From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Fri Mar 4 09:34:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Mar 94 09:29 PST Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13668; Fri, 4 Mar 94 12:23:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 12:23:20 -0500 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9403041723.AA13668@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Subject: Re: EPS Output X-pander (Now includes more info...;) Cc: jforsten@vi Has anyone ever been successful in building an OEX8 output expander? /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Mark Schneider University of Florida | | mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu 904-335-6511(Voice)/4932(Fax/Modem) | \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/ << In Stereo Where Available >> From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Fri Mar 4 10:26:50 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Mar 94 10:25 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA25519 for eps@reed.edu; Fri, 4 Mar 94 13:21:45 -0500 Received: from [198.242.252.125] by inetgate.lante.com id aa02894; 4 Mar 94 9:07 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00536; Fri, 04 Mar 94 09:07:41 CST Date: Fri, 04 Mar 94 09:07:41 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403040907.A00536@smtpgate.lante.com> To: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI Text item: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI >> `... At this point we do not have a SCSI driver which works with the EPS. We are working on a Windows version of SampleVision. I'm pretty decent buddies with one of the authors of what will become the new SampleVision. Let it be known that this is not vaporware... I know there's been a lot of talk over the years of there being a SV for Windows, and know that it really is finally on it's way. Driver wise, yeah, TB knows that SCSI is a needbe and a great way to get samples and patch data in and out of an EPS/ASR-10 in a hurry. It'll happen... Just hang in there! From ak.msc.edu!alan Fri Mar 4 14:05:31 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Mar 94 14:05 PST Received: from ak.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA20855; Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:04:40 -0600 Received: by ak.msc.edu (931110.SGI/931108.SGI) for @noc.msc.edu:pulverm@smtpgate.lante.com id AA12117; Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:04:30 -0600 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 16:04:30 -0600 From: alan@ak.msc.edu (Alan Klietz) Message-Id: <9403042204.AA12117@ak.msc.edu> To: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI Cc: eps@reed.edu > Driver wise, yeah, TB knows that SCSI is a needbe and a great way to get > samples and patch data in and out of an EPS/ASR-10 in a hurry. I'm crossing fingers hoping they figure out a way around the slow SCSI problem. If they do, it'll be a big breakthrough. From lux.latrobe.edu.au!muscrdb Fri Mar 4 18:49:23 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 131.172.2.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Mar 94 18:48 PST Received: from lux.latrobe.edu.au by LUGA.latrobe.edu.au with SMTP id AA15248 (5.67a/IDA-1.5/LTU-1.0 for ); Sat, 5 Mar 1994 13:47:50 +1100 Received: by lux.latrobe.edu.au (5.67a/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11929; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 13:47:42 +1100 From: muscrdb@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Ross Bencina) Message-Id: <199403050247.AA11929@lux.latrobe.edu.au> Subject: Direct from disk playback, mac to 16+ To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 5 Mar 94 13:47:42 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL17] Hello all, For about two years I owned an EPS16+, and did a lot of software synthesis work on my macintosh. I spent my days and nights wishing I could afford a 16 bit sound card. As I don't need to record long sounds into my computer, but regularly wish to playback 16bit stereo 44k soundfiles I decided that mabee I could pipe the sounds to the eps via scsi. Well I wrote the software four months ago and it's been working fine (my mac is just a color classic). I can play L,R,or LRmix in mono at 44k and 44k files in stereo at 22k. I am about to do a rewrite (which I suspect will be able to handle real 44k stereo (as well as other sample rates). If anyone else has already done this, let me know. Oh yeah, if you didn't work it out I'm talking L-O-N-G soundfiles (50megs + each), with no clicks, continuous playback! muscrdb@lux.latrobe.edu.au Ross Bencina La Trobe University From CompuServe.COM!72203.2303 Fri Mar 4 22:17:10 1994 Return-Path: <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> Received: from 198.4.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Mar 94 22:16 PST Received: from localhost by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.4/5.930129sam) id BAA28848; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 01:16:30 -0500 Date: 05 Mar 94 01:13:49 EST From: Garth Hjelte <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> To: INTERNET Mailing List Subject: SV, SCSI, ASR-10 Message-ID: <940305061348_72203.2303_GHB24-4@CompuServe.COM> Text item: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI >> `... At this point we do not have a SCSI driver which works with the EPS. We are working on a Windows version of SampleVision. >>I'm pretty decent buddies with one of the authors of what will become >> the new SampleVision. Let it be known that this is not vaporware... >> I know there's been a lot of talk over the years of there being a SV for >> Windows, and know that it really is finally on it's way. >>Driver wise, yeah, TB knows that SCSI is a needbe and a great way to get >> samples and patch data in and out of an EPS/ASR-10 in a hurry. It'll >> happen... Just hang in there! Yes, cool (!!!!!), but what about a Samplevision driver for the ASR-10 as well? It doesn't work with the 16+ driver as of right now. Garth Hjelte Rubber Chicken Software From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Sat Mar 5 13:24:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 5 Mar 94 13:24 PST Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.3-5 #5323) id <01H9MAP1Q3J4000PM3@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 16:12:15 EST Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H9MAF11L6O000EGT@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 16:11:56 EST Date: Sat, 05 Mar 1994 16:11:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Ted Potter (315) 349-0171" Subject: Looping To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H9MAF11UTU000EGT@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Howdy, folks! Hey, we're trying to loop some nasty techno sounds, and well, we're having trouble with it. No matter how we adjust the loopstart, end, or crossfading, we get this annoying break, like the sound stops and then plays the attack of the sound again. Crossfading helps, but only halfway-- we still get a very noticable break. How can we get the sound to fade seamlessly into the loop, and then have the loop go on seamlessly forevahhhhhhhhh?????? MWahhahhahahahhhhhhh!!!!! Thanks in advance for your sage and considered advice. . . |||||| LUGWRENCH! XXXXXXXXXXX House of Techno XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX C @\/@ X | _> X /~~~ IN%"Potter%TechDB@Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.Ca" XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From telerama.lm.com!raver909 Sat Mar 5 14:22:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 5 Mar 94 14:21 PST Received: from localhost (raver909@localhost) by telerama.lm.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA16003; Sat, 5 Mar 1994 17:21:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 17:21:21 +0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Looping To: "Ted Potter (315) 349-0171" cc: EPS@Reed.Edu In-Reply-To: <01H9MAF11UTU000EGT@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 5 Mar 1994, Ted Potter (315) 349-0171 wrote: > Howdy, folks! > > Hey, we're trying to loop some nasty techno sounds, and well, we're having > trouble with it. > > No matter how we adjust the loopstart, end, or crossfading, we get this > annoying break, like the sound stops and then plays the attack of the sound > again. > > Crossfading helps, but only halfway-- we still get a very noticable break. Hehe, as this message dropped in my box I was doing just what you asked. Looping a pad sound. If you are having problems with a noticible pop, hit EDIT, and the System and go to the Auto Loop Finding page and turn ALF off. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Sun Mar 6 10:48:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 6 Mar 94 10:48 PST Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.3-5 #5323) id <01H9NJEHCQ680018EA@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:32:38 EST Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H9NJ8TMXSW000FGB@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:32:15 EST Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Ted Potter (315) 349-0171" Subject: Re: Looping To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H9NJ8TN7G2000FGB@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >> No matter how we adjust the loopstart, end, or crossfading, we get this >> annoying break, like the sound stops and then plays the attack of the sound >> again. >> Crossfading helps, but only halfway-- we still get a very noticable break. > >Hehe, as this message dropped in my box I was doing just what you asked. >Looping a pad sound. If you are having problems with a noticible pop, hit >EDIT, and the System and go to the Auto Loop Finding page and turn ALF off. > Joe Yup, we tried that too. Still didn't work. Anything else we can try? Thanks . . . |||||| LUGWRENCH! XXXXXXXXX House of Techno XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX C @\/@ X | _> X /~~~ IN%"Potter%TechDB@Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.Ca" XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From mach1.wlu.ca!sols7520 Sun Mar 6 18:39:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.54.242.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 6 Mar 94 18:38 PST Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA17698; Sun, 6 Mar 94 21:35:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 21:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Subject: Re: Looping To: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <01H9NJ8TN7G2000FGB@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, Ted Potter (315) 349-0171 wrote: > > >> No matter how we adjust the loopstart, end, or crossfading, we get this > >> annoying break, like the sound stops and then plays the attack of the sound > >> again. > >> Crossfading helps, but only halfway-- we still get a very noticable break. > > > >Hehe, as this message dropped in my box I was doing just what you asked. > >Looping a pad sound. If you are having problems with a noticible pop, hit > >EDIT, and the System and go to the Auto Loop Finding page and turn ALF off. > > Joe > > Yup, we tried that too. Still didn't work. Anything else we can try? > > Thanks . . . I was having this exact problem today on my ASR trying to get the clicks off of the start AND end points of several guitar samples. I turned ALF off, and stepped through each sample point trying to find something that worked, but nothing did. Is there anything else that can be done. I never had this problem with my Akai (Oops! I said the "A" word!) -Mark "Our music is sampled -- totally fake. It's done by machines 'cause they don't make mistakes." From telerama.lm.com!raver909 Sun Mar 6 19:36:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 6 Mar 94 19:35 PST Received: from localhost (raver909@localhost) by telerama.lm.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA19235; Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:34:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:34:13 +0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Looping To: "Ted Potter (315) 349-0171" cc: EPS@Reed.Edu In-Reply-To: <01H9NJ8TN7G2000FGB@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, Ted Potter (315) 349-0171 wrote: > Yup, we tried that too. Still didn't work. Anything else we can try? > > Thanks . . . Well it would help if you could tell me what kinda sound you are trying to loop. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Mon Mar 7 00:45:50 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 00:45 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06455; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:47:53 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Loop Points To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:47:53 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Ok all, Here's how I do the loop points on my techno samples 1. Auto loop = on. Anyone who doubts this is quite silly :) It works. I was dumb enuf to fiddle for a few weeks with it off, so don't make the same mistake. 2. For clean techno break type fx (orch hits) use a ramp amp, set the loop to loop and release, edit the ramp amp to taste, find loop points that are perfect OR have a high pitched click (low pitched click is bad news as it leaves you with a dull THUD sound when the sample is looped) and then xfade the sample. Now when you play it it will start fading on the ramp amp when the looping starts and this kills the effect of an 'oscillating' sound type loop. Good ehh? Later -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Mon Mar 7 00:49:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 00:49 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06526; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:51:53 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Ensoniq vs... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:51:53 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I had a small compo with a friend this weekend as to who could sample a Korg X3 the fastest. (He has one of these A(you-know-what)ai machines) (names withheld to protect the innocent) :) Anyway I won hands down. Managed to sample 50 820k disks of stuff in one evening. That's about 4 times the Akai. So Ensoniq ain't so bad after all. Anyone who bitches about 'you need a graphic display' for samplers just don't know what they're on about. Anyway I'll climb off my soapbox now. Later -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Mon Mar 7 00:53:15 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 00:52 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06563; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:55:26 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Snail-Mail Trading List To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:55:26 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Just something for anyone who is sending disks and contributing to this trade-samples-by-mail thing I've started - There's now 42 disks of Korg X3 samples added to the arsenal of sounds :) in the library. Included are all the rave, rap, atmospheric, basses and the best of the combination sounds. So ya don't have to BUY the damn thing, just load the samples. I'm converting all the demo sequences as well which I WILL upload to the archive hopefully this week or so. (These will sound just like the X3's demo sequences) Anyone who wants to get on the snail-mail list just send me some email y'hear? Later -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Mon Mar 7 07:26:42 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 07:25 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA00537; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:25:08 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D7B71B1@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Mon, 07 Mar 94 10:25:53 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Looping Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 10:17:00 EST Message-Id: <2D7B71B1@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 51 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 "Hey, we're trying to loop some nasty techno sounds, and well, we're having trouble with it." Beats, pads, distorted-type sounds, or what? "No matter how we adjust the loopstart, end, or crossfading, we get this annoying break, like the sound stops and then plays the attack of the sound again." 1. Normalize Gain on the wave...It'll take out a lot of the irregularities in the WS and help it loop a little better. 2. I don't care what anyone sez...turn off auto-loop finding =) If you turn it off, you can increment through the bits one by one, instead of where the computer thinks it finds a zero crossing. It speeds up the process because many times you can find a crossing that's close before the computer can (well, at least I can =). Get the tick as quiet as possible (I agree with Kon...try to get it on a "high" sounding pop rather than a "low" sounding one...It'll save you grief later). 3. Try using a bidirectional loop, if it's appropriate for the sample (if not, do it anyway...weird is beautiful). Try using the bidirectional x-fade. 4. Finally, if this doesn't work, try using the synthesized loop...be warned though, it can seriously mangle the sound...It may not resemble the original sound much (although this can be kinda k00l). "Crossfading helps, but only halfway-- we still get a very noticable break." 5. This may be obvious, but be sure that there's no dead space at the end of your sample, and that the loop start begins after the initial attack of the WS harmonics...If that's not really feasible, once again, try the bidirectional loop...this often can help smooth over irregular attacks and decays. 6. Play with ENV3 a bit. Try RAMP UP (and adjust the time of point 1) if there's a pop at the beginning of the WS... Good luck! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Mon Mar 7 09:09:48 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 09:08 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA00640; Mon, 7 Mar 94 12:07:46 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D7B89BE@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Mon, 07 Mar 94 12:08:30 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Formatted Syquests... Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 11:59:00 EST Message-Id: <2D7B89BE@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Well, in my never-ending quest for a HD for my EPS, I have yet another question...Can you reformat a Syquest Cart that's already been formatted by another platform (i.e. Mac)? I know that's not always possible with a floppy, and someone is selling a drive and 6 carts, whcich won't do me any good if I can't reformat them as EPS disks. Thanks! BTW, I'm getting closer...I've placed the order for an Ensoniq 4x expander and SCSI...yea! I just might join the '90's =) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU!Z_MCDANIELCM Mon Mar 7 09:37:02 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 144.96.128.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 09:35 PST Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:44:57 -0600 (CST) From: Z_MCDANIELCM@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <940307114457.2c61788f@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU> Subject: error 129 - reboot? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somebody help me... i spent the entire weekend sampling (all day all night) and saved the samples as disk images (eps2) to my mac's hard drive... everytime i write them to disks (already formatted of course...) and load them into the 16+ everything looks normal... then when i try to play (sometimes before then even...) i get the dreaded 129 reboot... what in god's name am i doing wrong??? i guess i'll end up losing a weekends worth of work... wahhh!!! i'm using os 1.30 and some of the samples are multi disk... i just started using EPSm and this was the first time i'd relied on it... i had only nosed around to see how it worked before... it always worked fine when i was just playing with it... now between the mac and the eps... one of them has decided to go and get finicky on me... i can't export anything into alchemy as it works buggily at best with my interface and most of the samples are keyboard splits with pads/vocals or drum kits i built this weekend... eek! thanks in advance... for helping out an idiot... (i just gotta learn the hard way...) later... cody z_mcdanielcm@ccsvax.sfasu.edu From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Mon Mar 7 10:26:59 1994 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 10:26 PST Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <292971>; Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:26:11 -0500 Received: from terra.cse.psu.edu by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00540; Mon, 7 Mar 94 13:25:58 EST From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9403071825.AA00540@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: Looping To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:21:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <2D7B71B1@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; from "Winer, Greg" at Mar 7, 94 10:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Winer, Greg wrote: | |"Hey, we're trying to loop some nasty techno sounds, and well, we're having | trouble with it." | |Beats, pads, distorted-type sounds, or what? | |"No matter how we adjust the loopstart, end, or crossfading, we get this | annoying break, like the sound stops and then plays the attack of the sound | again." | |1. Normalize Gain on the wave...It'll take out a lot of the irregularities in |the WS and help it loop a little better. Normalize Gain just normalizes the whole sample... it doesn't alter the overall shape of the WS. Volume Smoothing does that. |2. I don't care what anyone sez...turn off auto-loop finding =) If you turn |it off, you can increment through the bits one by one, instead of where the |computer thinks it finds a zero crossing. It speeds up the process because |many times you can find a crossing that's close before the computer can |(well, at least I can =). Get the tick as quiet as possible (I agree with |Kon...try to get it on a "high" sounding pop rather than a "low" sounding |one...It'll save you grief later). You have to do this (IMHO) for bidirectional loops, but for unidirectional ones it's easier to leave auto-loop on until you get something close. Then, turn it off and fine-tune. |3. Try using a bidirectional loop, if it's appropriate for the sample (if |not, do it anyway...weird is beautiful). Try using the bidirectional x-fade. Yup. You'd be surprised at what you can get... :) |4. Finally, if this doesn't work, try using the synthesized loop...be warned |though, it can seriously mangle the sound...It may not resemble the original |sound much (although this can be kinda k00l). It usually sounds somewhat metallic... but that's cool for techno-stuff. |"Crossfading helps, but only halfway-- we still get a very noticable break." | |5. This may be obvious, but be sure that there's no dead space at the end of |your sample, and that the loop start begins after the initial attack of the |WS harmonics...If that's not really feasible, once again, try the |bidirectional loop...this often can help smooth over irregular attacks and |decays. | |6. Play with ENV3 a bit. Try RAMP UP (and adjust the time of point 1) if |there's a pop at the beginning of the WS... You don't need to affect the whole envelope... if you set the first level to 0, and the first time to something short, you get a quick fade-in that skips the pop. And if you want, you can use the attack velocity parameter to make it give you the pop if you pound on it hard enough... sometimes cool for bass or punch. |Good luck! | |=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | j a c k i n , b a b y: | g r e g o r y |n a t i o n o f t e f l o n | s o u l s |=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | my opinions do not neccesarily |reflect the views of my employer Yeah Ted. :) I want to hear it when it's done! -- Shroom From ipgate.hartford.edu!blecher%uhavax.dnet Mon Mar 7 19:52:46 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 137.49.1.153 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 19:51 PST Received: by ipgate.hartford.edu (5.57/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA10785; Mon, 7 Mar 94 22:28:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 22:28:04 -0500 Message-Id: <9403080328.AA10785@ipgate.hartford.edu> From: blecher%uhavax.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu To: "eps@reed.edu"%IPGATE.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu Subject: reading eps samples on the pc Hi all, I am new to this whole internet thing and I just found out about this site a few days ago. Since then, I have discovered how to transfer samples back and forth from my EPS 16+ and 486, using EPSDisk and the other progs on this site. To say the least, I find this really cool. I got the process of turning an AIFF file into an EPS inst down pat. But the reverse is not true.. I cannot seem to get the computer to translate the EPS data correctly. I am using instedit to explode the instrument to its wavesamples and assorted parameters, and then WSD2SND to translate it to the SND format (actually I usually bypass this step.) The problem is that in the exploded sample I am getting corrupted data every 10-12000 bytes. It's like white noise. It lasts for the same exact length and repeats for the same interval for the entire sample. Sometimes, however, I just get no data at all for that period, just zero voltage. Kinda strange, eh? This data is not inserted into the samples, it replaces the original data. I have attempted to do this many times in and out of windows, but no luck. I know that it is not my sample editor (Cool) because I opened the file in an editor and there was no data for approc (whoops!) approx 10000 bytes. I find this really frustrating, because I am so close to be able to time compress and expand loops using the sample editor and then port them back to the EPS. Does anyone else have the same problem Can someone out there help me? On a happier note, I look forward to uploading some samples to reed as soon as I get some free time. Thanks for listening! :) Justin (blecher@uhavax.hartford.edu) From vm.utcc.utoronto.ca!UREGINA1.BITNET!KEELERJA Mon Mar 7 20:11:09 1994 Return-Path: <@vm.utcc.utoronto.ca:KEELERJA@UREGINA1.BITNET> Received: from 128.100.100.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Mar 94 20:10 PST Message-Id: Received: from MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA by vm.utcc.utoronto.ca (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7983; Mon, 07 Mar 94 23:11:42 EST Received: by UREGINA1 (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) id 1169; Mon, 07 Mar 94 18:35:16 CST Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 18:16:45 CST From: Jason Keeler Subject: Roland -> Ensoniq To: EPS@REED.EDU Just thought I'd pass this idea along to those of you looking for other ways to increase your sample libraries. For those of you who don't already know, there is a Roland Sampler user group much the same as what we have here. They also have various utilities (Mac and PC) for transferring samples back and forth. Anyhow, there is a really easy way to get those samples to your EPS/ASR if you own a PC. What you need are 2 utilities: One is called SDISK (which is very similar to EPSDISK and the other is called SAM2TONE. Both of these can be found via ftp at lotus.uwaterloo.ca. There are also dozens of disk images there :) You will only need SAMDISK if you creating you own images from Roland disks. After you have the image file, just run SAM2TONE. This will list all of the samples in the image. From here you can simply choose the sample you want and save it in one of the 6 or so formats. You will likely want to save in .AIF format which leads me to the next step. Once you have the xyz.aif file, simply run it through AIF2EFE (found on Reed), and then use EPSDISK to write the instrument file to disk and voila! I have now converted about 4 disks and I must say I've been relatively pleased. I will admit though, that this conversion isn't 100% foolproof and you may occasionally get a bad conversion. You should find however, that many of the samples will convert quite nicely. I'm not sure if SDISK and/or SAM2TONE will handle the 16-bit S770 images so would someone PLEASE let me know if this works. Have fun! Jason Keeler From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Tue Mar 8 00:34:31 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 00:33 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16496; Tue, 8 Mar 94 10:36:07 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: SampleVision and ASR To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 10:36:07 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Has anyone managed to get samplevision to work with the ASR? I've looked over all the specs and data formats and can't find any reason why it shouldn't. Maybe it's time to try load the EPS16+ OS into the ASR :) Later -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From hvgtw.att.com!hvss07!jvdbroec Tue Mar 8 01:57:48 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.20.239.133 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 01:56 PST From: hvss07!jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com Received: by hvss07 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06018; Tue, 8 Mar 94 10:51:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 10:51:23 +0100 Original-From: hvss07!jvdbroec Message-Id: <9403080951.AA06018@hvss07> To: reed.edu!eps Subject: Sample Conversion Utils (was: Roland --> Ensoniq) Great news from Jason Keeler on the R -> E sample conversion. Since AIFF files can be im/exported in Wave for Windows, I am looking for a util to convert Ensoniq samples to AIFF (reverse of AIF2EFE), or would this be too destructive ? thanks, Just A. van den Broecke - AT&T NS NL - The Netherlands jvdbroec@hvss07.att.com P.S. - I'm not a Roland user :), but an upcoming ASR10 owner; - I couldn't find SAM2TONE on lotus.uwaterloo.ca (is in some archive file?) From tsd.itg.ti.com!borch Tue Mar 8 06:35:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.94.94.