From scf.usc.edu!etrinida Fri Jun 25 00:46:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.125.253.133 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 00:45 PDT Received: from phakt.usc.edu by chaph.usc.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1+ucs-3.0) id AA18952; Fri, 25 Jun 93 00:45:05 PDT Received: by phakt.usc.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1+ucs-3.6) id AA00328; Fri, 25 Jun 93 00:45:04 PDT Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 00:45:04 PDT From: etrinida@scf.usc.edu (Elson Trinidad) Message-Id: <9306250745.AA00328@phakt.usc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: OS 2.49 glitch? Hi there in EPS land. I use my EPS classic for sequencing and noticed a problem. When I bought a Roland U220 some months ago, I noticed a problem. It would work fine, except that whenever I recorded and played a sequence using one of the U220s timbres, the very first note of a sequence would mute itself. This was very bad since it happened even when I chained sequences together into a song - everytime the sequence changes, the first note of that sequence would mute. I noticed that very same problem when the sequencer played the DX7. I tracked down the problem to MIDI program change. As a band-aid solution, I turned off the program change ability on the U220 and it would work fine, providing I would have to manually change all the appropriate instrument parts. Then I noticed this problem was unique to OS 2.49 - It wou;dn't happen on OS 2.5 - But I don;t want to use 2.5 anymore - because of that damn quantizing glitch! Funny, because I also have a Roland MKS7 multitimbral analog module, but the note mute glitch doesn't happen. Same with a Roland MT32. Ideally, I would like to use program change commands from the EPS to the U220, to make setting up sequences easier (I would save 2-block large MIDI instruments on a bank, saving me time loading a sequence), but I can't seem to get arounat damn glitch! Am I overlooking something> Is there hope? Will there be an OS 2.5? Elson ERRATA: "OS 2.5" mentioned in the 5th paragraph beginning with "First I noticed..." should have read "OS 2.45." From bronze.lcs.mit.edu!jna Fri Jun 25 01:24:21 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 18.30.0.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 01:24 PDT Received: by bronze.lcs.mit.edu id AA00745; Fri, 25 Jun 93 03:23:26 EST Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 03:23:26 EST From: jna@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (Where is my mind?) Message-Id: <9306250823.AA00745@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, etrinida@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: OS 2.49 glitch? yo, just go to the track and say "ERASE CONTROLLERS" it'll kill the program changes from the track.. 2.49 likes to shove a program change at the start of the track, the same program change as you specified in the 'midi-program-number' setting (instrument) --john From seas.smu.edu!letni!sdf!davisonj Fri Jun 25 03:53:06 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.181.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 03:52 PDT Received: from relay2.UU.NET by theory.TC.Cornell.EDU with SMTP id AA13636 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 25 Jun 1993 06:05:50 -0400 Received: from seas.smu.edu by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA23324; Fri, 25 Jun 93 05:58:45 -0400 Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 04:58 EDT Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.9) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 04:58 EDT Received: by letni.LoneStar.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.17.5 #17.11) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 04:30 CDT Received: by sdf.LoneStar.ORG (Smail3.1.25.1) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 00:23 CDT Message-Id: From: davisonj@sdf.lonestar.org (John M Davison) Subject: EPS OS 2.49 Question To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 0:23:28 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] My _Transoniq_Hacker_ issues are in a trunk 1500 miles north of where I am right now, so I am submitting the following questions to the dear, patient readers of this list: 1. What was the latest EPS (classic) OS? 2.49? 2. What improvement is 2.49 over the previous versions/revisions? 3. What are the latest ROMS? The one I am near right now says RAM VERSION-2.49 ROM VERSION-2.00 KEYBOARD VERSION=202 SOFTWARE BY ALAN HARDWARE BY ALBERT Is that up to date? -- John Davison davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (temporarily using davisonj@sdf.lonestar.org) From bathurst.csri.toronto.edu!csri.toronto.edu!har Fri Jun 25 06:39:33 1993 Return-Path: <@bathurst.csri.toronto.edu:har@csri.toronto.edu> Received: from 128.100.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 06:39 PDT Received: from gerrard.csri.toronto.edu by bathurst.csri.toronto.edu id <4870>; Fri, 25 Jun 1993 09:39:18 -0400 From: Harriet Hume To: eps@reed.edu Subject: waveboy Cc: har@csri.toronto.edu Message-Id: <93Jun25.093918edt.4870@bathurst.csri.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 09:39:14 -0400 I was wondering if someone could explain and review the 3rd disk from Waveboy? I have the first two and especially like the Audio-In one. Maybe you have reviewed it and I missed it. Is it really for synthesis buffs? Thanks HH From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Fri Jun 25 07:28:12 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 07:27 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA20665 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 25 Jun 1993 10:26:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 10:24:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: OS 2.49 glitch? To: Where is my mind? Cc: eps@reed.edu, etrinida@chaph.usc.edu In-Reply-To: <9306250823.AA00745@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Jun 1993, Where is my mind? wrote: > yo, just go to the track and say "ERASE CONTROLLERS" > > it'll kill the program changes from the track.. > > 2.49 likes to shove a program change at the start of the track, the same > program change as you specified in the 'midi-program-number' setting > (instrument) > > --john Yo, John, you're wrong. He should go to the track and do ERASE PROGRAM CHANGES. BTW: Where's my copy of the 909 manual you promised me months ago? Joe From ualr.edu!JABUSSEY Fri Jun 25 08:50:24 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 08:50 PDT Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #4503) id <01GZSJN17KLS0006Z2@UALR.EDU>; Fri, 25 Jun 1993 10:47:56 CDT Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 10:49:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: EPS classic To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <930625104935.22c05fa4@ualr.edu> X-Envelope-to: eps@reed.edu Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Anyone interested in buying an EPS classic or SELLING an EPS 16+ ? Please email me for Details... JAcque Bussey From cornell.edu!ga12 Fri Jun 25 09:59:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.236.56.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 93 09:58 PDT Received: from [128.253.170.48] by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu with SMTP id AA27140 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 25 Jun 1993 12:58:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199306251658.AA27140@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 13:12:50 -1812 To: etrinida@chaph.usc.edu (Elson Trinidad), eps@reed.edu From: ga12@cornell.edu (mike allinger) X-Sender: ga12@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu Subject: Re: OS 2.49 glitch? Elson, For what it's worth, when I dump a sequence from computer to EPS (track by track :-( ) the first thing I'll do is erase program changes and sometimes even volume controller. Then I'll insert a blank measure at the begining of the sequence for patch changes. As you know a patch change is generated by holding the instrument button and pressing the 2 digits associated with the patch change. When the button is released the change is output and memorized in the instrument info. Just hit edit/inst and tab through till you see "midi program=nn" (or something like that). Now if you overdub on that track the program change info is automaticly recorded. Be sure that "record=add" and NOT "record=replace" under edit/sequence. This should get rid of those nasty glitches. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | mike allinger |"Its not the tall mountains ga12@cornell.edu | on the road ahead that will wear you down, m3a@cornellc.cornell.edu | but the grain of sand in your boot." m3a@crux1.cornell.edu | phone:607.254.6430(work) | unknown 607.564.3669(home) | (but thanks to Howard Moscovitz for sharing it | with midi-request) | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From noel.pd.org!klang Sat Jun 26 09:45:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.140.1.88 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 26 Jun 93 09:44 PDT Received: by noel.pd.org id AA17426 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Sat, 26 Jun 1993 12:41:05 -0400 From: Tim Seaton Message-Id: <199306261641.AA17426@noel.pd.org> Subject: EPS Classic To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 12:41:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL0] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 359 To All, I just picked up an EPS very cheaply and frankly don't know that much about it. I has version 2.40 of the operating system from what I can tell, and has the 4x memory expansion. My question is, what are the upgrade possibilities if any, and what are the best Mac programs for utilizing the unit. Any comments would be very much appreciated! -T From uu4.psi.com!witch!theend Mon Jun 28 00:15:49 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 38.146.21.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 28 Jun 93 00:13 PDT Received: from witch.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA28313 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 93 02:55:40 -0400 Received: by theend.win.net; Sun, 27 Jun 1993 23:22.11.24 Mailer: WinNET Mail, v1.02 Message-Id: <147@theend.win.net> Reply-To: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1993 23:22.11.19 Subject: Re: TS-10 Questions From: insect@theend.win.net (Jay W. Bromley) >1) The TS-10 will apparently eventually have the SCSI interface available >as an option; I don't think it is available now. This is good, very good. As long as the TS-10 doesn't have the same SCSI ID as the EPS-16 does (I would be hoping to hook both of these up to the same hard drive.) >2) With 8 meg of RAM in the TS-10 you can load 20 INSTRUMENTS, not samples, >as long as those 20 instruments do not exceed 8 meg. it loads the instrument >EXACTLY as it is set up on the EPS. All parameters intact. But the nice >part is that you get 31 voices, i.e. true oscillators This is what I wanted to hear. THis makes the TS-10 all too attractive. >So, the EPS/TS-10 combination is quite nice. Expensive, but nice. But >then again, you can always live in the nice box the TS-10 comes in. Well, I've already got the 16+. Besides, it would put me out less than a K2000 with sampling option. Not to mention all the time that would be spent converting my library to work right on the K2000. Not to mention an architecture I'm somewhat familiar with and won't have to spend days learning (someone stop me here before I run out and buy one...) Regards! ===================================================================== Simon Insect-o-cutor He's losing his mind and he feels it Insect@TheEnd.Win.Net going. 