From ads.com!pdel Wed Sep 29 09:22:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 29 Sep 93 09:21 PDT Received: from bert.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA05971; Wed, 29 Sep 93 09:25:37 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by bert.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA00849; Wed, 29 Sep 93 09:25:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 09:25:37 -0700 Message-Id: <9309291625.AA00849@bert.ads.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Flashbank >The following stores said they had original Ensoniq 1 meg cards in >stock: > Sam Ash 800-4-SAM-ASH $400 > Thoroughbred 800-800-4654 $600+ > E.U. Wurlitzer 800-886-KEYS $575 > >Anyway, as $400+ is too much for me to spend for 1 meg, I've given up $400 is too much, but I can't believe the price the other two want also! Can't you get a used EPS for that much? From acs.bu.edu!jna Wed Sep 29 10:16:39 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.197.152.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 29 Sep 93 10:16 PDT Received: from ACS2.BU.EDU by acs.bu.edu (5.61+++/AIX-3.2) id AA109633; Wed, 29 Sep 93 13:14:47 -0400 From: jna@acs.bu.edu (John Adams) Received: by acs2.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA29863; Wed, 29 Sep 93 13:14:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 13:14:53 -0400 Message-Id: <9309291714.AA29863@acs2.bu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, pdel@ads.com Subject: Re: Flashbank For $400 for an extra meg you could sell your EPS all together and buy an eps-16... -john From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Fri Oct 1 08:57:07 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 08:55 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA01515; Fri, 1 Oct 93 11:54:11 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2CAC7D0F@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Fri, 01 Oct 93 11:55:11 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: ASR-10 MIDI Glitch? Date: Fri, 01 Oct 93 12:15:00 EDT Message-Id: <2CAC7D0F@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 8 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Has anyone heard of a glitch in the ASR-10 that will prevent the keyboard from transmitting on MIDI channels 2 and 3 when set to "TRANSMIT ON INST. CHANNEL"? Any info would be welcome! BTW, I DID verify that the inst. were set to the proper channel, and that the 'board is in "TRANS ON INST." mode. Thx! Gregory From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Fri Oct 1 09:22:20 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:21 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA01557; Fri, 1 Oct 93 12:20:02 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2CAC831E@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Fri, 01 Oct 93 12:21:02 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: DUH! Was: ASR-10 MIDI Glitch Date: Fri, 01 Oct 93 12:39:00 EDT Message-Id: <2CAC831E@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 3 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I forgot to check the "SEND TO: LOCAL, MIDI, BOTH" thing. Sorry to bug everyone! That's what I get for not getting enough sleep last night =) From FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU!Todd_Kaufmann Fri Oct 1 12:33:06 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.110.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 12:32 PDT Received: from FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU by FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU id aa27196; 1 Oct 93 15:32:30 EDT To: EPS List Reply-to: toad@cs.cmu.edu Subject: ASR-10 OS v2.0 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 93 15:32:29 -0400 Message-ID: <27194.749503949@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Todd_Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU re the new OS upgrade, which allows digital audio track recording- Here's what I found out two weeks ago from my local dealer, who had just talked to the Ensoniq rep: The new OS update is a software only upgrade, available free of charge. It requires a scsi option (whether you have a hard drive or not) to work. It is supposed to be available in 6-8 weeks. That was two weeks ago, so now we're talking sometime in the next 4-6 weeks (if they don't push it back). Apparently it is now in beta-test. Any testers out there? Anyone heard more, or otherwise? -todd From cscns.com!scotti Fri Oct 1 13:02:05 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.156.196.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 13:01 PDT Received: by cns.cscns.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05128; Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:03:08 MDT From: scotti@cscns.com (Stewart Scott) Message-Id: <9310012003.AA05128@cns.cscns.com> Subject: Yamaha QY10 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:03:07 MDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] I've been trying to transfer a song from a QY10 to my ASR10 and it seems to lockup when the song stops. It gives an overflow error then locks up to where I much reboot. Anybody else have this problem? -- Stewart Scott scotti@cscns.com From cactus.org!majec Fri Oct 1 14:30:11 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.207.27.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:29 PDT Received: by cactus.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14052; Fri, 1 Oct 93 16:29:44 CDT From: majec@cactus.org (Majec Systems) Message-Id: <9310012129.AA14052@cactus.org> Subject: defragging disks To: eps@REED.EDU (eps) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:29:42 -0500 (CDT) Cc: majec@peyote.cactus.org (majec) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 151 I have a syquest type external drive and i want to defragg my removeable media. any ideas. The machine is a 16+. Thanks Ed Guinn majec@cactus.org From eecs.uic.edu!das Fri Oct 1 14:41:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.248.166.25 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:41 PDT Received: by bert.eecs.uic.edu id AA13583 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for eps@REED.EDU); Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:41:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:39:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Sumit Das Subject: Re: defragging disks To: Majec Systems Cc: eps , majec In-Reply-To: <9310012129.AA14052@cactus.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Oct 1993, Majec Systems wrote: > I have a syquest type external drive and i want to defragg my > removeable media. any ideas. The machine is a 16+. The new version of the EPS OS features, among other things, a backup command that WILL defragment your disk! Call Ensoniq, they will mail you an update ( I got mine within a week). -smeet From UKCC.UKY.EDU!UKCC.UKY.EDU!DANEWT00 Fri Oct 1 14:51:06 1993 Return-Path: <@UKCC.UKY.EDU:DANEWT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU> Received: from 128.163.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:50 PDT Message-Id: Received: from UKCC.UKY.EDU by UKCC.uky.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8399; Fri, 01 Oct 93 17:49:45 EDT Received: from ukcc.uky.edu (NJE origin DANEWT00@UKCC) by UKCC.UKY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3981; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 17:49:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 93 17:33:10 EDT From: "Dwight A. Newton" Subject: How many voices? To: eps@reed.edu I just had a new motherboard installed in my EPS 16+ after having the old one die from an electrical surge. Before the crash, it was exhibiting some problems which are still there after the repair. 1. I seem to be limited to five polyphonic voices a one time, i.e., if I load a piano sample and hold the sustain pedal down while playing a run of notes, it will only allow the most recent 5 notes to exist. I thought I should be getting at least six and probably eight voice polyphony. Am I right? What would cause this? 2. When I've loaded a bank of samples, it tends to default to the number 1 instrument. E.g., instrument 1 is an organ, 2 is empty, three is a piano, 4 is a gamelan, etc. When I select 3, the no.1 and 3 lights come on and it gives me the organ. If I double-click 3, I get 3, but it flashes and couples with 1, which I can then deselect to get the piano alone. I've tried different OS diskswith the same result. Are these hardware or software problems? Help!! From uafhp.uark.edu!pstaffor Fri Oct 1 16:18:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.184.7.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 16:18 PDT Received: by uafhp.uark.edu (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA16001; Fri, 1 Oct 93 18:16:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 18:12:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Stafford Subject: Noisy SCSI To: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <2CAC7D0F@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an 82M APS HD on my EPS as well as having it hooked into my computers' SCSI as another device so I can send samples via SCSI instead of MIDI. Every so often I get drive noise through the outputs of my EPS (classic) until I press down on the cover of the HD. I am running the power to my EPS through the switched outlet on the HD if that makes any difference. Also this happens independently of the computer (on or off). Any suggs. would be appreciated. Thanks, Phillip From sounds.wa.com!brianw Sat Oct 2 15:33:40 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 2 Oct 93 15:33 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA20375 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Sat, 2 Oct 1993 15:33:18 -0700 Received: by sounds (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA02351; Sat, 2 Oct 93 15:14:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 93 15:14:00 -0700 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9310022214.AA02351@sounds> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: Phillip Stafford Subject: Re: Noisy SCSI Cc: eps@reed.edu Reply-To: Brian Willoughby | I have an 82M APS HD on my EPS as well as having it hooked into | my computers' SCSI as another device so I can send samples via | SCSI instead of MIDI. Every so often I get drive noise through | the outputs of my EPS (classic) until I press down on the cover | of the HD. I am running the power to my EPS through the switched | outlet on the HD if that makes any difference. Also this happens | independently of the computer (on or off). The bad news is that your APS case is the culprit. Their quality is very low when considered from the point of view of a digital musician who wants to use a hard disk along with audio equipment. I imagine that the usual Macintosh owner doesn't care, though. Your hard itself is probably ok, but you'll have to put it in another case, or trade the whole thing in for a drive from someone other than APS. I purchased a case locally and found it to be of high quality (but only after returning one with a noisy fan - the reseller was very understanding about my needs as a musician, since I explained my requirements in advance). I know this because I have used two or three different hard drives with my EPS. I borrowed a friend's drive while he borrowed mine (so I could install the SCSI card), and my home studio was never no noisy! His drive is a Quantum, and it performed nicely in another case - but the APS case is worthless for use with audio gear. Hopefully you're still within APS's 90-day money-back period, so you can unload the drive for something which isn't below standards. P.S. In an EPS + drive + computer setup, you're probably going to get some noise because of ground loops, but I have found the levels to be low enough to ignore - except with the APS case. It doesn't matter if you turn the computer off, the ground loop still exists through the electrical connections in the SCSI cables. If I plugged everything in to the same outlet, in the right order, I would probably have less trouble with ground loops, but as I said: it's low enough with a good quality case that you can ignore it. Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA From egr.msu.edu!reed Sat Oct 2 21:07:04 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 35.8.8.61 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 2 Oct 93 21:06 PDT Received: from frith.egr.msu.edu by egr.msu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA19437; Sun, 3 Oct 93 00:06:06 -0400 Received: by frith.egr.msu.edu (5.61/SMI-4.0) id AA25926; Sun, 3 Oct 93 00:06:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 00:06:04 -0400 From: reed@egr.msu.edu Message-Id: <9310030406.AA25926@frith.egr.msu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Song size growing out of control!!!! This was bizarre... Here's what happened... I was creating this song for about a month now, and I'm sending it back and forth through the mail... the size was about 70 blocks... after a couple of days of making changes and everything, all of a sudden the song/seq wouldn't load... I would get "command aborted" error... luckily I had a back up on a floppy and it successfully loaded... Then when I checked the size of this thing, it had grown to over 500 blocks!!! What the hell? It was then like any minor change I would make added about 60 blocks to the size of the song/seq! Anyway, I was very lucky the sequence even loaded from the floppy, so what I did was then save each sequence individually, rebooted the board, created a new song/seq and loaded each sequence individually... Then saved the new song/seq... The size of the new song/seq was a more appropriate 80 blocks vs 500+... Does anyone know what may have caused this? Has it happened to anyone else? Any suggestions on how to prevent this from happening again? Thanks for the help! From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!jromig Sun Oct 3 06:55:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 3 Oct 93 06:55 PDT Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/921215) on Sun, 3 Oct 93 08:55:09 -0500 id AA00219 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/930730) on Sun, 3 Oct 93 08:54:35 -0500 id AA07463 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 08:53:01 -0500 (CDT) From: James Romig Subject: To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I once had a song file that took about 16 blocks. After a while, and for reasons I still cannot explain, the file jumped to over 500 blocks. Fortunately, I was not strapped for memory and I just left it as is (still have it). I don't know what caused it, but you're not alone. From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Sun Oct 3 12:18:08 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 3 Oct 93 12:17 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA25022 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Sun, 3 Oct 1993 15:17:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 15:14:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Cubase to EPS To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, here's my problem. I want to take sequences from Cubase and record them into the EPS sequencer. I've tried everything I could think of but haven't been able to get this to work. I have no problem the other way around(Sending EPS sequences to Cubase). Any help in this would be greatly appreciated. Joe -<><><><><><><><><)-]187-Phat_Beats_For_Phat_Cities-(><><><><><><><><><><><>- | Sub.bass.Frequency.Percolator || ---------------------------------- From cornell.edu!rjl5 Sun Oct 3 17:30:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.236.56.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 3 Oct 93 17:29 PDT Received: from [132.236.102.15] (CU-DIALUP-0001.CIT.CORNELL.EDU) by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu with SMTP id AA07145 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 3 Oct 1993 20:29:29 -0400 X-Nupop-Charset: English Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 20:20:06 EDT From: "Rob Levine" Sender: rjl5@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu Reply-To: rjl5@cornell.edu Message-Id: <73218.rjl5@cornell.edu> To: das@eecs.uic.edu, eps@REED.EDU Subject: Re: defragging disks In Message Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:39:24 -0500 (CDT), Sumit Das writes: > >> I have a syquest type external drive and i want to defragg my >> removeable media. any ideas. The machine is a 16+. > >The new version of the EPS OS features, among other things, a backup >command that WILL defragment your disk! Call Ensoniq, they will mail you >an update ( I got mine within a week). > Are you talking about OS 1.3? I wasn't aware it could defrag a disk. I thought you had to backup everything on the hard disk, reformat and then restore to 'defrag' it. Rob Levine From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Mon Oct 4 06:04:37 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 06:04 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA04630; Mon, 4 Oct 93 09:02:40 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2CB04965@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Mon, 04 Oct 93 09:03:49 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Song size growing out of control!!!! Date: Mon, 04 Oct 93 09:23:00 EDT Message-Id: <2CB04965@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 52 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 "... Then when I checked the size of this thing, it had grown to over 500 blocks!!! What the hell? It was then like any minor change I would make added about 60 blocks to the size of the song/seq! Anyway, I was very lucky the sequence even loaded from the floppy, so what I did was then save each sequence individually, rebooted the board, created a new song/seq and loaded each sequence individually... Then saved the new song/seq... The size of the new song/seq was a more appropriate 80 blocks vs 500+... Does anyone know what may have caused this? Has it happened to anyone else? Any suggestions on how to prevent this from happening again?" This used to happen to me all the time before I got the latest O.S. upgrade for my Classic (V2.49). There is no real way to prevent this if you have a lower version of the OS. It generally happens when you execute a command on the sequence data, like "append" or "add/delete bars". I used your same workaround when it used to be a problem for me. I also would record the song tracks last since you would inevitably need to delete them if the sequence needed to be "fixed". I'm not sure what type of EPS and O.S. you're using, but I _do_ know this used to be a big problem with the older OS versions on the Classic. I have had this happen to me _once_ w/ OS 2.49, but I have been unable to duplicate the error. On another note, I have a good one for "weird unknown bugs": With an older OS version, I would occasionally get sequences that would be out of synch with the metronome, and would get progressivly worse as the sequence cycled through it's loop. For example, if I recorded a 4/4 kick pattern, the track would apparently shift forward a few clocks each time it cycled through the loop. Metronome click: | | | | | | | | Drum pass 1: o o o o o o o o Metronome click: | | | | | | | | Drum pass 2: o o o o o o o o Metronome click: | | | | | | | | Drum pass 3: o o o o o o o o Even Ensoniq didn't believe that this could happen! They DID, however, fix it in later O.S. versions. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From ACAD.DRAKE.EDU!AAR001 Mon Oct 4 07:13:46 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.84.11.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 07:13 PDT Received: from ACAD.DRAKE.EDU by ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #2922) id <01H3PJIQN8FK001OIN@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 09:11:29 CDT Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1993 09:07:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "SIR FIREFROST (ANDREW RUSSELL)" Subject: Fixed Classic. To: EPS@REED.EDU Cc: "SIR FIREFROST (ANDREW RUSSELL)" Message-id: <01H3PJJJK3IA001OIN@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT My EPS Classic is now working quite well, and I thought that I'd pass on the advice. If your EPS crashes frequently, Stop using a fan to cool it! I just upgraded to rom V2.2 and OS 2.49 (You get both for $29.95 US) and it still didn't help. Then my dealer asked if I was using a fan to cool it. It turns out, that the fan blew more heat off of the HeatSink and back into the Keyboard than it dispursed into the air. Hope that his may help someone.... Good Luck! Andy Russell P.S. I passed the 15 minute mark and got 12 hours of use out of it last night!!! From dsinc.dsi.com!lock60!ensoniq!Ensoniq.COM!bill Mon Oct 4 07:45:06 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.65.202.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 07:44 PDT Received: from lock60 by dsinc.dsi.