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 06:35 PST Received: from itg.ti.com ([128.247.93.50]) by lobby.ti.com with SMTP (5.65c/LAI-3.2) id AA12269; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:35:39 -0600 Received: from am.tsd.itg.ti.com by itg.ti.com (4.1/ITG-1.1) id AA05628; Tue, 8 Mar 94 07:16:07 CST Received: from ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com (ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com [128.247.23.24]) by am.tsd.itg.ti.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA00197 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:16:05 -0600 Received: from localhost (borch@localhost) by ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA01371 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:18:27 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:18:27 -0600 From: Mark Borcherding Message-Id: <199403081318.HAA01371@ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Where to ftp? I have not ftp'd to the Reed EPS site in a while and ftp's to ftp.reed.edu and nexttues.reed.edu do not seem to get me anywhere. nexttues has no anonymous and on ftp.reed.edu I did not find any EPS stuff. Can someone tell me where it is and how I ftp to it? T.h.a..n.k..s -.Mark From aol.com!bizybacksn Tue Mar 8 08:07:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.203.190.181 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 08:07 PST Received: by mailgate.prod.aol.net (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29303; Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:06:07 -0500 From: bizybacksn@aol.com X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: "bizybacksn" Message-Id: <9403081106.tn335615@aol.com> To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 11:06:04 EST Subject: Macintosh software? Hey everyone! I'm new to the eps@reed list. I have an ASR-10 and a Macintosh Centris 650. The reason I subscribed is I'd like to share & swap samples. BUT I don't have the necessary Mac conversion to ASR program. Can someone tell me exactly what it's called & where to find it? I searched the directory for a while but couldn't find one. Thanks, Derek Sivers, NYC BizyBacksn@aol.com From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Tue Mar 8 11:13:12 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:12 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA08065 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 8 Mar 94 14:13:09 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa08064; 8 Mar 94 13:11 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00563; Tue, 08 Mar 94 13:12:17 CST Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 13:12:17 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403081312.A00563@smtpgate.lante.com> To: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Formatted Syquests... Text item: Re: Formatted Syquests... >> Can you reformat a Syquest Cart that's already been formatted by another platform (i.e. Mac)? Yes... That EPS format routine is gonna go out there and trash those old Mac cart you found at work! :-) Go nuts dude! From CompuServe.COM!72203.2303 Tue Mar 8 11:54:18 1994 Return-Path: <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> Received: from 198.4.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 11:53 PST Received: from localhost by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.4/5.930129sam) id OAA24169; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 14:53:38 -0500 Date: 08 Mar 94 14:50:00 EST From: Garth Hjelte <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> To: INTERNET Mailing List Subject: Macintosh software? Message-ID: <940308195000_72203.2303_GHB36-1@CompuServe.COM> Received: from 192.204.28.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 13:59 PST Received: by voicenet.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27323; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:59:08 +0500 >Received: by satalink (PCB-UUCP 1.1c) id 514C88; Tue, 8 Mar 94 16:00:24 -0640 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Disk trades From: legion@satalink.com (Legion) Message-Id: <1.77815.14.0C514C88@satalink.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 94 15:58:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 489 Sorry to bother the list with this... Would the guy who posted about a snail mail disk trading thang please contact me. I've tried to email you but it keeps bouncing. YOu mentione dsomething about new Korg 3 samples in your last post and a snail mailing list. please send me the current list of samples and add my name. I have 100's of disks of everything imaginable to trade to all... Thanks! Email: Legion@satalink.com Snail: Help Wanted productions P.O. Box 2205 Phila., Pa 19103 From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Tue Mar 8 18:21:23 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 18:19 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA09554 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 8 Mar 94 21:18:39 -0500 Received: from [198.242.252.125] by inetgate.lante.com id aa08521; 8 Mar 94 20:16 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00577; Tue, 08 Mar 94 20:16:20 CST Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 20:16:20 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403082016.A00577@smtpgate.lante.com> To: 72203.2303@compuserve.com Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: SV, SCSI, ASR-10 Text item: Re: SV, SCSI, ASR-10 >> Yes, cool (!!!!!), but what about a Samplevision driver for the ASR-10 as well? It doesn't work with the 16+ driver as of right now. Yep, you're right... It's a bit buggy. I heard from them the other day and the good folk at Malvern has pointed them to something a bit on the weird side. I hear that a new driver is due out in the next couple of weeks. From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Tue Mar 8 18:30:12 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 18:29 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA10330 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 8 Mar 94 21:27:45 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa08526; 8 Mar 94 20:26 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00578; Tue, 08 Mar 94 20:26:55 CST Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 20:26:55 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403082026.A00578@smtpgate.lante.com> To: alan@ak.msc.edu Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI Text item: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI >> I'm crossing fingers hoping they figure out a way around the slow SCSI problem. If they do, it'll be a big breakthrough. I heard today that Malvern has cast new information upon the good folk at TB... What they're thinking that you're seeing is a nasty timeout problem. A new driver is due out in the next couple of weeks from what I understand. Keep on top of TB and I'll pass on whatever else I find out. From RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU!MCA94ISB13 Tue Mar 8 19:35:32 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 134.241.10.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 19:35 PST Received: from RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU by RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU (PMDF V4.2-13 #4844) id <01H9QUNVH5MOAUZDET@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>; Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:33:34 EST Date: Tue, 08 Mar 1994 22:33:34 -0500 (EST) From: MCA94ISB13@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU Subject: what da *@#$%* is going on?!? To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01H9QUNVH5MQAUZDET@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello out there, fellow EPS16+ users...can anybody explain what it means when your eps on startup begins to talk in a different language, or no language at all? I mean like, when I turn it on, the screen says nothing at all, or something like "hdufugdkujdfgkeir..." This has happenedto me now several times in the past month, but only after moving my eps from my studio to my house + back!!! I think maybe something is loose. I also thinkthat thay little loose something is gonna cost me big! Does anybody have a clue to what da heck is going on here? THANX IN ADVANCE FOR ANY REPLIES! peace out-RoBoTkId "people making music with intellegent beings from another planet... does this seem far fetched to you?..."-INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY From vm.utcc.utoronto.ca!UREGINA1.BITNET!KEELERJA Tue Mar 8 21:16:26 1994 Return-Path: <@vm.utcc.utoronto.ca:KEELERJA@UREGINA1.BITNET> Received: from 128.100.100.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Mar 94 21:15 PST Message-Id: Received: from MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA by vm.utcc.utoronto.ca (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3871; Wed, 09 Mar 94 00:16:52 EST Received: by UREGINA1 (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) id 9000; Tue, 08 Mar 94 23:16:10 CST Date: Tue, 08 Mar 94 23:14:43 CST From: Jason Keeler Subject: SAM2TONE To: EPS@REED.EDU Hi; Sorry about the SAM2TONE utility. I thought someone had put it on lotus.uwaterloo.ca. Anyway, I have created an archive of those utilities and attempted to put them on reed.edu but was denied permission. If someone could tell me how to upload, I'd be glad to. Jason From hvgtw.att.com!hvss07!jvdbroec Wed Mar 9 01:36:36 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.20.239.133 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Mar 94 01:36 PST From: hvss07!jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com Received: by hvss07 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12787; Wed, 9 Mar 94 10:26:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 94 10:26:48 +0100 Original-From: hvss07!jvdbroec Message-Id: <9403090926.AA12787@hvss07> To: reed.edu!eps Subject: Re: reading eps samples on the pc Justin (blecher@uhavax.hartford.edu) wrote: > I am using INSTEDIT > to explode the instrument to its wavesamples and assorted parameters, and then > WSD2SND to translate it to the SND format (actually I usually bypass this step.) > The problem is that in the exploded sample I am getting corrupted data every > 10-12000 bytes. It's like white noise. It lasts for the same exact length and > repeats for the same interval for the entire sample. Sometimes, however, I > just get no data at all for that period, just zero voltage... I think I found the cause of this, stumbling on the same problem last night: INSTEDIT attempts to read blocks of 10240 bytes from the .INS file to write to the .WSD file. However, it never checks that it actually _got_ all those bytes, but still writes a (mostly 00-padded) 10240 chunk to the .WSD.... Still there ? The code fix is easy, details are appended. I'm new to this list; is the INSTEDIT-author still around ? Otherwise I may provide the fix. There may be a stopgap fix: all kinds of size variables are set in CONFIG.SYS, There may even be one related to I/O buffer size. Setting it to > 10240 may solve it. Some PC guru from this list (I'm quite new to DOS, as a former Atarian) may fill me in. hope one Just has helped the other, Just A. van den Broecke - AT&T NS NL - The Netherlands jvdbroec@hvss07.att.com --------------- ATTACHMENT: details of problem + a solution --------------- Note: more functions in instedit have the same 'copy-loop', but probably only the wave data size will exceed 10240, i.e. causing busize=BUFSIZE; // instedit.cpp --- routines to act on instrument files . . void SaveWaves(char* fn, char* odir) { . . #define BUFSIZE 10240 char buf[BUFSIZE]; . . while (datasize > 0) { if (datasize >= BUFSIZE) bufsize = BUFSIZE; else bufsize = datasize; fread(buf,1,bufsize,fp); <--- no check if bufsize # of bytes read. fwrite(buf,1,bufsize,ofp); <--- should write actual #of bytes read datasize -= bufsize; } . . } PROPOSED FIX (something like this; not yet tested): while (datasize > 0) { // Read largest chunk possible; write returned block bytes_read = fread(buf,1, BUFSIZE,fp); bytes_written = fwrite(buf,1, bytes_read,ofp); // Check if copy went OK if (bytes_written != bytes_read) ERROR("SaveWaves: R/W error!"); else datasize -= bytes_written; } . . From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Wed Mar 9 09:10:40 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Mar 94 09:08 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA20865 for eps@reed.edu; Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:07:03 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa09304; 9 Mar 94 11:05 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00585; Wed, 09 Mar 94 11:06:00 CST Date: Wed, 09 Mar 94 11:06:00 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403091106.A00585@smtpgate.lante.com> To: alan@ak.msc.edu Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Subject: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI Text item: Subject: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI >> I'm crossing fingers hoping they figure out a way around the slow SCSI problem. If they do, it'll be a big breakthrough. I heard today that Malvern has cast new information upon the good folk at TB... What they're thinking that you're seeing is a nasty timeout problem. A new driver is due out in the next couple of weeks from what I understand. Keep on top of TB and I'll pass on whatever else I find out. DisplaySubject: Subject: Re: SampleVision, EPS-16, SCSI From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Wed Mar 9 12:21:26 1994 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Mar 94 12:20 PST Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <294847>; Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:20:14 -0500 Received: from terra.cse.psu.edu by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03789; Wed, 9 Mar 94 15:20:08 EST From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9403092020.AA03789@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: reading eps samples on the pc To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 15:15:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9403090926.AA12787@hvss07>; from "jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com" at Mar 9, 94 4:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] hvss07!jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com wrote: | |Justin (blecher@uhavax.hartford.edu) wrote: | |I think I found the cause of this, stumbling on the same problem last night: |INSTEDIT attempts to read blocks of 10240 bytes from the .INS file to write |to the .WSD file. However, it never checks that it actually _got_ all those |bytes, but still writes a (mostly 00-padded) 10240 chunk to the .WSD.... |Still there ? The code fix is easy, details are appended. I'm new to |this list; is the INSTEDIT-author still around ? Otherwise I may |provide the fix. Just tried it... no white noise, but the sound is still wrong. Parts of the sound repeat! I'll try smaller buffer sizes and let you know if it helps. The unguarded reads and writes were apparently doing the right thing, say the debugging code... somehow the data being read and written is corrupted. I'll get back to you. -- Mike [rest deleted] From lise.unit.no!thammer Thu Mar 10 04:27:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.241.36.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 04:27 PST Received: from lise6.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id (5.65c8/pvv-4.2-hybrid for ); Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:26:41 +0100 From: Thomas Hammer Received: by lise6.lise.unit.no ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:26:39 +0100 Message-Id: <199403101226.AA09188@lise6.lise.unit.no> Subject: Re: Sample Conversion Utils (was: Roland --> Ensoniq) To: hvss07!jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:26:37 +0100 (MET) Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9403080951.AA06018@hvss07> from "jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com" at Mar 8, 94 10:51:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 698 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 > > Great news from Jason Keeler on the R -> E sample > conversion. Since AIFF files can be im/exported in Wave > for Windows, I am looking for a util to convert > Ensoniq samples to AIFF (reverse of AIF2EFE), or would > this be too destructive ? > > > Just A. van den Broecke - AT&T NS NL - The Netherlands > jvdbroec@hvss07.att.com > Excuse me, but: what is Wave for Windows, and is it available on the net somewhere? As for EFE2AIFF, you can do INS2AIFF with GoldWave with some minor manual editing. Load .ins-file as 16-bit mono signed byteswap, and export as AIFF. I think someone uploaded GoldWave to reed, if not, I've got a spare copy. Thomas Hammer thammer@lise.unit.no From ipgate.hartford.edu!blecher%uhavax.dnet Thu Mar 10 07:21:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 137.49.1.153 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 07:20 PST Received: by ipgate.hartford.edu (5.57/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09114; Thu, 10 Mar 94 10:19:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 10:19:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9403101519.AA09114@ipgate.hartford.edu> From: blecher%uhavax.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu To: "eps@reed.edu"%IPGATE.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu Subject: Re: reading eps samples on the pc Greetings all, I just want to thank all of the people who responded so promptly to my problem...i just downloaded the fixed instedit.exe from \eps\incoming (I think), and it works like a charm. I guess the changes that Mike made worked. Thanks a whole lot!!! You're a lifesaver, Mike. I cannot thank you enough. Just one question: does this file replace the entire old version? Anyway, I have this shareware waveform editor called COOL. It works in Windows and I think it is an amazing editor (you have to see it to believe it). I does EQ, time compression\expansion and pitch shifting (albeit not great, but definitely passable), envelopes, wave generation (brain waves, too), and a slew of other features, too. It reads AIFF, WAV, Raw samples, VOC, ADPCM, etc. But what is really cool is that you can edit a 16-bit sample and listen to it on the PC spaeker or 8-bit soundcard without reducing it to 8-bits. Perfect for the EPS :) I have Goldwave, NoiseMaster2, WHAM, and others on my system, but I think that cool stands out as, well...the coolest. I'll upload it to this site and you can see for yourself. Sorry if I rambled on a little too much. Gotta go transmorgify some samples! -Justin (blecher@uhavax.hartford,edu) From coral.bucknell.edu!dbell Thu Mar 10 09:08:02 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 134.82.7.253 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 09:07 PST Received: by coral.bucknell.edu (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA25409; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 12:07:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 12:07:12 -0500 From: Bell David W Message-Id: <9403101707.AA25409@coral.bucknell.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Macintosh sample editing... I'm using Sample Editor on my Mac to do simple editing, but I'm very jealous to see a PC user doing time compression/expansion with a shareware program. Does anyone know of any shareware sample editing programs that are better than Sample Editor? Thanks in advance. Cya. -- Dave Bell -- dbell@coral.bucknell.edu From uahis1.uah.edu!ebs330!claassen Thu Mar 10 11:48:04 1994 Return-Path: <@uahis1.uah.edu:claassen@ebs330> Received: from 146.229.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 11:46 PST Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:50:21 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29401; Thu, 10 Mar 94 13:40:34 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9403101940.AA29401@ebs330> Subject: AIFF from EPS to Mac To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:40:27 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 649 Ok, i've dumped a lot of AIFF files from my Mac to my EPS using EPSm, but last night i wanted to bring some samples back from the EPS to the Mac for mutilation and suddenly discovered that i cannot do it. I can only save my samples in EPS wavesample format. AM i overlooking something. BTW, anyone have experience with Alchemy using the SCSI dump to the EPS. Does it work? And for that matter pulling them from the EPS into Alchemy? -- Arne F. Claassen |"In cows we trust | EPS Classic * D4 | E pluribus Moo" | Juno 106 | MTV for eMpty minds | Mac Centris 650 From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Thu Mar 10 14:23:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 14:22 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <03358-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 23:22:18 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Thu, 10 Mar 1994 23:22:15 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 23:22:15 +0100 Message-Id: <9403102222.AAfidibus12976@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje Finstad) X-Sender: tgf@fidibus.uio.no Subject: Re: Macintosh sample editing... >I'm using Sample Editor on my Mac to do simple editing, but >I'm very jealous to see a PC user doing time compression/expansion >with a shareware program. Does anyone know of any shareware >sample editing programs that are better than Sample Editor? "Sample Editor" is an 8 bit editor and and is for editing Mac beep sounds. Then I can see you want something else. Some compression/expansion comments You can do timecompression/expansion with Csound. It is free. But if you spent the time it takes to learn how to use it on selling burgers at your local King instead, then you could buy any editor you wanted. - and a PC too :-) You can do time compression with the program Lemur developed in the CERL group at the University of Illinois. It has been on info-mac archives on the internet. You can do time compression with one of the WaveBoy effect floppies if you have an EPS16+ or an ASR10. The WaveBoy adress is in the FAQ. Bring a hat, sunglasses and a harmonica and you should be able to collect the nessecary funds during one morning. ( unless you actually can play harmonica ;-) Editor comments (well, if one don't want to spend anything I.m afraid there is little to say:-( Try to get hold of an old demo version of Sound Designer by Digidesign, It does not do a whole lot and you cannot comunicate over Midi with your sampler. When the demos were released you could not save your edited files to disk. This was when no Macs had large enough memory to hold large samples in RAM, so the sample would be in a temporary file. Originally you could not acess that. Under system 7 you can. So you just duplicate the temporary file. :-) ( I have done this. I do have the real version also, but it won't run under sys 7) Since you asked about shareware I'll share this with you. You can get a special deal on Passports Professional Music Production Kit Software CD ROM from 1990 containing among other Alchemy. It's now at $1700! (same as here in 1990) Terje From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Thu Mar 10 15:09:00 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.107.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 15:07 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA06222 for eps@reed.edu; Thu, 10 Mar 94 18:08:53 -0500 Received: from [198.242.252.125] by inetgate.lante.com id aa10937; 10 Mar 94 17:04 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00602; Thu, 10 Mar 94 17:04:46 CST Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 17:04:46 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403101704.A00602@smtpgate.lante.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SampleVision and SCSI Text item: SampleVision and SCSI Okay all, new word from Turtle Beach... Bottom Line: Don't look for SCSI support for the EPS, EPS 16, or ASR-10 in SampleVision before SV for Windows comes out. The problem is in the way that Ensoniq chose to deal with SCSI... It seems that there's no way for the receiver (SV in this case) to pause an incoming data dump. In actuality you would need enough memory in the PC to hold a full sized sample from the EPS/ASR, or 16meg on a good day. TB's position is that any further work on the current SV to deal with this, (implementing DPMI support), would only hold up the forthcoming SV for Windows. So... you're outta luck until then. When is "then"? Summerish is now the best guess... On better fronts... Those of you having problems with an ASR-10 on MIDI with Sample Vision should pick up the new driver. The easiest way is to download it from the TB Beachcomber BBS: (717) 765-0250 for 9600 and up (717) 765-5934 for under 9600 From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Thu Mar 10 15:27:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 15:27 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <07973-0@pat.uio.no>; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 00:26:56 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 00:26:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 00:26:53 +0100 Message-Id: <9403102326.AAfidibus13647@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje Finstad) X-Sender: tgf@fidibus.uio.no Subject: Re: AIFF from EPS to Mac + ? Arne informs >Ok, i've dumped a lot of AIFF files from my Mac to my EPS using EPSm, but >last night i wanted to bring some samples back from the EPS to the Mac for >mutilation and suddenly discovered that i cannot do it. I can only save >my samples in EPS wavesample format. AM i overlooking something. > When you export the samples from EPSm they are saved in Sound Designer Type 1 format. "Mutilators" such as Alchemy, TurboSynth or Sound Designer will all read those. What other multilators should one know aboat? stEPS exports in several formats though. Terje Multilating is not really part of my vocabulary, so I might have jumped right on. :-) + BTW Since Arne Is out there, How is it going with the move of the mailing list and the ftp site?. From ipgate.hartford.edu!blecher%uhavax.dnet Thu Mar 10 15:53:18 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 137.49.1.153 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Mar 94 15:51 PST Received: by ipgate.hartford.edu (5.57/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA12770; Thu, 10 Mar 94 18:50:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 18:50:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9403102350.AA12770@ipgate.hartford.edu> From: blecher%uhavax.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu To: "eps@reed.edu"%IPGATE.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu Subject: Re: reading eps samples on the pc I'm back, First off: Mike, I don't necessarily need WSD2SND because I can do a byte swap in my editor; no sense in double files :) Next: I just uploaded my favorite editor, COOL. You'll find it in the \eps\inc oming directory. There are two files a .txt and the .zip - read the .txt first. This is my first attempt, so... Enjoy, Justin (blecher@uhavax.hartford.edu) From rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu!rmvrshek Fri Mar 11 08:40:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 138.87.