70661.2661@CompuServe.Com From genesis.nred.ma.us!djkc Tue Jun 29 03:02:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.197.8.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 03:01 PDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.19) id AA09262; Tue, 29 Jun 93 05:31:33 -0400 Received: by genesis.nred.ma.us (5.51/genesis0.0) id AA12976; Tue, 29 Jun 93 05:31:55 19 From: djkc@genesis.nred.ma.us (James Henderson) Message-Id: <9306290931.AA12976@genesis.nred.ma.us> Subject: Re: waveboy To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 05:31:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <93Jun25.093918edt.4870@bathurst.csri.toronto.edu> from "Harriet Hume" at Jun 25, 93 09:39:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 530 > I was wondering if someone could explain and review the 3rd disk from > Waveboy? I have the first two and especially like the Audio-In one. > Maybe you have reviewed it and I missed it. > Is it really for synthesis buffs? > Thanks > HH I, too, am interested in the Waveboy disks. I heard they are used to create analog sounds and/or have effects algorithms which simulate more than 3 effects simultaneously. Could someone give a run down of the Waveboy disks? How many are there? And do they work on ASR-10? Thanks, -djkc From seas.smu.edu!letni!sdf!davisonj Tue Jun 29 03:28:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.61 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 03:27 PDT Received: from 192.48.96.7 by itchy.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.23) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 03:27 PDT Received: from seas.smu.edu by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA10053; Tue, 29 Jun 93 06:22:42 -0400 Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 05:21 EDT Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.9) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 05:21 EDT Received: by letni.LoneStar.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.17.5 #17.11) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 04:40 CDT Received: by sdf.LoneStar.ORG (Smail3.1.25.1) id ; Mon, 28 Jun 93 08:53 CDT Message-Id: From: davisonj@sdf.LoneStar.ORG (John M Davison) Subject: Question about Patch Change Events on EPS Classic To: eps%reed.edu@uunet.uu.net (EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 93 8:53:44 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I'm sorry, but I left my manual up north, so I can't look up the answer. Instead I'll bug you guys: is there any way to generate patch change sequencer events besides from an external source? -- John Davison davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (temporarily using davisonj@sdf.lonestar.org) From Ensoniq.COM!bill Tue Jun 29 09:03:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 09:03 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA27278; Tue, 29 Jun 93 12:03:01 EDT X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA18461; Tue, 29 Jun 93 12:01:53 EDT Message-Id: <9306291601.AA18461@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA02798; Tue, 29 Jun 93 11:56:38 EDT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 93 11:56:38 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: waveboy > I was wondering if someone could explain and review the 3rd disk from > Waveboy? > I, too, am interested in the Waveboy disks. > Could someone give a run down of the Waveboy disks? Here's the blurb: PARALLEL EFFECTS DISK for the Ensoniq ASR-10 and EPS-16 PLUS _____________________ This disk contains 16 algorithms which load into an EPS or ASR and redefine what the signal processing chip can do. Each algorithm contains four parallel sub-effects. Each sub-effect can process a different (mono) input with a different effect. So it's possible to (for example) use a long reverb on a snare, a short reverb on the high-hat, a flanger on the bass and a chorus/delay on the electric piano P all at the same time. And each of the four effects has a stereo output with adjustable pan and level. Each sub-effect is one of three basic algorithms: 0 REV: a dense reverb with variable room-size, adjustable from a short ambience to a large hall; 0 CHO: a versatile stereo-delay with LFO modulation which can produce chorusing, flanging, and ping-pong delays; 0 DIS: a guitar effects-chain with a resonant filter, distortion, speaker simulator, and a stereo delay. The individual sub-effects are distributed in the 16 algorithms as follows: Effect File Name sub-effects within 1) 4 REVERBS REV REV REV REV 2) 4 CHORUSES CHO CHO CHO CHO 3) 4 DISTORTNS DIS DIS DIS DIS 4) 1 CHO + 3 REV CHO REV REV REV 5) 2 CHO + 2 REV CHO CHO REV REV 6) 3 CHO + 1 REV CHO CHO CHO REV 7) 1 DIS + 3 REV DIS REV REV REV 8) 2 DIS + 2 REV DIS DIS REV REV 9) 3 DIS + 1 REV DIS DIS DIS REV 10 )1 CHO + 3 DIS CHO DIS DIS DIS 11 )2 CHO + 2 DIS CHO CHO DIS DIS 12) 3 CHO + 1 DIS CHO CHO CHO DIS 13) DIS+CHO+2REV DIS CHO REV REV 14) DIS+REV+2CHO DIS REV CHO CHO 15) CHO+REV+2DIS CHO REV DIS DIS 16) CHO+RV+CH+RV CHO REV CHO REV Also on the disk: the TIME-DICER. It's a pitch-shifter plus reverb, that can do time-stretching as well as dynamic pitch-shifting. AUDIO-IN EFFECTS DISK for the Ensoniq EPS-16 PLUS _______________________ Audio-in effects let you send external audio signals into the effects processor that's built into the Ensoniq EPS-16 PLUS. A guitar, mic, or line level signal, when plugged into the audio-in jack, is routed to BUS1 of the effects processor. A Mic/Line switch and level control adjusts the gain of the input. Can I still use the keyboard? Yes, internal sounds can still play too, using BUS2 or BUS3. What good are they? Use the EPS as an extra effects box in your studio. Or play a gig and bring as little equipment as possible1 just the EPS and a mic. You may want to use the unique keyboard-controlled pitch-shifter to change your voice into a vocal quartet in real-time. Or use the Time-Dicer to change the pitch of a track without changing its tempo. No Hardware. It's a disk? This disk contains a number of effect algorithms which load into the machine. Thirteen of the effects on this disk are enhancements of the ROM effects that are built into the EPS-16 PLUS; from HALL REVERB+X all the way down to WA+DST+REV+X. The other eight effects on this disk are totally new: PLATE-REVERB PLATE-VERB+X NONLIN REV+X PARALLEL EFX 2CHO+2REV+X PAR-FX GTR+X TIME-DICER+X 3V HARMONY+X PLATE REVERB is a studio staple for adding presence and warmth to percussive sounds and solo instruments. The NON-LINEAR REVERB has an abrupt cutoff instead of a smooth tailPjust the ticket for modern drum sounds. A new guitar effect gives you distortion, delay and reverb on the audio in, with a separate chorus and reverb that can be used for other sounds at the same time. And if you like the Time-Dicer, you'll elope with the new 3-voice pitchshifter: 3V HARMONY. Polyphonic keyboard control means it works as a vocal harmonizer, creating three new harmony parts from one voice input. RESONANT FILTER DISK for the Ensoniq ASR-10 and EPS-16 PLUS _______________________ The REZ FILTER algorithm re-creates an analog synthesizerPinside the effects processor. A four-pole low-pass resonant filter is coupled to a lightning- fast ADSR envelope generator. The filter's resonance control (also known as emphasis, or Q) gives it that distinctive analog sound by creating a sharp peak in the frequency response. This peak can be swept up or down on each note using the envelopePor controlled by the keyboard or velocity or any modulation source. It does things you cannot do by sampling an analog synth. The disk comes with a sound called REZ MINIMOOG which shows some ways to use REZ FILTER. But the effect is not limited to imitations of the past. Full instructions are included; you'll quickly be transforming your entire library of clean digital samples into strange and wonderful new sounds. Other feature of REZ FILTER include: 0 chorus and reverb at the same time; 0 single or multi-trigger modes on the envelope generator; 0 a sample-and-hold function can randomly jump the filter around for that classic ARP sound. This disk also includes FM+FX. This algorithm uses software inside the effects processor to synthesize one voice of live frequency modulation. Again, an example sound is included that sounds terribly much like the DX-7. But The DX-7 used only sine wavesPyou can go further. This algorithm allows you to modulate any sound with any other sound! Like REZ FILTER, FM+FX includes chorus and reverb which can be added to the FM output or used for other sounds on BUS2. ___________________________________ ___________________________________W A V e B O Y Industries P.O. Box 233, Paoli, PA 19301 (215) 251-9562 ___________________________________ From cs.ucsb.edu!cosmo Tue Jun 29 14:49:57 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 93 14:49 PDT Received: from engineering.ucsb.edu by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA14706 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.1-sun Tue, 29 Jun 93 14:50:46 PDT for eps@reed.edu Received: from yogi (yogi.cs) by engineering.ucsb.edu (4.1/UCSBGENERIC.4) id AA01380 to eps@reed.edu; Tue, 29 Jun 93 14:49:37 PDT Received: by yogi (5.0/UCSB-v2-cs) id AA16116; Tue, 29 Jun 93 14:50:02 PDT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 93 14:50:02 PDT From: cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin) Message-Id: <9306292150.AA16116@yogi> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Where is the file EPS file server? Content-Length: 177 Sorry if I've been out of it... I've seen several messages about not being able to log into eps.reed.edu. Has it moved, or is the server down all together? Thanks, - Boris From umbc.edu!cs421a23 Wed Jun 30 11:31:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.85.