From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #186 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, 1 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 186 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DELPHI Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 00:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Am I advertising? On 25-OCT-1994 00:37:33.4 ChickenEPS said to SPIKE033 > Brian believes I "advertise (my) business repeatedly" on this list. >If this is true, I would appreciate any feedback on how I could make >my posts more "list-friendly". Please let me know if you feel I have >crosssed the line of "advertising" and/or not mentioned all sources of >purchase. > By the way, I don't sell the LucyTuning. =) > Garth/RCS Garth is a resource not an advertiser. I enjoy hearing about the new products. Rubber Chicken has been a very strong 3rd party supporter of the ASR-10. I do understand that it might be mistook as advertisement though. The person who started this disscussion however did have a point. I don't really agree or disagree. "I just want us all to get along." advertiser or not `[1;33;42mRainbow V 1.06 for Delphi - Test Drive ------------------------------ From: Timo Kuittinen Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 10:44:20 +0200 (EET) Subject: Soloist demo in eps Hi! === I was asking Mike Rivers about some pitch detection software and when I found out he had a demo version of one (The Soloist, by Isis) I asked if he would upload it to eps. He was kind enough to do that so now there are files SOLODEMO.ZIP and SOLOIST.DOC in pub/eps/incoming It is for IBMs. Haven't had time to check them out yet. Cheers, Timo ==== ------------------------------ From: pbuchta@mail.med.cornell.edu (Peter Buchta) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 08:32:25 -0500 Subject: VFX-sd for sale I have my VFX-sd for sale, comes with hard road case, sustain pedal, Ram card, and expanded sequencer memory to 75,000 notes (really great!) and about 200 to 400 different sounds. Has the best built in sequencer out on the market. Great midi controller too. Asking about $1050. Peter J. Buchta Video Operations Cornell University Medical College pbuchta@mail.med.cornell.edu ------------------------------ From: s9400015@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (David Haberfeld) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 04:23:13 EST Subject: asr new efx could someone please tell the address of "Prosoniq"-and what exactly do they have for the ASR, thanking you david s9400015@minyos.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: canine@anexia.westfalen.de (Kai Niggemann) Date: 30 Oct 1994 01:14:57 GMT Subject: Re: Re: New ASR-Effects Are you sure about that? I mean you just sound very casual about what seems to be a major rip-off of your copyright? Can you prove that? because it also doesn't seem like somthing to just say about your competition (you are affiliated with Waveboy, aren't you?)? Are you going to sue them? Is the list going to be among the first people to know? Will you make it bloody and gory? In the immortal Words of Beavis and Butthead: "That would be cool!"... Oh and by the way: Even though I may have a ".de" address, I have no clue who that german compnay even is. I am just a user of an ASR. in peace. - - Canine ###"ru486? Yes I am Sir!" (Consolidated)### - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message comes from an inhabitant of Anexia. It consists solely of the inhabitant's personal views and opinions. For more info on Anexia write to: Thanks for your attention.This was an Anexia-public-service-announcement - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #186 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #187 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, 2 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 187 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 21:01:24 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: ASR10 SCSI question On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Jesper Gummeson wrote: > I'm running ASR with a SCSI-I Seagate hd, a SCSI-II Seagate hd > and a SCSI-II Insite floptical diskdrive at the same time. > It works! > I even the SCSI II plug heads are different from the SCSI ones right? So how do u get the pin outs of the cables right? Khew ------------------------------ From: jesper@iss.se (Jesper Gummeson) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 14:28:10 +0100 Subject: Re: ASR10 SCSI question The connectors on the physical harddisks are the same... My SCSI disks are in boxes with 50pin Centronics type connectors to the 25pin SCSI connector on ASR (same type as MAC / PC). /Jesper >On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Jesper Gummeson wrote: > >> I'm running ASR with a SCSI-I Seagate hd, a SCSI-II Seagate hd >> and a SCSI-II Insite floptical diskdrive at the same time. >> It works! >> > >I even the SCSI II plug heads are different from the SCSI ones right? So >how do u get the pin outs of the cables right? > >Khew > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ /\ Jesper Gummeson | email: jesper@iss.se /\/ \ Technical Support | Fax : +46 8-276620 /\/ \ \ Summit Scandinavia AB | Voice: +46 8-276670 ___________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: ctodish@levelone.com (Clint Todish) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 07:53:10 +0600 Subject: Re: ASR10 SCSI question >On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Jesper Gummeson wrote: > >> I'm running ASR with a SCSI-I Seagate hd, a SCSI-II Seagate hd >> and a SCSI-II Insite floptical diskdrive at the same time. >> It works! >> > >I even the SCSI II plug heads are different from the SCSI ones right? So >how do u get the pin outs of the cables right? > >Khew > No, SCSI-1 & SCSI-2 devices are completely interchangable. Actually, all SCSI devices are interchangable (even SCSI-3, but it's not done very often). Both SCSI-1 & 2 have 50 pin header or centronic connectors. The specification of SCSI-2 includes a mode called 'fast SCSI' which doubles the transfer rate to 10mbs. Practially ANY SCSI drive will work well on practially ANY SCSI system (or so it's supposed to ... it being a so-called 'standard interface'). later Clint Todish / Level One Consulting ------------------------------ From: Mark Knutsen Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 9:59:49 EST Subject: FOR SALE: EPS 16+ rackmount w/SCSI I've come to the conclusion that I have neither the time nor the inclination to invest in sampling, and perhaps the 16+ I bought recently would be of better service in someone else's studio. This is the rackmount unit, and it has the SCSI option installed. It has a good-sized sound library, sustain pedal, and owner's manuals for both the unit AND the SCSI option. I can even transfer my new Transoniq Hacker subscription to you, the lucky buyer. I haven't posted this ad anywhere else yet; you guys get first dibs. Asking $1200 COD, and I'll pay shipping within the continental USA. - - =============================================================================== Mark Knutsen, now located in Stamford, CT. Same old email address: knutsen@pilot.njin.net OR knutsen@pilot.rutgers.edu OR {...}!rutgers!knutsen ------------------------------ From: mod30075@cip1.uni-hannover.de (Christian Ismer) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 17:15 MET Subject: Re: asr new efx >could someone please tell the address of "Prosoniq"-and what exactly do they have for the ASR, The adress is: Server Jurastr. 42 D-68753 Waghaesel Germany - Christian ------------------------------ From: "Steigerwald, David G." Date: Wed, 02 Nov 94 06:58:00 EST Subject: Unformat an EPS Disk? I accidentily started to format my boot floppy. I grabbed it before it had gone too far, but looking at it with EPSUTIL I can see that the first 80 blocks are blank. I do have a backup that doesn't have the last couple of things I've done on it, is there any way to use the backup to restore this one? EPSUTIL is really not much good, I can't tell what the directory is, nor can I copy blocks from one disk to another. ------------------------------ From: Ross Bencina Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 12:41:58 +1000 Subject: RE: Non-Waveboy Effect I'm sorry, did I miss something???? Last time I knew, ESP microcode was Ensoniq proprietary and NO ONE but bob@ensoniq.com (AKA Waveboy) was given any chance to write effects for EPS/ARS boxes. Has this situation recently changed? I would love do some ESP programming. ross b. ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #187 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #188 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, 3 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 188 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 04:36:01 -0500 Subject: Stereo Smaples Here's a question for all: If you stereo-sampled something on the ASR-10, saved it to a DS/DD, and loaded the files into a 16-Plus (and then panned each layer hard left and hard right), would the sample remain in true stereo? Would the two layers stay in phase, or is the 16-Plus not able to exactly "sync" the two? In other words, is stereo-sampling just related to sampling and not playback? ------------------------------ From: JBytes@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 05:14:36 -0500 Subject: How does one get ASR_SCSI? Allo, Now supposedly this ASR_SCSI program is a 'free' one. If it is so, why is it that no one can get a hold of it? Does one need to buy that Jupiter looping utility in order to get it? Later, JB.. ------------------------------ From: "J.W. Hopkins" Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:14:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Eps 16+ sample files Dear all, I started writing softwear about 6 months ago to edit eps 16+ samples files and do various conversions <-> WAV etc . I actually wrote about 90% of the code but stopped because (a) I only had a TS-10 so I could not reverse-engineer parameters properly and (b) the PC I was using got sold ! I now have access to a unix system with which I can continue the softwear ,but I would appreciate it if you could mail me some sample files (any format) with details like the sample rate , fine tune etc so I can work out the correct algorithm to convert it (the TS does not display this information) . Also , I would like to be able to convert CD-ROM files by reading them in a PC cd drive and putting them on an eps disk , but likewise , I need someone to send me a sample file copied direct off a cd-rom i.e. copy d:\sample.file c: if d: is your cd drive . I've spent alot of time writing this so far , and don't want to give up now , especially since I'm so close to completing it ; so come on , e-mail me a uuencoded sample file with parameter details . I will send a copy of the finished softwear to the 1st 10 replies - but it will probably be shareware at a low cost . Thanks in advance , Jon captain@csc.liv.ac.uk ------------------------------ From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:57:24 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: ASR10 SCSI question On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, Clint Todish wrote: > specification of SCSI-2 includes a mode called 'fast SCSI' which doubles the > transfer rate to 10mbs. Practially ANY SCSI drive will work well on So u mean to say if a HD doesn't speak SCSI II and u connect it to one(SCSI II) then the HD would still work but in normal SCSI mode?? Khew ------------------------------ From: STEPHEN BURKE Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 8:21:00 -0600 Subject: SCSI2/EPS16/PC Laptop OK. Call me a SCSI idiot, but I was wondering if it was possible to use my EPS-16+'s SCSI port to the SCSI2 port in my TI Notebook, and then use a formatted PCMIA hard disk/falsh disk formatted to EPS specs... Can this be done? I'm a PC die-hard, and don't use MACs when I can avoid it (even for music)... Also, can the EPS-TOOLS program read data from the SCSI port, or just the MIDI ports on a computer? Thanks. Steve *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* % T H I S S P A C E F O R R E N T : C O N T A C T B E L O W % %_________________________________________________________________________% % ! blame fairfield university % % sburke@kentlaw.edu ! for anything really odd I % % (fuck aol) ! may have written above... % ########################################################################### ------------------------------ From: Clint Todish Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 08:47:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: ASR10 SCSI question > > On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, Clint Todish wrote: > > > specification of SCSI-2 includes a mode called 'fast SCSI' which doubles the > > transfer rate to 10mbs. Practially ANY SCSI drive will work well on > > So u mean to say if a HD doesn't speak SCSI II and u connect it to > one(SCSI II) then the HD would still work but in normal SCSI mode?? > > Khew > > Yes, all SCSI devices are *supposed* to be compatible. There are very rare cases of different types of equipment not cooperating, but it's typically NOT the case. SCSI-1 & SCSI-2 devices will work together on either a SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 bus. Clint Todish ctodish@levelone.com ------------------------------ From: Walt Hubis Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 09:58:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: Eps 16+ Bank Load I have recently purchased an EPS16+ turbo, and have one problem. Perhaps someone here has a work-around: After powering up, the EPS will not respond to a load bank command from MIDI (aka, my sequencer). I must manually load the first bank. After that, MIDI bank loads work fine. Any thoughts on what I need to do to get it to work after power-on? Thanks.... Walt Hubis walthub@csn.org PS: I've got several 300mb SCSI disks formatted for the EPS16+ for sale - $75 each. E-Mail if you're interested. ------------------------------ From: Clint Todish Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:04:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: ASR10 SCSI question > > On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, Clint Todish wrote: > > > specification of SCSI-2 includes a mode called 'fast SCSI' which doubles the > > transfer rate to 10mbs. Practially ANY SCSI drive will work well on > > So u mean to say if a HD doesn't speak SCSI II and u connect it to > one(SCSI II) then the HD would still work but in normal SCSI mode?? > > Khew > > yes. ------------------------------ From: Paul Noble Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 13:36:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: help unsubscribing Sorry for having to post this here... Apparently since I subscribed to the eps list 2 years ago my mail address has changed from char.vnet.net to vnet.net. Although the char.vnet.net address is still valid the eps-request is picking up vnet.net thus it wont unsubscribe me. Could you please unsubscribe pauln@char.vnet.net. Thanks. PN ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 14:36:01 -0500 Subject: Re: How does one get ASR_SCSI? >Now supposedly this ASR_SCSI program is a 'free' one. If it is so, why is it >that no one can get a hold of it? Does one need to buy that Jupiter looping >utility in order to get it? Well, nobody said it was "free". Ensoniq "licensed" it to Jupiter for them to sell, and Jupiter is using it to pitch their own product. No one knows if that was an exclusive agreement, but Ensoniq says they "are not making available at this time". Ensoniq owns the copyright, and has licensed it to Jupiter to sell. And, yes, presently the way it is is to buy Jupiter, get ASR_SCSI. ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 14:50:05 -0500 Subject: Re: SCSI2/EPS16/PC Laptop >Also, can the EPS-TOOLS program read data from the SCSI port, or just the >MIDI ports on a computer? It will have that capability first quarter of 1995. SCSI-2 is backward compatible. That means you can use a SCSI-2 machine with 2 and 1 machines, but if you have a SCSI-1 machine, it won't perfrom up to SCSI-2 specs. The SCSI-2 will step down to adapt to the CSI-1 device. Garth/RCS ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 14:52:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Eps 16+ Bank Load >After powering up, the EPS will not respond to a load bank >command from MIDI (aka, my sequencer). I must manually load >the first bank. After that, MIDI bank loads work fine. Any >thoughts on what I need to do to get it to work after power-on? Only OS 1.3 will do the trick. That sounds bizarre. The hard drive/floppy has to be in the correct directory for it to load; are you doing that? Garth ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 14:18:45 -0600 (CST) Subject: Conversion... Does anyone have a good sound conversion program that has: .wav to .snd I have three converter programs, but here's the problem: I take a normal .snd, convert it to a .wav, works fine. Convert that .wav back to an .snd and its screws up. Any ideas? or better yet: does anyone have something that will extract wavesamples from a .gkh and turn them into .snds? There's a convert.exe here at oak.oakland.edu, but,unfortunately, it doesn't convert to .snds very well...sounds like static. (reason I need it is for getting waveforms from the EPS16+ to my Gravis Ultrasound for mods.) Thanks in advance. - -WireMan p.s. check out my new demo at oak.oakland.edu in /pub/eps/incoming ------------------------------ From: Clint Todish Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 14:51:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Eps 16+ Bank Load > > > PS: I've got several 300mb SCSI disks formatted for the EPS16+ for > sale - $75 each. E-Mail if you're interested. > Hell, for $75.00each I'll take them all! (If they work) Clint Todish ctodish@levelone.com > ------------------------------ From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 17:04:40 -0500 Subject: RE: Non-Waveboy Effect >...ESP microcode waas Ensoniq proprietary and NO ONE . . . was given any >chance to write effects for EPS/ARS boxes. Does anyone else make the effects chip for Ensoniq? If so, they might have programming manuals on it. Hacking out the code would probably be too tedious. Although it would be great to have tons of effects (& I hope it happens), that would make Ensoniq products more popular - and I'd hate to see Ensoniq benefit from countless hour of work which Ensoniq could have saved us if they weren't so selfish. (This is not meant to bash bob@ensoniq.com in any way.) /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark Schneider University of Florida | | mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu 904-335-6511(Voice)/4932(Fax/Modem) | \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/ << In Stereo Where Available >> ------------------------------ From: DNOSKI1@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:08:23 -0500 Subject: EPS/ASR10 help subscribe eps.read end ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 21:16:54 -0500 Subject: Re: How does one get ASR_SCSI? >That really sucks. Why can't Ensoniq/Jupiter System sell it to users if they need it >but don't need Infinity? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #188 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #189 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, 4 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 189 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Willoughby Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 20:39:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Stereo Smaples I cannot offer advice on the details of moving Instruments from the ASR-10 to the EPS 16-Plus, but I can say that true stereo playback has been possible since the EPS Classic. There was a set of disks in the Ensoniq series with true stereo, or holophonic, samples. The phase must not be a problem, because these binaural recordings relied on phase cues to trick the human ear/mind interface to perceive three-dimensional sounds. Judging from the EPS hardware, there are probably small phase delays between the channels, and also among the output expander channels. These phase delays would get smaller in time as the sample rate gets higher, so they would be more of a problem in 20-voice mode than in the 16- or 12-voice modes. These small phase delays should have more effect than moving one of your speakers by a few inches. | If you stereo-sampled something on the ASR-10, saved it to a | DS/DD, and loaded the files into a 16-Plus (and then panned each | layer hard left and hard right), would the sample remain in true | stereo? Would the two layers stay in phase, or is the 16-Plus not | able to exactly "sync" the two? In other words, is stereo-sampling | just related to sampling and not playback? I would say that the answer to your question is "yes." Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA ------------------------------ From: ctodish@levelone.com (Clint Todish) Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 21:41:05 +0600 Subject: EPS/ASR SCSI specs... does anyone out there have the specs for Ensoniq's SCSI layout (ie, block locations, naming formats, etc..) it would be interesting to see if a standard dos device driver could be written to support an EPS format disk. possibly, if the host adapters didn't collide address wise, you could use a pc host connection and EPS/ASR host connection simultaneously on the same HD...I've done this with multiple pc host connections and it's worked fine. this would allow both a computer and an EPS/ASR to access the same sound files at the same time. wow. let me know if someone out there has that info. Clint Todish / Level One Consulting ------------------------------ From: jesper@iss.se (Jesper Gummeson) Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 09:45:04 +0100 Subject: Re: EPS/ASR SCSI specs... Hello Clint! About a half year ago I asked for "Advanced midi specs" from Ensoniq (~20 pages). I just send a letter to customer service asking for it. This document includes SCSI info (commands are the same as the MIDI implementation). I'm sure it has been rewritten since then. Unfortunately I can't send you a copy of mine until after the weekend...but I think you should contact Ensoniq in any case. I really need a way to read SCSI harddisk's from my PC...since I dont own a MAC (i.e. can't use Terjes EPSm) or think that Ensoniq has been very clever the way they implemented the DAT backup option. So, please contact me for "beta" tests if you like... Best Regards /Jesper >does anyone out there have the specs for Ensoniq's SCSI layout (ie, block >locations, naming formats, etc..) > >it would be interesting to see if a standard dos device driver could be >written to support an EPS format disk. possibly, if the host adapters didn't >collide address wise, you could use a pc host connection and EPS/ASR host >connection simultaneously on the same HD...I've done this with multiple pc >host connections and it's worked fine. this would allow both a computer and >an EPS/ASR to access the same sound files at the same time. wow. > >let me know if someone out there has that info. > >Clint Todish / Level One Consulting > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ /\ Jesper Gummeson | email: jesper@iss.se /\/ \ Technical Support | Fax : +46 8-276620 /\/ \ \ Summit Scandinavia AB | Voice: +46 8-276670 ___________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: hardy@KMERL.Research.Panasonic.COM (Wesley hardy) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:44:52 EST Subject: Christian MIDI files... The following message is for musicians on the list that are interested in MIDI files of Christian music for use in live performance (church service, etc.) - ----- Begin Included Message ----- From ITMSJIM@aol.com Fri Nov 4 00:56:24 1994 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 00:57:30 -0500 From: ITMSJIM@aol.com Sender: ITMSJIM@aol.com To: em09@liverpool.ac.uk, hardy@KMERL.Research.Panasonic.COM Subject: Christian MIDI files... Content-Length: 789 Dear sirs, [See: ROLAND USERS GROUP MAGAZINE vol.12 no.2 (The Lion King issue,page 61); PIANO & KEYBOARD Magazine Nov/Dec '94 issue, page80 (review of our Oscar Peterson jazz disk and "Mighty Is Our God" contemporary Christian disk).] INVISIBLE TOUCH MUSIC SOFTWARE is in the process of sending our new fall catalogs this week. We support the following (directly with the manufacturers): Roland GS, YAMAHA Disklavier, Clavinova, Kurzweil Mark 10/150, General MIDI, (available in Mac or Dos disks). If you would like to get on our mailing list, E-mail your physical mailing address to America Online: ITMS Jim; CompuServe:72662,3075; or on the internet to: itmsjim@aol.com. If you don't feel like typing, phone or fax to 916*729-2653. Or write to P.O. Box 1651 Fair Oaks, CA 95628-1651. - ----- End Included Message ----- I know that there are at least a few TS guys on the list that use their keyboard in a church setting. The General MIDI files mentioned above could be of use. Please don't take this as an advertisement and flame me like some flamed Garth. Wesley Hardy, TS-12 Christian musician, arranger ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #189 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #190 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Saturday, 5 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 190 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean Francois Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 02:20:49 -0500 Subject: Infinity looping tool!!! If you're using Jupiter System's Infinity, please drop me a line at JBF@PIPELINE.COM I need some recommendations.. Thanks, ------------------------------ From: Steven Rowe Date: Sat, 05 Nov 94 10:33:47 EST Subject: file extention for the ASR10, what is it? I thought for a moment I could just copy the file dampkit1.gkh on the harddrive of my ibm compat. 286 to a disk without an extention (dampkit1.), but it was wishful thinking. But I'm still curious what the extention to the names able to be read by my ASR10 is. I know to use epswrite (or read?) to convert it (I've tried without success). Do I use this (at C:download prompt with my paths ok) [epswrite a:dampkit1] now that I have saved it on the ibm formatted disk without an extention? Steven Rowe, Philadelphia ------------------------------ From: fringers@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 10:47:06 -0800 Subject: epswrite Speaking of epswrite, is there a mac version? Where might I find it? Thanks-In-Advance Bryan M ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #190 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #191 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, 6 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 191 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 12:29:10 +0800 (SST) Subject: ASR Blues Ok,i've just upgraded my 10Meg ASR to 16 Megs. and now,suddenly,i can't seem to be able to sample anything!! After sampling and assign a note # to the sample,the machine crashes :-( with a "Reboot Error ...." I even tried a mono sample and it also crashes...heck,sometimes after booting it crashes!!! I'm using version 2.5 and booting off an 80 Meg HD with a CD-ROM 300+ connected to it. Everything was ok in the 10Meg version until i installed the 16Meg... Would anyone know what the problem is? Help please!! Khew ------------------------------ From: Christopher Gray Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 14:37:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Step By Step for the Novice Help!! I am new to downloading and especially downloading instruments. Would someone be so nice as to give me *step by step* instructions on how to properly download instruments from the oak.oakland.edu site. I run into problems when i go to my c: drive and try to unzip everything. Please tell me which files to get(besides the instruments and samples) and what to do with them once I've downloaded them to my C: drive. If something isn't supposed to be downloaded in binary mode, please let me know. thanks Chris Gray ------------------------------ From: fringers@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 17:23:17 -0800 Subject: Re: ASR Blues sounds like you simms weren't installed correctly which wouldn't give your sampler any RAM to even load the system.... Lottsa luck TheFringe ------------------------------ From: Michael Cowden Date: Sun, 06 Nov 1994 20:45:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: SAMPLING PROBLEM/PANNING ADVICE I have a couple of ASR-10 questions. 1. I often sample guitar/bass parts and loop them (or retrigger them) in my songs. I let the sequencer run and sample input dry or with fx. This should not be a problem, but occasionally (more than occasionally actually) I can hear the entire sequence or parts of the sequence underneath the sample at a low volume. I am using cakewalk pro 3.0 for windows. Is there a reason for this? 2. The ASR-10 allows you to do panning with many different controllers. However, you can atmost allow a controller to add +99 or -99 to pan. Is there a way to control panning from hard right to hard left, not simply from center to hard right or hard left exclusively? Can I use an external controller to control panning via cakewalk, the panning controller in cakewalk has no effect on the panning of the ASR's instruments. Any help would be appreciated Thanks, Mike ------------------------------ From: Laine Lee Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 19:50:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Step By Step for the Novice Download the FAQ if possible. A possible quick fix for your problem is to set the download file type to binary. Laine D. Lee llee@lonestar.utsa.edu ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #191 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #192 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, 7 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 192 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Giebler@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 02:42:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Thoughts on the Giebler s... Normally, we reply directly to the individuals involved, but in this case, information which is both incorrect and misleading has been posted here, and we want to set the record straight. Our software package for the TS10 works with the TS-12 as well. The TS-12 sequencer format is identical to the TS-10. TS10SMF can be used to convert General MIDI standard MIDI files into TS-10/TS-12 sequences. However, the user must load the General Midi sounds from their factory diskette into User Banks 0 and 1. This allows 120 of the 128 GM sounds to be used by the sequences. Generally, the last eight programs are seldom used for songs, but they can even be used by loading them into some other location that isn't used. We have added a GM-TS patch map to our distribution diskette to make the conversion even simpler. However, after reviewing our patch map editor, we find that there is nothing crippled or buggy about its operation. Bank selection (U0 - S9) is supported as well as every patch location in the TS-10 (TS-12). The conversion to the TS-10 is simple and fast. Most of the companies selling third-party sequences use our software to support the TS family. We apologize if this seems like advertising, but we couldn't allow incorrect information to go unanswered. We'll disappear back into the background now..... Anyone with questions can contact us at Giebler@AOL.COM >TS10SMF does allow you to 'make' you own map, but this part of the software is crippled >and buggy. For each bank and patch of the TS-12, there are 6 different sounds (e.g. R2-0 >is a set of 6 different piano flavors), and there is no way to specify which one you want to >be mapped to Instrument 1 of GM. In addition, the software has a bug that prevents you >from changing the bank selection (You can change a U0 to U1, but you can't change it to >R2). ------------------------------ From: djkc Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 03:50:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: SIMMs & Parity Hi. I know ASR's have non-parity SIMMs in them, but when adding memory, does it matter if I use SIMMs with parity?? Parity SIMMs are cheaper and easier to come by around here. Would the parity chip get in the way, slow it down, or not work at all? Thanks, - -djkc - -- You sell yourself short if you believe that you O \/ are only a physical organism living within the #|_ (_| boundaries cast upon you by time and space. _###\.