From acs.wooster.edu!WSCOTT Mon May 10 09:54:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 140.103.29.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 May 93 09:54 PDT Received: from acs.wooster.edu by acs.wooster.edu (PMDF #3204 ) id <01GY0EHDJ0BQ8X06NM@acs.wooster.edu>; Mon, 10 May 1993 12:53:55 EST Date: 10 May 1993 12:53:55 -0500 (EST) From: WSCOTT@acs.wooster.edu Subject: ASR10 is a Hot box To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GY0EHDJ0BS8X06NM@acs.wooster.edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I recently expanded the memory in my ASR10 rackmount to 10Meg and it is **very** warm to touch now. Should I be worried about this? I actually didn't notice if it was hot before I increased the memory. Bill Scott From moon.nbn.com!cyberden!spinme Tue May 11 05:57:16 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.132.30.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 May 93 05:55 PDT Received: from cyberden.UUCP by nkosi.well.sf.ca.us with UUCP id AA26940 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 11 May 1993 05:55:42 -0700 Received: from cyberden.UUCP by moon.nbn.com (4.1/NBN-16/MOON-62) id AA03953; Tue, 11 May 93 05:53:34 PDT Received: by cyberden.sf.ca.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 11 May 93 05:26:02 PDT for eps@reed.edu To: eps@reed.edu Subject: AIFFs From: spinme@cyberden.sf.ca.us Reply-To: spinme@cyberden.sf.ca.us Comments: CyberMember Message-Id: <53wD4B1w165w@cyberden.sf.ca.us> Date: Tue, 11 May 93 05:12:15 PDT Organization: Indescribable Creations OK- gather 'round.. poor, confused little chickens.. I had hoped that someone more fond of authoring great seas of text would step forward and do this, as I so hate typing (unlike complaining, eh?) Anyway, I seem to be the only person in this here cybernetic cubby-hole who knows the glorious virtue of STANDARDS, to which the AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format) aspires being. Beside that, since I _AM_ the proud originator of all of those .aif files, past and present, I suppose at some point I owe you all an index or at least an "I'm u/l'ing blah blah blah.." notice, so then this will suffice. AIFFs are (briefly): Audio data files. The header contains various information, such as bit-length, sample rate, number of channels, loop-points, where all the data is, etc. I'll upload a (much) more detailed, technical specification sometime soon. (Actually, by the time I mailed this I have already done so..) If a widely accepted, universally supported, PRO standard for computer-based audio media exists, then this is it. What, in the name of Ed Asner, can a person DO with the stinking bloated things? Well, most of the AIFFs I've uploaded are breakbeats (drum and otherwise percussive loops), although there were some instrument (synth) multisamples and so forth among the uploads of a few months ago. In any case, the latest (numbered) files are all drum loops. Theyre all 16 bit, 44.1K.. Even though they are looped, the loops arent perfect (Ive never seen a perfect loop when it comes to staying in time - I suggest triggering every measure or two, whatevers called for.) So how about it??! We all KNOW there isnt enough TECHNO out there!!! So make your own! Or do something creative.. Anyway, philosophically speaking, I am of the opinion that the line is getting VERY blurry in between sequenced and performed material, and no matter what type of music youre into: styles of composing, arranging, ANDrecording have been irrevocably altered by this new ability to not only sequence individual notes, but whole chunks of sound. Software I use for audio manipulation: * Alchemy 2.6 (The king of the hill) * Sound Designer 2.02 (sucks, but the looping is ok and "scrubbing" is cool.) Turbosynth 2.0 (CRUSH! Won't go into it here, but: Buy a mac to use this.) * SoundEditPro 1.0 (Actually, I use this more than I care to admit. Great interface.. if only it did it's DSP on 16bit 44.1K files and had pro looping stuff it'd be my pick..) * Sound Hack .060 (available at any biggish internet mac archive. Awesome time compression/expansion. Use this to convert files if you have a Mac.) And, of course, a myriad of other little programs and utilities for conversion and wierd stuff.. Also Softsynth, Deck, and other things that don't pertain to the subject at hand. If you have a PC (or a Mac with SoftPC) you ought to get SOX if you don't have it already. It converts just about any audio format to any other. I uploaded it a few days ago. That's about it in a nutshell.. Later. -p __________________________________________________________________________ | / |\ | H E \ Y B E R |/ E N [ spinme@cyberden.sf.ca.us ] The CyberDen - Public Access Waffle Usenet System - 415/472-5527 From greyrock.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Tue May 11 11:11:46 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 May 93 11:10 PDT Received: from greyrock.ACNS.ColoState.EDU by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA100435; Tue, 11 May 1993 12:10:22 -0600 Received: by greyrock (NX5.67c/SMI-DDN) id AA03676; Tue, 11 May 93 11:05:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 May 93 11:05:17 -0700 From: eroth@greyrock.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Edward Roth) Message-Id: <9305111805.AA03676@greyrock> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Unsubscribe Thanks for the virtual memories. I am leaving my job and more importantly, my internet connection. Please remove my name from the list. Ed Roth eroth@yuma.acns.colostate.edu From apple.com!uuwest!spinme Tue May 11 16:41:33 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.43.2.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 May 93 16:40 PDT Received: by apple.com (5.61/7-Aug-1992-eef) id AA09734; Tue, 11 May 93 16:38:11 -0700 for Received: by west.darkside.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 11 May 93 14:36:04 PDT for eps@reed.edu To: eps@reed.edu Subject: re: deletion of AIFFs and my forseeable crisping From: spinme@west.darkside.com (Spin Me) Comments: If the phone doesn't ring, it's me Message-Id: <8PLe4B1w165w@west.darkside.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 93 14:04:30 PDT Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM Uhh.. it's like this: While writing that blurb about the AIFF files I uploaded, interruption was ceaseless.. I've got a lot of stuff going on, and so in fact I wrote it almost literally a few sentences at a time over the course of three days. (No, I don't write that slowly - you'll just have to trust me; it's been hell.) Anyway, when I finally had a second to finish and mail it, I did so without reading my new mail.. the spirit of which seemed to be "Hey, well, nobody seems to know what to do with this stuff and it IS clogging up the archive and so what the hell..?" If I HAD read that beforehand, I would have changed the entire tone of the thing, because in light of the genuine confusion going on I feel that it must have come across as rather arrogant and condescending.. which was NOT my attitude when composing it. It was meant to be taken lightly. So I guess that's what I wanted to say before ruffled feathers (haha.. sorry, can't help myself.. :^) caused: A. my being mercilessly flamed (which I'm sure I'm too late to avoid, but oh well, that's not as worrysome as..) B> the files dusted. About that, I just want to *strongly* urge everybody to hear a couple of 'em first (as well as some of the basses and stuf from a while ago).. They really ARE very cool. And emmenently (sp?) useful. Please. It would bebe a shame if you didn't. -paul From hurricane.seas.ucla.edu!chenc Tue May 11 18:13:14 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 164.67.100.93 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 May 93 18:11 PDT Received: by hurricane.seas.ucla.edu.seas.ucla.edu (5.65/1.37(UCLA esa 1.004)) id AA12347; Tue, 11 May 93 18:12:06 -0700 From: chenc@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu (Thunderfoot) Message-Id: <9305120112.AA12347@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu.seas.ucla.edu> Subject: re: deletion of AIFFs and my forseeable crisping To: eps@reed.edu (EPS mailing list at Reed) Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 18:12:06 -0800 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 717 In reply to Spin Me: > About that, I just want to *strongly* urge everybody to hear a couple of > 'em first (as well as some of the basses and stuf from a while ago).. > They really ARE very cool. And emmenently (sp?) useful. Please. It would bebe > a shame if you didn't. > Please! Don't delete those files. I was just about to get some of those after Paul said what was in them. Can somebody please put them back? Chris ________________________________________________________________________ Thunderfoot chenc@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu Bare Power Performance, Inc. PGP key available by finger or request -=| All opinions expressed are mine (or someone else's) |=- From horde Tue May 11 18:58:00 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 May 93 18:57 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1993 18:50:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: [FTP site] re: deletion of AIFFs and my forseeable crisping To: Thunderfoot cc: EPS mailing list at Reed In-Reply-To: <9305120112.AA12347@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu.seas.ucla.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 May 1993, Thunderfoot wrote: > Please! Don't delete those files. I was just about to get some of > those after Paul said what was in them. Can somebody please put them There was a power outage today which knocked ftp.reed.edu silly for a hour or so, but its back again. The *.aif files are still around. They're in ftp.reed.edu:/pub/eps/incoming/aif They are all gzip'd so you'll need to get a copy of gunzip to uncompress them. Sorry, but I needed to make some space available. There's now about 10M left on the ftp disk. It'll be several weeks before I can get a different machine to use as an ftp server. I'll be gone for about a week (Thur - Mon) for vacation so try not to break the ftp server in that time okay? ;) ;) ;) -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) Unix Systems Manager, Reed College From shannon.ee.wits.ac.za!underdog!SHULMAN Wed May 12 01:36:08 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.141.16.134 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 May 93 01:35 PDT Received: by shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.3) id ; Wed, 12 May 93 10:43 EET Received: From WITS_EE2/WORKQUEUE by cerberus.ee.wits.ac.za via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.930512103346.336; 12 May 93 10:33:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: eps@reed.edu From: "Steve Shulman" Date: 12 May 93 10:33:50 SAT Subject: Sequences Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4). I know this is probably a VERY stupid question, but I just got the MAM demo from the FTP site and I've only got some sounds - no sequences. Are there any for this demo ? Is it perhaps not possible to transfer sequences using GKH files ?? If there are sequences for this demo, please would someone tell me how I can get them. I downloaded all three disks and all the sounds came out fine, but ... Thanks Steve. _/_/_/_/ Steve Shulman _/_/_/_/ _/ shulman@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za _/ _/_/_/_/ Electrical Engineering Dept. _/_/_/_/ _/ Wits University _/ _/_/_/_/ South Africa _/_/_/_/ "What is already known, need not be discussed" - Van Halen Rock Rules ! From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Wed May 12 03:28:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 May 93 03:27 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <03680-0@pat.uio.no>; Wed, 12 May 1993 12:27:15 +0200 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Wed, 12 May 1993 12:27:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 12:27:06 +0200 Message-Id: <9305121027.AAfidibus10020@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad X-Sender: tgf@fidibus Subject: Re: Sequences...MAM, ASR 10 Steve Shulman wrote from his underdog: >I know this is probably a VERY stupid question, No, but it has been answered very recently :) > but I just got the >MAM demo from the FTP site and I've only got some sounds - no >sequences. Are there any for this demo ? >Is it perhaps not possible to transfer sequences using GKH files ?? > >If there are sequences for this demo, please would someone tell me >how I can get them. I downloaded all three disks and all the sounds >came out fine, but ... > You don't tell what sampler you have. The ASR 10 sequences are different from the 16+ sequences which are again different from the EPS 13-(=classic) sequences. The MAM sequences are ASR 10 sequences. The 13- and the 16+ sampler will not load these sequences. The same goes for the Banks and the EFFECTS that are generated on the ASR-10. So to answer Steve's specific questions: The sequences are transferred just fine with using what you call GKH files. The sequences are on your floppy. Your sampler will just not explicitely tell you that they are there, and you cannot use them unless you have an ASR-10. ( Maybe you have a casio sampler, then none of this helps you ). ( Maybe you also are using the well known program that will let you transfer GKH files to sound effects and mods for the well known computer game TrashCastle ?. I have assumed not ) ================ A similar situation apply to 16+ sequences, songs, banks and effects. You cannot use those on the 13-. The other way around works fine. Maybe an ASR 10 owner can tell us whether the ASR will read and convert 13- files as the 16+ will? I would assume the asr10 will convert 16+ sequences. Does it attempt at converting 16+ effects also? I did convert one of the single sequences on MAM to a 13- sequence by software and believe that worked out OK, but I have no way to compare to the original. Can the asr10 have pure audio tracks in the sequences? ( or only in the songs ?) and is that the main difference between 16+ and asr10 sequences? tgf From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Wed May 12 06:58:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 May 93 06:57 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA16483; Wed, 12 May 93 10:00:27 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2BF12D5D@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Wed, 12 May 93 10:01:17 EDT From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu To: eps@reed.edu Subject: re: [FTP site] re: deletion of AIFFs and Date: Wed, 12 May 93 09:57:00 EDT Message-Id: <2BF12D5D@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I love when message headers start looking weird like that =) "They are all gzip'd so you'll need to get a copy of gunzip to uncompress them. Sorry, but I needed to make some space available." What the heck is "gunzip", and where do I get a copy for an MS-DOS machine? Maybe that's why the SOX program didn't pkunzip correctly when I d/l it from Reed? Arghh! gregory From mel.dit.csiro.au!brian Wed May 12 17:38:24 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 144.110.16.11 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 May 93 17:37 PDT Received: from ruffy.