circuit boards that had become flaky and decided to lose it's little mind at the most inappropriate times. Ensoniq said that they could not just replace the chip because of some calibration bullshit (I'm sure someone out there knows why) but I feel that paying that much to have my sanity back was really worth it. Oh, Ensoniq was nice enough to give me the old key assemblies so I have two of them sitting in my bedroom gathering dust. I was told that the street price for a replacement key was $5 so in a perfect world, I have about $240 of useless plastic reminding me of my former woes. Any ideas what to do with them? Sean - -- | The CruxShadows | cshadows@nexus.polaris.net | | P.O. Box 2002 | | | Tallahassee Fl, 32316-2002 | | | http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/2328 | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. 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In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #305 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:43 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n306' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #306 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, December 24 1996 Volume 02 : Number 306 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 15:22:13 -0000 From: Paul Najar Subject: EPS: Rule you yule Merry christmas everyone, and a prosperous and healthy 97 love pn ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:05:07 +1100 From: Stev Cintury Subject: EPS: Merry Christmas Just an off the subject Merry Christmas and a hiphop happnin new year to all. May good thoughts, intrinsic melodies and primo paradiddles fill your Chrismas socks. cheers Stev Cintury ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:08:49 -0400 From: "Cristobal Mendoza" Subject: EPS: New thread for sampler people Since this is a sampler people congregation, I am taking the liberty of starting a new thread: "What would be your ideal sampler?" I'll start, but I want to hear your comments Dear Santa, my ideal sampler would have: - - NO CRASHES (sorry about that, it is kind of personal) - - The option of pitch shifting the wavesample in real time instead of just transposing it like every sampler out there - - Better interactivity with both PC and Mac (and the Amiga, sorry about the omission). I believe that if you have a computer monitor you shouldn't have to deal with a crummy monochrome LCD. I am talking about full manipulation of every parameter of the sampler in real time via a connection with the computer. Nowadays if you are an e-musician it is highly probable that you use a computer to that end, so it is a matter connecting the dots for the e-music industry. - - The ability to create sounds. Physical modelling, additive, substractive, FM sythesis, noise generation, they should all be in the sampler of the future. All sounds as usual loaded from a disk (or a PC's hard disk, hurray!!) to memory (in SIMMS, of course). And, of course, the ability to modulate the properties of these sounds in real time (e.g.: Say you just generated a saw wave, you should be able to change pulse width at will). In short, the sampler companies should take a hint from the few brave ones that are making sofware synthesizers; believe me, they are the wave of the future. Has anyone seen the Kyma and the Capybara? Look for them in the web and you'll get the picture. - - I don't know if any sampler has this, but it is a great idea: a breakaway module of the sampler that could act as a small and portable digital recorder to capture sounds in the real world (outside your room or studio), for those of us that simply can't or won't pay for a MiniDisc recorder or (gasp!) a portable DAT recorder. - - The ability to buy a version of a given sampler WITHOUT the sequencer. Some of us have computers. OK, I'll stop here. As you may very well see, I would like to see the sampler transformed from just a digital recorder to a full blown sound workstation, but still geared towards music. Please post your comments. I am NOT from the industry, this is just for intellectual and creative curiosity. Perhaps this document might reach the desk of an exec one day and he will say: -"so this is what they wanted..."- dosvidanya v.0.99 ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #306 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:44 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n307' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #307 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, December 25 1996 Volume 02 : Number 307 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 23:17:13 -0500 (EST) From: cshadows@polaris.net Subject: EPS: unconnected scsi dev I just got an Epson Zip Drive from Rubber Chicken (hi garth) and I am experiencing a problem with it. Whenever I try to format (or anything else having to do with the scsi) I get an error message that says 'unconnected scsi dev' on the asr screen. I have gone through old eps digests as well as old transoniq hackers and I have found no help save for the following: 1. The cable that came with the drive is about 2 feet long. I have seen some recommendations that the cable should be as short as possible. I separately purchased 3 dos formatted zip disks (made by maxell) so I have discounted the problem that occurs when one tries to format an unformatted disk. I have the terminator turned on so I have also discounted the problem that occurs when the terminator is not active. I make sure that I first place a zip disk in the drive, turn on the zip drive, wait for it to stop it's initial startup, then I turn on the asr and try to format the drive. I have seen a few others mention this same message and then some responses concerning possible problems, but I have not seen anyone who had previosly had this problem write back that it was solved and 'such and such' was how they did it. I would appreciate any ideas before I try to buy a shorter scsi cable or a scsi card for my pc. thanks Sean - -- | The CruxShadows | cshadows@nexus.polaris.net | | P.O. Box 2002 | | | Tallahassee Fl, 32316-2002 | | | http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/2328 | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 16:00:40 -0500 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: EPS: Re: unconnected scsi dev >>I just got an Epson Zip Drive from Rubber Chicken (hi garth) and >>I am experiencing a problem with it. Whenever I try to format >>(or anything else having to do with the scsi) I get an error >>message that says 'unconnected scsi dev' on the asr screen. I > >Fpor you or anyone else having the same type of problems, check out > >http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps/rcs_tips.htm#SCSITrouble > >THis gives you a step-by-step guide on troubleshooting SCSI problems with EPS/ASR equipment. Sean, note the personal post to you - if in case the drive is faulty, I want you taken care of ASAP. Follow the page step by step. Especially if it does not blink during startup. Be sure that you HAVE A ZIP DISK IN THE DRIVE DURING BOOTUP - this is critical. RCS New Products: - ----------------------------------------------------- BlueWave Vintage Synth CD-ROM $99.95! TS/MR Tools for Windows $39.95! EPS/ASR Sampler Guide Available December 1st! Ten-Tone Temperment Disks $49.95! This message from: | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | | Garth Hjelte | | Customer Service Representative / Owner | | Rubber Chicken Software Co. | | 714 5th Street SE | | Willmar, MN 56201 USA | | | | 1-800-8-PRO-EPS - Toll Free Order Line | | 320-235-9798 - Technical Support and | | EPS/ASR/TS question line - Fax | | chickenEPS@willmar.com - e-mail | | OUR WEB PAGE | | http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps | | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:16:26 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: Soundvert (was: EPS: Re: EPS/ASR Tools) Terje wrote about faulte *.efe-files : >>I am referring to that several programs have been - made, distributed and >>sold - for PC/IBM/MS/Wintel machines that create files with extentions >>'EFE' that are what I have called 'time bombs'. On some samplers they will >>crash when/if you edit them, while on others they will crash immidiately. >>I think that is a problem, in particular the 'time bomb', while many people >>have expressed they disagree. [...] Garth from "Rubber Chicken Software Co." answered: >This is correct. Soundvert was victim of this, as well as Awave and some >other programs. Without going into the file format specifically, I see why >this has happened. (Pointers not being set, bad understanding of certain >parameters that needed to be adjusted a certain way). >[...] "Soundvert" by Tim Dorcas (for those who don't know: a nice little utility to convert *.wav's, *.smp's etc. to *.efe-files for direct transfer to Ensoniq-compatible disks) is really a timebomb, although neverteheless quite usefull, after you found out about its peculiarities and how to dea with them ;-). Garth, I own Vers. 1.0, but I seem to remember a newer version (...do you have Tim's valid e-mail, BTW? I got a bounce or two a while back.). If this is true - are the bugs fixed? Are there no more crashes when doing sampledata-edits? Is the naming convention implemented? And is the sampling-rate translated correct now (.... I'm getting tired of changing the rate of _each_ sample manually from 14.2 (?) to 44.1 kHz on the WAVESAMPLE INFORMATION-page :-P) Dietz / ASL PS: Happy X-Mas & New Year! Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #307 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:44 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n308' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #308 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, December 26 1996 Volume 02 : Number 308 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 96 16:11:11 -0500 From: wruud@mail07.mitre.org (William H. Ruud) Subject: EPS: EPS Classic/MOTU Digital Performer Happy New Year to all...but this is driving me nuts. Through the magic of EPSm, my samples can happily commute between work (PPC 8100) and home studio which includes a Classic. I recently got the bright idea to bring performances created on Classic sequencer into Mac (MOTU Digital Performer) for rearranging, trying out alternate voicings etc. thru a Korg X5DR. We're talking purely MIDI sequence data here, but I can't get Performer to see the sequence files nohow. EPSm sees them just fine. Terje's excellent manual says about the EPSm "exPort" command: "If an ASR or 16+ sequences are selected, then exPort will save the sequence as a Midi file of type 1." which is just what I want to do only with Classic sequences. I'm missing something very, very, simple right? Right, and I'm only working on it during lunch too. Seems like if I could save an EPS sequence as type 1 then Performer would have to recognize it. I would greatly appreciate some expert help & this is the place to come for it. Thanks very much in advance. If anyone wants an opinion of the X5DR, just ask me off-list. - Regards, Bill Ruud ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #308 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:45 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n309' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #309 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, December 27 1996 Volume 02 : Number 309 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 09:44:51 -0500 (EST) From: cshadows@polaris.net Subject: EPS: unconnected scsi dev I am still working on getting my zip drive to work with my asr-10. One thing that I noticed on Rubber Chicken's web page concerning SCSI Troubleshooting Tips: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps/rcs_tips.htm#SCSITrouble was that as the asr boots up, I am supposed to see a prompt that says "SEARCHING FOR SCSI DEVICE" at which point I should watch the zip drive blink. I never see SEARCHING FOR SCSI DEVICE although I believe that I have a scsi port in my asr. I have a scsi DB25 port on the back of the case and the box it came in said that it had the scsi port installed so short of opening up the asr, I have to say that I am pretty sure I have a port. Any Ideas where to look next or should I just go ahead and open up the asr? Sean - -- | The CruxShadows | cshadows@nexus.polaris.net | | P.O. Box 2002 | | | Tallahassee Fl, 32316-2002 | | | http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/2328 | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:29:34 -0500 (EST) From: cshadows@polaris.net Subject: EPS: unconnected scsi dev Well, after much calling to ensoniq and even more whining on the eps list (isn't that what it is for?) I believe I have found my problem. Garth, Terje, and ensoniq all told me that there must be something amiss with my scsi port which is why it doesn't seem to work. Luckily, I am still under warranty although I wonder what would have happened if I had purchased my zip drive (From the fine folks at Rubber Chicken) after my warranty had lapsed. Anyway, it appears that there are some jumpers in the asr that tell it where a scsi port is really there and the technician feels that they must be set incorrectly. I'll keep you posted (whether you are interested or not). Sean - -- | The CruxShadows | cshadows@nexus.polaris.net | | P.O. Box 2002 | | | Tallahassee Fl, 32316-2002 | | | http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/2328 | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 12:50:14 -0600 From: Shannon Wegner Subject: [none] unsubscribe eps-digest ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #309 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:46 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n310' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #310 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Saturday, December 28 1996 Volume 02 : Number 310 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 13:26:12 +0200 (EET) From: Petteri Ihalainen Subject: EPS: Tools and samples > >I am referring to that several programs have been - made, distributed and > >sold - for PC/IBM/MS/Wintel machines that create files with extentions > >'EFE' that are what I have called 'time bombs'. On some samplers they will > >crash when/if you edit them, while on others they will crash immidiately. > >I think that is a problem, in particular the 'time bomb', while many people > >have expressed they disagree. There are many of those files on the net > >today. Usually it is caused by real errors, intrinsic errors in the > >programs generating the files. One large archive - Petteri's - clearly > >warns about this. And these samples are converted samples. Originally Kurzweils and converted using Awave. > This is correct. Soundvert was victim of this, as well as Awave and some > other programs. Without going into the file format specifically, I see why > this has happened. (Pointers not being set, bad understanding of certain > parameters that needed to be adjusted a certain way). Rubber Chicken is > committed to Tools creating solid 100% Ensoniq-compatible files. It won't > eventually exist any other way. How about EPSdisk. I've been using this program to extract the sounds from floppydisks. I don't use those efe files myself, but I do put them to my page. Is there going to be some "time bombs" - no complaints so far - phew... To the next matter -> some ESQm samples are now available. 4 so far, but more tomorrow. Those samples are mainly multilayered, large (over 3000 blocks) samples and they include the basic sample(s) in the first stereolayer, and the mucho resonance (ESQm filter) layer in the next. Velocity controls the cutoff in the resonance layer. Most of them are looped. (Some are not so good, but you can do the job yourself if you need). I've poured quite many hours on these samples, so I really hope you enjoy... (The first 4 are not edited, as far as I can remember...) http://myy.helbp.fi/~ihalapet ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:09:43 +1100 From: "Lj.Garrett" Subject: EPS: ASR10-PC software Hi is there any good software for the PC that uses a SCSI interface to the ASR10? Any suggestions? Thanks ****************************** \\|// Lynden J Garrett (o o) ~ _____________________________ Midi arranger & performer Lj.garrett@hunterlink.net.au ******************************** ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #310 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:47 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n311' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #311 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, December 29 1996 Volume 02 : Number 311 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:50:06 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Sevanick Subject: EPS: defrag when restore on 16+ too? Someone told me that when you backup a harddrive then restore it, the ASR automatically defrags the data. Is this true for the 16+? Thanks Chris ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #311 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:47 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v02.n312' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V2 #312 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, December 31 1996 Volume 02 : Number 312 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:18:22 -0500 From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: Re: TSTools Version 2.1 In a message dated 96-12-23 23:05:37 EST, Terje wrote: > Gary wrote among others.. > > >I've heard several horror stories about your current release 2.1 of TSTools: > >Apparently, the program creates corrupted EFE and EFA files which can crash > >the EPS and ASR. > > I am a little disturbed by that Gary, apparently, is referring to rumors > instead of his own experience. I have been assured that > the files are OK ( from a very biased source ), but I have no experience > with that program nor the files it generate. Should we find out? > > Terje I verified that the files I mentioned were created by version 2.1 of TSTools and were corrupt. I apologize for not stating that more clearly. Garth from Rubber Chicken has also contacted us and assured us that the problems with TSTools would be corrected. Gary Giebler ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:12:13 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: Re: EPS: Re: TSTools Version 2.1 In regards to the demo version of this product, I found it extremely unstable, and deleted it within an hour of installing it. I have a TS12 and would love to have a functional version of the product. I tried Win95, Win3.11 and Win NT 4.0 and had similar results on all platforms: crashes, divide overflows, hung program, divide by zero, etc. I am running an IBM Value point P90 with 32 megs of ram, an 8x cdrom, 1 gig hard drive, 28.8 modem, svga monitor. This should have been sufficient to run the program confortably. Instead, there was quite a bit of disk thrashing going on. The modality of dialogs proved to be another problem. That is, I was able to bring up other 'pages' while, say the page to draw a .wav was busy running. This hung the program regularly. The programmer should REALLy add some exception handling around his code to trap and handle errors! I often got a VB message box, and then program just died silently. The program does not use a familiar interface. For 'pages', tabstrips should have been used. The placement of iconic buttons was rather odd. The tooltip (fly-by info about controls) was never correct (the little text box never cooresponded to the control my pointer was over). The author should look at existing commercial products and try to adopt the familiar look and feel. Using the program was NOT intuitive. I was often confused, even after reading the on-line documentation and browsing the help file. I was only able to download a 16 bit version of the product. What's the deal here? 16 bit VB code is painfully slow to execute on 95 or NT. It appears to me that the author was writting the product for the lowest common denominator. My other criticism of the product is that a beta should NOT be crippled. At most, it should just have an expiration date, or have a limited number of times it can run. I wanted to check out the quality of .wav to asr format conversions. That is one of the primary reasons I would have to purchase the product. If I had proof that this product ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:45:39 +0100 From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Subject: Re: EPS: Re: TSTools Version 2.1 What if RCS made a separate TSTools mail distribution list? I would think that specific comments and bug reports could be very valuable to the programmers of TSTools. I feel some of the details are less interesting to the EPS-list as a whole. There has not been that many posts, so I don't complain. Some posts were also OK for a reasonable balance in the information flow. I've just got an impression there could be a lot coming. Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:34 EST From: MARIANI@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil (Mariani, James) Subject: EPS: TS-10 as a general MIDI sound module Does anyone have any experience using a TS-10 as a general MIDI sound module in conjuction with an external sequencer such as Cakewalk? Is it a practical sound module or would I be better off looking elsewhere for this purpose? Does anyone know of any general MIDI resources for the TS-10? i.e. Patches, drum maps, etc. Thanks, Jim Mariani ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:18:15 +0100 From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Subject: Re: EPS: Re: TSTools Version 2.1 Gary wrote, a relatively long time ago >>>I've heard several horror stories about your current release >>>2.1 of TSTools: >>>Apparently, the program creates corrupted EFE and EFA files >>>which can crash the EPS and ASR. We never could guess there ever was a problem from Garths response. Gary wrote, not so long ago >I verified that the files I mentioned were created by version 2.1 of TSTools >and were corrupt. I apologize for not stating that more clearly. Garth from >Rubber Chicken has also contacted us and assured us that the problems with >TSTools would be corrected. I just repeat, perhaps for the 101st time, and justify that in this context: Always be careful with files you find on the net and be skeptical to PC utilities generating instrument files for the Ensoniq samplers, I now add: Also be sceptical to TSTools until it is verified it is OK. Had Garth's reaction been another than what it was to this, then it would not have been nessecary to say that. For two years have Rubber Chicken sold SounVert and advertised it heavily . Garth has known for equally long that the program create corrupt files. I have told him. Many people seems more than happy with it. Make your own conclusions; Naturally, RCS/Garth is not going to fix anything if it is not good business to do so; so we should make sure it is good business to do it and therefore bad business not to. Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:11:58 -0800 From: James Steele Subject: EPS: Alchemy and PowerCenter 120 with Sys. 7.5.5 Has anybody gotten this combination to work??? I'm using a PowerCenter 120 with System 7.5.5. Alchemy 3.0 and my EPS 16+. This combo is all messed up. Alchemy tries to talk to the EPS 16+ via MIDI to initiate SCSI sample transfers, etc. but it hangs every time. Am I up the creek without a paddle (or a PASSPORT)? Is Passport going to support Alchemy any more at all?? James ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V2 #312 ************************* Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:48 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n001' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #1 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, January 1 1997 Volume 03 : Number 001 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 00:17:42 -0800 From: emilyl@erols.com Subject: EPS: Emulating a MAC on PC for Alchemy, etc. Attention Terje, Garth, or anyone knowledgeable!! Knowing that #1.Some Macintosh programs can be run on a PC with the use of emulation software, #2.Alchemy and performer as well as turbosynth (I think) are all mac exclusive programs, #3.There are many PC owners that would love to use these programs, and finally #4.Where there's a will there's a way, I am interested to know whether anyone has tried, with or without success, to run these programs through the aid of an emulator, on an IBM-compatible PC - anyone?? Understandably there would be lag that would make using any sequencer virtually impossible, but alchemy and turbosynth both perform functions that could, I believe, be performed competently on a higher grade PC. An interesting but highly improbable question posed - an interesting answer provided? Tune in next time to the fabulous EPS mailing list . . . . . - -Damien Thorn ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 09:16:16 -0800 From: Jeff Porter Subject: re: EPS: TS-10 as a general MIDI sound module Jim, I use a TS -12 in the general midi mode with Cakewqlk professional, (I think it is 5.0, I can't find the CD at the moment), it works fine, in fact I downloaded a bunch of Christmas stuff in midi and just "played" it with no manipulations, and it sounded pretty good. I feel guilty in that I don't do more with all this music stuff, something about time and lots of other ways to use it. Jeff Porter, Brodheadsville PA > From: MARIANI@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil (Mariani, James), on 12/31/96 3:34 PM: > Does anyone have any experience using a TS-10 as a general MIDI sound > module in conjuction with an external sequencer such as Cakewalk? > > Is it a practical sound module or would I be better off looking > elsewhere for this purpose? > > Does anyone know of any general MIDI resources for the TS-10? i.e. > Patches, drum maps, etc. > > > > Thanks, > > Jim Mariani > > > > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > > > ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 21:41:26 -0500 From: Michael McAfee Subject: EPS: EPS CD-ROMS Using a CD-R Is it possible to create a CD-ROM in Ensoniq format using a PC and CD-R recorder? I would like to compile my 300 odd disks on a single CD-ROM. Any ideas as to whether this is possible, and if it is, what software and procedures are required to write the CD-R in Ensoniq format? Thanks. Mike McAfee michael@mpm.mv.