______| |_ ------------------------------ From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 00:10:42 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: ASR Blues On Sun, 6 Nov 1994 fringers@cats.ucsc.edu wrote: > sounds like you simms weren't installed correctly which wouldn't > give your sampler any RAM to even load the system.... > That's the thing! I can boot off my 80Meg HD using version 2.5 OS. And b4 closing up,i made sure the SIMMS were seated and in the right position with everything locking into place. Unless,it's bad SIMMS? Khew ------------------------------ From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 00:22:47 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: SIMMs & Parity On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, djkc wrote: > Hi. I know ASR's have non-parity SIMMs in them, but when adding memory, does > it matter if I use SIMMs with parity?? > Parity SIMMs are cheaper and easier to come by around here. > Would the parity chip get in the way, slow it down, or not work at all? > As we all know(and read) in the owners manual of the ASR,it says not to use parity SIMMS as "serious damage" could occur to both SIMMS and the ASR. My dealer actually INSTALLS parity SIMMS and so far no problems...it behaves as any normal ASR's do....crashes every now and then,produces GREAT techno sounds,etc,etc...:-O Khew ------------------------------ From: Steven Rowe Date: Mon, 07 Nov 94 17:02:46 EST Subject: program too big to fit in memory = epswrite.exe & *.gkh My 286 ibm compat. has 640K RAM. When I run epsread.exe (after formatting my DS/DD disk with my ASR10 to Ensoniq format and placing it in my computer's disk drive) I get the message 'PROGRAM TOO BIG TO FIT IN MEMORY'. I'm assuming both the epsread.exe file and the dampkit2.gkh file that I'm trying to transfer have to fit into RAM at the same time. If this is true, I need to invest in more RAM. Can anyone confirm this? In the meantime, what is the shortest sample I can download that might fit with the epsread.exe file in my RAM? Steven Rowe Philadelphia (Thanks for helping me get this far, everyone.) ------------------------------ From: STEPHEN BURKE Date: Mon, 7 Nov 94 17:40:00 -0600 Subject: Computer to MIDI adapter. does anyone outin EPS land know where I can get a computer MIDI (15 pin squarish) to standard MIDI (round 5-pin)? Alternately, what wire assignments on the computer MIDI port (e.g, soundblaster compatable) correspond to the wires on a standard MIDI port? I know it's kinda off the topic, but I really want to try the EPS Tools I D?L'd! steve *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* % Y O U R A D H E R E ! ! ! C H E A P ! ! ! % %_________________________________________________________________________% % | blame fairfield university % % sburke@kentlaw.edu | for anything really odd I % % | may have written above... % ########################################################################### ------------------------------ From: fringers@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 16:15:49 -0800 Subject: Re: ASR Blues you got me. now I haven't got a clue :( ------------------------------ From: Elson "?" Trinidad Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 19:01:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: YEAHOOOOO!!!!! YEAAAAHHHHOOO!!!! After months and months of procrastinating, I *finally* performed the Service Bulletin 12/Anti-Error 144 mod on my EPS... NOT a single crash yet! It got real bad this weekend after a gig (I didn't use the EPS @ the gig though, as it was unreliable), when I was rearranging my studio and was getting real annoyed at my EPS failing the keyboard tests. As a temporary remedy, I'd give the unit a smack on the underside, which would generally let the keyboard tuning test pass, yet crash on me later. So I decided to follow Mark Pulver's advice and do the mod myself (As I called my local Ensoniq repair shop, who gave me a $180 estimate on the job. Cost me $5 (for the allen wrench set) and a couple hours. > Do yourself a favor and do the "Keyboard Engineering Mod" that takes care > of the sporadic 144 reboot errors. (These aren't the ones from MIDI > The root of the problem here is that there're a pair of circuit boards > under the keyboard of the EPS. These boards are connected by a flexible > ribbon cable which is attached to the boards via Molex connectors. Now here is where I got lost. My EPS is about 5 1/2 years old, bought June 89 (as a high school graduation present :)) and does not have any such ribbon cable, but rather a couple of brown connectors that bridge the gap betwen the circuit boards. > 1) start by pulling out a 1/2 octave of keys on either side of middle C. Here's my advice on removing keys from your EPS: 1) Use a long-nose plier and pull out the key spring from the top and bend it away from the keyboard. It should pop out cleanly. PLEASE keep these springs in a plastic cup or other receptacle! 2) You also have to remove the disk drive/wheel section of the EPS to take out the keyboard and remove the keys. This is not hard. Simply remove the 2 screws behind the disk drive on the rear panel and the two similar screws on the underside. 3) To remove the keys, firmply push the key in from where the spring was and have it snap off from the tab (don't break the tab though!) This is not that hard to do. Once you've done that, take out the entire keyboard section, and simply pull the keys out forward. > (This is done by first removing the wooden keeper/trim piece at the rim > of the case. Do that by pulling 8 screws across the very front of the > underside of the case. The screws more towards the middle are for the > physical keyboard. Once that trim is out, pull the springs off of the > back of the keys, then work the plastic key tops out from the keyboard. > Know that if the keyboard is physically removed from the case, because > you're doing the ROM upgrade, then this is a breeze to do.) > 2) Look down from the top of the keyboard. You should see two circuit > boards connected with a ribbon cable with crimp on molex connectors on > the end of the ribbon. This is the problem spot that's causing the > errors. I did not see such a thing, but I do see the division between the circuit boards, and 12 pairs of pins sticking out, each surrounded by solder. Simply (and carefully) solder one wire to one pin, and solder the other side of the wire to the pin on the opposite side. Use thin, flexible wire and make sure the wire mass isn't stacked high especially in the top half of the pin set - that is where the space between the bottom of the key and the top of the circuit board is the smallest. > 3) The main objective here is to circumvent this jumper ribbon with a > soldered cable. You can do this a couple of different ways... > > a) use a length of ribbon cable > b) use individual lengths of wire > > Either is okay, but obviously the ribbon is cleaner. > > 4) Leave the present cable connected, there's no real reason to pull it. > Cut either a length of ribbon cable or individual wires to a length of > about 4". Don't make 'em too long, as you'll have problems stopping them > from snaging on the keyboard mechanism. > > 5) Strip and tin the ends of the ribbon/wires > > 6) One by one, solder the strands of the ribbon or the wires to where > the present ribbon connects at the circuit board. Don't solder straight > to the molex pins, solder to the pads on the boards. > > 7) Run the wires close and tight to the board and across to the other > side. > > 8) Solder the wires in a straight-through fashion to the relative pads > on the other side. One-to-one, top-to-bottom, don't cross 'em up. > > 9) Button everything back up, put the keys back on, put the springs back > on, put the keyboard back in, don't forget the trim piece, and that's > about it... Make sure that you don't snag your new wiring on the key > mechanism. To place the keys back in, keep in mind this: Use the key name markings as a guide. (E7, etc). All the Ds, Es, Fs, Gs, As and Bs are the same. If you do decide to remove all the keys (which I did in order to clean all that dust and junk under the keys), keep in mind that the last C (C8) is different than the rest of the Cs. Also, all the black keys are the same, so it doesn't matter where you place them. Remember to place all the black keys in first. They are easy to place without tracing the scale of the keyboard: The naked keyboard mechanism (without the keys) have rubber ends on the bottom. The white keys have two ends (one on top of the other) and the black keys have one end. To place the key back, simply fit in the key from the rubber end, and push down on the tab, and it's in. To place the springs back, use longnosed pliers again, and grip the "rim" end of the spring, while fitting the "bulge" in at the bottom. Pull up on the spring, and pusk it into its receptacle. Once it's there slowly contract the spring down and let go. Thanks again Mark for the advice! Elson Happy EPS owner ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #192 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #193 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, 8 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 193 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thammer@marin.unit.no Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:07:20 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: Computer to MIDI adapter. > > does anyone outin EPS land know where I can get a computer MIDI (15 pin > squarish) to standard MIDI (round 5-pin)? You need a converter thing, which in Norway might cost around $100. I do not know what this converter does, nor do I have one ;-) > > Alternately, what wire assignments on the computer MIDI port (e.g, > soundblaster compatable) correspond to the wires on a standard MIDI port? > I think some electronic parts are needed. > I know it's kinda off the topic, but I really want to try the EPS Tools I > D?L'd! > > steve > Thomas thammer@marina.unit.no ------------------------------ From: Mark Pulver Date: Tue, 08 Nov 94 10:30:06 CST Subject: Re: YEAHOOOOO!!!!! Text item: Re: YEAHOOOOO!!!!! [Lots of great clarifications deleted...] >> Thanks again Mark for the advice! Dude, no probs man! I'm glad it worked out for ya'... Thanks for making the clarifications for what you found. It looks like Ensoniq may of had a couple of revs of the keyboard assembly through the years. Welcome to the world lacking of 144s!!! Now, if only something could be done about the EPS randomly crashing on sysex pass-throughs! ------------------------------ From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 00:44:28 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: ASR Blues Ok here's the latest update on my ASR problems... I swapped the SIMMS around a few times,u know,2X4Meg + 2X1Meg,4X4Meg,etc,etc.... The conclusion? The ASR CANNOT address 10MEg and 16Megs reliably!! I switched back to the original 2MEg,works ok...the I could even sample without and of those annoying "pop and crackle" noises that usually comes with the sample in a 10Meg or 16Meg system. I switched it to 4X1Meg and eveything works perfectly..no crashes,no "pop/crackle"..looks like that's the most my ASR can take without giving any sonically unwanted noises. So my current system has turned to a 4Meg ASR with 80Meg HD and a CD-ROM drive...*boo* :-( What happened to my 4X4Meg?? Well,my Mac IIci has 20Meg of RAM now instead of 8Meg a few days ago.....:-P Khew ------------------------------ From: Kon Wilms Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:40:58 SADT Subject: NEW TRACKS ON EPS After getting eternally bored I decided to up some stuff to oak. Move On baby remix (you need 4Mb ram) MOVEON1-3 Sledgehammer (the FULL tune, not 2 seconds) En-joy. :) You'll need an ASR/ts for the Moveon I think... Later Kon C/s Dept, PE Technikon, South Africa ------------------------------ From: z@acs.bu.edu (Paul Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 16:56:07 -0500 Subject: FS, WTB, WT Trade SCSI & 4x Expander I own a PS Systems 4x Memory Expander, and I want to get a SCSI interface. Today I called PS Systems and they're out of the memory business! So, if there is anyone out there who a) has an Ensoniq 4x Memory Expander and doesn't ever want to use SCSI, I'll pay you to trade with me, b) wants to buy a PS Systems 4x Memory Expander for cheap and doesn't ever want to use SCSI, c) has an Ensoniq 4x Memory Expander they're selling for $100 in great shape d) has some alternative they'd share with me other than buying both pieces for $500, or e) has a PS Systems SCSI thing-a-ma-jig for sale, feel free to help me :) Thank You!! Paul ______________________________________________________________________________ |~ |.---. .'_____`. /\ |~xxxxx~| || |_ # _| || .------`-#-'-----. (___|\_________/|_.`. May the Force Be With You, Always / | _________ | | | / |/ _|_ \| | | / /X| __|__ |/ `.| Paul Rodriguez ( --< \\/ _\//|_ |`. Boston University `. ~----.-~=====,:======= z@acs.bu.edu ~-._____/___:__(``/| | | | XX|~ | | ------------------------------ From: Mark Knutsen Date: Tue, 8 Nov 94 21:15:51 EST Subject: FOR SALE: EPS 16+ rackmount w/SCSI (2nd and final post) This is the second and last time I'll post this to the list: I've come to the conclusion that I have neither the time nor the inclination to invest in sampling, and perhaps the 16+ I bought recently would be of better service in someone else's studio. This is the rackmount unit, and it has the SCSI option installed. It has a good-sized sound library, sustain pedal, and owner's manuals for both the unit AND the SCSI option. I can even transfer my new Transoniq Hacker subscription to you, the lucky buyer. I haven't posted this ad anywhere else yet; you guys get first dibs. Asking $1200 COD, and I'll pay shipping within the continental USA. - - - =============================================================================== Mark Knutsen, now located in Stamford, CT. Same old email address: knutsen@pilot.njin.net OR knutsen@pilot.rutgers.edu OR {...