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU by shark.mel.dit.csiro.au with SMTP id AA16367 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/DIT-1.3 for ); Thu, 13 May 1993 10:37:31 +1000 Received: by ruffy.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22224; Thu, 13 May 93 10:37:12 EST Message-Id: <9305130037.AA22224@ruffy.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: effects within the EPS 16+ Date: Thu, 13 May 93 10:37:11 +1000 From: brian G'day, Novice user question here. After starting off with the basics of the on board sequencer and assigning effects to a couple of instruments (using different ROM effects for 2 different instruments) I couldn't seem to assign different effects to the 2 instruments. The currently selected effect applied to both instruments. Can you only have one 'keyboard' resident effect at any one point in time or have I just not read the manaual properly? ;) I'd assume I'd be able to assign separate effects to separate instruments whilst the different instruments are loaded into the EPS. regards, brian From shannon.ee.wits.ac.za!underdog!SHULMAN Thu May 13 02:06:52 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.141.16.134 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 May 93 02:06 PDT Received: by shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.3) id ; Thu, 13 May 93 10:17 EET Received: From WITS_EE2/WORKQUEUE by cerberus.ee.wits.ac.za via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.930513100741.416; 13 May 93 10:07:48 +0200 Message-ID: To: eps@reed.edu From: "Steve Shulman" Date: 13 May 93 10:07:51 SAT Subject: Waveboy effects Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4). Does anyone have some info for me on those extra Waveboy effects for the 16+ (ie what effects they are, how much and where I can get them) There's DEFINITELY nothing of this sort in this pathetic country, so I'll be ordering from the U.S Thanks Steve _/_/_/_/ Steve Shulman _/_/_/_/ _/ shulman@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za _/ _/_/_/_/ Electrical Engineering Dept. _/_/_/_/ _/ Wits University _/ _/_/_/_/ South Africa _/_/_/_/ "What is already known, need not be discussed" - Van Halen Rock Rules ! From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Thu May 13 03:36:43 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 May 93 03:36 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA18233; Thu, 13 May 1993 20:36:23 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: from perth.dialix.oz.au (DIALix.oz.au) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au with SMTP (5.65c) id AA21544; Thu, 13 May 1993 18:36:10 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.dialix.oz.aux A by perth.dialix.oz.au with UUCP id AA14173 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for reed.edu!eps); Thu, 13 May 1993 18:36:06 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA009lc; Wed, 12 May 93 19:25:44 PST Date: Wed, 12 May 93 19:25:44 PST Message-Id: <9305130325.AA009lb@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> In-Reply-To: <9305100614.AA14860@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu> (from bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders)) (at Mon, 10 May 93 01:14:01 CDT) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 1.19) Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Space available for files... >From the desk of Barry Sanders: > > Hey, you sample hounds. I've got a li'l old Fujitsu 1.2GB drive sittin' on my > desk that's only about 1/3 full. I'll take those .aif files off your hands for > a couple of weeks. Only problem is, it'll take a very long time to download > 'em all. I can usually get 5000+ bytes/sec throughput late at night, so maybe > I'll just grab 'em tonight and let my Fetch program run all night long. Hope > that's kosher 'Net practice. I'm not set up to be an ftp anonymous server, but > I can do special requests. Basically, this is a temporary batch offload to get > your sysadmin off your back, and to solve a problem for the eps'ers. > > Barry Sanders > bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu > Hi Barry, This sounds like a good temporary idea. Thanks for making the offer. Heiji - do you think this is necessary in our current situation? Tata, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (295 3359). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu!cmparris Thu May 13 09:09:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.15.20.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 May 93 09:09 PDT Received: by essex.ecn.uoknor.edu id AA05082 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 13 May 1993 11:09:38 -0500 From: Chris Michael Parrish Message-Id: <199305131609.AA05082@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu> Subject: To Terje To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 13 May 1993 11:09:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 816 Sorry for the private message in a public list, I lost Terje's address... Terje, I somehow deleted the Blank.EFE file...can I generate one in EPSm or is there a way you could send it again... BTW, I don't even have my mac in a direct internet connection, I have to dial-up and use telecom software from home, so regretablly I don't have any wonderful e-mail debinhqx'ing utility...but the xfer still worked just fine thanks....(I envy those of you with your macs online....I would just be happuy if my university would get some dial-up lines over 2400!) -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Chris Parrish | University of Oklahoma | "To share is to split..." cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu | - KMFDM From shannon.ee.wits.ac.za!underdog!SHULMAN Thu May 13 16:03:07 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.141.16.134 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 May 93 16:02 PDT Received: by shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.3) id ; Fri, 14 May 93 01:11 EET Received: From WITS_EE2/WORKQUEUE by cerberus.ee.wits.ac.za via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.930514010105.320; 14 May 93 01:01:20 +0200 Message-ID: To: eps@reed.edu From: "Steve Shulman" Date: 14 May 93 01:01:18 SAT Subject: Uncompress for DOS Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4). Please if someone has a DOS version of the Unix Uncompress command, would they send it to me, as I'm having really a lot of trouble uncompressing the PD samples (I don't have access to unix, only ftp) Thanks in advance. Steve. _/_/_/_/ Steve Shulman _/_/_/_/ _/ shulman@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za _/ _/_/_/_/ Electrical Engineering Dept. _/_/_/_/ _/ Wits University _/ _/_/_/_/ South Africa _/_/_/_/ "What is already known, need not be discussed" - Van Halen Rock Rules ! From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Sat May 15 16:04:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 15 May 93 16:02 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <27556-0@pat.uio.no>; Sun, 16 May 1993 01:02:50 +0200 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Sun, 16 May 1993 01:02:47 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 May 1993 01:02:47 +0200 Message-Id: <9305152302.AAfidibus05591@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad X-Sender: tgf@fidibus Subject: EPSm ... I uploaded a file called "black.sea" and "black.sea.readme" to the incoming. black.sea is a self extracting locked Macintosh archive containing EPSm. black.sea.readme is a textfile you can read.( well, if you can read this :-) Terje I'm not trained to deal with idiots. From ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu!MOREYLC Mon May 17 13:27:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.59.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 May 93 13:24 PDT Received: from ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF #3899 ) id <01GYABKH886O8XFUDX@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>; Mon, 17 May 1993 15:22:53 CDT Date: 17 May 1993 15:22:53 -0500 (CDT) From: MOREYLC@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu Subject: A quick poll. To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GYABKH886Q8XFUDX@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: MOREYLC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sorry, but I have to ask. I'm just wondering if anybody out there is using any of the samples I've made and uploaded lately. I figure I should ask before I bother filling up reed's machine with more. In case you haven't run across them. they are in the /pub/eps/incoming directory at last glance, and they are .GKH files using .Z compression. So, if anyone out there might be interested in more such files, send me an e-mail note. In the meantime, I'm gonna hold off burning up my connect time on these file transfers. I figure I'll keep busy by concocting new and improved samples. And, hey, don't let me stop any of YOU from uploading some new ones!!! All good wishes, Les Morey From csd4.csd.uwm.edu!boottrax Mon May 17 19:49:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.89.7.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 May 93 19:49 PDT Received: by csd4.csd.uwm.edu; id AA10544; Mon, 17 May 93 21:49:24 -0500 From: Boot Trax Message-Id: <9305180249.AA10544@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: EPS Classic - hums? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 21:49:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22beta2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1102 I got an EPS Classic about a month ago.. and I don'y know if I just haven't paid attention or if there's a new wiring problem. When I plug the EPS - either in mono mode OR stereo to my mixers (any mixer) it causes a humming noise (like something isn';t grounded) - real low hum. Now I tried different mixers, different speakers. blah blah bblah. The noise goes away when I turn off the EPS, unplug it from the mixer or turn the EPS channel off on the mixer.. The noise isdoes not get louder or softer by moving the volume lever on the EPS. The real wierd thing is that there is no noise at all when I just connect headphones to the EPS. Everything is grounded and plugged into the same breaker. Is this just another problem with Ensonique gear? Does this have to do with the impedence levels? Why don't my other synths and hardware make a noise? HELP! I can't record with the crud. -- )) Perry Lea (( (( boottrax@csd4.csd.uwm.edu )) )) boottrax@miller.cs.uwm.edu (( From hurricane.seas.ucla.edu!chenc Tue May 18 14:07:59 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 164.67.100.93 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 May 93 14:06 PDT Received: by hurricane.seas.ucla.edu.seas.ucla.edu (5.65/1.37(UCLA esa 1.004)) id AA00647; Tue, 18 May 93 14:06:14 -0700 From: chenc@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu (Thunderfoot) Message-Id: <9305182106.AA00647@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu.seas.ucla.edu> Subject: Re: EPS Classic - hums? To: eps@reed.edu (EPS mailing list at Reed) Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 14:06:14 -0800 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1060 In reply to Boot Trax: > > When I plug the EPS - either in mono mode OR stereo to my mixers (any mixer) > it causes a humming noise (like something isn';t grounded) - real low hum. > > Now I tried different mixers, different speakers. blah blah bblah. I had this problem with a old Proteus I module. You know what that is? It's a ground loop. Well, contrary to popular belief, ground loops can be CAUSED by grounding everything to the same circuit. If one thing expects the ground to be at a higher or lower level that other components, you'll get it. Cheap way to fix: disable the ground by plugging the EPS into one of those 3prong to 2prong adapters. However, this removes the grounding so you may want to attach a ground wire directly to the adapter. Chris ________________________________________________________________________ Thunderfoot chenc@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu Bare Power Performance, Inc. PGP key available by finger or request -=| All opinions expressed are mine (or someone else's) |=- From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Tue May 18 20:27:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.55.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 May 93 20:26 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA03277 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 18 May 1993 23:26:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 23:20:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Wavesample Volume raising.on EPS classic To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok here's my problem. I wish to raise the volume of a wavesample but the only method I know of doing this is using the ADD DATA command and after doing that 2 times or so it starts clipping. If I use the PREVENT CLIPPING condition, the wavesample volume isn't raised at all. I have an EPS classic. So what should I do??? I need to know ASAP. Thanks. Joe [][][][][][[]<><><<><>><187-Mobile.Live.Techno.Vibes><<><><<><>][][][][][][][] From silver.lcs.mit.edu!jna Tue May 18 21:27:15 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 18.52.0.230 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 May 93 21:26 PDT Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA25471; Wed, 19 May 93 00:26:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 93 00:26:26 -0400 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Tomorrow will bring you brighter skies) Message-Id: <9305190426.AA25471@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: chenc@hurricane.seas.ucla.edu, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: EPS Classic - hums? Oh hell, i get crosstalk all over my EPS if I'm pumping in an input signal and i'm not in sample mode... low-volume distoted sound goes straight through the DAC's into the outputline... lovely design (not).. --john From u.washington.edu!palefox Tue May 18 21:35:49 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.95.136.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 May 93 21:35 PDT Received: by hardy.u.