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0ojr71-0009URC; Mon, 4 Oct 93 10:42 EDT Received: by lock60.Canal.Org (smail2.5) id AA15857; 4 Oct 93 10:41:27 EDT (Mon) Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA19078; Mon, 4 Oct 93 10:37:00 EDT Message-Id: <9310041437.AA19078@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NX5.67c/mls/3.5) id AA03041; Mon, 4 Oct 93 10:29:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 93 10:29:10 -0400 From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: Stephen.W.Berkley@Dartmouth.EDU (Stephen W. Berkley) Subject: Re: Hidden Loop Mode: The Traveler Cc: eps@reed.edu * Steve Berkley writes: Bill- Here's a quick suggestion, it sure would be useful for my work composing on the ASR.... I've been making very tiny loops in a sample and then assigning those loop positions to a controller (i.e. mod wheel). This yields some very exciting sonic results, and in a sense, gives you dynamic time-warping ability. It is analagous to some ideas surfacing in time compression/expansion using wavelet methods (see Robert Bristow Johnson's talk at AES). The problem is, for my simple methods, the clicking that occurs on moving between "windows" with the controller. For now I drown it out with lots of verb. My suggestion is this: some sort of windowing function (Hamming, Rectangular, whatever) on the loop. This would kill the clicks. What do you think? Is this feasible? -Steve *-------------- end quoted material ------------------------------- Dear Steve, I implemented a time-warp feature in the ASR but never let it out to the public. It's actually in there, though; to access it, you have to make the "loop mod type" parameter go 1 or 2 ticks beyond it's official limits. In both these modes the ASR grabs two oscillators and continually crossfades between them at a rate of about 25 Hz. In the first case you have loop mod without clicks; in the second mode the effect is a time-compression or expansion. The two hidden loop modulation modes are: 1) Allow a controller to directly control loop position; 2) Continually progress through the sound at a constant rate; allow a controller to change the rate. I called this the Traveler. In Traveler mode the "loop mod range" parameter (which is usually a table type with about 12 values) is used as the "evolution speed." Unfortunately the front panel does not give you access to a useful range of values. In any case you probably need a computer to set the parameters in the wavesample parameter block to their "illegal" values. Bill From eecs.uic.edu!das Mon Oct 4 08:40:15 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.248.166.25 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 08:40 PDT Received: by bert.eecs.uic.edu id AA10542 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for eps@REED.EDU); Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:39:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:37:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Sumit Das Subject: Re: defragging disks To: Rob Levine Cc: eps@REED.EDU In-Reply-To: <73218.rjl5@cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 3 Oct 1993, Rob Levine wrote: > Are you talking about OS 1.3? I wasn't aware it could defrag a disk. > I thought you had to backup everything on the hard disk, reformat > and then restore to 'defrag' it. Oops. Maybe you're right. I hadn't tried it. I thought that when you backed up, it did a file-by-file copy, so all you had to do was the backup command, and the new copy would be a defragged version of the original disk. Is that incorrect? -smeet From MIT.EDU!jeffy Mon Oct 4 08:52:44 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 18.72.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 08:52 PDT Received: from MARINARA.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA04131; Mon, 4 Oct 93 11:52:13 EDT From: jeffy@MIT.EDU Received: by marinara (5.57/4.7) id AA25088; Mon, 4 Oct 93 11:52:11 -0400 Message-Id: <9310041552.AA25088@marinara> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 04 Oct 93 11:52:11 EDT subscribe From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!jromig Mon Oct 4 13:07:04 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 13:06 PDT Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/921215) on Mon, 4 Oct 93 15:05:57 -0500 id AA11595 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/930730) on Mon, 4 Oct 93 15:05:18 -0500 id AA15136 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 15:04:03 -0500 (CDT) From: James Romig Subject: EPS 16+ O.S. To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the most recent EPS 16+ operating system? Thank you kindly. From uahis1.uah.edu!ebs330!claassen Mon Oct 4 13:43:19 1993 Return-Path: <@uahis1.uah.edu:claassen@ebs330> Received: from 146.229.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 13:43 PDT Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 15:35:59 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28570; Mon, 4 Oct 93 15:30:37 CDT From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9310042030.AA28570@ebs330> Subject: Reversing a sample... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 15:30:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 874 Ok, you can play a sample backwards, but not loop it. Is there a simple function for reversing samples somewhere in the EPS? I looked through the WAVESAMPLE command menu but didn't see anything. I'm using OS2.49 on a Classic. Any thoughts? PS: Of course i can move it to my mac reverse it and bring it back, but since i do not have a good sample editor on the mac this experience is long and always frustrates me, becuase i don't have a good sample editor. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Arne F. Claassen | | | | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | | finger for PGP public key | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . From uafhp.uark.edu!pstaffor Mon Oct 4 14:07:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.184.7.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 14:06 PDT Received: by uafhp.uark.edu (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA14977; Mon, 4 Oct 93 16:05:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:04:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Stafford Subject: Re: EPS 16+ O.S. To: James Romig Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > What is the most recent EPS 16+ operating system? > > Thank you kindly. > What is the most recent EPS classic OS.? Thanks, Phillip From eecs.uic.edu!das Mon Oct 4 14:18:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.248.166.25 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 14:17 PDT Received: by bert.eecs.uic.edu id AA21973 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:17:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 16:13:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Sumit Das Subject: Bank loading To: EPS info net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having trouble with banks. Here is the history of the problem: I had an older OS (1.1 I think), and a removable disk full of instruments. I updated the OS on the disk to 1.3, by using the "write OS to disk" function. The manual says it won't work if there are instruments on the disk, but it did. Did I do a no-no? Now, when I save a bank, it won't load properly (hangs or looks like it is loaading, but then all the instruments have the name of the last one loaded in). What is going on? Has anyone else had the same experience? -smeet From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Mon Oct 4 15:21:00 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 15:20 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA20713 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Mon, 4 Oct 1993 18:18:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 18:17:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Reversing a sample... To: Arne Claassen Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9310042030.AA28570@ebs330> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -<><><><><><><><><)-]187-Phat_Beats_For_Phat_Cities-(><><><><><><><><><><><>- | Sub.bass.Frequency.Percolator || ---------------------------------- On Mon, 4 Oct 1993, Arne Claassen wrote: > Ok, you can play a sample backwards, but not loop it. Is there a simple function > for reversing samples somewhere in the EPS? I looked through the WAVESAMPLE > command menu but didn't see anything. I'm using OS2.49 on a Classic. > Any thoughts? Sure, go to either EDIT/LFO or Command/LFO and you will find a Reverse Data function. Joe From media.sra.com!echen Mon Oct 4 15:35:32 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 136.161.128.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 15:35 PDT Received: from port23.reston.va.pub-ip.psi.net by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.1.031792-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA17234 for eps@reed.edu; Mon, 4 Oct 93 18:35:12 -0400 Received: from media.sra.com (woody.ARPA) by snoopy.sra.com (4.1/3.1.090691-SRA-CORP-problems to macorwi@sra.com) id AA01570; Mon, 4 Oct 93 18:29:50 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Oct 93 18:34:02 EDT From: echen@media.sra.com (Eugene Chen) Received: from sam.sra.com (sam.ARPA) by media.sra.com (4.1/3.2.083191-PNI-SRA-Corp. problems to obrien@media.sra.com) id AA24227; Mon, 4 Oct 93 18:34:02 EDT Message-Id: <9310042234.AA24227@media.sra.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe From sannsm.sandiegoca.NCR.COM!borisb Mon Oct 4 16:23:14 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 16:22 PDT Received: from 192.127.251.3 by vishnu.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 16:22 PDT Received: from ncrcom by ncrhub1.NCR.COM id ad25390; 4 Oct 93 19:11 EDT Received: from ncr-sd by ncrcom.DaytonOH.NCR.COM id aa25044; 4 Oct 93 19:06 EDT Received: by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM; 4 Oct 93 14:44:22 PDT Received: by lcpd-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM; 4 Oct 93 16:19:08 PDT Received: by sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com with Microsoft Mail id <2CB0ACF7@sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com>; Mon, 04 Oct 93 16:08:39 PDT From: "Burtin, Boris" To: 'eps' Date: Mon, 04 Oct 93 16:06:00 PDT Message-ID: <2CB0ACF7@sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com> Encoding: 31 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I haven't actually done this, but I heard that it works. If you play the sample backwards and then do a "resample with effect" it should effectively reverse your sample. Boris ---------- From: claassen To: eps Subject: Reversing a sample... Date: Monday, October 04, 1993 3:30PM Ok, you can play a sample backwards, but not loop it. Is there a simple function for reversing samples somewhere in the EPS? I looked through the WAVESAMPLE command menu but didn't see anything. I'm using OS2.49 on a Classic. Any thoughts? PS: Of course i can move it to my mac reverse it and bring it back, but since i do not have a good sample editor on the mac this experience is long and always frustrates me, becuase i don't have a good sample editor. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Arne F. Claassen | | | | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | | finger for PGP public key | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Mon Oct 4 18:12:08 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 18:10 PDT Received: from 192.231.221.1 by vishnu.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 18:10 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA23525 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for 'eps' ); Mon, 4 Oct 1993 21:10:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 21:08:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: your mail To: "Burtin, Boris" Cc: 'eps' In-Reply-To: <2CB0ACF7@sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Oct 1993, Burtin, Boris wrote: > > I haven't actually done this, but I heard that it works. If you play the > sample backwards and then do a "resample with effect" it should effectively > reverse your sample. > > Boris I don't think you can do that on a Classic. I have a classic with OS 2.49 and ROM OS 2.0 I am pretty sure you cannot resample. The best thing for him to do is simply reverse the sample from the LFO menu. > From: claassen > To: eps > Subject: Reversing a sample... > Date: Monday, October 04, 1993 3:30PM > > Ok, you can play a sample backwards, but not loop it. Is there a simple > function > for reversing samples somewhere in the EPS? I looked through the WAVESAMPLE > command menu but didn't see anything. I'm using OS2.49 on a Classic. > Any thoughts? > > PS: Of course i can move it to my mac reverse it and bring it back, but > since > i do not have a good sample editor on the mac this experience is long and > always frustrates me, becuase i don't have a good sample editor. > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |Arne F. Claassen | > | | > | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | > | finger for PGP public key | > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > . From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Tue Oct 5 05:09:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 Oct 93 05:09 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <27434-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 13:08:58 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 13:08:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 13:08:55 +0100 Message-Id: <9310051208.AAfidibus01936@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad X-Sender: tgf@fidibus Subject: Re: Bank loading - really OS updating Sumit Das told: >>I am having trouble with banks. Here is the history of the problem: > >I had an older OS (1.1 I think), and a removable disk full of instruments. >I updated the OS on the disk to 1.3, by using the "write OS to disk" >function. The manual says it won't work if there are instruments on the >disk, but it did. Did I do a no-no? > Unfortunately you did a no, no. It seems the EPS file system will always place the OS in specific blocks on the disk for a given disk size. ( It is always right after the File Allocation Table, The starting block of the FAT is fixed but the size of the FAT depends on the size of the disk ) So I think you have overwritten whatever was located in those blocks before. That can cause you a lot of trouble.( The files you have overwritten were not removed from the directory. The directory entries are still there, but are pointing right into your OS..... ) While the OS you have loaded may apparently work, your disk is really damaged. In the worst case you could make things worse by writing new material to it. You should backup whatever you _can from the disk; by first loading it to your EPS and check that it works and then write to a new disk. The old disk should be reformatted, unless you love surprises. Thrust your manual. It seems to me that updating to a newer OS version on a disk wich already has the OS on it can only be done if the new OS has the same size or is smaller than the previous version, if one do not want to reformat or erease the disk first. Terje From elixir.e.kth.se!philip Tue Oct 5 12:39:29 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.237.48.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:39 PDT Received: by elixir.e.kth.se id AA26816; Tue, 5 Oct 93 20:26:51 +0100 From: philip@elixir.e.kth.se (Philip Gutierrez) Message-Id: <9310051926.AA26816@elixir.e.kth.se> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR10R and SCSI hell Date: Tue, 05 Oct 93 20:26:50 N I am thinking about getting a SCSI drive for an ASR10R. The thing would be to transfer samples via the ASR to the Mac and vice versa. Mac->HD->ASR Is this possible??? Heard people bitch about this and SCSI sample transfers in general... Any ideas??? Thanks phil From eecs.uic.edu!das Tue Oct 5 18:03:33 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.248.166.25 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 Oct 93 18:03 PDT Received: by bert.eecs.uic.edu id AA19133 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 5 Oct 1993 20:03:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 19:59:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Sumit Das Subject: updating the OS To: EPS info net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a removeable disk with a big directory structure and a lot of files on it. It has OS 1.1 or something on it. I want to create a copy of this disk with OS 1.3 on it. How do I do it? Backup/restore, copy SCSI disk both of these copy the OS on the disk, even if I format the disk and put OS 1.3 on it, they write over it with 1.1... DO I really have to do a file-by-file copy to do this? It seems a bit screwy. Thanks, -smeet From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Wed Oct 6 06:42:27 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 06:41 PDT Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.2-10 #5323) id <01H3SD8TCJU80003JE@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:39:07 EDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H3SD0MCAY80020ZZ@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:35:37 EST Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1993 09:35:37 -0500 (EST) From: Lugwrench! Subject: Ensoniq's number To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H3SD0MCKLE0020ZZ@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > The new version of the EPS OS features, among other things, a backup > command that WILL defragment your disk! Call Ensoniq, they will mail you > an update ( I got mine within a week). This sounds cool, but how much does it cost? Also, I don't have Ensoniq's number. I'd appreciate it if someone could mail it to me. Could we put it in the FAQ? Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lugwrench! | "I tried psychotherapy, TV, and beer; IN%"potter%Techdb | But sometimes I still feel like Van Gough's left ear" @Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.CA" | -- "Life Is A Rubber Rope", The Houseflies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cornell.edu!rjl5 Wed Oct 6 06:54:20 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.236.56.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 06:53 PDT Received: from [128.84.245.150] by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu with SMTP id AA18060 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:52:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:52:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199310061352.AA18060@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> To: Sumit Das From: rjl5@cornell.edu (Rob Levine) X-Sender: rjl5@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu Subject: Re: updating the OS Cc: eps@reed.edu I believe you should first make the copy. Don't worry about the OS. After the copy is completed put the copy in your removeable drive. Boot with a 1.3 OS floppy and select the command 'change storage device'. Choose the scsi address of the device that contains your copy. After the device has been selected choose the command 'copy os to disk'. It will then ask some questions , copy the os 1.3 to memory and then store it on your selected device (which is your copy). -- rob -- >I have a removeable disk with a big directory structure and a lot of files >on it. It has OS 1.1 or something on it. I want to create a copy of this >disk with OS 1.3 on it. How do I do it? Backup/restore, copy SCSI disk >both of these copy the OS on the disk, even if I format the disk and put >OS 1.3 on it, they write over it with 1.1... DO I really have to do a >file-by-file copy to do this? It seems a bit screwy. > >Thanks, > >-smeet From cornell.edu!rjl5 Wed Oct 6 07:32:32 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.236.56.