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #1 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:49 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n002' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #2 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, January 2 1997 Volume 03 : Number 002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:38:45 -0500 From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: TS-10 as a general MIDI sound module > From: MARIANI@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil (Mariani, James) > > Does anyone have any experience using a TS-10 as a general MIDI sound > module in conjuction with an external sequencer such as Cakewalk? > Is it a practical sound module or would I be better off looking > elsewhere for this purpose? It would be an expensive choice, but it would do the job quite well. > Does anyone know of any general MIDI resources for the TS-10? i.e. > Patches, drum maps, etc. All of the General MIDI patches and drum maps are included on the factory diskette included with the TS. Keep in mind that only Version 3.00 and later TS keyboards have the General MIDI option. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:11:53 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: Re: EPS: Emulating a MAC on PC for Alchemy, etc. Damien Thorn wrote on: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 00:17:42 -0800 >Subject: EPS: Emulating a MAC on PC for Alchemy, etc. > >Attention Terje, Garth, or anyone knowledgeable!! > > Knowing that #1.Some Macintosh programs can be run on a PC with the >use of emulation software, #2.Alchemy and performer as well as turbosynth >(I think) are all mac exclusive programs, #3.There are many PC owners >that would love to use these programs, and finally #4.Where there's a >will there's a way, I am interested to know whether anyone has tried, >with or without success, to run these programs through the aid of an >emulator, on an IBM-compatible PC - anyone?? > >Understandably there would be lag that would make using any sequencer >virtually impossible, but alchemy and turbosynth both perform functions >that could, I believe, be performed competently on a higher grade PC. I doubt that you would benefit from an emulated Mac-_software_ on a PC, because you won't have emulated _hardware_-access. No MIDI, no SCSI, no SMPTE .... Emulation may be useful for CAD, word- or some types of image-processing, but certainly not for programs making heavy use of busses and/or interfaces (and especially Alchemy, which is known to be very "hardware-oriented"). ... this is a real pity as I had to buy a Mac only for running Alchemy ... 8-) Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 13:22:15 +0100 From: Haakon.Berg@alcatel.no (Haakon Berg) Subject: EPS: ASR10: Error 129 - reboot? Error 129 - reboot? Fairly often when my SCSI equipped 16MB ASR10 is asked to do anything semi complex memory wise it pops this "question". To which I usually answer "yes"....it doesn't take no for an answer 8-( I can live with it, but it *is* rather annoying. Does anyone know the explanation / workarounds? - -haakon ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:35:52 +0100 From: canine@muenster.de (K.9 Kai Niggemann) Subject: Re: EPS: ASR10: Error 129 - reboot? At 13:22 Uhr on 02.01.1997 Haakon Berg wrote:>Error 129 - reboot? > >Fairly often when my SCSI equipped 16MB ASR10 is asked to do anything >semi complex memory wise it pops this "question". To which I usually >answer "yes"....it doesn't take no for an answer 8-( > >I can live with it, but it *is* rather annoying. Does anyone know >the explanation / workarounds? After I installed some RAM SIMMs that were good for the Macintosh but bad for the ASR, I got this error about every other minute. It could be a hardware problem. A friend of mine had his ASR sent in and fixed for the dreaded 129... didn't even take that long... BTW: there is a german electronic/techno project that's called "Error 129"...;) Canine - -- __________________________________________________________________________ FHD\SOA\71K9\A9IS\THE\OWLS\ARE\NOT\WHAT\THEY\SEEM\2199\SDFK\SKD\SD\CANINE\ Kai Niggemann fon: +49 - 251 - 661833 johanniterstr 17.48145 muenster. phax: +49 - 251 - 661852 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:32:11 +0100 From: "Kai Niggemann (Canine)" Subject: EPS: Samples for our machines To some of you, this may be old news, but I have just discovered a huge archive of samples for the ASR, EPS, TS at this location: http://www.midilink.nl/flist/91.htm Unfortunately you need to donate money to get to the samples. Fortunately the problem is only one of time (i.e. you can't get them rightaway), because the minimum amount you need to donate is 15 $ (i.e. No Big Deal)... They also have a great amount of other things (www.midilink.nl). Utilities for the computer (Music/MIDI-related), editors, etc.etc... check it out. Canine - -- __________________________________________________________________________ FHD\SOA\71K9\A9IS\THE\OWLS\ARE\NOT\WHAT\THEY\SEEM\2199\SDFK\SKD\SD\CANINE\ Kai Niggemann fon: +49 - 251 - 661833 johanniterstr 17.48145 muenster. phax: +49 - 251 - 661852 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #2 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:50 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n003' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #3 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, January 3 1997 Volume 03 : Number 003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:52:00 -0800 From: Thomas Trent Subject: EPS: CD-ROM problems I am running the Giebler Ensoniq Disk Manager 1.1.0 software and just got an Ensoniq CD-ROM. I am unable to access the CD-ROM. That is, when I try to extract a file from the CD I get an error message stating that my CD is not an Ensoniq CD. However, when I start the program it shows both the CD-ROM type and the name and number of the Ensoniq CD. I am using a generic PC with a ATAPI type CD-ROM, which is an IDE type. Am I out of luck because my CD-ROM is not a SCSI? It's weird because it appears that the program can read the disk...anyone had similar experience/solutions? Tom Trent ttrent@oregon.uoregon.edu ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: 03 Jan 97 10:19:08 EST From: Matt Chinn <70004.4322@compuserve.com> Subject: EPS: Error 129 >>BTW: there is a german electronic/techno project that's called "Error 129"...;)<< I once wrote a song called "Error 129" based on this exact error which occured many times throughout the session. mattc ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:58:34 -0500 (EST) From: Heather McVay Subject: EPS: Sequence Software I am about to buy Sequencing software for my PC. I think I like CUBASE AUDIO over Cakewalk. From the demos I tried at www.cakewalk.com www.steinberg-us.com Could anyone privately email me on your opinions before I purchase it thanks ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 20:51:54 GMT From: Bill Pullan Subject: EPS: EPS 16+ questions. Hi, I've just bought an EPS 16+ sampler. Can anyone answer any of these questions. Cheers. 1. I didn't get a manual with it. Does anyone know where I can get one? 2. There's no SCSI and i'd like to attach a ZIP drive. Does anyone know where I could get a SCSI interface (how much are they?), and will a ZIP drive work with it? (I've heard various comments about this). 3. What's the best way to get a .WAV file from my PC, into the EPS. I've tried the GKH / IMG utils but can't seem to create a recognisable EPS disk. Epsilon is very quirky. Is there a better way?? Thanks Bill. ( bill@tempsoft.demon.co.uk ) ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:24:15 -0600 (CST) From: Christopher Gray Subject: Re: EPS: Sequence Software Forget them all and go with a *real* sequencer - Logic from Emagic. I use Logic and Logic Audio and they are quite efficient. Beats the hell out of the ASR10's clumsy sequencer. It's very detailed and intimidating..but if you're willing to grow into it..it's worth it. On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Heather McVay wrote: > > > I am about to buy Sequencing software for my > PC. I think I like CUBASE AUDIO over Cakewalk. > > > From the demos I tried at > > www.cakewalk.com > www.steinberg-us.com > > > > Could anyone privately email me on your opinions > before I purchase it > > > thanks > > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:00:56 -0600 From: Squishy Subject: Re: EPS: Sequence Software At 04:24 PM 1/3/97 -0600, Christopher Gray wrote: If we're supposed to forget them all and go with a *real* sequencer like you suggest, wouldn't we be getting something like an Arp Sequencer? >Forget them all and go with a *real* sequencer - Logic from Emagic. >I use Logic and Logic Audio and they are quite efficient. Beats the hell >out of the ASR10's clumsy sequencer. It's very detailed and >intimidating..but if you're willing to grow into it..it's worth it. Vince. Squishy Records http://www.realtime.net/~squishy " On the other hand, for a new subscriber from any country even the normal discourse here probably seems like Sanskrit. I remember reading stuff that sounded like "the 734 isn't as phat as the 333 but if you replaces the prestidigitator 999 you can get almost as much bleen out as from a ZYXH88#!" " -- Kent Williams ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:19:54 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: EPS: Reading .gkh files into a TS12/10 I have found several sites that have eps files as a .gkh type and was wondering just how I would go about using them on a TS12 machine. I tried using the epsdisk program v1.30b from Micheal Chen and was not able to come up with a combination that worked. As a long-time user of the net, synths and computers (started in 1972 on a DEC PSP-8/e when I was 12, got into analog synths at age 15 when a member of my band bought an Arp Odyessy, and have been active on the net for the last 5 years) I openly embrace public domain sounds and samples. I have recentgly purchased a fully-expanded TS12 with scsi (also have a VFX, AKAI AX80, KORG DW8000, ARP ODYESSY, HAMMOND PORTA-B W/ LESLIE 147, (2) ALESIS MMT-8 SEQS and an ALESIS HR-16 DRUM MACHINE). I have ordered the Giebler EDM software, but still a need for more functionality (not knowcking Giebler products, they are quite functional, and they certainly appear to be commited to the end-use... they even called me long distance when I could not get their program to run under NT... what a good bunch of guys :) ) Anyhow, I digress... Is there any way to put EPS samples in .GKH format on a TS12??? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, toddw@voicenet.com aka toddw@synergration.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:25:17 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: Re: EPS: Sequence Software Squishy wrote: > If we're supposed to forget them all and go with a *real* sequencer > like you suggest, wouldn't we be getting something like an Arp > Sequencer? While the 32-note (fully expanded) Arp Sequencer was great in 1978, we all *know* that nobody would use one now. I do still find an occasional use for the good 'ol dual-vco sound of my Odyessy, and the ring-modulator and S&H circuits were pretty kewl in those days. Let's try and keep this mailing list free of flaming. We are all tempermental musicians with biases only explained by our art itself. Regards, Todd Whitmore toddw@voicenet.com aka toddw@synergration.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:31:26 -0500 From: kearney Subject: EPS: Re: More on Alchemy 3.0 and PowerCenter You GO James! I see we've both been given a hefty pile of crap about this.I got the same SCSI form letter from Passport about my brand new problems.In all fairness though it may not be entirely their fault/responsibility. I couldn't even get my SCSI probe to find the 16+. Sooo I'm wondering if the 16+ SCSI interface just can't handle the the speed of the Power Macs? You know just like you can't use a Bernoulli drive with them and other hard drives? So is this terminal for us? Because inspite of Passport being non-supportive does this mean that there will be no sa-mple editor for us with our new Macs and old 16+? I think I'll start bugging Ensoniq again. There's got to be some way around this. By the way if you haven't tried it out of desperation,the midi transfer works quite nicely, if you don't mind waiting half your remaining natural life for the data to transfer.And we bought new machines to speed things up. Go figure! There's got to be someone out there,HELP! Kearney ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 20:34:46 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: EPS: TS10/12 users Anyone know of, or want to form a TS10/12 list?? Seems that while we have alot in common with the EPS and ASR folks, that we could take some of our TS-specific topics off-line. All suggestions welcome either through this list or directly to me at: toddw@voicenet.com (personal accout) or toddw@synergration.com (business account) Regards, Todd Whitmore ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #3 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:50 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n004' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #4 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Saturday, January 4 1997 Volume 03 : Number 004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:58:12 -0500 From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: Re: EPS: CD-ROM problems > From: Thomas Trent <> > I am running the Giebler Ensoniq Disk Manager 1.1.0 software and just got > an Ensoniq CD-ROM. I am unable to access the CD-ROM. That is, when I try > to extract a file from the CD I get an error message stating that my CD is > not an Ensoniq CD. However, when I start the program it shows both the > CD-ROM type and the name and number of the Ensoniq CD. I am using a > generic PC with a ATAPI type CD-ROM, which is an IDE type. Am I out of > luck because my CD-ROM is not a SCSI? It's weird because it appears that > the program can read the disk...anyone had similar experience/solutions? EDM can read the PC's IDE CD-ROM. However, you must have Microsoft's CD-ROM Extensions (MSCDEX) loaded. MSCDEX.EXE should be in your autoexec.bat file. If you have questions regarding the configuration or need further assistance, please contact us directly at giebler@aol.com or call (610) 933-0332. Gary Giebler ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 01:10:12 -0500 From: "Russell T. Graham" Subject: Re: EPS: Sequence Software Cubase Audio vs. Cakewalk Pro Audio vs. Logic Audio (I'm stating the Audio versions since it sounds like that's what's being sought) Cakewalk is very easy and intuitive to use, but has a minimum of audio editing and manipulation facilities. No pitch shifting, and limited audio quantization. Cubase is more powerful, but therefore somewhat harder to learn. I heard of problems with frequent crashes in early releases of Cubase Audio, but I don't know what the current release status is. Many more audio features, I believe. Logic is probably the most powerful sequencer available for PC *or* Mac, let alone the most powerful of the three. It also comes with a _steep_ learning curve. I believe it does such cool things to the audio as audio-to-MIDI (pitch recognition) and MIDI-to-audio (forcing new pitches onto the audio data without altering tempo). I think Cubase does similar tricks, but Logic's programmers are reluctant to program anythin unless they can make the sequencer do it in REAL TIME - - on the fly. Really. Very cool, very powerful, but not as intuitive or quick to pick up as the others. Oh - Logic also uses a hardware dongle off the serial port as copy protection. This means that once you own the program, you own all future updates as well; but occasionally there are glitches with dongle recognition. It all depends on how much power you need and how much time and effort you're willing to invest in understanding your software. Just my two rubles worth, Russ _ ___ _ _ _ [) | | ( ( [_ | | | / [) /_\ |_| /_\ |\/| |\ \_/ ) ) [_ |_ |_ |. \_] |\ | | | | | | | | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:58:34 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: Re: EPS: Sequence Software >Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:24:15 -0600 (CST) >From: Christopher Gray >Subject: Re: EPS: Sequence Software > >On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Heather McVay wrote: > >> I am about to buy Sequencing software for my >> PC. I think I like CUBASE AUDIO over Cakewalk. >> >Forget them all and go with a *real* sequencer - Logic from Emagic. >[...] It's very detailed and >intimidating..but if you're willing to grow into it..it's worth it. :-) Forget Logic from Emagic and go with a *real* sequencer - Cubase from Steinberg. It's very detailed, _but not at all_ as intimidating as Logic; nevertheless, it lets you grow into it..it's worth it. (-: ************ We won't start a software-flame here, will we? .... thank you. Dietz Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm [updated 1-1-97] - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:51:31 +0000 From: remora@serbia-c.it.earthlink.net Subject: Re: EPS: Sequence Software On 4 Jan 97 at 1:10, Russell T. Graham wrote: > Cubase is more powerful, but therefore somewhat harder to learn. I > heard of problems with frequent crashes in early releases of Cubase > Audio, but I don't know what the current release status is. Many > more audio features, I believe. > Russ > I own Cubase Audio and use it with Session 8 and a pretty extensive midi setup with lots of control data going to several of the latest midi/analogues. It works excellent and I have encountered no problems. The use of custom designable mixermaps and such make it really nice for this sort of thing. The only other time that I want to use another sequencer is when I want to get that old-school analogue sequencer in my composing. I have found a couple of such programs on the net that emulate that sort (Tekno Boxx, and SEQ-303 for a start. As far as the crashes with Cubase go. I had an earlier version and it would freeze at times (when I was moving around between windows during real-time editing). With the latest version that I have this has not happened once and I've been using it for months now. Stienberg also provided me the update for free because I was a registered user. As far as Logic being the only "real"sequencer, it is no doubt the most powerful (and expensive), but does that mean that anything below is not real? I don't think so. The other posts were all good advice. Each sequencer has it's pro's and con's and each person can decide which is right for them. http://home.earthlink.net/~remora rem.o.ra \'rem-*-r*\ \-r*d\ n [L, lit., delay, fr. remorari to delay, fr. re- + morari to d]elay - more at MORATORY 1: any of several specialized fishes (of Echeneis and related genera) having the anterior dorsal fin converted into a suctorial disk on the head by means of which they cling to other fishes and to ships ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #4 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:52 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n005' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #5 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, January 5 1997 Volume 03 : Number 005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:00:30 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: Shan Schaefer Subject: Re: EPS: EPS 16+ questions. Bill, At 08:51 PM 1/3/97 GMT, you wrote: > >Hi, > I've just bought an EPS 16+ sampler. Can anyone answer any of >these questions. Cheers. > >1. I didn't get a manual with it. Does anyone know where I can get >one? Accessory Order Line at 1-800-553-5151 Don't know the rest Shan - -- Shan Schaefer Night Drop Records shans@nightdrop.com 303 West 55th Street Fone: 512/374.9055 Austin, Texas 78751 Fax: 512/453.7573 http://www.nightdrop.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 09:23:49 -0000 From: Paul Najar Subject: Re: EPS: Re: More on Alchemy 3.0 and PowerCenter > >I see we've both been given a hefty pile of crap about this.I got the >same SCSI form letter from Passport about my brand new problems.In all >fairness though it may not be entirely their fault/responsibility. I >couldn't even get my SCSI probe to find the 16+. Sooo I'm wondering if >the 16+ SCSI interface just can't handle the the speed of the Power >Macs? You know just like you can't use a Bernoulli drive with them and >other hard drives? So is this terminal for us? Because inspite of >Passport being non-supportive does this mean that there will be no >sa-mple editor for us with our new Macs and old 16+? I think I'll start >bugging Ensoniq again. There's got to be some way around this. >By the way if you haven't tried it out of desperation,the midi transfer >works quite nicely, if you don't mind waiting half your remaining >natural life for the data to transfer.And we bought new machines to >speed things up. Go figure! Forgive me if this is not correct but I have been away and missed the begginning of this thread. I assume what you are talking about is achieving reliable SCSI transfer between 16+ and mac (Power Centre) using alchemy. It can be done, but not with complete reliability. If this is what you are talking about please update me on where you are at with it and I can hopefully give you more info... Paul Najar Jaminajar Production Composition Arrangement Performance 61 2 93607234 (fax) 61 2 93601985 ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:24:56 -0500 (EST) From: bugg@marquis.netinc.ca Subject: EPS: New to SCSI I am just about to purchase a Removable Dynatek Jazz drive, and install a SCSI port on my ASR. Does anyone have any vital information for me? I know it will only format about 600Meg on the disk, but that's about it.(right?) Will there ever be a time when i can format the whole gig? Is a Zip drive better?, Is a Syquest better?, Is the Jazz drive a feasable purchase? I also want to know if the drive will be compatable with my PC. Will it work thru my printer port? Any info will be greatly appreciated! Thanks Hugo "If all else fails, use the open eye." - - Chonky Orkin Boggles ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #5 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:53 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n006' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #6 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, January 6 1997 Volume 03 : Number 006 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 01:53 EST From: MARIANI@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil (Mariani, James) Subject: EPS: TS-10 OS upgrade Could someone tell me how to determine what operating system version I am running on my TS-10. I've looked through the manual several times, but it doesn't address this. Also, how do I upgrade to the newest version? Thanks, Jim Mariani ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 05:06:37 -0800 From: jcuervo@pacbell.net Subject: EPS: Eps16+ A syquest new Ez230??? Anyone had experience using this drive with the eps16+? I know you can use it with the Ez135, but I was hoping for a bit of input on anyone's experiences using the Ez230. Thanks. Jcuervo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 05:07:17 -0800 From: jcuervo@pacbell.net Subject: EPS: Eps16+ A syquest new Ez230??? Anyone had experience using this drive with the eps16+? I know you can use it with the Ez135, but I was hoping for a bit of input on anyone's experiences using the Ez230. Thanks. Jcuervo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 08:35:24 -0700 From: Walt Hubis Subject: EPS: ASR-10 Floppy Drives I've got an ASR-10, for which I need a new floppy drive. What's the current wisdom on getting a replacement. So far, all Ensoniq will do is tell me I have to take it to their service center to have their proprietary drive installed by their technician. (Not only is it proprietary, but *they* have to install it, and I get to pay. Sheeeesh.) Walt whubis@rmii.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:29:57 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: EPS: Re: More on Alchemy 3.0 and PowerCenter Has anyone tried the application Peak, from Bias (www.bias-inc.com)? It is a sample editor and claims to work with ensonic scsi transfers. It was written by Steve Berkeley, author of the infamous Infinity sample editor's ASR SCSI utility which drove me insane.