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 93 11:29 PDT Received: from umbc8.umbc.edu by umbc3.umbc.edu with SMTP id AA09898 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 30 Jun 1993 14:28:59 -0400 Received: by umbc8.umbc.edu id AA08727 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Wed, 30 Jun 1993 14:28:58 -0400 From: Zak May Message-Id: <199306301828.AA08727@umbc8.umbc.edu> Subject: Hi, I'm back! To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 14:28:57 -0500 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1424 Hello everyone, I stole another account for myself and it just makes me blissfully happy. Not that it isn't my normal condition lately, since I started listening to The Orb and expanded my ASR-10 to 10Mb :) New batch of stupid questions for you: 1. How do I set up INST effects? Are they really and truly independent from the BANK effects? I'm having a particular problem laying a distorted guitar in my mix - either the whole mix is distorted (goes thru DIST+REV+whatever), or the guitar sounds like a xylophone (which is actually not that bad :) 2. What programs are there to transfer ftp'ed samples from PC to the ASR-10? I tried the shareware thing from Michael Chen, but it kept erroring out with different error messages everytime I tried anything. Is there a reliable one? I'm ready to pay for it if needed :) 3. When is the ASR-10 sample library coming out? I've been told that it's 'in works right now'. What does *that* mean? 4. I learned to distinguish 4 different kinds of OS crashes on the ASR-10. So it doesn't excite much as much as it used to... 5. Which standard EPS 16+ library disks have good rock drums/bass guitar samples? I was not really impressed with the 'HIFI KIT' samples or the included Stereo Drums. The Bass sample is really a problem, since I found myself limited to using the JAZZ BASS sample in all my sequences ;-) Thanks a lot, Zak May cs421a23@umbc.edu Washington, DC From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Wed Jun 30 12:11:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 93 12:10 PDT Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA00675; Wed, 30 Jun 93 15:09:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 15:09:07 -0400 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9306301909.AA00675@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: cs421a23@umbc.edu, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Hi, I'm back! >5 Which standard EPS 16+ library disks have good rock drums/bass guitar >samples? You might try the John Robinson volumes for drums. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mark Schneider University of Florida | | mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu 904-335-6511 (voice) | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From genesis.nred.ma.us!djkc Thu Jul 1 21:48:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.197.8.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 1 Jul 93 21:46 PDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.19) id AA00369; Fri, 2 Jul 93 00:46:45 -0400 Received: by genesis.nred.ma.us (5.51/genesis0.0) id AA08482; Fri, 2 Jul 93 00:46:13 19 From: djkc@genesis.nred.ma.us (James Henderson) Message-Id: <9307020446.AA08482@genesis.nred.ma.us> Subject: Re: Hi, I'm back! To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 00:46:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199306301828.AA08727@umbc8.umbc.edu> from "Zak May" at Jun 30, 93 02:28:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2637 > > Hello everyone, > > I stole another account for myself and it just makes me blissfully happy. > Not that it isn't my normal condition lately, since I started listening > to The Orb and expanded my ASR-10 to 10Mb :) If you listen to the Orb, why do you want rock-drums kit and bass guitar samples? Curious... > > New batch of stupid questions for you: > > 1. How do I set up INST effects? Are they really and truly independent from > the BANK effects? I'm having a particular problem laying a distorted guitar > in my mix - either the whole mix is distorted (goes thru DIST+REV+whatever), > or the guitar sounds like a xylophone (which is actually not that bad :) > OK, you can only have one algorithm (effect) going at any time. INST means that when you have the FX-select on "INST", and choose an instrument, the effect will change to the one assigned to that instrument. To assign different effect to instruments, you have to copy them (look in the manual). When changing effects on the ASR/EPS, there will be a pause (split-second) so that the new effect may load. So, if you have any sequenced sounds going, there'll be a split-second of silence. Um, for your particular need (DIST+REV+whatever), if you want an instrument to go through DIST only, you need to edit the instrument and assign the values for BUS1,2,3. I assume DIST is BUS1, so set BUS2 and BUS3 to zero (no through). BANK (on FX-select) means that when you switch between intruments, the effect will remain the same (whatever is selected for BANK), and there won't be a pause (since there's no need to load a new effect). BTW, effects are "loaded" from ROM. Did I miss anything? Is everything I said correct, guys? > 2. What programs are there to transfer ftp'ed samples from PC to the ASR-10? > I tried the shareware thing from Michael Chen, but it kept erroring out with > different error messages everytime I tried anything. Is there a reliable > one? I'm ready to pay for it if needed :) > Well, first, make sure you format your DD or HD disk (doesn't matter since EPS .gkh files are 800k) on the ASR-10 as "ENSONIQ" type. "COMPUTER" is used for something else -- not Chen's utility. Then use epswrite.exe as follows (on an IBM): Put ASR-10 formatted floppy in drive a: (or b:), type "epswrite samplefile.gkh a:" Simple...it should work. If your disk is HD, you'll only be using 800k of it, so transfer the instruments (on the ASR) to another ASR format disk. The data on the epswritten disk may load faster, but it's not very stable. > > Thanks a lot, > > Zak May > cs421a23@umbc.edu > Washington, DC > Sure thing. -djkc From oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu!chris.parrish Fri Jul 2 12:50:25 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.15.22.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 2 Jul 93 12:50 PDT Received: from oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu by mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu with UUCP id AA29596 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 2 Jul 1993 14:48:11 -0500 Received: by oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu id A2305wk Fri, 02 Jul 93 14:45:18 From: chris.parrish@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Message-Id: <9307021445.A2305wk@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 93 14:45:18 Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: eps@reed.edu I know this isn't the proper method to subscribe, but I forgot the proper name to use.... thanks / From peabody.sdsc.edu!pauls Fri Jul 2 13:40:43 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.17.46.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:40 PDT Received: from peabody.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.7) id AA22517; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:40:32 PDT Received: by peabody.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI-a) for eps@reed.edu id AA18144; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:40:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 13:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul FAuST!! Subject: FTP schtuff To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm very sorry for asking what I know has been asked frequently, but is there time restrictions for when we can ftp to eps.reed.edu? I've been having problems getting in throughout the day. Also, can someone mail me a FAQ? I feel like a complete novice here, sorry. I've been subscribed to this list for about 9 months at least, but I dont "interact" much. Thanx. +**********************************************************************+ = P. F A U s T ! ! | = pauls@sdsc.edu |"Well, I wasn't TRYING to impress YOU." ================================| = "Helping you to help me," | -Chris Groening = so you can help myself." | =**********************************************************************+ From peabody.sdsc.edu!pauls Fri Jul 2 13:49:14 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.17.46.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:48 PDT Received: from peabody.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.7) id AA22964; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:49:06 PDT Received: by peabody.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI-a) for eps@reed.edu id AA18213; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:48:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 13:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul FAuST!! Subject: ftp'ing To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm very sorry for asking what I know has been asked frequently, but is there time restrictions for when we can ftp to eps.reed.edu? I've been having problems getting in throughout the day. Also, can someone mail me a FAQ? I feel like a complete novice here, sorry. I've been subscribed to this list for about 9 months at least, but I dont "interact" much. Thanx. +**********************************************************************+ = P. F A U s T ! ! | = pauls@sdsc.edu |"Well, I wasn't TRYING to impress YOU." ================================| = "Helping you to help me," | -Chris Groening = so you can help myself." | =**********************************************************************+ From seas.smu.edu!letni!sdf!davisonj Sat Jul 3 00:35:55 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 3 Jul 93 00:35 PDT Received: from seas.smu.edu by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA06196; Sat, 3 Jul 93 03:35:33 -0400 Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6) id ; Sat, 3 Jul 93 02:35 EDT Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.9) id ; Sat, 3 Jul 93 02:35 EDT Received: by letni.LoneStar.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.17.5 #17.11) id ; Sat, 3 Jul 93 01:15 CDT Received: by sdf.LoneStar.ORG (Smail3.1.25.1) id ; Sat, 3 Jul 93 00:30 CDT Message-Id: From: davisonj@sdf.LoneStar.ORG (John M Davison) Subject: Electronic Musician ASR-10 review To: eps%reed.edu@uunet.uu.net (EPS Mailing List) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 93 0:30:00 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I was amused to see that in the _Electronic_Musician_ review of the ASR-10, it is said that the ASR-10 is the first affordable sampler to offer portamento. (!) -- John Davison davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (temporarily using davisonj@sdf.lonestar.org) From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Sat Jul 3 12:38:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 3 Jul 93 12:37 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF V4.2-12 #3439) id <01H03ZRPWGR4BL194Y@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Sat, 3 Jul 1993 15:37:52 EDT Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1993 15:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: Portamento... To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01H03ZRPYLWYBL194Y@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> Organization: West Virginia Network X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I was amused to see that in the _Electronic_Musician_ review of the > ASR-10, it is said that the ASR-10 is the first affordable sampler to offer > portamento. (!) Maybe it's true. The parameter on my EPS 13-minus's layer menu says "Glide mode". :-) Incidentally, the PEDAL glide mode allows you a polyphonic portamento that I have not seen anywhere else. It's a beautiful effect, once you get the hang of it. If there is any desire on the list for a "techniques" writeup on using the pedal mode, I would be happy to put one together. -Tom Williams From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Sat Jul 3 14:48:14 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 3 Jul 93 14:48 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <03420-0@pat.uio.no>; Sat, 3 Jul 1993 23:48:00 +0200 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Sat, 3 Jul 1993 23:47:57 +0200 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 23:47:57 +0200 Message-Id: <9307032147.AAfidibus17571@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad X-Sender: tgf@fidibus Subject: Questions aboat TS10 I don't know If there are more than one with a TS10 out there, so I was in doubt wether I should ask the whole mailing list aboat this. I believe there are more than me that want info on the TS10, but maybe not the questions I ask. I limit questions to EPS related stuff, as has been done before. The TS10 can read EPS/ASR instruments from sample floppies, play them and edit them. ( but not save the whole instruments.) It is my understanding ( IIMU) ... On the TS10 one can in principle save wavesample parameters _separately. These can then be applied to the sample data-set. The sample data-set can only be made by Ensoniq samplers EPS/16+/ASR.