}!rutgers!knutsen ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #193 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #194 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, 9 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 194 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOREYLC@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 06:58:53 -0600 (CST) Subject: TS-10 MIDI Help! My ex-wife threw out all my manuals and I can't seem to trial and error this one out. Is there a way to assign sounds to MIDI channels? Conversely, does anyone know a translation of TS sounds to GM standard patch numbers? Although in my software thant I'm working with, it seems that only changing the MDIDI channel has an effect on sound selection-- changing the patch number doesn't seem to do a thing. Thanks, all! LM ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 08:07:29 -0500 Subject: ASR Boos > The ASR CANNOT address 10MEg and 16Megs reliably!! Please rephrase. {"Your" ASR CANNOT address 10MEg and 16Megs reliably!!} Take it into a shop - you probably have a mainboard or a SIMM problem. Did you change the jumper when inserted the extra SIMMS? >I own a PS Systems 4x Memory Expander, and I want to get a SCSI interface. >Today I called PS Systems and they're out of the memory business! So, if >there is anyone out there who a) has an Ensoniq 4x Memory Expander and .doesn't ever want to use SCSI, I'll pay you to trade with me, b) wants to> >buy a PS Systems 4x Memory Expander for cheap and doesn't ever want to use >SCSI, c) has an Ensoniq 4x Memory Expander they're selling for $100 in >great shape d) has some alternative they'd share with me other than buying >both pieces for $500, or e) has a PS Systems SCSI thing-a-ma-jig for sale, >feel free to help me :) Thank You!! How did you call PS Systems? They are out of business. Did you call GreytSounds? Is their new GreatRam/SCSI stuff compatible with the old PS Systems stuff? I thought it was. The GreatRam people are the old engineers from PS Systems. Or did you call Sound Logic? Last I understood, they were buying back old PS System stock from around the world and every so often they got stuff in. Garth/RCS ------------------------------ From: hardy@KMERL.Research.Panasonic.COM (Wesley hardy) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 09:01:58 EST Subject: Re: TS-10 MIDI > From owner-eps@oak.oakland.edu Wed Nov 9 08:53:21 1994 > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 06:58:53 -0600 (CST) > From: MOREYLC@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu > Subject: TS-10 MIDI > To: eps@oak.oakland.edu > X-Vms-To: IN%"eps@oak.oakland.edu" > > Help! My ex-wife threw out all my manuals and I can't seem to trial and > error this one out. Is there a way to assign sounds to MIDI channels? > Conversely, does anyone know a translation of TS sounds to GM standard > patch numbers? Although in my software thant I'm working with, it seems > that only changing the MDIDI channel has an effect on sound selection-- > changing the patch number doesn't seem to do a thing. > > Thanks, all! > > LM > A new manual from Ensoniq costs $10. Try stepping thru the screens with the SYSTEM button or screens with the MIDI button (track parameters button group) to find something indicating that program changes over MIDI is disabled. If I had my manual with me I could do better. my .02, Wesley Hardy, TS-12 ------------------------------ From: bekraft@students.wisc.edu (Benjamin Kraft) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 12:25:14 -0600 Subject: Re: TS-10 MIDI >Help! My ex-wife threw out all my manuals and I can't seem to trial and >error this one out. Is there a way to assign sounds to MIDI channels? >Conversely, does anyone know a translation of TS sounds to GM standard >patch numbers? Although in my software thant I'm working with, it seems >that only changing the MDIDI channel has an effect on sound selection-- >changing the patch number doesn't seem to do a thing. > >Thanks, all! > >LM There is an easy way of making your TS-10 General MIDI. As you may know, the newest TS-10s are General MIDI compatible, and so now there is a GM kit that can be installed in your machine. It retails for only $99, but can only be installed by an Ensoniq authorized service dealer ( it requires the modification of the main board as well as some swapping of chips). Good luck! Ben Kraft Kraft Music & Computers bekraft@students.wisc.edu ------------------------------ From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 02:53:18 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: ASR Boos On Wed, 9 Nov 1994 ChickenEPS@aol.com wrote: > Please rephrase. {"Your" ASR CANNOT address 10MEg and 16Megs reliably!!} > Take it into a shop - you probably have a mainboard or a SIMM problem. Did > you change the jumper when inserted the extra SIMMS? As i said,the 2Megs and 4Megs works fine!! I'm using all 16Megs on my Mac IIci now and no problems...so could it still be mainboard OR simms problem??! Khew ------------------------------ From: happy@eden.com Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 14:06:06 -0600 Subject: ASR10 Midi Controller I really like the feel of the keys on my ASR10. I decided that I wanted to use it as my MIDI controller. I searched thru the manual and found that it's not as easy as just turning local off. I jumped thru all the hoops the manual described and saved my global paramaters to disk so I wouldn't have to do it again. Everything worked ok, I could play my other gear in Cakewalk and could play my ASR10 in multi mode. When I turned it off and turned it back on, I loaded the global parameters, it didn't work like it did before. I can't access my other gear. Also, is the foot switch switch only assignable to midi channel 7, I tried to change it but couldn't. Vince. ------------------------------ From: Michael Cowden Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 13:10:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARABIAN PITCH TABLES ? Does anyone have Arabian pitch tables for the ASR-10, or know the values (semitone & cents) I'd need to use to create one? Thanks, Mike ------------------------------ From: p2081658@cumulus.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Rodney Berry) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:49:08 +1000 Subject: Xenharmonic Scales Disk Hi all! I have just uploaded a copy (with his permission) of Gary Morrison's "EPS Xenharmonic Scales Disk". I've been messing with it for a while and it's, in my humble opinion, mindblowing! It includes heaps of different pitch tables and some very nice example instruments (including a lovely English Horn/Oboe that someone mentioned recently they wanted ja?). One instrument consists of a nice clean sinewave tuned to the harmonic series on C. One thing I really recomend to WaveBoy users is to try this with the FM-FX algorithm for some filthy and elegant sounds or without for keyboard-controlled additive synthesis (on one note however so don't sell that DX7 yet!) Could any keen 'detwelvulators' out there (Hi Bill! ;-] ) please download this and tell me if it came out alright? Below is Gary's README file for the disk, his booklet is abolutely brilliant and well worth sending him $5 for. Also a book called TUNING IN by Scott R. Wilkinson (1988 Hal Leonard Books ISBN 0-88188-633-5) I found very useful in learning about microtuning on synths. Enjoy! Jump off those black and white keys and into the cracks Yahoooooo! *splash* Rod Berry p2081658@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >From: garym@rex.sps.mot.com (Gary Morrison) > This EPS disk image contains a many historical and creative new pitch >tables. They are contained in otherwise blank instrument definitions, >and you can "Cmd:Pitch:Copy Pitch Table" them to your favorite instru- >ments. It also contains a few instruments appropriate for some of these >tunings. > This "EPS Xenharmonic Scales Disk" has an associated 30-some-odd page >write-up with ample illustrations of the tuning concepts involved. I >recommend it highly. If you would like a copy of it, send $5 (US) to: > Gary Morrison > 13036 Staton Drive > Austin, Texas 78727-4513 > USA >The $5 is just to cover duplication and mailing costs; I'm not making >money on this (ya hear that Mr. IRS?). > I STRONGLY recommend that you get the notes from me the disk makes >very little sense without them, and they contain a lot of valuable general >information on tuning concepts. ------------------------------ From: Mark O'Shea Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:04:24 TZ Subject: scEPSi equivalent on PC? Hi all Is there a PC based equivalent of scEPSi? could replies please be cc:d to me, i'm not on the list. could i please be added to the list as well regards Mark ------------------------------ From: swatch@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Brian Plume) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:22:19 PST Subject: Panning. Hi there. This is the first time I've written to the newsgroup. I have an ASR-10, and lemme first say that it is INCREDIBLE. I use Cubase for the Mac, and I am trying to set up PANNING for each instrument in the Mixer Maps. I can't seem to get it to werk. Do I have to change something in the instrument edit screen on the ASR first? I think I got it to werk ONE time, but I forget how I did it. Isn't that always the way?!?! hehehe Thanx in advance. ALSO, is there any way to speed up the process it takes to do the time compress/expand feature? I mean, I know of setting the quality to 0, but even THAT takes a while. Is there a faster chip or something I can buy to speed this up? Brian Do you have anything in common with me? Here's what I like: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-= Volkswagens Art of Noise Pepsi Porsches Kraftwerk Johnny Rockets German language Depeche Mode The Cure Girls (16-26) Public Enemy Computers/Electronics Rave/Techno Music Vans(tm) Shoes Swatch watches Classical music Beethoven Albert Einstein Benjamin Franklin R & B/Soul Music Merrie Melodie Toons Keith Haring Neuspeed Equipment Roland Synthesizers =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Internet: Swatch@pro-nsdapple.cts.com ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #194 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #195 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Thursday, 10 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 195 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott W. Gurley" Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 00:08:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: eps-digest V1 #193 OK, I guess this really doesn't belong here but it's such a simple question, I thought I'd ask. I currently need a mixer but student loans are due and I'm out of money. So I was think of using my four track as a stereo mixer: I have four instruments (master is a classicEPS) to mix. Does anyone know if I can just buy some y-cords from RadioShack and run the left out of two instruments into channel 1. The right into 2. The left from the other two instruments into 3 and the right from those instruments into 4? Instrument 1 2 3 4 L R R L R L L R | \ / | | \ / | | \ / | | \ / | | \ / | | \ / | | \ / | | \ / | | \/ | | \/ | *n*= | \ | | *3* | Four | *1* | | | Track \______________/ \______________\___*4* Channels | *2* Any ideas? Could I do this with either the headphone outs or the line outs? Will the ouput amps blow eachother up after time? Any more noise? Thanks all you eps'ers and special thanks to Terje for EPSm (yes I paid my shareware fee!) - -scott g Scott Gurley (swg3@cec.wustl.edu) - ----------------------------------------------------------- BA Physics, BA Music, BS Electrical Engineering Remember: Macs = Buy->Plug->Play IBMs = Buy->Plug->Conflict->Repeat ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 08:12:35 -0500 Subject: ASR Boos & MIDI Khew sez... >As i said,the 2Megs and 4Megs works fine!! I'm using all 16Megs on my Mac >IIci now and no problems...so could it still be mainboard OR simms problem??! Sure. Possibilities: What speed are your 4-meg SIMMS? If they are greater than 80ns then you have problems. Also, also theoretically some may disagree, but if you r 4meg SIMMS spreed doesn't match your 1meg SIMMS speed, you might have problems. (I've heard problems like this solved by matching speeds on the T-Net.) Also, the MacIIci is a relatively older computer, and may not put the strain or the checks on the SIMM's to show their deficiencies. Or you might have a mainboard problem. Again, why not go into a shop and either A)have the tech people test your ASR or SIMM's with a pro test device. You may be able to test the SIMM's at a computer shop as well. At the music store you may, if they let you, have them put your SIMM's in another ASR to see if they foul up there. And also, you could exchange the 4meg SIMM's for new ones, just to troubleshoot. That would determine if the problem really is the SIMM's. Happy sez... >I really like the feel of the keys on my ASR10. I decided that I wanted to >use it as my MIDI controller. I searched thru the manual and found that >it's not as easy as just turning local off. I jumped thru all the hoops the >manual described and saved my global paramaters to disk so I wouldn't have >to do it again. Everything worked ok, I could play my other gear in >Cakewalk and could play my ASR10 in multi mode. When I turned it off and >turned it back on, I loaded the global parameters, it didn't work like it >did before. I can't access my other gear. Most of the MIDI OUT parameters are determined within an instrument, which is saved within an instrument rather that the Global parameters. Check the manual about what it says about "MIDI Instruments". Create a MIDI instrument, set the MIDI channel to whatever and MIDI program change to whatever, save the instrument and perhaps save a bank. You'll need to load this after you turn on the ASR. And.... >Is there a PC based equivalent of scEPSi? No, there isn't; however Giebler is working on a SCSI implementation to his program and it would enable looking into a hard drive; as for features, we don't know yet. Garth/RCS ------------------------------ From: Wade Tsai Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 7:01:41 CST Subject: SQR Plus Does anyone know what is the current software revision level for the SQR Plus? (SQ-2 rackmount I believe it was) Or is it an extinct box? Thanks, Wade... ------------------------------ From: Jason Priebe Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 08:33:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: ARABIAN PITCH TABLES ? > Does anyone have Arabian pitch tables for the ASR-10, or know the values > (semitone & cents) I'd need to use to create one? > > Thanks, > Mike Try looking in Terje's tuning file at oak. /pub/eps/docs/Tunings.txt.Z Send me email if you don't have ftp access, and I'll send you the file. - -Jason `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`, `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,if`you`ask`no,questions,then`beware,of`lies,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`, `jason`priebe,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,priebe@cs.unc.edu, `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`, ------------------------------ From: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:59:57 +0100 Subject: Re: ARABIAN PITCH TABLES ? >> Does anyone have Arabian pitch tables for the ASR-10, or know the values >> (semitone & cents) I'd need to use to create one? Jason replied: > Try looking in Terje's tuning file at oak. > /pub/eps/docs/Tunings.txt.Z There are 6-7 different arabic scales in that file. ( by 1/2-tones and cents) And the file reference was Jason's main point. I just want to make sure the credit goes to David Whittemore, for uploading and making the file that Jason refer to. David calculated all those semitones and cents. I only supplied the scales as ratios with instructions how to calculate the cents in a mail to the eps-list. David made that much more useful to most. Why did those arabic scales end up like that? Has it anything to do with belly dancing?. Or the other way around? ? Terje ------------------------------ From: davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:59:35 -0500 Subject: HELP! SCSI problems... HOPEFULLY soneone can help me!!!! I have a PS Systems 44-meg removeable hard drive (syquest 555) connected to my (BRAND NEW!!!) ASR-10 with factory installed SCSI. When I try to format a 44-meg cart it begins to format...but later get a FILE OPERATION ERROR...I was having the same problem when it was connected to my old EPS! I thought an ASR-10 would solve my problems... I suspect a termination problem...what does this error tell me? I am considering turning off the internal terminators in the hard drive and adding an external terminator at the drive's SCSI connector. I had been trying different termination strategies with my EPS...could I have burned-out a termination resistor pack? Has anyone tried using an external ACTIVE terminator? I have tried two different SCSI cables...no improvement. An extra clue...when I first connected my drive to my new EPS I kept getting SCSI DEVICE NOT FOUND (or some message like that)...so I turned all the DIP switches in the drive off and then switched them back to the proper position...then the ASR-10 saw the SCSI device (dirty switches?)... what a nightmare.... There are also DIP switches on the hard drive for parity and reset... I have these OFF. Any suggestions?!?!?! TAD davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com P.S. Of course now PS Systems is out of business.... ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 14:35:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Y-mixers On Thu, 10 Nov 1994, Scott W. Gurley wrote: > OK, I guess this really doesn't belong here but it's such a simple > question, I thought I'd ask. > > I currently need a mixer but student loans are due and I'm out of money. > So I was think of using my four track as a stereo mixer: I have four > instruments (master is a classicEPS) to mix. Does anyone know if I can > just buy some y-cords from RadioShack and run the left out of two > instruments into channel 1. The right into 2. The left from the other two > instruments into 3 and the right from those instruments into 4? Yes. I don't have a mixer and do you know what I use? EPS-16 PLUS (notice I list it first!) Yamaha V50 Yamaha TG33 Yamaha TQ5 Yamaha EMP-100 with a Gravis Ultrasnd (from a PC) (All are stereo devices) That is a total of 10 lines into two channels! My amp is a regular household Sony Stereo amplifier, and everything goes to the CD port of the Sony amp. And it costs me about $40.00---not a bad price for a mixer! So yes, you can use y-splitters/mixers....BUT... you: 1: Cannot Equalize the signals without a seperate equalizer 2: Risk that the lines may be unbalanced, and therefore (I guess) one unit may be too powerful 3: Lose line signal power, i.e. with each additional unit, the signal becomes weaker 4: Stereo bleeds through (sometimes) to the opposite channel (left sometimes is heard on the right.) If you are like me and don't really care about most of those things, or get lucky like me and the signals balance, then go for it! I can usually get really decent recordings out of my system. ...And don't let that guy at Radio Shack tell you it won't work... because it will. - -WireMan "They're wrong! They're all wrong!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |Standard Disclaimer: | |All text in this article have ONLY been tested on the above said | |equipment. I will not be held liable for damaged equipment, blown | |fuses or chips, heart-ache, pain and suffering, or other unexpected | |outcomes resulting from the use of knowledge from this article. | - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:08:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: L error ------------------------------ From: mccarthy@mprgate.mpr.ca (Chad McCarthy) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 15:41:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Y-mixers. Forwarded message: > On Thu, 10 Nov 1994, Scott W. Gurley wrote: > > instruments (master is a classicEPS) to mix. Does anyone know if I can > > just buy some y-cords from RadioShack and run the left out of two > > instruments into channel 1. The right into 2. The left from the other two > > instruments into 3 and the right from those instruments into 4? > > Yes. I don't have a mixer and do you know what I use? > > EPS-16 PLUS (notice I list it first!) > Yamaha V50 > Yamaha TG33 > Yamaha TQ5 > Yamaha EMP-100 with a Gravis Ultrasnd (from a PC) > (All are stereo devices) > > That is a total of 10 lines into two channels! > My amp is a regular household Sony Stereo amplifier, and everything goes to > the CD port of the Sony amp. And it costs me about $40.00---not a bad price > for a mixer! Can I suggest that you be REALLY careful when you play around with the Y-cables. The above equipment is all good quality and probably has the proper protection circuitry etc. to prevent itself from harm. But I don't think anyone has designed an output stage with the thought that people will be using Y-cables on it. And you sure as heck wouldn't get warranty money if something did go wrong. Personally, I think a low quality, el cheapo mixer (a la old Realistic from Radio Shack, might cost a few ten-dollar bills) is a better investment than using Y-chords which might blow up your hundreds/thousands of dollars worth of equipment. You could even sacrifice your stereo image for mono if you need to buy a really small mixer (1/2 as many channels). But hey, if the Y-chords work, who can say you're wrong to use them? Just my $0.02. Chad. ------------------------------ From: Michael Hyman Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 19:27:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Y-mixers and SIMMs On Thu, 10 Nov 1994, Benjamin P. Solomon wrote: > So yes, you can use y-splitters [for] mixers. If I may chime in here, it's not a very good idea to connect 2 (or more) live audio outputs together with raw wire. I take that back - it can be a good idea if your intention is to damage the output preamps of your devices. Seriously, this is *not* recommended, and you could wind up damaging your EPS/ASR. And while I'm writing about things you shouldn't do to your ASR: it's not a good idea to install 9-bit SIMMs in your ASR. The 9-bit SIMMs may be easier to purchase, but if you use them, they can cause damage to the ASR-10. They put an extra drain on the power supply and increase the heat generated. In my personal experience, 8-bit SIMMs are easy to locate and purchase, and do not cost any more than 9-bit parity SIMMs. - Mike (mikeh@netaxs.com) ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #195 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #196 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Friday, 11 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 196 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marin.Ohlsson@ki.ericsson.se (Martin Ohlsson) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 94 08:11:40 +0100 Subject: Re: Y-mixers. I recall reading an article in Keyboard som years ago about how to build a passive mixer using resistors. It would take som time to go through all mags so does anyone remember? Ha en bra dag /Martin ------------------------------ From: g.leone@genie.geis.com Date: Fri, 11 Nov 94 13:56:00 UTC Subject: Passive mixer I've got a very short article about building a passive (meaning: non-powered) mixer that I got from a music-related electronic bulletin board. Would it help to upload it here? (I can't remember who originally raised the question about the y-cables.) -Gerry g.leone@genie.geis.com ~+~+~+~~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Profesional driver on closed test track. ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~ ------------------------------ From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 00:40:32 +0800 (SST) Subject: Re: ASR Boos & MIDI On Thu, 10 Nov 1994 ChickenEPS@aol.com wrote: > Again, why not go into a shop and either A)have the tech people test your ASR > or SIMM's with a pro test device. You may be able to test the SIMM's at a > computer shop as well. At the music store you may, if they let you, have them > put your SIMM's in another ASR to see if they foul up there. And also, you > could exchange the 4meg SIMM's for new ones, just to troubleshoot. That would > determine if the problem really is the SIMM's. Sounds like the speed thing might be something to look at! Thanks for the suggestions! :-) Khew ------------------------------ From: ttruong@cp10.es.xerox.com (Ton H. Truong) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 10:44:05 PST Subject: Re: Thoughts on Giebler software Sorry for wasting bandwidth, but I feel compelled to give credit where credit is due. In a previous note, I expressed my frustration on the TS10SMF (Program that convers Standard Midi File to/from Ensoniq sequence format), and Gary has since helped me understand how to use the program thru private email. Never thought I would eat my words in public!! Now I have an Ensoniq question: For some reason, on some Midi sequences intended for the Sound Canvas, all Program Changes are interpreted by the TS-12 as program changes to channel 1 only (and thus screw up the instrument assignment). This behavior happens both thru direct recording, and thru the conversion thru the Giebler TS10SMF software. Changing the Midi base channel does not seem to affect this behavior. With apologies (and thanks in advance to you guys), //TT ------------------------------ From: Christopher Gray Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 14:10:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Downloading from Oak I tried to download some instruments and samples from oak.oakland.edu and got 'bad fat signature' and 'corrupt disk file' on my asr10 when i tried to load the instruments.. Should I format the diskettes using the program available for pcs or should formatting my diskettes on the asr work also? ============================================================== Chris Gray | "Why are Blak People in Amerikkka so afraid grayc@iia.org | of Allah and Islam???" K. Shabazz Muhammad ============================================================== ------------------------------ From: "Everett Howell" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 11:44:11 +0000 Subject: Re: Downloading from Oak > From: Christopher Gray > To: EPS alias > Subject: Downloading from Oak > I tried to download some instruments and samples from oak.oakland.edu > and got 'bad fat signature' and 'corrupt disk file' on my asr10 when i > tried to load the instruments.. Should I format the diskettes using the > program available for pcs or should formatting my diskettes on the asr > work also? Have done it both ways, and both work... although disks formatted on the pc step much faster. I'm using epsdisk to format all my eps disks now, due to the increased step rate. I've gotten the 'corrupt disk file' error on some downloads as well, but most seem to work. Suspect that they are actually corrupt before I ever get them. ******************* *Longhaul@aloha.com *See ya. ******************* ------------------------------ From: "Christopher M. Sevanick" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 94 16:40 EST Subject: Audio noise???? I seem to have a reoccuring problem with noise emanating from the L and R audio of my EPS. Sometimes, I do not have a problem and other times, the noise is loud enough to be annoying. This problem was happening this summer and then disappeared only to reappear today. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me. Thanks, Chris ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:54:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Y-mixers. On Thu, 10 Nov 1994, Chad McCarthy wrote: > Can I suggest that you be REALLY careful when you play around with the > Y-cables. The above equipment is all good quality and probably has the > proper protection circuitry etc. to prevent itself from harm. But I > don't think anyone has designed an output stage with the thought that > people will be using Y-cables on it. And you sure as heck wouldn't get > warranty money if something did go wrong. > > Personally, I think a low quality, el cheapo mixer (a la old Realistic from > Radio Shack, might cost a few ten-dollar bills) is a better investment > than using Y-chords which might blow up your hundreds/thousands of > dollars worth of equipment. You could even sacrifice your stereo image > for mono if you need to buy a really small mixer (1/2 as many channels). > But hey, if the Y-chords work, who can say you're wrong to use them? Let me add... do be careful, but, I have use the y-mixers in my home studio for at least 6 years and I haven't blown anything up yet. The only thing, if anything, that has ever happened is that I get a peice of equipment that in unbalanced and overpowers one channel. And what about these el cheapo mixers you're talking about? they're more than a few ten dollar bills... and the guy said he didn't have that much. My mixing system (which includes 5 peices) is at a max of $20.00. And once you mix it into a stereo system, the rec out of the system is safe enough for anything (i.e. tape decs, samplers, etc.). But you're right, do be careful... and watch for any funny smells :-) - -WireMan "They're wrong! They're all wrong!" Standard Disclaimer: You know; can't be held liable if it breaks...blah blah blah... ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #196 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #197 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Saturday, 12 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 197 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hyman Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 23:02:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Y-mixers. On Fri, 11 Nov 1994, Benjamin P. Solomon wrote: > > Let me add... do be careful, but, I have use the y-mixers in my > home studio for at least 6 years and I haven't blown anything up yet. ^^^ The operative word --^^^ Wiring two live audio outputs together with a Y-cable IS A VERY BAD IDEA. - Mike (mikeh@netaxs.com) ------------------------------ From: g.leone@genie.geis.com Date: Sat, 12 Nov 94 04:59:00 UTC Subject: Y-Mixers Here's that schematic for the passive mixer. Got it off a local bulletin board: - ---snip--- Here's a schematic diagram of how to make your own simple passive audio mixer. This device can take the outputs of several pieces of equipment (keyboards, sysnts, drum machines, etc.) and combine them into one signal for further processing, recording, whatever. Note that this is a passive mixer, which does not provide any amplification. It also does not provide any volume (level) control over the individual volume of any of the inputs -- each individual equipment must be adjusted for its own volume level. Eight inputs are shown in this example, but the number of inputs can be reduced or increased, as your needs dictate. If you build the 8-input mixer as shown, unused inputs can be left unconnected with no effect on the rest of the circuit. J in R in Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O | J in R in | Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O | J in R in | Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O | J in R in | J out Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O---------O--------< Output | | J in R in | | Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O / | \ J in R in | R out \ Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O / | \ J in R in | | Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O | | | J in R in | __|__ Input >--------/\/\/\/\--------O ___ _ Parts List: "R in" resistors = 10,000 ohms, 1/4-watt, carbon "R out" resistor = 100,000 ohms, 1/4-watt, carbon "J in" and "J out" connectors are typically 1/4" 2-conductor panel-mounted female guitar-type jacks, but can be other types as needed (such as RCA) Mount the above circuit in a small, fully-enclosed metal box. All parts are available at Radio Shack and similar stores. ---snip--- Hope that helps. -Gerry g.leone@genie.geis.com ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:52:42 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP! SCSI problems... >HOPEFULLY soneone can help me!!!! >I have a PS Systems 44-meg removeable hard drive (syquest 555) connected >to my (BRAND NEW!!!) ASR-10 with factory installed SCSI. When I try to >format a 44-meg cart it begins to format...but later get a FILE >OPERATION ERROR...I was having the same problem when it was connected to >my old EPS! I thought an ASR-10 would solve my problems... Boy, good way to solve problems!! How about the cartridge itself? Got another to test? Don't you wish there was/is a SCSI Syquest tester, that tests out the whole drive. Maybe a call to Syquest could help. You might also try calling Mick at SOund Logic, who distributes the leftovers of PS Systems stuff now; at 1-619-789-6558. Garth/RCS ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:28:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Audio noise???? On Fri, 11 Nov 1994, Christopher M. Sevanick wrote: > I seem to have a reoccuring problem with noise emanating from the L and R audio > of my EPS. Sometimes, I do not have a problem and other times, the noise is > loud enough to be annoying. This problem was happening this summer and then > disappeared only to reappear today. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Please e-mail me. Thanks, Chris > Could it possibly be from using a Y-MIXER?!?!? ;-) Sorry, I couldn't resist. Really, I would have that checked... sounds serious. - -WireMan "They're wrong! They're all wrong!" Standard disclaimer: ...it's not my fault. ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 01:35:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Y-Mixers On Fri, 11 Nov 1994, Michael Hyman wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 1994, Benjamin P. Solomon wrote: > > > > Let me add... do be careful, but, I have used the y-mixers in my > > home studio for at least 6 years and I haven't blown anything up yet. > ^^^ > The operative word --^^^ > > Wiring two live audio outputs together with a Y-cable IS A VERY BAD IDEA. > > - Mike (mikeh@netaxs.com) Live audio outputs that aren't very hot that is. Isn't this line level we're talking about here? Besides, how many people do you know who have fried anything up doing this? If any at all, have they considered lightning or power surge as a possible cause? Now... how many people do you know who use y-mixers and HAVEN'T screwed anything up? Thought so. - -WireMan "They're wrong! They're all wrong!" Standard disclaimer: blah blah blah not liable for damage blah blah fried equipment blah blah heart ache blah other unexpected outcomes blah blah blah... ------------------------------ From: root@beacon.dev.com (Chris Bradley) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 94 23:46:03 PST Subject: Re: Y-mixers and SIMMs > > So yes, you can use y-splitters [for] mixers. > If I may chime in here, it's not a very good idea to connect 2 (or more) > live audio outputs together with raw wire. I take that back - it can be > a good idea if your intention is to damage the output preamps of your > devices. Seriously, this is *not* recommended, and you could wind up > damaging your EPS/ASR. Or any other piece of audio gear, for that matter. Output resistances/current abilities of equipment varies, and blowing line output drivers is a very easy thing to do. > And while I'm writing about things you shouldn't do to your ASR: it's not > a good idea to install 9-bit SIMMs in your ASR. The 9-bit SIMMs may be Hold on a minute. Electronically there's no reason why you can't, provided that a given company doesn't arbitrarily use the parity pin for something else. In the ASR's case, they don't, and thusly they work just fine. I and many other ASR-10 owners are living proof they work just fine. It sounds like Ensoniq had been "encouraged" or bribed by a non-parity SIMM maker. Blah. > easier to purchase, but if you use them, they can cause damage to the > ASR-10. There have been no documented cases that I've ever heard of someone using Parity SIMMs and having the ASR-10 fail. This is according to a local Ensoniq rep and repair service center. I asked before I did it. > They put an extra drain on the power supply and increase the heat > generated. Insignificant amounts I might add. 4 4 Megabyte parity SIMMs pull about 2 watts each more than non-parity SIMMs. 8 Watts isn't enough to make a power supply cringe. > In my personal experience, 8-bit SIMMs are easy to locate and > purchase, and do not cost any more than 9-bit parity SIMMs. Your experiences are the exception to the rule. Parity SIMMs are everywhere. Egghead, mail order, etc.... they're even sold at department stores in my area. But non-parity SIMMs are nowhere to be found. Not only that, when they ARE found, they're on the order of 10-20% more expensive than non-parity SIMMs. Why? Because there isn't a large market for them. For two four megabyte non parity SIMMs, one must pay $419 in this area. $208 Per 4 MB SIMM? That's a total ripoff. 4MB Parity SIMMs cost me between $100-$120 each. And they work fine in my ASR-10, I might add. - -->Chris Chris Bradley | "Music is the ultimate mood shifter. It can make you chrisb@beacon.dev.com | laugh, cry, or change the station. Either way, without root@beacon.dev.com | music, there's no reason to live." -- Me ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 22:09:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Y-mixers and SIMMs Although I liked the electronic explainations of Chris Bradley's response (can't wait to hear Mike's answer), his "shopping around" could use some work. >Your experiences are the exception to the rule. Parity SIMMs are everywhere. >Egghead, mail order, etc.... they're even sold at department stores in my >area. But non-parity SIMMs are nowhere to be found. Not only that, when they >ARE found, they're on the order of 10-20% more expensive than non-parity >SIMMs. Why? Because there isn't a large market for them. For two four megabyte >non parity SIMMs, one must pay $419 in this area. $208 Per 4 MB SIMM? That's >a total ripoff. 4MB Parity SIMMs cost me between $100-$120 each. Club Mac (1-800-CLUB-MAC) sells non-pariety 4mb SIMM's for about $143 apiece, last I checked. So you are right; non-pariaty are a touch more, but for that little extra, I'd rather be safe. Garth/RCS ------------------------------ From: Roy_H@ix.netcom.com (Hollis Jones) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 19:08:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Y-Mixers You wrote: > >On Fri, 11 Nov 1994, Michael Hyman wrote: > >> On Fri, 11 Nov 1994, Benjamin P. Solomon wrote: >> > >> > Let me add... do be careful, but, I have used the y-mixers in my >> > home studio for at least 6 years and I haven't blown anything up yet. >> ^^^ >> The operative word - --^^^ >> >> Wiring two live audio outputs together with a Y-cable IS A VERY BAD IDEA. >> >> - Mike (mikeh@netaxs.com) > > >Live audio outputs that aren't very hot that is. Isn't this line level >we're talking about here? Besides, how many people do you know who have >fried anything up doing this? If any at all, have they considered >lightning or power surge as a possible cause? Now... how many people >do you know who use y-mixers and HAVEN'T screwed anything up? >Thought so. > >-WireMan >"They're wrong! They're all wrong!" > >Standard disclaimer: >blah blah blah not liable for damage blah blah fried equipment blah >blah heart ache blah other unexpected outcomes blah blah blah... > > Well Maybe its's not often that you would have a problem with "Y" cord mixing, But there are some Professional stuff that would not like it. You May suffer/ Lack of level Lack of low end (resulting coupling capacitors in to too low impedance load.) Early output clipping I have incurred these problems at Power Station NY when hooking up a Keyboard/sampler into a 600 ohm Pultec EQ/ C'mon, you all out there can pop for a few resistors and some connectors, it's really worth the effort, "Y" cord mixing is pure laziness..... ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #197 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #198 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Sunday, 13 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 198 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maleski@mail.utexas.edu (Mark Maleski) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 22:43:49 -0600 Subject: Editor/Librarian I was reading through the December issue of Keyboard magazine and came across a product called MIDI Quest and MIDI Quest Jr. for the EPS. This was listed under the editor/librarian software buyer's guide on page 131. Has anyone out there heard of this product and if so is it worth the investment? It would be great to have a computer based editing tool for the EPS. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark Maleski ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 23:47:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Y-Mixers On Sat, 12 Nov 1994, Hollis Jones wrote: > Well Maybe its's not often that you would have a problem with "Y" cord > mixing, But there are some Professional stuff that would not like it. > > You May suffer/ Lack of level > Lack of low end (resulting coupling capacitors in to too > low impedance load.) > Early output clipping > For those of us who saw the original question from the beginning, I believe my original answer included some of the downsides of using y-mixers (even some of these listed) and by no means am I recommending y-mixing cables over standard professional mixing equipment...BUT the guy said he didn't have the money to use a real mixer, and wanted to know if y-mixers *would work* and the answer is yes... with a reasonable amount of safety to your equipment I think ...and refer to my original reply for disadvatages. Besides... it's great if money's tight. > > > C'mon, you all out there can pop for a few resistors and some > connectors, it's really worth the effort, > "Y" cord mixing is pure laziness..... > Why should I? It works just fine without them... want me to send you a demo tape? I've used TEN count them TEN raw y-cords in my system for six years and I'm not about to shell out $2000.00 for a mixing console that I won't see much improvement in anyway. Want more low end? I think the answer there is a graphic equalizer. More signal power? How bout an amplifier? And I've never had trouble with clipping. - -WireMan "Wrey're thong! Wrey're all thong!" Standard diclaimer: Hey, all I know is it works on my system... but if it melts down your keyboards or some really weird thing like that... don't come looking for me. ------------------------------ From: happy@eden.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 04:01:30 -0600 Subject: Re: Editor/Librarian >I was reading through the December issue of Keyboard magazine and came >across a product called MIDI Quest and MIDI Quest Jr. for the EPS. This >was listed under the editor/librarian software buyer's guide on page 131. >Has anyone out there heard of this product and if so is it worth the >investment? It would be great to have a computer based editing tool for >the EPS. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I own MIDI Quest and LOVE it. It not only edits the EPS but it edits a bunch of different synths, drum machines, and effects processors. I couldn't live without it, I have quite a few pieces of gear and this makes my life so much easier. The only downside is that it's expensive. Hope this helps. Vince. ------------------------------ From: Mark O'Shea Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 22:45:19 +1100 (EST) Subject: oak EPS archives on CD? Hi I was looking at getting the oakland eps stuff put onto cd, and developing a front end to access everything multimedia viewer for windows. I will be doing this for myself to clear up disk space, but was wondering if anyone else would be interested in the cd. I only have the tools and resources to develop a windows front end, unfortunately no mac or atari interface. The disc will be pressed in iso-9660 format, so it can be read in any environment, thus users of other systems will still be catered for. Maybe someone will volunteer to do those sides of it for me. I know that there is nowhere near 650mb of data, so any more contributions will be readily accepted for inclusion. Credit for everything included will go back to the creator of the sounds/utilities etc. I will investigate costs involved, but i'm not doing this for profit, I'm doing it because I need it for myself anyway. At worse the cost will be the cost of a gold master plus expenses, at best we will be able get proper dupplication in place, with a glass master, artwork, and lower prices. I've got pretty good contacts for some parts of this process, so prices should be kept low. All of the files will be expanded, ready to make disk images. All dos and windows apps should be able to be run directly from the cd. The mac and atari files will be compressed in an 8.3 type dos filename (an ISO9660 limitation). If anyone who has contributed to oak doesn't like the idea of their stuff going on, could they please contact me. If anyone is interested in helping out in anyway, whether it be by submissions, atari/mac assistance, or friendly suggestions, let me know. regards Mark mos@mpx.com.au mos@jolt.mpx.com.au ------------------------------ From: Michael Cowden Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 10:23:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Y Mixers Enough with the Y-Mixers already. This is an EPS/ASR list! I son't care if someone