(Hee hee hee heeeeee smack!) It looks ok, has reports of bugs, but should be checked out. On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, kearney wrote: > You GO James! > > I see we've both been given a hefty pile of crap about this.I got the > same SCSI form letter from Passport about my brand new problems.In all > fairness though it may not be entirely their fault/responsibility. I > couldn't even get my SCSI probe to find the 16+. Sooo I'm wondering if > the 16+ SCSI interface just can't handle the the speed of the Power > Macs? You know just like you can't use a Bernoulli drive with them and > other hard drives? So is this terminal for us? Because inspite of > Passport being non-supportive does this mean that there will be no > sa-mple editor for us with our new Macs and old 16+? I think I'll start > bugging Ensoniq again. There's got to be some way around this. > By the way if you haven't tried it out of desperation,the midi transfer > works quite nicely, if you don't mind waiting half your remaining > natural life for the data to transfer.And we bought new machines to > speed things up. Go figure! > > There's got to be someone out there,HELP! > > Kearney > > > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:44:10 -0500 From: QUAZ4@aol.com Subject: EPS: NO MORE IOMEGA FOR ME I will never buy another IOMEGA product. I just purchased a brand new iomega zip drive. Now, mind you....is my second drive. I shipped the first one back to iomega because it didn't recognize the FORMAT command from my ASR-10. They said that they were aware of the problem, and that I should send it to them, and they would send me one that would work (one that follows the AV spec for hard drives). While it was away, I figured that I would go ahead and get a new one, to use to back-up files on my VS880. I got the new drive, hooked it up to my 880, and low and behold...when I tried to format the scsi....the 880 locked up. I mean LOCKED UP and I couldn't do anything. I new this spelled trouble...because I would have to turn off my 880 without shutting it down properly. AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I POWERED BACK UP??? ALL THE SONGS...GONE GONE GONE. Now, I figured...ok...I lost a couple of instrumentals...but they're midi data anyway. I can redo the vocals that were lost. The main songs that I didn't want to lose were stored on zip already. Now, when I re-formatted my 880 and tried to load a song from zip disk...I got media errors...on ALL OF THE ZIPS. Now, these things were not stored anywhere near harmful fields, or humidity..or anything else that could have damaged them. So, I figure...ok..I'll just take this new one back, and wait for my replacement drive from iomega. Guess what? When that thing came in, IT DOESN"T WORK EITHER. It doesn't work with my ASR-10...and it doesn't even work with my VS-880 anymore. (at least it used to do that). I am beyond pissed at this point. DOES ANYONE USE A SYQUEST? What have your experiences been? Would you recommend it as a back-up solution? Tony Daniels ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:30:01 -0700 (MST) From: twinny2 Subject: EPS: SIMMS for ASR10 i cannot for the life of me find 30 pin, 4MB, 8chip, nonparity SIMMS in this cursed city i live in. everything is parity, and 9chip or 3chip. i was just wondering if the asr can handle 3chip SIMMS, 60ns? like, do these SIMMS have to conform to these specific specifications indicated in the ASR10 manual? i have 4 megs in the asr10 now and i believe all four are 70 ns. is it highly not recommended to mix these simms with 60 ns simms? because the 3chip nonparity simms that i did find, are all 60ns. argh. anyone have any experiences with using these 3chip simms 60ns? - -jin@cs.ualberta.ca ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 20:41:28 -0500 From: C Jones Subject: Re: EPS: NO MORE IOMEGA FOR ME At 4:44 PM -0500 1/6/97, QUAZ4@aol.com wrote: >DOES ANYONE USE A SYQUEST? What have your experiences been? Would you >recommend it as a back-up solution? > > >Tony Daniels FWIW... I've been using an Iomega Bernoulli 150 drive with no probs chained between my EPS 16+ and my Mac... I have the Zip chained in there as well but haven't tried using it with the EPS yet.. - -Chris ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 02:41 MET From: Clake@t-online.de (Claus Kerscher) Subject: Re: EPS: EPS 16+ questions./ Reading .gkh files into a TS12/10 Bill Pullan wrote: >3. What's the best way to get a .WAV file from my PC, into the EPS. >I've tried the GKH / IMG utils but can't seem to create a recognisable >EPS disk. Epsilon is very quirky. Is there a better way?? The only error free way I know: Cool/Goldwave/Soundforge or maybe others to convert .wav to .aif . Aif2efe (the one and only for this purpose!) to convert .aif to .efe . EPSDisk to write the .efe file to an (formatted!) EPS diskette . Todd Whitmore wrote: >I have found several sites that have eps files as a .gkh type >and was wondering just how I would go about using them on a TS12 >machine. I tried using the epsdisk program v1.30b from Micheal >Chen and was not able to come up with a combination that worked. >Anyhow, I digress... Is there any way to put EPS samples in .GKH format >on >a TS12??? Any help would be greatly appreciated. If your TS is able to read EPS disks, it _should_ read disks written with EPSDisk. Mind to use the right disks (DD or HD). Hope this helps Gunter c/o Clake - -- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #6 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:53 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n007' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #7 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, January 7 1997 Volume 03 : Number 007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:14:56 -0600 From: "Les Morey" Subject: EPS: working on Web page with samples.... Try it out and tell me if anything happens: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1239 ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:25:54 +0000 From: "Joe Frost" Subject: EPS: Test Message. Test message - please ignore. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: 07 Jan 97 10:11:03 EST From: Matt Chinn <70004.4322@compuserve.com> Subject: EPS: Finding SIMMS >>i cannot for the life of me find 30 pin, 4MB, 8chip, nonparity SIMMS in this cursed city i live in.<< Buy a couple of computer magazines that are MACINTOSH-based and look in the classifieds in the back. Call around and you'll find some good deals on 30-pin, non-parity, 4MG, 70ns or more SIMMS. Some are selling for $25 a piece! Or, if you want to be positively sure, order from Rubber Chix Software. mattC ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 19:02:36 -0100 From: Robin Tjaden Subject: Re: EPS: SIMMS for ASR10 >i have 4 megs in the asr10 now and i believe all four are >70 ns. is it highly not recommended to mix these simms >with 60 ns simms? because the 3chip nonparity simms >that i did find, are all 60ns. argh. I'm using 2 x 4 mb 3chip 60ns mixed with 2 x 1 mb 70 ns without any problems here. Im pretty sure they're non-parity (rumors have it that parity mem cause pops and sizzles in your samples so i wouldnt recommend them). I dont know for sure if every asr can use 3 chip mem; I thought the older ones couldnt. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:20:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Loeb Subject: Re: EPS: SIMMS for ASR-10 >i cannot for the life of me find >30 pin, 4MB, 8chip, nonparity SIMMS >in this cursed city i live in. > >everything is parity, and 9chip or 3chip. >i was just wondering if the asr can handle >3chip SIMMS, 60ns? like, do these SIMMS have to >conform to these specific specifications >indicated in the ASR10 manual? YES, they do. If i remember correctly, i went through a frustrating time with this. You CANNOT use 3-DRAM nonparity SIMMs with the ASR-10, much less parity SIMMs. If your cursed city continues to yield no solace on this issue, try contacting Ensoniq as a last resort... good luck, jon BioMuse Productions San Diego ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 14:47:17 -0800 From: Stewart Lindenberger Subject: EPS: ASR memory chips re: ASR memory chips I have done a little digging around looking for low memory prices, and have just placed an order for 4Mb SIMMs which should meet all the ASR-10 requirements: 30 pin 8 chips/simm 70nS no parity (8 bit) cost: $25 each (+ $5 UPS from Oregon to NJ) source: Autotime 503 - 452 - 8577 Will post when I have receieved & installed them. Stew Lindenberger (this is not an endorsement) ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:48:10 -0600 From: "Jason M. Keeler" Subject: Re: EPS: SIMMS for ASR-10 I've had good success dealing with The Chip Merchant. I believe they are in the L.A. area. If you can't find the number let me know and I'll try and dig it out. I bought 8 megs of memory from them about 6 months ago. I think Rubber Chicken also sells memory. Jason - ---------- > From: Jonathan Loeb > To: eps@oak.oakland.edu > Subject: Re: EPS: SIMMS for ASR-10 > Date: Tue, 7 Jan, 1997 12:20 PM > > > > >i cannot for the life of me find > >30 pin, 4MB, 8chip, nonparity SIMMS > >in this cursed city i live in. > > > >everything is parity, and 9chip or 3chip. > >i was just wondering if the asr can handle > >3chip SIMMS, 60ns? like, do these SIMMS have to > >conform to these specific specifications > >indicated in the ASR10 manual? > > > YES, they do. If i remember correctly, i went through a frustrating time > with this. You CANNOT use 3-DRAM nonparity SIMMs with the ASR-10, much > less parity SIMMs. > > If your cursed city continues to yield no solace on this issue, try > contacting Ensoniq as a last resort... > > good luck, > > jon > > BioMuse Productions > San Diego > > > ============================================================================ = > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:11:44 -0500 From: TLester632@aol.com Subject: EPS: Free Sample Issue Of The Songwriter's Tipsheet! - --PART.BOUNDARY.0.9754.emout12.mail.aol.com.852676427 Content-ID: <0_9754_852676427@emout12.mail.aol.com.1075> Content-type: text/plain Here Is A Free Sample Issue Of The Songwriter's Tipsheet. It's a Monthly Tipsheet That Puts You In Touch With Publishers, Producers, And Record Companies Who Are Looking For Songs And New Recording Acts. It Also Provides Excellent Articles On The Music Business And Songwriting. Enjoy! - --PART.BOUNDARY.0.9754.emout12.mail.aol.com.852676427 Content-ID: <0_9754_852676427@emout12.mail.aol.com.1076> Content-type: text/plain; name="TIPSAMP.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here Is A Free Sample Issue Of The September 1996 Songwriter's Tipsheet. Information on how to subscribe to The Songwriter's Tipsheet is listed right after the sample issue. Our Upcoming FEBRUARY Issue Will Have Articles On =0D *How To Promote Your Songs Online *How To Avoid Song Sharks *Interviews With Top A&R Directors & Publishers *List Of Upcoming Songwriting Contests *New Interactive Songwriting Software Programs *More Hot Leads Of Publishers & Record Companies Looking For New Songs & Bands. =0D ENJOY!! =0D THE SONGWRITER'S TIPSHEET SEPTEMBER 1996 ISSUE #29 (c) 1996 By New Sound Music =0D (ARTICLES IN THIS ISSUE) =0D 1. Songwriting Contracts 2. Mechanical Rights 3. Songwriting Organizations 4. The Jingle Market 5. The Music News Link =0D SONGWRITING CONTRACTS There is nothing more confusing in the music business than contracts. All music publishers and record companies are in the business for one reason: To make money! Companies are more interested these days in minimizing their expenses while maximizing their profits. That is why it is so important that songwriters be educated about the business side of music as well as the craft of writing songs. =0D Once you have located a publisher or publishers you like and who are interested in your work, its time to consider the publishing contract-which is an agreement in which the songwriter grants certain rights to the publisher for one or more songs. The contract specifies any advances offered to the writer, the rights that will be transferred to the publishers, the royalties a songwriter is to receive and the length of the time the contract is valid. Usually when a contract is signed a publisher will go for a 50-50 split with the songwriter. This is a usual industry standard. The main reason the publisher takes 50 % is because he has to cover major expenses in running his business and for the work he has to do to try and get your song recorded. We highly recommend that if you do sign with any publisher or record company that you consult an Entertainment lawyer to look over your contract before you sign it. There is really no standard contract in the music business. Most contracts will differ between publishers. If you have further questions about contracts contact The Songwriter's Guild Of America they offer a contract review service and can be a big help in helping you to understand what a fair contract is and learning more about the music business. =0D SINGLE SONG CONTRACTS! Probably the most common type of contract you will encounter at first will be the single song contract. A music publisher offers you this type of contract when he wants to sign one or more of your songs, but he dosen't want to hire you as a staff writer. This type of agreement rarely includes more than two or three songs. You assign your rights to a particular song to the publisher for an agreed-upon number of years. =0D The Songwriter's Guide Of America (SGA) has drawn up A Popular Songwriter's Contrct that it believes to be the best minimum songwriter contract available. If you want to see a sample of the contract The Guild will send you a copy at no charge if you send a self-addressed stamped envelope with your request. Their address is: =0D The Songwriters Guild Of America Suite 317 6430 Sunset Blvd Hollywood, CA 90028 (213) 462-1108 =0D Any publishing contract you sign should have the following terms. =0D 1. WRITERS CREDIT. The publisher should make sure that you receive proper credit on all uses of the composition. =0D 2. WORK FOR HIRE. When you receive a contract covering just one composition you should make sure that the phrases "employment for hire" and "exclusive writer aggreement" are not included. Also, there should be no options for future songs. =0D 3. ARBITRATION. In order to avoid large legal fees in case of a dispute with your publisher, the contract should include an arbitration clause. =0D 4. REVERSION CLAUSE. The contract should also include a provision that the publisher does not secure a release of a commercial sound recording within a specified time (one year two years, etc.) The contract can be terminated by you. =0D 5. PERFORMING RIGHTS AFFILIATION. If you previously signed publishing contracts, you should be affiliated with either ASCAP, BMI or SESAC. All performance royalties must be recieved directly by you from your performing rights organization and this should be written into your song contract. =0D 6. ROYALTY PROVISIONS. Basically, you should receive fifty percent of all publisher's income on all licenses issued. If the publisher prints and sells his own sheet music and folios, your royalty should be ten percent of the wholesale selling price. The royalty should not be stated in the contract as a flat rate. =0D 7. NEGOTIABLE DEDUCTIONS. demos and all other expenses of publications should be paid 100% by the publisher. The only allowable fee is for the Harry Fox Agency collection fee, whereby the writer pays one half of the amount charged to the publisher. Today's rate charged by the Harry Fox Agency is 4.5%. =0D 8. ROYALTY STATEMENT AND AUDIT PROVISION. Once the song is recorded and printed, you are entitled to receive royalty statements at least once every six months. In addition, an audit provision with no time restriction should be included in every contract. =0D 9. CHANGES IN THE COMPOSITION. If the contract includes a provision that the publisher can change the title, lyrics or music, this should be amended so that only with your previous consent can such changes be made. =0D 10. FUTURE USES. Any use not specifically covered by the contract should be retained by the writer to be negotiated as it comes up. =0D INVESTIGATE THE PUBLISHER BEFORE SIGNING. Before you sign a contract with any publisher, you should try to learn as much about him as possible. Some questions the writer should seek answers to are: Does the publisher actively go out and obtain recordings? Has he published any hits? What kind of catalog does he have? What kind of reputation does he have? Is he involved in any lawsuits? Whom else has he published? Signing with a publisher who is unable or unwilling to exploit your song is worse than not signing at all. =0D MECHANICAL RIGHTS. A Mechanical Right is the right of a copyright owner to profit from the mechanical reproduction of his songs. Mechanical reproduction of a song includes use of the copyright in records, tapes, CD, electrical transcriptions and audio tapes for broadcast and background music purposes. The money collected from use of the copyright with regard to these sources is called mechanical royalties. Similar to the agencies which collect performance royalties are those reffered to as mechanical rights organizations. =0D Mechanical rights organizations license record and tape companies on behalf of their affiliated copyright owners to use their copyrights. The mechanical rights organizations collect all royalties earned by their affiliates and after deducting their service charge pay the balance of such earnings to these publishers. The publishers in turn pay the songwriter his share of this income. Mechanical rights organizations also regularly audit record companies books to make sure publishers are paid fairly. =0D Mechanical rights organization also collect synchronization fees if requested by their publisher members. The synchronization fee is used for use of the song (copyright) in time-relation to the motion picture or video tape. =0D Mechanical Rights Organizations are actively involved, along with record companies and music publishers, in finding and prosecuting individuals who engage in the illegal duplication of records and tapes. =0D The oldest and largest of all the mechanical rights organizations in the United States is The Harry Fox Agency 110 East 59th St New York, NY 10022 This agency charges a small percentage of the mechanical royalties music publishers earn for their collection services. The Harry Fox Agency also represent publishers for the use of their compositions in motion pictures synchronization, television, films, and video tapes. They also make sure their publisher affiliates are paid fairly by regularly conducting audits of all record manufactures they collect royalties from. For more information on the services provided by the Harry Fox Agency write them a letter. =0D SONGWRITING ORGANIZATIONS! Here is a list of different organizations for songwriters. Joining or taking part in these type of organizations are great for learning more about songwriting, the business of music, and for teaming up with different writers. =0D NETWORK OF LYRICISTS & SONGWRITERS, INC. P.O. Box 890425 Houston, TX 77289-0425 (713) 264-4330 =0D NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SONGWRITERS. Suite 780 6381 Hollywood Blvd Hollywood, CA 90028 (213) 463-7178 =0D COUNTRY MUSIC SHOWCASE INTERNATIONAL. Box 368 Carlisle, IA 50047 =0D THE LOS ANGELES SONGWRITERS SHOWCASE. Box 93759 Hollywood, CA 90093 (213) 467-7823 =0D SONGWRITERS GUILD OF AMERICA Suite 317 6430 Sunset Blvd Hollywood, CA 90028 (213) 462-1108 =0D WRITING JINGLES! ANOTHER MARKET FOR SONGWRITER'S! A market overlooked by a lot of writer's is the jingle market. The basic skills needed to successfully market your ad jingles are a combination of music writing skillls and a understanding of the medium you will be dealing with. First of all ads cost a lot of money for the client. Because airtime is critical, an ad must work well in order for the client to be satisfied. Usually an ad must generate sales. =0D A client may want to gain name recognition for a service or a person or a product or service from everyone else's similar product or service. Therefore their ad will link that product or service with a desirable image or provide information for prospective customers. It is important that you understand which strategy your client has in mind. Your music must then reflect that strategy both in content and in style. You probably wouldn't use a heavy metal track for a baby food commercial. =0D Second you will need to start thinking = of complete musical songs as either 30 or 60 seconds long. This is the typical length of a commercial and the soundtrack must take that form. = Believe it or not many radio ads are even shorter. The challenge = is to fully develop a song in 30 seconds. It must have a beginning, middle, and finale. =0D I have found it very helpful to practice this short format by taking my own songs and boiling them down to their most basic ingredients. I take out every measure and note which does not add something to the central idea. This has not only helped me learn to learn the jingle format but it also has improved my standard songwriting technique. I strongly urge you to try this out on your own material. =0D Okay so we have honed our writing skills and can produce well crafted songs in the 30 to 60 second format. Now Lets look more closely at the people you are about to become involved with in this business. Like any business there is a technology and a system unique unto the advertising jingle market. Not every agency does business in the same way but in general they all follow a basic pattern. =0D An ad agency is divided into three basic organizations. If the agency is very small they may not actually have people separated by department but must still do the work involved. The organizations are: Sales: People who go out and get clients for the agency: Business Operations: The people who buy air time from TV and Radio, do the day to day bookeping, invoicing, and payroll,etc. and the Creative Department: People who write the copy, draw the pictures, pick or write the music, decide where, when and to whom the ad should be played or shown. =0D When you do business with an ad agency as a songwriter you will deal with both the creative and business organizations. Because of the nature of advertising generally the creative department runs the business. These are the people you want to know and want to deal with. The business department may send you your check but the creative department will be the one to pick your music and make the decision to either use you or not. You must therefore direct all your sales effort to the creative department people creating their own jingles. We have also included in this issue some hot leads of Ad agencies who are looking for jingles and soundtracks. Check them out! =0D THE MUSIC NEWS LINK Congratulations goes out to Scott Watson from Seattle,WA who just got 3 of his songs placed with Logic Publishing ********************************************* Jenny Pickering from Traverse City, MI won best Pop song in the New Talent Songwriting Contest. Her song "Driftin On Your Love" came in first place with a cash award of $5,000 and a publishing contract with Mighty Music. ************************************************ Columbia Records has launced a new offshoot label called Higher Ground. = ************************************************ Dave Bennsington and Mark Kruckson both have teamed up as collaborators as a result from using = The Songwriter's Tipsheet. ************************************************ Sunshine Records in El Paso Texas will be looking to sign talented singers and bands with original songs in the latin/pop, R&B, and Gospel styles in December 1996 ************************************************ =0D (The following list of names are companies who are currently looking for new material. Before submitting your songs to them please follow these guidelines. It's a good idea to contact the company by phone or letter before submitting your demo package.) =0D 1. Send a clear tape of your best 2-4 Songs. 2. Prepare a professional and attractive looking package. 3. Include a typed cover letter, lyric sheet, and cassette label. 4. Make sure your name, address and phone number are included. 5. Include an SASE with sufficient postage to return all of your items. 6. Keep records of the dates, songs, and companies that you mailed to. =0D MUSIC PUBLISHERS LOOKING FOR MATERIAL! SEPTEMBER 1996 =0D HAL BERNARD MUSIC 2612 Erie Ave P.O. Box 8385 Cincinnati, OH 45208 LOOKING FOR: Rock, R&B, Top 40/Pop ATTN: Stan Hertzman =0D COTTAGE BLUE MUSIC P.O. Box 121626 Nashville, TN 37212 LOOKING FOR: Country, Gospel, Rock/Pop, R&B, Alternative Rock ATTN: Neal James =0D FROZEN INCA MUSIC 1800 Peachtree St Suite 333 Atlanta, GA 30309 (404) 355-5580 LOOKING FOR: R&B, Blues, Rap, Rock ATTN: Michael Rothschild =0D HARMONY STREET MUSIC Box 4107 Kansas City, KS 66104 LOOKING FOR: Country, Gospel, Rockabilly, Pop, R&B, Bluegrass, Rock ATTN: Charlie Beth =0D KEL-CRES PUBLISHING 2525 E 12th St Cheyenne, WY 82001 (307) 638-9894 LOOKING FOR: Country, 50s-60-s, Rockabilly ATTN: Gary Kelley =0D McCARTNEY MUSIC 1610 Division St #103 Nashville, TN 37212 (615) 399-0149 LOOKING FOR: European Style Pop Country, New Age, Instrumentals ATTN: Angie Antonecci =0D NEW SONG MUSIC 37 Bowness Crescent London SW15 3QN England (0181) 546-4590 LOOKING FOR: Pop, Rock, Rap, Dance, Country =0D RECORD COMPANIES CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR SONGS AND NEW RECORDING ACTS. (SEPTEMBER 1996) =0D FEARLESS RECORDS P.O. Box 11111 Whittier, CA 90603-0111 (310) 946-9766 LOOKING FOR: Country, Pop, R&B, Rock, Rap =0D GREEN BEAR RECORDS Rockin Chair Center Suite 103 1033 W. Music Highway 76 Branson, MO 65616 LOOKING FOR: Polkas, Waltzes, = Country, Gospel, MOR Light Rock. =0D HEAVY METAL RECORDS 152 Goldthorn Hill Penn Wolverhampton, WV23VA England 44-(0902)345345 LOOKING FOR: Heavy Metal, AOR/FM Rock, =0D MIRROR RECORDS 645 Titus Ave Rochester, NY 14617 (716) 544-3500 LOOKING FOR: Folk, Progressive, Rock, Rap, R&B, Blues ATTN: Armand Schaubroeck =0D WESTWORLD RECORD CO 1726 Seymour Cincinnati, Ohio 45237 (513) 541-5074 LOOKING FOR: Rock, Blues, Pop, = Reggae, Rap, Jazz, Country =0D AD AGENCIES LOOKING FOR MATERIAL =0D RON BERNS & ASSOCIATES 520 N. Michigan Ave Chicago, ILL 60611 (312) 321-8318 LOOKING FOR: All Styles For Jingles =0D DISK PRODUCTIONS 1100 Perkins Rd Baton Rouge, LA 70802 (504) 343-5438 LOOKING FOR: All types of music for jingles, music beds for TV and radio. =0D MCCAFFREY AND MCCALL ADVERTISING 117 E. Washington Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 686-7800 ATTN: William Mick LOOKING FOR: High energy pop and electronics for commercials. =0D SUBSCRIBE NOW TO THE SONGWRITER'S TIPSHEET AND GET YOUR SONGS TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS! = = THE NO 1 INDUSTRY RESOURCE FOR SONGWRITER'S =0D Dear Songwriter, =0D If you,re serious about getting your songs to the right = people in the music business you need to subscribe to the Songwriter's Tipsheet. It's the only professional = publication to help songwriter's get their songs = published and recorded. =0D The songwriter's tipsheet is used by thousands of songwriter's around the world. 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If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:42:00 -0800 From: Peter_Mueller@ucsdlibrary.ucsd.edu Subject: Re[2]: EPS: SIMMS for ASR-10 They are in San Diego. the phone number is (619) 268-4774 Their prices are VERY good. (no. I don't work for them) - -Peter I've had good success dealing with The Chip Merchant. I believe they are in the L.A. area. If you can't find the number let me know and I'll try and dig it out. I bought 8 megs of memory from them about 6 months ago. I think Rubber Chicken also sells memory. Jason ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #7 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:55 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n008' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #8 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, January 8 1997 Volume 03 : Number 008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 08:12:29 -0500 From: ed Subject: [Fwd: Re: EPS: SIMMS for ASR-10] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------5AF8198C3128 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, TCM is an excellent company- I've always had good luck with them. Can anyone tell me what SIMM config that I could order from them would work in my EPS 16+R? Cheers, z - --------------5AF8198C3128 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from oak.oakland.edu (oak.oakland.edu [198.111.3.158]) by bbs.mpcs.