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA23596; Tue, 18 May 93 21:35:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 May 93 21:35:29 -0700 From: INNER STEREO Message-Id: <9305190435.AA23596@hardy.u.washington.edu> Sender: palefox@hardy.u.washington.edu To: eps@reed.edu, raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us Subject: Re: Wavesample Volume raising.on EPS classic Have you trried SCALE DATA? I don't know how of any way (save an external editor) that you would be able to boost the volume more. cia-o Romeo From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue May 18 22:04:54 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 May 93 22:04 PDT Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <291815>; Wed, 19 May 1993 01:04:09 -0400 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11234; Wed, 19 May 93 01:03:21 EDT From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9305190503.AA11234@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: Output fix for EPS Classic? To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 01:03:20 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Can anyone give me any info on the output fix for EPS Classic boards they did a while ago? As far as I know, the DACs get replaced or something... -- Mike From Jetson.UH.EDU!COSC18GV Wed May 19 03:25:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 May 93 03:25 PDT Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GYCJIPFPY890PAOQ@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Wed, 19 May 1993 05:25:39 CDT Date: 19 May 1993 05:25:39 -0500 (CDT) From: COSC18GV@Jetson.UH.EDU Subject: RAW conversion To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GYCJIPFPYA90PAOQ@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Help, I need assistance in converting from Amiga "RAW" Format (or IFF) to Ensoniq. I only have access to ibm PC, so are there any convertors on PC for these Amiga formats? Please mail your assistance in a reply to me, not the eps list. Thank you very much! I'm in desparate need to know how to do this! From fl08-g.comm.mot.com!schickda Wed May 19 05:21:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 May 93 05:21 PDT Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.14 for ) id AA26074; Wed, 19 May 1993 07:21:35 -0500 Received: from comm.mot.com (il02dns1.comm.mot.com) by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.14 for ) id AA01516; Wed, 19 May 1993 07:21:34 -0500 Received: from fl08-g.comm.mot.com (node_27d3b.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10150; Wed, 19 May 93 07:24:25 CDT Received: by fl08-g.comm.mot.com (5.65c/5.17) id AA09386; Wed, 19 May 1993 08:20:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199305191220.AA09386@fl08-g.comm.mot.com> From: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com (David Schick) Date: Wed, 19 May 93 08:20:31 EDT Subject: Unsubscribe, please. To: eps@reed.edu Howdy! I tried sending an unsubscribe request to eps@board.edu, but nothing seems to have happened. I'm getting busy here at work for a while; I'm just glossing over EPS mail. Please unsubscribe me from the list; I know where 2go when I want2 resubscribe! The Metro Gnome. From UK.Sun.COM!Sean.Meads Wed May 19 06:22:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.9.9.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 May 93 06:22 PDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail.Corp.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21960; Wed, 19 May 93 06:23:32 PDT Received: from UK.Sun.COM (sunuk) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05301; Wed, 19 May 93 06:22:22 PDT Received: from watchsun.UK.Sun.COM by UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1e-UK) id AA19490; Wed, 19 May 93 14:22:19 BST Received: from mi6.UK.Sun.COM by watchsun.UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-5.0-sec(uk - sec)) id AA27563; Wed, 19 May 93 14:22:26 BST Received: by mi6.UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA21919; Wed, 19 May 93 14:22:15 BST Date: Wed, 19 May 93 14:22:15 BST From: Sean.Meads@UK.Sun.COM (Sean Meads - SUN UK - IS ) Message-Id: <9305191322.AA21919@mi6.UK.Sun.COM> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS specs content-length: 159 Hi all, Has anyone got any specs/details on the different EPS systems rack and/or stations ? ie. expandability, sampling rates, etc... cheers, Sean. From SSD.intel.com!niski Wed May 19 09:18:58 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.46.201.30 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 May 93 09:18 PDT Received: from [137.46.21.3] (macniski.ssd.intel.com) by SSD.intel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25263; Wed, 19 May 93 09:17:58 PDT Message-Id: <9305191617.AA25263@SSD.intel.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 09:17:59 -0800 To: eps@reed.edu From: niski@SSD.intel.com (Mr. Macintosh) Subject: Re: Wavesample Volume raising.on EPS classic At 11:20 PM 5/18/93 -0400, Joe LeSesne wrote: >Ok here's my problem. I wish to raise the volume of a wavesample but the >only method I know of doing this is using the ADD DATA command and after >doing that 2 times or so it starts clipping. If I use the PREVENT CLIPPING >condition, the wavesample volume isn't raised at all. >I have an EPS classic. So what should I do??? I need to know ASAP. Thanks. > Joe >[][][][][][[]<><><<><>><187-Mobile.Live.Techno.Vibes><<><><<><>][][][][][][][] i usually end up _decreasing_ the volume of other wavesamples in the instrument if i want to hear one sample above the rest (via the Edit Amp page, if memory serves...) -- it's the only way i've found that avoids nasty clipping. Have you tried Normalizing the gain on that sample first? ---------------------------------------------------- Joe Niski niski@ssd.intel.com Macintosh (yes, Macintosh) Network Admin. Intel Supercomputer Systems Division Beaverton, Oregon, USA From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Wed May 19 11:20:33 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.55.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 May 93 11:20 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA13193 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Wed, 19 May 1993 14:19:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1993 14:16:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Wavesample Volume raising.on EPS classic To: "Mr. Macintosh" Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9305191617.AA25263@SSD.intel.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [][][][][][[]<><><<><>><187-Mobile.Live.Techno.Vibes><<><><<><>][][][][][][][] On Wed, 19 May 1993, Mr. Macintosh wrote: > > i usually end up _decreasing_ the volume of other wavesamples in the > instrument if i want to hear one sample above the rest (via the Edit Amp > page, if memory serves...) -- it's the only way i've found that avoids > nasty clipping. Have you tried Normalizing the gain on that sample first? > Thanks to all who responded. The scale data thing worked to some degree but induced clipping. The wave samples were already normalized and so the next logical step was to do exactly what Mr Macintosh said above. Lower everything else. That was the only way to avoid clipping. Joe From trl.oz.au!d.barr Wed May 19 14:34:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.147.51.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 May 93 14:33 PDT Received: by nakita.trl.OZ.AU id AA29992 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 20 May 1993 07:33:35 +1000 Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 07:33:35 +1000 From: David Barr Message-Id: <199305192133.AA29992@nakita.trl.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Please SUBSCRIBE me to the EPS mailing list Hello, Please SUBSCRIBE me to the EPS mailing list. Regards, David Barr d.barr@trl.oz.au From ualr.edu!jabussey Thu May 20 06:56:49 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 May 93 06:55 PDT Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Thu, 20 May 1993 08:53 CDT Received: by ualr.edu (MX V3.2) id 13629; Thu, 20 May 1993 08:53:30 EDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 08:53:19 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: EPS classic outputs screwed! To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <0096CC74.AD0113C0.13629@ualr.edu> I have an EPS classic. When it turn it on and load a song, it works fine for about 1 min or so. Then when I hit a key, I get a screechy aliasing type sound! I am using the OEX 8- output expander and when I switch channels, it stops for a while but then comes back. This problem eventually starts in other channels too!!! I just put it in the shop yesterday. Does anyone have ANY idea of what might be going on???? Thanks, Jacque Andre' Bussey From vishnu.reed.edu!horde Thu May 20 11:28:32 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 May 93 11:28 PDT Received: from local by vishnu.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 May 93 11:28 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 93 11:28 PDT From: horde@reed.edu (Mr. Heiji Horde) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: test -Heiji From root Thu May 20 11:29:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 May 93 11:29 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 May 93 11:29 PDT From: root (Charlie Root) To: eps Subject: test #2 -Heiji From tps.com!ThomasD Thu May 20 12:44:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 May 93 11:17 PDT Received: from tps.com by csn.org with UUCP id AA13080 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Thu, 20 May 1993 12:17:43 -0600 Received: from denms411 (pcus) by denrd14 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15324; Thu, 20 May 93 11:51:35 MDT Received: by denms411 with Microsoft Mail id <2BFBC446@denms411>; Thu, 20 May 93 11:47:50 MDT From: Thomas Day To: 'EPS Users Mailbox' Subject: Me and my hardware Date: Thu, 20 May 93 11:48:00 MDT Message-Id: <2BFBC446@denms411> Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I have an EPS "Classic" and have been using it alone for quite a while, bought it new in 1990. Now, I'm trying to make it talk to Master Tracks Pro IV. It talks alright. It talks on all channels simultaneously. I have set MIDI to "Multi", set each channel to transmit on "inst", set each instrument's channel to individual channels. But when I try to play one of those instruments and have Master Tracks record what I play, every EPS instrument already recorded and played by Master Tracks gets added to the newly recorded track. At the moment, I'm being limited to only playing things on the EPS that are far enough apart (scale wise) that I can go back and edit unwanted notes out after recording. thanks, Tom Day From SSD.intel.com!niski Thu May 20 13:13:33 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.46.201.30 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 May 93 13:13 PDT Received: from [137.46.21.3] (macniski.ssd.intel.com) by SSD.intel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06775; Thu, 20 May 93 13:13:07 PDT Message-Id: <9305202013.AA06775@SSD.intel.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 13:13:12 -0800 To: 'EPS Users Mailbox' From: niski@SSD.intel.com (Mr. Macintosh) Subject: Re: Me and my hardware At 11:48 AM 5/20/93 -0600, Thomas Day wrote: >I have an EPS "Classic" and have been using it alone for quite a while, >bought >it new in 1990. Now, I'm trying to make it talk to Master Tracks Pro IV. >It talks alright. It talks on all channels simultaneously. I have set MIDI >to >"Multi", set each channel to transmit on "inst", set each instrument's >channel >to individual channels. But when I try to play one of those instruments and > >have Master Tracks record what I play, every EPS instrument already recorded > >and played by Master Tracks gets added to the newly recorded track. > >At the moment, I'm being limited to only playing things on the EPS that are >far enough apart (scale wise) that I can go back and edit unwanted notes >out after recording. sounds like you need to look at the "patch thru" settings and the record mode in Master Tracks. ---------------------------------------------------- Joe Niski niski@ssd.intel.com Macintosh (yes, Macintosh) Network Admin. Intel Supercomputer Systems Division Beaverton, Oregon, USA From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu May 20 14:38:23 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 May 93 14:37 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA26297; Thu, 20 May 93 17:41:20 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2BFC2574@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 20 May 93 17:42:28 EDT From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu To: jabussey@ualr.edu, eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS classic outputs screwed! Date: Thu, 20 May 93 17:39:00 EDT Message-Id: <2BFC2574@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 38 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I've had problems with the OEX since I got it out of the box. I've been told that the problem lies in the EPS and not the OEX, but since the warrentee is expired, I have been content to work aroung the problems (which are:) 1. Samples panned to "RANDOM" will flip out the OEX with noise when they hit certain pan points. 2. Depending on where in the stereo spread the sample is panned, I get additional output from the ODD numbered outputs on the OEX. Even numbered ones are apparently OK, except for a (slight) bit of noise. 3. At random times (usually around boot-up) I'll get whines (like TV-turn-on whine for those with good hearing =) from the main outputs (L&R). 4. Huge pops from the OEX when I do a keyboard calibrate (which BTW, often fixes "stuck" noise from the ODD numbered outputs) IMHO, this thing stinks...but then again, I have an earlier model. Has anyone else experienced similar problems? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPLY FROM: Winer, Greg Return-Path: <@IBM4381.ONET.EDU:jabussey@ualr.edu> Date: Thu, 20 May 1993 08:53:19 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: EPS classic outputs screwed! To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <0096CC74.AD0113C0.13629@ualr.edu> I have an EPS classic. When it turn it on and load a song, it works fine for about 1 min or so. Then when I hit a key, I get a screechy aliasing type sound! I am using the OEX 8- output expander and when I switch channels, it stops for a while but then comes back. This problem eventually starts in other channels too!!! I just put it in the shop yesterday. Does anyone have ANY idea of what might be going on???? Thanks, Jacque Andre' Bussey From msc.edu!alan Fri May 21 01:45:44 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 01:42 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA26403; Fri, 21 May 93 03:42:20 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA17827; Fri, 21 May 93 03:42:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 May 93 03:42:18 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9305210842.AA17827@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Setting the effect from MIDI - ain't no way Is it true that there is no way to select the ROM effect via a MIDI sysex command? I can't find any documented sysex cmds for selecting or modifying effects in either the EPS-16 or the ASR-10 manuals. I found one undocumented sysex param 0x30, but it appears to be broken, emiting non-reproducible garbage when I push a button on the effects page. It seems to be act really weird in the receive direction. Half the time it bombs my ASR-10 with ERROR 129 - REBOOT? I'm running OS 1.60 if that makes a difference. -Al From UK.Sun.COM!Sean.Meads Fri May 21 02:41:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.9.9.