From tuns.ca!stanfiph Mon Jan 31 14:37:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 134.190.5.109 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Jan 94 14:35 PST Message-Id: Received: by toot.ccs.tuns.ca (1.37.109.6/15.6) id AA21514; Mon, 31 Jan 94 18:31:21 -0400 From: Greg Tiller Subject: ASR To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 18:31:21 AST Full-Name: Greg Tiller Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I have a suggestion, and was wondering if anyone would like to have this as well.. how about a seperate directory for ASR10 sampled sounds.. personally I find the samples on eps.reed to all be of very poor quality, it's great that people are putting stuff there, but the sounds are for the old eps and sound like shit (forgive my forwardness) how about a seperate ASR10/TS10/TS12 Directory! Someone tell me what you think! From greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM!bobs Mon Jan 31 15:30:05 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.9.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Jan 94 15:28 PST Received: from Central.Sun.COM (central.Central.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22042; Mon, 31 Jan 94 15:28:34 PST Received: from greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM (greatlakesbb.Central.Sun.COM) by Central.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16012; Mon, 31 Jan 94 17:28:32 CST Received: from da.Central.Sun.COM by greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1-900117) id AA02205; Mon, 31 Jan 94 18:21:51 EST Received: by da.Central.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02797; Mon, 31 Jan 1994 18:22:38 +0500 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 18:22:38 +0500 From: bobs@greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM (Bob Sloboda Sun SE - Michigan) Message-Id: <9401312322.AA02797@da.Central.Sun.COM> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Please remove me from this alias X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 42 Please remove me from this alias. Thanks From mach1.wlu.ca!sols7520 Mon Jan 31 15:57:26 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.54.242.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Jan 94 15:55 PST Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA18397; Mon, 31 Jan 94 18:53:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 18:49:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Subject: Re: ASR To: Greg Tiller Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 31 Jan 1994, Greg Tiller wrote: > I have a suggestion, and was wondering if anyone would like to have this as well.. > how about a seperate directory for ASR10 sampled sounds.. personally I find the samples > on eps.reed to all be of very poor quality, it's great that people are putting stuff there, > but the sounds are for the old eps and sound like shit (forgive my forwardness) > how about a seperate ASR10/TS10/TS12 Directory! Someone tell me what you think! I agree. I like a lot of the EPS samples, but would like to have the option of knowing which are which before I download. I don't know about the features of EPS samples, but ASR samples seem to be much more "synth-like". Some of the sounds, such as "Monolith" and "Spacey String" (I forget what file they were named under) don't sound like samples at all -- more like synth patches. Then again, these may be well done EPS samples. I don't know EPS. -Mark "Our music is sampled -- totally fake. It's done by machines 'cause they don't make mistakes." From cs.uwa.edu.au!leigh Mon Jan 31 20:17:26 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.204.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Jan 94 20:15 PST Received: from localhost (leigh@localhost) by cuscus.cs.uwa.oz.au (8.5/8.5) id MAA00756; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 12:14:55 +0800 From: Leigh SMITH Message-Id: <199402010414.MAA00756@cuscus.cs.uwa.oz.au> Subject: Maartists EPS-16+ SCSI Intf Terminated? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:14:54 WST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL9] Hi EPS People, After rebuilding my Seagate ST-157N and getting it to talk to Macs and PCs, My EPS-16+ with a Maartists SCSI interface won't respond to it or other SCSI drives. Methinks 'tis lack of termination at the EPS-16+ end as things are nicely terminated at the drive end and the drive talks ok to a Mac using the cable (unless there is a big discrepency between Mac and EPS compatible SCSI cables). Does anyone know if the Maartists SCSI interface is terminated or needs termination on its end of the cable itself? Any Maartists SCSI equipped persons replies most welcome! Thanks -- Leigh Smith, Dept of Computer Science: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au, +61-9-380-1947 University of Western Australia Fax: +61-9-380-1126 Home NeXTMail: leigh@psychokiller.dialix.oz.au, +61-9-450-2014 *---=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=---* From dtek.chalmers.se!d2ser Tue Feb 1 04:04:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.16.30.28 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 04:03 PST Received: from localhost (d2ser@localhost) by hacke18.dtek.chalmers.se (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA27495 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:03:20 +0100 From: Svante Eriksson Message-Id: <199402011203.NAA27495@hacke18.dtek.chalmers.se> Subject: TS-10 SCSI To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:03:19 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 409 Hi! Is there anyone out there who has some experience with the SCSI interface for the TS-10? An unconfirmed rumor says that it can only be used for reading - any substance to that? Does the SCSI-interface board have support for other digital io, like the ASR-10? I'd also like to know what HDs (brands, models) are known to work with Ensoniq's SCSI-implementation. All replies welcome! /ser From greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM!bobs Tue Feb 1 04:30:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.9.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 04:29 PST Received: from Central.Sun.COM (central.Central.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26325; Tue, 1 Feb 94 04:29:34 PST Received: from greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM (greatlakesbb.Central.Sun.COM) by Central.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04437; Tue, 1 Feb 94 06:29:32 CST Received: from da.Central.Sun.COM by greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1-900117) id AA02365; Tue, 1 Feb 94 07:22:48 EST Received: by da.Central.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03466; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 07:23:38 +0500 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 07:23:38 +0500 From: bobs@greatlakes.Central.Sun.COM (Bob Sloboda Sun SE - Michigan) Message-Id: <9402011223.AA03466@da.Central.Sun.COM> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Please remove me from this alias X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 33 Please remove me from this alias From coral.bucknell.edu!dbell Tue Feb 1 10:09:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 134.82.7.253 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 10:08 PST Received: by coral.bucknell.edu (5.65/IDA-1.2.8) id AA03005; Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:08:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:08:10 -0500 From: Bell David W Message-Id: <9402011808.AA03005@coral.bucknell.edu> To: d2ser@dtek.chalmers.se, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: TS-10 SCSI TS-10 SCSI questions.... Read only? True. Other digital IO, like the ASR-10? No. Known working HDs? I dunno. I will say this: When I bought my TS-12 I asked Ensoniq Tech Help if I could use it with the internal CD-ROM of my Macintosh Centris 650. They told me that the SCSI ID number of the TS SCSI connection is set at 3 and cannot be changed, and that since my CD-ROM drive was set at 3 as well I couldn't use it. That turned out not to be true, since my Apple rep told me it was no problem to switch a jumper on my CD-ROM to change its SCSI ID number. Just my $0.02. -- Dave Bell -- dbell@coral.bucknell.edu "There can be only one." -Connor MacLeod From apanix.apana.org.au!geoff Tue Feb 1 12:44:00 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.189.54.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:42 PST Received: by yarrina.connect.com.au with UUCP id AA23446 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for reed.edu!eps); Wed, 2 Feb 1994 06:42:48 +1100 Received: from apanix.apana.org.au (olivaw.apanix.apana.org.au) by cleese.apana.org.au with SMTP id AA04921 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 2 Feb 1994 00:54:25 +1030 Received: by apanix.apana.org.au id AA13381 (5.65b+/IDA-1.4.3 for eps@reed.edu); Wed, 2 Feb 94 00:53:24 +1030 From: Geoff Peters Message-Id: <9402011423.AA13381@apanix.apana.org.au> Subject: SCSI & the ASR To: eps@reed.edu (mailing list : eps) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 00:53:21 -17634834 (DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1731 > It took a while for my EPS16+ to get it's SCSI bugs worked out, but > it does work nicely now. How many ASR-10 users on the list have had > trouble getting their SCSI working? I've always felt that any > respectable sampler has got to do SCSI well, and it's always bugged > me that the implementation on Ensoniq gear seems like such an > afterthought. Does the ASR-10 also require the flimsy SCSI wart > attachment (like the EPS16+) instead of having the port solidly > embedded in the chassis? I wouldn't know for sure - I think it's integral to the case. One distressing bit of news I've heard today regarding the ASR-OS 2.0 and the direct-to-disk function is that, according to Ensoniq, the R88C 88 Mb removable Syquest drive *cannot* be used with the Hard Drive Recording option, as it's apparently too slow. The 44 Mb versions and the newer 105 Mb 3.5" Syquests work fine, so we've been told. ObAnnoyEnsoniq: our resident Ensoniq addict, Rob, is a died-in-the-wool techno head, and uses his TS-32 and ASR-10 (both max'ed out as much as possible) to produce some of the best rave/techno/acid/hard-core I've had the fortune of hearing. Being an analog junkie from way back, he's nearly finished production of an Analog Synth CD-ROM in ASR format (much to the jazz-loving Ensoniq engineers), and is currently disassembling the OS so he can add the much-desired MIDI Sample Dump facility! Geoffrey -- Geoffrey Peters | All e-mail to: | "Wha'd he say, Harry, wha'd he 4/10 Grenfell St. | geoff@apanix.apana.org.au | say?" "He say, , sah!" From mach1.wlu.ca!sols7520 Tue Feb 1 12:44:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.54.242.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Feb 94 12:41 PST Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA11521; Tue, 1 Feb 94 15:38:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:21:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Subject: MACROS on the ASR-10? To: Ensoniq Samplers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I got my ASR, it didn't include the manual, and another one was ordered for me. I still haven't got it yet, though I figured out almost everything. Some things I'm still having problems with. These are with "Macro" and "Preset" functions. I have a sample CD full of drum machine sounds. I would like to put all of these on disk for easier access (of course, I would also upload them to Reed :-).) It would make things much easier for me if I could play the CD and not have to continually pause it while I set up the next sample. Ideally, I would like to have the CD playing continuously, and only pressing two or three keys on the sampler in between sounds on the CD. How can I make a "macro" to do this? What the heck is a "preset"? How can I access the "Select Preset", "Create Preset", and "Directory" buttons? Finally, how can you erase disk files? j Otherwise, I've had no problems with the other commands. I found it remarkably easy to use, considering I had no manual, and no experience with Ensoniq gear. -Mark (In case some of you are interested (and to motivate some answers on "macro's"), here are some of the drum machines I have on CD: XR-10, R-8 (+ tonnes of cards), RY-30, DR-550, HR-16, DDD-1, Drumtraks, Drumulator, RX-5, TR-505, TR-606, TR-707, TR-808, TR-909, Simmons, CR-78, SPD-8, XD-5, Linn Drum, Rhythum 55, RX-11, and much, much, much more. I will do requests if you furnish me with the information I need :-).) "Our music is sampled -- totally fake. It's done by machines 'cause they don't make mistakes." From vm.utcc.utoronto.ca!UREGINA1.BITNET!KEELERJA Sun Feb 6 19:10:56 1994 Return-Path: <@vm.utcc.utoronto.ca:KEELERJA@UREGINA1.BITNET> Received: from 128.100.100.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 6 Feb 94 19:08 PST Message-Id: Received: from MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA by vm.utcc.utoronto.ca (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3115; Sun, 06 Feb 94 22:10:36 EST Received: by UREGINA1 (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) id 8383; Sun, 06 Feb 94 21:11:52 CST Date: Sun, 06 Feb 94 21:07:48 CST From: Jason Keeler Subject: Which utilities for ASR10? To: EPS@REED.EDU Hi; I was just browsing around at the EPS ftp site and noticed several utilities which appear to be EPS oriented. Given that SampleVision works with my ASR10 using an EPS driver I will assume most utilities on the FTP site will also work. If I am wrong please let me know as downloading at a pitiful 2400 baud rate can be painful if you grab an unneeded file!! Which utilities should I get? BTW, I LOVE this new ASR10!!! Especially with the SCSI From math.tau.ac.il!flashner Mon Feb 7 01:11:03 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 132.67.64.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 01:09 PST Return-Path: Received: from libra.math.tau.ac.il by math.tau.ac.il (5.67/math.tau-930921) id AA24468; Mon, 7 Feb 94 11:10:05 +0200 Comments: The BITNET node taurus.bitnet will cease to exist as of March 1994. If you are still using the address user@taurus.bitnet please convert it to user@math.tau.ac.il Received: by libra.math.tau.ac.il (5.67/math.sub-st921020) id AA24178; Mon, 7 Feb 94 11:10:03 +0200 From: flashner@math.tau.ac.il Message-Id: <9402070910.AA24178@libra.math.tau.ac.il> Subject: The New AS series lib for the ASR To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 11:10:02 +0200 (GMT+0200) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 557 Hi, I just got the new library of sounds ( AS) for the ASR. Meanwhile it has 5 volumes with 5 HD diskettes in each. The sounds are said to be digitally recorded. The sounds are nice, but not more (IMHO). They didn't save on memory this time, but to my opinion saved on programming. I'm quite curious to hear what you there think. Bye, Amit. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Amit Flashner. | | | | Pure Quality. Nothing More. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bristol.com!arisb Mon Feb 7 06:20:28 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.246.192.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 06:19 PST Received: from otto.bristol.com by bristol.com (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA03558; Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:20:16 EST Message-Id: <9402071420.AA03558@bristol.com> Received: by otto.bristol.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14326; Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:23:43 -0500 From: Aris Antanas Buinevicius Subject: EPS16+ for sale To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 9:23:41 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] content-length: 387 Ok; last time here! For sale: EPS16+ base system including: - 15 original disks - 15 extra disks - all WaveBoy software - cover For $950 (plus split shipping)... Actually, if I don't get any offers at this price, I'm probably just going to hang on to it, since I really like the keyboard action anyways! If you're interested, give a holler: arisb@bristol.com Thanks! Aris From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Mon Feb 7 09:34:34 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 09:34 PST Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.3-3 #5323) id <01H8LRGTSASG00048Z@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:33:27 EST Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H8LRHNJBBK000ETF@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:33:46 EST Date: Mon, 07 Feb 1994 12:33:46 -0500 (EST) From: Lugwrench! Subject: ASR-10 to EPS-16+ disk compatibility (and vice versa) To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H8LRHNJKYQ000ETF@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: eps X-VMS-Cc: potter MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Howdy. A friend of mine has an ASR with a boatload of nifty sounds, and I was wondering if my EPS-16+ can read ASR disks (and vice versa). I'd appreciate any info on this. |||||| LUGWRENCH! C @\/@ | _> /~~~ Internet: IN%"Potter%TechDB@Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.Ca" From sicdes.dnet.etn.com!davis Mon Feb 7 10:45:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 151.110.3.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 10:41 PST Received: by etn.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06487; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:39:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:38:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9402071839.AA06487@etn.com> From: davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com To: eps@etn.com Subject: PS Systems I just tried to call PS Systems and found that both phone numbers (800-446-8404 and 619-578-1119) have been disconnected!?!?!? Have they gone out of business?!?!? So much for support! Tim Davis From satalink.com!legion Mon Feb 7 10:49:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.204.28.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 10:48 PST Received: from satalink.UUCP by ubos.voicenet.com with UUCP id AA21471 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:33:26 -0500 Received: by satalink (PCB-UUCP 1.1c) id 5143D7; Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:29:40 -0640 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Help I'm FTP impaired! From: legion@satalink.com (Legion) Message-Id: <1.57472.14.0C5143D7@satalink.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 11:36:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 Well the title says it all. I've been an EPS user for four years or so and just got the ASR. I have about 100+ disks of sounds of everything (synths, kits, fx, loops, etc etc) and right now I'm probably using only a fraction of the ASR's offerings. I have a 486 PC but don't do anything with it for music. yet. I keep reading messages about this EPS utility or that ASR sample that are available via FTP from the "site". I barely have email so I can't FTP and there are probably a few like me around. Is there anyway for someone to post a catalog or listing of the file directories and what they contain. Personally, I have a lot of sounds and sequences that I'd be willing to offer for someone's help in getting useful stuff from the site. And there are probably others like me that could really boost the files with stuff. Sooo, if anyone can post a file list and/or perhaps wants to write me (or the list) about being a intermediary for the FTP impaired that would be great. Thanks!! David Legion@satalink.com From bristol.com!arisb Mon Feb 7 11:24:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.246.192.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 11:23 PST Received: from otto.bristol.com by bristol.com (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA07988; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:24:54 EST Message-Id: <9402071924.AA07988@bristol.com> Received: by otto.bristol.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19028; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:28:27 -0500 From: Aris Antanas Buinevicius Subject: Sold... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:28:26 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] content-length: 134 My EPS16+ has been sold... Thanks to all responders! Thanks for everyone's help and great advice over the last year or so! Aris From ualr.edu!JABUSSEY Mon Feb 7 13:09:25 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 13:07 PST Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4503) id <01H8LWHMVWO00021QM@UALR.EDU>; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:56:31 CDT Date: Mon, 07 Feb 1994 14:56:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc. 1911" Subject: FORSALE: EPS Classic Loaded To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <940207145629.60200834@ualr.edu> X-Envelope-to: eps@reed.edu Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I would like to sell my EPS classic. Here are the specs: EPS Classic 4x Memory Expansion OEX-8 Output Expander FootSwitch Original Instrument Disks I am asking $875 or best offer. Thanks, Jacque Bussey (501) 565-6132 From microsoft.com!stanh Mon Feb 7 14:35:52 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 131.107.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:32 PST Received: by netmail.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA28468; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:30:06 -0800 Message-Id: <9402072230.AA28468@netmail.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail using fxenixd 1.0 Mon, 07 Feb 94 14:30:06 PST X-Msmail-Message-Id: 6273B41E X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 6273B41E From: Stan Hoffman To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:12:33 PST Subject: gunzip I am unable to run gunzip on my unix server because that's the way our system is set up. If I want to decompress anything, I have to do it on my pc. Is there a version of gunzip that runs on the pc that someone can post? Thanks, Stan Hoffman stanh@microsoft.com From csugrad.cs.vt.edu!cfowler Mon Feb 7 14:42:43 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.173.41.74 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 14:40 PST Received: from localhost (cfowler@localhost) by csugrad.cs.vt.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA01969 for eps@reed.edu; Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:40:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:40:44 -0500 From: Christian Fowler Message-Id: <199402072240.RAA01969@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: DEAD EPS 16+ turbo Hi I have an EPS 16+ turbo. It was chugging along fine until I came back toschool. It sounds as though my D/A converter has died. It makes some increibly interesting crackling sounds, but there comes a time when a man wants more than just noise. I tried different software, though I only have OS v1.0. I see the new OS is here. How can I get it from my mac to my eps? Anybody ever had such problems????? Christian From ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com!TKUITTINEN Mon Feb 7 20:58:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 131.228.128.211 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 20:58 PST Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 6:58:50 +0300 (EET) From: "Timo Kuittinen p. +358 0 5104 4624" To: INET"eps@reed.edu" CC: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com Message-Id: <940208065850.24810201@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: SampleVision + EPS16 + SCSI = ??? Hello! ====== I wonder if anyone here could help me... I believe that I read it would be possible to use SCSI to transfer sample data between SampleVision and the EPS. I've gone through the manual, the program and old mails that I've kept on SV but to no avail. Have I been daydreaming (again) or is it possible to use SCSI with SV? I have version 2.0 (with eps/eps16 driver 2.02) and EPS-16+ rack. I'm considering on going SCSI but before I stop eating to finance the setup, I'd like to know if it's worth getting. So, if I get the SCSI interface for my EPS-16+ and PC, do I need something more? I driver from Turtle Beach, maybe? Does one exist for this combo? And would it still be possible to obtain one even after TB has discontinued SV? And if not, does one of you have this driver so I could buy/copy it? I seem to remember someone mentioning something called SMDI in conjunction with Peavey DPM-SP/SampleVision. Would this do it? What is this SMDI? Some universal SCSI driver for SV? Or just for the DPM-SP? Please, help, any info is wellcome. regards from very cold Finland Timo ==== From ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com!TKUITTINEN Mon Feb 7 22:00:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 131.228.128.211 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 21:59 PST Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 7:59:50 +0300 (EET) From: "Timo Kuittinen p. +358 0 5104 4624" To: eps@reed.edu CC: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com Message-Id: <940208075950.24810201@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: 2nd try: SampleVision + EPS16 + SCSI = ??? +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Sorry, if this is a duplicate posting, but I got the first one back ! ! as RETURNED MAIL and decided to try another route. ! +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ Hello! ====== I wonder if anyone here could help me... I believe that I read it would be possible to use SCSI to transfer sample data between SampleVision and the EPS. I've gone through the manual, the program and old mails that I've kept on SV but to no avail. Have I been daydreaming (again) or is it possible to use SCSI with SV? I have version 2.0 (with eps/eps16 driver 2.02) and EPS-16+ rack. I'm considering on going SCSI but before I stop eating to finance the setup, I'd like to know if it's worth getting. So, if I get the SCSI interface for my EPS-16+ and PC, do I need something more? I driver from Turtle Beach, maybe? Does one exist for this combo? And would it still be possible to obtain one even after TB has discontinued SV? And if not, does one of you have this driver so I could buy/copy it? I seem to remember someone mentioning something called SMDI in conjunction with Peavey DPM-SP/SampleVision. Would this do it? What is this SMDI? Some universal SCSI driver for SV? Or just for the DPM-SP? Please, help, any info is wellcome. regards from very cold Finland Timo ==== From aol.com!jbytes Mon Feb 7 22:08:33 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.203.190.181 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 22:08 PST Received: by mailgate.prod.aol.net (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08404; Tue, 8 Feb 94 00:25:46 -0500 From: jbytes@aol.com X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: "jbytes" Message-Id: <9402080022.tn252116@aol.com> To: eps@REED.edu Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 00:22:35 EST Subject: Original EPS for Sale My EPS is FOR SALE!!! It's loaded with 4X memory expansion, and it's virtually new. I'm the only one who ever touches it, and it never leaves my house. It's in superb condition. In addition to my EPS, I'm also selling the following items: ATARI MEGA4, MIDEX+ (multiport MIDI interface), Cubase 3.0 (sequencer), and Avalon 2.0 sample editor (works great with EPS). If interested, please email me privately. Thank You... From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Mon Feb 7 22:40:36 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Feb 94 22:39 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24702; Tue, 8 Feb 94 08:41:37 +0300 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Read This! To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 8:41:37 SADT Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Hi All, I notice a number of people are looking for the samples on reed.edu. There are more looking for other new samples too. Well if you're unable to ftp or want to swap samples here's what I propose: I've got the entire ftp.reed archive on disk as well as a load of mine (dance, ambient, techno, vocal, kraftwerk type sounds) and I DESPERATELY want to increase my collection. If you want any of the ftp.reed samples just mail me say 5 disks and I promise to return the samples you want (make sure you tell me which disks you want off the archive) asap via airmail on your disks. If you want anything else from my collection then just specify what type of sound you want and I will fill up the disks. :) All I ask for return is that when you send me the disks you fill em with some of the sound collection you might have. Here's my mailing address: Kon Wilms Box 5013, Walmer 6065, Port Elizabeth, Southern Africa Now I realise that the distance is far but airmail takes only 3 days to here from anywhere in the world, and for 5 disks it's reasonably cheap! If you're interested just send me some private mail before you send your disks so I can know to look out for them! >From time to time I will upload a disk or two from my collection to the ftp site for anyone to ftp (who has that capability). Ofcourse I will not upload commercial packs or anything the sender does not want uploaded! Lastly (this is a long message) if you out there send me commercial sound collections I will repay you by sending some of my commercial collections. And to anyone that objects; I buy a lot of commercial stuff and I personally don't believe it's hurting anyone to trade maybe a collection between 1 or two EPS/16+/asr-10/ts sample fanatics :) Later all Kon -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Tue Feb 8 00:46:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 00:45 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26026; Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:47:51 +0300 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Read this.. more info To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:47:51 SADT Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Hi All, me again :) Just some more infos... I will be compiling a full list of all my sounds and this list will go to everyone who mails me some disks to sample-swap. There's a lot of stuff (I have about 15 sample-cd's) so no-one can lose out. :) I'll post a 'new list' of sounds when I send out to anyone. If you want your sounds added to this post-list then let me know. If not then no problem; they will not be distributed. Latly, make sure you send your package airmail :) BTW since I have an asr-10, I can handle all type of requests. I hope we can pull this off. Maybe it can run as the EPS-postage-list ? Must be some way we can integrate it with the ftp site et al... heck we already have (silly me) :) Later all -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Tue Feb 8 01:37:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 01:36 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <00174-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 10:36:02 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 10:35:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 10:35:59 +0100 Message-Id: <9402080935.AAfidibus20289@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no (Terje) X-Sender: tgf@fidibus.uio.no Subject: ECS 4 ASR ? ***** I posted this 4-5 days ago. Please ignore if you have seen it before. It has not been sent to me from reed. No other mail was from reed for a week. Today, a lot of mail came but that was dated today. Is this a further indication that there are too many subscrivers for the mail server to handle all the traffic? or a known accident/service ? ***** Question: Does the document: "External Command Specification ..."