From char.vnet.net!pauln Tue Sep 7 11:18:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.180.33.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 93 11:18 PDT Received: by char.vnet.net id AA18523 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 7 Sep 1993 14:18:34 -0400 From: Paul Noble Message-Id: <199309071818.AA18523@char.vnet.net> Subject: Re: Downloading from ftp.reed.edu To: paul%taarna.UUCP@iro.umontreal.ca Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 14:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9309071455.AA11690@taarna> from "paul%taarna.UUCP@iro.umontreal.ca" at Sep 7, 93 10:55:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 573 > I've tried downloading samples from the site. They get to my Mac > ok, but trying to write a disk using EPSm gets me nowhere. I tried > with the file 'krcsyn3.gkh.Z' from 'eps/samples/misc', and when i > try to load an instrument into my 16+, it goes 'data corrupted' or > some such nonsense. The weird thing is that 'krcsyn2.gkh.Z' loaded up > fine. Anybody have any tips? > It looks to me by your message that you are not uncompressing the file. Hince the .Z at the end of the file name. Run UNIX uncompress on it first before you try to move it to the mac. From IRO.UMontreal.CA!paul%taarna.UUCP Tue Sep 7 11:36:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.204.32.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 93 11:36 PDT Received: from taarna.UUCP by iros1.IRO.UMontreal.CA (4.1-SMI/MX) with UUCP id AA03680; Tue, 7 Sep 93 14:36:19 EDT From: paul%taarna.UUCP@iro.umontreal.ca Received: from tex.taarna.qc.ca by taarna via SMTP (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for iros1!reed.edu!eps id AA12939; Tue, 7 Sep 93 14:39:25 -0400 Message-Id: <9309071839.AA12939@taarna> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 14:39:24 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Downloading from ftp.reed.edu Hi all, I got a couple of replies to my query of this morning. Gentlemen, you are all very nice, but I work on a UNIX system for a living, so I know what a '.Z' file is. My questions lie more in the Mac and EPSm area, as I am unfamiliar with the features and caveats of the program. BTW, any suggestions on PC software at reed? Paul -- -- Paul Provost paul@taarna.qc.ca, provostp@ERE.UMontreal.CA Software Engineer Taarna System Inc. 305 De La Commune O., Suite 100, Montreal, Canada (514)844-8448 From ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu!MOREYLC Tue Sep 7 12:11:49 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.59.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 93 12:11 PDT Received: from ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF #3899 ) id <01H2O3Q943288XI2ST@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>; Tue, 7 Sep 1993 14:08:43 CDT Date: 07 Sep 1993 14:08:43 -0500 (CDT) From: MOREYLC@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu Subject: SampleVision To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01H2O3Q94CPE8XI2ST@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: MOREYLC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey all, long time no post. Hoping to get back into the swing of things for any e-mail sample swappers who wondered if I fell off the face of the earth. I wanted to let folks know that my most recent extravagance was the purchase of Turtle Beach's SampleVision, a DOS-based sample editing graphic interface program. I had always wanted it but the price was a bit much, but the GOOD NEWS is that it is now heavily discounted-- I ordered it from Sound Warehouse (1-800-333-4554) for $79!! And, my initial review is, it is clearly worth that, at least to me, and if you've downloaded any of my samples from ftp.reed.edu you know I don't do this for a living. Although I've only played with it a bit, here's what I like: --Full graphic waveform editing--yes, cut and pasting of different sections of the waveform to different parts of the sample; --Full loop-finding display, complete with crossfading AND animation of the waveform so you can see where the sample starts to die down; --Frequency analysis (time by amplitude by frequency charts) that really let you scope out just what is it you are dealing with in the sample; --Very versatile equalizer that lets you remove, using a variety of algorithms (hi-pass, band-pass, etc.) parametrically, across all or even certain portions of the sample; --instant updating of loop edits (although sample edits have to be uploaded back to the sampler, at least on the EPS/EPS16); --capacity to download/upload samples from a wide array of samplers, as well as Digidesign format. The program works thru MIDI sysex in downloading/uploading samples, using an MPU 401 interface. I'm running it with a "classic" EPS and a 286 processor; the program is NOT a windows program and only needs 640k to load in some fairly sizable samples. So far I've been having a gas playing with it, although I would still be reluctant to shell out the original asking price for it (which was around $400, I believe). Now, my question to you all: anybody else know of any FTP sites that have either samplevision .SMP files, Digidesign .DIG files, or anything similar to those?? Or am I the only person on the planet who has ever actually purchased this program?? I'd be curious to know. From msc.edu!alan Tue Sep 7 13:03:32 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 93 13:03 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA19647; Tue, 7 Sep 93 15:03:10 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA12117; Tue, 7 Sep 93 15:03:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 15:03:11 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9309072003.AA12117@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR-10 new OS I spotted an ad in the latest Keyboard that describes a new version of the O.S. for the ASR-10. Apparently it allows the ASR-10 to act as a DAT recorder, writing the inputs out to a SCSI hard disk. It can bounce tracks, overdub, etc. Has anybody managed to get the new O.S. and try it out yet? Does the recording work in real time, like the effects? And how much does it cost for existing owners to upgrade? -Al From uu4.psi.com!witch!root Tue Sep 7 18:29:14 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 38.146.21.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 93 18:28 PDT Received: from witch.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA23604 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 93 21:09:15 -0400 Received: by theend.win.net; Sat, 4 Sep 1993 19:7.10.26 Mailer: WinNET Mail, v1.02 Message-Id: <189@theend.win.net> Reply-To: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 19:7.10.21 Subject: FOR SALE: EPS-16+ and others From: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) Yep, I've got a bunch of good stuff that I'm looking to sell. All of this stuff is in great condition and most of it has only traveled outside of my music room once or twice. Here's the list, in general prices are negotiable and I'll split shipping. (If you live in the bay area I'll deliver it.) Ensoniq EPS-16+ sampler $1500 includes ME-16+ memory expansion (2 Mb total RAM) PS-2 SCSI interface Roland EV-5 Pedal 2 WaveBoy effects disks 200+ disk library all manuals/packaging, etc. PS Systems 44 Mb Removable Rack Mount Drive $500 includes 2 44 Mb Cartridges two SCSI cables Boss SE-50 Stereo Effects Processor $250 CakeWalk Professional for Windows sequencer $150 with all manuals/packaging MidiQuest PC MIDI Card $50 Thunderboard for BC sound card $35 So there it is. If you need more information either call me at 408 246 9145 (nights) or 408 370 1700 x118 (days) or send me mail at Insect@TheEnd.Win.Net Thanks and regards. ===================================================================== Simon Insect-o-cutor He's losing his mind and he feels it Insect@TheEnd.Win.Net going. 70661.2661@CompuServe.Com From ACAD.DRAKE.EDU!AAR001 Wed Sep 8 10:57:06 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.84.11.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 10:56 PDT Received: from ACAD.DRAKE.EDU by ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #2922) id <01H2PFSVNE9S0077ZY@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 12:54:51 CDT Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 12:54:51 -0500 (CDT) From: ANDREW RUSSELL 271-2380 CA #9 Subject: Deterioting EPS To: EPS@REED.EDU Message-id: <01H2PFSVNE9U0077ZY@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"EPS@REED.EDU" X-VMS-Cc: AAR001 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi All, My EPS used to overheat, sections of the LCD charactors on the display would dissappear, and it would ultimatly crash in a matter of about 2 hours of use. This condition is getting progressively worse, and I am lucky to get 15-30 minutes of use anymore even with a fan cooling it. My system is an EPA Clasic with the old ROM (1.2?) and a generic 2X expansion. Has anybody had similar problems? Any idea what is wrong, or how to fix it? Thanks, Andy Russell P.S. If you would rather reply to me personally, send to: AAR001@Acad.Drake.Edu From vader.egr.uri.edu!kennedyj Wed Sep 8 11:00:47 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.128.50.80 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 11:00 PDT Received: by vader.egr.uri.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA23679; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 14:00:13 -0400 Received: by ziggy.egr.uri.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA10281; Wed, 8 Sep 93 14:00:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 14:00:09 -0400 From: kennedyj@ziggy.eng.uri.edu (John Kennedy) Message-Id: <9309081800.AA10281@ziggy.egr.uri.