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/MPCS) with ESMTP id TAA16693 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:39:45 -0500 Received: (from listserv@localhost) by oak.oakland.edu (8.8.4/8.7.4-jdm) id TAA28018 for eps-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ucsd.edu (ucsd.edu [132.239.254.201]) by oak.oakland.edu (8.8.4/8.7.4-jdm) with ESMTP id TAA28382 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:01:16 -0500 (EST) From: Peter_Mueller@ucsdlibrary.ucsd.edu Received: by mail.ucsd.edu; id QAA27271 sendmail 8.8.3/UCSD8.2.2 via CCMail Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by ucsd.edu from UCSDLIBRARY.UCSD.EDU id with CCTORFC Wed Jan 8 00:01:00 1997 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:42:00 -0800 To: jloeb@sdcc3.ucsd.edu, eps@oak.oakland.edu, jkeeler@dlcwest.com Subject: Re[2]: EPS: SIMMS for ASR-10 Sender: owner-eps@oak.oakland.edu Precedence: bulk They are in San Diego. the phone number is (619) 268-4774 Their prices are VERY good. (no. I don't work for them) - -Peter I've had good success dealing with The Chip Merchant. I believe they are in the L.A. area. If you can't find the number let me know and I'll try and dig it out. I bought 8 megs of memory from them about 6 months ago. I think Rubber Chicken also sells memory. Jason ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps - --------------5AF8198C3128-- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:45:31 -0500 From: davin@usa1.com (Davin C. Flateau) Subject: EPS: WANTED: ASR-10 SCSI kit Wanted to purchase: ASR-10 SCSI Kit, new or used. EMail davin@usa1.com with any details. Thanks! Davin Davin C. Flateau - davin@usa1.com http://www1.usa1.com/~davin/ http://www.laserfantasy.com/pltm/ - ----------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:35:22 -0800 From: dhanley@anv.net (Doug Hanley) Subject: EPS: TSD-300 help request I bought a used TS-12. (That combined with EPSm, stEPS, and PEAK blows the pants off of my EPS Classic it is replacing) The original owner neglected to send along the TSD-300 disk... If there is a TS-10/12 user able to make an .EDT for me of this disk? The one at Mariani's site & Ensoniq's site are both fragmented, EPSm, TSdrop and the like choke on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Doug Hanley *Worship is the correct response to the presence of God*| |dhanley@anv.net http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/ | |Fresh Song Music http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/freshsong/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #8 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:55 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n009' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #9 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, January 9 1997 Volume 03 : Number 009 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 08 Jan 97 23:50:37 EST From: "Ronald S. Pettis" <75557.2333@compuserve.com> Subject: EPS: eps MIDI implementation Where could I find a complete list of MIDI codes (SYSex, etc) for the EPS Classic in electronic form? Could somebody possibly email such an animal to me? TIA. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 23:49:25 -0800 From: emilyl@erols.com Subject: EPS:Help with SAMPLEVISION Just got SAMPLEVISION - have a major problem. The instant I start the program, before anything else appears, I get an "Error Loading Sampler Drivers". Then, when in the program, when I try to set the driver to EPS.DLL, I get a generic error and hence cannot upload download anything to my ASR, which is primarily why I got Samplevision to begin with . . . Any ideas?? PS. this the windows version I'm talkin bout, and I'm running it in Windows 95. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:07:06 -0800 From: James Steele Subject: EPS: The Chip Merchant has a web site Hi all, Lots of folks mentioned The Chip Merchant in San Diego for RAM. I've live in San Diego and have bought all my RAM from them. Awesome prices!!! Because we're all computer-saavy folks here, I thought it might be helpful to let you know they have a web site at: http://www.thechipmerchant.com They have prices and all sorts of info there. Cheers, James Steele - ---------------------------------------------- Q Systems, San Diego, California: http://sd.znet.com/~qsystems Webmaster, Motu-Mac Website: http://sd.znet.com/~qsystems/motumac/ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 01:23:42 -0800 From: jcuervo@pacbell.net Subject: EPS: interleave setting for 16+ I have a syquest ezflyer230 hooked to the scsi port of my EPS16+. Does anyone know what to set the interleave to when formating a 230mb cartridge? Does it go be size or does something else determinte this setting? Hope this isn't to tough of a question for this group. Thanks for the help anyone. JCuervo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:20:38 +0100 From: Kent Hedman Subject: EPS: Waveboy FX Hi! Is there anyone out there who's intrested in selling me / copying the Waveboy FX disks for EPS16+ for a reduced price? They don't have 'em at my local store and I don't wan't to order them without hearing them first. You who have them do you use them and for what? The most interesting effect is probably the FM disk, the other one's seems funny but are they usable? Opinions please! Also looking for a good price on SCSI interface kit for EPS16+ Greetings Kent Hedman, Sweden ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:23:12 -0800 From: Mattias Engstr=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F6?=m Subject: EPS: WaveBoy, anybody got the WaveBoy Resonant filter? I'm looking for reviews of the WaveBoy rez-filter disk. I have only heard rumours so far. I'm heavily into trance/techno, and looking to expand my 16+ and ASR more in the realm of squeeking. Does it go all the way into self-oscillation. Are the envelopes fast enough for making BassDrums? I have the parallallel FX disk and the Voder, but I find them totally useless (moreso the Voder..). Is the Rez worth the money? Regards, Mattias ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 11:35:59 -0500 From: David Steigerwald Subject: Re: EPS: Waveboy FX Kent Hedman wrote: You who have them do you use them and for what? The most > interesting effect is probably the FM disk, the other one's seems funny > but are they usable? Opinions please! Well, the general opinion is about 360 degrees from your impressions. The Resonant filter is the big ht, with the FM features on that disk being a novelty. The Audio-In disk is the one I use most, but that would probably not be true for those with a separate effect box. The Transwave disk has gotten alot of really good press, designed for making your EPS more like an analog synth, but I don't have it so can't really comment. The vocoder and the demolition disks could perhaps be catagorized as "funny", but I suspect for those really looking for unique sounds they are great. The bottom line is these disks are produced by the effects master at Ensoniq, and he just follows his instincts off duty and produces the stuff that his bosses think are too weird to produce commercially. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 08:10:23 -0800 From: DAVE CLINCH Subject: EPS: TS12 - SCSI KIT I WOULD LIKE TO BUY A SCSI KIT FOR THE TS-12. THANKS, DAVE ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 19:36:28 -0800 From: Mattias Engstr=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F6?=m Subject: EPS: ASR10 StereoSample Bug I think I've written about this bug before, but I don't think I got any answer then about where and if theres a cure. Problem: ASR10 Mixes up wavesample-ranges/pitch settings when dealing with multiple stereowaves on one instrument. Question: Is this fixed in the V3.53 OS? /mattias ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:09:05 +0100 From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Subject: Re: EPS: ASR10 StereoSample Bug Mattias wrote.. >I think I've written about this bug before, but I don't think I >got any answer then about where and if theres a cure. > >Problem: ASR10 Mixes up wavesample-ranges/pitch settings when dealing >with multiple stereowaves on one instrument. > >Question: Is this fixed in the V3.53 OS? > I may give meaningless answer because I don't know specifically which bug you refer to and not which OS you are using. It can be inconvenient to work with stereo samples. There are a few things to keep in mind which may let you get the job done even if it is inconvenient. For many editing operations, you should turn the stereo link off. But not all. When you need to edit the keyboard range you should turn the stereo link off, and adjust the ranges for both samples separately and giving them the same range. First then turn the link back on. This often require that you know how your instrument is built up - which wave samples are the matching pairs, which layers do thy recide in and so forth. Also when copying wave samples, you should copy the wave samples separately. This applies to 3.53 afaik. Some previous bugs connected to stereo samples have been fixed. I don't remember anything about pitch settings. Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:08:59 +0100 From: "Kai Niggemann (Canine)" Subject: Re: EPS: TSD-300 help request At 16:35 Uhr -0800 on 08.01.1997 Doug Hanley wrote: >I bought a used TS-12. (That combined with EPSm, stEPS, and PEAK blows the >pants off of my EPS Classic it is replacing) Question: What is PEAK? Canine - -- __________________________________________________________________________ FHD\SOA\71K9\A9IS\THE\OWLS\ARE\NOT\WHAT\THEY\SEEM\2199\SDFK\SKD\SD\CANINE\ Kai Niggemann fon: +49 - 251 - 661833 johanniterstr 17.48145 muenster. phax: +49 - 251 - 661852 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 17:00:47 -0600 From: James Olsen Subject: EPS: Garth / Rubber Chicken Software Hello, everyone. I'm sorry if this a bit off-topic, but has anyone heard from Garth lately? I've been trying to get ahold of him without sucesses. I'm getting a bit worried things might not be going well for him since we used to keep in regular contact. I most anxious to hear from him how the Reed and Oakland archive conversions are going. We'd like to get the public-domain/shareware sounds on SoundCentral as soon as possible. Thanks for listening, I hope someone can find Garth and see if he's okay. - --James james@dpc.net http://www.dpc.net/~james/index.html DPConsultants, Inc. - School Administration, Fund Accounting, Cost Management, and Utility Billing Software http://www.dpc.net/index.html Webmaster of SoundCentral http://www.soundcentral.com/index.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:12:52 -0800 From: Mattias Engstr=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F6?=m Subject: EPS: EPS16+ W. ZIP-drive Sorry for bringing this up. I was reading tons about it half a year ago, but I have forgotten about it since I wasn't interested in it then... Question: Under which circumstances can I use an IOMEGA ZIP with my EPS16+ SCSI module? (I just ordered a SCSI-interface for it and I already have a ZIP- drive) Any pointers to someone who knows would do fine, so we can keep this topic of the list... Regards, Mattias Engstrom y92maten@isy.liu.se ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:06:59 -0800 From: dhanley@anv.net (Doug Hanley) Subject: EPS: Checking Software Version of Your Board... Steve was asking about this... ************************************ Why Check the Version Number? ENSONIQ supports its older products with software (and sometimes hardware) updates. Software updates usually include bug fixes and may also include new features. It's important to have the most current operating system. First of all, though, you might like to check our Current Operating System List. ASR Series / EPS / EPS-16 PLUS The software is disk-based; the version is listed on your diskette. The EPROM version can be checked as below: 1.Press and hold (COMMAND) 2.Press (ENV1), then release both buttons 3.Display = NO COMMANDS ON PAGE 4.Scroll until display = SOFTWARE INFORMATION 5.Press (ENTER/YES) 6.Display = RAM VERSION = X.XX 7.Press (ENTER/YES) 8.Display = ROM VERSION = X.XX 9.Press (ENTER/YES) 10.Display = KEYBOARD VERSION = X.XX TS Series 1.Press and hold (PRESETS) 2.Press the (SYSTEM) button 3.Display = SOFTWARE - ROM=X.XX KPC=X.XX 4.Release both buttons from http://www.ensoniq.com/mid/0002.htm +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Doug Hanley *Worship is the correct response to the presence of God*| |dhanley@anv.net http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/ | |Fresh Song Music http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/freshsong/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:17:09 -0500 From: "Michael Eringis" Subject: EPS: Software, Shmoftware... Hey All, Speaking of software versions... Does anybody have the inside scoop of wheather or not Ensonic is ever going to release a newer version of the ASR's operating system? (post 3.53) It seems they were pretty gung-ho about it for a while. The last few versions were major. (disk recording, DAT backup, etc.) But how long has it been now? 2 years? It's pretty obvious they've given up on the poor little box... Sad, 'cuz it seems like there may have been alot more possible. I can certainly think of quite a list of potential fixes for a new version. (i'm sure we all could) And what about those FX algorythms? We've talked about this before. It's seems like it would be pretty damn easy to come up with a few more. Maybe some crazy ones... Garth? Waveboy? Anybody?... And if they're not working on supporting any of their old machines, then just what _have_ those guys in Malvern been doing lately? For our sake, I hope it's an ASR-1000. :) P.S. And what is PARIS? Check out http://www.ensoniq.com/mid/parist.htm - -michael eringis R/GA digital studios eringis@rga.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #9 *********************** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:56 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n010' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #10 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, January 10 1997 Volume 03 : Number 010 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:02:41 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: EPS: RCS is here At 05:00 PM 1/9/97 -0600, you wrote: >I'm sorry if this a bit off-topic, but has anyone heard from Garth lately? >I've been trying to get ahold of him without sucesses. I'm dying in Minnesota!!!! No seriously, my ISP server has been OK, and I've been getting mail. Anybody else having problems reaching us? This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:02:44 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re: EPS: Software, Shmoftware... At 08:17 PM 1/9/97 -0500, you wrote: >Speaking of software versions... Does anybody have the inside scoop of >wheather or not Ensonic is ever going to release a newer version of the ASR's >operating system? (post 3.53) It seems they were pretty gung-ho about it for a I sure would like to see a new OS that fixed some of the sys-ex bugs. >new version. (i'm sure we all could) And what about those FX algorythms? > We've talked about this before. It's seems like it would be pretty damn easy >to come up with a few more. Maybe some crazy ones... Garth? Waveboy? >Anybody?... I really believe there is more road to travel concerning FX algorithms. Unfortunately, Prosoniq stoppped short in their quest. >while. The last few versions were major. (disk recording, DAT backup, etc.) > But how long has it been now? 2 years? It's pretty obvious they've given up >on the poor little box... Sad, 'cuz it seems like there may have been alot >more possible. I can certainly think of quite a list of potential fixes for a >And if they're not working on supporting any of their old machines, >then just what _have_ those guys in Malvern been doing lately? For our sake, I >hope it's an ASR-1000. :) >P.S. And what is PARIS? Check out http://www.ensoniq.com/mid/parist.htm Boy I hope it's a new sampler. But then again, there have been advertisements about the ASR in Keyboard and EM. Each ad costs $$, so, although I don't understand it because the ASR is OLD, Ensoniq is supporting it, sort of. But I hope Paris is the sampler we all want, with the multiple FX's and faster CPU and 16 MIDI access. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:21:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan "Jj" Kidder Subject: Re: EPS: Software, Shmoftware... > Boy I hope it's a new sampler. But then again, there have been > advertisements about the ASR in Keyboard and EM. Each ad costs $$, so, > although I don't understand it because the ASR is OLD, Ensoniq is > supporting it, sort of. > > But I hope Paris is the sampler we all want, with the multiple FX's and > faster CPU and 16 MIDI access. I kinda doubt it. As you said, they've been advertising the ASR-10 for awhile, and we haven't even had a major revision on the platform. Remember that Ensoniq likes to keep a consistent product line; hence EPS, EPS-16 and EPS-16+. There'll be an ASR variant for a while to come, I think. -Jj / tree@acm.cs.umn.edu "Dot seeg?! Vee don't need to show you no steenkin' dot seeg!" ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:20:22 -0800 From: dhanley@anv.net (Doug Hanley) Subject: EPS: What is ensoniq doing..... At 11:01 PM 1/9/97, eps-digest wrote: > And if they're not working on supporting any of their old machines, >then just what _have_ those guys in Malvern been doing lately? For our sake, I >hope it's an ASR-1000. :) Check out their web pages for a big hint... P A R I S r u e n y o d c t s i o e t o r g e d r m i a n t g e d In a few days they will announce their version of the the ADAT/DA-88/VS-880/Emu DARWIN/ Etc.... whatever... You can just make out the acronymn from the edited photo. They plan on supporting the MR series for awhile as well. (This from the district rep, who used to work at *the* local store.) +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Doug Hanley *Worship is the correct response to the presence of God*| |dhanley@anv.net http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/ | |Fresh Song Music http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/freshsong/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:42:15 +0100 From: yseulys@filnet.fr (yseulys) Subject: Re: EPS: Waveboy FX >Hi! > >Is there anyone out there who's intrested in selling me / copying the >Waveboy FX disks for EPS16+ for a reduced price? They don't have 'em at >my local store and I don't wan't to order them without hearing them >first. You who have them do you use them and for what? The most >interesting effect is probably the FM disk, the other one's seems funny >but are they usable? Opinions please! >Greetings >Kent Hedman, Sweden Dear Kent, I am globally very satisfied with the WaveBoy's very clever, funny, and unique FX. I first bought the resonant filter Disk, then the Voder, Transwaves, and I just received yesterday the Sonic Demolition. Sounds like I buy each new WB product, but really, I think they are worth. I wouldn't that I use them all the time in all productions, but sometimes it's just the kind of "never-heard-elsewhere" type of sound that inspires you and gets you out of the ordinary casual things. I like the Voder very much, because it doesn't sound like any vocoder in the world (in fact it doesn't sound like a vocoder at all, more like a strange mouth filter). It's fully programmable, and good results can be obtained by changing filtering rythmically. The resonant filter is also quite good (Warning! it's a MONO filter!) if you are looking for some analog synth FX, but don't expect changing your sampler into a DX7 with the FM effect! WaveBoy's FM can be OK just for some metallic, ring-mod type sounds or special distortion. Speaking of distortion, the Sonic Demolition Disk is real fun, especially the "Grain" effect, again a very unique & still unheard thing from outter space. All in all, I think that WaveBoy's disks are wonderful toys for users who like to tweak, hack & warp sounds, I wouldn't recommend them for a straight "load & play" use, since results are mostly unpredictable, depending widely on the settings & the sound source (except for the Transwaves, which sound great at once, although they are VERY inspiring samples sources for programming). Sorry for beeing so long, that was just my (enthousiastic) opinion. Greetings. Michel Risse ("The French Collection") ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:22:13 +0200 From: hararcwf@eexi.gr (Chuck Farmer) Subject: EPS: Re: eps-digest V3 #4 > >Cubase Audio vs. Cakewalk Pro Audio vs. Logic Audio >(I'm stating the Audio versions since it sounds like that's what's I use and like them both. I find I can contol more details in LAM, which is frequently a curse. Cubase seems better for MIDI, and Logic for audio. If I had to choose it would probably be Cubase (though I know LAM better), because I can go directly to SDII and its plugins from within the program, Chuck Farmer Digital Sweet Athens Greece ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 97 10:01:44 EST From: Matt Chinn <70004.4322@compuserve.com> Subject: EPS: Paris I've heard a little bit about this...I think in Keyboard Mag. It's a Pro Audio Recording Integration System (I think)...totally compatible to make audio mastering a snap (especially with Ensoniq equipment). Due out in early Spring. Yet, I too with there was another version of the O.S. for the ASR-10. AND...for those who do not have the 3.53 Operating System manual, I suggest you order it from Ensoniq's 800 number. It contains amazing info to pump the fullest life out of the O.S. and your ASR including how to backup to DAT, AudioTrack tutorials, and descriptions of the extra effect algarithms that come with the full 3.53 O.S. disk (they'll send you that with the manual). When I got my ASR used, I got the 3.53 O.S. disk, but it had been copied and didn't contain the extra 44Khz effects (which are really nice). Mattc ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:25:02 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: Re: EPS: WaveBoy, anybody got the WaveBoy Resonant filter? >Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:23:12 -0800 >From: Mattias Engstr_m >Subject: EPS: WaveBoy, anybody got the WaveBoy Resonant filter? > >I'm looking for reviews of the WaveBoy rez-filter disk. [...] >Does it go all the way into self-oscillation. Not as hard as you would expect a classic anaolg filter to do, but nice enough for many situations. >Are the envelopes fast enough for making BassDrums? There's one dedicated ENV for the ResoFilter; (...let's see - that makes _four_, alltogether :-). It's pretty fast, and what I like even more that the scaling gives real-world numbers like micro-seconds. In addition, you get a seperate S&H-generator as new modulator-source for those typical "agigugogagagagigugeg"-effects ;-) >I have the parallallel FX disk and the Voder, but I find them >totally useless (moreso the Voder..). Is the Rez worth the money? I agree on the Voder (never ever worked on my machine...), but the Reso/FM-disk is definitely a _must_ for every 16+/ASR. Worth every penny, I use it all the time. Be aware that it is a "monophonic" filter, i.e., that you can't have the filter open on one note and close it on another simultanously (... your EPS still is polyphonic, of course ... :-) BTW - if you're in more experimental flavours of D'n'B, you should get the Sonic Demolition-disks from WAVeBOY, too. Great stuff, although one of the algorithms doesn't work on some machines (... mine, for example :-P) And there was another company called Prosoniq selling _very_ good FX for the 16+/ASR years ago (... nowadays, they are in heavy Neural Network-programming for SGI's and PPC's 8-) . Don't know if they are still interested in selling their "FX-Library 001", but anyway: their address is . /// No, I don't want to start the age-old "Prosoniq pirated WAVeBOY"-flamewar again. Hope this helps. Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm [updated 1-1-97] - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:25:05 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: EPS: Hacker alert Hi everybody - for those of you who tried downloading EPS-samples from my little Hompage - my provider has been the victim of some insane 'Net-hacker a week ago. Almost all file-structures of our FTP- and WWW-systems are destroyed, so don't be surprised when you got an Error-message during the last few days. They are working to recover what they can, but don't expect things to be up and running before the weekend. --- You're all kindly invited to come & visit, then ... :-) Dietz / Austrian Sound Library for EPS/ASR Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm [updated 1-1-97] - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:26:38 -0700 (MST) From: ClarkovSaturn Subject: EPS: Speaking of filters Can someone describe what some of the filters are and how exactly to access them with the ASR-10? I know that you access them by pressing "Filter" but I've only been able to locate "cutoff" or something like that. are there more with the OS or ROM or whatever?? (I don't have a manual.) ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o Clark ov Saturn, Trucking Mogul; D.D.S, Ph.D., M.D., B.A., B.S. o o LD-50 noise tamer/singer; Olestra connoisseur; o o Cigar taster Bubble Bath Inspector Toy Tester World Pong Champ o o COME SQUAT WITH ME: o o http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~cjnelson o o the old one works every once in a while http://164.92.26.37/ o ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:50:10 -0500 (EST) From: bugg@marquis.netinc.ca Subject: EPS: Removeable Drives Would anyone recommend buying a Dynatech Jaz Drive? Does anyone have one? Is Iomega a better choice? I heard Iomega isn't as good. Any suggestions? Thanks Bugg "If all else fails, use the open eye." - - Chonky Orkin Boggles ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:22:39 -0700 (MST) From: ClarkovSaturn Subject: Re: EPS: Removeable Drives/Jaz On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 bugg@marquis.netinc.ca wrote: > Would anyone recommend buying a Dynatech Jaz Drive? Does anyone > have one? Is Iomega a better choice? I heard Iomega isn't as good. > Any suggestions? Is it true that Jaz disks can only be formatted to 600 megs by the ASR10? I'd like someone to state this from experience, I heard it from somewhere. Any other considerations between the Zip and Jaz ASIDE from the obvious major difference in storage capacity? ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o Clark ov Saturn, Trucking Mogul; D.D.S, Ph.D., M.D., B.A., B.S. o o LD-50 noise tamer/singer; Olestra connoisseur; o o Cigar taster Bubble Bath Inspector Toy Tester World Pong Champ o o COME SQUAT WITH ME: o o http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~cjnelson o o the old one works every once in a while http://164.92.26.37/ o ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:19:01 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: EPS: using .efe files Is there any way to put .efe files on a floppy besides edm? I just sent a friend some .efe's and he only has the shareware version which reads the disk images only. Can epsdisk be used to write a .efe to a floppy? if so, what are the exact steps required to do so? Thanks in advance, Todd ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:54:44 -0800 From: jcuervo@pacbell.net Subject: EPS: Eps16+ Interleave Setting I have a syquest ezflyer230 hooked to the scsi port of my EPS16+. Does anyone know what to set the interleave to when formating a 230mb cartridge? Does it go be size or does something else determinte this setting? Thanks for the help anyone. JCuervo ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #10 ************************ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:57 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n011' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest Subject: eps-digest V3 #11 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Saturday, January 11 1997 Volume 03 : Number 011 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:28:37 -0500 (EST) From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: Re: EPS: using .efe files In a message dated 97-01-10 23:19:14 EST, Todd wrote: > Is there any way to put .efe files on a floppy besides edm? > I just sent a friend some .efe's and he only has the shareware > version which reads the disk images only. Send your friend a disk image (*.EDE) instead of individual files. Your friend can use EDE (shareware) to re-create the diskette containing the files. Gary Giebler ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:28:35 -0500 (EST) From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: Re: EPS: Removeable Drives/Jaz In a message dated 97-01-10 23:19:14 EST, cjnelson wrote: > Is it true that Jaz disks can only be formatted to 600 megs by the ASR10? > I'd like someone to state this from experience, I heard it from somewhere. This is not true. If a particular Jaz drive CAN be formatted for the ASR, it will format for the entire capacity of the Jaz cartridge. HOWEVER, the most recent releases of the Jaz drive can't be formatted or written to by the ASR. This is due to a change in firmware that IOMega made. IOMega is currently trying to correct the situation, and unfortunately, it is impossible to tell from serial numbers if a drive has this problem. I would have to suggest waiting until this situation is cleared up, or make sure the drive you buy can be returned if it doesn't work with the ASR. Gary Giebler ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:25:22 -0500 From: Michael Hyman Subject: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. At 12:02 AM 1/10/97 -0500, "Rubber Chicken Software Co." wrote: > >I really believe there is more road to travel concerning FX algorithms. >Unfortunately, Prosoniq stoppped short in their quest. You mean that Prosoniq stopped short in their software piracy activities. All of the Prosoniq audio effects were stolen from Waveboy or Ensoniq. All of them. This really is not questionable, and can be demonstrated through relevant byte comparisons of *every* Prosoniq audio effect file. I've had some recent e-mail conversations with Stefan Sprenger (Mr. Prosoniq), and he does not deny the accusations. He also no longer sells any Prosoniq ASR/EPS effects. (Guess why.) I also know that he would be quite embarrassed if the truth were actually brought forth in a more public forum than this maillist. It's one thing to be a young basement computer hacker modifying text strings and reselling a few copies of other's effects as your own, but it starts getting serious when you go on to become a legitimate company with legitimate products. I wonder how Mr. Sprenger would feel if someone were to copy his SoniqWorx software for the Mac, change a few text strings, remove the legitimate copyright notices, and resell it? I also find it rather strange that a software company like Rubber Chicken would be promoting or endorsing such illegal and unethical behavior as Prosoniq has engaged in. What is it with you, Garth? You should know that Prosoniq was copying Waveboy files after reading through all the files I sent you in 1995. People work hard to create software, and you don't seem to give a damn about the piracy issue. I, for one, find it very hard to have any respect for Rubber Chicken with this sort of attitude. The bottom line is that Prosoniq ripped off Waveboy, violated US and international copyright laws, and should not be endorsed or promoted. It's somewhat academic at this point, since they're not selling their ASR/EPS effects disks, but the truth should be known. Software piracy and unauthorized copying and redistribution of copyrighted computer files is stealing. FWIW, if anyone wants the proof and file comparisons I posted to this maillist in 1995, write me privately and I'll send you the long technical description and other supporting files I put together back then. Dietmar Tinhof writes: > /// No, I don't want to start the age-old "Prosoniq >pirated WAVeBOY"-flamewar again. I am not interested in any flamewars either - I only care about the facts and the truth in this situation. - -- Mike mikeh@op.net ENSONIQ Resources on the Internet: http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ensoniq.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 04:09:51 -0800 From: DAVE CLINCH Subject: EPS: ts12: wanted scsi kit hello, want scsi kit for ts12? hello? scsi kit for ts12 want? hello ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:19:26 -0500 (EST) From: MC Squared Subject: EPS: Cakewalk Pro Audio & ASR10 Hello all. I'm using Cakewalk Pro Audio to do digital recording, and I'm quite a newbie at this. I'm having trouble with the ASR, though. I'm using SMPTE to synch up the tracks and everything goes smoothly except evey time a certain sequence on a certain song of mine comes up the ASR freaks out and needs to reboot. Other songs and sequences don't do this, and the ASR itself only freaks out when this sequence is played via MIDI external clock. Anybody have an idea what's going on? - ---------------------------------------------------- David Munger - ---------------------------------------------------- email: dmunger@sun1.iusb.edu irc: MCSquared www: http://sun1.iusb.edu/~dmunger ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 20:36:35 +-100 From: Tom Space Subject: EPS: ASR Reboot Are there any activities on EPS List ? I just joined. Hy everybody on list ! I have a booting problem with my ASR 10. I use an old fasioned 300M = hard disk so it has a relatively long *spin-up* time. So when I turn on the HD, I have to wait about 10 sec then I can power = on ASR. The problem is when I switch on ASR, the HD often goes out of = order. (Probably when I can not catch a zero crossing) My question is : Is there any method to reboot ASR without switching it = off (Ctrl-Alt-Del ) or can I delay 'searching scsi devices' procedure ? ASR 10 keyboard w/ no S/pdif Many thanx. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:36:35 +0100 From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Subject: Re: EPS: Removeable Drives/Jaz Clark.J Nelson wrote.. >Is it true that Jaz disks can only be formatted to 600 megs by the ASR10? >I'd like someone to state this from experience, I heard it from somewhere. No, it can't be true, but rumours can be hard to stop. I think this rumour was originally set out for the Roland Samplers S760/S770. In that perspective the quoted size limitation is interesting. The max ASR size is probably 8 GB ( 512x2^24 ) and limited by how large blocknumbers a 24 bit pointer can acess. The Ensoniq file system is 10 years old. Still, the limiting size by that system was and is 8 GB ( probably ). 10 years ago that size was close to infinity and a 40 MB hard drive would cost me more than the ASR costs now. If the ASR can format the drive, it will format it to the full capacity. Most times thats what you want. You may want to use a 1 GB cart for a master for a CD-ROM. Then you could format it to something less on your Mac. >Any other considerations between the Zip and Jaz ASIDE from the obvious >major difference in storage capacity? From Gary Gieblers comments you clearly have to try the Jaz to see wether it at all will work with the ASR. There is also another consideration which I think is important and that is how well will a drive work with your computer and how well will it work with your computer _and your ASR on the same chain. I wish Ensoniq also could have taken up that issue. It has benefitted the users that they have investigated drive compatability and a vendor has been contacted to get him/them ( Iomega ) to follow AV specs. I feel it could be beneficial if Ensoniq would work on their own SCSI bootup procedure for the ASR. I guess it should be a relatively small job. 15k$ ? Lets all send them 100$ bills and hope they will do it and don't spend the money on expensive champagne at a fancy establishment in Paris.:-) I am very surprised by that so many seems to want huge hard disks to their ASR. Has anyone gone from a smaller to huge ( >=1 GB ) and has any experience they like to share? For hard drives it is of coarse difficult to find new small ones. Why else do you want it? Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:49:39 +0100 From: terje.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Subject: Re: EPS: ASR Reboot Tom wrote.. >I have a booting problem with my ASR 10. I use an old fasioned 300M = >hard disk so it has a relatively long *spin-up* time. >So when I turn on the HD, I have to wait about 10 sec then I can power = >on ASR. The problem is when I switch on ASR, the HD often goes out of = >order. (Probably when I can not catch a zero crossing) >My question is : Is there any method to reboot ASR without switching it = >off (Ctrl-Alt-Del ) or can I delay 'searching scsi devices' procedure ? I'm not sure if I think that is very useful, but I too feel that too much poweer cycling could put strain on the thing. I don't know, but you could make your ASR crash gracefully, then you only have to press the 'yes' button to reboot.:-) I don't know the easiest way to make it crash, but you asked for a three button aproach. If my sequencer is connected to Midi In, I can Press record on the ASR, a black key on the ASR and then I hit the Panic button in the sequencer and I will be asked if I want to Reboot the sampler. So that is hitting 3 keys or buttons which you asked for :-) In my case the Panic button sends out noteoffs for note number 0 to 127 on all 16 channels as fast as it can, It overflows the Midi In buffer. I hope your sequencer does not have that but for home/studio use you could make a crashing sequence yourself if your computer is Midi connected to the ASR. Ha det Terje ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:57:03 -0800 From: DAVE CLINCH Subject: EPS: ts12 - ? HI, DOES ANYONE HAVE SOME HOME GROWN SAMPLES THAT I COULD TRY ON MY TS-12? MAYBE YOU SAMPLED YOU DOG BARKING WITH YOUR ASR SAMPLER OR SOME SUCH? ALSO: I WOULD LIKE TO BUY A USED SCSI KIT FOR MY TS12. ENSONIQ WANTS $249 FOR A KIT.... I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE, BUT I DO NOT, WILL NOT, PAY THAT MUCH.... ALSO MAYBE SOMEONE HAS INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE SCSI KIT? ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: ellj@accent.net (joshua lebofsky) Subject: EPS: Getting Off I've been a keen observer of this list for 6 months or so. It is very helpful. Alas, vacation time is upon me and I forget how to unsubscribe. Could someone e-mail me with the correct address. Thanks back in 2 weeks Joshua Lebofsky e-mail : ellj@accent.net ###### # # ########### # # # # ### # # # # # # # # ###### ###### ###### # # # # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 19:28:54 -0500 (EST) From: Rocheleau David Eric Subject: Re: EPS: Removeable Drives I have a SYsquest EZ135 and intend never bying a floppy disk again in my whole life. Three of my collegues have one too(has well as ASR10's) and we are all for it. The ez135 is not around anymore, but the fly drive230 has arrived and it reads and writes EZ135 cartriges as well. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #11 ************************ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:58 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n012' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V3 #12 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, January 12 1997 Volume 03 : Number 012 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 20:11:05 -0800 From: Thomas Trent Subject: EPS: Lost sounds and... Hello group, Thanks again to Gary Giebler for the prompt reply on how to set up the EDM;I now have a really slick setup in ms-dos mode in Win95. What I really want is a group of sounds that I lost recently from a car theft. Along with many sounds on disk that I had created myself on the EPS-16 at school, I also had a disk that I think I got from the old EPS archive before it disappeared. I am not sure of the legality of this whole thing, but if anyone knows for sure and has a copy of an EPS-16 disk that contained a number of small sounds including "P600 wahtrans"; "RawPulse"; "Cray"; and several others and could e-mail it to me or tell me where I could locate it, I would be indebted to you. Three of these sounds were part of a piece that I was planning to put on a school concert at the end of next month. One more comment: I recently got the Ensoniq Invision CD of orchestral instruments and am very pleased with just about all of them. The flute sound, however, has an annoying slow vibrato that I can't seem to improve. Is there a flute sound out there that anyone would recommend? I use my TS-12 mostly for playback of scores for acoustic instruments. Thanks and sorry for the long message. Tom Trent ttrent@oregon.uoregon.edu ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jan 97 13:33:35 EST From: Matt Chinn <70004.4322@compuserve.com> Subject: EPS: Any EPS 16+ Keyboards FS? Hello Ensoniq people- My friend is interested in buying an EPS 16+ keyboard, and has about $800 for one. So if anyone knows of one up for sale, let me know! Thanks, Mattc ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:21:29 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: Re: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. [sorry, long] Ok, here we go ... >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:25:22 -0500 >From: Michael Hyman >Subject: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. > >At 12:02 AM 1/10/97 -0500, "Rubber Chicken Software Co." > wrote: >> >>I really believe there is more road to travel concerning FX algorithms. >>Unfortunately, Prosoniq stoppped short in their quest. > >You mean that Prosoniq stopped short in their software piracy activities. >All of the Prosoniq audio effects were stolen from Waveboy or Ensoniq. All >of them. This really is not questionable, and can be demonstrated through >relevant byte comparisons of *every* Prosoniq audio effect file. I've had >some recent e-mail conversations with Stefan Sprenger (Mr. Prosoniq), and he >does not deny the accusations. ... nor did he confess, I suppose ....? Here in Europe, we have a simple, but effective juristic fundamental: "in dubio pro reo" - which means: as long as there is no conviction, nobody is allowed to call anybody guilty. [...] > Software piracy and >unauthorized copying and redistribution of copyrighted computer files is >stealing. Strong words, again without any but your very own evidence (which was questioned more than once, as you know.) >FWIW, if anyone wants the proof and file comparisons I posted to this >maillist in 1995, write me privately and I'll send you the long technical >description and other supporting files I put together back then. > >Dietmar Tinhof writes: >> /// No, I don't want to start the age-old "Prosoniq >>pirated WAVeBOY"-flamewar again. > >I am not interested in any flamewars either - I doubt this, Mike (see below). > I only care about the facts >and the truth in this situation. > >- -- >Mike >mikeh@op.net ENSONIQ Resources on the Internet: >http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ensoniq.html TAH DAH! OK, Mike - the _truth_ is that you're not simply "Mike"; on other occasions, your sig-file looks like this: > ========================================================= > Michael Hyman | Ensoniq Corporation > Software Engineer | 155 Great Valley Parkway > | Malvern, PA 19355 > mikeh@ensoniq.com | voice 610-647-3930 / fax 610-647-8908 > ========================================================= So - without having any connection with any of the concerned parties - for me as _user_ it looks like as you're simply pissed off that someone else showed the ability to re-engineer your holy EPS/ASR-codes, and what's more, that he says publicly that the Ensoniq-OS's are simply bad software. Apparently this could be the true reason why you started calling Rubber Chicken names too, lately - because Garth dared to make statements about some peculiarities of Ensoniq's OS-software. Or is it just that Ensoniq is totally loosing ground - innovation-wise, I mean? However - _your_ credibility isn't better than Sprenger's, from my point of view. You're biased, and even worse: You didn't tell us about this fact. All this makes your "evidences" look pretty weak, all of a sudden. What the heck - all this is pretty meaningless for me as musician. I like Ensoniq-products, Waveboy FX, Prosoniq FX, Rubber Chicken sounds ... you name it. But: What I still can't understand: If you're so _damned_ sure - why don't you simply sue Stephan M. Sprenger, instead of polluting this innocent Mailing-List with your rants? International copyrights should make this an easy task. I proved more than once on this list that I don't tolerate software piracy, but I can't stand what looks like vile gossip, either. Hey - you're software-engineer@ensoniq.com: What about some 'Net spirit? You should really share your knowledge on this list instead of all this! What about those lousy SCSI- and SysEx-implementations of your samplers? What about the omission of Standard Sample Dump? And don't get me wrong - I love those strange instruments; I wouldn't be here, otherwise. Dietz / ASL Dietmar -Dietz- Tinhof Music-SoundEngineering-SoundDesign - --!-T-H-E--M-O-S-T--C-O-L-O-R-F-U-L--P-L-A-C-E--O-N--W-W-W-!-- http://croco.atnet.at/club/dietz/welcome.htm [updated 1-1-97] - ------------------!-P-L-A-Y--I-T--L-O-U-D-!------------------- http://draht.de/bands/st_marx/st_marx.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 97 19:59:39 -0400 From: Scott Peer Subject: Re: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. [sorry, long] >If you're so _damned_ sure - why don't you simply sue Stephan M. Sprenger, >instead of polluting this innocent Mailing-List with your rants? You mean the same innocent list on which earlier this week appeared a not from someone wanting a free or cheap pirated copy of some Waveboy products? pul-leeze. Scott ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:24:01 -0800 From: Emily Lloyd Subject: EPS:Piracy in general Here is what has always been my ideology in terms of pirating: As long as your use of the software product does not affect the corporation that produced it financially, what's the difference? In terms of the waveboy disks, they're relatively cheap, and anyone that pirates them could probably afford to buy them, and is thus doing something that hurts Waveboy as a company. But with a product like, say, 3d studio MAX, well - the average hobbyist can't afford a $3000 3d program, so for that customer to get a pirated copy means that since he/she would not have purchased it anyway, the company that made the program (in this case, Kinetix) is not hurt economically. What's more, their software is gaining a larger user base than would normally be possible. Who loses in this scenario? No one. The only time, in my mind, pirating is wrong is when you can #1.Afford the given program and #2.The company in question would be financially hurt were you and others like you to pirate instead of purchase the program. I am an adamant defender of the arts, and beleive that the more people creating things with more advanced tools the better. In certain situations piracy can actually enable those that would never dream about getting into 3d animation or autoCAD or desktop publishing or whatever, because of the price, to use those programs and get a chance to create something with them. In other, admittedly more common scenarios, like anyone trying to pirate RC EPS Tools software or Waveboy FX disks, the company that made the product is losing a sale and the customer is being a real cheapskate, as the programs mentioned above are priced fairly so that anyone can afford them (you have to have an EPS/ASR first, which is atleast 3 digits and more likely 4, so . . ). This is just an ideology, process as you see fit. Of course I have never pirated anything in my life and would never, but hold this view nonetheless. Damien Thorn ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #12 ************************ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:11:59 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n013' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V3 #13 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, January 13 1997 Volume 03 : Number 013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:10:56 -0500 From: Michael Hyman Subject: Re: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. [sorry, even longer] On 13 Jan 1997 00:21:29 +0100, Dietmar Tinhof writes: >Ok, here we go ... ... here we go flaming, Dietz? >>I've had >>some recent e-mail conversations with Stefan Sprenger (Mr. Prosoniq), and he >>does not deny the accusations. > >... nor did he confess, I suppose ....? No, Stephan Sprenger of Prosoniq didn't admit anything in our private e-mail. What he did write to me privately was fairly meaningless. >Here in Europe, we have a simple, >but effective juristic fundamental: "in dubio pro reo" - which means: as >long as there is no conviction, nobody is allowed to call anybody guilty. I call it as I see it. I would never, under any circumstances, accuse anyone of a crime or of commercial software piracy in writing unless I was 100% sure of what I was talking/writing about. Of course, you've demonstrated that you don't believe anything that I write, so you probably don't believe the last sentence either. But it is true. >> Software piracy and >>unauthorized copying and redistribution of copyrighted computer files is >>stealing. > >Strong words, again without any but your very own evidence (which was >questioned more than once, as you know.) Whose corroborating evidence of Prosoniq's piracy and byte copying do you want? *You* can verify that everything I am claiming is true by using the effects file comparison software which I sent you in private e-mail in 1995. If you lost it or want it again, please ask me for it and I'll send it to you. I went to great lengths (beyond what anyone asked me to do at the time) to make sure that what I posted in 1995 could be verified by third parties if they wanted. I'm sure a few of the old-timers here can attest to that. If you have any concerns or questions or need more information about my proof of Prosoniq piracy, you really should have brought it up in 1995 instead of flaming me now in 1997. In any event, you can post your questions of my proof now, and I will answer *every* question you have about Prosoniq's piracy. I am being completely fair. What more would you want me to do? >>I am not interested in any flamewars either - > >I doubt this, Mike (see below). You are wrong, Dietz. I am not interested in flamewars. >> I only care about the facts >>and the truth in this situation. > >TAH DAH! > >OK, Mike - the _truth_ is that you're not simply "Mike"; on other occasions, >your sig-file looks like this: Yeah, TAH DAH! I guess this makes me a certified expert on the topic, doesn't it? My .sig doesn't say a lot of truthful things about me, but so what? (Read the end of this message for a few of the reasons why I post from op.net) >So - without having any connection with any of the concerned parties - for >me as _user_ it looks like as you're simply pissed off that someone else >showed the ability to re-engineer your holy EPS/ASR-codes, and what's more, >that he says publicly that the Ensoniq-OS's are simply bad software. >Apparently this could be the true reason why you started calling Rubber >Chicken names too, lately - because Garth dared to make statements about >some peculiarities of Ensoniq's OS-software. Like I said, I call it as I see it. And I saw 99% byte copying of Waveboy's effects code in the Prosoniq effects files. Flame me all you like, or make up completely untrue rationalizations why I post messages, but nothing changes this FACT. It's indisputable - Prosoniq illegally copied Waveboy and Ensoniq effects algorithms. No matter what else you write to this maillist, no matter who I am affiliated with, nothing changes this. If you want to question my methods of byte comparison, go right ahead. If you want to question my byte comparison results go ahead. >What the heck - all this is pretty meaningless for me as musician. Apparently not, since you go off ranting and raving and flaming me when the Prosoniq topic comes up on this maillist! Software piracy of music software, and your personal involvement of paying money to a software pirate should not be meaningless to you. I do admit that it is not meaningless for me. I find Prosoniq's acts to be offensive and disturbing, on top of being illegal. I don't want to see them being admired and lauded for their Ensoniq effects disks. They *deserve* to be criticized (or worse) for what turns out to be cleverly disguised stealing. > What I still can't understand: If you're so _damned_ sure - >why don't you simply sue Stephan M. Sprenger, instead of polluting this >innocent Mailing-List with your rants? First off, Prosoniq hasn't done anything to me for me to sue them. They stole effects code from Waveboy and Ensoniq, who are the injured parties in this case. I am not Waveboy, and I am not Ensoniq Corporation. Secondly, I am not just "_damned_ sure", I am 100% sure. I am drop-dead, unquestionably sure. I am risking a personal lawsuit against myself sure. I am so sure that it isn't funny. I don't make this sort of claim often. Thirdly, Prosoniq is no longer selling EPS/ASR effects disks, and hasn't been for a long time. What purpose would a lawsuit serve? Fourth, suing someone in a foreign country is no small or inexpensive feat. There are certain economic realities of bringing a lawsuit, whether it's a domestic lawsuit or a foreign one. Fifth, I am not "polluting" this maillist. I've only posted 2 messages about Prosoniq in the last 16 months to this maillist, which includes this message and the one yesterday. I firmly believe that what I am writing is on-topic and is in the interest of readers of this maillist. At this point, if people want the current discussion taken into private e-mail, I'll be happy to do so. Sixth, I am showing great restraint in my response. Can you do the same, and stop using the attacking, flaming language? >I proved more than once on this list that I don't tolerate software piracy, >but I can't stand what looks like vile gossip, either. It happens to be true, though. Prosoniq pirated Waveboy and Ensoniq effects code. As I wrote in my last message, if anyone wants the proof and file comparisons I posted to this maillist in 1995, write me privately and I'll send you the long technical description and other supporting files I put together back then. >Hey - you're software-engineer@ensoniq.com: What about some 'Net spirit? If you need customer service from Ensoniq, you can easily get it in a number of ways. Ensoniq has an Automatic Fax Retrieval System at (800) 257-1439 or, outside of the US, at (610) 408-0741. The Ensoniq Customer Service voice line is (610) 647-3930. Musical Instrument Customer Service can also be reached through e-mail on the Internet at music-support@ensoniq.com. Ensoniq has a corporate web page with lots of useful information at http://www.ensoniq.com/ Ensoniq's "How to Contact Us" web page is at http://www.ensoniq.com/contact.htm When I post public messages to the Net, I am "Mike" and only represent myself. I post at night from my ISP account, which I pay for myself. I am not pushing the agenda of any company (despite what you think Dietz), and the messages that I post are of *personal* interest to me. I don't do customer service. I am not interested in doing customer service. I am not interested in dozens of strangers sending me private e-mail and asking for things every time I make a public post. > You >should really share your knowledge on this list instead of all this! What is "all this"? The Prosoniq piracy accusations? I am sharing my factual knowledge on this topic. It is vile, isn't it Dietz? But it's not gossip, it's the truth. - -- Mike mikeh@op.net ENSONIQ Resources on the Internet: http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ensoniq.