(ECS) exist for the ASR-10? Background: ECS exist as separate documents for the EPS classic and the 16+. It gives details on the system exclusive MIDI commands for those samplers. In USA it can be had by calling Ensoniq Customer Support. I made a request for this a little over a year ago. The ECS may not have been printed yet? Perhaps the printshop are waiting for the new MIDI support that has been rumoured? Did the vers 2.0 of the OS have any new MIDI features? Since the ASR-10 seem to speak the same language as EPS-16+ there may not be any crisis for people. If ECS for the ASR actually exist, please let me/us know. Terje From csugrad.cs.vt.edu!cfowler Tue Feb 8 09:20:59 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.173.41.74 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 09:20 PST Received: from localhost (cfowler@localhost) by csugrad.cs.vt.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA27045 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:20:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:20:13 -0500 From: Christian Fowler Message-Id: <199402081720.MAA27045@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: FORMAT HD? I have a EPS 16+ turbo. Does anyone know how to fromat an external SCSI hard drive for it? It finds the drive all right but I don't know how to format it to EPS format (I assume there is such athing). Christian From larch.cadif.cornell.edu!rob Tue Feb 8 10:12:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.253.78 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:10 PST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:10 PST Received: from [128.84.245.150] ([128.84.245.150]) by LARCH.CADIF.CORNELL.EDU (MX V3.1C) with SMTP; Tue, 08 Feb 1994 13:10:34 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: rob@larch.cadif.cornell.edu (Rob Levine) Subject: Re: FORMAT HD? Christian, It sounds like you boot the EPS16+ from the internal flash. The 'FORMAT SCSI DRIVE' option is only available if you boot from an OS on diskette. So basically, just boot off your supplied 1.3 OS diskette, select Cmd/System MIDI and scroll until you find the desired command. Follow the intructions presented with the option. Select the default interleave (INTERLEAVE=0) option. It seems to work most of the time. -- rob -- > I have a EPS 16+ turbo. Does anyone know how to fromat an external >SCSI hard drive for it? It finds the drive all right but I don't know how >to format it to EPS format (I assume there is such athing). > >Christian ------------------------------------------------------- Rob Levine Courseware Studio Cornell University 114 Hollister Hall 607-255-6084 ------------------------------------------------------- From satalink.com!legion Tue Feb 8 11:58:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.204.28.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 11:57 PST Received: from satalink.UUCP by ubos.voicenet.com with UUCP id AA19770 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 8 Feb 1994 14:02:26 -0500 Received: by satalink (PCB-UUCP 1.1c) id 51443C; Tue, 8 Feb 94 14:01:30 -0640 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS 2X Memory for sale. CHEAP! From: legion@satalink.com (Legion) Message-Id: <1.58325.14.0C51443C@satalink.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 11:28:00 -0640 Organization: DSC/Voicenet * Ivyland, PA * (215) 443-9434 I have an ASR. And I have a 2x cartridge for the EPS Classic. I don't *need* a 2x cartridge for the EPS. Please buy this from me. It is the EPS ME-1(2?) that only works with the EPS classic. It does not work with the EPS 16+. As it is the original Ensoniq item it has no SCSI. It will boost the memory of an EPS (classic) to 1 meg. I'm asking $35 obo. At $35 I will pay all shipping first class US Registered mail to your door in the US. Please read lines # 3 and 4 again. Thank you. David Legion@satalink.com From amail.mot.com!John_Lambrou-CJL008 Tue Feb 8 13:13:25 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:07 PST Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.15 for ) id AA05878; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:07:49 -0600 Received: from ilba.mot.com (ilba.corp.mot.com) by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.15 for ) id AA10284; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:07:48 -0600 Received: by ilba.mot.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11599; Tue, 8 Feb 94 15:05:39 -0600 From: John_Lambrou-CJL008@amail.mot.com Received: by amail.mot.com via Worldtalk with X400 (2.3.0/1.38.1.2) id WT09568.20; Tue, 08 Feb 1994 15:05:36 CST Date: 8 Feb 94 15:05:23 -0600 To: eps#064#reed.edu%smtpgw@amail.mot.com (Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: Classic DIY SCSI and 4X memory expansion? Message-Id: <"Macintosh */PRMD=MOT/ADMD=MOT/C=US/"@MHS> Greetings eps enthusiasts, Any schematics floating around for a do-it-yourself SCSI interface and/or 4X memory expansion for the Classic? thanks in advance, john From columbia.edu!em130 Tue Feb 8 14:02:31 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.59.40.132 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 14:02 PST Received: by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu id AA02901 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:01:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:55:29 -0500 (EST) From: Eyal Marcovici Subject: Memory Expansion To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I own the Eps 16+ keyboard. I would very much like to expand the memory 4x. If anybody out there has the 4x expander and would like to sell it, or if you know where I can get it please e-mail me: em130@columbia.edu thanx. From acs.bu.edu!jna Tue Feb 8 20:28:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.197.152.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 20:28 PST Received: from ACS4.BU.EDU by acs.bu.edu (5.61+++/AIX-3.2) id AA145546; Tue, 8 Feb 94 23:25:40 -0500 From: jna@acs.bu.edu (John Adams) Received: by acs4.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA94586; Tue, 8 Feb 94 23:24:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 23:24:48 -0500 Message-Id: <9402090424.AA94586@acs4.bu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: FORSALE: EPS Classic Loaded If yours sells, I've got another one sitting here. EPS w/ 4X memory expander and pedal $760 OS2.49 too From vuse.vanderbilt.edu!rogerstw Tue Feb 8 23:29:46 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.59.100.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 94 23:28 PST Received: from necs.vuse by vuse.vanderbilt.edu (8.6.5/SMI-4.1/VUSE-1.12) id BAA09165; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 01:28:29 -0600 Received: by necs.vuse (4.1/SMI-4.0/DRL-2a) id AA12530; Wed, 9 Feb 94 01:28:28 CST Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 01:28:28 CST From: rogerstw@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Todd Rogers) Message-Id: <9402090728.AA12530@necs.vuse> To: eps@REED.edu Subject: sounds? Hello! I have a problem. I have NO sounds for my EPS classic. It's a long story, but I only have about four sounds, and I'm trying to sell the thing. Anybody have any suggestions as to where I can amass a decent library for just a little money? Also, has anyone ever heard of an emulator for the PC that could read EPS sound files? It would make sharing sounds really easy over the Internet. Anyway, if anyone has some pointers at finding sounds, I'd be glad to hear them. Thanks! Todd Rogers rogerstw@vuse.vanderbilt.edu From sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au!steveq Wed Feb 9 04:24:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.203.228.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 04:24 PST Received: from sndcrft.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by perth.dialix.oz.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) with UUCP id UAA07991 for reed.edu!eps; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:24:04 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id <0die@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; Tue, 8 Feb 94 20:06:16 PST Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 20:06:16 PST Message-Id: <9402090406.0die@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Monthly posting of FAQ THE EPS USERS SURVIVAL KIT Contents: EPS users mailing list. Transoniq Hacker information. Selected Software. Bug List. ********************** EPS users mailing list ************************* The EPS mailing list is for the discussion of the Ensoniq EPS family of digital sampling keyboards. Members post questions, answers, informal reviews, and other information. The mailing list includes nearly 115 men and women from North America, Europe, and Australia. Recently sample swapping (via e-mail and ftp) has started. Ask the group how to join in (PD software avaliable). All you need is a PC/Mac/Atari with a 3.5" drive and some way of getting files off the network into the PC /Mac/Atari. To subscribe to the list send your email details to: eps-request@reed.edu The address for the mailing list is: eps@reed.edu When you send email to that address, the machine there sends a copy to each individual on the list. If you have problems or questions about to using the list, send your query to one of these addresses: eps-request@reed.edu owner-eps@reed.edu Please don't send subscribe/unsunscribe requests to the list (eps@reed.edu). Archives of past discussions are available as compressed text files via anonymous ftp to ftp.reed.edu. The file(s) are in /pub/eps/digests, and were compressed using gnuzip. There are quite a few archives available in the format "eps-digestN.z" where N = (1,2,3...N) "eps-digest1.z" starts the archives and covers the period from November 1990 through to now. Our current ftp site is ftp.reed.edu and the subdirectories in this area are /pub/eps: /digests past mailing list messages /docs [also home to the Survival.kit] /incoming drop point for public domain EPS stuff /samples/PD /samples/aiff /samples/demo /samples/misc /samples/vfx /system-software /utils Drop Scott Fisher or Steve Quartly a line if you need further info... scott@psy.uwa.oz.au or steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au ************************* Transoniq Hacker ***************************** Transoniq Hacker (TH) is an independent users support magazine for Ensoniq products. It provides... * Reviews of samples and patches * Software Reviews * New products news * Free Patches (for Ensoniq Synths) * Phone network for free help * Programming tips * How-to articles * Questions and answers (The interface) * Free Classified adds * Interviews * ...and 3rd party company support i.e... Software, Memory Expanders, SCSI Drives etc. In the forum "The Interface" where letters get answered, not only by TH staff but "real" people at Ensoniq, who offer their services for this section. I have subscribed for 4 years now and all I can say is that you SHOULD subscribe, nothing else comes close to TH for supporting us EPS and Ensoniq users in general. TH provide a money back guarantee that if you do not think your subscription has paid for its self in 3 issues (1 a month) then you can claim back your subscription. Alternatively they offer a 3 month "skeptics" subscription offer. There is no-way (practically) that you will get your fingers burnt with them, if you don't like TH you get ALL your money back. First time subscribers get a special deal, 12 monthly issues for $18 US ($25 All others outside the USA) This is $5 off the subscription price. Special "skeptics" deal is 3 issues (3 months) for $5 US ($7 Non US). After the first year you revert to... $23/year (US$32 outside the US). HOW TO SUBSCRIBE? Three methods... 1) Mail your cheque (payable to "Transoniq Hacker") OR your (Mastercard/Visa) number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to... Transoniq Hacker 1402 SW Upland Drive, Portland, OR 97221. Phone: 503/227-6848 (8 a.m. to 9 p.m. PST). 2) Phone their TOLL-FREE 1-800-548-8925 (US only) and give your Mastercard/Visa number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to the answering machine (24 Hour service). 3) Alternatively and this is a real PLUS!! you can contact Eric (the publisher and owner of TH) via Compuserve on... 73260.3353@compuserve.com You can give your (Mastercard/Visa) details to him over the net, with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code. Why not drop him a line and have a chat about TH (say Scott sent you, Eric will go ... Eh? What? Who is that? :-) The other good thing about having email contact with TH is that you can send in letters/articles easily and quickly and have a chat to Eric at the same time. *************************** Selected Software ******************************** You are what you eat right? Well the EPS is what it eats too :-) Without good software the EPS\16 Plus ain't much use. Below are a selection of products that I have found make a difference to the EPS's appeal... Diskette Utilities: For EPS & PCs, Geibler enterprises Ensoniq Diskette Manager (EDM) is a good thing. It formats, copies and does just about everything to not only EPS disks but all Ensoniq Formats (Mirage, ESQ-80, VFX-SD, SD-1). This is also good for storing EPS disks on your PC'd hard disk in DOS format. Makes it easy to send EPS disks via the NET too. For more info, write to Geibler Enterprises 8038 Morgan Road Liverpool, N.Y. 13090 U.S.A. For EPS and ATARI, Steve Quartly has Share-Ware avaliable that he wrote. Does everything EDM does with EPS disks and MORE. Contact Steve at.. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au This is also available at our current ftp site. Effects (for 16 Plus): For the EPS 16 PLus, How long have you been waiting for Ensoniq to add some more FX algorithms to the unit? Waveboy industries have released a whole bunch (16) of new FX (yes brand new!) for the EPS 16 Plus. They load straight into the EPS FX chip (ESP chip) from diskette. One of the algorithms is a PITCH SHIFTER that lets you plug a mic into the EPS and use it as a LIVE FX unit. These FX are SIMPLY BRILLIANT!! For more info... Waveboy Industries. PO Box 233 Paoli PA, 19301 U.S.A. PH: (215) 251-9562. EPS and Midi programming: For those of you struggling with the EPS sysex and MIDI while trying to write your own code there is a whole bunch of EPS sysex routines written in turbo-C avaliable for anonymous ftp... AT: louie.udel.edu IN: /pub/midi/software/ibm The files are eps.README (presented below) and eps.tar.Z eps.README... >This is my library of EPS system-exclusive routines. It includes >routines that implement most of the SysEx messages defined in the Ensoniq >Performance Sampler Extern Command Specification. Those messages that are >not implemented can be simulated by using the Virtual Button Press message. >These routines were written in Turbo C, for the IBM PC and MPU-401, >which explains some of the identifiers. However, it should be simple enough >to port them to any other platform. All of the MPU-specific routines >are defined in 'mpu.c' and 'mpu.h'. There is some IBM-specific stuff in >'eps.c' and 'eps.h', too. These four files should be the only ones you >need to modify. > >I've also included 'epsl.lib', a Turbo C large model library, >containing all of this stuff, for those who can use it. > >If you find any bugs, have comments to make, or just want to send >me a line, I can be reached at arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov . ************************ EPS users bug list **************************** How many times have you seen ERROR 144 - REBOOT? What caused it? Well, Richard Hagen is the keeper of the EPS/EPS 16 PLus BUG LIST. So if you have any BUGS to report or you wan't to know if the BUG you have found is a rare and endangered species send email to... richard@cit.gu.edu.au. ************************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to gain by supporting the above groups, I am simply a satisfied customer, trying to help fellow EPS users. From suburbia.apana.org.au!kallen Wed Feb 9 06:59:54 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.189.54.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 06:59 PST Received: from werple.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA06315 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:01:56 +1100 Received: from suburbia.apana.org.au (root@suburbia.apana.org.au [192.188.107.90]) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA13470 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:01:47 +1100 Received: from localhost (kallen@localhost) by suburbia.apana.org.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) id BAA29928 for eps@reed.edu; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:02:21 +1100 Message-Id: <199402091402.BAA29928@suburbia.apana.org.au> Subject: ASR & IBM SCSI To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:02:20 +1100 (EST) From: "Arthur Kakouris" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1243 First off I'd like to thank everyone who's helped with my previous posts. The info's been really valuable.... Now we get intricate... A few people have posted about hooking their ASR through their Macs and using their SCSI device in their Max to store and retrieve sounds (at least that's how I've read it).. So far, I've been looking at hooking my SCSI device directly to my ASR. IS it possible to hook the ASR to a SCSI device in an IBM? If possible, I'd like to use an internal Syquest in my IBM, and then just change the cart when I want it to communicate with the ASR. Can this be done? Easily? Is it flexible or do I have to play around with jumpers / terminators whatever each time I want the SCSI device to communicate with a different device? I'm going to need the IBM to still be able to read from an IDE drive while the ASR talks to the SCSI. I kow I want a lot but technology makes you greedy. All help appreciated... P.S. I'd get a Mac but I get enough radiation as it is... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arthur Kakouris kallen@suburbia.apana.org.au =============================================================================== From mail.uunet.ca!jetform!smtplink.jetform.com!jracicot Wed Feb 9 07:43:05 1994 Return-Path: <@mail.uunet.ca:smtplink.jetform.com!jracicot@jetform> Received: from 142.77.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 07:42 PST Received: from jetform by mail.uunet.ca with UUCP id <60173(1)>; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 10:39:40 -0500 Received: from smtplink.jetform.com by jetform.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17255; Wed, 9 Feb 94 10:42:00 EST Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.jetform.com (1.30/SMTPLink) id A04460; Wed, 09 Feb 94 10:38:06 EST Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 10:38:06 -0500 From: jracicot Message-Id: <9402091038.A04460@smtplink.jetform.com> To: eps@reed.edu, steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au Subject: UnSubscribe Please... UnSubscribe Please... From csugrad.cs.vt.edu!cfowler Wed Feb 9 08:03:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.173.41.74 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:03 PST Received: from localhost (cfowler@localhost) by csugrad.cs.vt.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA00868; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:03:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:03:08 -0500 From: Christian Fowler Message-Id: <199402091603.LAA00868@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, jracicot@smtplink.jetform.com, steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au Subject: Re: UnSubscribe Please... I think you have to send your message to eps-request. c From uahis1.uah.edu!ebs330!claassen Wed Feb 9 08:39:24 1994 Return-Path: <@uahis1.uah.edu:claassen@ebs330> Received: from 146.229.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 08:37 PST Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 10:20:09 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13464; Wed, 9 Feb 94 10:19:05 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9402091619.AA13464@ebs330> Subject: Re: sounds? To: rogerstw@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Todd Rogers) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 10:19:04 -0600 (CST) Cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) In-Reply-To: <9402090728.AA12530@necs.vuse> from "Todd Rogers" at Feb 9, 94 01:28:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 949 > I have a problem. I have NO sounds for my EPS classic. It's a long story, but I only have about > four sounds, and I'm trying to sell the thing. Anybody have any suggestions as to where I can > amass a decent library for just a little money? Also, has anyone ever heard of an emulator for the > PC that could read EPS sound files? It would make sharing sounds really easy over the Internet. > Anyway, if anyone has some pointers at finding sounds, I'd be glad to hear them. Try ftp.reed.edu... There's a decent library for general samples. If its worth it, get a sampling CD, that should give you instruments till you're blue in the face. (and you'll probably be blue in the face, from trying to build all those instruments) -- Arne F. Claassen |"In cows we trust | EPS Classic * D4 | E pluribus Moo" | Juno 106 | MTV for eMpty minds | Mac Centris 650 From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Wed Feb 9 09:20:03 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 09:19 PST Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08289; Wed, 9 Feb 94 09:23:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:18:10 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: ASR & IBM SCSI To: Arthur Kakouris Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <199402091402.BAA29928@suburbia.apana.org.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Feb 1994, Arthur Kakouris wrote: > A few people have posted about hooking their ASR through their Macs and > using their SCSI device in their Max to store and retrieve sounds (at > least that's how I've read it).. munch > So far, I've been looking at hooking my SCSI device directly to my ASR. munch > IS it possible to hook the ASR to a SCSI device in an IBM? If possible, > I'd like to use an internal Syquest in my IBM, and then just change the As a disgrundled owner of an ASR-10 with a SCSI interface, I spoke with the tech support at Ensonic about my problems ie the ASR hooked to the Mac prevents the Mac from booting(not an address conflict), and they said Send in your problems via fax, and we will get back to you. SO, their fax number is 610 647 8908 atten Al Smith. Would all you folks who responded to my prior notes about the SCSI ASR problems (esp the person who used a SCSI probe to determine the ACK timing problem) PLEASE send the info to Ensonic. They tell me there are no problems with the system, and that "oh, those mailing list persons just bitch about nonexistant problems." Oh, heck I must be dreaming...... Thanks From tuns.ca!stanfiph Wed Feb 9 09:50:37 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 134.190.1.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 09:49 PST Message-Id: Received: by newton.ccs.tuns.ca (1.37.109.6/15.6) id AA26438; Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:46:21 -0400 From: Greg Tiller Subject: TS10 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:46:21 AST Full-Name: Greg Tiller Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Hey Fellow Ensoniq Users.. I was wondering if anyone knows if Ensoniq plans on offering support to read sample formats other then Ensoniq's own? I remeber a posting on this a while ago, but don't think there were any replies.. Frankly I am surprised with the new releases of OS's for both the ASR10, and the TS10 that they haven't offered support to read say K2000, Akai, or roland sample formats (wouldn't that be nice!) anyways if anyone knows for sure whether they plan to do this or not feel free to let me know (I can never get through to Ensoniq they are always busy) :( From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Wed Feb 9 11:06:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:03 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA28515; Wed, 9 Feb 94 14:02:39 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D595DE0@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Wed, 09 Feb 94 14:04:16 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Ensoniq's Attitude Date: Wed, 09 Feb 94 13:58:00 EST Message-Id: <2D595DE0@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 33 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 After reading (and deleting) our friend's last message re: ASR-10 SCSI problems, I started to get pissed off. Ensoniq has had nothing but problems with their sampling gear since they started making the Mirage back in 1600 B.C. Quite frankly, I'm sick of hearing about their customer-unresponsive attitudes. I've owned an EPS Classic since they first came out a number of years ago, and I love the keyboard...lots of fuck for the buck...despite the ERROR 144 REBOOT?'s that took them _years_ to fix. But Ensoniq has a tendancy to forget that they are here to serve _us_, not the other way around. The example that this person cites, is the epitome of Ensoniq tech support...we report a problem, and they deny it exists, then have the audacity to say that a core group of power users (i.e. us) don't know what the fuck we're talking about. Well, I say "Screw you, Ensoniq!" I don't care how much I like your product, my next sampler will be purchased from a company who _respects_ their customers, who makes a concerted effort to politely and effectivly support it's user base, and who has a reputation for quality _the first time around_! mad as hell, and not taking it anymore, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer Not only are we trying to get our keyboards to work for us, but for the others From ak.msc.edu!alan Wed Feb 9 11:11:27 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:10 PST Received: from ak.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA18662; Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:10:12 -0600 Received: by ak.msc.edu (931110.SGI/931108.SGI) for @noc.msc.edu:eps@reed.edu id AA00731; Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:08:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:08:28 -0600 From: alan@ak.msc.edu (Alan Klietz) Message-Id: <9402091908.AA00731@ak.msc.edu> To: "Arthur Kakouris" , eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: ASR & IBM SCSI >So far, I've been looking at hooking my SCSI device directly to my ASR. >IS it possible to hook the ASR to a SCSI device in an IBM? If possible, >I'd like to use an internal Syquest in my IBM, and then just change the >cart when I want it to communicate with the ASR. Can this be done? This is a good question. On powerup, the ASR-10 does some things which cause IBM PCs SCSI controllers to become totally discombulated. The reset flips the initiator back to its ROM boot program. The ANSI X3.131 1985 spec says that SCSI bus masters should _not_ automatically reset the bus on powerup, or at the very least provide an option to the user to disable this function. Otherwise there's no way to put two masters on the same bus! I wrote a letter to Ensoniq to about this, but never got a reply. To get around this problem, I built a SCSI crossbar switch. In the A position, the busses are connected. In the B position, the busses are split and respectively terminated. So I flip the switch to B, boot the PC and the ASR, and then flip the switch to A. So everything is cool right? Wrong. Problem #2: the ASR refuses to talk to any device that it cannot poll at boot time. It's a classic catch-22 situation: if the PC and the ASR are connected at boot time, the ASR can see the drive, but the PC itself is dead. And vice versa. So what I did was get an external box for my Syquest drive, and placed it on the near side of the crossbar switch with respect to the ASR: Term | PC ----- Crossbar switch --- Syquest --- ASR | Term It's a kludge, but it works. -Al -- Alan E. Klietz Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc. 1200 Washington Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55415 Tel: +1 612 337 3520 Internet: alan@msc.edu Fax: +1 612 337 3400 From comp.uark.edu!pstaffor Wed Feb 9 11:20:11 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 130.184.7.