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 02:40 PDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail.Corp.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04914; Fri, 21 May 93 02:41:57 PDT Received: from UK.Sun.COM (sunuk) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13380; Fri, 21 May 93 02:40:48 PDT Received: from watchsun.UK.Sun.COM by UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1e-UK) id AA12519; Fri, 21 May 93 10:40:47 BST Received: from mi6.UK.Sun.COM by watchsun.UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-5.0-sec(uk - sec)) id AA29774; Fri, 21 May 93 10:40:54 BST Received: by mi6.UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08213; Fri, 21 May 93 10:40:43 BST Date: Fri, 21 May 93 10:40:43 BST From: Sean.Meads@UK.Sun.COM (Sean Meads - SUN UK - IS ) Message-Id: <9305210940.AA08213@mi6.UK.Sun.COM> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSm content-length: 271 Hi all, I've been offered an EPSm (rack mounted EPS+) for £1,300 .... As a straight buy, do you think this is good value for money? I believe you need a special (?) keyboard to get the polyphony after-touch to work? Sean. ps. the EPSm sold for £2,199 in 1989.... From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Fri May 21 03:45:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 03:44 PDT Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA27258 Fri, 21 May 1993 20:44:45 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA26143; Fri, 21 May 93 20:44:42 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9305211044.26143@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: EPSm To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 21 May 93 20:44:42 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > From Sean.Meads@UK.Sun.COM Fri May 21 20:05:32 1993 > Date: Fri, 21 May 93 10:40:43 BST > From: Sean.Meads@UK.Sun.COM (Sean Meads - SUN UK - IS ) > Message-Id: <9305210940.AA08213@mi6.UK.Sun.COM> > To: eps@reed.edu > Subject: EPSm > Content-Length: 271 > > > Hi all, > I've been offered an EPSm (rack mounted EPS+) for #1,300 .... > As a straight buy, do you think this is good value for money? > > I believe you need a special (?) keyboard to get the polyphony after-touch to > work? > > Sean. > > ps. the EPSm sold for #2,199 in 1989.... > You don't _need_ a special keyboard - the EPS will understand channel AT as well as poly AT - just most instruments have been set to receive poly. Thomas From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Fri May 21 03:47:21 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 03:47 PDT Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA27318 Fri, 21 May 1993 20:47:00 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA26395; Fri, 21 May 93 20:46:58 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9305211046.26395@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Setting the effect from MIDI - ain't no way To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 21 May 93 20:46:58 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > From alan@msc.edu Fri May 21 19:34:26 1993 > Date: Fri, 21 May 93 03:42:18 -0500 > From: alan@msc.edu > Message-Id: <9305210842.AA17827@af.msc.edu> > To: eps@reed.edu > Subject: Setting the effect from MIDI - ain't no way > > Is it true that there is no way to select the ROM effect > via a MIDI sysex command? I can't find any documented sysex cmds > for selecting or modifying effects in either the EPS-16 or the ASR-10 > manuals. > > I found one undocumented sysex param 0x30, but it appears to be broken, > emiting non-reproducible garbage when I push a button on the effects > page. It seems to be act really weird in the receive direction. Half > the time it bombs my ASR-10 with ERROR 129 - REBOOT? I'm running > OS 1.60 if that makes a difference. > > -Al > Get Ensoniq to send you a copy of the External Midi Spec for the ASR. It is nasty, but I've managed to create the appropriate byte-sequences to fiddle such things - it is pretty grusome. Thomas From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Fri May 21 10:56:57 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 10:55 PDT Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Fri, 21 May 93 12:55:48 -0500 id AA17719 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Fri, 21 May 93 12:55:02 -0500 id AA10359 Date: Fri, 21 May 1993 12:50:37 -0500 (CDT) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: EPSm To: EPS List In-Reply-To: <9305210940.AA08213@mi6.UK.Sun.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 21 May 1993, Sean Meads - SUN UK - IS wrote: > I've been offered an EPSm (rack mounted EPS+) for #1,300 .... > As a straight buy, do you think this is good value for money? > > ps. the EPSm sold for #2,199 in 1989.... And I bought my 16+ for $1300 about a year or so ago. Oh, I see. Pounds. Oops. So what is #2199 in US$? Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Fri May 21 13:03:50 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 13:01 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA27400; Fri, 21 May 93 16:05:21 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2BFD6077@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Fri, 21 May 93 16:06:31 EDT From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: EPSm Date: Fri, 21 May 93 16:04:00 EDT Message-Id: <2BFD6077@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >> I've been offered an EPSm (rack mounted EPS+) for #1,300 .... >> As a straight buy, do you think this is good value for money? >> >> ps. the EPSm sold for #2,199 in 1989.... >And I bought my 16+ for $1300 about a year or so ago. Oh, I see. >Pounds. Oops. So what is #2199 in US$? Well, the EPS-M has a few extra goodies in it that the keyboard doesn't if I remember correctly. I THINK it has the SCSI port built in, comes w/ 4X expander and OEX-8 built in. Still though, rule of thumb currency conversion-wise is about #1UK = $1.60US so, in the US, an EPS-M is definatly NOT worth $2080. BUT...I don't know how much gear goes for over there. Sometimes things (i.e. musical equipment) get a bit pricier due to import taxes, availability, market rate, etc. Still...It sounds a little expensive. Ive seen an EPS Classic Keyboard w/ flightcase, 4x mem, keyboard stand, and library go for $750 around here. From cs.bu.edu!crofoot Fri May 21 22:20:40 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.197.10.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 May 93 22:20 PDT Received: from CSA.BU.EDU by cs.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA17265; Sat, 22 May 93 01:00:21 -0400 From: crofoot@cs.bu.edu (Matthew Crofoot) Received: by csa.bu.edu (5.61+++/Spike-2.1) id AA04862; Sat, 22 May 93 00:58:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 May 93 00:58:49 -0400 Message-Id: <9305220458.AA04862@csa.bu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR-10 instrument effects After pouring over the ASR manual for some time, I am convinced that the info I am looking for is simply not there. I am trying to figure out how to select an instrument effect. I know that if you select a rom effect and edit it in some way, it becomes the bank effect. The instrument effect however seems to be unsettable. I can determine what the current effect is for each instrument and choose one of the four variations, but not choose a different effect...if any one could point out how to choose individual instrument effects it would be appreciated. I also get a 144 reboot? message when I try to sample while midi is being received...I have OS 1.05, is this problem fixed in a later O.S.? (I should have 1.6 on the way) Thanks, Matthew From msc.edu!alan Sat May 22 05:11:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 22 May 93 05:11 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA28833; Sat, 22 May 93 07:11:18 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA18935; Sat, 22 May 93 07:11:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 May 93 07:11:17 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9305221211.AA18935@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Setting the effect from MIDI - ain't no way >> Is it true that there is no way to select the ROM effect >> via a MIDI sysex command? I can't find any documented sysex cmds >> for selecting or modifying effects in either the EPS-16 or the ASR-10 >> manuals. >> >Get Ensoniq to send you a copy of the External Midi Spec for the ASR. >It is nasty, but I've managed to create the appropriate byte-sequences >to fiddle such things - it is pretty grusome. I got the Ext Midi Spec, and it says you ought to be able to scroll the Effects page with the virtual button press commands. Section 9.1 page 41, "Some functions, such as those on Sample and FX Select*FX Bypass pages, neither transmit nor receive PUT or GET PARAMETER commands. These functions can only be remotely addressed with virtual button press commands." Section 9.12 page 47, "The FX Algorithm Select parameter on the FX Select*FX Bypass screen does not transmit SysEx when edited from the ASR-10 front panel; it is only addressable via virtual button press commands." After two solid nights of experimentation with multiple MIDI sysex editors, I've concluded that the manual is lying. The ASR does not respond to the virtual buttons on the Effects page. In fact, the arrow keys and the keypad don't work on any page in Edit mode. They only work on pages in the Load and Command modes. I can't believe that Ensoniq would document a capability which flatly does not exist. From trl.oz.au!d.barr Wed May 26 23:31:57 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.147.51.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 26 May 93 23:30 PDT Received: by nakita.trl.OZ.AU id AA05543 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 27 May 1993 16:29:52 +1000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 16:29:52 +1000 From: David Barr Message-Id: <199305270629.AA05543@nakita.trl.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Hello, Digests, and sample sources Cc: d.barr@trl.oz.au Hello all, I'm new to the list (sorry about accidently sending my request to the list), and I have recently obtained an EPS classic and I am slowly coming to grips with sampling. I've had no problems uncompressing and using the demo samples, and thanks to all the people invloved in providing these. But I've had problems trying to uncompress the mail-list digests. All these files have a ".z" extension. Remember, I've had no problem uncompressing the ".Z" samples files. When I try uncompressing the digest ".z" files, uncompress expects them to have ".Z" as the extension. So I rename the digest file to have ".Z" at the end (e.g. rename "eps-digest1.z" to "eps-digest1.Z"). But uncompress reports that the file is not in compressed format. What's going on? (I'm using a Sun Sparc 1 - and YES, I did set "binary" before I ftped). Another thing - in the ftp@reed.edu eps dir, the link called "digests" points to "/u/ftp/pub/mailing-lists/eps" (which doesn't exist). Shouldn't this point to "/pub/mailing-lists/eps"? Finally, being a new user I'm looking for more samples. I've seen ads for sample CDs in magazines - how useful are these, and how easy are they to use? What about the AIFF samples I've seen at reed - how do I use those? (I bet that's a FAQ.) Does anyone know a source of EPS samples in Melbourne (Australia)? Thanks for any advice. Regards, Dave. d.barr@trl.oz.au From iear.arts.rpi.edu!rose Thu May 27 11:26:58 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.113.1.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 11:26 PDT Received: from iear.arts.rpi.edu by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB41); id AA15482; Thu, 27 May 93 14:26:15 EDT for eps@reed.edu Received: by iear.arts.rpi.edu (3.2/HUB10); id AA00994; Thu, 27 May 93 14:25:32 EDT for eps@reed.edu From: Mike Rose Message-Id: <9305271825.AA00994@iear.arts.rpi.edu> Subject: audio format conversion To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 27 May 93 14:25:29 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] This may not be the proper place to ask, but with so much talk about converting audio formats from the archives... What sort of ftp'able PC ware is there for converting to and from different audio file formats. Specifically, I need to get from AIFF to .AUD. Anyone with a clue? mike rose rose@iear.arts.rpi.edu From horde Thu May 27 11:30:36 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 11:30 PDT Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 11:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: Re: Hello, Digests, and sample sources To: David Barr cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <199305270629.AA05543@nakita.trl.OZ.AU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 May 1993, David Barr wrote: > But I've had problems trying to uncompress the mail-list digests. All these > files have a ".z" extension. Remember, I've had no problem uncompressing > the ".Z" samples files. Sorry about that. Because of disk space reasons, I've been forced to switch from 'compress' to 'gzip -9'. However, because the machine I currently have the ftp site running on supports the wuftpd, you can have the server ungzip the file for you before downloading. All you have to do is omit the .z ending. ex. filename: epsdigest30.z use: get epsdigest30 > Another thing - in the ftp@reed.edu eps dir, the link called > "digests" points to "/u/ftp/pub/mailing-lists/eps" (which doesn't exist). > Shouldn't this point to "/pub/mailing-lists/eps"? You're right. I've fixed that. You folks missed the fun here. A couple hours after I moved the eps stuff to the temporary machine, the original one crashed. FTP.REED.EDU is still the site to use. Though it should now report itself as vishnu instead of nexttues. -Heiji From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu May 27 11:33:41 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 11:33 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA04310; Thu, 27 May 93 14:36:49 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C053477@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 27 May 93 14:36:55 EDT From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Hard Drives Date: Thu, 27 May 93 14:33:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C053477@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 6 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I'm sure this should be a FAQ for this list, but every time I see a cheap HD, I find myself asking "Will this work with my EPS?". This time it's a 20Mb external Bernoulli (SP?) drive for a Mac. Any info would be appreciated. Gregory From msc.edu!alan Thu May 27 12:23:52 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 12:23 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA13072; Thu, 27 May 93 14:23:10 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA21283; Thu, 27 May 93 14:23:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 May 93 14:23:08 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9305271923.AA21283@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Connecting an ASR/EPS SCSI to a PC I was finally able to connect my ASR-10 to my PC and download samples through the SCSI port. I'd like to pass along some of the gotchas. While SCSI is really nice, it does take some effort to make it work. Gotcha #1: The ASR SCSI omits COMMAND_COMPLETE messages at the end of the data transfer cycle (both directions). It just floats the bus. The SCSI spec says the target must send either COMMAND_COMPLETE or COMMAND_DISCONNECT, to tell the initiator whether it's really done or just taking a breather. The workaround is to ignore BUS_UNEXPECTED_FREE errors from the PC SCSI controller. Gotcha #2: You must keep your hands off the keyboard during a download to avoid hanging the ASR. Fortunately SCSI transfers are so fast this isn't usually a problem. Gotcha #3: You cannot turn on the ASR while the PC is turned on. The ASR talks rudely to the PC while searching for bootable SCSI devices, leaving the latter hung. Gotcha #4: The PC hangs while booting if ASR is turned off. The opto-isolators on the ASR appear to provide improper termination without power to the bus. I expect all these gotchas apply to the EPS except maybe #4, because the EPS doesn't use opto-isolators. If you plan to use SCSI on a PC, I recommend you buy a SCSI A-B cross-switch box and 2 terminators. Connect the box up thusly, PC terminator |\ /| | \ / | A B A | / \ | |/ \| terminator ASR Throw the switch to A when you power up, then B to play. You should be able to buy such a box (usually with DB25s intended for serial ports) for around $50. Make sure the box has all 25 wires connected. -Al -- Alan E. Klietz Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc. 1200 Washington Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55415 Tel: +1 612 337 3520 Internet: alan@msc.edu Fax: +1 612 337 3400 From uahis1.uah.edu!ebs330.eb.uah.edu!claassen Thu May 27 14:00:40 1993 Return-Path: <@uahis1.uah.edu:claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu> Received: from 146.229.