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, wavy@brahms.udel.edu Subject: Re: cdrom I purchased a cdrom for my 16+. According to ENSONIQ the cdrom MUST use either a TOSHIBA or SONY drive mechanism to function correctly. I opted for an APPLE cdrom which are available for @ $429. This hasn't fouled up at all, and I've been quite satisfied. Sorry if your receiving this to late to help. From bnr.ca!trice Wed Sep 8 11:07:37 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.58.194.73 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 11:07 PDT X400-Received: by mta x400gate.bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 14:06:38 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 14:06:22 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 10:04:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 14:04:00 +0000 X400-Originator: /DD.ID=1678912/G=Tony/I=T/S=Rice/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.256:08.08.93.18.06.22] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: unsubscribe From: "Tony (T.) Rice" Sender: "Tony (T.) Rice" Message-ID: <"27266 Wed Sep 8 14:06:28 1993"@bnr.ca> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: unsubscribe please unsubscribe me from the EPS mailing list Tony R. Rice Bell Northern Research Systems Development Environment Support Research Triangle Park, NC ----------------------------------------------------------------------- trice@bnr.ca " GO " Opinions are my own, & don't mrmidi@aol.com HOKIES! reflect those of BNR or NT From eecs.uic.edu!das Wed Sep 8 11:54:27 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.248.166.25 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 11:54 PDT Received: by bert.eecs.uic.edu id AA16392 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:54:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:42:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Sumit Das Subject: Loading banks via MIDI To: EPS info net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all. I am using an EPS 16+ rack-mount unit, and running with software I have written myself. I periodically need to load collections of instruments from the SCSI disk. Right now, I have to load one instrument at a time, and put in a wait loop for however long I estimate the instrument will take to load. This is because the EPS does not seem to send an acknowledge when it has completed the load, and also the OS I have does not allow loading banks via program change, only by the front panel. This is kludgey to say the least. Can I either get the sampler to tell me when it is done loading the sample, OR load an entire bank??? Every time I edit a sample, I have to make guesses at how long the load will take, and if I guess too short, the sampler loses the next message... Thanks in advance, -smeet From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Wed Sep 8 12:01:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 12:01 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA07252; Wed, 8 Sep 93 14:53:28 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C8E564A@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Wed, 08 Sep 93 15:01:46 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: EPS SCSI ? (Was Re: cdrom) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 93 15:00:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C8E564A@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Does anyone know if this'll work with a classic, or are we (Classic owners) pretty much screwed for CDROM usage. Secondly, since I _still_ don't have a HD, is it possible to connect and use the EPS to access more than one SCSI drive, or would you have to swap cables? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPLY FROM: Winer, Greg Return-Path: <@IBM4381.ONET.EDU:kennedyj@vader.egr.uri.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 14:00:09 -0400 From: kennedyj@ziggy.eng.uri.edu (John Kennedy) Message-Id: <9309081800.AA10281@ziggy.egr.uri.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, wavy@brahms.udel.edu Subject: Re: cdrom I purchased a cdrom for my 16+. According to ENSONIQ the cdrom MUST use either a TOSHIBA or SONY drive mechanism to function correctly. I opted for an APPLE cdrom which are available for @ $429. This hasn't fouled up at all, and I've been quite satisfied. Sorry if your receiving this to late to help. From uunet.UU.NET!korgrd!korgrd.com!dan Wed Sep 8 13:17:07 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 13:16 PDT Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA19028; Wed, 8 Sep 93 16:16:02 -0400 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp4.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 161454.26185; Wed, 8 Sep 1993 16:14:54 EDT Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21819; Wed, 8 Sep 93 12:47:50 PDT Message-Id: <9309081947.AA21819@korgrd.com> Date: 8 Sep 1993 12:50:33 -0800 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: EPS SCSI ? (Was Re- cdr To: "Ensoniq User's Group" Reply to: RE>EPS SCSI ? (Was Re: cdrom) Greg Winer writes: > Does anyone know if this'll work with a classic, or are we (Classic owners) > pretty much screwed for CDROM usage. Secondly, since I _still_ don't have a > HD, is it possible to connect and use the EPS to access more than one SCSI > drive, or would you have to swap cables? You can select the SCSI ID to be used as the current drive, and change this on the fly - so, no, you shouldn't need to swap cables. - Dan Phillips From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Wed Sep 8 13:36:14 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.62 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 13:35 PDT Received: from 141.110.8.15 by scratchy.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.23) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 13:35 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA07421; Wed, 8 Sep 93 16:26:50 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C8E6D81@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Wed, 08 Sep 93 16:40:49 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: TEST - IGNORE Date: Wed, 08 Sep 93 16:33:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C8E6D81@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 2 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 From vitalink.com!Tom.Lojewski Wed Sep 8 13:47:46 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.240.17.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 93 13:47 PDT Received: from maya.IS.Vitalink.COM by mail-relay.Vitalink.COM with SMTP id AA16316 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:45:53 -0700 Received: by maya.IS.Vitalink.COM (5.67-V2.1-X500e/V2.1-X500e) id AA25794; Wed, 8 Sep 93 13:41:05 -0700 From: Tom.Lojewski@vitalink.com (Tom Lojewski) Message-Id: <9309082041.AA25794@maya.IS.Vitalink.COM> Subject: Loading banks via MIDI (fwd) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:41:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1355 Please delete Erik Murrey (ejm@Vitalink.COM) from this mailing list. Sumit Das said: > From das@eecs.uic.edu Wed Sep 8 12:11:01 1993 > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 13:42:06 -0500 (CDT) > From: Sumit Das > Subject: Loading banks via MIDI > To: EPS info net > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi all. I am using an EPS 16+ rack-mount unit, and running with software > I have written myself. I periodically need to load collections of > instruments from the SCSI disk. > > Right now, I have to load one instrument at a time, and put in a wait > loop for however long I estimate the instrument will take to load. This > is because the EPS does not seem to send an acknowledge when it has > completed the load, and also the OS I have does not allow loading banks via > program change, only by the front panel. This is kludgey to say the least. > > Can I either get the sampler to tell me when it is done loading the sample, > OR load an entire bank??? Every time I edit a sample, I have to make > guesses at how long the load will take, and if I guess too short, the > sampler loses the next message... > > Thanks in advance, > > -smeet > > > Tom Lojewski - Network Systems Corporation - Fremont, California From vader.egr.uri.edu!kennedyj Thu Sep 9 08:29:21 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.128.50.80 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Sep 93 08:29 PDT Received: by vader.egr.uri.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05204; Thu, 9 Sep 1993 11:29:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 11:29:04 -0400 From: kennedyj@vader.egr.uri.edu (John Kennedy) Message-Id: <9309091529.AA05204@vader.egr.uri.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: cdroms a FAQ ( article 5054) within the newsgoup alt.cd-rom has quite a complete listing cdroms and topics for anyone whom may be interested. Later J. From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Thu Sep 9 15:02:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Sep 93 15:02 PDT Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.2-10 #3290) id <01H2R4YAYPWG001905@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Thu, 9 Sep 1993 18:02:15 EDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H2R4NMSVV40013Z7@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Thu, 9 Sep 1993 17:57:26 EST Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1993 17:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: Lugwrench! Subject: OK to load while playing via MIDI . . . To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H2R4NMT5IA0013Z7@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, A while ago (26 Jul 93) Greg Winer asked: >OK, one more question. We all know the EPS can load insturments while you're >playing another, but can anyone attest to the reliability of loading while >playing the EPS over MIDI? I plan on having a drummer play samples via MIDI >and I hope to be able to load other kits in while he's playing. Anyone tried >this yet? I hope this isn't too late to help, but I've loaded instruments in while a sequencer (software in an Atari 1040) played the already loaded instruments. With no trouble. Hope this helps! Ted Potter From uunet.UU.NET!korgrd!korgrd.com!dan Thu Sep 9 19:16:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Sep 93 19:16 PDT Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA19126; Thu, 9 Sep 93 22:16:02 -0400 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp4.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 221453.8991; Thu, 9 Sep 1993 22:14:53 EDT Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00420; Thu, 9 Sep 93 19:00:43 PDT Message-Id: <9309100200.AA00420@korgrd.com> Date: 9 Sep 1993 19:05:43 -0800 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: OK to load while playing To: "Ensoniq User's Group" Reply to: RE>OK to load while playing vi Lugwrench (Ted Potter) writes: % Hi all, % % A while ago (26 Jul 93) Greg Winer asked: % % >OK, one more question. We all know the EPS can load insturments while you're % >playing another, but can anyone attest to the reliability of loading while % >playing the EPS over MIDI? I plan on having a drummer play samples via MIDI % >and I hope to be able to load other kits in while he's playing. Anyone tried % >this yet? % % I hope this isn't too late to help, but I've loaded instruments in while % a sequencer (software in an Atari 1040) played the already loaded instruments. % % With no trouble. I've done this too, and it has usually worked fine. The only problem that I had was that, on my old EPS classic (moved on to a 16+ now), loading would kill voices that were sounding during the load command only. That is, the load command would come in, currently sounding voices would be killed, and then all would work fine again as the instrument was loading from disk. The only time that this was a problem was during a small video project in which I had a long, ambient sound playing for 30 seconds or so, which would die off very noticeably when a sample was loaded. As long as I *started* the load before playing, however, everything would work fine - I used to do this live all the time, playing one instrument on the keyboard with my Mac playing several others via MIDI, loading the next song's samples from disk while playing (and that was from floppy, before I got my hard drive!). I had a non-Ensoniq SCSI interface, though, so perhaps users of other SCSI mods have different stories... - Dan Phillips From SDSC.EDU!pauls Sat Sep 11 12:06:49 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.17.46.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 11 Sep 93 12:05 PDT Received: from bambam.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.8) id AA02682; Sat, 11 Sep 93 12:06:26 PDT Received: by bambam.