( and of coarse computers emulating them) The file type used to hold the wavesample-parameters-only on the TS10 is called "Sample-Edits". So you can use the same sample data with many separate Sample Edits ( parameters only) , and only take up a small amount of disk space. This is something I often have wanted ( I organized something similar on the EPS by sending parameters only over MIDI from a computer,for that matter it could have been any sysex recorder) . IIMU On the TS10 you can also use a previously saved Sample-Edit file with a _different Sample Set ( Sound Data ) than what it was originally created for. This also seems great. However, _what does the TS10 actually do? Does it substitute _all wavesample parameters or does it only substitute for those that where actually edited when saving the Sample-Edit file? If it does not make that distinction, I could see the need for such an differentiation. The obvious example is that you would normally not want to substitute the loop points from one data set to another for sustained sounds. With the ability to efficiently apply different sets of wave data to one set of parameters ( or hopefully a selected subset of parameters ) I can see the need for utilities that rearrange waves in instrument files so that they are in the correct order you want. For people with eps samplers it could also be beneficial to apply the "Sample-Edits" to the sample data and make a permanent EPS instrument. So finally some specific questions related to the above: Can one on a TS10 save the Sample Edits back on the ASR10/EPS formatted floppy where the samples came from? (IIMU the TS10 high level floppy format is different than the EPS/ASR10, The ASR cannot read the Sample-Edits I guess? Still it might be convenient for the TS10 guy to keep the things on one floppy) Does the Sample-Edits substitute _all the parameters in an instrument, or only selected ones? Can you send samples to the TS10 over MIDI? Does it have its own sample dump format which any sample editors use? And finally, please point out assumptions I have made which might be very wrong. Ha det, Terje Yes, I know I could get those questions answered by calling Ensoniq Customer Service.(215)647-3930. Maybe even Transoniq Hacker has listed a friendly TS10 expert. From umbc.edu!cs421a23 Sun Jul 4 04:07:33 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 93 11:29 PDT Received: from umbc8.umbc.edu by umbc3.umbc.edu with SMTP id AA09898 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 30 Jun 1993 14:28:59 -0400 Received: by umbc8.umbc.edu id AA08727 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Wed, 30 Jun 1993 14:28:58 -0400 From: Zak May Message-Id: <199306301828.AA08727@umbc8.umbc.edu> Subject: Hi, I'm back! To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 14:28:57 -0500 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1424 Hello everyone, I stole another account for myself and it just makes me blissfully happy. Not that it isn't my normal condition lately, since I started listening to The Orb and expanded my ASR-10 to 10Mb :) New batch of stupid questions for you: 1. How do I set up INST effects? Are they really and truly independent from the BANK effects? I'm having a particular problem laying a distorted guitar in my mix - either the whole mix is distorted (goes thru DIST+REV+whatever), or the guitar sounds like a xylophone (which is actually not that bad :) 2. What programs are there to transfer ftp'ed samples from PC to the ASR-10? I tried the shareware thing from Michael Chen, but it kept erroring out with different error messages everytime I tried anything. Is there a reliable one? I'm ready to pay for it if needed :) 3. When is the ASR-10 sample library coming out? I've been told that it's 'in works right now'. What does *that* mean? 4. I learned to distinguish 4 different kinds of OS crashes on the ASR-10. So it doesn't excite much as much as it used to... 5. Which standard EPS 16+ library disks have good rock drums/bass guitar samples? I was not really impressed with the 'HIFI KIT' samples or the included Stereo Drums. The Bass sample is really a problem, since I found myself limited to using the JAZZ BASS sample in all my sequences ;-) Thanks a lot, Zak May cs421a23@umbc.edu Washington, DC From peabody.sdsc.edu!pauls Tue Jul 6 03:42:03 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:40 PDT Received: from peabody.sdsc.edu by mailserver.sdsc.edu (4.1/4.7) id AA22517; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:40:32 PDT Received: by peabody.sdsc.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI-a) for eps@reed.edu id AA18144; Fri, 2 Jul 93 13:40:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 13:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul FAuST!! Subject: FTP schtuff To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm very sorry for asking what I know has been asked frequently, but is there time restrictions for when we can ftp to eps.reed.edu? I've been having problems getting in throughout the day. Also, can someone mail me a FAQ? I feel like a complete novice here, sorry. I've been subscribed to this list for about 9 months at least, but I dont "interact" much. Thanx. +**********************************************************************+ = P. F A U s T ! ! | = pauls@sdsc.edu |"Well, I wasn't TRYING to impress YOU." ================================| = "Helping you to help me," | -Chris Groening = so you can help myself." | =**********************************************************************+ From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Tue Jul 6 07:50:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 93 07:48 PDT Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04415; Tue, 6 Jul 93 10:48:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 10:48:21 -0400 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9307061448.AA04415@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, pauls@sdsc.edu Subject: Re: FTP schtuff Cc: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu I'm not sure that a FAQ exists. Here is our "Survival Kit" - maybe that is our FAQ. Anyway, it has good information. This may be an old version. -Mark Schneider mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jul 92 13:29:04 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207030529.AA23200@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Survival Kit, Well, so far here is the revised survival kit, THE EPS USERS SURVIVAL KIT Contents: EPS users mailing list. Transoniq Hacker information. Selected Software. Bug List. ********************** EPS users mailing list ************************* The EPS mailing list is for the discussion of the Ensoniq EPS family of digital sampling keyboards. Members post questions, answers, informal reviews, and other information. The mailing list includes nearly 115 men and women from North America, Europe, and Australia. Recently sample swapping (via e-mail and ftp) has started. Ask the group how to join in (PD software avaliable). All you need is a PC/Mac/Atari with a 3.5" drive and some way of getting files off the network into the PC /Mac/Atari. To subscribe to the list send your email details to: eps-request@reed.edu The address for the mailing list is: eps@reed.edu When you send email to that address, the machine there sends a copy to each individual on the list. If you have problems or questions about to using the list, send your query to one of these addresses: eps-request@reed.edu Please don't send subscribe/unsunscribe requests to the list (eps@reed.edu). Archives of past discussions are available as compressed text files via anonymous ftp to reed.edu. The file(s) are in /pub/mailing-lists/eps, and were compressed with the UNIX "compress" utility. There are quite a few archives available in the format "eps-digestN.Z" where N = (1,2,3...N) "eps-digest1.Z" starts the archives and covers the period from November 1990 through the end of 1991. Drop Scott Fisher a line if you need further info... scott@psy.uwa.oz.au ************************* Transoniq Hacker ***************************** Transoniq Hacker (TH) is an independent users support magazine for Ensoniq products. It provides... * Reviews of samples and patches * Software Reviews * New products news * Free Patches (for Ensoniq Synths) * Phone network for free help * Programming tips * How-to articles * Questions and answers (The interface) * Free Classified adds * Interviews * ...and 3rd party company support i.e... Software, Memory Expanders, SCSI Drives etc. In the forum "The Interface" where letters get answered, not only by TH staff but "real" people at Ensoniq, who offer their services for this section. I have subscribed for 4 years now and all I can say is that you SHOULD subscribe, nothing else comes close to TH for supporting us EPS and Ensoniq users in general. TH provide a money back guarantee that if you do not think your subscription has paid for its self in 3 issues (1 a month) then you can claim back your subscription. Alternatively they offer a 3 month "skeptics" subscription offer. There is no-way (practically) that you will get your fingers burnt with them, if you don't like TH you get ALL your money back. First time subscribers get a special deal, 12 monthly issues for $18 US ($25 All others outside the USA) This is $5 off the subscription price. Special "skeptics" deal is 3 issues (3 months) for $5 US ($7 Non US). After the first year you revert to... $23/year (US$32 outside the US). HOW TO SUBSCRIBE? Three methods... 1) Mail your cheque (payable to "Transoniq Hacker") OR your (Mastercard/Visa) number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to... Transoniq Hacker 1402 SW Upland Drive, Portland, OR 97221. Phone: 503/227-6848 (8 a.m. to 9 p.m. PST). 2) Phone their TOLL-FREE 1-800-548-8925 (US only) and give your Mastercard/Visa number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to the answering machine (24 Hour service). 