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 14:00 PDT Received: from ebs330.eb.uah.edu by uahis1.uah.edu with SMTP ; Thu, 27 May 93 15:52:12 CST Received: by ebs330.eb.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11958; Thu, 27 May 93 15:45:47 CDT From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9305272045.AA11958@ebs330.eb.uah.edu> Subject: Analog Organ To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 15:45:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 698 I've already asked this on emusic-l, so apologies for those who have read this before... I'm looking for a classic analog organ sample, as used by MC900ft Jesus on "Welcome to my Dream". It's some kind of classic analog, i'm sure that it's either a trademark sound, or a sound that comes under a certain category. If anyone knows the kind of instrument i'm looking for and its already on the site, please let me know, otherwise, if someone has it at home, could someone please let me know. I'm still looking for a good analog synth to buy, but until money allows addition of such a piece, i'd like to simulate it on my eps. (BTW, i'm running an EPS CLassic with 4X expansion.) Thanks, -AFC From silver.lcs.mit.edu!jna Thu May 27 14:16:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 18.52.0.230 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 14:16 PDT Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA27005; Thu, 27 May 93 17:15:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 May 93 17:15:55 -0400 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Ring Dings, breakfast of champions) Message-Id: <9305272115.AA27005@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: d.barr@trl.oz.au, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Hello, Digests, and sample sources Usually files with the smaller .z extension are Gnu-Zip'ed... gzip is available from export.lcs.ai.mit.edu -john From aero.org!obrien Thu May 27 15:27:12 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.221.192.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 15:26 PDT Received: from antares.aero.org by aerospace.aero.org with SMTP (5.65c/6.0.GT) id AA12865 for eps@reed.edu; Thu, 27 May 1993 15:26:46 -0700 Posted-Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 15:26:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199305272226.AA12865@aerospace.aero.org> Received: from anpiel.aero.org by antares.aero.org (4.1/AMS-1.0) id AA24432 for alan@msc.edu; Thu, 27 May 93 15:26:44 PDT To: alan@msc.edu Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Connecting an ASR/EPS SCSI to a PC In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 27 May 1993 14:23:08 CDT." <9305271923.AA21283@af.msc.edu> Date: Thu, 27 May 1993 15:26:43 -0700 From: Mike O'Brien Out of curiosity, what SCSI card, what firmware revision, and what SCSI driver software are you using in your PC? I got a Future Domain controller, and imagine my surprise when I found that the FD BIOS does its best to hide the very existence of SCSI from the PC! No chance of doing EPS transfers with this sucker, I'm here to tell you. Caveat emptor. Mike O'Brien From tps.com!ThomasD Thu May 27 17:18:49 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.138.213.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 27 May 93 17:17 PDT Received: from tps.com by csn.org with UUCP id AA06391 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Thu, 27 May 1993 18:17:45 -0600 Received: from denms411 (pcus) by denrd14 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09998; Thu, 27 May 93 14:23:56 MDT Received: by denms411 with Microsoft Mail id <2C052255@denms411>; Thu, 27 May 93 14:19:33 MDT From: Thomas Day To: 'EPS Users Mailbox' Subject: FW: Hard Drives Date: Thu, 27 May 93 14:20:00 MDT Message-Id: <2C052255@denms411> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >I'm sure this should be a FAQ for this list, but every time I see a cheap HD, >I find myself asking "Will this work with my EPS?". This time it's a 20Mb >external Bernoulli (SP?) drive for a Mac. Any info would be appreciated. Good question. The only drives Ensoniq claims will work the the EPS are the ones on their very short (and expensive) list. They did make some improvements in the SCSI port and software, toward the end of production that widens your choices, but not a lot. I think the only way you will know is to test the drive. The EPS has a non-typical SCSI, or at least it is not tolerant of devices that don't exactly match the SCSI protocol. Tom Day From msc.edu!alan Fri May 28 00:21:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 28 May 93 00:20 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA26091; Fri, 28 May 93 02:20:20 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA21531; Fri, 28 May 93 02:20:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 May 93 02:20:19 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9305280720.AA21531@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Connecting an ASR/EPS SCSI to a PC >From: Mike O'Brien > > Out of curiosity, what SCSI card, what firmware revision, and >what SCSI driver software are you using in your PC? I got a Future >Domain controller, and imagine my surprise when I found that the FD >BIOS does its best to hide the very existence of SCSI from the PC! No >chance of doing EPS transfers with this sucker, I'm here to tell you. >Caveat emptor. > >Mike O'Brien I'm using an Adaptec 1542B, ROM rev 3.10A (1990), ASPI4DOS rev 3.0. The 'A' in '3.10A' means the I/O port address is moved from 330H to to 334H so as not to collide with the Roland MPU401 MIDI interface. The Adaptec has a look-and-feel-like-an-IDE BIOS, probably similar to yours. You need to ask your vendor for a SCSI Software Developer's Kit. Adaptec's kit is based on ASPI (Advanced SCSI Programming Interface), which is becoming somewhat of a de facto standard for low level programming of SCSI devices on PCs. The other big standard is CAM. I vaguely remember someone telling me that Future Domain was coming out with an ASPI driver, a CAM driver, or both. Ask your PC dealer. -Al From UK.Sun.COM!Sean.Meads Fri May 28 04:19:47 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.9.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 28 May 93 04:19 PDT Received: from snail.Sun.COM (snail.Corp.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02000; Fri, 28 May 93 04:19:16 PDT Received: from UK.Sun.COM (sunuk) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14035; Fri, 28 May 93 04:19:09 PDT Received: from watchsun.UK.Sun.COM by UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1e-UK) id AA27408; Fri, 28 May 93 12:19:05 BST Received: from mi6.UK.Sun.COM by watchsun.UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-5.0-sec(uk - sec)) id AA17828; Fri, 28 May 93 12:19:14 BST Received: by mi6.UK.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA23851; Fri, 28 May 93 12:19:00 BST Date: Fri, 28 May 93 12:19:00 BST From: Sean.Meads@UK.Sun.COM (Sean Meads - SUN UK - IS ) Message-Id: <9305281119.AA23851@mi6.UK.Sun.COM> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Hard Drives Hi all, Does anyone have a list of hard drives compatible with the EPS .... is compatibility different on different EPS models ?! Sean. From lisbon.ma30.bull.com!peters Fri May 28 05:55:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.35.27.27 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 28 May 93 05:55 PDT Received: by lisbon.ma30.bull.com (5.61/1.34) id AA27759; Fri, 28 May 93 08:55:35 -0400 From: peters@lisbon.ma30.bull.com (Dan Peters) Message-Id: <9305281255.AA27759@lisbon.ma30.bull.com> Subject: Mac SE for Sequencing, etc.? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 28 May 93 8:55:34 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL0] Hi, I have an EPS-M, Roland Sound Canvas SC-55 and other MIDI instruments and have only used a PC for sequencing. I now need something for sequencing outside of my home. I want to record sessions with other musicians and probably sync to tape (using virtual and physical tracks). I thing Hardware sequencers ar too limiting. A PC Notebook is portable but too expensive. A standard PC (and monitor) is too bulky. I can get a Mac SE for $500 with 20MEG Hard disk and 4MB RAM Can you guys using the Mac platform with the EPS comment? Is is under powered? I really plan to only use it for sequencing multiple midi channels at the same time while chasing tape. I can use my 33MHZ 386DX PC at home for sample editing. For $500 can I go wrong? Thanks for the help, Dan -- == Dan Peters Zenith Data Systems == (508) 294-3325 (294-3054) 300 Concord Road MA30/MS853A == D.Peters@ma30.bull.com Billerica, MA 01821-4186 From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Fri May 28 09:42:11 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 28 May 93 09:41 PDT Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13868; Fri, 28 May 93 12:41:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 May 93 12:41:19 -0400 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9305281641.AA13868@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: d.barr@trl.oz.au, eps@reed.edu, jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Hello, Digests, and sample sources Cc: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu When giving the address where you can get gzip, I think John meant to say "export.lcs.mit.edu". From Ensoniq.COM!fred Fri May 28 12:21:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 28 May 93 12:20 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA04183; Fri, 28 May 93 15:20:40 EDT X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA00438; Fri, 28 May 93 14:55:57 EDT Date: Fri, 28 May 93 14:55:57 EDT From: fred@Ensoniq.COM (Fred Shaul) Message-Id: <9305281855.AA00438@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> To: eps@reed.edu Sorry, this question isn't exactly "EPS" related but perhaps someone on this mail list might be able to help me ... Internet Question regarding AppleLink: Does AppleLink have Internet access? If so how would one address e-mail to an AppleLink subscriber ... foo.s@applelink.com | foo.s@alink.com | ???? - Fred fred@ensoniq.com fredness@cup.portal.com fredness@bix.com From SSD.intel.com!niski Fri May 28 14:41:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.46.201.30 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 28 May 93 14:41 PDT Received: from [137.46.21.3] (macniski.ssd.intel.com) by SSD.intel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21702; Fri, 28 May 93 14:41:14 PDT Message-Id: <9305282141.AA21702@SSD.intel.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 14:41:14 -0800 To: eps@reed.edu, fred@Ensoniq.COM (Fred Shaul) From: niski@SSD.intel.com (Joe Niski) Subject: Re: internet -> applelink At 2:55 PM 5/28/93 -0400, Fred Shaul wrote: >Sorry, this question isn't exactly "EPS" related but perhaps someone on this >mail list might be able to help me ... > >Internet Question regarding AppleLink: > > Does AppleLink have Internet access? If so how would one address e-mail > to an AppleLink subscriber ... > > foo.s@applelink.com | foo.s@alink.com | ???? > you need to know the user's AppleLink id, then address the mail to: user@applelink.apple.com Joe ---------------------------------------------------- Joe Niski niski@ssd.intel.com Macintosh (yes, Macintosh) Network Admin. Intel Supercomputer Systems Division Beaverton, Oregon, USA From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Sun May 30 18:08:27 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 30 May 93 18:08 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14620; Mon, 31 May 1993 11:08:04 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29285; Mon, 31 May 93 09:06:21 WST Date: Mon, 31 May 93 09:06:21 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9305310106.AA29285@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Resonant Filtering (Waveboy) Who has used this? Whaddayarecon? Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kurango.cit.gu.edu.au!richard Sun May 30 21:10:29 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 132.234.5.