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 07:31 PDT Received: from [128.84.245.150] by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu with SMTP id AA26630 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 10:29:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 10:29:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199310061429.AA26630@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> To: Lugwrench! From: rjl5@cornell.edu (Rob Levine) X-Sender: rjl5@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (Unverified) Subject: Re: Ensoniq's number Cc: EPS@Reed.Edu >> The new version of the EPS OS features, among other things, a backup >> command that WILL defragment your disk! Call Ensoniq, they will mail you >> an update ( I got mine within a week). > >This sounds cool, but how much does it cost? > >Also, I don't have Ensoniq's number. I'd appreciate it if someone could >mail it to me. Could we put it in the FAQ? > >Thanks, > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lugwrench! | "I tried psychotherapy, TV, and beer; The OS is 1.3 and has been out for some time. I called Ensoniq (215-647-3930) and they will send it out at no charge to you. However, there is no NEW OS since 1.3. -- rob -- From eecs.uic.edu!das Wed Oct 6 07:44:50 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.248.166.25 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 07:43 PDT Received: by bert.eecs.uic.edu id AA14053 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:43:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:39:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Sumit Das Subject: Re: updating the OS To: Rob Levine Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <199310061352.AA18060@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I believe you should first make the copy. Don't worry about the OS. After > the copy is completed put the copy in your removeable drive. Boot with a > 1.3 OS floppy and select the command 'change storage device'. Choose the > scsi address of the device that contains your copy. After the device has > been selected choose the command 'copy os to disk'. It will then ask some > questions , copy the os 1.3 to memory and then store it on your selected > device (which is your copy). The problem is that the manual says that you should not write the OS to a disk that already has instruments or sequences on it. I did that once, and the disk has acted wierd ever since. Actually, the manual says you won't be able to, so I tried it and it let me, but then I paid for it later... -smeet From eecs.uic.edu!das Wed Oct 6 08:19:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.248.166.25 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 08:19 PDT Received: by bert.eecs.uic.edu id AA15181 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 10:19:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 10:16:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Sumit Das Subject: Re: updating the OS To: Rob Levine Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <199310061352.AA18060@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I believe you should first make the copy. Don't worry about the OS. After > the copy is completed put the copy in your removeable drive. Boot with a > 1.3 OS floppy and select the command 'change storage device'. Choose the > scsi address of the device that contains your copy. After the device has > been selected choose the command 'copy os to disk'. It will then ask some > questions , copy the os 1.3 to memory and then store it on your selected > device (which is your copy). > > -- rob -- > > > >I have a removeable disk with a big directory structure and a lot of files > >on it. It has OS 1.1 or something on it. I want to create a copy of this > >disk with OS 1.3 on it. How do I do it? Backup/restore, copy SCSI disk > >both of these copy the OS on the disk, even if I format the disk and put > >OS 1.3 on it, they write over it with 1.1... DO I really have to do a > >file-by-file copy to do this? It seems a bit screwy. > > > >Thanks, > > > >-smeet > Well, I just called Ensoniq, and according to them, the manual is either wrong or out of date. What I did and what you suggested should be fine. It wasn't, but I reformatted that disk, and I'll try again. The problems were only occasional, actually, only showing up when I tried to load banks via MIDI program change (the EPS would lock up). I'll let you know if there are further discoveries -smeet From cornell.edu!rjl5 Wed Oct 6 08:28:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.236.56.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 08:27 PDT Received: from [128.84.245.150] by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu with SMTP id AA00207 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 11:27:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 11:27:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199310061527.AA00207@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> To: Sumit Das From: rjl5@cornell.edu (Rob Levine) X-Sender: rjl5@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu Subject: Re: updating the OS Cc: eps@reed.edu Hi, The manual says you can copy the OS to a new formatted disk or to update the OS on an existing disk with a newer version. I could be wrong but I believe that they mean you can't copy the OS to a disk that has saved sequences and intruments but no original OS on it. That is, if you formatted a disk and saved instruments & sequences and then attempted to put an OS on it there would be problems. I think that as long as the OS is on the disk BEFORE any other files it is ok. Perhaps someone else in this group could give us some input. However, I have updated my hard drive from one OS to the next with no problems. Also, regarding the 'defrag' capability. The notes for OS 1.3 state that the defragmentation occurs when you choose to 'restore' to the original drive, not when you backup. -- rob -- >The problem is that the manual says that you should not write the OS to a >disk that already has instruments or sequences on it. I did that once, and >the disk has acted wierd ever since. Actually, the manual says you won't >be able to, so I tried it and it let me, but then I paid for it later... > >-smeet From verity.com!jboyd Wed Oct 6 09:03:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.187.143.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 09:02 PDT Received: by verity.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22351; Wed, 6 Oct 93 09:03:47 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 09:03:47 PDT From: jboyd@verity.com (John Boyd) Message-Id: <9310061603.AA22351@verity.com> Errors-To: To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Ensoniq's new OS |> The new version of the EPS OS features, among other things, a backup |> command that WILL defragment your disk! Call Ensoniq, they will mail you |> an update ( I got mine within a week). Is this available for the Classic too? | | This sounds cool, but how much does it cost? If its free, can we we make it available on REED somewhere? -j From VINES.URC.KUN.NL!E.Roos%buro%KUN Wed Oct 6 09:13:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.174.82.164 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 09:12 PDT Received: from vines.urc.kun.nl by KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL (PMDF #12484) id <01H3ST3JV3LS90OCPC@KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 17:12 MET Received: by vines.urc.kun.nl with VINES ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 17:11:37 MET Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 17:08:46 MET From: E.Roos@buro.kun.nl Subject: EPS-book To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01H3ST3JV3LS90OCPC@KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL> X-Envelope-to: eps@reed.edu Hi all! Does anyone know the book "Ensoniq EPS 16+ Operations & Sampling book"; 1991; written by L. Rychner, 226 pages ? Does this book give more information / tips & tricks than the operating manual? Thanks! Eric From xerox.com!Brian_T_Ormond.Wbst128 Wed Oct 6 10:52:17 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 13.1.64.93 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 10:51 PDT Received: from RITGateRevisited.Wbst128.Xerox.xns by alpha.xerox.com via XNS id <12136>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 10:51:12 PDT X-NS-Transport-ID: 0000AA007415B2B7305A Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 10:50:47 PDT From: Brian_T_Ormond.Wbst128@xerox.com Subject: EPS CLassic Hum To: EPS@reed.edu Message-ID: <" 6-Oct-93 13:50:47 EDT".*.Brian_T_Ormond.Wbst128@Xerox.com> Sorry about reposting this, but I had some trouble getting this out and apparently its distribution was limited... confusing... I'll say so!... the mail kept bouncing for days. I have a EPS Classic and a 16+ rack mount. I am getting a 60 cycle hum from the outputs (both left & right, as well as the 8 out expander) from my classic. The 16+ is quiet as a mouse. Is there some solution, perhaps similar to the ESQ cutting the ground off the plug fix? Thankx in advance! Brian From sicdes.dnet.etn.com!davis Wed Oct 6 11:13:15 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 151.110.3.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 11:11 PDT Received: by etn.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18140; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 14:02:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 14:02:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9310061802.AA18140@etn.com> From: davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com (TIMOTHY A. DAVIS) To: "eps@reed.edu"@whqst1.dnet.etn.com Subject: Re: Ensoniq's number > > From: WHQST1::"POTTER%TECHDB@OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA" 6-OCT-1993 12:38 > To: EPS@Reed.Edu > CC: > Subj: Ensoniq's number > > > > > The new version of the EPS OS features, among other things, a backup > > command that WILL defragment your disk! Call Ensoniq, they will mail you > > an update ( I got mine within a week). > > This sounds cool, but how much does it cost? > > Also, I don't have Ensoniq's number. I'd appreciate it if someone could > mail it to me. Could we put it in the FAQ? > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lugwrench! | "I tried psychotherapy, TV, and beer; > IN%"potter%Techdb | But sometimes I still feel like Van Gough's left ear" > @Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.CA" | -- "Life Is A Rubber Rope", The Houseflies > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to Transoniq Hacker: Ensoniq Customer Service: 9:30am - noon, 1:15pm - 6:30pm EST Monday - Friday (215) 647-3930 Tim Davis Milwaukee, WI davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com From nwnexus.wa.com!chernobog!max Wed Oct 6 12:48:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 12:47 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA05398 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 12:47:13 -0700 Received: by chernobog (NX5.67d/NeXT-2.0) id AA08249; Wed, 6 Oct 93 11:56:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 93 11:56:20 -0700 From: chernobog!max@nwnexus.wa.com (David Fedchenko) Message-Id: <9310061856.AA08249@ chernobog > Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: updating the OS Reply-To: chernobog!max@nwnexus.wa.com From: rjl5@cornell.edu (Rob Levine) > The manual says you can copy the OS to a new formatted disk or > to update the OS on an existing disk with a newer version. I > could be wrong but I believe that they mean you can't copy the > OS to a disk that has saved sequences and intruments but no > original OS on it. That is, if you formatted a disk and saved > instruments & sequences and then attempted to put an OS on it > there would be problems. I think that as long as the OS is on > the disk BEFORE any other files it is ok. > Perhaps