3) Alternatively and this is a real PLUS!! you can contact Eric (the publisher and owner of TH) via Compuserve on... 73260.3353@compuserve.com You can give your (Mastercard/Visa) details to him over the net, with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code. Why not drop him a line and have a chat about TH (say Scott sent you, Eric will go ... Eh? What? Who is that? :-) The other good thing about having email contact with TH is that you can send in letters/articles easily and quickly and have a chat to Eric at the same time. *************************** Selected Software ******************************** You are what you eat right? Well the EPS is what it eats too :-) Without good software the EPS\16 Plus ain't much use. Below are a selection of products that I have found make a difference to the EPS's appeal... Diskette Utilities: For EPS & PCs, Geibler enterprises Ensoniq Diskette Manager (EDM) is a good thing. It formats, copies and does just about everything to not only EPS disks but all Ensoniq Formats (Mirage, ESQ-80, VFX-SD, SD-1). This is also good for storing EPS disks on your PC'd hard disk in DOS format. Makes it easy to send EPS disks via the NET too. For more info, write to Geibler Enterprises 8038 Morgan Road Liverpool, N.Y. 13090 U.S.A. For EPS and ATARI, Steve Quartly has Share-Ware avaliable that he wrote. Does everything EDM does with EPS disks and MORE. Contact Steve at.. steveq@dialix.oz.au Effects (for 16 Plus): For the EPS 16 PLus, How long have you been waiting for Ensoniq to add some more FX algorithms to the unit? Waveboy industries have released a whole bunch (16) of new FX (yes brand new!) for the EPS 16 Plus. They load straight into the EPS FX chip (ESP chip) from diskette. One of the algorithms is a PITCH SHIFTER that lets you plug a mic into the EPS and use it as a LIVE FX unit. These FX are SIMPLY BRILLIANT!! For more info... Waveboy Industries. PO Box 233 Paoli PA, 19301 U.S.A. PH: (215) 251-9562. EPS and Midi programming: For those of you struggling with the EPS sysex and MIDI while trying to write your own code there is a whole bunch of EPS sysex routines written in turbo-C avaliable for anonymous ftp... AT: louie.udel.edu IN: /pub/midi/software/ibm The files are eps.README (presented below) and eps.tar.Z eps.README... >This is my library of EPS system-exclusive routines. It includes >routines that implement most of the SysEx messages defined in the Ensoniq >Performance Sampler Extern Command Specification. Those messages that are >not implemented can be simulated by using the Virtual Button Press message. >These routines were written in Turbo C, for the IBM PC and MPU-401, >which explains some of the identifiers. However, it should be simple enough >to port them to any other platform. All of the MPU-specific routines >are defined in 'mpu.c' and 'mpu.h'. There is some IBM-specific stuff in >'eps.c' and 'eps.h', too. These four files should be the only ones you >need to modify. > >I've also included 'epsl.lib', a Turbo C large model library, >containing all of this stuff, for those who can use it. > >If you find any bugs, have comments to make, or just want to send >me a line, I can be reached at arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov . ************************ EPS users bug list **************************** How many times have you seen ERROR 144 - REBOOT? What caused it? Well, Richard Hagen is the keeper of the EPS/EPS 16 PLus BUG LIST. So if you have any BUGS to report or you wan't to know if the BUG you have found is a rare and endangered species send email to... richard@cit.gu.edu.au. ************************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to gain by supporting the above groups, I am simply a satisfied customer, trying to help fellow EPS users. I live in Australia so you don't frighten me if you get upset anyway :-) You don't have a ticket here do you? _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ensoniq.COM!bill Tue Jul 6 08:02:06 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 93 08:01 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA08029; Tue, 6 Jul 93 11:01:00 EDT X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA26041; Tue, 6 Jul 93 10:59:06 EDT Message-Id: <9307061459.AA26041@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA01306; Tue, 6 Jul 93 11:00:57 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 11:00:57 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Questions aboat TS10 Terje asks: Can one on a TS10 save the Sample Edits back on the ASR10/EPS formatted floppy where the samples came from? (IIMU the TS10 high level floppy format is different than the EPS/ASR10, The ASR cannot read the Sample-Edits I guess? Still it might be convenient for the TS10 guy to keep the things on one floppy) Does the Sample-Edits substitute _all the parameters in an instrument, or only selected ones? Can you send samples to the TS10 over MIDI? Does it have its own sample dump format which any sample editors use? And finally, please point out assumptions I have made which might be very wrong. *------------------------------------------------------------------- Sample-edits can only go onto TS-10 disks. The sample-edits file saves the parameter data for every layer and wavesample in the sound, whether it was changed or not. At this time the ASR-10 can't read the data, although that is obviously a nice thing that we are thinking about. When you force a sample-edit file onto a sound other that the one it came from, it looks for matching wavesample numbers to determine what wavesamples to write the data to. It does indeed rewrite the loop pointers, which looks like it may even cause a crash in some situations. We are fixing that and in some future OS it will not overwrite loop points when doing a "forced" sample edit. No samples over MIDI. Since the TS-10 will be able to read EPS/ASR-10 format hard disks and CD-ROMs, you would need a program that writes from the PC onto a SCSI harddisk in ensoniq DOS format. Bill Ensoniq From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Tue Jul 6 11:52:47 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 93 11:51 PDT Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA12798; Tue, 6 Jul 93 14:51:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 14:51:09 -0400 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9307061851.AA12798@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sorry - survival kit Cc: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu Sorry about posting the survival kit to the entire list. It was a mistype on my part (I just found out that "reply" goes to eps@reed.edu as well as the person I'm responding privately to. Mark mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu From andrew.cmu.edu!sg1q+ Tue Jul 6 12:23:50 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.10.105 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 93 12:22 PDT Received: by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 6 Jul 93 15:22:39 EDT Received: via switchmail; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 15:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 15:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 15:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.0.1.23.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 15:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 15:20:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Peter Gatrall To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Simple questions Cc: I recently bought an EPS classic, and I have just started sampling with it. I'm having a few problems with it that the manuals don't seem to cover. 1. I sampled a synth phrase from a song and looped it (I sampled at 39k). When I hold the key down to hear the loop, it does something weird. The first time you hear the loop, and every odd numbered time, it sounds fine. The even numbered times sound like it's gone through a low-pass filter (the highs are cut). Is this some sort of aliasing problem? What can I do to avoid it? Should I resample at a higher frequency? 2. I also have a DR-660 drum machine. I've created a dummy instrument to play the DR-660 from the EPS. For the most part this is really cool, but the velocity coming out of the EPS is not high enough to mimic hitting the pads on the drum machine itself. Even with the touch set to "Soft 1," I can still get louder sounds by hitting the pads on the DR-660, than the keys of the EPS. Are there any third party manuals for the EPS? Are they worthwhile? -s!mon From msc.edu!danw Tue Jul 6 14:54:36 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 93 14:54 PDT Received: from uh.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA25072; Tue, 6 Jul 93 16:54:03 -0500 Received: by uh.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.1r(920220)) id AA00555; Tue, 6 Jul 93 16:54:00 -0500 From: danw@msc.edu (Dan Waylonis) Message-Id: <9307062154.AA00555@uh.msc.edu> Subject: Mailing List Name? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 16:53:59 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hiya, With the release of various new Ensoniq products (e.g., TS-10), I wondering if a name change to the EPS mailing list might be appropriate. This, and the fact that the VFX group has kinda died out. Is there a DP/4 or ESQ/SQ group? Perhaps, ``ensoniq@reed.edu''? or ``ensoniq-list@reed.edu''? Maybe ``its-a-synthesizer-no-its-a-sampler-no-its-a-sample-player@reed.edu''? :-) Dan /||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\ | Dan \\ MN Supercomputer Center| He who imagines he can do without the | Waylonis \\ 1200 Washington Ave S | world deceives himself much; but he who | Graphics \\ Minneapolis MN 55415 | fancies the world cannot do without him | danw@msc.edu\\ (612) 337-3538 | is still more mistaken. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| -- Francois de La Rochefoucauld From andrew.cmu.edu!sg1q+ Tue Jul 6 15:51:21 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.10.105 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 93 15:51 PDT Received: by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 6 Jul 93 18:50:58 EDT Received: via switchmail; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 18:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 18:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 18:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.0.1.23.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 18:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 18:49:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Peter Gatrall To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Mailing List Name? Cc: In-Reply-To: <9307062154.AA00555@uh.msc.edu> EPS is short and simple even if it is no longer accurate, and it would only confuse people if the list name changes. I run two mailing list myself. You'd be surprised how many stupid people are on the net. That, and stupid mailer daemons that send error messages to the wrong people. Don't fix it if it ain't broke. I have an EPS classic, so maybe I'm biased... -s!mon From undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjfennem Tue Jul 6 19:52:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.97.204.