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 30 May 93 21:10 PDT Received: by kurango.cit.gu.edu.au id AA09950 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Mon, 31 May 1993 14:13:26 +1000 Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 14:13:26 +1000 From: OI! SHADDERS! Message-Id: <199305310413.AA09950@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Resonant Filtering (Waveboy) In-Reply-To: Mail from 'scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher)' dated: Mon, 31 May 93 09:06:21 WST > Who has used this? Whaddayarecon? I've had mine for a few weeks. The disk comes with two effects algorithms and two instruments to show them off. As well as the resonant filter you get an FM synthesis thingie. First, a few words about what you get in your post pak. The resonant filter effect comes with an ADSR envelope generator, frequency cut-off and, off course, resonance setting, togetther with cut-off modulation and envelope triggering options (single, multishot). So it's a bit like the filter section of a ``traditional'' analogue synthesiser sitting on BUS1. On BUS2 you get a CHO and REV through which you can also route the filter output. With the filter, you recieve an instrument conaining a bunch of minimoog samples to show it off. The FM synthesis algorithm is supplied with an instrument that mimics a basic sine-wave operator+modulator pair (a la DX7). The FM effect (BUS1) has its own dedicated CHO and REV and there's also another CHO and REV on BUS2. The FM effect is controlled by a parameter called FM INDEX/RATIO and, unfortunately, this is not explained in the manual. It doesn't seem to correspond directly to any of the parameters on my trusty old DX7. After a bit of experimentation, I'd guess is that the it controls the amount of modulator output applied to the carrier. This effect comes with an instrument that consists of a number of FM friendly wavesamples (sinewaves and some other bits and pieces). It sounds vaguely like a DX7 in a basic 2 operator configuration. I'll have to hang off on a full review (got a billion zillion assignments to mark and about that many undergrads hanging round outside my door looking mean), but suffice it to say, the resonant filter effect is a *must have*. It works very well and has *excellent* programmability. I'm not so sure about the FM effect. It's not the sort of thing a lot of people are going to be able to get into, especially with the missing documentation. Don't get me wrong, I don't think FM is ``hard'', it just requires patience and a good book (I highly recommend Howard Massey's ``The Complete DX7''). My experiments so far (with square waves, voices and so on) have been qualified successes. As I say, I'll have to get back about this... richard From sas.upenn.edu!jleibovi Tue Jun 1 08:40:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.91.254.39 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 08:39 PDT Received: from MAIL.SAS.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA17853; Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:39:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: by mail.sas.upenn.edu id AA21972; Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41:24 EDT From: jleibovi@sas.upenn.edu (John Leibovitz) Posted-Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41:23 EDT Message-Id: <9306011541.AA21972@mail.sas.upenn.edu> Subject: maxtor drives To: eps@reed.edu (eps@reed.edu) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41:23 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11-upenn1.11] Does anybody know if the maxtor drives sold by APS and other mac vendors will work with the EPS-16 Plus Turbo? In particular I'm thinking about the 330 meg drive. Thanks. -- John S. Leibovitz jleibovi@mail.sas.upenn.edu From FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU!Todd_Kaufmann Tue Jun 1 10:08:20 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.110.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 10:07 PDT Received: from FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU by FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU id aa00398; 1 Jun 93 13:07:07 EDT To: eps@REED.EDU cc: sg1q@FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU Return-receipt-to: toad@cs.cmu.edu Reply-to: toad@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Ensoniq clinic in Pittsburgh, tonight Date: Tue, 01 Jun 93 13:06:58 -0400 Message-ID: <396.738954418@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> From: Todd_Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU Some Ensoniq rep will be at Pianos'n'Stuff tonight at 6:30pm, in case there are any local ensoniq users not on the P'n'S mailing list. They'll be showing the new ensoniq synth keyboard, don't know what else. I'll try to post a review later this week. [ask me if you need directions.] -todd From Ensoniq.COM!fred Tue Jun 1 11:17:16 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:15 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA26740; Tue, 1 Jun 93 14:15:18 EDT X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA12560; Tue, 1 Jun 93 14:14:15 EDT Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 14:14:15 EDT From: fred@Ensoniq.COM (Fred Shaul) Message-Id: <9306011814.AA12560@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> To: eps@reed.edu > you need to know the user's AppleLink id, then address the mail to: > > user@applelink.apple.com Thanx to everyone who responded :) - Fred fred@ensoniq.com fredness@cup.portal.com fredness@bix.com From hub.ucsb.edu!cosmo%cs Tue Jun 1 11:41:32 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41 PDT Received: from engineering.ucsb.edu by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA11941 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41:58 PDT for eps@reed.edu Received: from yogi (yogi.cs) by engineering.ucsb.edu (4.1/UCSBGENERIC.4) id AA24568 to eps@reed.edu; Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41:11 PDT Received: by yogi (5.0/UCSB-v2-cs) id AA01223; Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41:15 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:41:15 PDT From: cosmo%cs@hub.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin) Message-Id: <9306011841.AA01223@yogi> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Programming a fretless bass Content-Length: 545 I've been hacking up the fretless bass factory sample that came with my EPS-16. The sample sounds very good, except for its implementation of a slide. In my guitar-playing experience, if you slide up to a note, the volume of the instrument goes up, since you are adding extra friction. In this sample, though, the volume continues on a downward curve no matter what you do--play one note, or slide up to another. Does anyone have ideas about how to get the volume to increase if you slide up or down to another note? Thanks, - Boris From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Tue Jun 1 13:15:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 13:14 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA12052 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@REED.EDU); Tue, 1 Jun 1993 16:14:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 16:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Ensoniq clinic in Pittsburgh, tonight To: Todd_Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU Cc: eps@REED.EDU, sg1q@FRC2.FRC.RI.CMU.EDU In-Reply-To: <396.738954418@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [][][][][][[]<><><<><>><187-Mobile.Live.Techno.Vibes><<><><<><>][][][][][][][] On Tue, 1 Jun 1993 Todd_Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU wrote: > Some Ensoniq rep will be at Pianos'n'Stuff tonight at 6:30pm, > in case there are any local ensoniq users not on the P'n'S mailing list. > > They'll be showing the new ensoniq synth keyboard, > don't know what else. Yeah, I'll be there. Look for a guy with dreds and a High Voltage t-shirt. > I'll try to post a review later this week. > > [ask me if you need directions.] > > -todd From uunet.UU.NET!korgrd!korgrd.com!dan Tue Jun 1 13:17:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 13:17 PDT Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA06987; Tue, 1 Jun 93 16:17:02 -0400 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by spool.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 161530.14182; Tue, 1 Jun 1993 16:15:30 EDT Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01287; Tue, 1 Jun 93 13:09:32 PDT Message-Id: <9306012009.AA01287@korgrd.com> Date: 1 Jun 1993 13:05:28 -0800 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: Waveboy Resonant Filteri To: eps@reed.edu Reply to: RE>Waveboy Resonant Filtering > The FM synthesis algorithm is supplied with an instrument that mimics a > basic sine-wave operator+modulator pair (a la DX7). The FM effect > (BUS1) has its own dedicated CHO and REV and there's also another CHO > and REV on BUS2. The FM effect is controlled by a parameter called FM > INDEX/RATIO and, unfortunately, this is not explained in the manual. It > doesn't seem to correspond directly to any of the parameters on my > trusty old DX7. After a bit of experimentation, I'd guess is that the it > controls the amount of modulator output applied to the carrier. On the other hand, it *does* seem to correspond directly to a parameter from the front panel of my trusty old Synclavier (now sold...) - the Ratio parameter, in particular :-). This is the tuning ratio between the modulator and the carrier, which is very similar to the tuning of a modulator in the DX series as long as the carrier's frequency is set to 1. For instance, setting the ratio to 2 would (I believe) be the same as setting up a carrier-modulator pair with the carrier frequency set to 1, and the modulator frequency set to 2. If there is no direct control of the amount of modulator applied to the carrier, perhaps this is done simply by changing the peak values of the modulator's volume envelope. - Dan Phillips From tps.com!ThomasD Tue Jun 1 16:31:55 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.138.213.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 16:31 PDT Received: from tps.com by csn.org with UUCP id AA00654 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Tue, 1 Jun 1993 17:31:44 -0600 Received: from denms411 (pcus) by denrd14 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09998; Thu, 27 May 93 14:23:56 MDT Received: by denms411 with Microsoft Mail id <2C052255@denms411>; Thu, 27 May 93 14:19:33 MDT From: Thomas Day To: 'EPS Users Mailbox' Subject: FW: Hard Drives Date: Thu, 27 May 93 14:20:00 MDT Message-Id: <2C052255@denms411> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >I'm sure this should be a FAQ for this list, but every time I see a cheap HD, >I find myself asking "Will this work with my EPS?". This time it's a 20Mb >external Bernoulli (SP?) drive for a Mac. Any info would be appreciated. Good question. The only drives Ensoniq claims will work the the EPS are the ones on their very short (and expensive) list. They did make some improvements in the SCSI port and software, toward the end of production that widens your choices, but not a lot. I think the only way you will know is to test the drive. The EPS has a non-typical SCSI, or at least it is not tolerant of devices that don't exactly match the SCSI protocol. Tom Day From vines.urc.kun.nl!E.Roos%buro%KUN Tue Jun 1 23:44:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.174.82.170 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Jun 93 23:43 PDT Message-Id: Received: by vines.urc.kun.nl with VINES ; Wed, 2 Jun 93 08:45:17 MET Date: Wed, 2 Jun 93 08:43:28 MET From: E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl Subject: To: eps@reed.edu Cc: Bcc: Hi I'm trying to login at nexttues.reed.edu, but the machine tells me "Can't set guest privileges". What's happening? Eric From RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU!NLEONARD Wed Jun 2 10:44:36 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.241.10.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 2 Jun 93 10:44 PDT Received: from RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU by RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU (PMDF #3065 ) id <01GYWL1USAWMDGKDVW@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>; Wed, 2 Jun 1993 13:44:20 EDT Date: 02 Jun 1993 13:44:20 -0400 (EDT) From: NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU Subject: backing up to multiple syquests To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GYWL1USKJSDGKDVW@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Does anyone know if it is possible to back up or copy the contents of a large HD to multiple syquests without copying each file separately. Is there a directory copy. I would like to try this with the EPS 16+_. Neil Leonard nleonard@ecn.mass.edu From trl.oz.au!d.barr Thu Jun 3 18:24:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.147.51.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 3 Jun 93 18:22 PDT Received: by nakita.trl.OZ.AU id AA10530 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 4 Jun 1993 11:22:28 +1000 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 11:22:28 +1000 From: David Barr Message-Id: <199306040122.AA10530@nakita.trl.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: The ROM in the EPS classic & OS2.49 features Hello all, What does the ROM in the EPS classic actually do? Does it just serve to load up the OS into RAM from the disk? The reason I ask, is that my newly acquired EPS classic (4X) reports: RAM OS = 2.49 ROM OS = 1.20 This was how the unit came. The only documentation I have is the usual 2 black manuals. ... and reading through some of the past digests I see that some people have had troubles with the combination of 2.x RAM and 1.x ROM. I've had no problems yet - should I worry about getting the latest ROM? Or is it only necessary if I decide to go for a SCSI? Finally, is there a list of features added to the OS which the (original) manuals do not explain - or were the upgrades purely bug fixes. Thanks for any info, Dave d.barr@trl.oz.au From msc.edu!alan Fri Jun 4 12:47:06 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 93 12:45 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA02779; Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:45:01 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA01232; Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:45:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:45:01 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9306041945.AA01232@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Another ASR/EPS SCSI hardware bug Well, I built the SCSI crossbar box that I described last week and tried it on my PC+ASR combo. Whaddya know it doesn't work! The ASR refuses to honor SCSI commands as a target until it is used at least once as an initiator. I believe this to be a firmware bug. There are two workarounds for this problem. First, if you have an external Syquest or other hard drive, you can hook together a Y-box: ASR | | / \ A B / \ PC Syquest Throw the switch to B when you boot, then touch the Syquest with a CHANGE STORAGE DEVICE command. This wakes up the ASR SCSI. Then throw the switch to A and you can use the PC as an initiator. If you don't have a Syquest, it gets pretty complicated. You need a PC with at least one other SCSI device on it. It doesn't have to be a hard drive. First, disconnect the cable and boot the PC. Then reconnect and boot the ASR. This hangs the PC's SCSI controller, but the other internal peripherals are still alive. Touch one of them with a CHANGE STORAGE DEVICE command. This wakes up the ASR SCSI. It doesn't matter if the target device is not a hard drive (ignore the error message). Then disconnect the SCSI cable and reboot the PC. (Otherwise the ASR hangs when the PC resets the SCSI bus.) Finally reconnect the SCSI cable. Pretty ridiculous huh? I think Ensoniq really needs to fix this. There are a zillion PCs out there with CDROMs, hard drives, 16-bit PCM soundcards, plus tons of pro-quality PC MIDI, DSP, and audio software. If they continue to ignore the PC like this, they are going to get run over by competitors like Kurzweil who know where the bandwagon is going. -Al -- Alan E. Klietz Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc. 1200 Washington Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55415 Tel: +1 612 337 3520 Internet: alan@msc.edu Fax: +1 612 337 3400 From horde Fri Jun 4 14:45:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 93 14:45 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1993 14:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: Re: your mail To: E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Jun 1993 E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl wrote: > I'm trying to login at nexttues.reed.edu, but the machine tells me "Can't set > guest privileges". What's happening? try: ftp.reed.edu that is the "correct" host. -Heiji From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Sun Jun 6 17:06:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 6 Jun 93 17:04 PDT Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50); id AA22219 Mon, 7 Jun 1993 10:03:51 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA10010; Mon, 7 Jun 93 10:03:48 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9306070003.10010@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Waveboy (again) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 7 Jun 93 10:03:48 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi I'm sorry to ask a question that seems to be asked quite regularly, but Can someone please tell me the waveboy address? (perhaps it should be in a FAQ - not that I'm volenteering to collate it...) I've just _got_ to get my hands on the resonant filter disk :-) Thomas From cco.caltech.edu!tod Sun Jun 6 18:20:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.215.139.