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 11 Mar 94 08:38 PST Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA53063; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:38:28 -0600 From: rmvrshek@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Robert M. Vrshek) Message-Id: <9403111638.AA53063@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: I need docs for the samples To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:38:27 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 567 I joined this list, but I haven't received any documentation about how to use the system. Nobody sent me the anonymous password I need to get in. Somebody please send me any documentation and the password necessary to download samples to Cakewalk Windows on a pc. Thanks! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Stephenwolf "Trecyloben Morphate kills within seconds, and even makes the target enemy enjoy the experience." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From Cadence.COM!noah Fri Mar 11 13:53:34 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 158.140.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:52 PST Received: from localhost (smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA29483 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:52:16 -0800 Received: from cadence.cadence.com(158.140.18.1) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma029433; Fri Mar 11 13:51:51 1994 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:39:40 -0800 From: noah@cadence.com (Noah Ruiz) Message-Id: <9403112139.AA25096@cadence.Cadence.COM> Received: by cadence.Cadence.COM (5.61/3.14) id AA25096; Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:39:40 -0800 To: eps@reed.edu ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 smtpgate.lante.com (tcp)... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with smtpgate.lante.com ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from reed.edu by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA15745 for pulverm@smtpgate.lante.com; Mon, 28 Feb 94 14:51:23 -0500 Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 28 Feb 94 09:57 PST Received: from localhost (smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id JAA01409; Mon, 28 Feb 1994 09:57:12 -0800 Received: from cadence.cadence.com(158.140.18.1) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma001366; Mon Feb 28 09:56:47 1994 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 09:46:21 -0800 >From: noah@cadence.com (Noah Ruiz) Message-Id: <9402281746.AA15088@cadence.Cadence.COM> Received: by cadence.Cadence.COM (5.61/3.14) id AA15088; Mon, 28 Feb 94 09:46:21 -0800 To: 72203.2303@CompuServe.COM, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: ASR Midi Dump/receive? >From 72203.2303@CompuServe.COM Sat Feb 26 20:50:53 1994 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com by cadence.Cadence.COM (5.61/3.14) id AA14660; Sat, 26 Feb 94 20:50:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA01811 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 21:01:03 -0800 Received: from reed.edu(134.10.2.45) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma001798; Sat Feb 26 21:00:13 1994 Received: from 198.4.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 26 Feb 94 20:32 PST Received: from localhost by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.4/5.930129sam) id XAA01624; Sat, 26 Feb 1994 23:32:31 -0500 Date: 26 Feb 94 23:28:51 EST >From: Garth Hjelte <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> To: INTERNET Mailing List Subject: ASR Midi Dump/receive? Message-Id: <940227042851_72203.2303_DHS93-1@CompuServe.COM> Status: R Legion wrote: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 11 Mar 94 17:40 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA12048 for eps@reed.edu; Fri, 11 Mar 94 20:39:36 -0500 Received: from [198.242.252.125] by inetgate.lante.com id aa11840; 11 Mar 94 10:21 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00604; Fri, 11 Mar 94 10:22:05 CST Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 10:22:05 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403111022.A00604@smtpgate.lante.com> To: thammer@lise.unit.no Cc: hvss07!jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Sample Conversion Utils (was: Roland --> Ensoniq) Text item: Re: Sample Conversion Utils (was: Roland --> Ensoniq) >> Excuse me, but: what is Wave for Windows, and is it available on the net somewhere? Wave for Windows is a commercial software package from Turtle Beach Sound. It's a Windows .WAV file editor. Some consider it the best of the breed. Turtle Beach Systems 52 Grumbacher Road York, PA 17402 USA (717) 767-0200 voice (717) 767-6033 fax (717) 767-0250 BBS (9600+) There are demo versions running around on BBSs, and possible here on the Net somewhere. From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Sat Mar 12 01:10:25 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 12 Mar 94 01:10 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29331; Sat, 12 Mar 94 11:12:46 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: SampleVision drivers for ASR-10 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 12 Mar 94 11:12:46 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I tried the samplevision ASR-10 drivers... but nothing worked. :( Anyone actually have any luck? -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Sat Mar 12 05:52:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 12 Mar 94 05:50 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01934; Sat, 12 Mar 94 15:53:34 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: re Samplevision Drivers for ASR-10 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 12 Mar 94 15:53:33 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] No, I'm trying out the new improved asr-10 driver :) (it's still called EPS.SDV btw) Maybe i'm doing something wrong!? My midiport seems right and I've got my MIDI SYSEX set to on... but it cant find wavesample parameters or layer parameters (timeout error). Help? :) Later -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU!Z_MCDANIELCM Sat Mar 12 13:11:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 144.96.128.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 12 Mar 94 13:11 PST Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 15:10:02 -0600 (CST) From: Z_MCDANIELCM@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <940312151002.2c62c292@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU> Subject: kon's problems... >Maybe i'm doing something wrong!? My midiport seems right and I've got >my MIDI SYSEX set to on... but it cant find wavesample parameters or >layer parameters (timeout error). granted... i don't use the 'hopped up 16+' (ASR 10) but i have had similar troubles with Alchemy... MIDI sys-ex to on... MIDI poly mode... my interface is d/a driven and is outdated... (a southworth...) every time i get done with a transfer i have to go back and reset the interface as it defaults to thru... do you have a MIDI loop? with Alchemy it is required that the ins go to the outs and vice/versa... that way the computer and the EPS can continually communicate with each other throughout the transfer... give it a shot like that... just remember that if you're not using the ASR as a controller you'll have to reroute your setup when it's done or change some settings to prevent the dreaded MIDI echo... sorry i couldn't have helped more... i answered 'cause it looked like nobody else had... good luck with it.... how's the snail-mail trade working out? later... cody z_mcdanielcm@ccsvax.sfasu.edu From sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au!steveq Sat Mar 12 18:25:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.203.228.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 12 Mar 94 18:25 PST Received: from sndcrft.UUCP (scuucp@localhost) by perth.dialix.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) with UUCP id KAA00208 for reed.edu!eps; Sun, 13 Mar 1994 10:25:14 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0e6f@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; Sat, 12 Mar 94 15:41:42 PST Date: Sat, 12 Mar 94 15:41:42 PST Message-Id: <9403122341.0e6f@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> Errors-To: postmaster@reed.edu Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Monthly posting of FAQ THE EPS USERS SURVIVAL KIT Contents: EPS users mailing list. Transoniq Hacker information. Selected Software. Bug List. ********************** EPS users mailing list ************************* The EPS mailing list is for the discussion of the Ensoniq EPS family of digital sampling keyboards. Members post questions, answers, informal reviews, and other information. The mailing list includes nearly 115 men and women from North America, Europe, and Australia. Recently sample swapping (via e-mail and ftp) has started. Ask the group how to join in (PD software avaliable). All you need is a PC/Mac/Atari with a 3.5" drive and some way of getting files off the network into the PC /Mac/Atari. To subscribe to the list send your email details to: eps-request@reed.edu The address for the mailing list is: eps@reed.edu When you send email to that address, the machine there sends a copy to each individual on the list. If you have problems or questions about to using the list, send your query to one of these addresses: eps-request@reed.edu owner-eps@reed.edu Please don't send subscribe/unsunscribe requests to the list (eps@reed.edu). Archives of past discussions are available as compressed text files via anonymous ftp to ftp.reed.edu. The file(s) are in /pub/eps/digests, and were compressed using gnuzip. There are quite a few archives available in the format "eps-digestN.z" where N = (1,2,3...N) "eps-digest1.z" starts the archives and covers the period from November 1990 through to now. Our current ftp site is ftp.reed.edu and the subdirectories in this area are /pub/eps: /digests past mailing list messages /docs [also home to the Survival.kit] /incoming drop point for public domain EPS stuff /samples/PD /samples/aiff /samples/demo /samples/misc /samples/vfx /system-software /utils Drop Scott Fisher or Steve Quartly a line if you need further info... scott@psy.uwa.oz.au or steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au ************************* Transoniq Hacker ***************************** Transoniq Hacker (TH) is an independent users support magazine for Ensoniq products. It provides... * Reviews of samples and patches * Software Reviews * New products news * Free Patches (for Ensoniq Synths) * Phone network for free help * Programming tips * How-to articles * Questions and answers (The interface) * Free Classified adds * Interviews * ...and 3rd party company support i.e... Software, Memory Expanders, SCSI Drives etc. In the forum "The Interface" where letters get answered, not only by TH staff but "real" people at Ensoniq, who offer their services for this section. I have subscribed for 4 years now and all I can say is that you SHOULD subscribe, nothing else comes close to TH for supporting us EPS and Ensoniq users in general. TH provide a money back guarantee that if you do not think your subscription has paid for its self in 3 issues (1 a month) then you can claim back your subscription. Alternatively they offer a 3 month "skeptics" subscription offer. There is no-way (practically) that you will get your fingers burnt with them, if you don't like TH you get ALL your money back. First time subscribers get a special deal, 12 monthly issues for $18 US ($25 All others outside the USA) This is $5 off the subscription price. Special "skeptics" deal is 3 issues (3 months) for $5 US ($7 Non US). After the first year you revert to... $23/year (US$32 outside the US). HOW TO SUBSCRIBE? Three methods... 1) Mail your cheque (payable to "Transoniq Hacker") OR your (Mastercard/Visa) number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to... Transoniq Hacker 1402 SW Upland Drive, Portland, OR 97221. Phone: 503/227-6848 (8 a.m. to 9 p.m. PST). 2) Phone their TOLL-FREE 1-800-548-8925 (US only) and give your Mastercard/Visa number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to the answering machine (24 Hour service). 3) Alternatively and this is a real PLUS!! you can contact Eric (the publisher and owner of TH) via Compuserve on... 73260.3353@compuserve.com You can give your (Mastercard/Visa) details to him over the net, with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code. Why not drop him a line and have a chat about TH (say Scott sent you, Eric will go ... Eh? What? Who is that? :-) The other good thing about having email contact with TH is that you can send in letters/articles easily and quickly and have a chat to Eric at the same time. *************************** Selected Software ******************************** You are what you eat right? Well the EPS is what it eats too :-) Without good software the EPS\16 Plus ain't much use. Below are a selection of products that I have found make a difference to the EPS's appeal... Diskette Utilities: For EPS & PCs, Geibler enterprises Ensoniq Diskette Manager (EDM) is a good thing. It formats, copies and does just about everything to not only EPS disks but all Ensoniq Formats (Mirage, ESQ-80, VFX-SD, SD-1). This is also good for storing EPS disks on your PC'd hard disk in DOS format. Makes it easy to send EPS disks via the NET too. For more info, write to Geibler Enterprises 8038 Morgan Road Liverpool, N.Y. 13090 U.S.A. For EPS and ATARI, Steve Quartly has Share-Ware avaliable that he wrote. Does everything EDM does with EPS disks and MORE. Contact Steve at.. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au This is also available at our current ftp site. Effects (for 16 Plus): For the EPS 16 PLus, How long have you been waiting for Ensoniq to add some more FX algorithms to the unit? Waveboy industries have released a whole bunch (16) of new FX (yes brand new!) for the EPS 16 Plus. They load straight into the EPS FX chip (ESP chip) from diskette. One of the algorithms is a PITCH SHIFTER that lets you plug a mic into the EPS and use it as a LIVE FX unit. These FX are SIMPLY BRILLIANT!! For more info... Waveboy Industries. PO Box 233 Paoli PA, 19301 U.S.A. PH: (215) 251-9562. EPS and Midi programming: For those of you struggling with the EPS sysex and MIDI while trying to write your own code there is a whole bunch of EPS sysex routines written in turbo-C avaliable for anonymous ftp... AT: louie.udel.edu IN: /pub/midi/software/ibm The files are eps.README (presented below) and eps.tar.Z eps.README... >This is my library of EPS system-exclusive routines. It includes >routines that implement most of the SysEx messages defined in the Ensoniq >Performance Sampler Extern Command Specification. Those messages that are >not implemented can be simulated by using the Virtual Button Press message. >These routines were written in Turbo C, for the IBM PC and MPU-401, >which explains some of the identifiers. However, it should be simple enough >to port them to any other platform. All of the MPU-specific routines >are defined in 'mpu.c' and 'mpu.h'. There is some IBM-specific stuff in >'eps.c' and 'eps.h', too. These four files should be the only ones you >need to modify. > >I've also included 'epsl.lib', a Turbo C large model library, >containing all of this stuff, for those who can use it. > >If you find any bugs, have comments to make, or just want to send >me a line, I can be reached at arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov . ************************ EPS users bug list **************************** How many times have you seen ERROR 144 - REBOOT? What caused it? Well, Richard Hagen is the keeper of the EPS/EPS 16 PLus BUG LIST. So if you have any BUGS to report or you wan't to know if the BUG you have found is a rare and endangered species send email to... richard@cit.gu.edu.au. ************************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to gain by supporting the above groups, I am simply a satisfied customer, trying to help fellow EPS users. From lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us!markp Sat Mar 12 21:37:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 164.104.30.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 12 Mar 94 21:37 PST Received: by lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25211; Sat, 12 Mar 1994 22:40:13 -0700 From: markp@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us (Mark D Plummer) Message-Id: <9403130540.AA25211@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us> Subject: X3 samples. To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 12 Mar 94 22:40:12 MST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] I seem to remember someone mentioning that they were uploading some Korg X3 samples to ftp.reed.edu. Is that true, and if so, could you tell me what directory it was uploaded to? Thanks in advance. -- ******************************************************************************* * Mark Plummer "What would life be if we had no * * Fort Collins, CO. USA courage to attempt anything?" * * MIDI & 3-D Vincent Van Gogh * * markp@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us Amiga 4000*Quadra 660av*Alesis ADAT*Mackie * ******************************************************************************* From uahis1.uah.edu!ebs330!claassen Sun Mar 13 14:29:43 1994 Return-Path: <@uahis1.uah.edu:claassen@ebs330> Received: from 146.229.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 13 Mar 94 14:29 PST Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Sun, 13 Mar 94 16:25:30 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03706; Sun, 13 Mar 94 16:19:49 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9403132219.AA03706@ebs330> Subject: Re: AIFF from EPS to Mac + ? To: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje Finstad) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 16:19:48 -0600 (CST) Cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) In-Reply-To: <9403102326.AAfidibus13647@fidibus.uio.no> from "Terje Finstad" at Mar 11, 94 00:26:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 713 > BTW Since Arne Is out there, How is it going with the move of the mailing > list and the ftp site?. Well, i suggested it, but never got any sort of response from anyone and i still don't know how i'd set up a mailing list server. For that matter, i do not know the size of the EPS site, hence can't say whether we'd have the room here. If anyone can get me information on any of this, i could look further into it. So far i forgot about it, since i had no reply's (pro or con). -- Arne F. Claassen ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- <<< From "Netwhore Incantations": Blessed be thy MIDI implemtation >>> From lise.unit.no!thammer Mon Mar 14 04:46:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.241.36.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 04:46 PST Received: from lise7.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id (5.65c8/pvv-4.2-hybrid for ); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:45:53 +0100 From: Thomas Hammer Received: by lise7.lise.unit.no ; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:45:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199403141245.AA03173@lise7.lise.unit.no> Subject: Re: Sample Conversion Utils (was: Roland --> Ensoniq) To: hvss07!jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:45:51 +0100 (MET) Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9403101454.AA18237@hvss07> from "jvdbroec@hvgtw.att.com" at Mar 10, 94 03:54:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1179 X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 > > > Excuse me, but: what is Wave for Windows, and is it available on the net > > somewhere? > Wave is a commercial program (about $200) from Turtle Beach Systems. > It is similar to GoldWave. However I only glanced through GW's manual. > Some main features: > - most things GW seems to support > - Wave does all editing direct to disk, thus the size of the > samples does not depend on your PC's RAM > - support for setting up click-free loops (match algoritms) > > > As for EFE2AIFF, you can do INS2AIFF with GoldWave with some minor manual > > editing. > > Load .ins-file as 16-bit mono signed byteswap, and export as AIFF. > > I think someone uploaded GoldWave to reed, if not, I've got a spare copy. > OK, but where can I find INS2AIFF (neither found it with archie or on reed) ? > I have access to all the others on reed. Sorry if I was unclear. What I meant was: You can convert from an .INS file to an .AIFF file using GoldWave. Load the .INS-file into GoldWave (file-open) and specify the parameters mentioned above. then export the file as an .AIFF-file (file-export). All this from WITHIN GoldWave. Hope this helps. :-) Thomas Hammer thammer@lise.unit.no From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Mon Mar 14 06:17:41 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 06:17 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06537; Mon, 14 Mar 94 16:19:57 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Snail Mail List To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 16:19:56 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Hi All, I've mailed details to everyone who's been interested so far. Quite a few people interested by the looks of it. Ok if there is someone who I've forgotten to mail the details to please email me! And I'd appreciate it if those who have received the details.txt in private mail could email me just their name, email address and physical mailing address for my database and the list :) As of yet I've not recieve anything from anyone. I hope those interested will come round to sending something! :) At the mo I've put all the 40 disks of Korg X3 samples and some X-Static 'n other disks into the database. Hope to hear from you all! -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Mon Mar 14 08:15:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 08:14 PST Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01034; Mon, 14 Mar 94 11:13:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 11:13:12 -0500 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9403141613.AA01034@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, guest1@ed.petech.ac.za Subject: Re: Snail Mail List Cc: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu Please email me your address, the details file, etc... Thanks. From mach1.wlu.ca!sols7520 Mon Mar 14 08:52:43 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.54.242.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 08:50 PST Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA12563; Mon, 14 Mar 94 11:48:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 11:42:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Subject: Features of new Samplevision? To: Ensoniq Samplers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What can I expect of this new Samplevision for Windows that will be out soon? Will it be just a copy of the Gem version? What new tool will it have? Will you be able to make waveforms, and drastically manipulate existing waveforms? Basically, I'm hoping it'll have some of the features that TurboSynth for the Mac and Atari has. Does anyone know? Speaking of creating waveforms, I was playing with "Cool" (the Shareware Windows sample editor) last night, and had vast amounts of fun creating waveforms. Is there any other such software out there -- I mean besides CSOUND? -Mark "Our music is sampled -- totally fake. It's done by machines 'cause they don't make mistakes." From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Mon Mar 14 08:52:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 08:50 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA03876 for eps@reed.edu; Mon, 14 Mar 94 11:51:39 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa15543; 14 Mar 94 10:50 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00612; Mon, 14 Mar 94 10:50:53 CST Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 10:50:53 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403141050.A00612@smtpgate.lante.com> To: guest1@ed.petech.ac.za Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: SampleVision and ASR Text item: Re: SampleVision and ASR Okay all, new word from Turtle Beach... Bottom Line: Don't look for SCSI support for the EPS, EPS 16, or ASR-10 in SampleVision before SV for Windows comes out. The problem is in the way that Ensoniq chose to deal with SCSI... It seems that there's no way for the receiver (SV in this case) to pause an incoming data dump. In actuality you would need enough memory in the PC to hold a full sized sample from the EPS/ASR, or 16meg on a good day. TB's position is that any further work on the current SV to deal with this, (implementing DPMI support), would only hold up the forthcoming SV for Windows. So... you're outta luck until then. When is "then"? Summerish is now the best guess... On better fronts... Those of you having problems with an ASR-10 on MIDI with Sample Vision should pick up the new driver. The easiest way is to download it from the TB Beachcomber BBS: (717) 765-0250 for 9600 and up (717) 765-5934 for under 9600 From wang.com!erussell Mon Mar 14 11:56:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 150.124.136.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 11:55 PST Received: from elf.wang.com by tuna.wang.com with SMTP id AA10662 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:55:11 -0500 Received: from russell.wang.com by elf.wang.com with SMTP id AA27894 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:55:04 -0500 Received: by russell.wang.com (5.59/TF-2) id AA17254; Mon, 14 Mar 94 14:54:55 EST From: Edward A. Russell Message-Id: <9403141954.AA17254@russell.wang.com> Subject: Midi code for bank select on TS-10/12 To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq Mailing list) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 14:54:54 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Does anyone know the midi code for performing a bank select on the TS-10/12? I am working on a utility to convert the GM program change instrument numbers in a .mid format file to TS-10/12 program change numbers. This would mean you could take a .mid file, convert it, and play in on the TS-10/12 and get the right instruments without any work. I understand the program change numbers and how they work in the select bank, but what midi code do I send to select a bank? Thanks in advance and sure I'll make it available if it works. p.s. If there is already a utility that does this on an IBM-PC, please let me know. I saw one advertised in the back of E.M. Magazine, but the guy wanted $59!!!!! I already downloaded free PD source which interprets midi files and just have to make some modifications. -- Edward A. Russell US Mail: M/S 014-690 Voice: 508-967-6327 Fax: 508-967-3205 WANG Laboratories internet: erussell@wang.com 1 Industrial Ave. compuserve: INTERNET:erussell@wang.com Lowell, MA. 01851 From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Mon Mar 14 13:49:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 13:48 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA19258 for eps@reed.edu; Mon, 14 Mar 94 16:48:45 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa15916; 14 Mar 94 15:47 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00627; Mon, 14 Mar 94 15:47:49 CST Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 15:47:49 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403141547.A00627@smtpgate.lante.com> To: sols7520@mach1.wlu.ca Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Features of new Samplevision? Text item: Re: Features of new Samplevision? >> What can I expect of this new Samplevision for Windows that will be out soon? Will it be just a copy of the Gem version? What new tool will it have? Will you be able to make waveforms, and drastically manipulate existing waveforms? Basically, I'm hoping it'll have some of the features that TurboSynth for the Mac and Atari has. Does anyone know? It hasn't hit Beta, (nor Alpha for that matter), stages yet so it's hard to even leak information about it. But... Look for Sample Vision for Windows to have the "Wave for Windows" engine as it's base, and a _much_ larger library of supported synths, (that is, in respect to SV/GEM). From rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu!rmvrshek Mon Mar 14 17:59:00 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 138.87.