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 93 19:52 PDT Received: from descartes.uwaterloo.ca by undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca id <43213-1>; Tue, 6 Jul 1993 22:52:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 22:48:01 -0400 From: "Ryan J. Fennema" Subject: EPS Hard Drive Capacity To: "EPS (R. Fennema)" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering ... What kind of hard-drive capacity is typical for EPS drives? ie. drive capacity (unformatted) = ? drive capacity (formatted) = ? BTW, I don't have a hard-drive, as of yet. Your experiences would be of interest, ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= __ ___ /__) /__/ /__/ /\ / Ryan J. Fennema rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca / \ __/ / / / \/ University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Wed Jul 7 05:45:26 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 7 Jul 93 05:45 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA15088; Wed, 7 Jul 93 08:48:06 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C3AEFF5@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Wed, 07 Jul 93 08:47:01 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: sg1q+@andrew.cmu.edu, * EPS List Subject: Simple questions Date: Wed, 07 Jul 93 08:44:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C3AEFF5@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 s!mon sez: (sorry, I couldn't resist =) "2. I also have a DR-660 drum machine. I've created a dummy instrument to play the DR-660 from the EPS. For the most part this is really cool, but the velocity coming out of the EPS is not high enough to mimic hitting the pads on the drum machine itself. Even with the touch set to `Soft 1,' I can still get louder sounds by hitting the pads on the DR-660, than the keys of the EPS." I've also had difficulty getting velocity values to match between the EPS and percussion units. It's my experience that adjusting the velocity setting on the EPS keyboard doesn't do much good in terms of fixing the problem. The best way IMHO to address the problem is to adjust the velocity sensitivity on your drum unit. Unfortunately, the solution is frequently to turn velocity sensing completly off. g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Thu Jul 8 05:56:43 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.128.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 8 Jul 93 05:55 PDT Received: from perth.DIALix.oz.au (DIALix.oz.au [192.203.228.2]) by uniwa (8.1C/8.1) with SMTP id UAA20320; Thu, 8 Jul 1993 20:54:54 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.dialix.oz.auĝ A by perth.DIALix.oz.au with UUCP id AA13640 (5.67a/IDA-1.5); Thu, 8 Jul 1993 20:54:50 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00aaa; Wed, 7 Jul 93 20:22:43 PST Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 20:22:43 PST Message-Id: <9307080422.AA00aa9@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> In-Reply-To: <9307061448.AA04415@elm.circa.ufl.edu> (from mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider)) (at Tue, 6 Jul 93 10:48:21 -0400) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 1.19) Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: FTP schtuff >From the desk of Mark Schneider: > I'm not sure that a FAQ exists. Here is our "Survival Kit" - maybe that > is our FAQ. Anyway, it has good information. This may be an old version. > > -Mark Schneider > mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu Hi Mark, There sure is a FAQ and I am now posting it monthly. I have sent a copy off to Paul, thanks. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (295 3359). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Fri Jul 9 06:26:39 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 9 Jul 93 06:26 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA17622; Fri, 9 Jul 93 09:29:09 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C3D9C99@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Fri, 09 Jul 93 09:28:09 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Questions aboat TS10 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 93 09:24:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C3D9C99@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 39 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Excited by all of the *neato* features of the TS-10, I decided to go down to Lentine's, Cleveland's Ensoniq dealer, and try it out. Unfortunatly, I have to say that it sounded kinda wimpy =( As an EPS owner, I've been really looking forward to this 'board because I saw it as a great solution to playing out...I could load all the samples _and_ have the synth patches I needed in one box...simplicity itself. Despite the fact that I really WANTED it to sound good, I found the preset sounds to be lacking a certain *oomph* that I've seen demonstrated in other synths. I recently bought a Korg Wavestation EX which blows the TS-10 out of the water in terms of sustained synthy sounds, and a Korg 01/W which blows both out of the water in all areas. I'm sure that a lot of this is subjective, but the TS-10 seemed to have too many "real" sounding patches, and not a whole lot of interesting patches that show off the weird synthesis capabilities of the keyboard, which I assume are buried in there somewhere. To it's defense, I have to say that I did find one extremely good synth bass patch that I'm going to have to sample if I get the chance =). Once again, to cite another example, I was playing with their Kurtzweil K2000. Compared to the TS-10, it had many more interesting sounds and much more dynamics. Maybe I don't understand Ensoniq synths...my complaint of them has always been that their patches just aren't that interesting. Of course I know that there's more to a synth than it's preset patches, but if nothing there inspires me, I'm certainly not motivated to drop $2000+ dollars on it. Just my $.02 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com!borch Fri Jul 9 07:28:40 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.94.94.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 9 Jul 93 07:28 PDT Received: from tilde.csc.ti.com ([128.247.160.56]) by ti.com with SMTP (5.65c/LAI-3.2) id AA08393; Fri, 9 Jul 1993 09:35:35 -0500 Received: from vault.tsd.itg.ti.com by tilde.csc.ti.com id AA26643; Fri, 9 Jul 1993 09:25:13 -0500 Received: from ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com by vault.tsd.itg.ti.com with SMTP (5.65c/Ozone-Master-1.2) id AA02429; Fri, 9 Jul 1993 09:23:53 -0500 Received: by ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16783; Fri, 9 Jul 93 09:25:07 CDT Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 09:25:07 CDT From: borch@ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com (Mark Borcherding) Message-Id: <9307091425.AA16783@ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Questions aboat TS10 > Excited by all of the *neato* features of the TS-10, I decided to go down to > Lentine's, Cleveland's Ensoniq dealer, and try it out. Unfortunatly, I have > to say that it sounded kinda wimpy =( > I agree. I too went down to local music store and gave it a test drive and was disappointed. I have an EPS and see no reason to get a TS-10. > Despite the fact that I really WANTED it to sound good, I found the preset > sounds to be lacking a certain *oomph* that I've seen demonstrated in other > synths. I recently bought a Korg Wavestation EX which blows the TS-10 out of > the water in terms of sustained synthy sounds, and a Korg 01/W which blows > both out of the water in all areas. I'm sure that a lot of this is > subjective, but the TS-10 seemed to have too many "real" sounding patches, > and not a whole lot of interesting patches that show off the weird synthesis > capabilities of the keyboard, which I assume are buried in there somewhere. > I agree TS-10 presets seemed poor. I have a Korg 01/W. I was inspired by its presets. I could tell from them the synth was good and I could have fun and create with it. I have created alot of my own programs and combinations for it as well. But presets should show off what a board can do! > Maybe I don't understand Ensoniq synths...my complaint of them has always > been that their patches just aren't that interesting. Of course I know that > there's more to a synth than it's preset patches, but if nothing there > inspires me, I'm certainly not motivated to drop $2000+ dollars on it. > Thats the purpose of presets to convince you the synths worth buying. Mark Borcherding From bronze.lcs.mit.edu!jna Fri Jul 9 12:10:59 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 18.30.0.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 9 Jul 93 12:10 PDT Received: by bronze.lcs.mit.edu id AA28716; Fri, 9 Jul 93 14:09:22 EST Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 14:09:22 EST From: jna@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (We are One) Message-Id: <9307091909.AA28716@bronze.lcs.mit.edu> To: borch@ugli.tsd.itg.ti.com, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Questions aboat TS10 I used to have a wavestation EX, but sold it to get a bunch of other equiptment (got bored of my EX,, but would love to have it back!) The problem with the wavestation EX , is that it's so so so reconize able... if you hear it in any songs, you'll be able to tell it's a wavestation.. :) I'd rather have an o1/w.. -john From UKCC.UKY.EDU!UKCC.UKY.EDU!DANEWT00 Sat Jul 10 07:16:30 1993 Return-Path: <@UKCC.UKY.EDU:DANEWT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU> Received: from 128.163.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 10 Jul 93 07:16 PDT Message-Id: Received: from UKCC.UKY.EDU by UKCC.uky.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5742; Sat, 10 Jul 93 10:15:29 EDT Received: from ukcc.uky.edu (NJE origin DANEWT00@UKCC) by UKCC.UKY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3798; Sat, 10 Jul 1993 10:15:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 93 10:08:07 EDT From: Dwight Newton Subject: Xfering soundfile to/from Archives? To: eps@reed.edu The FAQ says "Ask the group how to join in" so here goes. What is the procedure for swapping samples to/from the archives? I have the addresses, etc., but I don't know how to get a sample file from my PC to the EPS (16+). I presume the EPS/DOS formats are not compatible? Is there software (preferably PD) to make this work? Is there a way to uuencode samples in order to email to individuals? Please make suggestions as non- technical as possible :-). Thanx. -D. From sdcc13.UCSD.EDU!mcarlsso Mon Jul 12 18:58:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.54.16.