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 6 Jun 93 18:20 PDT Received: from sandman.caltech.edu (sandman.cco.caltech.edu) by punisher.caltech.edu (4.1/DEI:4.41) id AA18784; Sun, 6 Jun 93 18:21:48 PDT From: tod@cco.caltech.edu (Tod Edward Kurt) Received: by sandman.caltech.edu (4.1/UGCS:4.41) id AA13231; Sun, 6 Jun 93 18:23:24 PDT Date: Sun, 6 Jun 93 18:23:24 PDT Message-Id: <9306070123.AA13231@sandman.caltech.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SCSI woes: 128Meg Magneto-Optical (Fujitsu) problems... Hi all, Well, after hearing all the fun I decided to bite the bullet and get myself a removable media device. I settled on a Fujistu M2511A 128Meg Magneto- Optical drive. It's really great: 3.5" media @ $35, 30ms access time, and about the same size as an external floppy drive (3"x5"x9"). So far, I've been using it as a backup device for my mac, and it's worked swimmingly. However, when I go to hook it up to my EPS 16+, it's a bit anti-climactic. All I get is a "UNCONNECTED SCSI DEV" when I try to do a SYSTEM/FORMAT SCSI DEV. I've tried all the various (except 3) SCSI addresses and everything. My cables and terminators are in order (internal termination on the drive, I checked) I've even tried messing around with the DIP switches on the inside that deal with parity, synch. transmission, etc. No luck. Has anyone had any experience with this particular drive, or with MO drives, or even removable drives that might know what is going on? I've even tried several different power-up scenarios (EPS 1st, MO drive 1st, MO 1st -no cart, etc.), but none work. bleah. This really cuts down on the usefulness of the drive for me. So, if anyone out there in EPSland has a clue (since I don't), I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Tod tod@cco.caltech.edu From sics.se!alf Sun Jun 6 18:37:23 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.16.123.90 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 6 Jun 93 18:37 PDT Received: from anhur.sics.se by sics.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/SICS-1.4) with SMTP id AA09939; Mon, 7 Jun 93 03:36:55 +0200 Message-Id: <9306070136.AA09939@sics.se> To: conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Cc: eps@reed.edu, alf@sics.se Subject: Re: Waveboy (again) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1993 10:03:48 EST." <9306070003.10010@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1993 03:36:52 +0200 From: Thomas Sj|land In Transonic Hacker issue number 95 an ad for the resonant filter software says: WAVEBOY Industries P.O. Box 233, Paoli, PA 19301 USA order by phone: (215) 251-9562 From shannon.ee.wits.ac.za!underdog!SHULMAN Wed Jun 9 08:34:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.141.16.134 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 93 08:32 PDT Received: by shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.3) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 93 17:41 EET Received: From WITS_EE2/WORKQUEUE by cerberus.ee.wits.ac.za via Charon 3.4 with IPX id 100.930609173549.368; 09 Jun 93 17:35:27 +0200 Message-ID: To: eps@reed.edu From: "Steve Shulman" Date: 9 Jun 93 17:30:12 SAT Subject: Distortion Guitar Volume Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4). Hi I've got a problem with my 16+ distortion guitar (preset disk no2 DIST GUITAR) When I try reduce the volume, the distortion sort of fades, but the guitar doesn't get any software. This is a big problem when I try to sequence. Any help on getting the volume lower would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Steve. _/_/_/_/ Steve Shulman _/_/_/_/ _/ shulman@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za _/ _/_/_/_/ Electrical Engineering Dept. _/_/_/_/ _/ Wits University _/ _/_/_/_/ South Africa _/_/_/_/ " Rock this place to the ground " - Def Leppard Rock Rules ! From ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu!MOREYLC Wed Jun 9 14:08:00 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.59.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 93 14:07 PDT Received: from ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF #3899 ) id <01GZ6HX146VQ8XDUGV@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>; Wed, 9 Jun 1993 16:05:34 CDT Date: 09 Jun 1993 16:05:34 -0500 (CDT) From: MOREYLC@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu Subject: EPS vs. ASR-10 To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GZ6HX146VS8XDUGV@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: MOREYLC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey all. I have a good old EPS classic 13 minus. Now, two generations behind, and I am suffering severe bit-envy (actually, its the 20 voices that bugs me most) and am looking longingly at the ASR-10. Is it worth it? The local price quote is $2150 US here. Am I an idiot to pay that much more for 3 bits more in sampling input, an onboard effects unit (I already have a nice outboard one), and 11 more voices?? Your opinions on this would be interesting. That is, if there is still anybody out there. Cheers, Les From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Wed Jun 9 19:31:18 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 93 19:30 PDT Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50); id AA24262 Thu, 10 Jun 1993 12:30:43 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA09598; Thu, 10 Jun 93 12:30:35 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9306100230.9598@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: EPS vs. ASR-10 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 12:30:30 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > From MOREYLC@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu Thu Jun 10 08:03:59 1993 > > Hey all. > > I have a good old EPS classic 13 minus. Now, two generations behind, > and I am suffering severe bit-envy (actually, its the 20 voices that > bugs me most) and am looking longingly at the ASR-10. Is it worth it? > The local price quote is $2150 US here. Am I an idiot to pay that much > more for 3 bits more in sampling input, an onboard effects unit (I already > have a nice outboard one), and 11 more voices?? > > Your opinions on this would be interesting. That is, if there is still > anybody out there. > > Cheers, > > Les > Here's my 2bits worth ;-) Go for the voices. I don't really know about the price though - I don't know what the relative prices are like. It also depends on what kind or music you are doing - if you just want to use it live, with occasional extra bits and pieces, you probably don't use up all the polyphony anyway. If you are trying to emulate a 200 piece orchestra, 100 voice choir, and a full rock band all at once with the sequencer, then I suggest that the extra voices _could_ be useful ;-) Not also that 16+/ASR10 instruments _tend_ to use fewer layers at once to create full sounds, since this can be done with FX (eg, to get a fat brass, instead of using 2 slightly detuned layers, you can add a slight chorus). I say _tend_ because often as not, instruments then add extra things in the layers that they arn't using for fatness (eg, add an extra one-shot sample on the attack of the aforementioned brass). Thomas From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Jun 10 05:49:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 93 05:48 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA20048; Thu, 10 Jun 93 08:52:35 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2C1758D8@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 10 Jun 93 08:52:56 EDT From: "Winer, Greg" To: * EPS List Subject: EPS vs. ASR-10 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 93 08:50:00 EDT Message-Id: <2C1758D8@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 15 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Les sez: "...and I am suffering severe bit-envy (actually, its the 20 voices that bugs me most) and am looking longingly at the ASR-10. Is it worth it? The local price quote is $2150 US here. Am I an idiot to pay that much more for 3 bits more in sampling input, an onboard effects unit (I already have a nice outboard one), and 11 more voices??" I sez: What is the polyphony for the ASR10? More than 20 voices? BTW, If I remember correctly, the S/N ratio or frequency response or _something_ is degraded as you increase the polyphony of the EPS Classic. Does anyone have a copy of the specs they could post? i'm just wondering whether this is what causes the high pitched whine I hear from time to time in my "bassey" samples. From MR.Net!williams Sat Jun 12 09:41:20 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.192.2.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 12 Jun 93 09:39 PDT Received: from [134.84.101.51] (dialIP-51.mr.net) by riverside.mr.net (4.1/SMI-4.1.R930430) id AA09488; Sat, 12 Jun 93 11:39:33 CDT From: "Freshly Open Grave" Date: Sat, 12 Jun 93 11:21:36 CST Message-Id: <40902.williams@mr.net> Reply-To: X-Popmail-Charset: English To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ftp site Well, I think I am on this list now (at least i sent in my subscription) so i guess I will pose this question here now. Why can't I log into the ftp site? I try both nexttues.reed.edu and eps.reed.edu and both "can't set guest privledges". What up wit dat? Anyone here having the same problem? I never had any problems at my old account a month ago. Now since I have moved and got my internet back up, I am landlocked. Strange... any info appreciated.... Kennen Sie eine Merle? Kennen Sie eine Merle? Das ist gut...zu gut. Robert Williams<*>MANNA-MACHINE<*>Minneapolis noise williams@mr.net OR williams@manna-machine.com gerade sie..sie ist mein Opfer. Schad um sie.... sie wird's..ach, nicht lange durchhalten.... From elf.stuba.cs!martin Sun Jun 13 04:55:05 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 147.175.16.34 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 13 Jun 93 04:54 PDT Received: by elf.stuba.cs id AA28555 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Sun, 13 Jun 1993 13:44:26 +0200 From: Martin Grecner Message-Id: <199306131144.AA28555@elf.stuba.cs> To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1993 13:44:25 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL0] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 6 help From lambada.oit.unc.edu!Jeff.Soo Sun Jun 13 06:37:51 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 152.2.22.80 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 13 Jun 93 06:36 PDT Received: by lambada.oit.unc.edu (5.65/TAS/11-16-88) id AA10078; Sun, 13 Jun 1993 09:36:27 -0400 Message-Id: <9306131336.AA10078@lambada.oit.unc.edu> Subject: subscribe? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sun, 13 Jun 93 9:36:26 EDT From: Jeffrey Derrick Soo X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL65] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 54 I would like to subscribe to this list. Thanks, Jeff From tekelec.com!moore Mon Jun 14 08:22:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.89.39.130 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 93 08:21 PDT Received: from kevs. (kevs.al.tekelec.com) by big_eight.al.tekelec.com (4.1/1.57) id AA02622; Mon, 14 Jun 93 10:20:57 CDT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 10:20:57 CDT From: moore@tekelec.com (Kevan L. Moore) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: tell me more about this list Message-Id: Hello! this is actually a test to see if this message goes through. if so, please subscribe me to this list. i owned an eps for about 4 years and am currently eyeballing an ASR-10 rack. anybody already have one? anyone have any opinions on it? any reply will be welcome. klm From UKCC.UKY.EDU!UKCC.UKY.EDU!DANEWT00 Mon Jun 14 09:05:15 1993 Return-Path: <@UKCC.UKY.EDU:DANEWT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU> Received: from 128.163.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 93 09:04 PDT Message-Id: Received: from UKCC.UKY.EDU by UKCC.uky.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6312; Mon, 14 Jun 93 12:03:17 EDT Received: from ukcc.uky.edu (NJE origin DANEWT00@UKCC) by UKCC.UKY.