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 17:57 PST Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22987; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:58:31 -0600 From: rmvrshek@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Robert M. Vrshek) Message-Id: <9403150158.AA22987@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Password??????????????????? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:58:30 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 300 I tried to login anonymous with my email address as a password and it wouldn't let me in. What EXACTLY, SPECIFICALLY do I type to get into /pub/eps???????? Someone give me an answer that even the biggest idiot in the world can understand, because I am either that person, or I am missing something. From Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE!bqt Mon Mar 14 23:00:55 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.36.125.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Mar 94 22:59 PST Received: from Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE by sunic.sunet.se (8.6.4/2.03) id HAA02443; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 07:59:35 +0100 Received: by Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Sun-4/630, SunOS 4.1.2) with sendmail 5.61-bind 1.5+ida/ICU/DoCS id AA25369; Tue, 15 Mar 94 07:59:34 +0100 From: Johnny Billquist Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 7:59:34 MET Reply-To: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se To: rmvrshek@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Robert M. Vrshek) Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Password??????????????????? In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:58:30 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: >I tried to login anonymous with my email address as a password and it wouldn't >let me in. What EXACTLY, SPECIFICALLY do I type to get into /pub/eps???????? >Someone give me an answer that even the biggest idiot in the world can >understand, because I am either that person, or I am missing something. I hope you are aware of the fact that you are supposed to use ftp, and not login in the normal sense? Johnny From telerama.lm.com!raver909 Tue Mar 15 00:30:28 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 00:25 PST Received: from localhost (raver909@localhost) by telerama.lm.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA10931; Mon, 14 Mar 1994 22:34:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 22:34:03 +0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Features of new Samplevision? To: Mark cc: Ensoniq Samplers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Mar 1994, Mark wrote: > > > What can I expect of this new Samplevision for Windows that will > be out soon? Will it be just a copy of the Gem version? ^^^^ Are you sayng there is an Atari version of Samplevision??? Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| From NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL!bkirsch Tue Mar 15 05:17:37 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 26.2.0.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 05:17 PST Received: by NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (5.59/1.0 ) id AA20328; Tue, 15 Mar 94 08:15:03 EST Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 08:15:03 EST From: bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (B. Kirsch) Message-Id: <9403151315.AA20328@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Midi code for bank select on TS-10/12 Cc: bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL Edward A. Russell writes: >I am working on a utility to convert the GM program change instrument >numbers in a .mid format file to TS-10/12 program change numbers. >This would mean you could take a .mid file, convert it, and play in on >the TS-10/12 and get the right instruments without any work. I wrote a utility like this for the Mac. If anyone is interested, I will send it to you (or upload it). Barry Kirsch bkirsch@nadc.navy.mil From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Tue Mar 15 07:38:29 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 07:37 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA01996 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 94 10:38:34 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa16878; 15 Mar 94 9:37 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00637; Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:37:39 CST Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:37:39 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403150937.A00637@smtpgate.lante.com> To: MCA94ISB13@rcnvms.rcn.mass.edu Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: what da *@#$%* is going on?!? Text item: Re: what da *@#$%* is going on?!? >> I mean like, when I turn it on, the screen says nothing at all, or something like "hdufugdkujdfgkeir..." Life is bad with your EPS... Mine crashes like this, (always has), seemingly after being on for awhile, but it's not a heat problem. It also tends to send out random MIDI data on it's way out which is a real drag. I once thought it was caused by my SCSI card or 4x expander, but it does it with those pulled as well. I dunno what ta' tell ya', if yours just started acting up after a move, then it could be a flakey connection internally, you may wanna open it up and have a look. If you're running a 4x or SCSI card, then pull the card, clean the contacts off with 90% isoproyl alcohol and put it back in. If you go into the machine, reseat all the ROMs on the motherboard, they could be working themselves loose as well. I think mine's a memory problem, but I hate to take it in for service... From char.vnet.net!pauln Tue Mar 15 07:42:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 198.180.33.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 07:42 PST Received: by char.vnet.net id AA22932 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:40:47 -0500 From: Paul Noble Message-Id: <199403151540.AA22932@char.vnet.net> Subject: Re: Midi code for bank select on TS-10/12 (fwd) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:40:47 -0500 (EST) Cc: erussell@wang.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 472 > Edward A. Russell writes: > > >I am working on a utility to convert the GM program change instrument > >numbers in a .mid format file to TS-10/12 program change numbers. > >This would mean you could take a .mid file, convert it, and play in on > >the TS-10/12 and get the right instruments without any work. > I would be very interseted in this utility once its complete. I hope you plan to upload it to reed. Thanks, Paul Noble pauln@vnet.net From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Tue Mar 15 08:00:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 08:00 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA04998 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 94 11:00:48 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa16907; 15 Mar 94 9:59 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00640; Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:59:58 CST Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:59:58 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403150959.A00640@smtpgate.lante.com> To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Cc: sols7520@mach1.wlu.ca, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Features of new Samplevision? Text item: Re: Features of new Samplevision? >> Are you sayng there is an Atari version of Samplevision??? "GEM" in this case refers to a Windows (not Win3.1, more like Win/386), kinda lookalike/workalike developers tool that was popular a while ago. The original SV was written to that interface. From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Tue Mar 15 08:22:58 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 08:22 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19465; Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:25:14 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Re Snail Mail List and what it is To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:25:14 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Hi All, The snail mail list is what I'd call the archive for those people who find encoding disks a hassle and those with slow modems and the like. Also yes, it is not to put load on the archive. I have a half gig drive which i am filling with samples. I'm also making complete sound lists from a sound-database which go out to everyone who is a part of the list. I for one find it easiest just to copy a disk and pop it in the post. This service I hope will also eventually start getting people who DONT have ftp and mail access here so there will be even MORE samples around and we'll get more people involved. Also, most of the sounds (all apart from the archive's soundpacks) are for use with the EPS16+ and upwards. That means most of the stuff is full 16-bit. BUT ofcourse both DD and HD disk formats are accepted. The procedure is to mail some sounds you have done to me for inclusion in the list and recieve whatever you want in return. I believe this will keep the quality high and I DO have the storage space for all the sounds :) If there's no complaints I will also post a full or partial list to the mailing list here and then upload sounds to the archive for whoever wants em. This keeps load off the archive too. Lastly I know this isn't 'appropriate' here :) but anyone contributing is left to their discretion as to if they want to contribute their own stuff, someone elses or even commercial sounds. I'm not going to go crying to any manufacturer - we've all invested a lot in sounds anyway. (flames to /dev/null) Well that's it! There's already about 15 people or so on the list. I'm going to leave it at that for the moment. So if you want to join in and contribute send me some private mail! Cheers Kon -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Tue Mar 15 08:30:52 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 08:30 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19536; Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:33:11 +0200 From: Kon Wilms Subject: SAMPLEVISION NEW DRIVERS ARE DUDS! To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:33:11 SAST Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I downloaded the new drivers for samplevision... pop em in and boot up my ASR-10... send data... wait.. DING! You're out! Yeah, they dont work! I called like massive LD and all that for a DUD. If anyone has managed to get SampleVision to work with an ASR-10 I'd love to know how. (Would you like cash or a cheque?) Thanks for all the help btw but nothing has worked. I keep getting 'timeout getting wave/layer parameters'. I have my midi looped and it IS working. The MIDI light on the ASR starts flashing and then I get the error message. After that when I try send again I get fun messages like 'disk access in progress' and have to reboot everything. Later -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From sics.se!alf Tue Mar 15 09:16:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.16.123.90 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 09:15 PST Received: from mut.sics.se by sics.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/SICS-1.4) with SMTP id AA15834; Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:14:27 +0100 Message-Id: <9403151714.AA15834@sics.se> To: Paul Noble Cc: eps@reed.edu, erussell@wang.com, alf@sics.se Subject: Re: Midi code for bank select on TS-10/12 (fwd) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:40:47 EST." <199403151540.AA22932@char.vnet.net> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 18:14:24 +0100 From: (Alf) Thomas Sjoeland >> Edward A. Russell writes: >> >> >I am working on a utility to convert the GM program change instrument >> >numbers in a .mid format file to TS-10/12 program change numbers. >> >This would mean you could take a .mid file, convert it, and play in on >> >the TS-10/12 and get the right instruments without any work. >> > >I would be very interseted in this utility once its complete. I hope you >plan to upload it to reed. > >Thanks, > >Paul Noble >pauln@vnet.net Me too, I thought it might be very nice to have a somewhat more general tool that can map general midi program change messages to other commands to control the setting up of a program on a given synth (EPS sampler bank selection with delays between program change, hint, hint). The remapping whould be defined with a format in a text file. It could also remap general midi drum data to some favourite drum pad that you might have on your sampler and perhaps do things like remap controllers. It should not be very much more difficult once you have the general form of the program in order. From CompuServe.COM!72203.2303 Tue Mar 15 12:49:12 1994 Return-Path: <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> Received: from 198.4.7.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 12:47 PST Received: from localhost by arl-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.4/5.930129sam) id PAA08741; Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:47:48 -0500 Date: 15 Mar 94 15:40:44 EST From: Garth Hjelte <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> To: INTERNET Mailing List Subject: Ensoniq General MIDI Message-ID: <940315204043_72203.2303_GHB28-2@CompuServe.COM> To all: Ensoniq has come out with General MIDI for the TS series. This is quote from the Transoniq Hacker - "A new upgrade (standard on all new TSs) now makes them fully GM compatible for proper playback of sequences generated by computers and other GM devices. OS 2.5 upgrade provides 16-channel multi-timbral MIDI reception with all 128 GM sounds, including all 8 GM and GS drum kits, permantly stored in ROM. The TSs GM mode automatically sets up the instrument for 16-part reception as defined in the GM spec. In this mode, all other functions of the TS are disabled, making it an easy-to-use sound source for receiving GM data. OS 2.5 ROM chips are available to current TS owners at E dealers for $99.95. price includes installation." Thought this was pertinent to the discussion. Also, Kon wrote: Received: from 150.124.136.