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Jul 93 18:58 PDT Received: from sdcc13.ucsd.edu by ucsd.edu; id AA22945 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Mon, 12 Jul 93 18:57:59 -0700 for eps@reed.edu Received: by sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (5.60/UCSDGENERIC2) id AA02593 for eps@reed.edu; Mon, 12 Jul 93 18:57:44 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 18:57:44 PDT From: mcarlsso@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Mars) Message-Id: <9307130157.AA02593@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Some questions 1/ Anyone think that the ASR10-R kicks K2000RS booty??? I am about to get an ASR10-R but I am still not really sure... 2/ What is the EPS sample library like??? Are there many cool synth sounds made by Ensoniq?? 3/ Are there any ftp sites for EPS/ASR sounds, specifically good synth/techno analog pads/stabs and stuff like percussive piano and M1 organ sounds... Thanks From vars.com!ewv Mon Jul 12 23:55:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.195.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Jul 93 23:55 PDT Received: by aspen.Craycos.COM (4.1/TotalHack-4.1) id AA03323; Tue, 13 Jul 93 00:55:36 MDT Received: by zoom.vars.com (4.1/ewv-4.1) id AA00760; Tue, 13 Jul 93 00:54:13 MDT Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 00:54:13 MDT From: ewv@vars.com (Eric Varsanyi) Message-Id: <9307130654.AA00760@zoom.vars.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Another new user Well, I just signed up and downloaded the digests from ftp.reed.edu. I grepped around for an hour or so and have some questions (which I would be happy to FAQify once I get it figured out): What is the GHK file format, what reads it and what writes it? How do I get PD samples from the archive and onto my EPS+? Do I have to buy the disk utilities listed in the FAQ or is there PD stuff to do it? I've got a 386... Can I do all this without having a MIDI PC interface (all through floppies)? I apologize if these questions are tiring and I missed the answers in the digests (theres a boatload of good info there), I would be quite willing to summarize these FAQ's and submit the result to the FAQ keeper... I've got an EPS-16+ with SCSI (I'm in SCSI hell at the moment) and a couple of 140M SCSI disks. Its a rackmount and I'm running it from a Yamaha SY35. My biggest problem is that when using the EPS to run the tone generators on the SY35 (with local off on the SY35) aftertouch messages are getting corrupted by the EPS-16, Ensoniq hasn't a clue... -Eric Varsanyi ewv@vars.com From huey.wst.com!jay Tue Jul 13 07:08:18 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 149.114.3.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 13 Jul 93 07:08 PDT Received: by huey.wst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21762; Tue, 13 Jul 93 09:09:18 CDT Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 09:09:18 CDT From: jay@huey.wst.com (Jay Prince) Message-Id: <9307131409.AA21762@huey.wst.com> To: mcarlsso@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Mars's message of Mon, 12 Jul 93 18:57:44 PDT <9307130157.AA02593@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU> Subject: Some questions 1/ Anyone think that the ASR10-R kicks K2000RS booty??? I am about to get an ASR10-R but I am still not really sure... Not at all. Trust me, the K2000 is a much better synth than the ASR-10. The ASR-10 is better if you already have a large EPS library and don't need the advanced synthesis capabilities of the K2000. (Also, the K2000's sequencer and effects processors are not as good, but the sytnhesis capability of the K2000 outshines everything else on the market. Whereas the ASR-10 is a sampler that has some synthesis features, the K2000 is a synthesizer that is also a sampler. IE. The K2000 is more of a sampler than the ASR-10 is a synthesizer) Jay From Ensoniq.COM!bill Wed Jul 14 16:28:17 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 14 Jul 93 16:27 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA01909; Wed, 14 Jul 93 19:27:32 EDT X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA07416; Wed, 14 Jul 93 19:26:34 EDT Message-Id: <9307142326.AA07416@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA05421; Wed, 14 Jul 93 19:27:56 EDT Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 19:27:56 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: K2000 vs ASR-10 synthesis 1/ Anyone think that the ASR10-R kicks K2000RS booty??? I am about to get an ASR10-R but I am still not really sure... Jay answers: Not at all. Trust me, the K2000 is a much better synth than the ASR-10. ...The K2000 is more of a sampler than the ASR-10 is a synthesizer. Grrrr... now you've got my attention... I looked at all those "advanced synthesis capabilities" in the K2000. Somehow, being able to play a sawtooth wave along with a sample didn't seem so advanced. The distortion-based things are interesting, but they make everything sound the same. And then there are filters. Excuse me, but what is so advanced about a filter? Whats missing is any kind of synthesis which requires time delays or tables, which are most of the known synthesis techniques. (Waveguides, physical modeling...) On the other side, the ASR may be a little misunderstood, or underused, but it doesn't lack in synthesis capability. Loop modulation includes two types of "transwaves." LoopStart-X gives you the equivelent of SYNC on old analog gear, while regular transwave "wave sequencing" gives you all that PPG animated waveforms. Then there's all the wild stuff people do with the loop modulation over rhythm tracks. Now I'll just lightly skip over the ability to dynamically crossfade up to 8 layers with any modulation source and get right to the heart of the matter: the effects processor and the ability to resample. Resample a sound through EQ; resample it again through a guitar amp; resample it again through a pitch shifter; resample it again through an eight voice chorus. Then compare the output to the K2000's "VAST" capabilities. ( And did I mention the resonant filter and FM algorithms from Waveboy...) Sure, I'm very prejudiced, but I have a right to be. I'm right. Bill ensoniq From Ensoniq.COM!bill Thu Jul 15 08:28:50 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 93 08:28 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA12228; Thu, 15 Jul 93 11:28:27 EDT X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA11140; Thu, 15 Jul 93 11:27:29 EDT Message-Id: <9307151527.AA11140@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA05596; Thu, 15 Jul 93 11:28:49 EDT Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 11:28:49 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: oscillator chips Danw@msc asked me: BTW, please clarify, if you can, the difference in the TS-10's OSC chip vs. that of the SD-1. I'm under the impression that they are quite different, as the SD sequences/voices are no longer compatable with those of the TS-10. So, since I'm in verbose, mode, I shoot it to the list... The TS-10 and the ASR-10 use the Ensoniq OTTO chip, as opposed to OTIS in the SD, EPS-16, and SQ products. Both chips have 32 voices and digital filters. The OTTO also has a larger address space (8 Meg samples) and hardware envelopes. Its the envelopes that make the TS-10 sound different; the two should be equivalent on a steady-state sound. (Which never happens in real music...) The incompatibility of the sounds is due to the different sound roms. The incompatibility of the sequences is due to the added number of track parameters. (attack, brightness, etc). The sequences could be converted pretty easily. Bill ensoniq From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Thu Jul 15 10:27:26 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 93 10:27 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA21025 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:26:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Why To: bill@ensoniq.com Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9307151527.AA11140@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bill, I love my Ensoniq EPS sampler but I take quite a bit of ribbing from Akai owners about the operating system. I have yet to find one Ensoniq rep who honestly answered the following question: Why do Ensoniq samplers crash so much? Joe -<><><><><><><><><)-]187--Number-of-da-Analog-Beast--[-(><><><><><><><><><><><>- |Sub.bass.Frequency.Percolator| | -^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-~ From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Jul 15 12:11:43 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 93 12:11 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA25149; Thu, 15 Jul 93 15:14:13 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C45D689@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 15 Jul 93 15:13:29 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: Re: Why? Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 15:08:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C45D689@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 15 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Why is the sky blue...wouldn't purple be prettier? Why is there a "new improved Cheer" every two years? Shouldn't it be perfect by now? Why does the EPS ask "ERROR 144 - REBOOT?"...it's not like you have a choice. With tounge planted firmly in cheek, Gregory From SSD.intel.com!niski Thu Jul 15 13:27:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.46.201.30 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:26 PDT Received: from [137.46.21.3] (macniski.ssd.intel.com) by SSD.intel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03516; Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:26:52 PDT Message-Id: <9307152026.AA03516@SSD.intel.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:26:56 -0800 To: eps@reed.edu From: niski@SSD.intel.com (Joe Niski) Subject: Re: Why? At 3:08 PM 7/15/93 -0400, Winer, Greg wrote: >Why is the sky blue...wouldn't purple be prettier? > >Why is there a "new improved Cheer" every two years? Shouldn't it be perfect >by now? > >Why does the EPS ask "ERROR 144 - REBOOT?"...it's not like you have a >choice. what? you _do_ have a choice: you can either reboot, or turn off the keyboard and play your acoustic guitar a while, to relieve the stress.............. Joe From aero.org!obrien Thu Jul 15 13:30:49 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.221.192.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:30 PDT Received: from antares.aero.org by aerospace.aero.org with SMTP (5.65c/6.0.GT) id AA01972 for eps@reed.edu; Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:30:30 -0700 Posted-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:30:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199307152030.AA01972@aerospace.aero.org> Received: from anpiel.aero.org by antares.aero.org (4.1/AMS-1.0) id AA17626 for eps@reed.edu; Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:30:29 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Why? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:26:56 -0800." <9307152026.AA03516@SSD.intel.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:30:27 -0700 From: Mike O'Brien >Why does the EPS ask "ERROR 144 - REBOOT?"