wants to post an irrelevant question, but this has recieved more than enough attention. I you want to argue about it do it through private E-mail. Mike ------------------------------ From: root@beacon.dev.com (Chris Bradley) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 94 14:01:39 PST Subject: How to deldir with ASR-10 I've read the manual for the ASR-10 many times now, and still haven't found a way to delete a directory. If it's empty isn't there some sort of 1-2-3 step to wipe it out? - -->Chris Chris Bradley | "Music is the ultimate mood shifter. It can make you chrisb@beacon.dev.com | laugh, cry, or change the station. Either way, without root@beacon.dev.com | music, there's no reason to live." -- Me ------------------------------ From: tfrazier@qualcomm.com (Thomas Frazier) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 18:22:42 -0800 Subject: Y cables Hi Benjamin, The procedure you discrbed may work but could damage your equiptment. Normally One driver is pluged into one receiver. both the driver and the receiver has an internal impeadence associated with it. By design the receiver or "input device" has enough impeadence so that to driver " synthesizer " wont be over taxed and heat up. Possibly burning out. Normally the driver circuits have low impeadence and the receiver circuit may have identical or higher impeadence so that power transfer would be at a maximum. WHEN! you add extra drivers to the same line using y's as you discribed the total impeadence that any individual driver sees is much lower causing it to drive harder/hotter heading towards a possible burn out. What happes is that each driver on the same line not only drives the receiver but also every other driver on the line as well. Since the drivers normally have low impedence, the total impeadence goes down significantly. If one or more of your synths cannot handle the extra load byby driver :-( circuit and more $$ than you planed for. Ive noted some replies say that they have done it and it works but im sure the trade off is the life span of those output driver circuits of all devices concerned will be significantly shortened. Hope this helps. Thanks, Tom Frazier ------------------------------ From: John Hinchey <72733.1212@compuserve.com> Date: 13 Nov 94 22:44:18 EST Subject: Eps 16+ Hi folks, I heard about this line from Garth @ Rubber Chicken. Here's a problem: I can't get my EPS 16+ to transpose it's keyboard when controlling an ext. midi device. For example I want to move middle c up an octave on the EPS 16+ keyboard when controlling my Kurzweil Micro piano. I'm using a Mac IIci and Performer software and my EPS 16+ is my controller. 1.I load an instrument into track one 2.EDIT/Instrument midi status Both Midi out channel one TRNS OCT -+0 I change to +1 or -1 etc, I still get middle 'C' on my micro piano (or my U-110, or my Proteus etc) when I play the 3rd 'C' on the keyboard. The instrument loaded into the EPS 16+ transposes as you would expect it to. I've also tried this with out going through Performer and still no luck. Everything else works, sustain, patch change, pitch wheel, mod wheel but the octave remains the same. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, John Hinchey ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #198 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #199 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Monday, 14 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 199 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 01:11:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Eps 16+ On 13 Nov 1994, John Hinchey wrote: > Hi folks, > I heard about this line from Garth @ Rubber Chicken. > Here's a problem: > I can't get my EPS 16+ to transpose it's keyboard when controlling an ext. midi > device. For example I want to move middle c up an octave on the EPS 16+ > keyboard when controlling my Kurzweil Micro piano. I'm using a Mac IIci and > Performer software and my EPS 16+ is my controller. > 1.I load an instrument into track one > 2.EDIT/Instrument midi status Both > Midi out channel one > TRNS OCT -+0 > I change to +1 or -1 etc, I still get middle 'C' on my micro piano (or my > U-110, or my Proteus etc) when I play the 3rd 'C' on the keyboard. The > instrument loaded into the EPS 16+ transposes as you would expect it to. > > I've also tried this with out going through Performer and still no luck. > Everything else works, sustain, patch change, pitch wheel, mod wheel but the > octave remains the same. What am I doing wrong? > Thanks, > John Hinchey > John: Here is some things to try: Have you tried it just moving only two or three semitones? Some synthesizers won't let you transpose a full octave, for some strange reason, my Yamaha V50 is like that in the higher ranges on certain instruments. On the Edit/System page, is transmit on inst or base channel? Try setting it to inst. Also on the Edit/System page, try setting all the midi stuff on, i.e. midi controllers=on, midi sys-ex=on,and midi prog change=on Try setting multi controllers on (Edit/System page) Try rebooting, then set all of these---^ settings, then create a new instrument, then try it. If these things don't work, try kicking it a few times, swearing, or other scare tactics to get it to work. ;-) Good Luck! - -WireMan "They're Wong! They're all Wong!" Standard Disclaimer: Not responsible for damage invoked by information in this document; if you use the information given here, use it at your own risk. ------------------------------ From: David Fedchenko Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 01:52:55 -0800 Subject: Swingin' Sound Search Hi, I'm currently working on a theater project and I need to create some music in a 30's - 40's swing style. So I'm looking for ASR instrument sounds that will give me the right feel. I have CDR-2 and a bunch of floppies but the tone of the various instruments don't work for me. So I'm looking for either sounds or pointers to collections to check out - I'm willing to spend money, so please, all suggestions are welcome. I'm basically looking for the typical swing band instruments with the right jazzy timbres. A nice round tuba sound. A bright trumpet with a good sharp attack. A "whiney" (as opposed to mellow) clarinet. A simple set of Bass, Snare, Cymbal. A good trombone, I haven't needed it just yet but will soon. Again, any and all help will be greatly appreciated. The music just isn't the same with all those orchestral instruments - there's no excitement coming from it. thanks, david... ------------------------------ From: midilink@interaccess.com (Dave Nosek) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 07:31:59 -0600 Subject: WAV files to ASR I've got a few thousand FX .WAV files that I'd like to pick through and convert to store on one of my ASR's hard drives. I use these primarilly for video work. What's the fastest way to convert these? I don't want to go through the convert to .SMP with Sound Forge or one of the other converters then spend all day using SampleVision to get them to the ASR. I may end up just triggering them as WAVs from WinCakePro. Any ideas? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Sound Management - MIDILink Net 10 gigs of MIDI 708.949.6434 8-N-1 midilink@interaccess.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: William Michalson Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 09:04:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Y-Mixers >Live audio outputs that aren't very hot that is. Isn't this line level >we're talking about here? Besides, how many people do you know who have >fried anything up doing this? This is the problem with good engineering design! A properly designed circuit will have sufficient margin to allow it's users to safely make all of the common mistakes (like wiring outputs directly to outputs). This give the impression that "it's OK" to do things which should be avoided if possible. In reality, in the "Y-adapter mixer" the output transistors of each peice of equipment are sinking/sourcing more current than the design goal, but probably not more than the device spec allows. As components are added (or if all the signal sources on all but one of the outputs happened to generate a singal in phase) the situation will worsen until the output stage of the weakest link dies. I short, yes it does work. Good engineering lets that happen. But you are whittling away at the margin left by the designers to provide high reliability over long periods of time under adverse conditions. The circuit for a passive mixer can be built for about $20 and is a much better alternative than a Y-adapter. My $0.02. Bill (ps. When I was servicing electronics for a living I saw dozens of pieces of equipment blown up for this, and equally silly reasons. It was not uncommon to see a hole blown in the side of an audio output chip! Fortunately, it's an easy problem to fix (so it's not too expensive) ) manner. ------------------------------ From: "Scott W. Gurley" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 10:06:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Frm: the original y-mixer guy OK OK OK OK Thanks tons for all the responses to my y-mixer question. I think we are using way too much bandwidth. My selfish side says so-what but my net-side says take it off line. So, from now on, please mail me any messages personally. If you'ld like to be updated on what that other guy said, I'll forward everything to you. Right now, I have two 4-channel MONO Fostex mixers (I forgot the model#). I paid about $40 for each of them. The problem with them is noise. I hate that hiss related to mixers... and so on. When I plug any of my equiptment directly into my amp (also a Sony 900 series reciever - wireman!), I have no trouble with noise. So, I wanna get rid of these "mixers". A mixer that would fit my studio would cost ~$900 or so. I'm looking at $27,000 in loans to pay back so I'm virtually broke. I'm gonna try the y-mixer idea. I did some tests at home with my EPS and Juno-1 with very good results. I think I'll splurge for the wires and if it doesn't work (one instrument overpowers the othere) then I'll build the resistor-mixer. Oh, could the person who sent in the resistor-mixer schematic please mail me or the list, the source of this schematic. I think Electronic Musician also has the plans for one but I'll have to read through some of my 5 years of back issues! Thanks again to all who replied. The responses just backed up my suspisions about blowing output stages and backed up my feeling of "I've tried it before and it worked so....". In a seperate small thread. As long as I've had stereos, I've always used radio-shack y cables to "mix" a cd and tape player... hi-tec dj stuff! And this has always worked flawlessly. But, I think this equiptments "line out" specs are well documented and meant for this whereas a keyboards may not be... thanks all see you in my private email box yum yum - -scott g Scott Gurley (swg3@cec.wustl.edu) - ----------------------------------------------------------- BA Physics, BA Music, BS Electrical Engineering Remember: Macs = Buy->Plug->Play IBMs = Buy->Plug->Conflict->Repeat ------------------------------ From: mccarthy@mprgate.mpr.ca (Chad McCarthy) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:25:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Y-mixers > to know if y-mixers *would work* and the answer is yes... with a > reasonable amount of safety to your equipment I think ...and refer ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ > > C'mon, you all out there can pop for a few resistors and some > > connectors, it's really worth the effort, > > "Y" cord mixing is pure laziness..... > Why should I? It works just fine without them... want me to send you a > Hey, all I know is it works on my system... but if it melts down > your keyboards or some really weird thing like that... don't come > looking for me. I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that your Y-cords work - for YOUR system. Point is, there's no telling if they'll work with any other given combination of equipment unless you a) have schematics of the output stages and go through some tedious circuit analysis, or b) you actually plug the chords in and see if anything blows up. I think people are just trying to say that the SAFEST option on any given setup is to NOT use Y-cords. There's some good electronic reasons not to. And you CAN create your own mixer for < a couple of bucks, as shown in previous email (add a couple of op-amps to the circuit for level control). I'm glad your system works, and for a relatively small price. But there's no disputing the inherent dangers in combining audio outputs - so everyone should, of course, do so at their own risk. my $.02 again Chad. ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 12:40:37 -0500 Subject: Re: WAV files to ASR >I've got a few thousand FX .WAV files that I'd like to pick through and >convert to store on one of my ASR's hard drives. I use these primarilly for >video work. What's the fastest way to convert these? I'd try GETEPS (on oak.oakland.edu:/pub/utils/msdos/epswave.zip. It will transmit a .wav to an EPS/ASR through MIDI, put it into an instrument, and then you can save it to the hard drive. Good to hear from you - hope you're doing well. Garth/RCS ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #199 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #200 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Tuesday, 15 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 200 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin P. Solomon" Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 01:06:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: WAV files to ASR On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Dave Nosek wrote: > I've got a few thousand FX .WAV files that I'd like to pick through and > convert to store on one of my ASR's hard drives. I use these primarilly for > video work. > > What's the fastest way to convert these? > > I don't want to go through the convert to .SMP with Sound Forge or one of > the other converters then spend all day using SampleVision to get them to > the ASR. > > I may end up just triggering them as WAVs from WinCakePro. > > Any ideas? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > Sound Management - MIDILink Net 10 gigs of MIDI 708.949.6434 8-N-1 > midilink@interaccess.