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/1.7-client) id AA03811; Sat, 11 Sep 93 12:05:52 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 11:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Bishop Skibitzke Subject: Samplevision...I got it... To: mailinglist EPS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII And now I dont know what to do with it. Well, not really. It turns out I cannot use the MIDI device on my SoundBlaster Pro with it, which means I have to shell out another $60.00 for this Roland MPU-401 compatible MIDI interface. In addition, I dont know where I can get a program that converts .AIFF to this .SMP soundfile format that it only accepts. First, I was wondering if anyone knows of an AIFtoSMP converter, and second, I was hoping the other guy with Samplevision out there would confirm that this software is going to be worth the extra $60 I'm about to shell out for this. As far as I can tell, it seems to be quite a capable program. I must admit, though that its interface would have been better if done in MS-Windows, instead of the inelegance of this GEM system GUI. But, hell, if it lets me load sounds directly from the EPS over MIDI, modify them, and send them back, I'll overlook the GUI. +******************************************************************************+ = Paul Skibitzke (P. FAuST) = = San Diego Supercomputer Center = = Sonification Project = = pauls@sdsc.edu = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= = "Helping you to help me, to help myself." = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= From egr.msu.edu!reed Sat Sep 11 21:38:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 35.8.8.61 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 11 Sep 93 21:38 PDT Received: from frith.egr.msu.edu by egr.msu.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA19066; Sun, 12 Sep 93 00:38:26 -0400 Received: by frith.egr.msu.edu (5.61/SMI-4.0) id AA19304; Sun, 12 Sep 93 00:38:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 93 00:38:24 -0400 From: reed@egr.msu.edu Message-Id: <9309120438.AA19304@frith.egr.msu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Mac Update needed! Could someone fill me in on what's been happening with the trading of samples via ftp across the net? The last time I was a member of this list (approx 1.5 yrs ago), it was just getting started and it seemed primarily based around IBM's. Has anything been done in terms of mac software for formatting eps disks? Or all the good little utilities that were available for the ibm, are there now equivalents for the mac? If someone could send me a FAQ or if another mac guy out there has been active in swapping files I would be interested in hearing from you! Thanks alot!! reed@egr.msu.edu From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Mon Sep 13 05:57:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 93 05:57 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA05669; Mon, 13 Sep 93 08:48:24 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C949A00@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Mon, 13 Sep 93 09:04:16 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: OK to load while playing via MIDI . Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 09:02:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C949A00@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 41 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Actually, It's not too late. The show is this Thursday. I opted, however to load all of the samples into one insturment, instead of trying to load things between songs. This simplified things because the MIDI device I was using (Alesis D4) can only transmit on one MIDI channel. All I did was to remap the drum notes on the D4 to address certain sections of the keyboard. The only problem I've had is that the insturment is so big, that I've had an uncommon amount of disk errors (WRITE VERIFY ERROR). Ususally though on the second try, it saves O.K. I think this is an indicatior to me to clean my FD ASAP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPLY FROM: Winer, Greg Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1993 17:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: Lugwrench! Subject: OK to load while playing via MIDI . . . Hi all, A while ago (26 Jul 93) Greg Winer asked: >OK, one more question. We all know the EPS can load insturments while you're >playing another, but can anyone attest to the reliability of loading while >playing the EPS over MIDI? I plan on having a drummer play samples via MIDI >and I hope to be able to load other kits in while he's playing. Anyone tried >this yet? I hope this isn't too late to help, but I've loaded instruments in while a sequencer (software in an Atari 1040) played the already loaded instruments. With no trouble. Hope this helps! Ted Potter From babylon.uchicago.edu!smutko Mon Sep 13 08:08:18 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.135.4.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 93 08:08 PDT Received: from babylon.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:08:00 CDT Received: by babylon.uchicago.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07536; Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:08:43 CDT Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:08:43 CDT From: smutko@babylon.uchicago.edu (Mike Smutko) Message-Id: <9309131508.AA07536@babylon.uchicago.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: FlashBank cards Greetings... I've been thinking about getting a 1 Meg FlashBank card for my 16+. The problem is that when I tried to order one from my local dealer, he told me that Ensoniq has discontinued these cards and that the only way I could get one would be to call around and see if someone had one sitting on a shelf somewhere. Well, I called a few places and got very different prices. My dealer originally told me the 1 M card would cost $150 + installation (before he found out Ensoniq didn't have any more...). Sam Ash wanted $400, and Thoroughbred in FL said they could get me a third-party card for $190. Has anyone out there added a Flash card to their keyboard? How much did you pay? Did you install it yourself? (I know you're only supposed to be able to buy them from a service center, but I don't want to ship my keyboard to Sam Ash to have them do it (not knocking Sam Ash--I just don't want to pay all the shipping, etc....) Besides, I work in a lab full of electronic test equipment & other goodies. I assume installation is no more than a few screws and adding a ribbon cable or two. Is this totally naive of me??) Finally, do the people who have them really like them, or is this something I can live without (I don't have a SCSI interface, but I do have the memory expander)? Thanks for any help you can provide... Mike Smutko smutko@babylon.uchicago.edu From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Mon Sep 13 10:01:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:01 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24831; Mon, 13 Sep 93 10:01:26 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 09:57:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: FlashBank cards To: Mike Smutko Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9309131508.AA07536@babylon.uchicago.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Sep 1993, Mike Smutko wrote: > > > Greetings... I've been thinking about getting a 1 Meg FlashBank card > for my 16+. The problem is that when I tried to order one from my local > dealer, he told me that Ensoniq has discontinued these cards and that > the only way I could get one would be to call around and see if someone > had one sitting on a shelf somewhere. Well, I called a few places and > got very different prices. My dealer originally told me the 1 M card > would cost $150 + installation (before he found out Ensoniq didn't have > any more...). Sam Ash wanted $400, and Thoroughbred in FL said they > could get me a third-party card for $190. > > Has anyone out there added a Flash card to their keyboard? How much > did you pay? Did you install it yourself? (I know you're only supposed > to be able to buy them from a service center, but I don't want to ship > my keyboard to Sam Ash to have them do it (not knocking Sam Ash--I just > don't want to pay all the shipping, etc....) Besides, I work in a lab > full of electronic test equipment & other goodies. I assume installation > is no more than a few screws and adding a ribbon cable or two. Is this > totally naive of me??) Finally, do the people who have them really > like them, or is this something I can live without (I don't have a > SCSI interface, but I do have the memory expander)? > > Thanks for any help you can provide... > > Mike Smutko > smutko@babylon.uchicago.edu > > I was talking with Maaartist about 6 months ago about their flashbanks. They were selling for 150, but you needed to install them yourself. Unfortunately, if you have a 16+ which didn't have high enough version ROM the EPS would not recognize the bank. The install process is really easy if everything is straight in the EPS, and you get the right parts from the vendor. My experience with SCSI, Expander card and flashbank installs has been if *everything* is included, and nasty things like ROM versions are ok, normal care allows success. Static protection a must, of course. From SDSC.EDU!pauls Mon Sep 13 12:38:37 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.17.46.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 93 12:38 PDT Received: from pebbles.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.8) id AA16259; Mon, 13 Sep 93 12:38:56 PDT Received: by pebbles.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/1.7-client) id AA14231; Mon, 13 Sep 93 12:38:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 12:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Bishop Skibitzke Subject: Price estimate anyone? To: mailinglist EPS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII With all this talk about the flash ROM, I've been thinking about gear that might enhance my EPS setup. Can anyone give me some ideas of what getting the SCSI interface and harddrive for my EPS16+ would cost me? +******************************************************************************+ = Paul Skibitzke (P. FAuST) = = San Diego Supercomputer Center = = Sonification Project = = pauls@sdsc.edu = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= = "Helping you to help me, to help myself." = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Mon Sep 13 17:09:57 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 93 17:09 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27337; Mon, 13 Sep 93 17:10:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 17:09:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Maartists To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Heck, now that I have opened my trap about these guys, I tried their number and get a residence. I looked in a recent manufacturers index and have the most current number. Any ideas out there? Their 2x memory cards were very popular a few years ago for the classic and the +. From horde Tue Sep 14 10:41:50 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 14 Sep 93 10:41 PDT Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 10:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: Moderator on Vacation...(sorta) To: eps@reed.edu, paradise-workers@reed.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From Sept 16th until Sept 22nd I'll be flying south for a business trip. Going to be installing computers at two high schools (one in Albequerque NM the other in Glendale AZ) and hooking them up to the INTERNET. So don't be surprised if requests get slowed down for a bit. -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) Unix Systems Manager, Reed College From uu4.psi.com!witch!theend Wed Sep 15 09:27:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.181.