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:19 PST Received: from comp.uark.edu by uafhp.uark.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA15002; Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:20:30 -0600 Received: by (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01947; Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:19:42 CST Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:19:41 -0600 (CST) From: Phillip Stafford Subject: Re: TS10 To: Greg Tiller Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 451 More than likely Ensoniq will NOT support other vendors' or a MIDI sample dump standard because, like Roland, they've spent a great deal of time and money to amass a large sound library which supports their machines. They don't want to be in the software buisness, just hardware so I wouldn't think they'd make their machines capable of reading other manufacturers sounds because their sounds could be read into other formats as well. Phillip From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Wed Feb 9 11:42:12 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 15.254.48.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 11:41 PST Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by hpfcla.fc.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA06901; Wed, 9 Feb 94 12:39:36 -0700 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (1.37.109.4/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA27520; Wed, 9 Feb 94 12:40:56 -0700 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9402091940.AA27520@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: TS10 To: stanfiph@tuns.ca Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 12:40:55 MST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Greg Tiller" at Feb 9, 94 1:46 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] > Hey Fellow Ensoniq Users.. > I was wondering if anyone knows if Ensoniq plans on > offering support to read sample formats other then Ensoniq's own? > I remeber a posting on this a while ago, but don't think there were any > replies.. Frankly I am surprised with the new releases of OS's for both the > ASR10, and the TS10 that they haven't offered support to read say > K2000, Akai, or roland sample formats (wouldn't that be nice!) anyways > if anyone knows for sure whether they plan to do this or not feel > free to let me know (I can never get through to Ensoniq they are > always busy) :( I remember back in the heyday of the original EPS, a sales rep told me that 3 out of 4 samplers sold in the US was an EPS. (This was a sales rep talking... so take it with a grain of salt.) I'm sure the numbers aren't quite that good for Ensoniq anymore... but still they may be thinking that by being compatible with all the previous Ensoniqs, they have access to the largest sample library in the world, and perhaps it's not worth the development costs to support any other formats. By supporting somebody elses format you also send a message that makes the competition look like a more credible alternative. It still would be nice though... ============================================================================ /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / Ski Colorado! | \ / / | ============================================================================ From csugrad.cs.vt.edu!cfowler Wed Feb 9 12:18:27 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.173.41.74 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 12:17 PST Received: from localhost (cfowler@localhost) by csugrad.cs.vt.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id PAA20928; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:17:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:17:15 -0500 From: Christian Fowler Message-Id: <199402092017.PAA20928@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude hey jack- send mail to postmaster@ensoniq.com they'd eb pleased to hear from you :) christian From SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU!sysa.c-engr1.siu.edu!A340567105 Wed Feb 9 12:55:03 1994 Return-Path: <@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU:A340567105@sysa.c-engr1.siu.edu> Received: from 131.230.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 12:54 PST Received: from zeus.c-engr2.siu.edu by SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Wed, 09 Feb 94 14:50:34 CST Received: from SYSA.C-ENGR1.SIU.EDU by zeus.c-engr2.siu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03037; Wed, 9 Feb 94 14:52:40 CST Message-Id: <9402092052.AA03037@zeus.c-engr2.siu.edu> Received: (from user A340567105) by SYSA.c-engr1.siu.edu; 09 Feb 94 14:54:22 CST Subject: go Greg! To: eps@reed.edu From: A340567105@sysa.c-engr1.siu.edu Date: 09 Feb 94 14:54:22 CST I second the notion. I'm sick of my EPS f**king up. Just when you got the whole groove programmed, all the voices tweaked the way you want them, the volume right, etc., you turn to hit record, and the piece of crap goes out on you! Has happened to me too many times to count... From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Wed Feb 9 13:11:52 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 13:10 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA28663; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:09:00 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D597B7E@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Wed, 09 Feb 94 16:10:38 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude Date: Wed, 09 Feb 94 16:04:00 EST Message-Id: <2D597B7E@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I'd be willing to bet that there's Ensoniq lurkers on the list that got the gist of my sentiments =) g. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPLY FROM: Winer, Greg Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:17:15 -0500 From: Christian Fowler To: eps@reed.edu, gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude hey jack- send mail to postmaster@ensoniq.com they'd eb pleased to hear from you :) christian From Dartmouth.EDU!Stephen.W.Berkley Wed Feb 9 15:19:14 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.170.16.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 15:18 PST Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (8.6.5.Beta11+DND/4.5HUB) id SAA04221; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:18:14 -0500 Message-id: <9385439@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 09 Feb 94 18:18:16 EST From: Stephen.W.Berkley@Dartmouth.EDU (Stephen W. Berkley) Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude To: eps@reed.edu It must be hard to make this kind of statement with the last name, "Winer". :) No flames, just perspective. Steve Berkley From SDSC.EDU!pauls Wed Feb 9 16:23:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 198.17.46.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:17 PST Received: from pebbles.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.8) id AA20713; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:17:28 PST Received: by pebbles.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/1.8-client) id AA08099; Thu, 10 Feb 94 16:17:23 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:17:23 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bishop Skibitzke Subject: Re: go Greg! To: A340567105@sysa.c-engr1.siu.edu Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9402092052.AA03037@zeus.c-engr2.siu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Feb 1994 A340567105@sysa.c-engr1.siu.edu wrote: > I second the notion. I'm sick of my EPS f**king up. Just when you got the > whole groove programmed, all the voices tweaked the way you want them, the > volume right, etc., you turn to hit record, and the piece of crap goes out > on you! > > Has happened to me too many times to count... > > Just to generate some momentum and a sense of consensus, I THIRD THE MOTION! Which is why I'm so appreciative of all contributors and maintainers of this list. I dont want to speak for Terje (I think it was he who told me this) but if I'm correct the motivation behind most of the software submitted to this group is to make up for the SHORTCOMINGS of the EPS line. +****************************************************************************+ = Paul Skibitzke (P. FAuST) = = San Diego Supercomputer Center = = Sonification Project = = pauls@sdsc.edu = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= = "Enjoy life, eat out more often" = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= From SDSC.EDU!pauls Wed Feb 9 16:24:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 198.17.46.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:20 PST Received: from pebbles.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.8) id AA20760; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:20:30 PST Received: by pebbles.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/1.8-client) id AA08107; Thu, 10 Feb 94 16:20:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:20:25 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Bishop Skibitzke Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude To: "Winer, Greg" Cc: * EPS List In-Reply-To: <2D597B7E@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Winer, Greg wrote: > I'd be willing to bet that there's Ensoniq lurkers on the list that got the > gist of my sentiments =) If they are, I hope they take note that I'm never buying another Ensoniq product. The EPS16+ was a good beginner sampler for me, but their credibility and reliablility lacks...BIGTIME. Any others? +****************************************************************************+ = Paul Skibitzke (P. FAuST) = = San Diego Supercomputer Center = = Sonification Project = = pauls@sdsc.edu = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= = "Enjoy life, eat out more often" = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= From cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Wed Feb 9 16:48:33 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.22 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:45 PST Received: by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50); id AA18138 Thu, 10 Feb 1994 11:43:46 +1100 (from conway) Message-Id: <9402100043.18138@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: SyQuest Blues To: davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 11:43:44 EST From: Thomas Charles CONWAY Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9402091624.AA12190@etn.com>; from "davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com" at Feb 9, 94 11:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] > > Any luck with your Hard Drive yet? Do you still plan on uplaoding any > of your samples? > > Thanks > > TAD > The saga of my hard drive continues: 3 SCSI cables and a $50 service fee later, I still don't have a functional setup. The service center (Electric Factory, Melbourne) say "We use our SCSI cable and it all works fine - we don't know what the problem is". So much for service. Does anyone have any idea if I should get some special cable (perhaps one that has been blessed by a 17th century monk, or one manufactured by aliens)? Once it _is_ working, I'll be uploading sounds. My intellect and time are limited: I can't do _everything_ at once. :-) Thomas -- | Thomas Conway They who dream by day are cognizant | | Computer Science of many things which escape those who | | Melbourne University dream only by night. | | conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au - A. E. Poe from Eleonora | From aero.org!obrien Wed Feb 9 16:54:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 130.221.192.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:50 PST Received: from antares.aero.org by aerospace.aero.org with SMTP (5.65c/6.0.GT) id AA01530 for eps@reed.edu; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 16:50:26 -0800 Posted-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 16:50:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199402100050.AA01530@aerospace.aero.org> Received: from anpiel.aero.org by antares.aero.org (4.1/AMS-1.0) id AA18633 for eps@reed.edu; Wed, 9 Feb 94 16:50:25 PST To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Feb 1994 15:17:15 EST." <199402092017.PAA20928@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 16:50:23 -0800 From: Mike O'Brien I dunno - I've always found Ensoniq's attitude to be remarkably open, particularly compared with others in the music biz, where contempt for the customer is, seemingly, one of the rules of the road. As far as I can tell, the service motto of Korg, Roland, etc. is, "Shut up, kid, ya bother me!" Unfortunately they're teeny and overly diversified, with the result that service is highly uneven, and products go out with inadequate customer beta testing. I was a beta tester for a newer set of EPS Classic ROMS, and encountered no trouble whatsoever. I let the EPS sit for a good long time, and now it crashes within 30 minutes of booting, whether you play it or not. Bad sockets? Bad memory? Who knows? I saw that "Color Me Bad" or whoever it was, was on the Leno show last night, and had a TS-10 on stage as part of their backup band. "Brave fellows", I thought, just as I thought of the fellow in the orchestra pit, being the entire orchestra for a musical in a small theater in San Diego, who had an ASR-10. I guess these things don't ALWAYS blow up in performance. But if I DO have a problem that normal channels won't resolve, it's nice to actually have some names of people I can call. Try that with Roland or Korg. Mike O'Brien From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Feb 9 18:38:39 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.62 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 18:37 PST Received: from 128.250.1.22 by scratchy.