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ > Try the convert program at oak.oakland.edu, it's called (surprizinlgly) "CONVERT.EXE"--- it converts many many many formats. Try converting from .wavs to .ins (which is an EPS instrument that the ASR-10 I think could read) then make a disk image file with the .ins files inside, then load with your ASR-10 direct from disk. I think it will be faster than MIDI even on a good day. - -WireMan "They're wrong. They're all wrong." Standard Disclaimer: Sometimes the author of this material doesn't know what the heck he's talking about so if it doesn't work, it was only a suggestion. ------------------------------ From: d.gillogly1@genie.geis.com Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 07:51:00 UTC Subject: HELP! SCSI problems... I was never able to get my 44-meg removable to format on the ASR. ~`~`~ PianoMan Dan ~`~`~ ~`~`~ Swee Lin Roc Music ~`~`~ ~`~`~ In Sweet Home Chicago ~`~`~ d.gillogly1@genie.geis.com ------------------------------ From: kerkhoff@mail.utexas.edu (Jim Kerkhoff) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 11:12:34 -0600 Subject: CD-ROM Drives Is there a list of approved CD-ROM Drives for the EPS 16+? Also, Any caveats or concerns when hooking one up? Thanks Jim ------------------------------ From: hecdog@uclink.berkeley.edu (Hector Hugo Perez) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 10:31:47 -0800 Subject: Good News for ASR10! For those who aren't informed: I went to the AES convention last weekend in S.F. I met an Ensoniq expert from Canada (he's a reseller). I pounded him with questions, one being "what's in the near future for the ASR?" He says a new O.S. 3.0 will be out next month. We'll finally be able to load Akai, Roland and quite possibly Kurtzwiel samples. That's the good news! Samples, samples, samples. BTW, he told me Kurtzwiel is being sued for advertizing they can read ASR samples, which is wrong since the K2000 only supports three layers, as opposed to 8 in the ASR. Score one for the ASR! Anyone know a little more? Hector ------------------------------ From: rborgovini@mail.iitri.com (Robert J. Borgovini) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 13:32:22 EST Subject: ASR10 Any idea what a used ASR10 with SCSI interface, no extended RAM is going for? ------------------------------ From: wae@olympus.ctron.com (William A. Edmondson) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 15:33:08 EST Subject: [none] > being "what's in the near future for the ASR?" He says a new O.S. 3.0 > will be out next month. We'll finally be able to load Akai, Roland and > quite possibly Kurtzwiel samples. That's the good news! Samples, samples, samples. does anyone know the future of the EPS16 in this respect? bill edmondson. ------------------------------ From: Legion Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 16:06:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: ASR10 On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Robert J. Borgovini wrote: > Any idea what a used ASR10 with SCSI interface, no extended RAM is going > for? i don't think this is typical but in the local trading paper here i SAW THIS: ASR10 SAMPLING KEYBOARD w/expanded memory SCSI interface upgraded. Studio use only all factory disks. $1000. That's a damn good price and it's porbably already sold. I've seen 'em for around $1500+ too. ------------------------------ From: "Fred Jacobs" Date: Tue, 15 Nov 94 12:20:34 MDT Subject: subscribe Hi! Please subscribe me to your Ensoniq EPS mailing list. Regards, Fred Jacobs F_Jacobs@biomira.com ------------------------------ From: harvey Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 16:16:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: ts10 volume i use cubase as my sequencer with my ts10 and have been running into a few problems: 1. i'm in multi mode, i've got instruments on all the tracks, i start the sequencer. almost always there are two instruments that don't sound, or barely do. they come in as soon as i push the soft button above/below them. what's the deal? i've got no midi volume change recorded in cubase, any ideas what i'm doing wrong? 2. PROGRAM CHANGES. i couldn't seem to send out the right program change messages from cubase, so now i record it from the ts10 (as in replace track sound then selecting the new instrument on the ts10 while recording it in cubase). this works most only some of the time, other times it seems to change to whatever instrument it wants (ie i'll select megasaw and the change will end up being acid bass or something). any idea what i'm doing wrong? i know these are probably obvious problems, but any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks, M.C. ------------------------------ From: fringers@cats.ucsc.edu Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 16:27:55 -0800 Subject: Re: subscribe you have to subscribe yourself! Don't remember what the specific address is though...sorry. ------------------------------ From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 09:23:21 CST Subject: Trouble with autosubscribe Sorry to hit the whole list with this, but I have tried eps-request@oak.oakland.edu and it don't work :-) I am going to be away from my account for a while and don't want to fill my spool with eps stuff...the auto system tells me that there is noone with my address on the system...I suspect an old (now aliased) address is registered on the eps-list. Can the person in charge remove scott@psy.uwa.oz.au or scott@wapsy... from the list. I'll re-sub when I return. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (9) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v Joy is a Jaguar XJ6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic wife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of eps-digest V1 #200 ************************* From: owner-eps-digest To: eps-digest@oak.oakland.edu Subject: eps-digest V1 #201 Reply-To: eps Errors-To: owner-eps-digest Precedence: bulk eps-digest Wednesday, 16 November 1994 Volume 01 : Number 201 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: yhbae@sparc.snu.ac.kr (Young Hyun Bae) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 17:03:18 KST Subject: Hi! Everyone. I'm first in this list. I'm very intereted in ensoniq's music gear, especially TS-10 and ASR-10. Is there any mailing list or ftp site from which I get the information about TS-10 synthsizer ? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: jesper@iss.se (Jesper Gummeson) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 10:21:07 +0100 Subject: time compress / expand Hello! Does anybody know if there is a time compress and expand utility for PC=B4s (any sample format convertable to and from ASR-10)? I need something faster than a slow ASR-10 for this process. Best Regards /Jesper ___________________________________________________________________________ /\ Jesper Gummeson | email: jesper@iss.se /\/ \ Technical Support | Fax : +46 8-276620 /\/ \ \ Summit Scandinavia AB | Voice: +46 8-276670=20 ___________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: ChickenEPS@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 04:31:03 -0500 Subject: Re: CD-ROM Drives >Is there a list of approved CD-ROM Drives for the EPS 16+? Also, Any >caveats or concerns when hooking one up? Yes - here's some basic rules. Any Sony, Toshiba, or Chinon 535 should work. As far as buying, remember this: SCSI, external, Sony, Toshiba, or Chinon 535 (434 doesn't work). That's success. Most CD-ROM drives are not terminated; most come with a 50-pin terminator plug that hooks onto the unused port. Terminate when the CD-ROM is last in the chain. Most EPS/ASR-formatted CD-ROM's do not have the 16-Plus OS on it; rather they have the ASR-10's or none. Use the direct macro's - they are very helpful. Garth/RCS ------------------------------ From: thammer@marin.unit.no Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 13:04:53 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: time compress / expand > > Hello! > > Does anybody know if there is a time compress and > expand utility for PC=B4s (any sample format convertable > to and from ASR-10)? > I need something faster than a slow ASR-10 for this > process. > > Best Regards > /Jesper Cool at oak will do time-compress/expand, you need terje's aif2efe efe2aif to do the conversions. ------------------------------ From: conradej@infiniti.jsc.nasa.gov (John Conrader) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 7:38:33 CST Subject: OS from oakland Hi all, I know this is probably a stupid question, but I can not make a EPS disk out of the 1.3 OS .gkh file at oak. I am using a mac. Is there any way to do this. I can also get access to a PC if that is the only way to do it. I tried to use EPSm, but it told me it would not do OS disks. Any help would be appreciated. - -John :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ System Administrator | John Conrader and CAD specialist | Space Station CAD Network | conradej@InfInItI.jsc.nasa.gov - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Call it impulsive, call it compulsive, call it insane... -barenaked ladies - ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: conradej@infiniti.jsc.nasa.gov (John Conrader) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 7:41:24 CST Subject: MO drives and EPS16+? Hi, Has anyone used a MO drive with the 16+ ? I am just looking around for some type of storage device that I can use on my mac and my EPS (when it isn't needed on the mac). Any suggestions? Thanks, - -John :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ System Administrator | John Conrader and CAD specialist | Space Station CAD Network | conradej@InfInItI.jsc.nasa.gov - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Call it impulsive, call it compulsive, call it insane... -barenaked ladies - ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Mark Plummer Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 06:55:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: new OS Regarding the news about the new O.S. for the ASR that will read Roland and Akai samples :), does this mean there will be a new version for the EPS 16+ that can do the same? thanks. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||| ||| ||| Mark Plummer Constantly in . . . ||| ||| Fort Collins, Colorado Romantic Limbo ||| ||| U.S.A. ||| ||| ||| ||| markp@alpha.pr1.k12.co.us Picture & Sound ||| ||| ||| ||| Amiga4000*VideoToaster*Centris660av*ADAT*EPS16+*Mackie*DA-30mkII ||| ||| ||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ------------------------------ From: "John E. Sasinowski" Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 09:10:00 -0500 Subject: Re: MO drives and EPS16+? I tried using my Fujitsu DynaMO (it's a 128MB drive) without success. If anyone has any luck with this or any other MO device, let me know (as well as what, if anything, it took to make the setup work). - John ------------------------------ From: Michael Cowden Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 10:38:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: LOOPING and FILTER From time to time, when I loop a sample , the loop part is much more muted than the sample itself , it's like someone cut the filter in the loop. And it's variable. Each time the loop retriggers the fileter opens up a bit or closes up a little. This only happens once in a while. Has anyone else had similiar problems, or know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks Mike ------------------------------ From: Khew Sin Sun Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 23:46:22 +0800 (SST) Subject: Support Was wondering,since oak.oakland.edu has such active and strong support on Ensoniq-wares,couldn't ensoniq.com (or whatever!!) support this by having their latest OS'es in here so that the users can d/l them? Comments,Ensoniq?? Khew ------------------------------ From: "Kevin O. Yeap" Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 08:32:30 -0800 Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe ------------------------------ From: hardy@KMERL.Research.Panasonic.COM (Wesley hardy) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 94 12:10:26 EST Subject: Re: Hi! Everyone. > I'm first in this list. > I'm very intereted in ensoniq's music gear, especially > TS-10 and ASR-10. Is there any mailing list or ftp site from which > I get the information about TS-10 synthsizer ? > > Thanks. > 61 keys polyphonic aftertouch (pressure sensitivity) velocity sensitive 300 sound programs (120 RAM, 180 ROM) 300 presets (contains 3 sound programs) (120 RAM, 180 ROM) 6MB sample ROM, 2MB sample RAM (expandable to 8MB) 1.44 MB floppy disk drive (save sounds,presets, sequences) loads EPS/ASR samples from disk optional read-only SCSI port (supports EPS/ASR CD-ROMs and hard drives) 24 track sequencer with tap-tempo supports 4 programmable foot switches Digital effects processor with 73 effects algorithms (693 variations) * first 21 FX algorithms are parallel effects supports pitch tables hyperwaves ( wave sequences with up to 16 steps ) Hey, ask us TS owners for more in-depth info. We can provide info from our experiences that brochures and dealers can't. Wesley Hardy, TS-12 supports 1 volume pedal ------------------------------ From: Jason Priebe Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 12:20:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: LOOPING and FILTER > >From time to time, when I loop a sample , the loop part is much more muted than > the sample itself , it's like someone cut the filter in the loop. And it's > variable. Each time the loop retriggers the fileter opens up a bit or closes > up a little. This only happens once in a while. Has anyone else had similiar > problems, or know what I'm doing wrong? Don't know what WE'RE doing wrong -- I've had the same problem with certain samples. Very irritating, but because that "filter opening" and "filter closing" effect happens when the loop restarts, I doubt that it is because we have set our filter parameters incorrectly. Sounds like a bug to me. Just bury the voice in the wonderful FX! :-) - -Jason `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`, `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,if`you`ask`no,questions,then`beware,of`lies,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`, `jason`priebe,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,priebe@cs.unc.edu, `,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`, ------------------------------ From: bekraft@students.wisc.edu (Benjamin Kraft) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 11:50:50 -0600 Subject: New Operating System (Kurzweil samples may be available soon). The beauty of it will be that when you load one of these samples into the ASR, the layers and effects will translate perfectly! So a S-770 sample will sound, well, exactly like an S-770! Very cool. But, you EPS-16 Plus owners unfortunately will not be able to share in the picnic. And as far as I know, Ensoniq has no further plans to update the 16 plus operating system. Ben Kraft Kraft Music & Computers Milwaukee, WI bekraft@students.wisc.edu ------------------------------ From: Bell David W H Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 13:52:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: New OS for TS owners? If the TS series can read EPS and ASR disks, does it/should it follow that if the new ASR OS can play Kurzweil samples, then a new TS OS should be underway to do the same thing? Can anyone answer this? Thanks. - -- Dave Bell - -- Graduate Engineering Intern, Bucknell University - -- dbell@coral.bucknell.edu ------------------------------ From: happy@eden.com Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 13:40:24 -0600 Subject: Is it me? Hi all, I recently added an ASR-10 to my collection of gear. After figuring out the basics, i've attempted to compose a new song using my new beast. It seems like everytime I use my ASR with my other gear I can hear the ASR standing out. I doesn't matter what sample I use, I can still hear it. My other gear is not a bunch of crap either, it just seems like the ASR has some unique sound that's eminating from my speakers. Is this in my head or has anyone else noticed this? Vince. ------------------------------ From: Laine Lee Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 14:17:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: OS from oakland Hi John, No way to get EPS O.S. to an EPS disk on a Mac to date. Download