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 07:52:11 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general Emily Lloyd wrote: > Here is what has always been my ideology in terms of pirating: As long > as your use of the software product does not affect the corporation that > produced it financially, what's the difference? This sounds like a justification for pirating (aka stealing) to me. Does this also mean that it is ok to break into the GM plant and take a car, while it would be stealing to take one from a smaller company, say Lexus? Is it wrong to steal from a local shopkeeper while it is ok to steal from a large retailer like WallMart? Sure, stealing from one of 'the big guys' has less impact on their finances, but it is still morally wrong to do so. Does this also mean that the Chineese should not be prosecuted for pirating all the copies of Windows 3.x and Windows 95 they were caught with? As a programmer and a musician, I want the fruits of my labor protected by copyright laws. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:21:23 -0500 (EST) From: MC Squared Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Emily Lloyd wrote: > In terms of the waveboy disks, they're relatively cheap, and anyone that > pirates them could probably afford to buy them, and is thus doing > something that hurts Waveboy as a company. But with a product like, say, > 3d studio MAX, well - the average hobbyist can't afford a $3000 3d > program, so for that customer to get a pirated copy means that since > he/she would not have purchased it anyway, the company that made the > program (in this case, Kinetix) is not hurt economically. What's more, With all due respect, and merely to explore the topic further, I have to ask: is it acceptable for the hungry to steal food? Perhaps it is. Is it acceptable for a poor man to steal tools or materials to make art? Maybe so. It's a tough call, and the importance of the moral dilemna should not be minimized. There are two central characteristics of the software piracy issue that make it more difficult and unique than ethical qeustions about theft of hard goods: - - What is the nature of "intellectual property?" We are dealing strictly in marketed ideas and concepts, not goods that were directly, physically crafted. This adds some confusion to the discussion. - - I think sometimes the entire debate rests too much on the idea that we can do whatever we want, just because it is very easy to pirate software. Also, especially if you only steal the software for personal use, you probably won't be caught or prosecuted. If it were so easy to steal food more people would do it, and then justify it after the fact with a lot of talk about who should get what and what is fair. Suddenly everybody decides that what the developer of the software wants (in terms of distribution) doesn't matter; it is the thief who decides what the agreement should actually be. Among other things, this shows disrespect to the owner of the intellectual property, because you will not approach it on her/his terms. If you really really need the software and there's no way you can afford, why not contact the company and open a dialog? If you say, "There's no way *Ensoniq* or *Microsoft* (or whoever) will give me free stuff!" then maybe you should look for smaller companies, shareware houses, etc., that are interested in opening a dialog with you. Maybe you could negotiate, maybe not. But the easy road is to simply copy and use the stuff, making yourself the sole judge of how it effects everybody. - ---------------------------------------------------- David Munger - ---------------------------------------------------- email: dmunger@sun1.iusb.edu irc: MCSquared www: http://sun1.iusb.edu/~dmunger ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:51:56 -0600 From: "Les Morey" Subject: Re: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. [sorry, even longer] > From: Michael Hyman > To: eps@oak.oakland.edu > Subject: Re: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. [sorry, even longer] > Date: Monday, January 13, 1997 2:10 AM > > On 13 Jan 1997 00:21:29 +0100, Dietmar Tinhof writes: > >Ok, here we go ... We sure did. Things I've learned (or had forgotten) in the past week: 1. Prosoniq plagiarized some/many/most stuff on the disk they were selling from material developed by Ensoniq/Waveboy. That's bad. Trying to SELL someone else's stuff as your own is reprehensible, be it 40% or 100% stolen. They don't sell it anymore. That's good. 2. Dietz didn't steal the algorithms. Garth didn't steal the algorithms. Both of these individuals are active in developing useful things for we members of the Ensoniq sampler family. They are good. 3. There are not very many individuals developing useful things for we members of the Ensoniq sampler family. This includes Ensoniq. That is bad; these machines have more potential that could be tapped. 4. There are individuals out there who have the skills and the interest to work on some of these products, but Ensoniq has not cooperative in relinquishing proprietary control over material for products it has rendered obsolete. This, to me, seems bad, speaking as: the owner of a now unsupported $2000 TS10 that still has three ROM banks (ROM5,6,7) mysteriously vacant; and both an EPS and EPS16+, neither of which have had an OS update in my son's lifetime. 5. Individuals who are interested in developing something new for our group should be encouraged by our group. This may or may not have included Prosoniq, but it certainly includes Garth and Dietz. I would also hope that it would include Mike in his spare time, although his employer might prefer that he spend his work hours on projects with more commercial potential. Les http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1239 ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:05:16 +0100 (NFT) From: Mattias Engstrom Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general Ok... everybody has got something to think about now... but can we go on with the music? I remember half a year ago, there was a hints 'n tips going on for the EPS list. Did anyone make a list of all the tricks? Anybody in for a continued discussion? /Mattias ////////////////////////////////////// my opinion is my opinion is my opin... ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:02:33 +0000 From: "Bob Parkans" Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general > Does this also mean that the Chineese should not be prosecuted for > pirating > all the copies of Windows 3.x and Windows 95 they were caught with? As a > programmer and a musician, I want the fruits of my labor protected by > copyright laws. Funny you should mention that, I was in China proper last summer, and they are STILL selling bootleg CD-ROMs on the streets! Bob parkanrc@wei.mhs.compuserve.com bparkans@neosoft.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:54:57 -0800 From: Emily Lloyd Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general caution - long winded and not necessarily EPS related rebuttle follows: > This sounds like a justification for pirating (aka stealing) to me. Does > this also mean that it is ok to break into the GM plant and take a car, > while it would be stealing to take one from a smaller company, say > Lexus? You seemed to miss my point completely, but I'll explain it more thoroughly - you say pirating "aka" stealing. Well, the two words exist as seperate entities for a reason. Stealing is physical - in the examples you list above with automobiles, a tangible physical object is being stolen, something that cannot be replaced without paying for the parts that made it up. In essence, cars have an intrinsic value, whereas software, outside of the medium (Cd-ROM, floppy) it may be contained on, does not. That's why the word "pirating" came into use - to describe the "theft" of information or other property not of the physical nature and having little *intrinsic* value. Therefore, your car example is totally inept and seems to be the end product of approximately 15 nanoseconds of hard thought (an over-estimation?). > Is it wrong to steal from a local shopkeeper while it is ok to steal > from > a large retailer like WallMart? again, incorrect analogies > Sure, stealing from one of 'the big > guys' > has less impact on their finances, but it is still morally wrong to do > so. Morals are guidelines created by man to meet certain ends. When those ends make rich companies richer and prevent artists from expressing themselves, when to do so would not affect the income/wellbeing of said companies, can we really say that such "morals" are having a positive effect? Morals are not carved in stone; more and more you might learn that if you keep an open mind to other cultures and do not remain tied to any one view. > Does this also mean that the Chineese should not be prosecuted for > pirating > all the copies of Windows 3.x and Windows 95 they were caught with? As a > programmer and a musician, I want the fruits of my labor protected by > copyright laws. as a musician I would agree your copyrights should hold water, as a programmer it depends upon the price and availability of your software and the function it performs. Incidentally, Bill Gates, in reference to the Windows OS, has said that Microsoft would not be where it is today, with Windows as the dominant operating system on so many PCs, had Windows not been one of the most pirated pieces of software in existence - an example of my theory that the increased user base helps rather than hinders a company. Thanks for picking an example like Windows, that I had an easy comeback to. Many software companied view pirating as a necessary evil to get a certain installed user base, I've read interviews where such things have been said. It's only the smaller independent producers that get hurt. - -Damien Thorn ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:31:59 +1100 From: Stev Cintury Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general At 18:05 13/01/97 +0100, you wrote: >Ok... everybody has got something to think about now... but can we go >on with the music? > >I remember half a year ago, there was a hints 'n tips going on for the >EPS list. Did anyone make a list of all the tricks? >Anybody in for a continued discussion? As a matter of fact yes, for the last year I've kept much useful info posted on this list, there's a veritable gold mine. Maybe I should sell it...%~> On piracy, I prefer things as black and white as possible. If you rip off someones product you should compensate. Simple. >But with a product like, say, 3d studio MAX, well - the average hobbyist can't afford >a $3000 3d program, so for that customer to get a pirated copy means that since >he/she would not have purchased it anyway, the company that made the >program (in this case, Kinetix) is not hurt economically. HUH... Not only does pirating cheapen the product and decrease its worth but if twenty people rip off the above product then the company is down $60,000. Tell me they would be happy about that. If it's cool for one, why not 100? It's not cool for 100, and not cool for one. >With all due respect, and merely to explore the topic further, I have to >ask: is it acceptable for the hungry to steal food? Perhaps it is. If there was all due respect, people wouldn't be going hungry. Stev Cintury http://www.kiss.com.au/~palace ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:50:07 -0800 From: zorch@SIRIUS.COM (Wayne Welch) Subject: EPS: tired of playin "catch the pirate," I wanna play music! If the following is true: (M. Hyman) >Thirdly, Prosoniq is no longer selling EPS/ASR effects disks, and hasn't >been for a long time. Then - why keep going on about it? Michael Hyman - nice web site, very helpful. D. Tinhof - many knowledgable & helpful posts. Can youze guys just chill a bit, & apply yer considerable energies & intelligence ta maybe, uh, how about a musical type thread? Whaddaya say? ===========> ZorchMan seZ: >>revUP>>>rockOUT>>>>raveON>>>>>> <=========== >>>"to the dulard even wine has no flavor... but the SORCERER can become intoxicated by the mere sight of water"- Hakim Bey <<< ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:49:53 -0500 From: "Sean O'Donnell" Subject: EPS: non-piracy post... I'd be interested in knowing if anyone on the list has experimented with configuring the EPS/ASR effects to perform functions similar to those of real-time looping devices, e.g--the now discontinued Lexicon JamMan, and the now insanely-expensive Oberheim Echoplex. It seems to me that this might be possible through altering the effects algorithms in order to use delays and S&H in unconventional ways. I would have a great deal more respect for my ASR-10 as a real-time instrument if this sort of thing were possible. In one failed attempt, I tried using the Sequencer in LOOP mode to attempt improvising on loops of varying lengths and tempos. I thought I'd be able to add stuff in real-time as the sequenced looped in overdub mode. Instead, the machine kept asking me over and over if I wanted to keep the old or new version. Eerrrnsschh! Anyhow, any thoughts at all on how to use the ASR-10 in real-time, even improvisational ways? I'd appreciate it. Sean "I can't drive my ASR 55" O'Donnell ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:08:53 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general Emily Lloyd wrote: > You seemed to miss my point completely, but I'll explain it more > thoroughly - you say pirating "aka" stealing. Well, the two words exist > as seperate entities for a reason. Stealing is physical - in the > examples you list above with automobiles, a tangible physical object is > being stolen, something that cannot be replaced without paying for the > parts that made it up. In essence, cars have an intrinsic value, whereas > software, outside of the medium (Cd-ROM, floppy) it may be contained on, > does not. That's why the word "pirating" came into use - to describe the > "theft" of information or other property not of the physical nature and > having little *intrinsic* value. Therefore, your car example is totally > inept and seems to be the end product of approximately 15 nanoseconds of > hard thought (an over-estimation?). No, you miss my point completely - pirating IS stealing. Software DOES have intrinsic value, and it is protected by laws. As a programmer and a partner in a software development business, I intend to prosecute anyone who steals code or binaries that we have produced. Regarding the comment: > Therefore, your car example is totally > inept and seems to be the end product of approximately 15 > nanoseconds of hard thought (an over-estimation?). 1) have either spent alot of time playing mind-games with yourself to justify the illegal activies (ie - stealing copyrighted software and samples) 2) attack everyone who makes a criticism of your ideas and writing 3) have no desire to get along with people on this mailing list 4) have never looked at copyright law regarding software and have no clue what the software development process entails since you so bitterly proclaim: > Many software companied view pirating as a necessary evil to get a > certain installed user base, I've read interviews where such things have > been said. It's only the smaller independent producers that get hurt. You cannot entice me into a battle on this topic. I have better things to do than discuss moral issues with someone who is obviously bitter with the entire world. This is the last message regarding this topic that I will write, or even read. In closing, Ms. Emily, I hope you will find another mailing list to spout off on - maybe alt.socialism.views.psychos ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 19:01:01 -0400 From: Scott Peer Subject: Re: EPS:Piracy in general >With all due respect, and merely to explore the topic further, I have to >ask: is it acceptable for the hungry to steal food? That would be a "no". >Perhaps it is. Is it acceptable for a poor man to steal tools or >materials to make art? Maybe so. That would also be a "no". $.02 poorer. Scott ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #13 ************************ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:12:00 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n014' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V3 #14 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, January 14 1997 Volume 03 : Number 014 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:02:44 -0700 (MST) From: twinny2 Subject: EPS: SIMM PROBLEMS hello. and damn. i finally found the simms i need for asr10. 4mb non parity, 30pin, 8chip simms eh? yeah. used for MAC LC's. BUT for some stupid reason, when i install them. they dont work. when i turn it on, and i put in my OS disk, it seems to read the disk, and then "please insert disk". it loops forever. i'm VERY sure that my OS disk is not defective. and i made sure the jumpers are correct. when i took out the simms and put back the original 2 megs, it works fine. i'm so dissappointed here. what the hell? did i buy defective simms? i doubt i messed them up! i've done this so many times with my computer. - --------------------------------- Jin Kim of Canada ================================= jin@cs.ualberta.ca jinkim@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca http://ugweb.cs.ualberta.ca/~jin/ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:42:31 -0500 From: Michael Hyman Subject: Re: EPS: tired of playin "catch the pirate," I wanna play music! At 1:50 PM 1/13/97 -0800, zorch@SIRIUS.COM (Wayne Welch) wrote: >If the following is true: (M. Hyman) > >>Thirdly, Prosoniq is no longer selling EPS/ASR effects disks, and hasn't >>been for a long time. > >Then - why keep going on about it? The answer is that I am genuinely concerned with software piracy and how it negatively affects and hurts everyone on the EPS maillist. To a lesser degree, it is the nature of Internet maillists to have new subscribers all the time, so while you may have read my Prosoniq piracy posts before (well over a year ago), many others here have not. I knew about Prosoniq's software piracy long before I made any posts about it to this maillist. I would not have posted a single message on this topic if there weren't multiple people on this maillist actively promoting Prosoniq. I am willing to never bring up the topic of Prosoniq's effects disks again in this maillist - but, is everyone else here willing to do the same? If in the future people continue to make uncontested positive Prosoniq effects disk posts, then I may speak up and counter these messages with the facts as I know them. - -- Mike mikeh@op.net ENSONIQ Resources on the Internet: http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ensoniq.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 08:54:33 +0100 From: Haakon.Berg@alcatel.no (Haakon Berg) Subject: EPS: Sounds, anyone? Hi, I read this newsgroup regularly and has learned a great deal. One thing that puzzles me though is that the vast majority of all postings deals with hardware realted stuff - which of course also needs to be aired, don`t get me wrong. It`s just that few people seem interested in debating the reason we all own samplers: *sounds*! I would like to hear from anyone who has bought or in other ways know the InVision CD-ROMs for the EPS/ASR. Which ones are good value? How do they compare to the Ensoniq CDRs? (I own Ensoniq`s CDR4 which is great value) And what about the Rubber Chicken CD-ROMs? Thanks. - -haakon ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:10:27 +0000 From: "Joe Frost" Subject: EPS: Hints and Tips. I remember when we got on a real roll for hints and tips on this list and it was excellent. I didn't keep a list of stuff though. Anyway, I have a question/tip and it is this: Has anyone had any success programming samples with transwaves? The only stuff I've done with modulation of the sample points is to take a TB303 type sample (starting filters open and ending filters closed) and then modulate the sample start point using velocity. That way, when you hit a key hard it gives the illusion of opening up resonant filters on your sampler. If you pick the wave well, this technique can be very effective. Please come back with some transwave info someone. Joe. > Ok... everybody has got something to think about now... but can we go > on with the music? > > I remember half a year ago, there was a hints 'n tips going on for the > EPS list. Did anyone make a list of all the tricks? > Anybody in for a continued discussion? > > /Mattias > ____ ___ ___ / / / /_ /__/ /__/ /__________________________________________ Joe Frost ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:40:01 -0800 From: Mattias Engstr=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F6?=m Subject: Re: EPS: tired of playin "catch the pirate," I wanna play music! Michael Hyman wrote: > >Then - why keep going on about it? > > The answer is that I am genuinely concerned with software piracy and how it > negatively affects and hurts everyone on the EPS maillist. To a lesser > degree, it is the nature of Internet maillists to have new subscribers ...OK, let's stop this thread now, OK? Discuss this under alt.software.piracy or something like it, but not HERE, this is supposed to be a createive mailing list dealing with music(equipment), not bringing up eternal questions about right and wrong. > if there weren't multiple people on this maillist actively promoting > Prosoniq. I am willing to never bring up the topic of Prosoniq's effects > disks again in this maillist - but, is everyone else here willing to do the Please don't. /Mattias Engstrom y92maten@isy.liu.se ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:33:48 EST From: "Herzet Georges" Subject: EPS: TS-10 Empty ROM slots Hi ! I recently read about empty ROM slots in the TS-10 . I suppose Ensoniq will never add more program banks to the TS-10 (no more support), so what about third party ROMS which would add some interesting sounds to the TS-10 ? We would then get a TS-10 ++ :) ... Of course, nobody knows if the operating system of the TS synths can handle more ROM banks than currently ... Georges +-------------------------+ | Georges Herzet | | BE3CKM5K@IBMMAIL.COM | +-------------------------+ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:47:59 +0500 From: decor@imaginet.fr (Decor Sonore) Subject: Re: EPS: Sounds, anyone? >Hi, > >I read this newsgroup regularly and has learned a great deal. >One thing that puzzles me though is that the vast majority of >all postings deals with hardware realted stuff - which of course >also needs to be aired, don`t get me wrong. It`s just that few people >seem interested in debating the reason we all own samplers: >*sounds*! > >I would like to hear from anyone who has bought or in other ways know >the InVision CD-ROMs for the EPS/ASR. Which ones are good value? How >do they compare to the Ensoniq CDRs? (I own Ensoniq`s CDR4 which is great >value) > >And what about the Rubber Chicken CD-ROMs? > > Dear Haakon, I just listened to the 2 floppies you sent me (ooops, is this piracy?...), and I am very satisfied with them, especially "musical saw" & "bowed psaltry". From this experience I can say that CDR4 seems to be really great (good sources, careful recording & creative programming), and I'm considering buying it (good boy, no piracy...). On the other hand, I bought InVision's CDR8 (Orchestral) a few months ago, and I must confess that (to my humble opinion) it's quite disappointing (I transferred only... THREE sounds onto my regular hard disk for quick access). Overall it doesn't sound really bad, but frankly most of the classical sounds it contains can be found elsewhere with better quality; there are only 58 sounds on CDR8 (they cared to program direct macro access, though). As for the RCS disks, they are incredible value if you consider their low price & the huge amount of instruments stored on them! Quality is a little bit inconsistent, since sounds come from various musicians/developers like you & me. I've got both CD 1 & 2 (some of my sounds are on CD#1, mostly gathered with B.Carson's "Renaissance-Medieval" library, or dispersed here & there, some other are filed under "The French Collection" on CD#2. So you'll have to spend some time to grab, sort & maybe tailor the sounds that might be suitable for your needs. RCS used to distribute K.Thomas's wonderful library, but you won't find it on the CDs, same for the GREAT Dietmar Tinhof's ASL library (I hope your cheeks are getting red, Dietz!): CD#2 contains some sounds by Dietz, but mostly short sound effects. That's all for today! Michel Risse from P.a.r.i.s. (in France, i.e. the only available thing called Paris for the moment...) .............................................................................. ( ( ( ( ( (((((((DECOR SONORE))))))) ) ) ) ) ) Michel Risse & Pierre Sauvageot 42, rue Eugene Carriere, 75018 - Paris, France tel: 33(0)1 42 52 36 08 fax: 33(0)1 42 52 36 09 E-mail:decor@imaginet.fr ............................................................................ .. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:09:09 -0500 From: "Michael Eringis" Subject: Re: EPS: Hints and Tips. Um, Yeah, Back to the subject... I've been playing around alot lately with modulating a speech snippet with the transwave and loopstart settings. The catch is, when you bounce those start points and loop pints all over the place, the "click" normally associated with a bad loop becomes unavoidable. Even with "autoloopfind" on, it doesn't get much better. I've seen an old Prophet 2000 do a much better job of modulating the start point. The hacked solution I've come up with is to swing the ENV3 back a notch, so the first instant of the sound is muted, then lean the sequence forward to compensate. But that ain't no cure for modulated loop points. They just buzz, and buzz and buzz... Any Ideas ? - -michael eringis R/GA digital studios eringis@rega.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:14:36 -0800 From: Mattias Engstr=?iso-8859-1?Q?=F6?=m Subject: Re: EPS: Hints and Tips. Michael Eringis wrote: > > the "click" normally associated with a bad loop becomes unavoidable. Even with > "autoloopfind" on, it doesn't get much better. I've seen an old Prophet 2000 > do a much better job of modulating the start point. > > The hacked solution I've come up with is to swing the ENV3 back a > notch, so the first instant of the sound is muted, then lean the sequence > forward to compensate. But that ain't no cure for modulated loop points. They I have used a similar trick to get rid of pops when modulating sample- start. But I used the filter env instead, with shortest possible time opening the filter from 0 - 127, this works pretty good, and should preserve a little more of the actual begginning of the sound. Another Idea might be to set the ENV3 to be totally silent for, let's say 1/64th note, and adjusting all notes on the sequencer, shifting them the same amount 'left'... (if you imagine playing to the right :-) This will at least give you a sharp start. But I think the filter- version works pretty good. /Mattias ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:43:14 -0800 From: Ryan Michael Painter Subject: EPS: ASR 10 and Iomega Jaz Drives I am in need of help, if any one knows how to get an ASR 10 to work with an Iomega Jaz Drive please let me know. I purchased both about two months ago and have been struggling to find any information on how to get the two to work together... I have been told by a number of people it should work, but none are quite sure how. I'm not on the list (perhaps I should be). Please, someone, anyone.. save this little guitar playing sampler rookie.. ryan ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:01:44 -0500 (EST) From: Rocheleau David Eric Subject: Re: EPS: non-piracy post... I use the ASR10 in a real time Improvisation context. I am not able to go in detail rigth now, but I process my electric bass trough the audio tracs in order to modify the timbre in real time. My colleague Nicolas Boucher uses the ASR as a real time sound generator and sampler in the same improvisationnal context. The easthetics of our music is real time electroacoustic performances through improvisation. I will talk more about technique next time around, perhaps Nic could let you in on some details as well. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:34:45 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: EPS: RCS reply on Prosoniq At 01:42 AM 1/14/97 -0500, you wrote: >if there weren't multiple people on this maillist actively promoting >Prosoniq. I am willing to never bring up the topic of Prosoniq's effects >disks again in this maillist - but, is everyone else here willing to do the >same? If in the future people continue to make uncontested positive >Prosoniq effects disk posts, then I may speak up and counter these messages >with the facts as I know them. A few quick things. I do not promote Prosoniq, but I do support new original copyrighted effects files. I condemn any sales, copying of code, and/or copyright infringements that Prosoniq participated in. Enough said. Secondly, I didn't respond to Mike's post sooner because I have been doing some extended research on the matter. I would agree with Mike and ask that we stop the copyright posts, mainly because it has been discussed in length many times before. But there is more to talk about besides copyrights. Although we are still in the middle of the research to back it up, I do not agree with Mike's statement that "All Prosoniq audio effects were stolen from either WaveBoy or Ensoniq". Some were, but not all of them. We believe that there are up to 22 Prosoniq effects that are purely original code. I expect to conclude the research at the end of the week, and I have made a decision not to post it on this list, but to post it on the RCS web site. I will post the list to inform when the results are available. Mike was very correct in his findings from a year ago, but I do not believe he tested all the Prosoniq algorithms. My motivation behind this is only - I repeat only - to perhaps make some products legally avaialble to the general public - LEGALLY, and to the agreement of everyone - Ensoniq, Waveboy, Steven Sprenger, you, me, even Mike. I welcome Mike to rebutt any findings, if he wants to, but let's talk about the evidence for code copying for the moment and put on hold the ethical arguments. P.S. Mike, how many Prosoniq effects have you looked at? We have 55 of them. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:34:44 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re: EPS: SIMM PROBLEMS At 10:02 PM 1/13/97 -0700, you wrote: >BUT for some stupid reason, when i install them. >they dont work. when i turn it on, I have run into more defective chips lately myself. It's a very real possibility. This message from: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Garth Hjelte * * Rubber Chicken Software Co. * * 714 5th Street SE * * Willmar, MN 56201 USA * * * * 320-235-9798 - Voice and fax * * WEB: http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:35:11 -0600 From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re: EPS: Sounds, anyone? At 04:47 PM 1/14/97 +0500, you wrote: >RCS used to distribute K.Thomas's wonderful library, but you won't find it We still do. The sounds are a little expensive, but there are good. Avaialble only on floppy; howver, CD-1 has about 40% of the KT library, but without a lot of the orchestral stuff. >on the CDs, same for the GREAT Dietmar Tinhof's ASL library (I hope your >cheeks are getting red, Dietz!): CD#2 contains some sounds by Dietz, but >mostly short sound effects. RCS distributes the Austrian Sound Library from Dietz, which includes Hackbretts, Saxes, Accordians, and some other real fun stuff. They are very well sampled. >That's all for today! > >Michel Risse Michel's a hot samplist as well. >from P.a.r.i.s. (in France, i.e. the only available thing called Paris for >the moment...) We're all awaiting the 17th! I sure wish it's a sampler, but I would chance that it's proabably a hard disk recorder (market). RCS New Products: - ----------------------------------------------------- BlueWave Vintage Synth CD-ROM $99.95! TS/MR Tools for Windows $39.95! EPS/ASR Sampler Guide Available January 31st! Ten-Tone Temperment Disks $49.95! This message from: | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | | Garth Hjelte | | Customer Service Representative / Owner | | Rubber Chicken Software Co. | | 714 5th Street SE | | Willmar, MN 56201 USA | | | | 1-800-8-PRO-EPS - Toll Free Order Line | | 320-235-9798 - Technical Support and | | EPS/ASR/TS question line - Fax | | chickenEPS@willmar.com - e-mail | | OUR WEB PAGE | | http://www.soundcentral.com/~chickeneps | | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:44:41 -0800 From: Emily Lloyd Subject: EPS:piracy cont. - do not read if uninterested > pirating IS stealing. Software DOES > have intrinsic value, and it is protected by laws. As a programmer and > a partner in a software development business, I intend to prosecute > anyone Webster's third new International Dictionary: INTRINSIC: being good in itself or irreducible; being desirable or desired for its own sake. Software itslef is worthless without a computer to run it on (unless you use those AOL Cd-ROMS as drink coasters like I do) and so has no real intrinsic value. > You cannot entice me into a battle on this topic. The suggestion that a join a certain "mailin list" below implies that you need no enticing, as its vitriloic nature was most likely intended to entice me. >I have better things > to do than discuss moral issues with someone who is obviously bitter > with > the entire world. This is the last message regarding this topic that I > will write, or even read. In closing, Ms. Emily, I hope you will find > another mailing list to spout off on - maybe alt.socialism.views.psychos > alt.socialism.views.psychos is a USENET NEWSGROUP, not a MAILING LIST, mister computer programmer, sir. You see that ALT prefix? That's a good first clue. Of course, since I'm a psycho, I myself wouldn't be sane enough to correct you on this fact. Must be my domesticated and normalized doppleganger that follows all the rules who typed that. I try to keep him on a short leash. Get off your high horse and quit trying to regulate. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:18:36 +0100 From: Dietmar Tinhof Subject: EPS: Last words about a dead thread Hi all, hello Michael, [for me, English is the third and American the fourth language ;-) ; may my points be as brilliant as other people's ....] I promise that this will be my last public reply to you, Mike. Others have already chosen private E-mail to flame me and calling me names (thank you, Robby), so this seems to be your weapon of choice. What's more, this has the advantage that people easier to declare themselves, of course. I didn't imagine how many "independent" guys are in fact working for Ensoniq; let's hope it's for the sake of the users. >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:10:56 -0500 >From: Michael Hyman >Subject: Re: EPS: Software Piracy rehashed. [sorry, even longer] > >On 13 Jan 1997 00:21:29 +0100, Dietmar Tinhof writes: >>Ok, here we go ... > >... here we go flaming, Dietz? Mike, _you_ started the flame, not me. You involved me by quoting me: "/// No, I don't want to start the age-old 'Prosoniq pirated WAVeBOY'-flamewar again." [...] >I call it as I see it. I would never, under any circumstances, accuse >anyone of a crime or of commercial software piracy in writing unless I was >100% sure of what I was talking/writing about. To coin a phrase, I would say your're at least 120%. Sure, I mean. [...] >Whose corroborating evidence of Prosoniq's piracy and byte copying do you >want? *You* can verify that everything I am claiming is true by using the >effects file comparison software which I sent you in private e-mail in 1995. [...] I'm sure a few of the old-timers here can attest to >that. Of course I can remember. I was waiting for the appropriate law-suit, since. Invane. Put yourself in the spectators place: _You_ write a piece of software which (incidentally) seems to prove what you allege. Now think of a case where the other party writes another tool, which proves the exact contrary. Whom should we trust? We have nothing but two opinions - unproven, from the juristical point of view. Now we don't have another software than your's - but why does this automatically mean that everybody has to believe you unconditionally? Again, we need evidence in the juristical sense, _not_ estimated by some subjective standards. Your 120% sureness doesn't mean that a judge would be on your side; don't get me wrong (...this is _not_ meant as a personal comparison ...), but there were even murderers who were absolutely sure to be innocent. All I want you to do is to stand up and ask for objective right. Sue Stephan M. Sprenger. If you don't, you can be easily suspected of character assassination (... I hope this is the right word). >If you have any concerns or questions or need more information about my >proof of Prosoniq piracy, you really should have brought it up in 1995 >instead of flaming me now in 1997. I did, but you didn't listen. You quit this list as you appeared: all of a sudden. (1995 as well as 1997). [...]> If you want >to question my byte comparison results go ahead. I question them as long as there's no _objective_ evidence. >>What the heck - all this is pretty meaningless for me as musician. > >Apparently not, since you go off ranting and raving and flaming me when the >Prosoniq topic comes up on this maillist! NOW STOP IT! YOU are the only one who brings this topic into our subject lines. You didn't contribute anything to this list EXCEPT your allegements and the following flames. You didn't do _anything_ to help _anybody_ on this list, except to convince them that you are right. [...] >First off, Prosoniq hasn't done anything to me for me to sue them. They >stole effects code from Waveboy and Ensoniq, who are the injured parties in >this case. I am not Waveboy, and I am not Ensoniq Corporation. So are the concerned parties (WAVeBOY and Ensoniq) not convinced by your evidence? Or they just don't care? >Secondly, I am not just "_damned_ sure", I am 100% sure. I am drop-dead, >unquestionably sure. I am risking a personal lawsuit against myself sure. >I am so sure that it isn't funny. I don't make this sort of claim often. That's what I called 120%. >Thirdly, Prosoniq is no longer selling EPS/ASR effects disks, and hasn't >been for a long time. What purpose would a lawsuit serve? What purpose do your flames serve, then? >Fourth, suing someone in a foreign country is no small or inexpensive feat. >There are certain economic realities of bringing a lawsuit, whether it's a >domestic lawsuit or a foreign one. No problem at all, if you win. You _will_ win, of course, won't you? >Fifth, I am not "polluting" this maillist. I've only posted 2 messages >about Prosoniq in the last 16 months to this maillist, which includes this >message and the one yesterday. I firmly believe that what I am writing is >on-topic and is in the interest of readers of this maillist [...] Ok, I was told that "polluting" is a word too strong in English. I regret. What I mean is: You do have the knowledge; you do have the tools; you do have the time to follow the discussion on this list - all the problems, the ideas, the whishes, the quests for more information. You didn't say a _single_ word in 16 months - EXCEPT 2 messages on this forgotten Prosoniq-thread. Yes, it's on-topic for a short time. But when you leave, there's black, smoking spot on the wall. What is so special about Ensoniq, that they can't talk to us on this list like company-folks do it elsewhere (the Korg Wavestation engineers, the Cubase or Logic-programmers, just to name a few.) At least the ones lurking. In the German BBS-scene they call them "Sauger". >Sixth, I am showing great restraint in my response. Can you do the same, >and stop using the attacking, flaming language? I do my best; I tend to be more polite in my own language. Nevertheless: don't be surprised to get burned, when you light the fire. >>I proved more than once on this list that I don't tolerate software piracy, >>but I can't stand what looks like vile gossip, either. > >It happens to be true, though. Prosoniq pirated Waveboy and Ensoniq effects >code. It may be as well true or not. You say yes. My ears say no. You work for Ensoniq. I bought Prosoniq-FX (..... as well as most of the fabulous WAVeBOY-FX - just in case it slipped from your attention) Sue them or stop spreading the rumour. Let the court decide. You're the gunman, not the Sheriff. [...] >>Hey - you're software-engineer@ensoniq.com: What about some 'Net spirit? [...] >When I post public messages to the Net, I am "Mike" and only represent >myself. I post at night from my ISP account, which I pay for myself. I am >not pushing the agenda of any company (despite what you think Dietz), and >the messages that I post are of *personal* interest to me. [...] > I don't do >customer service. I am not interested in doing customer service. I am not >interested in dozens of strangers sending me private e-mail and asking for >things every time I make a public post. That's a pity. Must be a strange world that houses only customers and strangers, asking questions. ..... [off topic:] Another part of my Ego is teaching on the University for Music and Performing Arts here in Vienna. I learn a lot from my students when they're _asking me questions_. *** Thanks for reading that far. May your life be long and prosper. Dietz (signing off) ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:41:47 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: EPS: Who is the moderater here? I would like to know who the moderater of this list is. The moderator can email me directly at toddw@voicenet.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:50:16 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Marraccini Subject: Re: EPS: Who is the moderater here? This is a public, unmoderated list. I am the list maintainer (i.e. I keep the list software happy and deal with membership questions). There is no moderator. Jeff Jeff Marraccini jeff@oak.oakland.edu OCIS Network & Integration Services 810/981-0568 Oakland University "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia Jeff Marraccini's Home Page On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Todd Whitmore wrote: > I would like to know who the moderater of this list is. > The moderator can email me directly at toddw@voicenet.com > ============================================================================= > This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. > If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail > to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps > ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V3 #14 ************************ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:12:03 -0400 (EDT) To: jolsen@multi-ad.com From: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu Subject: Majordomo file: list 'eps' file 'v03.n015' Reply-To: Majordomo@oak.oakland.edu -- From: owner-eps-digest@ (eps-digest) To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V3 #15 Reply-To: eps Sender: owner-eps-digest@ Errors-To: owner-eps-digest@ Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, January 15 1997 Volume 03 : Number 015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:36:58 -0400 From: "Cristobal Mendoza" Subject: EPS: Flame me Forgive me for interrupting your little chat about piracy, but since I received 30+ messages about it (deleted 90% of them) I figure I am entitled (because the lost time during the download of all that stuff) to make my post about that subject, which has grown old very quickly. I beg you to please send me a private message if you are interested in replying. After reading some forward looking ideas by Damien, I have to agree to a certain extent with him. Don't get me wrong, I'm not endorsing piracy in anyway, but if Microsoft had really cared about the problem they would have lobbied so hard in Congress that the Marines (with Bill Gates carrying an assault rifle) would be in Beijing right now. It makes a lot of sense, and it is a practice Microsoft does by itself anyway, just look at Explorer 3.0 (it was free so you would not be called a pirate). Explorer is intellectual property, I guess it has a value (at least in development and man hours-salaries) but still, you are not paying a damn dime from the copy your neighbor Bob gave you. And remember that because of these practices Microsoft has become far and away the most successful company in the industry. "Installed User Base", key word here; why do you think they don't sell whole products, but upgrades? Because of that "Installed User Base". Half the price! twice the product!! (triple the profits). Some food for thought: have you people ever photocopied a book? It is not unlike software pirating; get the original, reproduce it, get all its benefits. Don't tell me that you have to buy the Encyclopedia Britannica because of every time you have had to get a photocopy or two from your school's original. There is a lot of gray area in the area of copyright and printed materials, and consider that printed books are more than 200 years old. In fact, publishers are generally not disturbed by these activities as long as someone is not selling bootleg copies. Now, if you interpolate books and software, you'll get the point. The thing is not making a profit. This is most definitely an offense and an aggression towards the maker of the product. Unfortunately, only Microsoft and Id Software (the makers of DOOM) know this. BTW: They have a lot more money than Kinetix and its $3000 monster. These people definitely don't know what economies of scale are. Tip: Microsoft does, and anyway it has managed to sell millions of relatively cheap programs that nobody really needs because it leads everyone to believe that they are necessary. Just a minor observation. Dosvidanya v.0.99 ZMA ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:07:45 -0800 From: dhanley@anv.net (Doug Hanley) Subject: EPS: PARIS scoop PARIS is a 16 Track Hard Disk recording System with a Card for your PC (No Mac version that I know of) Built in Effects comparble to the DP/Pro. List Price $2995 It would be nice if it were PCI and there was a Mac Version. I am sure there are more details for it though... +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Doug Hanley *Worship is the correct response to the presence of God*| |dhanley@anv.net http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/ | |Fresh Song Music http://coyote.accessnv.com/dhanley/freshsong/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:39:25 -0500 From: Michael Hyman Subject: Re: EPS: Last words... At 01:18 AM 1/15/97 +0100, Dietmar Tinhof wrote: [lots of flames, trolls, and illogical arguments deleted] I sincerely hope that others on this maillist figure out the real reason why Ensoniq doesn't get involved making message posts here. Goodbye Dietz - I have a late New Year's Resolution to follow beginning now. - -- Mike mikeh@op.net ENSONIQ Resources on the Internet: http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ http://www.op.net/~mikeh/ensoniq.html ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 03:55:57 -0500 (EST) From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: Re: lurking Ensoniq engineers > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:18:36 +0100 > From: Dietmar Tinhof > What is so special about Ensoniq, that they can't talk to us on this list > like company-folks do it elsewhere (the Korg Wavestation engineers, the > Cubase or Logic-programmers, just to name a few.) At least the ones lurking. Actually, many Ensoniq engineers regularly respond on this list. Also, I personally know several Ensoniq employees who read the digest even though they haven't ever posted. Nothing gets posted here without Ensoniq knowing (Hi guys!). Gary Giebler Giebler Enterprises www.giebler.com ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 03:55:57 -0500 (EST) From: Giebler@aol.com Subject: EPS: TS-10 Empty ROM slots > Of course, nobody knows if the operating system of the TS synths > can handle more ROM banks than currently ... The TS cannot handle more ROM banks without an OS update. Gary Giebler One Who Knows :-) ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:36:36 +0100 From: "Kai Niggemann (Canine)" Subject: EPS: Copyright Myths FAQ: 10 big myths about copyright explained (fwd) In all this discussion about piracy and copyright issues, maybe this document compiled by Brad Templeton can clarify some things. Talk about copyright in connection with sampling, does anybody know of a way to contact the MACOS ("musicians against copyrighting of samples")? Any help appreciated! >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Tue, 28 MAY 1996 08:00:14 GMT >>From: Brad Templeton >Newgroups: news.announce.newusers, news.admin.misc, misc.legal, > misc.legal.computing, misc.int-property, misc.answers, news.answers >Subject: Copyright Myths FAQ: 10 big myths about copyright explained > >Original-author: brad@clari.net (Brad Templeton) >Archive-name: law/copyright/myths/part1 >Last-change: 16 Oct 1995 by netannounce@deshaw.com (Mark Moraes) >Changes-posted-to: news.misc,news.answers > > 10 Big Myths about copyright explained > By Brad Templeton > > > 1) "If it doesn't have a copyright notice, it's not > copyrighted." > > This was true in the past, but today almost all major > nations follow the Berne copyright convention. For example, > in the USA, almost everything created privately after April 1, > 1989 is copyrighted and protected whether it has a notice or not. > The default you should assume for other people's works is that > they are copyrighted and may not be copied unless you *know* > otherwise. There are some old works that lost protection > without notice, but frankly you should not risk it unless > you know for sure. > > It is true that a notice strengthens the protection, by > warning people, and by allowing one to get more and > different damages, but it is not necessary. If it looks > copyrighted, you should assume it is. This applies to pictures, > too. You may not scan pictures from magazines and post them > to the net, and if you come upon something unknown, > you shouldn't post that either. > > The correct form for a notice is: > "Copyright by " > You can use C in a circle instead of "Copyright" but "(C)" > has never been given legal force. The phrase "All Rights > Reserved" used to be required in some nations but is now > not needed. > > > 2) "If I don't charge for it, it's not a violation." > > False. Whether you charge can affect the damages awarded in > court, but that's essentially the only difference. It's still a > violation if you give it away -- and there can still be > heavy damages if you hurt the commercial value of the > property. > > 3) "If it's posted to Usenet it's in the public domain." > > False. Nothing is in the public domain anymore unless the > owner explicitly puts it in the public domain(*). Explicitly, > as in you have a note from the author/owner saying, "I grant > this to the public domain." Those exact words or words very > much like them. > > Some argue that posting to Usenet implicitly grants > permission to everybody to copy the posting within fairly > wide bounds, and others feel that Usenet is an automatic store and > forward network where all the thousands of copies made are > done at the command (rather than the consent) of the > poster. This is a matter of some debate, but even if the > former is true (and in this writer's opinion we should all pray > it isn't true) it simply would suggest posters are implicitly > granting permissions "for the sort of copying one might expect > when one posts to Usenet" and in no case is this a placement > of material into the public domain. Furthermore it is very > difficult for an implicit licence to supersede an explicitly > stated licence that the copier was aware of. > > Note that all this assumes the poster had the right to post > the item in the first place. If the poster didn't, then all > the copies are pirate, and no implied licence or theoretical > reduction of the copyright can take place. > > (*) Copyrights can expire after a long time, putting someting > into the public domain, and there are some fine points on > this issue regarder older copyright law versions. However, none > of this applies to an original article posted to USENET. > > Note that granting something to the public domain is a complete > abandonment of all rights. You can't make something "PD for > non-commercial use." If your work is PD, other people can even > modify one byte and put their name on it. > > 4) "My posting was just fair use!" > > See other notes on fair use for a detailed answer, but bear > the following in mind: > > The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow > things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and > education about copyrighted works without the permission of the > author. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the > work are important considerations. Are you reproducing an > article from the New York Times because you needed to in order > to criticise the quality of the New York Times, or because you > couldn't find time to write your own story, or didn't want your > readers to have to pay to log onto the online services with the > story or buy a copy of the paper? The former is probably fair > use, the latter probably aren't. > > Fair use is almost always a short excerpt and almost always > attributed. (One should not use more of the work than is > necessary to make the commentary.) It should not harm the > commercial value of the work (which is another reason why > reproduction of the entire work is generally forbidden.) > > Note that most inclusion of text in Usenet followups is for > commentary and reply, and it doesn't damage the commercial > value of the original posting (if it has any) and as such it > is fair use. Fair use isn't an exact doctrine, either. The > court decides if the right to comment overrides the copyright > on an indidvidual basis in each case. There have been cases > that go beyond the bounds of what I say above, but in general > they don't apply to the typical net misclaim of fair use. > It's a risky defence to attempt. > > 5) "If you don't defend your copyright you lose it." > > False. Copyright is effectively never lost these days, unless > explicitly given away. You may be thinking of trade marks, which > can be weakened or lost if not defended. > > 6) "Somebody has that name copyrighted!" > > You can't "copyright a name," or anything short like that. > Titles usually don't qualify -- but I doubt you may write a > song entitled "Everybody's got something to hide except for > me and my monkey." (J.Lennon/P.McCartney) > > You can't copyright words, but you can trademark them, > generally by using them to refer to your brand of a > generic type of product or service. Like an "Apple" > computer. Apple Computer "owns" that word applied to > computers, even though it is also an ordinary word. Apple > Records owns it when applied to music. Neither owns the > word on its own, only in context, and owning a mark doesn't > mean complete control -- see a more detailed treatise on > this law for details. > > You can't use somebody else's trademark in a way that would > unfairly hurt the value of the mark, or in a way that might > make people confuse you with the real owner of the mark, or > which might allow you to profit from the mark's good name. > For example, if I were giving advice on music videos, I > would be very wary of trying to label my works with a name > like "mtv." :-) > > 7) "They can't get me, defendants in court have powerful rights!" > > Copyright law is mostly civil law. If you violate copyright > you would usually get sued, not charged with a crime. > "Innocent until proven guilty" is a principle of criminal > law, as is "proof beyond a reasonable doubt." Sorry, but in > copyright suits, these don't apply the same way or at all. > It's mostly which side and set of evidence the judge or > jury accepts or believes more, though the rules vary based > on the type of infringement. In civil cases you can even > be made to testify against your own interests. > > 8) "Oh, so copyright violation isn't a crime or anything?" > > Actually, recently in the USA commercial copyright > violation involving more than 10 copies and value over > $2500 was made a felony. So watch out. (At least you get > the protections of criminal law.) On the other hand, don't > think you're going to get people thrown in jail for posting > your E-mail. The courts have much better things to do than > that. This is a fairly new, untested statute. > > 9) "It doesn't hurt anybody -- in fact it's free advertising." > > It's up to the owner to decide if they want the free ads or > not. If they want them, they will be sure to contact you. > Don't rationalize whether it hurts the owner or not, *ask* > them. Usually that's not too hard to do. Time past, > ClariNet published the very funny Dave Barry column to a > large and appreciative Usenet audience for a fee, but some > person didn't ask, and forwarded it to a mailing list, got > caught, and the newspaper chain that employs Dave Barry > pulled the column from the net, pissing off everybody who > enjoyed it. Even if you can't think of how the author or > owner gets hurt, think about the fact that piracy on the net > hurts everybody who wants a chance to use this wonderful new > technology to do more than read other people's flamewars. > > 10) "They e-mailed me a copy, so I can post it." > > To have a copy is not to have the copyright. All the E-mail > you write is copyrighted. However, E-mail is not, unless > previously agreed, secret. So you can certainly *report* on > what E-mail you are sent, and reveal what it says. You can > even quote parts of it to demonstrate. Frankly, somebody > who sues over an ordinary message might well get no damages, > because the message has no commercial value, but if you want > to stay strictly in the law, you should ask first. On the > other hand, don't go nuts if somebody posts your E-mail. If > it was an ordinary non-secret personal letter of minimal > commercial value with no copyright notice (like 99.9% of all > E-mail), you probably won't get any damages if you sue them. > > > ----------------- In Summary --------------------------- > > These days, almost all things are copyrighted the moment they > are written, and no copyright notice is required. > > Copyright is still violated whether you charged money or not, > only damages are affected by that. > > Postings to the net are not granted to the public domain, and > don't grant you any permission to do further copying except > *perhaps* the sort of copying the poster might have expected > in the ordinary flow of the net. > > Fair use is a complex doctrine meant to allow certain valuable > social purposes. Ask yourself why you are republishing what > you are posting and why you couldn't have just rewritten it > in your own words. > > Copyright is not lost because you don't defend it; that's > a concept from trademark law. The ownership of names is > also from trademark law, so don't say somebody has a name > copyrighted. > > Copyright law is mostly civil law where the special rights > of criminal defendants you hear so much about don't apply. > Watch out, however, as new laws are moving copyright > violation into the criminal realm. > > Don't rationalize that you are helping the copyright holder; > often it's not that hard to ask permission. > > Posting E-mail is technically a violation, but revealing > facts from E-mail isn't, and for almost all typical E-mail, > nobody could wring any damages from you for posting it. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Permission is granted to freely copy this > document in electronic form, or to print for > personal use. If you had not seen a notice > like this on the document, you would have to > assume you did not have permission to copy it. > This document is still protected by you-know- > what even though it has no copyright notice. > > It should be noted that the author, as publisher of an > electronic newspaper on the net, makes his living by > publishing copyrighted material in electronic form and has > the associated biases. However, DO NOT E-MAIL HIM FOR LEGAL > ADVICE; for that use other resources or consult a lawyer. > Also note that while most of these principles are universal > in Berne copyright signatory nations, some are derived from > Canadian and U.S. law. This document is provided to clear > up some common misconceptions about intellectual property > law that are often seen on the net. It is not intended to > be a complete treatise on all the nuances of the subject. A > more detailed copyright FAQ, covering other issues including > compilation copyright and more intricacies of fair use is > available in the same places you found this note, or for FTP > on rtfm.mit.edu in pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/law/copyright/faq. > Also consider gopher://marvel.loc.gov/11/copyright for > actual statutes. Another useful document is > http://www.eff.org/pub/CAF/law/ip-primer > > This FAQ can be found at http://www.clari.net/brad/copymyths.html > Canine - -- __________________________________________________________________________ FHD\SOA\71K9\A9IS\THE\OWLS\ARE\NOT\WHAT\THEY\SEEM\2199\SDFK\SKD\SD\CANINE\ Kai Niggemann fon: +49 - 251 - 661833 johanniterstr 17.48145 muenster. phax: +49 - 251 - 661852 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:44:59 +0200 (EET) From: Mikko Helin Subject: EPS: Prosonic FX etc. I don't like this thread at all, but honestly, I'd like to hear some Prosonic fxs, could somebody mail me some by private email, please? (as an uuencoded/base-64 coded .efe file for PC. I'd like to hear the rez filters especially) This brings another subject into my mind: who actually owns an obsolete piece of software (like Prosonic FX), which is no more sold anywhere? Can it be privately sold (as used cars) or even given away for free? I quess it doesn't make it public domain, however. Mike H: as an Ensoniq employee could you tell us how and who gets legitimate third-party developement support for Ensoniq software and hardware, and what is required for such, (perhaps a NDA)? Your web-site has much information on different multimedia and fx chips (otto and esp chips), how can somebody actually get those parts and datasheets for them? Mikko Helin ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:23:42 +0200 (IST) From: Boris Gutman Subject: EPS: real-time sound modification Rocheleau David Eric wrote: >I use the ASR10 in a real time Improvisation context. >I am not able to go in detail rigth now, but I process my electric bass >trough the audio tracs in order to modify the timbre in real time. I don't know what do you mean by "right now", but if you could share any hints on how you do it, I'd greatly appreciate that. In general, I'm very intereted in modifying a timbre beyond the usual pitch/amp/filter modulation. E.g., something that goes like "aaaaakhhhhrrrrrrrzumpzumpzump", preferably controllable in real-time :-) Is Transwaves the keyword? B.t.w., Yamaha TG77 features so-called RCM (Realtime Convolution and Modulation), where a sampled sound acts as an FM modulator. I achieved some pretty wild sounds with it. However, TG77's sample ROM is very limited, and I think integrating RCM with a sampler has a great potential. Also, the term "realtime" suggests that Audio-In could be used as a modulator... I once even dreamed of equipping my TG77 with an A-D converter (which would make it quite a unique item :-), but that's probably very hard, if at all possible. Maybe my dream will come true as an add-on to ASR-10? (I might even pay for such a beast!) regards, Boris. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:21:42 -0500 From: Todd Whitmore Subject: EPS: Trying To Edit EPS;/ASR Sample Parameters On TS12 I was wondering why my TS12 allows me to alter the parameters of some sounds, and get 'LAYER EDIT NOT ALLOWED' on others. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:28:21 -0600 From: "Les Morey" Subject: EPS: Re: Trying To Edit EPS;/ASR Sample Parameters On TS12 - ---------- > From: Todd Whitmore > To: eps@oak.oakland.edu > Subject: EPS: Trying To Edit EPS;/ASR Sample Parameters On TS12 > Date: Wednesday, January 15, 1997 7:21 AM > > I was wondering why my TS12 allows me to alter the parameters of > some sounds, and get 'LAYER EDIT NOT ALLOWED' on others. > Probably because you are trying to edit parameters that only work on individual waveforms rather than on layers. Typically what you have to do is select a specific wave that you want to work with, then alter the parameter. My recommendation: go out and find a classic EPS-they are selling pretty cheap, and are MUCH preferable to doing the TS route. A cheaper alternative might be a program that Garth is working on; I think that it will allow you to do EPS-type edits directly on the samples on your PC, which you can then save and use happily on the TS without any of the "load sample edits" grief. L. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:35:29 -0500 From: David Steigerwald Subject: EPS: EPSDisk - can't copy sequences I have been trying to build EPS 16+ versions of the ASR-10 disks located up on Ensoniq's web page using EPSDisk. I can extract all of the files from the originals, and can copy the instrument files to an EPS formatted disk, but when I try to copy the sequences it seems to get confused about the number of blocks in the sequence file. The number of blocks it thinks the sequence will take is so large (over 10000!) that there could never be enough space on a floppy to store it. Is this a known bug in EPSDisk? I have been meaning to test out a regular EPS 16+ sequence and see if it is specific to the ARS-10 sequences. ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 97 09:38:53 EST From: Matt Chinn <70004.4322@compuserve.com> Subject: EPS: DiskTracks Question I have just started to teach myself how to record vocals directly to my Zip Drive. It's been working beautifully, however I am a little confused with the concept of an audio track and an audio sample. I know you can record up to 2 different audio tracks (each containing numerous audio samples kicked off in various places), but say I recorded 4 audio samples using audio track 1 in a song (like a verse, a chorus, a verse , a chorus), then decided I wanted to delete the 2nd audio sample (the first chorus) because it didn't sound right. When I use the "Delete Audiotrack" command, will it erase every audio sample within that audio track or just the 2nd one that is messed up that I want to record over? Hope I don't sound too confusing here. mattc ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:49:10 -0500 From: "Charles D. Starrett" Subject: Re: EPS: PARIS scoop >PARIS is a 16 Track Hard Disk recording System with a Card for your PC >(No Mac version that I know of) Built in Effects comparble to the DP/Pro. >List Price $2995 Did you get this off of the PARIS web page? It seems to have moved to: http://www.paris.ensoniq.com/ but I can't get into it. In any event I have only one comment: bugger I've been squeaking by on my EPS Classic, now it's outputs have gone dead (if you listen closely, playing clusters makes more background noise than playing one note. As for the sample, it doesn't sound at all... I guess that makes the "background noise" "foreground noise" since that's the only noise the 'board makes!) I've been holding off on getting anything new/used to see what next great thing ENSONIQ puts out in the sampler line and...nothin'. In fact, *less* than nothin'. PARIS sound's great, but I'm quite happy with my PowerBook and if I'm gonna buy a desktop computer just so I can stick a card in it, I'll buy a PowerMac and a Kyma system... So what should I do? I love the sound of the new Emu boxes (great filters), but they can't touch the EPS/ASR for real-time modulation & sound manipulation. Any guesses as to whether the ASR is the end-of-the-line? Should I get a used one *now* before they attain "vintage" status? :) /----Charles D. Starrett-----\ | / | ____ | | ____ | | /\--| | |-| | | | / \ | |____| | |___ | | | | | ___|___ | \--starrett@fas.harvard.edu--/ ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Loeb Subject: Re: EPS: SIMM PROBLEMS >what the hell? >did i buy defective simms? >i doubt i messed them up! >i've done this so many times with my computer. Did you change the jumper settings properly? jon BioMuse Productions San Diego, CA ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:48:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Loeb Subject: Re: EPS: Sounds, anyone? >I would like to hear from anyone who has bought or in other ways know >the InVision CD-ROMs for the EPS/ASR. Which ones are good value? How >do they compare to the Ensoniq CDRs? (I own Ensoniq`s CDR4 which is great >value) > >And what about the Rubber Chicken CD-ROMs? I own Chicken CD-ROM #1 and am very happy with it. To be sure, on a volume with such a wide spectrum of sounds, not every one is going to be a must-use-it-somewhere kind of winner, but a surprising percentage of them are. Most of these sounds are not of the jaw-dropper variety, which, it could be argued, occupy a different and more disposeable niche. A good value, which will broaden your sonic palette with musically useful sounds (and some really great patch-select programming.) I too would be interested to hear about the various Invision volumes from those who own them. jon BioMuse Productions San Diego, CA ============================================================================= This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. In the message body put: unsubscribe eps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:17:06 +1100 From: Stev Cintury Subject: EPS: A Tips & Tricks refresh For anyone who missed the tips and tricks thread here is a summary along with the genius' who discovered and/or passed them on. There were several tips on hi hats, drum, and time shifting which were great but to lengthy to include in this mail. Next time maybe. Enjoy SC ************************************************************************* Here's a looping trick. I don't hear this ever on Techno tracks but I use to do it when I used loops. take your drum loop and get it going in the song so that it's correctly in sync. Then make a copy parameter of it on to another layer. spread each layer out in the stereo field, hard right and left. Now start moving the sample start of the original or copied sample (but not both) up in good size increments. As you move it through you'll find excellent sample starts that add incredibly cool demension to your loop. If you do this on three or for layers you can use the patch selects to move through them changing the psuedo characteristics and rhythm of the sample. YOWWWWWZZZZAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! This the kind of stuff you end up doing when you've used the same stinking sampler since 1989:) Saul Stokes **************************** Just wanted to add a note to this one: Since your effectively changing your signal phase with this, there is one problem: Don't use it on full drum loops: high-volume bass frequencies with different stereo phases will cause all sorts of interference on club PAs (yes, I've tried it). And, speaking of techno tracks, stereo bass parts can't be put onto normal vinyl records, since this will damage the cutting machine/needle. If I want some more "dimension" in my drum loops, I put a 4-pole low-pass filtered version on layer one, an put two stereo panned high-pass versions on layers 2 & 3. On these, you either change the sample start, or increase the layer delay time, or (for a chorus-type effect) apply some LFO modulation to the pitch (vibrato). John Bodenstein **************************** Don't know how new or novel this little trick is. Start with a sampled phrase (I use it mainly on spoken dialogue but would work on anything that changes radically over time). Sequence sixteenth-notes quantized for maximum *machine* effect. Set mod wheel to sample start. Play sequence while manipulating mod wheel to control stuttering effect Record mod wheel on seperate track while experimenting to see which moves produce the coolest fx. Hours of fun (if you're easily entertained. Michael Talley **************************** For most buzz-and-pop-free operation of wave modulation, try this: For PC owners: Generate a sample with 43.06640625 cps at 44100 sr, and youll get a loop length of exactly 1024 samples. Can be done in Goldwave. Sample length should be about 4 seconds. You can then tweak it to your taste. Ex: Generate sawtooth. Add a logarithmic envelope. Make a byte swap (CoolEdit does this). You get a sawtooth sync sweep. Scaling this to 100000% makes it a square sync sweep. Appropriate filtering in the EPS makes it sound nearly like a filter sweep with mucho rezz. You can lower rez by thinning out the wave: Generate square (43.06640625 cps) Dc shift so it covers only the upper half of the wave display. Goldwave does this better in this case. Paste special (mix) to the wave generated above. Dc shift so the pulsed part of the wave is in the middle of the display. Scale to 200 (or more)%. The more the square gets a pulse wave, the less rez you get. Params on EPS: sample start 130048 loop start 130048 loop end 131072 wave|mod: both, wheel, -99, range 128k If you want cutoff scaling, make 30 copies, everyone covering 2 keys. Then play around with sample start and loop position to get _your_ scaling.When there is some space between sample start and loop pos, you get a filter envelope like thing. For EPS onlys: Use samples with much overtones or overdrive the sampler input. Get hold of the exact loop length of your sample,so the tuning with and without loop is the same. Set the filter params so the filter cuts out the noize in the overtoneless part of the wave. Try getting the optimum loop pos with auto loop finding off. Another thing: time stretching !(uhhhh--buzzy!) Sample the sentence (or whatever...) you want to stretch. Make a loop .02 to .1 seconds long. Params: sample start 0 loop start 0 loop end 500~10000 ,depending on sample rate and the effect you want. wave|mod: loop, env 1 or 2, +99, range greater than sample end. env|hard levels 00 99 99 99 99 env|time 1 50~99, depending on sample length and effect. If you set attack time vel, you can control the stretching with velocity. Overdriving the audio in and slight filtering gives the right techno touch. Phhhhhh.. all for now, Gunter c/o Clake **************************** Talking of tricks, here's a very simple one that I use to fatten up sounds: having got the sample tidied up, create a second layer, copy the wave parameters to layer two and then pan each layer equally in opposite directions. Having got the pan sounding okay, detune both of the layers in oppostie directions with fine tune (only with a value of about 4 or 5) and you should find that the sound has more depth and a more spacial feel. Or you may just draw the conclusion that this is a crap tip! Joe Frost **************************** This is good and works great too if you push the sample start of one sample a little ahead of the other, the Haas effect I think it's called. Here is the ultimate tip that I have always had really good results with. I'm really not sure whether or not 16+'s and ASR's have a synthesize loop feature or not. If you have an good ole' EPS you can do some amazing things with this feature. Take a drum sound for example. YOU loop without worrying about pulling the start and ends tight (Leave it in "delay" like form. Then synthesize the loop. You will be amazed at the weird reverb like trails you can get from this. The fact of the matter is that synthesize loop works best on real crappy loops and doesn't work well on good loops. Often the first thing I do when I want to make any type sound is after I've got the sample, I loop it and synthesize it. If it doesn't sound good play around with the loop positions but don't