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.23) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 18:38 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50); id AA21461 Thu, 10 Feb 1994 13:36:16 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18909; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:34:00 WST Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:34:00 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9402100234.AA18909@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EnsonnnnnniiiiiiERROR-144 >Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude >On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Winer, Greg wrote: > >> I'd be willing to bet that there's Ensoniq lurkers on the list that got the >> gist of my sentiments =) > > If they are, I hope they take note that I'm never buying > another Ensoniq product. The EPS16+ was a good beginner > sampler for me, but their credibility and reliablility > lacks...BIGTIME. > Any others? Ensoniq samplers (in Australia) represent the best bang-for-buck ratio by far. To get equivalent functionality in another brand you have to spend another $2000 here. I have been using their gear since the Mirage came out, moved through EPS EPS16+ and intend to get an ASR10. As for how their credibility and reliability, compare them to any like board, K2000, that's hardly the worlds most stable platform. The high-end Roland samplers suffer also. It's a fact of like that when you are pushing the envelope in the low-budget-R&D world of samplers you loose solidity, that happens with every brand. That said, Ensoniq do seem to be slow to fix obvious design flaws in their gear,however, the company (although it has a large-as-life market penetration) is actually a hand-full of people...30+ ? How many people do you empluy Ensoniq? Anyhow it's about 1% of the number Roland, Yamaha, Korg etc have working on their boards. One thing I wish Ensoniq would do is release the OS info so we can all start hacking the EPS/EPS16+ operating system. Unfortunately it's too closely related to the ASR10...I suppose we will have to wait until they completely re-write it from scratch for a new platform. If anyone has used a Mirage and Soundprocess OS, they will be salivating at the thought of what we could make an EPS16+ do. How about Bill letting us in on the secret of the FX chip at least?....I didn't think so. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v Joy is a Jaguar XJ6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic wife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From telerama.lm.com!raver909 Wed Feb 9 19:03:00 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 19:02 PST Received: from localhost (raver909@localhost) by telerama.lm.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id WAA04007; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:01:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 21:59:14 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: go Greg! To: Paul Bishop Skibitzke cc: A340567105@sysa.c-engr1.siu.edu, eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yeah I too must add to this. Ensoniq needs to learn a lesson. For instance: My EPS Classic still crashes despite from having all the fixes that have been suggested. Hint, my next sampler will probably be an Akai not an Ensoniq. Or perhaps a K2000. Ensoniq is going to get left behind if they don't support their customers. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From um.cc.umich.edu!david.jewett Wed Feb 9 19:32:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.211.144.18 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 19:31 PST Received: from him3.cc.umich.edu by mailrus.cc.umich.edu (5.65/1123-1.0) id AA22330; Wed, 9 Feb 94 22:30:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 22:28:34 EST From: david.jewett@um.cc.umich.edu To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <31203431@um.cc.umich.edu> X-Mts-Userid: GGB8 Subject: Hard Drive for 16+ Hi. Sorry if this is a redundant posting. I bought a 16 + w/ SCSI, and need a hard drive for it. What do you folks w/ 16+'s use as your hard drive and what do you recommend. Thanks in advance, and thanks to those who have replied earlier to my direct request (no need to repost). e-mail or post new responses. Thanks Dave From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Wed Feb 9 20:20:24 1994 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 20:18 PST Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <294532>; Wed, 9 Feb 1994 23:18:39 -0500 Received: by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05550; Wed, 9 Feb 94 23:14:52 EST From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9402100414.AA05550@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: go Greg! To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 23:14:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: ; from "Joe LeSesne" at Feb 9, 94 9:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Joe LeSesne wrote: | |Yeah I too must add to this. Ensoniq needs to learn a lesson. For |instance: My EPS Classic still crashes despite from having all the fixes |that have been suggested. Hint, my next sampler will probably be an Akai |not an Ensoniq. Or perhaps a K2000. Ensoniq is going to get left behind if |they don't support their customers. | Joe Next perspective... I have an EPS Classic and a SQ-R. After doing the keyboard fix, and making sure the EPS didn't overheat, I haven't had any problems with it, except for the data slider's mechanical failure. The SQ-R has been just fine except for when it gets caught in a MIDI loop and hangs, assumedly after being sent too many notes at once. Ensoniq people have seemed pretty friendly (at least those tuned in to the mailing list)... very different from Yamaha, which IMHO has horrid support. -- Mike From cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Wed Feb 9 21:26:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.22 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 21:25 PST Received: by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50); id AA25872 Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:59:39 +1100 (from conway) Message-Id: <9402100459.25872@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: EnsonnnnnniiiiiiERROR-144 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 15:59:38 EST From: Thomas Charles CONWAY X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Scott Fisher writes: > That said, Ensoniq do seem to be slow to fix obvious design flaws in their gear,however, the company (although it has a large-as-life market penetration) is > actually a hand-full of people...30+ ? > > How many people do you empluy Ensoniq? > > Anyhow it's about 1% of the number Roland, Yamaha, Korg etc have working > on their boards. Well, maybe when those of us who are students graduate, we should all go and apply for jobs at Ensoniq in software support :-) > > One thing I wish Ensoniq would do is release the OS info so we can all > start hacking the EPS/EPS16+ operating system. Unfortunately it's too > closely related to the ASR10...I suppose we will have to wait until > they completely re-write it from scratch for a new platform. > > If anyone has used a Mirage and Soundprocess OS, they will be salivating > at the thought of what we could make an EPS16+ do. How about Bill letting > us in on the secret of the FX chip at least?....I didn't think so. > Yet again this idea is raised, and yet again I support it. If Ensoniq haven't got the resources to fix the problems that we all know and hate, at least they might release the information so that someone else can.... Thomas -- | Thomas Conway They who dream by day are cognizant | | Computer Science of many things which escape those who | | Melbourne University dream only by night. | | conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au - A. E. Poe from Eleonora | From cs.bu.edu!crofoot Wed Feb 9 23:32:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.197.10.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Feb 94 23:31 PST Received: from csa.bu.edu by cs.bu.edu (8.6.4/Spike-2.1) id CAA14980; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:31:19 -0500 From: crofoot@cs.bu.edu (Matthew Crofoot) Received: from localhost by csa.bu.edu (8.6.4/Spike-2.1) id CAA02219; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:31:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:31:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199402100731.CAA02219@csa.bu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR-10 velocity and Digital i/o Hi, first off I have a question. I have been preparing for gig and I am trying to play a k2000 from my asr-10 through a Midi time piece II. All the midi works fine, but the k2000 keyboard has a very nice velocity curve, but when triggering from the asr-10, it uses the asr-10 velocity curves and I have to hit it really hard for notes to sound loud enough. I am trying to play in a way which makes it difficult for me to do this because I only have one hand free (the other is hitting a drum pad occasionally) I know there is a command for setting the playing style or feel of the keyboard and I have experimented with all settings from soft1 - hard 4 and they all seem non-linear and there are huge jumps in the sound... it seems like ensoniq made the ASR10 overally expressive for piano players and it is hard to hit a medium velocity synth pad and get the right feel. So my question is....is there a way other that playing feel to get a normal medium- high volumed sound from a softer hit and with little variation from the sound based on velocity unless I really hit it a lot or just barely touch it. I would like to find a way to transmit like this, or ???? Is there a way to set up the keyboard to not be velocity sensitive, or to transmit on a particular velocity, or is there a way to make a mtpII take incoming midi velocitys and re map them to a new value or add a percentage to them, or is there a way to make a k2000 not respond to velocity messages via midi? or to respond with a specific velocity? Thanks for all your help in this matter....on to the digital IO I recently purchased the di-10 board and got the OS2.0 operating system upgrade with it and let me just say...bugs bugs bugs While digitally sampling my keyboard periodically freaks out and begins playing all of the contents of internal memory at random intervals and also playing sounds that had been deleted, but were still in memory (the pointers where just removed from the FAT I guess) along with some digital distortion. The only way to stop it was to use the fx trick to cut out sound, and then I usually got an error 105 shortly after that with a reboot? I also had to re power cycle my scsi device to get the asr-10 to reload off of the scsi disk.. I am scared to keep my keyboard in digital i.o sample mode now.... I think that is where the problem lies. hopefully version 2.01 will be out soon! Matthew * * informatik . Struktur . Vektor RE:Search | "With your eyes open- * * | you know soft spoken * cyber-therial / industrial immersion | changes nothing, * * | a view so cruel." * * .info/contakt zone: crofoot@csa.bu.edu | -Skinny Puppy From ed.petech.ac.za!guest1 Thu Feb 10 00:11:33 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.96.7.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 00:10 PST Message-Id: Received: by ed.petech.ac.za (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18473; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:12:00 +0300 From: Kon Wilms Subject: Ensoniq To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:12:00 SADT Full-Name: Kon Wilms Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I must agree with Greg Winer's comments about Ensoniq support. I got my ASR-10 from the states, and when I tried to get some support here in Africa I was told by the dealer/distributor to 'shove it'. Basically he told me it's Ensoniq's policy not to honour any warranty should the machine be purchased from another country. This means I have no tech support or any warranty as I've been told. This sucks to say the least. I get the feeling here that Ensoniq don't give a damn about their customers. Our dealer here DOES give a damn IF you line his pockets. (No doubt he refuses to support me not because I purchased my ASR elsewhere but because he didn't get to make a profit). I have a good mind to put this all in a magazine like Keyboard. It seems that the only way you'll get a response from Ensoniq is if it's spelt out in public. My next purchase won't be Ensoniq.. it'll be Akai. Even as much as I like Ensoniq gear. :( Later -- ___________ __________ | | | \ Name ................ Kon "ToneDEF" Wilms |______ | |_______ | Address .......... guest1@ed.petech.ac.za | | | |__| | |______| |_________/ Food of preference ................ Pizza Car ....................... Fiat Uno Fire " The only good sixpack Recreational Beverage ...... Amstel Lager is a downed one " Sound system ....... 2x50w & 2x250w Sony From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Thu Feb 10 00:17:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 00:16 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA26446; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:42:06 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20316; Thu, 10 Feb 94 13:41:09 WST Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 13:41:09 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9402100541.AA20316@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Ensoniq. The other good thing about ensoniq, is that with a little persistance you can get to talk directly to the guys who designed the keyboard you are using. Try that with any other company. Also they are on the net! There's Transoniq Hacker. Opinion: One of the things that has made Ensoniq a (IMHO) great company is that they have always been on the forefront of technology at the lowest cost. Take the Mirage at the time it simply blew the competition out of the water as far as price went...I mean a sampler for under $3000 in those days was unheard of. Then came the ESQ-1....it had an 8 track SEQUENCER!!!! This blew away just about every keyboard manufactured at that time and for significantly less. The EPS was another breakthrough in price/features/ performance. Also Ensoniq were pioneering the "software driven" synth concept. Although Ensoniq have never openly released the OS info for us to hack the keyboards are essentially a blank-slate and whipped into shape by software, which makes them flexible...and perhaps explains why they have a few more bugs than most. I believe Ensoniq needs to (in it's next step) make a truely "open" platform, where they make the hardware and the initial software, but allow users also to write their own software for the machine...similar to the PC industry. Ensoniq has the oppertunity to set the "standards" here...however what should power it? Intel or Risc based chips???? :-) If ensoniq made the VOP-1 (very open platform 1) complete with modular design for adding HD, Memory, Voices etc etc (similar to the slots in PCs) I believe they would again take the lead. At the moment they appear to have become overdiversified. They should get back to a position of manufacturing say 1 keyboard (that can be featured up or down to match varying price points) and 1 FX unit that can be modified similarly. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v Joy is a Jaguar XJ6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic wife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinus.tt.luth.se!bebop.tt.luth.se!ELDJBU Thu Feb 10 02:45:58 1994 Return-Path: <@pinus.tt.luth.se:ELDJBU@bebop.tt.luth.se> Received: from 130.239.136.128 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 02:45 PST Received: from bebop.tt.luth.se by pinus.tt.luth.se with SMTP (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/IDA-1.2.8-NS) id AA23726; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 11:45:24 +0100 Received: from BEBOP/MAILQUEUE by bebop.tt.luth.se (Mercury 1.1); Thu, 10 Feb 94 11:40:34 MET+0100 To: eps@reed.edu From: "JOHAN BURMAN ELD92" Organization: StudieCentrum/HLu Date: 10 Feb 94 11:40:14 MET+1 Subject: Re: EnsonnnnnniiiiiiERROR-144 X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). Message-Id: <574C534DDE@bebop.tt.luth.se> > Ensoniq samplers (in Australia) represent the best bang-for-buck ratio by far. To get equivalent functionality in another brand you have to spend another > $2000 here. > > I have been using their gear since the Mirage came out, moved through EPS > EPS16+ and intend to get an ASR10. > > As for how their credibility and reliability, compare them to any like > board, K2000, that's hardly the worlds most stable platform. The high-end > Roland samplers suffer also. It's a fact of like that when you are pushing > the envelope in the low-budget-R&D world of samplers you loose solidity, that > happens with every brand. I don't know about the Rolands, but my K2000 has never ever crashed down on me during these last two years. On the other hand, the EPS I borrowed once to see what it was like, did little else than crashing all the time... As for the price, it seems that one will get what one pays for. (My Akai is a very solid piece of machinery too.) ----------------------------------------------------- - Johan Burman, eldjbu@tt.luth.se - - woom@ludd.luth.se - - - - woom uses akai equipment... - ----------------------------------------------------- From aston.ac.uk!m.g.overton Thu Feb 10 06:39:33 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.86.8.45 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 06:39 PST Message-Id: Via: uk.ac.aston; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:31:22 +0000 Received: from fp82045.aston.ac.uk by email.aston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <21355-0@email.aston.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:29:50 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:31:23 +0000 To: eps@reed.edu (EPS) From: m.g.overton@aston.ac.uk (Matthew G Overton) X-Sender: overtomg@email.aston.ac.uk Subject: Re: Ensoniq's Attitude Sender: m.g.overton@aston.ac.uk Peter Randlette wrote: >SO, their fax number is 610 647 8908 atten Al Smith. Would all you folks >who responded to my prior notes about the SCSI ASR problems (esp the >person who used a SCSI probe to determine the ACK timing problem) PLEASE >send the info to Ensonic. They tell me there are no problems with the >system, and that "oh, those mailing list persons just bitch about >nonexistant problems." Oh, heck I must be dreaming...... Greg Winer said: >The example that this person cites, is the epitome of Ensoniq tech >support...we report a problem, and they deny it exists, then have the >audacity to say that a core group of power users (i.e. us) don't know what >the fuck we're talking about. Well, I say "Screw you, Ensoniq!" Christian Fowler wrote: > send mail to postmaster@ensoniq.com > they'd eb pleased to hear from you :) In view of the above previous comments, why doesn't somebody email Ensoniq and say we're going to include you on the EPS List. That way they'll be able to see it's not a bunch of trouble makers, but, as Greg Winer also wrote "Not only are we trying to get our keyboards to work for us, but for the others". Ensoniq take the trouble to respond to criticisms, suggestions and feedback via the Transoniq Hacker. By opening up this list to them, they'll have an online-feed and be able to comment directly. After all, I believe that most Ensoniq owners trade up to new models (EPS -> 16+ -> ASR) especially if time and money has been invested in a sample collection. But with the ability of other manufacturers' samplers being able to read other manufacturers' samples, if Ensoniq piss us core-owners off, then the writing's going to be on the wall for them. What does anyone else think? Matt From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Feb 10 06:52:07 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 06:51 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA29571; Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:50:34 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D5A744D@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:52:13 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: EnsonnnnnniiiiiiERROR-144 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:45:00 EST Message-Id: <2D5A744D@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 59 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 "As for how their credibility and reliability, compare them to any like board, K2000, that's hardly the worlds most stable platform. The high-end Roland samplers suffer also. It's a fact of like that when you are pushing the envelope in the low-budget-R&D world of samplers you loose solidity, that happens with every brand." This is true, but I don't own Roland or Kurtzweil gear. What I'm saying is that until we, the users, start demanding better customer service, all we're going to get is status quo. And it starts here. I can accept unreliability to an extent (maybe I've been tempered by my Classic =), 'cause I understand that technology isn't _always_ an exact science (after all, I use a PC =), but I get really miffed when the company can't at least examine the errors (read: denial that they even exist), and insults their userbase. This I will not tolerate. In a market where competition is so tight, the one thing that sets a company apart from the rest is their rapport with their customers. "That said, Ensoniq do seem to be slow to fix obvious design flaws in their gear, however, the company (although it has a large-as-life market penetration) is actually a hand-full of people...30+ ?" This is true, but it seems that instead of working to their advantage (by allowing them to offer better services and support, and manuever faster than a large manufacturer like Roland or Yamaha), their small size hinders them. "One thing I wish Ensoniq would do is release the OS info so we can all start hacking the EPS/EPS16+ operating system. Unfortunately it's too closely related to the ASR10...I suppose we will have to wait until they completely re-write it from scratch for a new platform. If anyone has used a Mirage and Soundprocess OS, they will be salivating at the thought of what we could make an EPS16+ do. How about Bill letting us in on the secret of the FX chip at least?....I didn't think so." One big "mee-too"! The software OS was one of the major selling points, for me. But if they're not going to release it to the public, they might as well have gone the route of ROMs. I'm really not trying to start a flame war, or polarize the list, because all said, I really appreciate my sampler despite the system errors (isn't that what love's all about? *BARRRFFF!*) . I just want some damn respect from the company I paid $5K+ (I own two Classics) of my hard earned cash. Greg Whiner ;-) <--Steve Berkley =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Feb 10 07:02:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 07:02 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA29587; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:01:31 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D5A76DE@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:03:10 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Monthly posting of FAQ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:57:00 EST Message-Id: <2D5A76DE@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Usually, I just skip over this every month, but today, I decided to take a glance at it, and I notice a few opportunities for improvement (boy, I'm on a roll this week, aren't I?). Perhaps we can include references to Mike Chen's software (including the piece that converts TX-16W samples), with some real simple instructions on how to use them, maybe also the AIFF-to-EFE converter that I saw somewhere, and a description of SOX. Of course this is also ignoring the software written on other platforms, but since I don't really know about them... Anyway, I could try to write something, but it might be better to have the authors themselves do it (as I've been frequently accused of not having a clue =). Any other volenteers? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From aston.ac.uk!m.g.overton Thu Feb 10 07:03:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 128.86.8.45 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 07:02 PST Message-Id: Via: uk.ac.aston; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:45:28 +0000 Received: from fp82045.aston.ac.uk by email.aston.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <21975-0@email.aston.ac.uk>; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:43:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:45:17 +0000 To: eps@reed.edu (EPS) From: m.g.overton@aston.ac.uk (Matthew G Overton) X-Sender: overtomg@email.aston.ac.uk Subject: Re: TS10 and sample libraries Sender: m.g.overton@aston.ac.uk >I remember back in the heyday of the original EPS, a sales rep told me >that 3 out of 4 samplers sold in the US was an EPS. (This was a sales >rep talking... so take it with a grain of salt.) > >I'm sure the numbers aren't quite that good for Ensoniq anymore... but >still they may be thinking that by being compatible with all the >previous Ensoniqs, they have access to the largest sample library in >the world, and perhaps it's not worth the development costs to support >any other formats. By supporting somebody elses format you also send >a message that makes the competition look like a more credible >alternative. It still would be nice though... Hey, I'm in full rant mode now. Akai have 90% of the sampler market in the UK. They have a largely compatible library that can be ported from the S950 thru to the S1000 and S1100, to the S2800 [not sure about S3000 and S3200 tho']. Until a couple of months ago, in the UK you could book an appt at Akai HQ and armed with floppies or removables copy directly their 3gb library free of charge. Akai also support SDS. No wonder their industry-std in this country and it seems Roland with the S760, the K2000(R) and the EIII is also going to add further competition. If Ensoniq don't get their arses into gear, they will fail. They are not a large co. like Roalnd or Akai. They have not widely diversified like Yamaha. Ensoniq gear has got a bad reputation in the UK which means that they have to leap over one extra hurdle anyway. Compatibility is the answer. I LOVE my EPS-16 PLUS but I'd now think twice about buying an ASR-10 and my plans for an imminent purchase of a DP/4 have been put on hold until I assess their attitude. This I feel is sad! Matt From CompuServe.COM!72203.2303 Thu Feb 10 07:49:45 1994 Return-Path: <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> Received: from 198.4.9.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 07:48 PST Received: from localhost by dub-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.4/5.930129sam) id KAA20841; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 10:48:37 -0500 Date: 10 Feb 94 10:44:56 EST From: Garth Hjelte <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> To: INTERNET Mailing List Subject: Is Ensoniq for real? Message-ID: <940210154456_72203.2303_DHS41-1@CompuServe.COM> Here my two cents about Ensoniq (this is coming from someone who has ate, breathed, and slept EPS for the last five years, as owner of an EPS-exclusive sample/software company): FACT ONE: Since Ensoniq is so small, all the EPS/ASR's crash too much. It always has and does; it's always a factor with anything you do working with the machine. The sequencer is the main problem child - if you work with it consistantly, it's going to crash every day or at least every two days. FACT TWO: Since Ensoniq is small, you can talk directly to the people who designed the machine. That's great, and that's why I'm still into Ensoniq. It's a personable machine, my gosh, and it has personality. Have you ever noticed that perfect prople have no personality? It's FUN to have just enough to go wrong to have something to talk about, while having a musical keyboard which is on the leading edge of technology. The EPS/ASR does the job in a darn good way, and in a way that you can interface easily with and understand (i.e., not in Japanese). FACT THREE: Since Ensoniq is small, they don't have the resources to fix everything so it works perfectly and make a good profit (not just a profit) at the same time. That accounts for their attitude, I think. Wouldn't it get frustrating if you always had to say, day after day, "We're trying...", or "We're getting to it...". I say that to my wife all the time, and I'm frustrated saying it. [She's also frustrated, which accounts for our (the mailing list's) attitudes.] I think they could be a little more open about what they admit are difficulties with their keyboards are, because it would help the many of us who honestly don't know what they're doing. They're NEW to this whole thing, for heaven's sake. FACT FOUR: Since Ensoniq is so small, there will be people who give up on Ensoniq instruments and get a keyboard/sampler that doesn't crash as much and has it's operating software down pat. Those people will also start feeling lonely when they call Customer Service, when they can't find the Sample page ("it's third button over, 16 pages down after the Transmorgrifier page, etc. etc...."). Then the only thing they'll hear from their sampler is a busy signal. You'll also find out (after you've bought it) that your (other) sampler can't do what Ensoniq's do. Congratulations to Ensoniq! They're small, but they do listen. Thanks to the writers of the last couple of days - Thanks to Alan, who is so helpful with the SCSI spec, Scott Fisher, who hit the head with the hammer with his VOP-1 (very open platform 1), Terje, with his products and knowledge, and Thomas Conway, who said - "If Ensoniq haven't got the resources to fix the problems that we all know and hate, at least they might release the information so that someone else can...." Quote of the week. Garth Hjelte Rubber Chicken Software From CompuServe.COM!72203.2303 Thu Feb 10 07:49:46 1994 Return-Path: <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> Received: from 198.4.9.