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 09:26 PDT Received: from uu4.psi.com by theory.TC.Cornell.EDU with SMTP id AA12590 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 15 Sep 1993 10:34:29 -0400 Received: from witch.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA23204 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 10:14:41 -0400 Received: by theend.win.net; Tue, 14 Sep 1993 03:07:16 Mailer: WinNET Mail, v2.00 Message-Id: <204@theend.win.net> Reply-To: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 03:07:15 Subject: EPS-16+ prices From: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) Hey there, Does anyone out there have any ideas on what the going rate of an EPS-16+ with expanded RAM and SCSI would be? Apparently $1500 is way too high. Let me know what you guys think. Also, I've still got a PS Systems 44 Mb Removable hard drive if anyone is interested... Regards, Jay ===================================================================== Simon Insect-o-cutor He's losing his mind and he feels it Insect@TheEnd.Win.Net going. 70661.2661@CompuServe.Com From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Wed Sep 15 10:20:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 10:19 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06840; Wed, 15 Sep 93 10:19:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 10:18:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: EPS-16+ prices To: "Jay W. Bromley" Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <204@theend.win.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Sep 1993, Jay W. Bromley wrote: > Hey there, > Does anyone out there have any ideas on what the going rate of an > EPS-16+ with expanded RAM and SCSI would be? Apparently $1500 is way too > high. Let me know what you guys think. > > Also, I've still got a PS Systems 44 Mb Removable hard drive if anyone is > interested... > > Regards, > Jay > > > ===================================================================== > Simon Insect-o-cutor He's losing his mind and he feels it > Insect@TheEnd.Win.Net going. > 70661.2661@CompuServe.Com I don't think 1500 is too high. I'm selling my + with output expander, x2 memory and SCSI for 1800. From SDSC.EDU!pauls Wed Sep 15 13:39:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.17.46.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 13:38 PDT Received: from beast.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.8) id AA18367; Wed, 15 Sep 93 13:38:43 PDT Received: by beast.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/1.7-client) id AA01130; Wed, 15 Sep 93 13:38:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 13:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Bishop Skibitzke Subject: Things I'd like to look into buying... To: mailinglist EPS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm in the market (potentially) for a hard drive setup for my EPS16+. That means I need a SCSI interface as well as a hard drive. Any offers? +******************************************************************************+ = Paul Skibitzke (P. FAuST) = = San Diego Supercomputer Center = = Sonification Project = = pauls@sdsc.edu = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= = "Helping you to help me, to help myself." = =++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Wed Sep 15 13:56:17 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 13:55 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07997; Wed, 15 Sep 93 13:56:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 13:56:19 -0700 From: pbr@elwha.evergreen.edu (Peter Randlette) Message-Id: <9309152056.AA07997@elwha.evergreen.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, pauls@sdsc.edu Subject: Re: Things I'd like to look into buying... I have a SCSI interface on my 16+ I would sell. It has only been used to transfer samples of a grandmother's voice. (just kidding) Works great. Cost me 300 bucks. What do you think it is worth? From FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU!Todd_Kaufmann Wed Sep 15 17:16:03 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.110.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 17:15 PDT Received: from FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU by FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU id aa29993; 15 Sep 93 20:15:02 EDT To: alan@MSC.EDU Return-receipt-to: toad@cs.cmu.edu Reply-to: toad@cs.cmu.edu cc: eps@REED.EDU Subject: Re: ASR-10 new OS In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 07 Sep 93 15:03:11 -0600. <9309072003.AA12117@af.msc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 20:14:43 -0400 Message-ID: <29990.748138483@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Todd_Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU > I spotted an ad in the latest Keyboard that describes a new version > of the O.S. for the ASR-10. Apparently it allows the ASR-10 to act > as a DAT recorder, writing the inputs out to a SCSI hard disk. > It can bounce tracks, overdub, etc. Where was this? I bought it (October issue, Paul Schaffer on cover), and have scanned through at least three times, but haven't seen it. Where is it mentioned? -todd From msc.edu!alan Thu Sep 16 08:51:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 93 08:50 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA20306; Thu, 16 Sep 93 10:50:41 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA17025; Thu, 16 Sep 93 10:50:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 10:50:51 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9309161550.AA17025@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, toad@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: ASR-10 new OS >> I spotted an ad in the latest Keyboard that describes a new version >> of the O.S. for the ASR-10. Apparently it allows the ASR-10 to act >> as a DAT recorder, writing the inputs out to a SCSI hard disk. >> It can bounce tracks, overdub, etc. > >Where was this? I bought it (October issue, Paul Schaffer on cover), >and have scanned through at least three times, >but haven't seen it. > >Where is it mentioned? > > -todd It's on page 26 of the Paul Schaffer issue (Oct 93). Below is the complete the text of the ad. I hope nobody objects to my posting a `commercial' ad on the Internet. Just ignore the hype :-) The picture is of an ASR-10, with a sound studio superimposed so it looks like the studio is inside the ASR-10. ----------------------------------------------------------------- STUDIO INCLUDED Digital recording in a sampling/sequencing workstation. The ASR-10 Advanced Sampling Recorder is more than just a powerful sampler. Inside this unique keyboard and rack-mount are all the features of a digital recording studio--for a fraction of the cost. The new Version 2.0 software upgrade gives you two ways to add live recording to your sequenced tracks. DiskTracks(tm) provides two tracks of hard disk recording, with recording time limited only by the size of your hard disk. Don't have a hard disk? RAMTracks(tm) uses your ASR-10's internal memory for audio recording. Either way, you have complete control over track mix, panning, unlimited bounce downs, and audio event triggering. This is in addition to onboard effects processing and resampling features so you can sample through effects, record audio synchronized with the onboard sequencers, and more. And don't forget that the ASR-10 has a great sounding library of sounds and performance features that make it an exciting instrument to play. The ASR-10 is the only MIDI sampler to offer this combination of sound, sequenceing, performance features, and now--digital recording. Producing your own music has never been easier--all you need is an ASR-10 and your imagination. We'll provide the studio time. [ENSONIQ logo follows.] From FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU!Todd_Kaufmann Thu Sep 16 12:35:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.110.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 93 12:35 PDT Received: from FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU by FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU id aa02977; 16 Sep 93 15:35:04 EDT To: EPS List Reply-to: toad@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Consistent crash methods, followup Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 15:35:03 -0400 Message-ID: <2974.748208103@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Todd_Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU Here's a followup on my previous message about crashing: Before, I had my ASR-10 on a desktop, so there was little air circulation underneath. Since, I found a keyboard stand, and have it on there. No crashes for a couple weeks, and it's been on the whole time. So, methinks having it on a flat surface caused too much heat buildup, and made it unstable. -todd From undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjfennem Thu Sep 16 14:12:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.97.204.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 93 14:11 PDT Received: from cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca by undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca id <43803-1>; Thu, 16 Sep 1993 17:11:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 13:41:01 -0400 From: "Ryan J. Fennema" Sender: "Ryan J. Fennema" Reply-To: "Ryan J. Fennema" Subject: For USA readers ... To: "EPS (R. Fennema)" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII First off, I apologize to any international readers that get this note ... I have a favour to ask ... Could someone who is within a free phone call to Thoroughbred Music in Tampa, Florida ask the current price for a Maartists SCSI port for the 16+? I have an EPS16+ with Maartists Memory expansion ... all from Thoroughbred. Good folk to deal with ... ask for Brad or Rob. Thanks in advance, ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= __ ___ /__) /__/ /__/ /\ / Ryan J. Fennema rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca / \ __/ / / / \/ University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada From casa.Stanford.EDU!wesley Thu Sep 16 23:31:59 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 36.125.0.127 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 93 23:30 PDT Received: by casa.Stanford.EDU (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA25435; Thu, 16 Sep 93 23:18:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 23:18:05 -0700 From: Jeff Taylor Message-Id: <9309170618.AA25435@casa.Stanford.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS&SCSI I'm looking for someone who is an expert in SCSI and the EPS 16+. I'm trying to troubleshoot the connection to my Macintosh IIci. When using alchemy or soundtools it seems that I cannot get a connection to the EPS. I've tried multiple cables, and numerous configurations.. None of which worked.. Here is my system: Mac IIci an internal 400mb HP drive w/ SCSI II option (which I belive is disabled) and an external 1.2g drive from storage dimensions..