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 13:23 PST Received: from elf.wang.com by tuna.wang.com with SMTP id AA09717 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:23:32 -0500 Received: from russell.wang.com by elf.wang.com with SMTP id AA07935 (5.67a/IDA-1.5); Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:23:12 -0500 Received: by russell.wang.com (5.59/TF-2) id AA17618; Tue, 15 Mar 94 16:23:11 EST From: Edward A. Russell Message-Id: <9403152123.AA17618@russell.wang.com> Subject: Re: Midi code for bank select on TS-10/12 (fwd) To: alf@sics.se Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 16:23:09 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq Mailing list) In-Reply-To: <9403151714.AA15834@sics.se>; from "alf@sics.se" at Mar 15, 94 6:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > >> Edward A. Russell writes: > >> > >> >I am working on a utility to convert the GM program change instrument > >> >numbers in a .mid format file to TS-10/12 program change numbers. > >> >This would mean you could take a .mid file, convert it, and play in on > >> >the TS-10/12 and get the right instruments without any work. > >> > > > >I would be very interseted in this utility once its complete. I hope you > >plan to upload it to reed. > > Me too, > > I thought it might be very nice to have a somewhat more general tool > that can map general midi program change messages to other commands > to control the setting up of a program on a given synth (EPS sampler > bank selection with delays between program change, hint, hint). > The remapping whould be defined with a format in a text file. It could > also remap general midi drum data to some favourite drum pad that you > might have on your sampler and perhaps do things like remap controllers. > It should not be very much more difficult once you have the general form > of the program in order. Geez!!!! You want everything. Well I started in the right direction. What I have done so far is to make a mapping of program change number to new bank set and program change number and that mapping is in a text file. I do have it hardcoded to insert the bank set select message before each program change. You want one step further. In the text file mapping for every program change: do this, this, and this. The problem is that "this" may be multiple insert, delete, or modify. And after that, you're going to want to do it for events other than program changes. I know your type :) Other than the fact that maybe I could make some money at this, I'm not motivated enough. So here's what you do: get the file pub/MIDI/PROGRAMS/MSDOS/mf2t.zip from ftp.cs.ruu.nl (if you want, the source is in pub/MIDI/PROGRAMS/mf2t.zip). It is code written/modified by Piet van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University. The zip contains mf2t.exe which converts a midi file to a text file. You can then run awk, sed, or your own c program on the text file doing what you want to it. The zip also contains, you guessed it, t2mf.exe which converts the text file back to midi format. I could have used a sed script to get my bank selects and program changes in, but I decided to modify the c source as that turned out to be more convienent for reading from a mapping file. I'll let folks know when it works. If anyone does want to bankroll me to make a generic midi file mapper, I'll listen. -- Edward A. Russell US Mail: M/S 014-690 Voice: 508-967-6327 Fax: 508-967-3205 WANG Laboratories internet: erussell@wang.com 1 Industrial Ave. compuserve: INTERNET:erussell@wang.com Lowell, MA. 01851 From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Tue Mar 15 13:50:52 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.107.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 13:49 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu9.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA26849 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 94 16:50:36 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa17330; 15 Mar 94 15:47 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00651; Tue, 15 Mar 94 15:48:05 CST Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 15:48:05 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403151548.A00651@smtpgate.lante.com> To: guest1@ed.petech.ac.za Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: SAMPLEVISION NEW DRIVERS ARE DUDS! Text item: Re: SAMPLEVISION NEW DRIVERS ARE DUDS! >> I downloaded the new drivers for samplevision... Hmmm... Bummer. I know it fixed all the problems for a couple of guys locally here... If you gimme your name, (if other than Kon Wilms), and a daytime phone. I'll call TB and let'em know that it looks like there's still trouble in the world. From mach1.wlu.ca!sols7520 Tue Mar 15 14:49:29 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.54.242.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Mar 94 14:48 PST Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA26178; Tue, 15 Mar 94 17:45:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 17:37:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Subject: NEW SAMPLEVISION DRIVERS BY INTERNET? To: Ensoniq Samplers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If it's okay legal-wise, can someone upload the new Samplevision drivers to the EPS FTP site? I wouldn't mind seeing if they work (now that I got Samplevision working under OS/2.) Speaking of OS/2, the worlds greatest ASR/PC utility (EPSDISK) doesn't work under OS/2. I have to boot up a dos disk for it to work. I have the source, and tried compiling it under OS/2, but my compiler (Borland C++ for OS/2) doesn't have some of the calls EPSDISK requires -- and my programming isn't exactly the greatest anyway. It seems that it doesn't know how to handle disk I/O properly, and it gives errors when trying to write or format a disk. Anyway, I can give more info if anyone really cares about this problem. -Mark "Our music is sampled -- totally fake. It's done by machines 'cause they don't make mistakes." From ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com!TKUITTINEN Wed Mar 16 01:27:59 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 131.228.128.211 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 16 Mar 94 01:26 PST Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:26:36 +0300 (EET) From: "Timo Kuittinen p. +358 0 5104 4624" To: eps@reed.edu CC: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com Message-Id: <940316112636.20a0039d@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: Re: SampleVision drivers/duds? maybe not? >> Subj: SAMPLEVISION NEW DRIVERS ARE DUDS! >> From: Kon Wilms >> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 94 18:33:11 SAST >> I downloaded the new drivers for samplevision... >> pop em in and boot up my ASR-10... >> send data... >> wait.. >> DING! You're out! >> Thanks for all the help btw but nothing has worked. I keep getting >> 'timeout getting wave/layer parameters'. Hi! === Just a thought, cause the above looks kinda familiar. At least with my EPS-16+, if I start with an "empty" sampler and try to send data to it I get the same kind of error. The (only?) solution is to perform the following sequence of operations: 1) create a new instrument 2) create a new layer 3) create a new wavesample 4) set the wavesample number to 1 in the edit WS 5) NOW send the data to the sampler Have you tried receiving a sample with the new driver? regards Timo, EPG ========= From NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL!bkirsch Wed Mar 16 07:03:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 26.2.0.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 16 Mar 94 07:02 PST Received: by NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (5.59/1.0 ) id AA25889; Wed, 16 Mar 94 09:59:35 EST Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 09:59:35 EST From: bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (B. Kirsch) Message-Id: <9403161459.AA25889@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SMF Utility for the Mac Cc: bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL I have written a Mac utility that converts Standard MIDI File program and drum notes to your syths configuration. It is geared to convert from General MIDI spec but can convert any program or drum map. The program is not specific to the TS-10/12. If you use the program, I would appreciate feedback. It is a very useful little utility, so please distribute it. I uploaded it to eps/incoming and called it SMFUtil1.0b8.Hqx The following is an excerpt from the readme file. This application includes two utilities for Standard MIDI Files. Generic SMF's either downloaded or transfered from another platform do not have the required 'Midi' type attached to the file. This is necessary for Mac sequencer applications to recognize them. This program allows the user to select the sequencer on which the SMF is to be played, and this program will attach the reuired 'type' and 'creator' to the SMF, making the files icon change too. The second utility remaps the SMF's program's and drum notes from General MIDI spec to the user's synthesizer's configuration. Template maps are provided. These are text files and easily edited. The following are template maps that SMF Utility reads -------------Cut Here------------- DRUM CHANNEL (1-16): 10 DRUM PROGRAM NUMBER (One-based): 1 DRUM MAP (C3=60): C-2 to B-1: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 C-1 to B0: 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 C0 to B1: 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 C1 to B2: 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 C2 to B3: 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 C3 to B4: 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 C4 to B5: 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 C5 to B6: 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 C6 to B7: 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 C7 to B8: 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 C8 to A9: 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 -------------Cut Here------------- [If you replace the word One with zero or Zero, SMF Util will interpret program numbers as zero based] -------------Cut Here------------- MIDI CHANNEL FLAGS (1 if pgm change desired, 0 if pgm change not desired) 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 CHANNEL 1 MAP for Proteus 1, 8 programs per instrument family: One-based program numbers Piano: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 PitchPerc: 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Organ: 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Guitar: 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 Bass: 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 Orchestra: 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 Ensemble: 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 Brass: 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 Reed: 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 Pipe: 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 SynthLead: 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 SynthPad: 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 SynthFX: 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 Ethnic: 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 Percussive: 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 SoundFX: 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 -------------Cut Here------------- If you tell me how banks are selected on the TS10/12 I will figure out a way to modify the maps to accept bank selection. (I don't have a TS10/12 but I'll add the feature for anyone who wants it.) Have Fun, -Barry Kirsch bkirsch@nadc.navy.mil From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Wed Mar 16 10:47:20 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 16 Mar 94 10:46 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <26446-0@pat.uio.no>; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:15:35 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:15:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 20:15:33 +0100 Message-Id: <9403161915.AAfidibus26875@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje Finstad) X-Sender: tgf@fidibus.uio.no Subject: Bank Select Standard, TS10/12 std? I have read that the suggested standard way of select sound banks on a synth by a Midi command is by a Control Number 0 message. It should be followed by a program change command. Perhaps the TS10/12 follow that standard. Please tell if it don't. ( It was asked how to select banks by midi command on ts10/12 ) From smtpgate.lante.com!pulverm Wed Mar 16 17:33:05 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 38.145.155.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 16 Mar 94 17:32 PST Received: from [199.29.72.126] by uu6.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA21352 for eps@reed.edu; Wed, 16 Mar 94 20:33:10 -0500 Received: from smtpgate by inetgate.lante.com id aa00896; 16 Mar 94 19:31 CST Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgate.lante.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A00679; Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:32:12 CST Date: Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:32:12 CST From: Mark Pulver Message-Id: <9403161932.A00679@smtpgate.lante.com> To: guest1@ed.petech.ac.za Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: SAMPLEVISION NEW DRIVERS ARE DUDS! Text item: Re: SAMPLEVISION NEW DRIVERS ARE DUDS! >> Yeah, they dont work! I called like massive LD and all that for a DUD. I hadn't heard back from you in my asking for a voice phone number, so I figured I'd better let you know that I'm gonna be gone for a week or so and may not be able to get to my mail. The offer still stands, (and this goes for everyone having problems), just lemme know, as concisely as possible, what you see as a problem, and how someone from TB can get to you during the day. I'll forward that info straight to the developers. They really do care and they really wanna get this working for everyone. Hang in there folks... From wariat.org!eddie Wed Mar 16 19:41:39 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.62 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:41 PST Received: from 192.147.147.1 by scratchy.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.23) id ; Wed, 16 Mar 94 19:41 PST Received: by wariat.org (/\==/\ Sma