someone else in this group could give us some input. > However, I have updated my hard drive from one OS to the next > with no problems. > > > The problem is that the manual says that you should not write > > the OS to a disk that already has instruments or sequences on > > it. I did that once, and the disk has acted wierd ever since. > > Actually, the manual says you won't be able to, so I tried it > > and it let me, but then I paid for it later... I'd like to put in my support for what Rob says up there. The EPS still works in an older paradigm where the OS absolutely HAS to be in the right place to be found. This place is also, unfortunately, a popular place for other files to show up when you start saving them. So if the system will actually let you write an OS onto a disk with only data files it will probably write right over the top of some of them. However, if you already have the OS on the disk, updating the OS shouldn't be a problem. While I haven't checked this out fully I have always been able to update my system floppies without any trouble, and I was also able to change a hard disk from ASR OS 1.5 to EPS OS 2.49 without a problem. I didn't expect it to work but I thought I'd try it anyway. It saved me having to reload the drive. david... From vipunen.hut.fi!jforsten Thu Oct 7 09:27:15 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.233.224.20 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 Oct 93 09:26 PDT Received: by vipunen.hut.fi (5.65c/7.0/S-TeKoLa) id AA30244; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:24:44 GMT From: LaFore Message-Id: <199310071624.AA30244@vipunen.hut.fi> Subject: Output Expander - Do-It-Yourself ? To: eps@Reed.edu Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 18:24:44 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 0 From hopper.acs.virginia.edu!james Thu Oct 7 19:47:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.143.86.18 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 Oct 93 19:46 PDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: MAM Demo To: wlallen@vnet.IBM.COM (Lynn Allen Dept:TN2 Phone:) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 22:46:42 -0500 (EDT) From: DJKC Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: from "Lynn Allen Dept:TN2 Phone:" at Sep 27, 93 07:32:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1230 In E-Mail recently Lynn Allen Dept:TN2 Phone: wrote, > > I have been trying to FTP the MAM1.GKH disk and write it to an EPS 16+ floppy > and I am not having any luck. I have tried both EPSWRITE and EPSDISK and > it always contains garbage in the directory after the 4th file. I am able > to load the first 4 files into the EPS but it doesn't list any bank or > sequence data on the disk. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > The MAM2 and MAM3 disks seem to load OK but not MAM1. Is this an ASR10 demo? > is the MAM1 file compressed in some way? Has anyone else tried FTPing it > lately?? Thanks in advance for the help. > This demo was created by me. It WAS made on an ASR-10, and after I made the demo, I learned that only instrument files are compatible between the EPS and ASR; sequence files (and others) are not. Sorry about this guys! Check out the samples, though -- they're cool! Maybe when/if y'all upgrade to ASR or get some type of conversion software, you can hear the demo. It's practically the exact same thing as the "Land of Oz" mix of the song. I made it so that retailers can show off their sampler with something other than JAZZ demos. :) -djkc -- Life is a rave and God is the DJ! From hopper.acs.virginia.edu!james Thu Oct 7 19:50:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.143.86.18 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 Oct 93 19:49 PDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: MAM Demo To: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 22:49:53 -0500 (EDT) From: DJKC Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9309281338.AA27702@elm.circa.ufl.edu> from "Mark Schneider" at Sep 28, 93 09:38:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 559 In E-Mail recently Mark Schneider wrote, > > In reply to Lynn Allen's post: > > I had problems with the MAM1.GKH disk (and not the others) too. The third > (I think) file wouldn't load into my EPS16+. > Also, remember that ASR comes with 2 megs standard (which was what I have, and the demo just about takes up all this memory), and the EPS with 1 meg, so it all won't load in at once unless you have atleast 2 megs. Any ASR-10 owners out there have a problem with MAM? Maybe it IS corrupted or something. -djkc -- Life is a rave and God is the DJ! From bsc.no!Tore.Dimmestol Fri Oct 8 01:51:59 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.177.21.11 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 8 Oct 93 01:51 PDT Received: from dickens (dickens.bsc.no) by mailroom.bsc.no id ; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 09:51:18 +0100 From: Tore Dimmestol Received: by dickens id ; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 09:52:00 +0100 Message-Id: <9310080852.AA27628@dickens> Subject: ftp login problems at eps.reed To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 09:51:59 +0100 (MET) Cc: tored@mailroom.bsc.no (Tore Dimmestol) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 614 Lately I have encountered problems with being granted anonymous ftp access rights at eps.reed.edu. I normally try to connect at off-peak hours. What could be the matter? Here is the outcome of a typical ftp session; ftp eps.reed.edu Connected to nexttues.reed.edu. Name (eps.reed.edu:tored): anonymous Access denied Login failed. ftp> thanx, Tore. email tored@bsc.no //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "You have to look for mantle piece" -Dalai Lama, Bergen, December 1990 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com!TKUITTINEN Fri Oct 8 04:27:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.228.128.211 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 8 Oct 93 04:27 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 13:28:27 +0300 (EET) From: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com (Timo Kuittinen p. +358 0 5104 4624) Message-Id: <931008132827.20606d14@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: Re: ftp access problems To: eps@reed.edu X-Vmsmail-To: INET"eps@reed.edu" Hi! Someone just posted a query about ftp access that seems to come up quite often. The complaint was about `Access denied' when trying to ftp to eps.reed.edu or nextues.reed.edu Well, as it says in the FAQ, the proper route to the archive is ftp.reed.edu, which gives you no problems whatsoever. === Hope this helps and reduces the recurring non-EPS mails. Regards, Timo ==== From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Fri Oct 8 06:16:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 8 Oct 93 06:16 PDT Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.2-10 #5323) id <01H3V5172WA800083R@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 09:16:16 EDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H3V4TCBDU80023XN@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 09:13:11 EST Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1993 09:13:11 -0500 (EST) From: Lugwrench! Subject: Techno Sounds Wanted! To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H3V4TCBDUA0023XN@CDEV.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Howdy. I'm a cowboy with a hankerin' for some reel good Techno sounds. Techno bass, techno percussion/drums, techno synths, and techno weird sounds. If anyone can help me rustle up some of these sounds I'd be mighty obliged! Thank'ee kindly, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lugwrench! | "I tried psychotherapy, TV, and beer; IN%"potter%Techdb | But sometimes I still feel like Van Gough's left ear" @Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.CA" | -- "Life Is A Rubber Rope", The Houseflies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cornell.edu!rjl5 Sun Oct 10 04:17:21 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 93 06:53 PDT Received: from [128.84.245.150] by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu with SMTP id AA18060 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:52:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:52:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199310061352.AA18060@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> To: Sumit Das From: rjl5@cornell.edu (Rob Levine) X-Sender: rjl5@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu Subject: Re: updating the OS Cc: eps@reed.edu I believe you should first make the copy. Don't worry about the OS. After the copy is completed put the copy in your removeable drive. Boot with a 1.3 OS floppy and select the command 'change storage device'. Choose the scsi address of the device that contains your copy. After the device has been selected choose the command 'copy os to disk'. It will then ask some questions , copy the os 1.3 to memory and then store it on your selected device (which is your copy). -- rob -- >I have a removeable disk with a big directory structure and a lot of files >on it. It has OS 1.1 or something on it. I want to create a copy of this >disk with OS 1.3 on it. How do I do it? Backup/restore, copy SCSI disk >both of these copy the OS on the disk, even if I format the disk and put >OS 1.3 on it, they write over it with 1.1... DO I really have to do a >file-by-file copy to do this? It seems a bit screwy. > >Thanks, > >-smeet From ee.WPI.EDU!wrm Mon Oct 11 05:26:26 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.215.16.20 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 11 Oct 93 05:26 PDT Received: by ee.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA23095; Mon, 11 Oct 1993 08:26:10 -0400 Received: by friskie.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09192; Mon, 11 Oct 1993 08:26:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9310111226.AA09192@friskie.WPI.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu From: William Michalson Subject: Re: MAM Demo Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 08:26:07 -0400 Sender: wrm@ee.WPI.EDU X-Mts: smtp >Any ASR-10 owners out there have a problem with MAM? Maybe it IS corrupted or >something. I was able to load and run it on an ASR-10 a month or so ago. Bill From sannsm.sandiegoca.NCR.COM!borisb Mon Oct 11 09:43:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 11 Oct 93 09:43 PDT Received: from 192.127.251.3 by vishnu.