(which also is SCSI II capable..however, I'm not too sure if the option is engaged or not because I don't have any technical specs for the drive (SAMS)) I've tried removing one HD in the SCSI chain and that didn't help.. Hell, I've tried just about everything short of calling Ensoniq.. If you have any experience/ideas that might help.. please let me know.. other wise my scsi interface will go unused and I'll continue using MIDI (ack!) to transfer my samples.. Wesley From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Fri Sep 17 09:04:29 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 17 Sep 93 09:04 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16973; Fri, 17 Sep 93 09:04:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: EPS&SCSI To: Jeff Taylor Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9309170618.AA25435@casa.Stanford.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 16 Sep 1993, Jeff Taylor wrote: > > I'm looking for someone who is an expert in SCSI and the EPS 16+. I'm trying > to troubleshoot the connection to my Macintosh IIci. When using alchemy or > soundtools it seems that I cannot get a connection to the EPS. I've tried > multiple cables, and numerous configurations.. None of which worked.. > Here is my system: > > Mac IIci > an internal 400mb HP drive w/ SCSI II option (which I belive is disabled) > and an external 1.2g drive from storage dimensions..(which also is SCSI II > capable..however, I'm not too sure if the option is engaged or not because I > don't have any technical specs for the drive (SAMS)) > > I've tried removing one HD in the SCSI chain and that didn't help.. > > Hell, I've tried just about everything short of calling Ensoniq.. > > If you have any experience/ideas that might help.. please let me know.. other > wise my scsi interface will go unused and I'll continue using MIDI (ack!) to > transfer my samples.. > > Wesley When I first tried to eps classic with SCSI, the thing which most screwed me up was the cable itself. I ordered a SCSI cable but got a centronics printer cable instead from our wonderful maintenance group. They didn't know the difference from a DB25-Centronics 50 pin parallel printer cable and a SCSI cable, which is MUCH more highly grounded, shielded, etc. After many sessions with massive hair pulling, I replaced the cable and it worked perfectly. I experienced a brief flash of great joy and total piss-off as a computer geek had suggested swaping cables early on, but I insisted, "Hey, it's brand new!" The other thing with sounddesigner is that their MIDI/SCSI ID# set up starts at 0, or one, or is some how wierd, so to connect my EPS on MIDI channel 1, the device ID # was 2, and the SCSI ID was 3. I check that problem by incrementing the device ID# from 0 up until when I ask for a download, the EPS panel flashes, and the MIDI light goes on, and it asks for the OS disc. That is the right MIDI channel. THen start incrementing the SCSI ID until the transfer works. I assume your SYS EX is on. I know nothing about SCSI-2, but assume the worst! Try your machine on someones Mac with normal vanilla SCSI to make sure it is not some wierd SCSI-2 incompatibility. (total shot in the dark..) The other possibility is a bad SCSI adaptor. Have you tried hooking up JUST a SCSI drive to the EPS, and let the EPS try to talk with just a drive. That is one way to test if the drive-EPS connection works per original specs. I would love advice on ASR to Soundesigner advice. My system hangs after I get the transfer screen, and then those damn SCSI Communication errors messages pop up. Boy, after the tabasco sauce and the ice picks, it really hurts!! Any wisdom out there? From leland.Stanford.EDU!she Fri Sep 17 17:54:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 36.21.0.132 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 17 Sep 93 17:54 PDT Received: from localhost (she@localhost) by cardinal.Stanford.EDU (8.5/8.5) id RAA07412; Fri, 17 Sep 1993 17:54:34 -0700 From: Jessica Grace Wing Message-Id: <199309180054.RAA07412@cardinal.Stanford.EDU> Subject: looking for output expander To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 17:54:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 171 I'm looking to buy an 8x output expander for a 16+. If anyone has one they want to sell or has any ideas about where to get one, please e-mail me. thanksabunch, jessica From acs.bu.edu!jna Fri Sep 17 23:21:11 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.197.152.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 17 Sep 93 23:21 PDT Received: from ACS2.BU.EDU by acs.bu.edu (5.61+++/AIX-3.2) id AA89517; Sat, 18 Sep 93 02:19:28 -0400 From: jna@acs.bu.edu (John Adams) Received: by acs2.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA165984; Sat, 18 Sep 93 02:19:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 93 02:19:09 -0400 Message-Id: <9309180619.AA165984@acs2.bu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, she@leland.stanford.edu Subject: Re: looking for output expander I need an output expander for an eps/classic. lemme know if anyone has one of those too.. :) -john From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Sat Sep 18 11:46:59 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 18 Sep 93 11:46 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA28285 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Sat, 18 Sep 1993 14:46:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 14:43:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: looking for output expander To: John Adams Cc: eps@reed.edu, she@leland.stanford.edu In-Reply-To: <9309180619.AA165984@acs2.bu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I too am in search of an output expander for my EPS. One that doesn't cost a mint. BTW: Why can't you just run pair of wires out the back of the Output Expander port? What does the output expander ACTUALLY do? It seems a bit silly to pay $200 or so for nothing more than a box that taps those pairs. Joe -<><><><><><><><><)-]187-Phat_Beats_For_Phat_Cities-(><><><><><><><><><><><>- From sounds.wa.com!brianw Sat Sep 18 14:34:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 18 Sep 93 14:34 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA04110 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Reed.edu!eps); Sat, 18 Sep 1993 14:34:05 -0700 Received: by sounds (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA04802; Sat, 18 Sep 93 14:26:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 93 14:26:23 -0700 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9309182126.AA04802@sounds> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: EPS Mailing List Subject: Re: EPS&SCSI Cc: Jeff Taylor Reply-To: Brian Willoughby Jeff, Peter covered a lot of possibilities, and his advice is sound. I only have one other thing to suggest, and that is that you might want to think about termination. Are the internal drives in the Mac terminated? Do you think you could locate a 25-pin SCSI terminator and try it on the end of the cable that plugs into the EPS? The longer you make your SCSI system (e.g. by adding the EPS to the Mac and its drives), the more likely it is that you'll need to pay close attention to termination. When I first got a SCSI drive and cable for my EPS, only two out of three cables worked. So I just returned the cables that didn't work. Later, I found out that a new, larger drive for my EPS required termination, because it was not terminated internally. The funny thing was that, without termination, sometimes the drive would work, and sometimes it wouldn't. I thought that if I could get it to work without termination, then it must not need it, but I soon found out that the new drive *always* worked when there was a terminator - so that told me my first assumption was wrong (and made me finally check to see if the drive was internally terminated). Concerning SCSI II, I would assume that the Mac OS does not implement SCSI II yet. If the drive is working with the Mac, then SCSI II is probably disabled. That's just a guess, though, so don't take my word for it. Brian Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette To: Jeff Taylor Cc: eps@reed.edu On Thu, 16 Sep 1993, Jeff Taylor wrote: > Mac IIci > an internal 400mb HP drive w/ SCSI II option (which I belive is disabled) > and an external 1.2g drive from storage dimensions..(which also is SCSI II > capable..however, I'm not too sure if the option is engaged or not because I > don't have any technical specs for the drive (SAMS)) > ... > If you have any experience/ideas that might help.. please let me know.. other > wise my scsi interface will go unused and I'll continue using MIDI (ack!) to > transfer my samples.. > > Wesley ... I know nothing about SCSI-2, but assume the worst! Try your machine on someones Mac with normal vanilla SCSI to make sure it is not some wierd SCSI-2 incompatibility. (total shot in the dark..) ... From acs.bu.edu!jna Sat Sep 18 23:34:00 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.197.152.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 18 Sep 93 23:32 PDT Received: from ACS2.BU.EDU by acs.bu.edu (5.61+++/AIX-3.2) id AA209185; Sun, 19 Sep 93 02:31:18 -0400 From: jna@acs.bu.edu (John Adams) Received: by acs2.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA53846; Sun, 19 Sep 93 02:30:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 93 02:30:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9309190630.AA53846@acs2.bu.edu> To: jna@acs.bu.edu, raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us Subject: Re: looking for output expander Cc: eps@reed.edu, she@leland.stanford.edu The output expander is extremely complicated.. what it is is a set of 8 sample and hold op-amps. (this allows the EPS to use just one set of DAC's to generate 8 outputs.) Considerably cheaper than using 8 12bit DAC's. The other intersting thing is that, since the entire Output expander is analog, and not digital it should theorically work with any EPS machine. The EPS picks off a sample and hold amp , tosses a bit of the signal there , and then moves on. There was a more detailed explaination posted here months ago, but i don't know if it still exists. -john From uu4.psi.com!witch!theend Sun Sep 19 04:07:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 09:26 PDT Received: from uu4.psi.com by theory.TC.Cornell.EDU with SMTP id AA12590 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 15 Sep 1993 10:34:29 -0400 Received: from witch.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA23204 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 93 10:14:41 -0400 Received: by theend.win.net; Tue, 14 Sep 1993 03:07:16 Mailer: WinNET Mail, v2.00 Message-Id: <204@theend.win.net> Reply-To: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 03:07:15 Subject: EPS-16+ prices From: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) Hey there, Does anyone out there have any ideas on what the going rate of an EPS-16+ with expanded RAM and SCSI would be? Apparently $1500 is way too high. Let me know what you guys think. Also, I've still got a PS Systems 44 Mb Removable hard drive if anyone is interested... Regards, Jay ===================================================================== Simon Insect-o-cutor He's losing his mind and he feels it Insect@TheEnd.Win.Net going. 70661.2661@CompuServe.Com From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Sun Sep 19 21:08:10 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 19 Sep 93 21:07 PDT Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <291929>; Mon, 20 Sep 1993 00:07:49 -0400 Received: by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14317; Mon, 20 Sep 93 00:07:41 EDT Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 00:07:41 -0400 From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9309200407.AA14317@sol4.cse.psu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: INSTEDIT.ZIP (incl. source) at archive For those waiting, it's finally there. There's a header file (C++) which should cover most questions about the instrument file format (I hope?). -- Mike From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Sun Sep 19 21:42:03 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 19 Sep 93 21:41 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA00577; Sun, 19 Sep 93 21:42:13 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 21:38:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: EPS&SCSI To: Brian Willoughby Cc: EPS Mailing List , Jeff Taylor In-Reply-To: <9309182126.AA04802@sounds> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 18 Sep 1993, Brian Willoughby wrote: > > Jeff, > > Peter covered a lot of possibilities, and his advice is sound. I only have one > other thing to suggest, and that is that you might want to think about > termination. Are the internal drives in the Mac terminated? Do you think you > could locate a 25-pin SCSI terminator and try it on the end of the cable that > plugs into the EPS? The longer you make your SCSI system (e.g. by adding the > EPS to the Mac and its drives), the more likely it is that you'll need to pay > close attention to termination. > > When I first got a SCSI drive and cable for my EPS, only two out of three cables > worked. So I just returned the cables that didn't work. Later, I found out > that a new, larger drive for my EPS required termination, because it was not > terminated internally. The funny thing was that, without termination, sometimes > the drive would work, and sometimes it wouldn't. I thought that if I could get > it to work without termination, then it must not need it, but I soon found out > that the new drive *always* worked when there was a terminator - so that told me > my first assumption was wrong (and made me finally check to see if the drive was > internally terminated). > > Concerning SCSI II, I would assume that the Mac OS does not implement SCSI II > yet. If the drive is working with the Mac, then SCSI II is probably disabled. > That's just a guess, though, so don't take my word for it. > > Brian > > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) > From: Peter Randlette > To: Jeff Taylor > Cc: eps@reed.edu > > On Thu, 16 Sep 1993, Jeff Taylor wrote: > > Mac IIci > > > an internal 400mb HP drive w/ SCSI II option (which I belive is disabled) > > and an external 1.2g drive from storage dimensions..(which also is SCSI II > > capable..however, I'm not too sure if the option is engaged or not because I > > don't have any technical specs for the drive (SAMS)) > > ... > > If you have any experience/ideas that might help.. please let me know.. other > > wise my scsi interface will go unused and I'll continue using MIDI (ack!) to > > transfer my samples.. > > > > > Wesley > ... > I know nothing about SCSI-2, but assume the worst! Try your machine on > someones Mac with normal vanilla SCSI to make sure it is not some wierd > SCSI-2 incompatibility. (total shot in the dark..) > ... I also farted around with the termination and had apparently improperly terminated systems work when proper wouldn't. The EPS 16+ adaptors I have installed (4 or so) have always had termination resistors on them. Mac SCSI drives are ALWAYS supose to be terminated internally. So the rules are, the ends of the daisy chain need termination, the middle members do not. Anyway, did anything work? From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Sun Sep 19 21:44:46 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 19 Sep 93 21:44 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA00601; Sun, 19 Sep 93 21:45:02 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 21:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: looking for output expander To: John Adams Cc: jna@acs.bu.edu, raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us, eps@reed.edu, she@leland.stanford.edu In-Reply-To: <9309190630.AA53846@acs2.bu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 19 Sep 1993, John Adams wrote: > The output expander is extremely complicated.. what it is is a set of 8 > sample and hold op-amps. (this allows the EPS to use just one set of DAC's to > generate 8 outputs.) Considerably cheaper than using 8 12bit DAC's. > > The other intersting thing is that, since the entire Output expander is > analog, and not digital it should theorically work with any EPS machine. > > The EPS picks off a sample and hold amp , tosses a bit of the signal there , > and then moves on. There was a more detailed explaination posted here months ago, > but i don't know if it still exists. > > -john BEWARE BEWARE, the experience I have had indicates that the expander should be one intended for the sampler. Rumor has it that the ASR is different internally, and I tried the 16+ expander on the asr. Made some *very wierd* noises, so I bought the proper one. Happyness prevailed. From elwha.evergreen.edu!pbr Sun Sep 19 21:57:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.211.16.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 19 Sep 93 21:56 PDT Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA00698; Sun, 19 Sep 93 21:57:22 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 21:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Randlette Subject: Re: INSTEDIT.ZIP (incl. source) at archive To: Michael Chen Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9309200407.AA14317@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Sep 1993, Michael Chen wrote: > For those waiting, it's finally there. There's a header file (C++) > which should cover most questions about the instrument file format > (I hope?). > > -- Mike I'm still waiting patently for someone to whip out a Mac based file read/write app for EPS/ASR files. The world will flock to your doorstep. From uunet.UU.NET!korgrd!korgrd.com!dan Mon Sep 20 11:56:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 20 Sep 93 11:56 PDT Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA04795; Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:55:39 -0400 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp6.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 144600.8841; Mon, 20 Sep 1993 14:46:00 EDT Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26567; Mon, 20 Sep 93 11:12:34 PDT Message-Id: <9309201812.AA26567@korgrd.com> Date: 20 Sep 1993 11:15:19 -0800 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: Re- looking for output e To: eps@reed.edu Reply to: RE>Re: looking for output expa Joe LeSesne writes: > I too am in search of an output expander for my EPS. > One that doesn't cost a mint. BTW: Why can't you just run pair of wires > out the back of the Output Expander port? What does the output expander > ACTUALLY do? It seems a bit silly to pay $200 or so for nothing more than > a box that taps those pairs. I am told that the EPS classic's expander port #005#is a multiplexed analog output. The output expander de-multiplexes the signal. Because of this multiplexing, BTW, the fidelity is non-optimal - lower than that of the main outputs. The 16+, on the other hand, runs a digital signal to the expander, which then provides another 6 channels of D/A. - Dan Phillips From cs.ucsb.edu!cosmo Mon Sep 20 13:30:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 20 Sep 93 13:30 PDT Received: from engineering.ucsb.edu (cs.ucsb.edu) by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA06092 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.1-sun Mon, 20 Sep 93 13:30:11 PDT for eps@reed.edu Received: from yogi.ucsb-cmpsci (yogi.ucsb.edu) by engineering.ucsb.edu (4.1/UCSBGENERIC.4) id AA00247 to eps@reed.edu; Mon, 20 Sep 93 13:30:08 PDT Received: by yogi.ucsb-cmpsci (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00998; Mon, 20 Sep 1993 13:29:42 +0800 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 13:29:42 +0800 From: cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin) Message-Id: <9309202029.AA00998@yogi.ucsb-cmpsci> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Cheap flashbanks? Content-Length: 311 There has been some talk on the mailing list recently about $150 flashbanks for the EPS-16+. I called around locally (in San Diego, CA), and the best deal I could find was a $300 version from a company called "PS Systems." Can someone point me to a better deal? Thanks, Boris boris.burtin@sandiegoca.ncr.com From ACAD.DRAKE.EDU!AAR001 Mon Sep 20 14:11:27 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.84.11.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 20 Sep 93 14:11 PDT Received: from ACAD.DRAKE.EDU by ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #2922) id <01H36DXSXH2S00CAY4@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>; Mon, 20 Sep 1993 16:08:54 CDT Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 16:08:54 -0500 (CDT) From: SIR FIREFROST OF THE DRAKE DIGITAL UNDERGROUND Subject: Re: Deteriorating EPS. To: EPS@REED.EDU Message-id: <01H36DXSXH2U00CAY4@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"EPS@REED.EDU" X-VMS-Cc: AAR001 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Just an update on my quest to Fix my ERROR-Ridden EPS Clasic. My dealer just received the new ROM Update for my EPS. I was using V1.2 Roms and am now going to jump to the most current (V2.2?). The upgrade was only $29.95 (and took only 9 months to order...). This should allow me to run a RAM Version Higher than V1.85 withoug crashing! (I've been using V2.20 anyway and ensoniq said that was probably half the problem). After talking to ensoniq for several patient hours, they gave the chip upgrade a %50 chance of solving my problems. They also gave a 49% possibilty to a power supply failure of some kind (Thanks to Jay Stelly for suggesting this before they could). SO anyway, hupefully I'll be able to break the 15 minute operation barrier soon. I'll let you know how it turns out when it works normally again. Thanks everybody! Andy Russell AAR001@Acad.Drake.Edu P.S. Anybody know how to get the Stripped Hex Screw out of my Flip top... (They were stripped when I bought it and I've never been able to open it!) From sounds.wa.com!brianw Mon Sep 20 16:58:23 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 20 Sep 93 16:58 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA02269 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Reed.edu!eps); Mon, 20 Sep 1993 16:57:58 -0700 Received: by sounds (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA22627; Mon, 20 Sep 93 16:33:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 16:33:15 -0700 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9309202333.AA22627@sounds> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: "Dan" Subject: Re: looking for output expander Cc: EPS Mailing List Reply-To: Brian Willoughby | Date: 20 Sep 1993 11:15:19 -0800 | From: "Dan" | Subject: Re: Re- looking for output e | | I am told that the EPS classic's expander port #005#is a | multiplexed analog output. The output expander de-multiplexes the | signal. Because of this