...it's not like you have a >choice. Someone pointed out some time back that this is a survival. The option is offered to someone who is running the EPS code on the developmental simulator, and the choice is to reboot or drop into the debugger. The uncharitable might claim that this question was answered in the affirmative somewhat too often in the early days, leading to its being posed far too frequently today. Mike From FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU!Todd_Kaufmann Thu Jul 15 15:22:29 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.110.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 93 15:22 PDT Received: from FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU by FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU id aa07311; 15 Jul 93 18:21:51 EDT To: eps@REED.EDU Reply-to: toad@cs.cmu.edu Subject: consistent crash methods (Re: Why? ) In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:30:27 -0800. <199307152030.AA01972@aerospace.aero.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 18:21:49 -0400 Message-ID: <7309.742774909@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Todd_Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU So, does anyone have consistent ways for crashing their system? I've been keeping a log of when I crash, and what I did (approximately), but I usually don't care to try to reproduce it afterwards... I have an ASR-10 with 10M RAM, and that makes it get hot. Sometimes when I leave it on overnight, I find that it has just hung. Or I switch fx and it hangs. Bummer. Have to leave it off for a couple hours to stabilize. I'll see if I can find anything reproducible. It seems explicit crash instructions would be the best thing to give to Ensoniq to make sure the next OS version doesn't have these bugs. Or maybe there are ways around the crashes to acheive the same thing.. yeah, it is frustrating... -todd From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Thu Jul 15 21:03:21 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 93 21:03 PDT Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <295128>; Fri, 16 Jul 1993 00:02:04 -0400 Received: from terra.cse.psu.edu by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06127; Fri, 16 Jul 93 00:01:54 EDT From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9307160401.AA06127@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: Why To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 23:58:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: ; from "Joe LeSesne" at Jul 15, 93 1:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Joe LeSesne wrote: | |Bill, I love my Ensoniq EPS sampler but I take quite a bit of ribbing from |Akai owners about the operating system. I have yet to find one Ensoniq rep |who honestly answered the following question: Why do Ensoniq samplers |crash so much? | Joe If yours is like mine, ERROR 144 is a keyboard calibration/controller failure. I soldered across the jumpers in the keyboard, and that problem has disappeared. The only problem nowadays is an occasional overheat. -- Mike From elf.stuba.cs!martin Fri Jul 16 01:05:44 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 147.175.16.34 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 16 Jul 93 01:04 PDT Received: by elf.stuba.cs id AA03412 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 16 Jul 1993 10:02:30 +0200 From: Martin Grecner Message-Id: <199307160802.AA03412@elf.stuba.cs> Subject: Merging instruments on EPS-16+ To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 10:02:30 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL0] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 491 Hello, could anyone be so kind and explain me what is the most straightforward way of merging two instruments into one on EPS-16+ ? The goal is to save sequencer tracks. By now I have to desire one complete track to cowbell, for example. So what I need is to add complete or a part of one instrument to another one, without having to do it one wavesample after another. Thanks for comments. Martin Grecner martin@elf.stuba.cs Bratislava Czechoslovakia From psuvax1.cse.psu.edu!sol4.cse.psu.edu!mchen Fri Jul 16 09:24:55 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 16 Jul 93 09:24 PDT Received: from sol4.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.2.8]) by psuvax1.cse.psu.edu with SMTP id <294394>; Fri, 16 Jul 1993 12:24:16 -0400 Received: from terra.cse.psu.edu by sol4.cse.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06968; Fri, 16 Jul 93 12:24:04 EDT From: mchen@sol4.cse.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9307161624.AA06968@sol4.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: EPS To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 12:20:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: ; from "mchen" at Jul 16, 93 12:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] |Mark Borcherding wrote: || ||Can you give me more details on what you soldered? How did you find out ||about this modification? || ||Mark Borcherding | |Someone on net told me how. Ensoniq was fixing some of them under warranty |some time ago... | |Anyway, if you open up the EPS and unscrew the keyboard, you'll notice that |the bottom has two PC boards on it. They are connected by a jumper bridge |of some strange sort, which apparently gives intermittent problems when warm. | |Take out the middle octave or so, and you can see the pins for yourself |from the top. The fix is to solder little pieces of flexible wire across |the bridge for all 12 pins. You have to use flexible wires because the |keys are right on top of that, and if you use stiffer wires (as I did the |first time) you'll break them off while playing. | |-- Mike | | | From huey.wst.com!jay Fri Jul 16 09:39:04 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 149.114.3.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 16 Jul 93 09:38 PDT Received: by huey.wst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05948; Fri, 16 Jul 93 11:37:25 CDT Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 11:37:25 CDT From: jay@huey.wst.com (Jay Prince) Message-Id: <9307161637.AA05948@huey.wst.com> To: bill@Ensoniq.COM Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: bill@Ensoniq.COM's message of Wed, 14 Jul 93 19:27:56 EDT <9307142326.AA07416@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Subject: K2000 vs ASR-10 synthesis Jay answers: ...The K2000 is more of a sampler than the ASR-10 is a synthesizer. Bill Says: >Somehow, being able to play a sawtooth wave along with a sample didn't seem >so advanced. Uh, yeah, but that isn't exaclty the only think the VAST architecture allows. But, this is an example of just ONE of the things you can do with the K2000's synthesis architecutre. > The distortion-based things are interesting, but they make everything >sound the same. No they don't. It is trivial to make distortion respond to velocity-- ie: on a not by note basis, so that some of the notes are distorted and some of them aren't... and then bring in one of those useless added sawtooth waves based on aftertouch for a nice guitar with controllable distortion and feedback. (without even using the effects processor.) > And then there are filters. Excuse me, but what is so advanced about a >filter? and then later... > And did I mention the resonant filter and FM > algorithms from Waveboy... Hmm.. well, that would be resonant filters in the EFFECTS unit, right? Not much good for multi-timberal playing. On the K2000 the resonant filters are built in.... and a controllable on a per-voice or per-note basis. Filters are a straightforward subtractive synthesis feature, but the K2000 provides more filters with more routings and combinations of panning, waveshaping and other processing than any other synth on the market. Rather than having only the straight Oscillator-Envelop-Processing-Filter- Output path of almost every other synth on the market, ; on the K2000 you can reconfigure the architecture such that these and other items can come in any order. For instance, you can take a sample, filter out part of it using a resonant filter, waveshape it, add distortion and then filter it again. > Whats missing is any kind of synthesis which requires time delays or > tables, which are most of the known synthesis techniques. (Waveguides, > physical modeling...) And the TS-10 or ASR-10 do this? > Loop modulation includes two types of > "transwaves." The K2000 doesn't have loop modulation (yet). You got me there. > LoopStart-X gives you the equivelent of SYNC on old analog gear, The K2000 does have SYNC as well. > while regular transwave "wave sequencing" gives you all that PPG animated > waveforms. Which, of course, you can do on the K2000 as well if you have the sampling option. Now he gets to the "heart of the matter": > effects processor and the ability to resample. >Resample a sound through EQ; >resample it again through a guitar amp; >resample it again through a pitch shifter; >resample it again through an eight voice chorus. Which, of course, you can do on the K2000! Did you not know this? > Then compare the output to the > K2000's "VAST" capabilities. Well, since you can resample like this, you can generate samples of equal quality on the K2000.... but the VAST capabilities can be added at any of the steps in the above process to add more processing. And, as well, your resampling scheme there can't be compared to the functionality of VAST since you're talking about a process that can't be modulated IN REAL TIME-- VAST is completely controlled by the 128 mod sources on the K2000. (and, once again, the K2000 can RESAMPLE! (with effects.. with external effects)) > And did I mention the resonant filter and FM algorithms from Waveboy...) [The next part from hdan@wst.com, a loyal SQ1+32 owner] My compadre already addressed the resonant filter issue (doesn't work well for multi-timberal situations), and the same holds for the FM algorithm, since it only kicks in at the effect stage. But there is a more serious limitation on the FM, in that the Modulator and Carrier come from THE SAME SAMPLE! One is taken from the left pan, and one from the right. So, if you make a special sample with the appropriate waves panned left and right, you might be able to get about 1/2 of a Soundblaster's worth of FM synthesis. (I also have a DX7, and I'm used to 6 operator FM, not "2 operator"). That being said, I think it's DARNED IMPRESSIVE that these two "effects" can even be added to an EPS/ASR family sampler! [back to Jay@wst.com] And, being glad to see that Waveboy hasn't been sued by Yamaha, I look forward to the revision of my K2000's software that includes good FM synthesis. One nice thing abotu the VAST architecture is that since it is implemented as programs you choose for the DSP chips, it will be a simple matter for Kurzweil to add FM as one of the algorythems you have to choose from.... again on a voice by voice basis. > Sure, I'm very prejudiced, but I have a right to be. I'm right. Yeah, ok. I should mention I love ensoniq's products and nearly bought a EPS-16+ last summer. I think the ASR-10 is a great successor to the EPS-16 and if what you need is a sampler, it fits the bill. But, if you want to be able to sample and have advanced synthesis capabilities, I think the K2000 with sampling option is a much better solution. (and much cheaper than the ASR-10 and TS-10 combination) > Bill > ensoniq Jay