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 11 Oct 93 09:43 PDT Received: from ncrcom by ncrhub1.NCR.COM id ae05956; 11 Oct 93 12:26 EDT Received: from ncr-sd by ncrcom.DaytonOH.NCR.COM id ab11004; 11 Oct 93 11:49 EDT Received: by ncr-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM; 11 Oct 93 09:13:10 PDT Received: by lcpd-sd.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM; 11 Oct 93 09:24:10 PDT Received: by sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com with Microsoft Mail id <2CB98622@sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 93 09:13:22 PDT From: "Burtin, Boris" To: EPS Subject: Nifty snare effects Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 09:10:00 PDT Message-ID: <2CB98622@sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I was playing around with one of my drum kits on my 16+ last night and came up with a way to make the snare sound a bit more realistic. The main effect was caused by the filter. I used a low-pass filter to remove the high-frequency "sampling bite." I then programmed the high-pass filter to respond inversely to velocity. The higher the velocity, the more open the filter. So when you hit the key lightly there are less low frequencies, and it sounds more like a "tap" than a hard hit. This makes for great snare rolls, particularly if you assign two keys to the same sample. I guess the next step would be to have velocity inversely adjust the sample start point. I forget--is that possible? Stop me if you think that you've heard this one before... Boris boris.burtin@sandiegoca.ncr.com From ecn.purdue.edu!del Mon Oct 11 15:11:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 11 Oct 93 15:10 PDT Received: from 128.46.175.85 by vishnu.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 11 Oct 93 15:10 PDT Received: from localhost by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA21780; Mon, 11 Oct 93 17:10:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9310112210.AA21780@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: "Burtin, Boris" Cc: EPS Subject: Re: Nifty snare effects In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 11 Oct 1993 09:10:00 PDT." <2CB98622@sansmtpgw.sandiegoca.ncr.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 17:10:18 EST From: David A Whittemore another trick to get percussion to sound more dynamic is to have the sample start point move with velocity: make the start point be past the initial hit, then have it move backwards with more velocity. course, you have to be careful to avoid clicking. this trick worked especially well with a full FLAM sample - gentle hits play what was after the flam, while harder hits play more of the sample. VEL1 is more realistic than VEL the way i use them. *slight* pitch changes based upon velocity or pressure also help. for 16/th note open hats, i like to have them gently panning on LFO, with RESET. this opens the stereo image some, and it is subtle. you have to play around with the LFO time to get it to go *exactly* R->L during the duration of the sample play. if you use this one, be sure to turn off the (default) "pitch change on LFO". hint on sampling cymbals: unless your source is dead quiet, try not to use the "NORMALIZE/AMP" function, as that seems to bring up the noiz level as the cymbal dies off. instead, sample the thing as hot as possible. scaling data at the end gets most noise to a reasonable level. -david From egr.msu.edu!reed Mon Oct 11 18:08:41 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 35.8.8.61 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 11 Oct 93 18:08 PDT Received: from frith.egr.msu.edu by egr.msu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA11909; Mon, 11 Oct 93 21:08:15 -0400 Received: by frith.egr.msu.edu (5.61/SMI-4.0) id AA09903; Mon, 11 Oct 93 21:08:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 21:08:12 -0400 From: reed@egr.msu.edu Message-Id: <9310120108.AA09903@frith.egr.msu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: *URGENT* How's EMAGIC? Hi! I will be going to an Emagic demo tomorrow... It just so happens I'm in the market for a midi sequencer program for the Mac... I've read up on Performer, Vision but I don't know much about Emagic Logic... I'm sure the Ensoniq demo will be one hell of an awsome sales job, and if I don't know better I'll probably end up buying it... Are there any complaints out there from users? Regrets? Does it compete with Vision? or Cubase? It's so damn expensive... Is it worth it? I mean, it's more expensive than Vision! Someone please help! *Any* quick input will be greatly appreciated! I don't really care about the notation part of it... I'll be primarily using it for sequencing with my 16+... Thanks A Bunch! reed@egr.msu.edu P.S. Very desperate for Input! From MR.Net!williams Mon Oct 11 20:04:18 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.192.2.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 11 Oct 93 20:03 PDT Received: from [134.84.101.55] (dialIP-55.mr.net) by riverside.mr.net (4.1/SMI-4.1.R931009) id AA16903; Mon, 11 Oct 93 22:03:41 CDT From: "Freshly Open Grave" Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 21:55:51 CST Message-Id: <78953.williams@mr.net> Reply-To: X-Popmail-Charset: English To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ftp site Could someone please send me the name of the eps ftp site. I will write it down this time, I promise. Kennen Sie eine Merle? Kennen Sie eine Merle? Das ist gut...zu gut. Robert Williams<*>MANNA-MACHINE<*>Minneapolis noise williams@manna-machine.com OR williams@mr.net gerade sie..sie ist mein Opfer. Schad um sie.... sie wird's..ach, nicht lange durchhalten.... From SSD.intel.com!niski Tue Oct 12 09:25:52 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.46.201.30 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 12 Oct 93 09:25 PDT Received: from [137.46.21.3] (macniski.ssd.intel.com) by SSD.intel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08745; Tue, 12 Oct 93 09:25:24 PDT Message-Id: <9310121625.AA08745@SSD.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 09:25:28 -0800 To: reed@egr.msu.edu, eps@reed.edu From: niski@SSD.intel.com (Joe Niski) Subject: Re: *URGENT* How's EMAGIC? At 9:08 PM 10/11/93 -0400, reed@egr.msu.edu wrote: >Hi! I will be going to an Emagic demo tomorrow... It just so happens >I'm in the market for a midi sequencer program for the Mac... I've >read up on Performer, Vision but I don't know much about Emagic Logic... >I'm sure the Ensoniq demo will be one hell of an awsome sales job, and >if I don't know better I'll probably end up buying it... > >Are there any complaints out there from users? Regrets? Does it compete >with Vision? or Cubase? It's so damn expensive... Is it worth it? I >mean, it's more expensive than Vision! > >Someone please help! *Any* quick input will be greatly appreciated! I don't >really care about the notation part of it... I'll be primarily using it >for sequencing with my 16+... > >Thanks A Bunch! >reed@egr.msu.edu > >P.S. Very desperate for Input! i've never used EMAGIC, but i just switched from Master Tracks Pro (woefully under-featured) to Metro from OSC. Disclaimer: i'm a beta-tester and involved with product development at OSC. Metro was purchased from the original author last year (it was formerly known as "Beyond"). Metro has all the features of Vision with a less cluttered (though still quirky) interface. My favorite compositional tool is the ability to create individual sequences, then build a complete song by dragging sequences into another sequence window. Sub-sequence looping is pretty cool, too, alng with a nice interface to using & mixing your OMS instruments. And it's very reasonably priced, listing at less than US$300. Joe Joe Niski niski@ssd.intel.com Macintosh (yes, Macintosh) System/Network Administrator Intel Supercomputer Systems Division Beaverton, OR USA From bristol.com!arisb Tue Oct 12 09:58:46 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.246.192.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 12 Oct 93 09:58 PDT Received: by bristol.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10853; Tue, 12 Oct 93 12:57:36 EDT From: arisb@bristol.com (Aris Antanas Buinevicius) Message-Id: <9310121657.AA10853@bristol.com> Subject: Re: *URGENT* How's EMAGIC? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 12 Oct 93 12:57:36 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Going along with this thread in a Windows-based mode; does anyone have any preference for Windows-based sequencers? So far it seems that CakeWalk is the most heavily used; does anyone have any recommendations for sequencers that are especially friendly to the EPS 16+? Also, does anyone have any experience with Windows-based sample editors? Is there any compatibility with some of the popular Mac sample software ? Thanks a lot! (Alas, I'm selling my Amiga, may it rest in peace; Bars and Pipes was a very nice sequencer!) Aris Buinevicius -- ====================================================================== Aris Buinevicius Bristol Technology Inc. Internet: arisb@bristol.com Makers of Motif HyperHelp and For Info: info@bristol.com Xprinter, components of Wind/U. For demos: anonymous ftp ftp.uu.net, vendor/Bristol directory. ====================================================================== From uafhp.uark.edu!pstaffor Tue Oct 12 12:47:18 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.184.7.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 12 Oct 93 12:46 PDT Received: by uafhp.uark.edu (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA10806; Tue, 12 Oct 93 14:41:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 14:39:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Stafford Subject: Re: *URGENT* How's EMAGIC? To: Aris Antanas Buinevicius Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9310121657.AA10853@bristol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII EPS 16+ is being supported by SampleVision for Windows, a relatively quick and full featured visual sample editor (quick only if you use SCSI for transferring samples to the EPS). Cakewalk is the best overall sequencer/notator for Windows (very few lockups). Phillip From horde Tue Oct 12 13:03:16 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 12 Oct 93 13:02 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 13:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: FTP SERVER TO BE DOWN... To: eps@reed.edu, paradise-workers@reed.