multiplexing, BTW, the fidelity is | non-optimal - lower than that of the main outputs. According to the circuit diagram I saw in the Transoniq Hacker, the main outputs are multiplexed just the same. Instead of the 8 mono outputs available on the expander, the 8 internal outputs are pre-panned and mixed to stereo. Of course, all multiplexed signals need to be filtered to remove sampling noise from the D/A, so perhaps the expander has analog filters which are inferior to the main outputs. BTW, at the correct sampling rate, there is no difference between a direct D/A output and a multiplexed output (except that the sampling rate must be 8 times higher to handle 8 channels). It's still a signal which has been approximated by PCM == Pulse Code Modulation. | The 16+, on the other hand, runs a digital signal to the expander, | which then provides another 6 channels of D/A. I haven't seen the circuit diagram for the 16+, but I would be willing to bet that it is identical in concept to the Classic. The only differences are that the single D/A is 16-bit instead of 13-bit and the available sampling rates are different (some higher?). Its very likely that there are still 16 mono channels multiplexed into the D/A, but the 16+ arranges them in stereo pairs and has the software modified so that the user thinks of them in different ways. I really doubt that the 16+expander has any digital signals (except for the channel address bits). P.S. The Ensoniq output expanders employ balanced signals to cancel out switching noise from the operation of the multiplexing circuits. This means that the signal comes out on two lines instead of one, and there are twice as many demultiplexor circuits, but the quality is higher (the noise is lower, at least in theory). From ualr.edu!JABUSSEY Tue Sep 21 17:44:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Sep 93 17:44 PDT Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4503) id <01H3800VB2Z400008E@UALR.EDU>; Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:43:51 CDT Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 19:43:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: ASR-10 To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <930921194346.25202d72@ualr.edu> X-Envelope-to: eps@reed.edu Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Can I get one of you ASR-10 owners to upload the jazz organ and the upright bass from the disks that come with the ASR-10? I want to use them on the EPS classic so put them in Double sided , double density format. thanks, Jacque Bussey From mail.sas.upenn.edu!jleibovi Tue Sep 21 21:15:26 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.91.254.39 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Sep 93 21:15 PDT Received: from MAIL.SAS.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA27903; Wed, 22 Sep 93 00:15:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from [128.91.200.120] (TS6-52.UPENN.EDU) by mail.sas.upenn.edu id AA25015; Wed, 22 Sep 93 00:17:18 EDT Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 00:17:17 EDT Posted-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 93 00:17:17 EDT Message-Id: <9309220417.AA25015@mail.sas.upenn.edu> To: eps@reed.edu From: jleibovi@mail.sas.upenn.edu (John S. Leibovitz) please unsubscribe me from the eps mailing list. -john -- John S. Leibovitz jleibovi@mail.sas.upenn.edu From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Tue Sep 21 21:51:05 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Sep 93 21:50 PDT Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <293902>; Wed, 22 Sep 1993 00:50:24 -0400 Received: by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04399; Wed, 22 Sep 93 00:50:11 EDT From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9309220450.AA04399@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: ASR-10 To: JABUSSEY@ualr.edu (Hard On The Beaver) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 00:50:10 -0400 Cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) In-Reply-To: <930921194346.25202d72@ualr.edu>; from "Hard On The Beaver" at Sep 21, 93 8:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hard On The Beaver wrote: | |Can I get one of you ASR-10 owners to upload the jazz organ and the upright |bass from the disks that come with the ASR-10? I want to use them on the EPS |classic so put them in Double sided , double density format. | |thanks, | |Jacque Bussey Has it ever been decided whether exchanging the samples that come with the EPS/ASR series is OK? If so, why not put them ALL at the archive somewhere? -- Mike From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Thu Sep 23 05:42:16 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 23 Sep 93 05:41 PDT Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.2-10 #3290) id <01H3A5EVD9WG001UUJ@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 08:40:41 EDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H3A4N1XUNK001KY3@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 08:36:40 EST Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 08:36:40 -0500 (EST) From: Lugwrench! Subject: Problems using epsdisk 1.21c To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H3A4N1Y4AQ001KY3@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, A friend and I just spent a very frustrating evening of trying to get a downloaded sample onto an ensoniq disk. We used epsdisk v1.21 by the most god-like Michael Chen (aka Sh-- oops!), and it did some interesting things, but we didn't really know how to use it. So I have some questions: 1. Is there a FAQ for a procedure on the actual _steps_ to go through to get a sample from an IBM hard disk onto an Ensoniq floppy? 2. If so, could somebody kindly post it? (I'd go get it myself, but I have to ftp by mail. Fun.) 3. If not, could somebody post a short procedure to the list? I'd appreciate any help. Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lugwrench! | "I tried psychotherapy, TV, and beer; IN%"potter%Techdb | But sometimes I still feel like Van Gough's left ear" @Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.CA" | -- "Life Is A Rubber Rope", The Houseflies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Thu Sep 23 10:11:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 142.14.10.205 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 23 Sep 93 10:10 PDT Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.2-10 #3290) id <01H3AEUA3VNK0023TW@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 13:10:24 EDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX01) by KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01H3AEK9NXVK001KQS@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Thu, 23 Sep 1993 13:06:20 EST Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 13:06:20 -0500 (EST) From: Lugwrench! Subject: More questions about downloading and epsdisk! To: EPS@Reed.Edu Message-id: <01H3AEK9O7IQ001KQS@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello again, Thanks to Mike Chen, the knower of all things, the keeper of the sacred info, for his help. But we've still got some problems . . . The two problems we have are 1) there are files in the AIFF directory which we have managed to get onto an IBM disk (namely TECHNOBASS.AIFF) but when we used epsdisk to copy it onto an EPS disk, it seems to scramble the EPS directory on the disk. 2) we have .gkh files which have uncompressed in unix, but when we try copying them to anything else (i.e. VMS, IBM) we get a very small (obviously incorrect) file. We still have some other options with this, but if any of you folks could post methods you've had success with, we'd appreciate it. Again, thanks for any help. Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lugwrench! | "I tried psychotherapy, TV, and beer; IN%"potter%Techdb | But sometimes I still feel like Van Gough's left ear" @Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.CA" | -- "Life Is A Rubber Rope", The Houseflies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From newservr.engr.uidaho.edu!bblock Sun Sep 26 18:32:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.101.97.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 26 Sep 93 18:31 PDT Message-Id: Received: by newservr.engr.uidaho.edu (16.6/15.6) id AA12839; Sun, 26 Sep 93 18:32:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 26 Sep 93 18:32:29 -0700 From: brian block To: eps@reed.edu Subject: unsubscribe From vnet.IBM.COM!wlallen Mon Sep 27 18:31:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.239.48.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 27 Sep 93 18:31 PDT Message-Id: Received: from BLDFVM9 by vnet.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1249; Mon, 27 Sep 93 21:29:29 EDT Date: Mon, 27 Sep 93 19:32:31 MDT From: "Lynn Allen Dept:TN2 Phone:(303)924-4972" To: eps@reed.edu Subject: MAM Demo I have been trying to FTP the MAM1.GKH disk and write it to an EPS 16+ floppy and I am not having any luck. I have tried both EPSWRITE and EPSDISK and it always contains garbage in the directory after the 4th file. I am able to load the first 4 files into the EPS but it doesn't list any bank or sequence data on the disk. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The MAM2 and MAM3 disks seem to load OK but not MAM1. Is this an ASR10 demo? is the MAM1 file compressed in some way? Has anyone else tried FTPing it lately?? Thanks in advance for the help. From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Tue Sep 28 05:36:32 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.128.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 93 05:36 PDT Received: from perth.DIALix.oz.au (DIALix.oz.au [192.203.228.2]) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.1C/8.1) with SMTP id UAA04300; Tue, 28 Sep 1993 20:35:41 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.dialix.oz.auĝ A by perth.DIALix.oz.au with UUCP id AA22621 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for reed.edu!eps); Tue, 28 Sep 1993 20:35:35 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00bat; Tue, 28 Sep 93 20:33:06 PST Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 20:33:06 PST Message-Id: <9309290433.AA00bas@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Monthly Posting of FAQ THE EPS USERS SURVIVAL KIT Contents: EPS users mailing list. Transoniq Hacker information. Selected Software. Bug List. ********************** EPS users mailing list ************************* The EPS mailing list is for the discussion of the Ensoniq EPS family of digital sampling keyboards. Members post questions, answers, informal reviews, and other information. The mailing list includes nearly 115 men and women from North America, Europe, and Australia. Recently sample swapping (via e-mail and ftp) has started. Ask the group how to join in (PD software avaliable). All you need is a PC/Mac/Atari with a 3.5" drive and some way of getting files off the network into the PC /Mac/Atari. To subscribe to the list send your email details to: eps-request@reed.edu The address for the mailing list is: eps@reed.edu When you send email to that address, the machine there sends a copy to each individual on the list. If you have problems or questions about to using the list, send your query to one of these addresses: eps-request@reed.edu owner-eps@reed.edu Please don't send subscribe/unsunscribe requests to the list (eps@reed.edu). Archives of past discussions are available as compressed