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5320; Mon, 14 Jun 1993 12:03:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 12:02:19 EDT From: Dwight Newton Subject: REQ. INFO To: eps@reed.edu Request info re: subscription to mailing list. Thanks! From tekelec.com!moore Mon Jun 14 13:45:03 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.89.39.130 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 93 13:43 PDT Received: from kevs. (kevs.al.tekelec.com) by big_eight.al.tekelec.com (4.1/1.57) id AA04555; Mon, 14 Jun 93 15:43:01 CDT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 15:43:01 CDT From: moore@tekelec.com (Kevan L. Moore) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Hello! this is actually a test to see if this message goes through. if so, please subscribe me to this list. i owned an eps for about 4 years and am currently eyeballing an ASR-10 rack. anybody already have one? anyone have any opinions on it? any reply will be welcome. klm From cae.wisc.edu!field Mon Jun 14 13:58:20 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 144.92.4.11 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 93 13:57 PDT Received: from sun-23.cae.wisc.edu by serv0.cae.wisc.edu (4.1/25) id AA27269; Mon, 14 Jun 93 15:57:06 CDT Received: by sun-23.cae.wisc.edu (4.1/client-1.3) id AA16190; Mon, 14 Jun 93 15:56:33 CDT From: Message-Id: <9306142056.AA16190@sun-23.cae.wisc.edu> Subject: Basic Questions To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 15:56:32 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Hi, I'm new to list and have subscribed as a courtesy to a friend who does not have net access. He is going to buy an EPS 16+ for about $1300 in the next few weeks (if anyone can beat that, email me). Questions: 1) Is there an ftp site where one can get samples in the EPS 16 format? 2) Or altenatively, is there a program which converts generic 16 samples into EPS format? Thanks, Mike Field From undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjfennem Mon Jun 14 19:39:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.97.204.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 93 19:39 PDT Received: from descartes.uwaterloo.ca by undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca id <43277-3>; Mon, 14 Jun 1993 22:39:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 22:35:40 -0400 From: "Ryan J. Fennema" Subject: MAM Demo ... To: "EPS (R. Fennema)" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Which machines can be used to play the "Move Any Mountain" demo on FTP.REED.EDU? EPS 13- EPS 16+ ASR 10 Please circle the appropriate selections :) Later (and thanks), ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= __ ___ /__) /__/ /__/ /\ / Ryan J. Fennema rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca / \ __/ / / / \/ University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada From cwis.unomaha.edu!skyhawk Mon Jun 14 21:51:24 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.48.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 93 21:51 PDT Received: by cwis.unomaha.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11204; Mon, 14 Jun 1993 23:51:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1993 23:48:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Chad Vice Subject: Greetings. To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there... I'm new to the EPS newsletter thing here, so I apologize in advance for any ignorant questions. IS there any kind of a FAQ guide I could get a hold of for this group? At any rate, I was wondering what software I can find on the net for the 16+ and MS-DOS. Specifically, I was hoping to find some kind of a librarian that will allow me to store my EPS sounds on my MS-DOS's hard drive, and retreive them easily. From what I gather, at ftp.reed.edu, all there is in the way of the MSDOS/EPS connection is a couple of files that help transfer files one at a time. If someone could help steer me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it. -==- ._______|_______. -==- -==- Chad Ashley Vice -\(*)/- Cessna 152/172/172Q -==- -==- AOPA 01127947 o/ \o Private Pilot -==- -==- skyhawk@cwis.unomaha.edu Airplane Single-Engine Land -==- From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Tue Jun 15 04:49:21 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.128.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Jun 93 04:49 PDT Received: from perth.DIALix.oz.au (DIALix.oz.au [192.203.228.2]) by uniwa (BETA-6.63.2/6.32) with SMTP id TAA10883; Tue, 15 Jun 1993 19:48:20 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.dialix.oz.auĝ A by perth.DIALix.oz.au with UUCP id AA19986 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for reed.edu!eps); Tue, 15 Jun 1993 19:48:17 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA00a2b; Tue, 15 Jun 93 19:46:23 PST Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 19:46:23 PST Message-Id: <9306160346.AA00a2a@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: FAQ - EPS mailing list. Hi Gang, Here is the latest FAQ for this list, it is still not complete so if you see any glaring mistakes/omissions/corrections/incongruities etc please write and tell me so I can fix/add/change them thanks/ta/ripper/bewdy! Steve Q. -- THE EPS USERS SURVIVAL KIT Contents: EPS users mailing list. Transoniq Hacker information. Selected Software. Bug List. ********************** EPS users mailing list ************************* The EPS mailing list is for the discussion of the Ensoniq EPS family of digital sampling keyboards. Members post questions, answers, informal reviews, and other information. The mailing list includes nearly 115 men and women from North America, Europe, and Australia. Recently sample swapping (via e-mail and ftp) has started. Ask the group how to join in (PD software avaliable). All you need is a PC/Mac/Atari with a 3.5" drive and some way of getting files off the network into the PC /Mac/Atari. To subscribe to the list send your email details to: eps-request@reed.edu The address for the mailing list is: eps@reed.edu When you send email to that address, the machine there sends a copy to each individual on the list. If you have problems or questions about to using the list, send your query to one of these addresses: eps-request@reed.edu owner-eps@reed.edu Please don't send subscribe/unsunscribe requests to the list (eps@reed.edu). Archives of past discussions are available as compressed text files via anonymous ftp to ftp.reed.edu. The file(s) are in /pub/eps/digests, and were compressed with the UNIX "compress" utility. There are quite a few archives available in the format "eps-digestN.Z" where N = (1,2,3...N) "eps-digest1.Z" starts the archives and covers the period from November 1990 through to now. Our current ftp site is ftp.reed.edu and the subdirectories in this area are /pub/eps: /digests past mailing list messages /docs [also home to the Survival.kit] /incoming drop point for public domain EPS stuff /samples/PD /samples/aiff /samples/demo /samples/misc /samples/vfx /system-software /utils Drop Scott Fisher a line if you need further info... scott@psy.uwa.oz.au or steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au ************************* Transoniq Hacker ***************************** Transoniq Hacker (TH) is an independent users support magazine for Ensoniq products. It provides... * Reviews of samples and patches * Software Reviews * New products news * Free Patches (for Ensoniq Synths) * Phone network for free help * Programming tips * How-to articles * Questions and answers (The interface) * Free Classified adds * Interviews * ...and 3rd party company support i.e... Software, Memory Expanders, SCSI Drives etc. In the forum "The Interface" where letters get answered, not only by TH staff but "real" people at Ensoniq, who offer their services for this section. I have subscribed for 4 years now and all I can say is that you SHOULD subscribe, nothing else comes close to TH for supporting us EPS and Ensoniq users in general. TH provide a money back guarantee that if you do not think your subscription has paid for its self in 3 issues (1 a month) then you can claim back your subscription. Alternatively they offer a 3 month "skeptics" subscription offer. There is no-way (practically) that you will get your fingers burnt with them, if you don't like TH you get ALL your money back. First time subscribers get a special deal, 12 monthly issues for $18 US ($25 All others outside the USA) This is $5 off the subscription price. Special "skeptics" deal is 3 issues (3 months) for $5 US ($7 Non US). After the first year you revert to... $23/year (US$32 outside the US). HOW TO SUBSCRIBE? Three methods... 1) Mail your cheque (payable to "Transoniq Hacker") OR your (Mastercard/Visa) number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to... Transoniq Hacker 1402 SW Upland Drive, Portland, OR 97221. Phone: 503/227-6848 (8 a.m. to 9 p.m. PST). 2) Phone their TOLL-FREE 1-800-548-8925 (US only) and give your Mastercard/Visa number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to the answering machine (24 Hour service). 3) Alternatively and this is a real PLUS!! you can contact Eric (the publisher and owner of TH) via Compuserve on... 73260.3353@compuserve.com You can give your (Mastercard/Visa) details to him over the net, with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code. Why not drop him a line and have a chat about TH (say Scott sent you, Eric will go ... Eh? What? Who is that? :-) The other good thing about having email contact with TH is that you can send in letters/articles easily and quickly and have a chat to Eric at the same time. *************************** Selected Software ******************************** You are what you eat right? Well the EPS is what it eats too :-) Without good software the EPS\16 Plus ain't much use. Below are a selection of products that I have found make a difference to the EPS's appeal... Diskette Utilities: For EPS & PCs, Geibler enterprises Ensoniq Diskette Manager (EDM) is a good thing. It formats, copies and does just about everything to not only EPS disks but all Ensoniq Formats (Mirage, ESQ-80, VFX-SD, SD-1). This is also good for storing EPS disks on your PC'd hard disk in DOS format. Makes it easy to send EPS disks via the NET too. For more info, write to Geibler Enterprises 8038 Morgan Road Liverpool, N.Y. 13090 U.S.A. For EPS and ATARI, Steve Quartly has Share-Ware avaliable that he wrote. Does everything EDM does with EPS disks and MORE. Contact Steve at.. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au This is also available at our current ftp site. Effects (for 16 Plus): For the EPS 16 PLus, How long have you been waiting for Ensoniq to add some more FX algorithms to the unit? Waveboy industries have released a whole bunch (16) of new FX (yes brand new!) for the EPS 16 Plus. They load straight into the EPS FX chip (ESP chip) from diskette. One of the algorithms is a PITCH SHIFTER that lets you plug a mic into the EPS and use it as a LIVE FX unit. These FX are SIMPLY BRILLIANT!! For more info... Waveboy Industries. PO Box 233 Paoli PA, 19301 U.S.A. PH: (215) 251-9562. EPS and Midi programming: For those of you struggling with the EPS sysex and MIDI while trying to write your own code there is a whole bunch of EPS sysex routines written in turbo-C avaliable for anonymous ftp... AT: louie.udel.edu IN: /pub/midi/software/ibm The files are eps.README (presented below) and eps.tar.Z eps.README... >This is my library of EPS system-exclusive routines. It includes >routines that implement most of the SysEx messages defined in the Ensoniq >Performance Sampler Extern Command Specification. Those messages that are >not implemented can be simulated by using the Virtual Button Press message. >These routines were written in Turbo C, for the IBM PC and MPU-401, >which explains some of the identifiers. However, it should be simple enough >to port them to any other platform. All of the MPU-specific routines >are defined in 'mpu.c' and 'mpu.h'. There is some IBM-specific stuff in >'eps.c' and 'eps.h', too. These four files should be the only ones you >need to modify. > >I've also included 'epsl.lib', a Turbo C large model library, >containing all of this stuff, for those who can use it. > >If you find any bugs, have comments to make, or just want to send >me a line, I can be reached at arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov . ************************ EPS users bug list **************************** How many times have you seen ERROR 144 - REBOOT? What caused it? Well, Richard Hagen is the keeper of the EPS/EPS 16 PLus BUG LIST. So if you have any BUGS to report or you wan't to know if the BUG you have found is a rare and endangered species send email to... richard@cit.gu.edu.au. ************************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to gain by supporting the above groups, I am simply a satisfied customer, trying to help fellow EPS users. From tekelec.com!moore Tue Jun 15 07:53:26 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 198.89.39.130 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Jun 93 07:53 PDT Received: from kevs. (kevs.al.tekelec.com) by big_eight.al.tekelec.com (4.1/1.57) id AA07880; Tue, 15 Jun 93 09:52:37 CDT Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 09:52:37 CDT From: moore@tekelec.com (Kevan L. Moore) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR-10 Message-Id: what's an ASR-10 have that an EPS-16 not have? what can an ASR-10 do that an EPS-16 can't do? i'm looking at both, sort of. anyone? klm From msc.edu!danw Tue Jun 15 08:28:16 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Jun 93 08:27 PDT Received: from uh.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA12093; Tue, 15 Jun 93 10:27:57 -0500 Received: by uh.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.1r(920220)) id AA22380; Tue, 15 Jun 93 10:27:56 -0500 From: danw@msc.edu (Dan Waylonis) Message-Id: <9306151527.AA22380@uh.msc.edu> Subject: TS*10 ? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 15 Jun 93 10:27:55 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hiya, Since the TS*10 will playback EPS{13-, 16+}/ASR-10 samples, should I ask questions in THIS group, or the VFX group? I was just wondering if anyone has a TS*10? I have a SD-1/32 and I'm just a bit concerned that Ensoniq's departure from the VFX family architecture will leave me hankerin' for a new synth... Thanks, Dan /||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\ | Dan \\ MN Supercomputer Center| cryptic Parsons pyre connive tribal | Waylonis \\ 1200 Washington Ave S | mutineer tempera hackberry canyon | Graphics \\ Minneapolis MN 55415 | electrolysis bonanza provincial Segovia | danw@msc.edu\\ (612) 337-3538 | gallant earthen clang communicate geld |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| nineteen found From telerama.pgh.pa.us!raver909 Tue Jun 15 09:44:33 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.231.221.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Jun 93 09:43 PDT Received: by telerama.pgh.pa.us id AA22214 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 15 Jun 1993 12:42:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1993 12:40:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: ASR-10 To: "Kevan L. Moore" Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -<><><><><><><><><)-]187--Number-of-da-Analog-Beast--[-(><><><><><><><><><><><>- |Sub.bass.Frequency.Percolator| | -^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-~ On Tue, 15 Jun 1993, Kevan L. Moore wrote: > what's an ASR-10 have that an EPS-16 not have? > what can an ASR-10 do that an EPS-16 can't do? > i'm looking at both, sort of. > anyone? > klm Well the ASR-10 has bette