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII FTP.REED.EDU will be down from 9am Thursday (10/14) until sometime on Friday for a software upgrade. Hopefully I'll have it up and working before the weekend. -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) Unix Systems Manager, Reed College From sicdes.dnet.etn.com!davis Tue Oct 12 13:35:51 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 151.110.3.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 12 Oct 93 13:35 PDT Received: by etn.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02930; Tue, 12 Oct 1993 16:25:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 16:25:46 -0400 Message-Id: <9310122025.AA02930@etn.com> From: davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com (TIMOTHY A. DAVIS) To: "eps@reed.edu"@whqst1.dnet.etn.com Subject: D70#1.gkh.Z EPS/Internet Explorers: I tried downloading the EPS sample file D70#1.gkh.Z from ftp site ftp.reed.edu and found it corrupted!?!?!? Has anyone else had this same problem? The D70#2 samples are great! Could the originator try uploading D70#1 again? Thanks T.A.Davis Milwaukee, WI davis@sicdes.dnet.etn.com From aol.com!vitali1055 Wed Oct 13 15:04:16 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.203.190.81 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 13 Oct 93 15:02 PDT Received: by aol.com (16.8/16.2) id AA07388; Wed, 13 Oct 93 18:00:54 -0400 From: vitali1055@aol.com X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: Errors-To: Reply-To: Message-Id: <9310131737.tn01571@aol.com> To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 17:37:52 EDT Subject: Mac EPS16+ Editor Hi -- any suggestions (pro or con) for a Mac EPS16+ sample creator/editor? From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Wed Oct 13 17:42:37 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 13 Oct 93 17:42 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07632; Wed, 13 Oct 93 17:43:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 17:41:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: Mac EPS16+ Editor To: vitali1055@aol.com Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9310131737.tn01571@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Oct 1993 vitali1055@aol.com wrote: > Hi -- any suggestions (pro or con) for a Mac EPS16+ sample creator/editor? Hey, any Mac based ASR/EPS file editor software out there??? From uahis1.uah.edu!ebs330!claassen Thu Oct 14 12:18:00 1993 Return-Path: <@uahis1.uah.edu:claassen@ebs330> Received: from 146.229.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 14 Oct 93 12:17 PDT Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Thu, 14 Oct 93 14:02:57 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20318; Thu, 14 Oct 93 13:56:01 CDT From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9310141856.AA20318@ebs330> Subject: Isolating EPS noise. To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 13:56:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1043 I know this has been the subject for much discussion, but i never used to give much attention to the discussion, since my setup swallowd most noise (with some other dynamic ranges). Now that i have a good mixer, the noise is clear and pronounced, especially when loading from disk. You can hear the HD jump tracks on the monitor speakers. Has anyone discovered a method for isolating the outputs from the rest of the board? If anyone knows how to perform that hardware mod, please let me know, since the EPS is the most used item in my rig, and the singlemost noisy item at the same time. Does this get better with an EPS-16? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Arne F. Claassen | | | | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | | finger for PGP public key | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . From uahis1.uah.edu!ebs330!claassen Thu Oct 14 12:38:52 1993 Return-Path: <@uahis1.uah.edu:claassen@ebs330> Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 14 Oct 93 12:17 PDT Received: from ebs330 by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Thu, 14 Oct 93 13:59:24 CST Received: by ebs330 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20277; Thu, 14 Oct 93 13:52:20 CDT From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9310141852.AA20277@ebs330> Subject: Ways to crash an EPS... (an ongoing tale) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 13:52:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1100 Well, i narrowed down two methods to crash the EPS: 1) when playing and holding a couple of keys and at the same time hitting the YES key to do a disk function (other than macros), i've been able to reliably freeze the sucker. Good to know, annoying to have... So much for loading while playing. 2) when using a MIDI box that can be switched to through, hence bouncing the signal back to the EPS. Play a sequence then switch it to thru and back a couple of times. Sooner, not later, it will hang with the last notes hanging for eternity. If you are lucky, it may respond to a ALL NOTES off from another device, but that usually triggers a Error 141- Reboot? with my EPS. Ho hum... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Arne F. Claassen | | | | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | | finger for PGP public key | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . From loki.spdc.ti.com!mikea Sat Oct 16 07:24:04 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.94.94.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 16 Oct 93 07:21 PDT Received: from tilde.csc.ti.com ([128.247.160.56]) by ti.com with SMTP (5.65c/LAI-3.2) id AA24029; Sat, 16 Oct 1993 09:25:28 -0500 Received: from spdc.ti.com (cauldron) by tilde.csc.ti.com id AA22110; Sat, 16 Oct 1993 09:21:06 -0500 Received: from loki.spdc.ti.com by spdc.ti.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29582; Sat, 16 Oct 93 09:21:26 CDT Received: by loki.spdc.ti.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00948; Sat, 16 Oct 93 09:21:12 CDT From: mikea@loki.spdc.ti.com (Mike Anderson) Message-Id: <9310161421.AA00948@loki.spdc.ti.com> Subject: EPS Hard Drive Format? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 09:21:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 889 EPS Interneters I have a SyDOS removeable HD that is connected to both my PC and EPS16+. I use DOS disks for the PC and EPS disks for the EPS, everything works fine, no problems. The question is, does anyone know how to read EPS hard disks from a PC? Does anyone have the hard disk format for the EPS? If someone could supply the format, I'd be glad to work on some PD utils for reading hard disks. The ultimate goal is to be able to browse the HD directory tree and load sounds from the PC, but just being able to read and maybe print the directory structure would be real nice. Any related info would be appreciated. -- Mike Anderson Internet: mikea@spdc.ti.com Texas Instruments TI MSG: MLA P.O.Box 655012, MS 463 Voice: (214) 995-1260 Dallas, TX 75265 FAX: (214) 995-6801 From minna.acc.iit.edu!CMSABEL Sat Oct 16 12:10:15 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.41.245.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 16 Oct 93 12:09 PDT Received: from minna.acc.iit.edu by minna.acc.iit.edu (PMDF V4.2-12 #3556) id <01H46LIOBDU88ZGIMV@minna.acc.iit.edu>; Sat, 16 Oct 1993 14:08:54 CDT Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 14:08:54 -0500 (CDT) From: CMSABEL@minna.acc.iit.edu Subject: Atari up/down load software To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01H46LIOCGF68ZGIMV@minna.acc.iit.edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi. can anyone tell me where to find Atari software to up and download samples to/from here? Some docs that I read talked about a program called -disk-wizard - that was supposed to be in the /pub/utils directory. I didn't see it there. I have an ASR-10 and many good samples that I've made and would like to share. Thanx in advance Marc From minna.acc.iit.edu!CMSABEL Sat Oct 16 15:13:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.41.245.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 16 Oct 93 15:12 PDT Received: from minna.acc.iit.edu by minna.acc.iit.edu (PMDF V4.2-12 #3556) id <01H46RXNZ6DS8ZGYDT@minna.acc.iit.edu>; Sat, 16 Oct 1993 17:11:58 CDT Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 17:11:58 -0500 (CDT) From: CMSABEL@minna.acc.iit.edu Subject: Atari for up/downloads - (again?) To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01H46RXNZZBM8ZGYDT@minna.acc.iit.edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi..sorry if this is a repeat..I'm not sure it made it out last time I sent it. can anyone tell me where to find Atari software to up and download samples to/from here? Some docs that I read talked about a program called -disk-wizard - that was supposed to be in the /pub/utils directory. I didn't see it there. I have an ASR-10 and many good samples that I've made and would like to share. Thanx in advance Marc From ecn.purdue.edu!del Sun Oct 17 18:46:39 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.175.156 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 17 Oct 93 18:44 PDT Received: by purgatory.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA07144; Sun, 17 Oct 93 20:44:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 93 20:44:52 -0500 From: del@ecn.purdue.edu (de l`abattoir) Message-Id: <9310180144.AA07144@purgatory.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: upload: 61snare,gkh as the 61snare.txt file says.. Sun Oct 17 20:40:16 EST 1993 no one asked for it, but you get it anyway. 61 snares! clocks in at 1173 blocks. all high quality samples. courtesy Vergiftung. -david del@ecn.purdue.edu From math.rwth-aachen.de!fischers Mon Oct 18 09:38:43 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.95.20.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 18 Oct 93 09:37 PDT Received: by ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.4) id ; Mon, 18 Oct 93 09:37 PDT Received: from urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de by sally.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/sally-2) id AA15761; Mon, 18 Oct 93 17:33:01 +0100 Received: from math.math.rwth-aachen.de by urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/urmel-12) id AA29280; Mon, 18 Oct 93 17:32:35 +0100 Received: by math.math.rwth-aachen.de (15.11/15.6) id AA02379; Mon, 18 Oct 93 17:32:44 mez From: Sven Fischer Message-Id: <9310181632.AA02379@math.math.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Unsubscribe To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 18 Oct 93 17:32:42 MEZ Mailer: Elm [revision: 64.9] unsubscribe