text files via anonymous ftp to ftp.reed.edu. The file(s) are in /pub/eps/digests, and were compressed using gnuzip. There are quite a few archives available in the format "eps-digestN.z" where N = (1,2,3...N) "eps-digest1.z" starts the archives and covers the period from November 1990 through to now. Our current ftp site is ftp.reed.edu and the subdirectories in this area are /pub/eps: /digests past mailing list messages /docs [also home to the Survival.kit] /incoming drop point for public domain EPS stuff /samples/PD /samples/aiff /samples/demo /samples/misc /samples/vfx /system-software /utils Drop Scott Fisher a line if you need further info... scott@psy.uwa.oz.au or steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au ************************* Transoniq Hacker ***************************** Transoniq Hacker (TH) is an independent users support magazine for Ensoniq products. It provides... * Reviews of samples and patches * Software Reviews * New products news * Free Patches (for Ensoniq Synths) * Phone network for free help * Programming tips * How-to articles * Questions and answers (The interface) * Free Classified adds * Interviews * ...and 3rd party company support i.e... Software, Memory Expanders, SCSI Drives etc. In the forum "The Interface" where letters get answered, not only by TH staff but "real" people at Ensoniq, who offer their services for this section. I have subscribed for 4 years now and all I can say is that you SHOULD subscribe, nothing else comes close to TH for supporting us EPS and Ensoniq users in general. TH provide a money back guarantee that if you do not think your subscription has paid for its self in 3 issues (1 a month) then you can claim back your subscription. Alternatively they offer a 3 month "skeptics" subscription offer. There is no-way (practically) that you will get your fingers burnt with them, if you don't like TH you get ALL your money back. First time subscribers get a special deal, 12 monthly issues for $18 US ($25 All others outside the USA) This is $5 off the subscription price. Special "skeptics" deal is 3 issues (3 months) for $5 US ($7 Non US). After the first year you revert to... $23/year (US$32 outside the US). HOW TO SUBSCRIBE? Three methods... 1) Mail your cheque (payable to "Transoniq Hacker") OR your (Mastercard/Visa) number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to... Transoniq Hacker 1402 SW Upland Drive, Portland, OR 97221. Phone: 503/227-6848 (8 a.m. to 9 p.m. PST). 2) Phone their TOLL-FREE 1-800-548-8925 (US only) and give your Mastercard/Visa number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to the answering machine (24 Hour service). 3) Alternatively and this is a real PLUS!! you can contact Eric (the publisher and owner of TH) via Compuserve on... 73260.3353@compuserve.com You can give your (Mastercard/Visa) details to him over the net, with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code. Why not drop him a line and have a chat about TH (say Scott sent you, Eric will go ... Eh? What? Who is that? :-) The other good thing about having email contact with TH is that you can send in letters/articles easily and quickly and have a chat to Eric at the same time. *************************** Selected Software ******************************** You are what you eat right? Well the EPS is what it eats too :-) Without good software the EPS\16 Plus ain't much use. Below are a selection of products that I have found make a difference to the EPS's appeal... Diskette Utilities: For EPS & PCs, Geibler enterprises Ensoniq Diskette Manager (EDM) is a good thing. It formats, copies and does just about everything to not only EPS disks but all Ensoniq Formats (Mirage, ESQ-80, VFX-SD, SD-1). This is also good for storing EPS disks on your PC'd hard disk in DOS format. Makes it easy to send EPS disks via the NET too. For more info, write to Geibler Enterprises 8038 Morgan Road Liverpool, N.Y. 13090 U.S.A. For EPS and ATARI, Steve Quartly has Share-Ware avaliable that he wrote. Does everything EDM does with EPS disks and MORE. Contact Steve at.. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au This is also available at our current ftp site. Effects (for 16 Plus): For the EPS 16 PLus, How long have you been waiting for Ensoniq to add some more FX algorithms to the unit? Waveboy industries have released a whole bunch (16) of new FX (yes brand new!) for the EPS 16 Plus. They load straight into the EPS FX chip (ESP chip) from diskette. One of the algorithms is a PITCH SHIFTER that lets you plug a mic into the EPS and use it as a LIVE FX unit. These FX are SIMPLY BRILLIANT!! For more info... Waveboy Industries. PO Box 233 Paoli PA, 19301 U.S.A. PH: (215) 251-9562. EPS and Midi programming: For those of you struggling with the EPS sysex and MIDI while trying to write your own code there is a whole bunch of EPS sysex routines written in turbo-C avaliable for anonymous ftp... AT: louie.udel.edu IN: /pub/midi/software/ibm The files are eps.README (presented below) and eps.tar.Z eps.README... >This is my library of EPS system-exclusive routines. It includes >routines that implement most of the SysEx messages defined in the Ensoniq >Performance Sampler Extern Command Specification. Those messages that are >not implemented can be simulated by using the Virtual Button Press message. >These routines were written in Turbo C, for the IBM PC and MPU-401, >which explains some of the identifiers. However, it should be simple enough >to port them to any other platform. All of the MPU-specific routines >are defined in 'mpu.c' and 'mpu.h'. There is some IBM-specific stuff in >'eps.c' and 'eps.h', too. These four files should be the only ones you >need to modify. > >I've also included 'epsl.lib', a Turbo C large model library, >containing all of this stuff, for those who can use it. > >If you find any bugs, have comments to make, or just want to send >me a line, I can be reached at arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov . ************************ EPS users bug list **************************** How many times have you seen ERROR 144 - REBOOT? What caused it? Well, Richard Hagen is the keeper of the EPS/EPS 16 PLus BUG LIST. So if you have any BUGS to report or you wan't to know if the BUG you have found is a rare and endangered species send email to... richard@cit.gu.edu.au. ************************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to gain by supporting the above groups, I am simply a satisfied customer, trying to help fellow EPS users. From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Tue Sep 28 06:39:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 93 06:39 PDT Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA27702; Tue, 28 Sep 93 09:38:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 09:38:10 -0400 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9309281338.AA27702@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, wlallen@vnet.ibm.com Subject: Re: MAM Demo Cc: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu In reply to Lynn Allen's post: I had problems with the MAM1.GKH disk (and not the others) too. The third (I think) file wouldn't load into my EPS16+. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mark Schneider University of Florida | | mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu 904-335-6511 (voice) | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Tue Sep 28 06:47:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 93 06:47 PDT Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA28026; Tue, 28 Sep 93 09:45:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 93 09:45:54 -0400 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9309281345.AA28026@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: richard@cit.gu.edu.au Cc: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu The monthly FAQ posting mentioned that richard@cit.gu.edu.au was keeping a list of EPS OS bugs causing the ERROR 144 message. I tried 2 different nameservers and none recognize the address cit.gu.edu.au. Does anyone know if that is the correct address? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mark Schneider University of Florida | | mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu 904-335-6511 (voice) | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Tue Sep 28 12:17:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 93 12:16 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA02935 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 28 Sep 1993 15:16:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 15:12:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Cubase --> EPS To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm using Cubase to sequence the EPS and I have had success in dumping sequences (one track at a time) into Cubase. What I now want to do is go the other way around. dump Cubase sequences into the EPS. I have not yet had any sucess. In fact it doesn't seem possible to record a sequence into the EPS sequencer from a remote controller. Please if you know a way to do this let me in on the secret. There certainly must be away. BTW: I am using the EPS classic (4X) Joe -<><><><><><><><><)-]187-Phat_Beats_For_Phat_Cities-(><><><><><><><><><><><>- | Sub.bass.Frequency.Percolator || ---------------------------------- From babylon.uchicago.edu!smutko Wed Sep 29 08:22:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.135.4.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 29 Sep 93 08:22 PDT Received: from babylon.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 29 Sep 93 10:22:18 CDT Received: by babylon.uchicago.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06330; Wed, 29 Sep 93 10:23:01 CDT Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 10:23:01 CDT From: smutko@babylon.uchicago.edu (Mike Smutko) Message-Id: <9309291523.AA06330@babylon.uchicago.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Flashbank summary About a month ago, I asked for information on adding Flashbank cards to an EPS 16+. I want to thank everyone who responded, and because there was some general interest, I thought I'd post a summary of what I've found out. First of all, Ensoniq has discontinued the Flashbanks. The only way to get one is find one on the back shelf of a music store somewhere or find a third-party manufacturer. The following stores said they had original Ensoniq 1 meg cards in stock: Sam Ash 800-4-SAM-ASH $400 Thoroughbred 800-800-4654 $600+ E.U. Wurlitzer 800-886-KEYS $575 Two companies also make third-party cards: PS Systems 619-578-1118 Maartist 404-623-3921 (the 800-832-2737 number has been disconnected) I don't have prices listed for these companies because PS Systems has a three *year* backorder on a chip they use for their cards and Maartist never answered my calls. Thoroughbred said they charge $190 for a Maartist card, but I've heard that unless you have a certain ROM version in your keyboard, the card won't work. I tried to call Maartist to check this out, but always got a machine and no return call... My local dealer suggested I try calling a place called Memory Brokers, but it turned out that was the same number as Maartist (did one buy the other?) Anyway, as $400+ is too much for me to spend for 1 meg, I've given up on getting a Flashbank. Guess I'll get the brakes on the car fixed intead... :) Hope this has helped someone. mike smutko smutko@babylon.uchicago.edu