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 07:48 PST Received: from localhost by dub-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.4/5.930129sam) id KAA20846; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 10:48:38 -0500 Date: 10 Feb 94 10:45:11 EST From: Garth Hjelte <72203.2303@CompuServe.COM> To: INTERNET Mailing List Subject: PS Systems stuff Message-ID: <940210154510_72203.2303_DHS41-4@CompuServe.COM> Tim Davis wrote: Received: from 146.229.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 08:34 PST Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:28:43 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25226; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:27:34 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9402101627.AA25226@ebs330> Subject: Stereo fade To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 10:27:33 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 473 Ack.. i meant stereo pan. Is there a way to modulate the pan of a sample with the LFO? Or maybe have to samples, one hard left, one hard right and modulate their volume by LFO with one being 180 degrees out of phase? I am not aware of such an option. Anyone? -- Arne F. Claassen |"In cows we trust | EPS Classic * D4 | E pluribus Moo" | Juno 106 | MTV for eMpty minds | Mac Centris 650 From UH.EDU!Robinson Thu Feb 10 08:48:50 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 08:47 PST Received: by Menudo.UH.EDU id AA03957 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 10 Feb 1994 10:47:35 -0600 From: "Edward M. Robinson" Message-Id: <199402101647.AA03957@Menudo.UH.EDU> Subject: Re: Ensoniq. To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 10:47:33 -0600 (CST) Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9402100541.AA20316@psy.uwa.edu.au> from "Scott Fisher" at Feb 10, 94 01:41:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2222 Scott Fisher wrote : > >I believe Ensoniq needs to (in it's next step) make a truely "open" >platform, where they make the hardware and the initial software, but >allow users also to write their own software for the machine...similar >to the PC industry. Ensoniq has the oppertunity to set the "standards" >here...however what should power it? Intel or Risc based chips???? :-) I agree. I remember the kick I got out of loading and using 'Soundprocess' for the Mirage. It gave me a whole new machine. And, it was on disk! I could switch back and forth between multi-voice synthesizer and longer samples. No ROMs to plug/unplug. And, if there were an open hardware spec, that could get very interesting (imagine if you were stuck with Hercules or CGA graphics on your PC, or a "thin" Mac) >If ensoniq made the VOP-1 (very open platform 1) complete with modular >design for adding HD, Memory, Voices etc etc (similar to the slots in PCs) >I believe they would again take the lead. At the moment they appear to >have become overdiversified. They should get back to a position of >manufacturing say 1 keyboard (that can be featured up or down to match >varying price points) and 1 FX unit that can be modified similarly. Hmmm... having experienced a socket and slot based piece of sound gear on the road, I certainly hope the state of the art has improved. The things kept working their way out of the slots and I was always having to open the case a reseat them. Not Pleasant. Also, isn't this the direction of the PC/soundboard combo's. If you put together enough pieces you should have a very open flexible, architecture without having to wait for Ensoniq to design a special case? I've heard several times that Ensoniq chips are showing up on sound cards (the Gravis UltraSound comes to mind), does anyone know which these are? I've seen a lot of books on the SoundBlaster, I just wish I could find the same on the EPS (yeah .... right). However, if someone could create a migration path from EPS sample file's to these PC boards, it might provide alternatives to the (not so) patient waiters of Ensoniq support. Might even free up the Ensoniq team to develop even better chips. -- Ed Robinson Robinson@uh.edu From netcom.com!alyon Thu Feb 10 08:48:55 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 192.100.81.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 08:47 PST Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA15114; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 08:48:35 -0800 From: alyon@netcom.com (Aaron Lyon) Message-Id: <199402101648.IAA15114@mail.netcom.com> Subject: EPS Crashes To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 08:48:35 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 914 The best solution I've found for my crashing EPS is to open the lid and press down all the ICs sitting in sockets (while the EPS is off, of course). This usually stops crashes for months. This really reminds me of my first computer: Radio Schlock TRS-80 Model I, with expansion unit. Total RAM = 64K! I used to have to press down on the RS-232 board every time I started the computer so I could use the modem! Ooh, high tech! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ||||||||||| | Stravinsky's _Rite of Spring_ is my ongoing project. ( Aaron Lyon ) | <---> 0 + 0 | alyon@netcom.com ._____. | San Francisco, CA, USA, Earth, &c. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Vampires are lucky--they can feed on others. We gotta eat away at ourselves." - Bad Lieutenent From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Feb 10 09:35:17 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:33 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA29769; Thu, 10 Feb 94 12:32:51 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D5A9A56@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 12:34:30 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Stereo fade Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 12:27:00 EST Message-Id: <2D5A9A56@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 35 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Try modulating the AMP with LFO. Assumptions: You have a 1 layer instrument with one wavesample in layer 1. 1. Copy layer 1, paramaters only, to layer 2. 2. Pan lyr 1 ws 1 hard left, lyr 2 ws 2 hard right. (On [EDIT AMP] page) 3. In the same [EDIT AMP] area, set the A B | C D ratio for lyr 1 ws 1 to A=0 B=0 C=0 D=127, and lyr 2 ws 2 to A=0 B=127 C=127 D=127. 4. Set both WS AMP modulate to LFO, AMOUNT=99. 5. Go to pitch page, turn LFO AMT to 0.0 6. Go to [EDIT LFO] page, turn RESET ON, 7. Turn LFO Modulate to Keyboard (KBD). 8. Adjust LFO speed for rate of Pan. This _should_ work, though I could be forgetting something. Another way to do it, is to set it up so that the pan is on the Mod Wheel. To do this, do everything the same, except set AMP MODULATE to WHEEL, instead of LFO. Be sure to turn off LFO modulating Pitch (Step 5), or you'll hear vibrato when you move the mod wheel up. Finally, disregard editing anything on the [EDIT LFO] page (step 6, 7, and 8). It works by fading in Ws 1 when the mod wheel is down, and fading in WS 2 when it's up. Sort of a pseudo pan, but you're really doing a cross fade between the two WS. I've found this much more useful (and fun) than panning with the LFO. Good luck! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Thu Feb 10 09:41:13 1994 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:40 PST Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <293164>; Thu, 10 Feb 1994 12:39:33 -0500 Received: from terra.cse.psu.edu by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06558; Thu, 10 Feb 94 12:39:10 EST From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9402101739.AA06558@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: Is Ensoniq for real? To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 12:34:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <940210154456_72203.2303_DHS41-1@CompuServe.COM>; from "Garth Hjelte" at Feb 10, 94 10:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Garth Hjelte wrote: | |Here my two cents about Ensoniq (this is coming from someone who has ate, |breathed, and slept EPS for the last five years, as owner of an |EPS-exclusive sample/software company): | [interim stuff deleted] | |FACT FOUR: Since Ensoniq is so small, there will be people who give up on |Ensoniq instruments and get a keyboard/sampler that doesn't crash as much |and has it's operating software down pat. Those people will also start |feeling lonely when they call Customer Service, when they can't find the |Sample page ("it's third button over, 16 pages down after the |Transmorgrifier page, etc. etc...."). Then the only thing they'll hear from |their sampler is a busy signal. You'll also find out (after you've bought |it) that your (other) sampler can't do what Ensoniq's do. Congratulations |to Ensoniq! They're small, but they do listen. Yeah. And the gear they put out may not be perfect, but it's the best bang for the buck around. Usually, after a few tips, tweaks and utilities... |Thanks to the writers of the last couple of days - Thanks to Alan, who is |so helpful with the SCSI spec, Scott Fisher, who hit the head with the |hammer with his VOP-1 (very open platform 1), Terje, with his products and |knowledge, and Thomas Conway, who said - | |"If Ensoniq haven't got the resources to fix the problems that we all know |and hate, at least they might release the information so that someone else |can...." Would be nice, wouldn't it? But it might give out enough details for people to (gasp) mount Ensoniq-formatted devices, SCSI or floppy! Wouldn't that be something, to take your Ensoniq VOP-1, borrow the drive from a friend's Akai, connect the Akai's SCSI drive to the VOP-1, and just start loading Akai samples? Better than floppy copy... It seems to me that it would be really neat for Ensoniq or someone to put together a system like so... take a 486SLC-66 motherboard. Put in a card with the oscillator chip (a la GUS), but put in filters, hardware envelopes, and the like. Make it so you can plug in more cards for more voices. Then, plug in the FX chip's card... who knows what you can do with this? Make it so it can use either a SCSI card (why not use a PC SCSI card instead of reinventing the wheel) or IDE drives, which are cheaper. I think you can see where this is going... And don't forget the keyboard, both the computer one and the ivories... But seriously. Super VGA cards are cheap, and a keyboard user doesn't really need color... give me ANYTHING but the LED display on the EPS Classic, which now is antiquated. And don't misconstrue what I said above as opposition to the VOP-1. I just like the idea of having something like the Session 8 box hooked up to my VOP-1, and using a graphics display for editing, sequencing and the like. If it was basically a warped PC platform, it'd probably be easier to develop. My $0.01 (two cents worth, sale for half-price). -- Mike From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Feb 10 09:46:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 09:45 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA29794; Thu, 10 Feb 94 12:43:56 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2D5A9CF0@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 10 Feb 94 12:45:36 EST From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Ensoniq. Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 12:39:00 EST Message-Id: <2D5A9CF0@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 39 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 "Hmmm... having experienced a socket and slot based piece of sound gear on the road, I certainly hope the state of the art has improved. The things kept working their way out of the slots and I was always having to open the case a reseat them. Not Pleasant." Rumor mill sez Korg is working on something kinda like this for their next major piece...We'll see, I guess (kool, I'll take 2 wavestation modules, and a DW8000 retro-fit module =) "Also, isn't this the direction of the PC/soundboard combo's. If you put together enough pieces you should have a very open flexible, architecture without having to wait for Ensoniq to design a special case? I've heard several times that Ensoniq chips are showing up on sound cards (the Gravis UltraSound comes to mind), does anyone know which these are? I've seen a lot of books on the SoundBlaster, I just wish I could find the same on the EPS (yeah .... right)." That's not a bad idea. I've been sort of holding off on buying any PC Sound cards, since they all still sort of seem like novelty items. I haven't seen anything that's shooting for the pro market yet except for the Session 8 system, and even that's not really a synth. I think the Mac platform is much more gifted in this area =(. What would be cool is a computer standard (yeah right) so that you could have one MIDI card in your system, and the sound cards would receive timing/note data and patch/sample data through the PC's bus, and so all cards would be able to communicate with each other in a uniform way. Sort of what MIDI did, but through the bus of the PC...and much faster. Then, we can start to extend that bus protocol to external units too (like SCSI! Yea, that's it!) Then make MIDI OBSOLETE!!!! THEN WE TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!! YESSS!!! oh---uh sorry. I digress. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From UH.EDU!Robinson Thu Feb 10 10:11:33 1994 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Feb 94 10:10 PST Received: by Menudo.UH.EDU id AA12215 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 10 Feb 1994 12:10:21 -0600 From: "Edward M. Robinson" Message-Id: <199402101810.AA12215@Menudo.UH.EDU> Subject: Re: Ensoniq. To: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 12:10:20 -0600 (CST) Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9402101747.AA06571@sol4.cse.psu.edu> from "Michael Chen" at Feb 10, 94 12:42:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1100 Michael Chen wrote : ... >I figure what they should really do is make an EPS-on-a-card (GUS w/filters >and its own I/O abilities?) and plug it in to a 486 running Cakewalk or >Cubase. If they could set that up right, and package that with some of >the other cards like the Soundtrax by Kalix that uses the Ensoniq chipset, >they'd have a formidable music-making machine. Is _ANYBODY_ at Ensoniq listening? Care to comment? Others? I *know* I would buy it when I could, especially if it would interact directly with my EPS library in some way (for example, one of Terje or Michael's programs would be a good start). >If Ensoniq made an ASR-on-a-card to plug in to a PC, I'd buy it even if I >had to go into hock... A heartfelt ditto here. One caveat, they should make the spec for such a card as easy to get as any of the "Soundblaster" or "ProAudio" books, or even commission one of our experts to write it. That way we would get lots of nifty utilities written as well as enticing more people to join the group. Oh well, back to the *REAL* world -- bleah! :p -- Ed Robinson Robinson@uh.edu From xerox.com!Brian_T_Ormond.Wbst128 Thu Feb 10 10:22: