From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Mar 29 08:02:01 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 29 Mar 93 08:00 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <292688>; Mon, 29 Mar 1993 11:00:38 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00472; Mon, 29 Mar 93 08:44:55 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303291344.AA00472@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: Re: Groovy new samples To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 08:44:54 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Do you people want to upload these groovy samples to the archive? -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Mon Mar 29 13:35:04 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 29 Mar 93 13:34 PST Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Mon, 29 Mar 93 15:34:30 -0600 id AA29879 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Mon, 29 Mar 93 15:33:58 -0600 id AA16614 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 15:28:09 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: A groovey new sample To: EPS List In-Reply-To: <9303290659.10330@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Mar 1993, Thomas Charles CONWAY wrote: > What other nifty tricks do people use to get new samples? Holding a mic with very little windscreening to your mouth and blowing in different ways is a good source of weird percussion. Then you can lop off the ends, loop it around, and mix it with other samples. Also, close-miking small bell cymbals and striking them gently is a good source of large bell sounds. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From u.cc.utah.edu!asc7556 Mon Mar 29 14:51:58 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.110.48.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 29 Mar 93 14:50 PST Received: by u.cc.utah.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08128; Mon, 29 Mar 93 15:50:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 15:49:35 -0700 (MST) From: Andrew Corradini/SBDC Subject: Multi-disk banks... To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I haven't tried this yet, but understand that the new EPS Classic OS (ok, not new, but 2.49) will automatically split a bank across several disks...true? Sorry if this is a faq... Thanks! From ecn.purdue.edu!del Mon Mar 29 15:35:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 29 Mar 93 15:34 PST Received: from localhost by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA10868; Mon, 29 Mar 93 18:34:14 -0500 Message-Id: <9303292334.AA10868@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: A groovey new sample In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 29 Mar 1993 16:59:48 EST." <9303290659.10330@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 18:34:12 EST From: David A Whittemore i have made some pretty good bell type string sounds by sampling and looping a hit on a small kitchen pan lib. of course, you have to make sure that there are no strange overtones, or chords wont sound right. tech-ish bass buzz sounds are easy to get by dicking around with *tiny* loops (like 7 blocks tiny) of most anything. transposed way down, season to taste with filters and loop walking on LFO. chorus helps these guys out. the result is a nice full BZWAAAZZAAWWP. -david From uunet.UU.NET!bristol!arisb Mon Mar 29 23:25:47 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 29 Mar 93 23:24 PST Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA14564; Tue, 30 Mar 93 02:24:11 -0500 Received: from bristol.UUCP by spool.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 022108.12924; Tue, 30 Mar 1993 02:21:08 EST Received: by bristol.UUCP (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20934; Mon, 29 Mar 93 06:32:40 EST From: bristol!arisb@uunet.UU.NET (Aris Buinevicius) Message-Id: <9303291132.AA20934@bristol.UUCP> Subject: More: A groovey new sample To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 6:32:28 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] In a similar vein to Thomas' question, what mics are people using out there that are suitable for "field sampling" (ie, in subway stations, New York city streets and other fun places)? Anyone have any good luck with portable DAT tapes? Aris arisb@bristol.com From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Tue Mar 30 03:06:12 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 93 03:04 PST Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU with SMTP id AA05044 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 30 Mar 1993 21:04:48 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA16037; Tue, 30 Mar 93 21:04:47 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9303301104.AA16037@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: sampling mikes (was groovy new sample etc) To: bristol!arisb@uunet.UU.NET (Aris Buinevicius) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 21:04:45 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9303291132.AA20934@bristol.UUCP>; from "Aris Buinevicius" at Mar 29, 93 6:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > In a similar vein to Thomas' question, what mics are people > using out there that are suitable for "field sampling" (ie, > in subway stations, New York city streets and other fun > places)? Anyone have any good luck with portable DAT > tapes? > > The topic of mikes is one that comes up occasionally, so I'll repeat my standard 2 cents worth: I like el cheapo Tandy PZMs. They're the flat rectangular kind. They sound great, have good signal to noise and frequency response, and best of all, are CHEAP. However they're more or less omni directional. You might want to consider some sort of shot mike if you want to "isolate" a sound. I've tried a professional SONY portable DAT recording my band. I love them. Can't afford it though (I rented the one we used). > Aris > arisb@bristol.com > > > Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From hub.ucsb.edu!cosmo%cs Tue Mar 30 11:41:39 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 93 11:41 PST Received: from engineering.ucsb.edu by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA09978 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Tue, 30 Mar 93 11:40:55 PST for eps@reed.edu Received: from tweety (tweety.cs) by engineering.ucsb.edu (4.1/UCSBGENERIC.4) id AA16804 to eps@reed.edu; Tue, 30 Mar 93 11:40:39 PST Received: by tweety (5.0/UCSB-v2-cs) id AA01221; Tue, 30 Mar 93 11:40:19 PST Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 11:40:19 PST From: cosmo%cs@hub.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin) Message-Id: <9303301940.AA01221@tweety> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sample archive directory? Content-Length: 676 While searching through the samples at eps.reed.edu, I noticed that the samples are all in one directory, and their descriptions (if they exist) are in another directory. This seems a bit inconvenient. Personally, I like the way that the Simtel 20 archives are organized. Every directory has a 00-index.txt file that lists all the files in that directory and their descriptions. Maybe we could start organizing such a file for eps.reed.edu? I noticed the sample.index.txt file, and it's a good start. How about adding to that file, so that it includes all the disks, rather than just the PD ones. Or is there already an existing directory that I missed? :-) - Boris From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Tue Mar 30 14:38:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 93 14:36 PST Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA04655 Wed, 31 Mar 1993 08:35:56 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA12480; Wed, 31 Mar 93 08:35:53 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9303302235.12480@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: sampling mikes (was groovy new sample etc) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 8:35:48 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Andrew Studer writes: > > The topic of mikes is one that comes up occasionally, so I'll repeat my > standard 2 cents worth: I like el cheapo Tandy PZMs. They're the flat > rectangular kind. They sound great, have good signal to noise and frequency > response, and best of all, are CHEAP. However they're more or less omni > directional. You might want to consider some sort of shot mike if you want to > "isolate" a sound. > > I've tried a professional SONY portable DAT recording my band. I love them. > Can't afford it though (I rented the one we used). > > Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au > A little while back, I investigated the mic scene, and found that for the poor (like me) the Tandy mic is a very good option. Here in Australia there is a company called Rode (I think) who make a Neumann copy (under licence) which sells for about $Aust600 instead of the $Aust2000 for the original. Aparently there is almost nothing to distinguish the two except for the brand name on the front and the price. A good friend of mine has a portable DAT (a Tascam I believe), which aside from a problem of input noise (which just needs fixing - it isn't a design fault or anything) is excellent - he took it round to a sheet metal work- shop recently and took a whole pile of samples - when I sort out some problems that I have with getting samples onto the net, I'll upload them. They are VERY hard-edged - you play along keyboard to hear them all and you just keep turning the volume down and down - the attacks are so hard that they make you wince every time ;-) Thomas From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Tue Mar 30 17:37:33 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 93 17:37 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GWFIPNOZ7W90Y4A5@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Tue, 30 Mar 1993 19:37:10 CST Date: 30 Mar 1993 19:37:10 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Re: A groovey new sample To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GWFIPNOZ7Y90Y4A5@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i've made a human drum machine by sampling my voice and making sounds with my mouth... I made a closed hihat, open hihat, bass and snare.. it was fun, but not professional sounding, to my disappointment. *giggle* just thought I'd say this, cause it was fun when I did it! -james -djkc From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Tue Mar 30 17:50:08 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 93 17:49 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GWFIX6WWYA90Y4A5@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Tue, 30 Mar 1993 19:49:35 CST Date: 30 Mar 1993 19:49:35 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Stereo microphones To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GWFIX6WWYC90Y4A5@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT the first microphone I bought for my ASR is a Radio Shack stereo microphone (I think it's Realistic, can't remember -- it's at home) anyway, it was about $25. Very good compared to a Panasonic one I saw at an electonic outlet store for $65. The first sample I made with this was somebody coming in a door (open & close) and saying "Hi." I was so amazed when I played it back.. (sitting in the same position in the room). It sounds so real that when my girlfriend put the headphones on and listened, she thought I was opening the door and going somewhere (she pushed the key I told her to, I was standing behind her, and she snapped her head toward the door thinkng had opened it!) If you've got any suggestions on fun things to do with a stereo-mic, or want to make recommendations for brands and prices for others,then please do. -james p.s. - on Synthesizing Wavesamples: Is the main purpose of doing this for samples to be able to play chords? (ack, my editor isn't on..) rather, What is the main purpose in synthing a sample?? thanks. From cs.cornell.edu!chady Tue Mar 30 20:26:18 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.254.220 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 93 20:25 PST Received: from CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU by thialfi.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99C) id AA20247; Tue, 30 Mar 93 23:25:56 -0500 Received: from BULLWINKLE.CS.CORNELL.EDU by cloyd.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99D) id AA16372; Tue, 30 Mar 93 23:26:05 -0500 From: chady@cs.cornell.edu (Peter C. Chady) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 23:25:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9303310425.AA26667@bullwinkle.cs.cornell.edu> Received: by bullwinkle.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/N-0.13) id AA26667; Tue, 30 Mar 93 23:25:54 -0500 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: a dead alesis I have a dead alesis hr-16 on my hands. Does anyone have any experience with these? or, more appropriately, does anyone know of a support group for this? The EPS list is the only one I know of right now... On a more relevant topic: someone mentioned PZM mikes, but it was a Tandy/ Realistic model. Are there other brands that make PZM's within reason? I cringe when I think of Realistic products, but that's just a personal bias. Right now I use mainly an SM58, but sometimes I would prefer to get a better "open air" sound. thanks for listening! Pete-ro From kowande.bu.oz.au!s057 Wed Mar 31 04:59:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.244.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 04:58 PST Received: from surf.sics.bu.oz.au by kirk.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA01047; Wed, 31 Mar 93 22:57:56 +1000 Return-Path: Received: from SAND.KOWANDE.BU.OZ.AU by surf.kowande.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA16684; Wed, 31 Mar 93 22:58:50 -1000 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 21:57:05 -1000 (GMT-10:00) From: Stephen Gregory Subject: New Ensoniq Card To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Did anyone pick up on the article in one of the newgroups the other day about the new Ensoniq sampler/synth on a card? I can't remember all the specs now, but it sounded pretty much like an ASR-10 minus the FX, plus something like an SD-1. They reckon it will go for around $350 U.S. Yeah I was shocked too. Is this thing for real, anyone know? Steve From ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com!TKUITTINEN Wed Mar 31 06:11:17 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.228.128.211 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 06:10 PST Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 17:12:50 +0400 (EET-DST) From: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com (Timo Kuittinen p. +358 0 5104 4624) Message-Id: <930331171250.22010581@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: Re: New Ensoniq Card To: eps@reed.edu X-Vmsmail-To: INET"eps@reed.edu" >>> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 21:57:05 -1000 (GMT-10:00) >>> From: Stephen Gregory >>> Subject: New Ensoniq Card >>> >>> Did anyone pick up on the article in one of the newgroups the other day >>> about the new Ensoniq sampler/synth on a card? I can't remember all the >>> specs now, but it sounded pretty much like an ASR-10 minus the FX, plus >>> something like an SD-1. They reckon it will go for around $350 U.S. I extracted it, but it is nowhere near the ASR-10, not even EPS-16, IMHO. More like SQ-32 -series synth and the sort of AD/DA recording capabilities that the Turtle Beach Multisound now has (well, maybe a bit better, but along the same line). Mr Weigel has either acquired some new info about the card or has put on his pink glasses. The story in Keyboard was a short and pretty vague description in the new products section. Sampling wasn't one of the things the card was supposed to be able to do. And that sample memory... if memory serves me, i recall it was some sort of compression technique that they were talking about. Something that would allow them to squeeze a lot of sample data in RAM. I don't remember the amount of RAM/ROM the card was supposed to have, but it certainly wasn't 16 Mb. If you stop to think about it, why would Ensoniq want to compete with itself. If you could get about eight sampler cards (if only there were enough slots in your computer for them) at roughly the same price as one ASR-10R, why would anyone want to buy those "real" instruments. Even if you would have to buy a computer and some MIDI master controller, you would still end up in the same price range (of course with only one or two of the cards). And you can't do, say, word processing with an ASR-10, or can you? ...Really? Well, I'm impressed, I knew it was an incredible machine, but still... ;-) Nevertheless, if it is even as good as a beefed-up SQ-32-on-card, I'm going to get one. >>> Yeah I was shocked too. Is this thing for real, anyone know? ^^^^ Yes, "real-soon-now" ;-) t. Timo ======= --8<--- cut here ---8<--- cut here ---8<--- cut here ---8<--- cut here ---8<-- Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth From: Bob.Weigel@launchpad.unc.edu (Bob Weigel) Subject: PC sound cards, don't buy yet! Hey, I'm really surprised that nobody caught wind of this yet,... as far as I've seen. I think I mentioned it when it first came to be announced in KB mag. Should I tell them....ahhhhh, ok. Ensoniq has a new product coming out shortly. I'm not a salesman, but I'm trying to get them to let me promote it locally. Basically, it's got everything Turtle Beach has, except software, for ....ready....$349 list! That's 16 bit stereo sampling simultaneous playback/record to HD, and a midi port,...but wait...there's more!! Yes, it's a 16/8 bit 11- 44khz synth too, with 16 MB, (or 8 M Word) of on board sample memory, 1MB/word being Rom supplied by Ensoniq. (They are going to market a version loaded for 8 bit use, and one for more serious musician types like you and I, with 1 M word of 16 bit sounds) At 33Khz, it will do 32 voice operation, but 24 voice at 44 Khz. And, you can put a chip on board to make it sound- blaster as well! Whyyyyy such a low low price.... Frankly, I duuno! I mean I've never gotten an Ensoniq product because I never had a big enough bank roll...Oh well, I certainly changed my opinion of that company fast! I'm building a portable PC to house the thing. The operating system of what they call "Soundscape" is also in dram. I uses standard SIMM, and I basically couldn't find anything I didn't like about it. The trick is, can I get it interfaced with Voyetra's SPG, which I've been using for some time? I'd hate the inconvenience of having to exit SPG (which doesn't even have a DOS shell command!) every time I want to load another sample set. The synth has 6 part envelopes, and a 4pole high/low pass per voice. I'm pretty excited about this, obviously. I hope blowing the whistle on it doesn't flood Ensoniq with other excited people who keep me from getting one of the things for 5 months! :-) -bob -- From huey.wst.com!jay Wed Mar 31 06:51:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 149.114.3.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 06:50 PST Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 08:50:57 CST From: jay@huey.wst.com (Jay Prince) Received: by huey.wst.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Welcom Software Technology) id AA28070; Wed, 31 Mar 93 08:50:57 CST Message-Id: <9303311450.AA28070@huey.wst.com> To: s057@kowande.bu.oz.au Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: New Ensoniq Card > From: Stephen Gregory > > Did anyone pick up on the article in one of the newgroups the other day > about the new Ensoniq sampler/synth on a card? I can't remember all the > specs now, but it sounded pretty much like an ASR-10 minus the FX, plus > something like an SD-1. They reckon it will go for around $350 U.S. > Yeah I was shocked too. Is this thing for real, anyone know? > > Steve Well, there were a couple of things about the guy's message that makes me think its' a hoax.... or that he's confused. For instance he talks about it being availible soon and how he can't wait to get his hands on one but then later mentions that he's beta testing one..... If it's true, I'd but it, but I think when Ensoniq releases a sound card it probably won't have all of the features he was purporting. Jay From delilah.lbl.gov!lea Wed Mar 31 07:43:25 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.3.128.141 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 07:43 PST Received: by delilah.lbl.gov (16.6/1.39) id AA28479; Wed, 31 Mar 93 07:46:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 07:46:39 -0800 From: lea@delilah.lbl.gov (Lon Amerman) Message-Id: <9303311546.AA28479@delilah.lbl.gov> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: re: New Ensoniq Card I remember seeing mention of this several months ago in regard to the Gravis Ultra Sound card (which is somehow connected to Ensoniq). It seems that Ensoniq was to develop a synth card (ala Sound Canvass) to support the GUS. Given the alleged sound and sampling capabilities of the GUS, coupled with an Ensoniq synth card, it would appear to be very much "like an ASR-10 minus the FX". Do not be surprised. l From xerox.com!Craig_S._Aubert.LAX1B Wed Mar 31 09:25:01 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 13.1.64.93 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 09:24 PST Received: from LAX1B_Mail_Service_7.LAX1B.Xerox.xns by alpha.xerox.com via XNS id <11751>; Wed, 31 Mar 1993 09:24:15 PST X-NS-Transport-ID: 0000AA0098D3F4D62F72 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 09:23:55 PST From: Craig_S._Aubert.LAX1B@xerox.com Subject: Sampling Blocks To: eps@reed.edu cc: Craig_S._Aubert.LAX1B@xerox.com Message-ID: <"31-Mar-93 9:23:47".*.Craig_S._Aubert.LAX1B@Xerox.com> Craig Anderton has a floppy of really nice sounds......my question is what sampling appoach he may have used to get such nice sounds using so little number of BLOCKS? Thanks You, Craig From uunet.UU.NET!korgrd!korgrd.com!dan Wed Mar 31 11:54:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 11:53 PST Received: from spool.uu.net (via localhost.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA06367; Wed, 31 Mar 93 14:53:46 -0500 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by spool.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 145150.678; Wed, 31 Mar 1993 14:51:50 EST Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20147; Wed, 31 Mar 93 11:22:25 PST Message-Id: <9303311922.AA20147@korgrd.com> Date: 31 Mar 1993 11:25:01 -0800 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: PZMs To: "Peter C. Chady" , "Ensoniq User's Group" Reply to: RE>PZMs > From: Peter C. Chady > > On a more relevant topic: someone mentioned PZM mikes, but it was a > Tandy/ Realistic model. Are there other brands that make PZM's within > reason? I cringe when I think of Realistic products, but that's just a > personal bias. Right now I use mainly an SM58, but sometimes I would > prefer to get a better "open air" sound. Crown, I believe, is the major producer of PZMs. The studios that I have been in use these. I have been told that the Realistic PZMs are seconds from Crown. Note that there are other choices than PZMs for sample micing (depending both on your source and your desired result). Large-diaphragm condensor microphones are the traditional high-end recording microphones; these include staples such as the Neumann U-87, AKG C414, etc. The Neumann mics are likely to be out of the price range of EPS owners (listing as they do for around the price of the sampler itself), but 414's can sometimes be had used for about $600-700, and are a *large* step forward from an SM-58 (I know, I have both). Audio Technica has recently released a lower-cost mic ($600 retail) along these same lines; it got a good review from Electronic Musician perhaps 6 months ago. I believe that the model number was 4066. - Dan Phillips From u.washington.edu!palefox Wed Mar 31 16:51:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.95.136.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 16:51 PST Received: by hardy.u.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA09450; Wed, 31 Mar 93 16:51:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 16:51:24 -0800 From: Romeo Fahl Message-Id: <9304010051.AA09450@hardy.u.washington.edu> Sender: palefox@hardy.u.washington.edu To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Sampling Blocks Cc: Craig_S._Aubert.LAX1B@xerox.com I remember reading an article he wrote, I think about these very sounds. Seems like the secret is Alchemy on a Mac. From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Mar 31 17:00:55 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 16:59 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA16571; Thu, 1 Apr 1993 10:59:30 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08845; Thu, 1 Apr 93 08:57:45 WST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 93 08:57:45 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9304010057.AA08845@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: New Ensoniq Card >Subject: New Ensoniq Card > >Well, there were a couple of things about the guy's message that makes me >think its' a hoax.... or that he's confused. For instance he talks about >it being availible soon and how he can't wait to get his hands on one >but then later mentions that he's beta testing one..... > >If it's true, I'd but it, but I think when Ensoniq releases a sound card it >probably won't have all of the features he was purporting. > >Jay Hi Guy's Seeing as Ensoniq read this mailing-list I am sure that "if it is a hoax" that they would have told us by now, right Ensoniq? :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eecs.umich.edu!tazzzzz Wed Mar 31 17:33:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.212.99.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 17:32 PST Received: by quip.eecs.umich.edu id AA25539 ; Wed, 31 Mar 1993 20:32:25 -0500 From: Kevin Dangoor Message-Id: <199304010132.AA25539@quip.eecs.umich.edu> Subject: Re: New Ensoniq Card To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 31 Mar 93 20:32:25 EST In-Reply-To: <9304010057.AA08845@psy.uwa.edu.au>; from "Scott Fisher" at Apr 1, 93 8:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Actually, Ensoniq's soundcard for the PC was listed in Keyboard a few months ago (Oct 92, I think). I believe it comes from their Emagic subsidiary. The specs listed in Keyboard are something along these lines: 1MB ROM expandable to 8MB ROM/RAM (yes, it sounds like you can add waveform RAM), 16-bit A/D-D/A channels, Soundblaster compatibility. There were some other stats that slip my mind. I don't think the card had FX. I own a Gravis Ultrasound and am a regular reader of comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard so I have plenty about the GUS. Basically, the GUS uses Gravis' GF1 chip which is a modified Ensoniq sound chip. The GUS can have 1MB of waveform RAM, in effect letting the card operate as a sampler. It doesn't have any FX though. And 1MB is the limit. But, it really isn't bad for about $150 (after memory upgrade since 256K is standard). Gravis has released their general MIDI patches (about 4.5MB), which are of, IMHO, mediocre quality. But still, you can load your own sounds into the card (with some work at the moment, they are still working on better utilities for this) and that's a nice feature. Either way, the Emagic card was listed in Keyboard as costing about $350. At the time, they didn't even have a name for it (I don't know if it's called Emagic, or if the card is named something else). Either way, I don't think it's a hoax. It's basically just a piece of RSN hardware. So, stay tuned and we'll see just how cool this card is. -- Kevin (Tazzzzz) Dangoor \ Keeper of the Lynx Cheats and the Usenet University of Michigan / Lynx Guide. Send mail with "lynx:help" Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA \ in the subject for more information. internet: tazzzzz@eecs.umich.edu /----------------------------------------- From grouch.jpl.nasa.gov!BSS Wed Mar 31 21:12:36 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.149.16.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 21:12 PST Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1993 21:07:28 -0800 (PST) From: BSS@grouch.jpl.nasa.gov To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <930331210728.1a4@grouch.jpl.nasa.gov> Subject: Bach's Goldberg Variations on your machine! Ok all you closet Bach-lovers who can't wait to hear the old master perform on your machine...this one is for you. I have spent the last six months of my night-life performing the J. S's grand work for the keyboard...yes the Complete set of the "Goldberg Variations" on my EPS+ and would like to announce that the MIDI version of this gigantic, 53 minute work is now available for all. I have split the work into as many as 8 tracks for all kinds of experimentaion and creativity. Every piece is concert-quality in timing and dynamics. Quantization has been used in rare events and only up to %80. You can check out your accoustic samples for a good reality-check or your new-age groovy sounds for absurd beauty. My own version has become so nifty that I am negotiating with some companies for a CD pressing this year. The sequences were made with Cakewalk and are readily readable on all PC's with MIDI or sound cards. Mac users can use the standard conversion programs for their MAC's. This product is well worth the measly $10.99 (including shipping) that I am asking for compensation. Buy it!!!!! you won't regret it and you will help a fellow musician. If interested send a check or equivalent for $10.99 to: Bahman S. Saless, 1127 E. Del Mar #416, Pasadena, CA 91106. Please include a note to indicate the type of disk you prefer. Hope to hear from ya! Bye From uunet.UU.NET!korgrd!korgrd.com!dan Wed Mar 31 21:41:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 31 Mar 93 21:41 PST Received: from spool.uu.net (via localhost.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA04531; Thu, 1 Apr 93 00:41:06 -0500 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by spool.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 003938.29014; Thu, 1 Apr 1993 00:39:38 EST Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03843; Wed, 31 Mar 93 13:58:36 PST Message-Id: <9303312158.AA03843@korgrd.com> Date: 31 Mar 1993 13:59:10 -0800 From: "Dan" Subject: Re- PZMs To: "Ensoniq User's Group" RE:Re: PZMs 2:04 PM 3/31/93 > From: Peter C. Chady > > On a more relevant topic: someone mentioned PZM mikes, but it was a > Tandy/ Realistic model. Are there other brands that make PZM's within > reason? I cringe when I think of Realistic products, but that's just a > personal bias. Right now I use mainly an SM58, but sometimes I would > prefer to get a better "open air" sound. Crown, I believe, is the major producer of PZMs. The studios that I have been in use these. I have been told that the Realistic PZMs are seconds from Crown. Note that there are choices other than PZMs for sample micing (depending both on your source and your desired result). Large-diaphragm condensor microphones are the traditional high-end recording microphones; these include such staples as the Neumann U-87, AKG C414, etc. The Neumann mics are likely to be out of the price range of EPS owners (listing as they do for around the price of the sampler itself), but 414's can sometimes be found used for about $600-700, and are a *large* step forward from an SM-58 (I know, I have both). Audio Technica has recently released a lower-cost large-diaphragm condensor mic ($600 retail) along these same lines; it got a good review from Electronic Musician perhaps 6 months ago. I believe that the model number is AT 4066. - Dan Phillips From CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!grouch.jpl.nasa.gov!BSS Thu Apr 1 14:30:19 1993 Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:BSS@grouch.jpl.nasa.gov> Received: from 128.228.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 1 Apr 93 14:27 PST Received: from grouch.jpl.nasa.gov by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 01 Apr 93 17:26:32 EST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 13:52:33 -0800 (PST) From: BSS@grouch.jpl.nasa.gov To: eps%reed.edu@cunyvm.cuny.edu Message-Id: <930401135233.2bb@grouch.jpl.nasa.gov> Subject: Bach's Goldberg Variations on your Machine!!! Ok all you closet Bach-lovers who can't wait to hear the old master perform on your machine...this one is for you. I have spent the last six months of my night-life performing the J. S's grand work for the keyboard...yes the Complete set of the "Goldberg Variations" on my EPS+ and would like to announce that the MIDI version of this gigantic, 53 minute work is now available for all. I have split the work into as many as 8 tracks for all kinds of experimentaion and creativity. Every piece is concert-quality in timing and dynamics. Quantization has been used in rare events and only up to %80. You can check out your accoustic samples for a good reality-check or your new-age groovy sounds for absurd beauty. My own version has become so nifty that I am negotiating with some companies for a CD pressing this year. The sequences were made with Cakewalk and are readily readable on all PC's with MIDI or sound cards. Mac users can use the standard conversion programs for their MAC's. This product is well worth the measly $10.99 (including shipping) that I am asking for compensation. Buy it!!!!! you won't regret it and you will help a fellow musician. If interested send a check or equivalent for $10.99 to: Bahman S. Saless, 1127 E. Del Mar #416, Pasadena, CA 91106. Please include a note to indicate the type of disk you prefer. You can also call me at (818) 584-0020. Hope to hear from ya! Bye From Ensoniq.COM!bill Thu Apr 1 15:16:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 1 Apr 93 15:15 PST Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA21995; Thu, 1 Apr 93 18:15:48 EST X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA09262; Thu, 1 Apr 93 18:14:48 EST Message-Id: <9304012314.AA09262@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA00203; Thu, 1 Apr 93 18:11:02 EST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 93 18:11:02 EST From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: New Ensoniq Card Well, things are quite hectic putting the finishing touches on the TS-10, but if you must know there is, indeed, beta testing going on for an Ensoniq-designed sound card. The design is being picked up by computer-card manufacturers, who will customize it it different ways and call it their own. No loading of EPS samples will happen for quite some time. GM and stereo hard-disk recording are the main features. Bill From cs.wisc.edu!johnson%whipple.cs.wisc.edu Fri Apr 2 07:57:46 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.105.1.94 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 93 07:56 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 93 09:56:16 -0600 From: johnson%whipple@cs.wisc.edu Message-Id: <9304021556.AA11351@snake33.cs.wisc.edu> Received: by snake33.cs.wisc.edu; Fri, 2 Apr 93 09:56:16 -0600 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Broken Kbd. I have an EPS Classic that crashes with ERROR 131 when I try to load a sound. It doesn't happen every time. It runs in streaks of being unusable for about 10 minutes. Occasionally it will load sounds with all sorts of garbage in them that sounds like random bits. Also, it's given me a FILE SYSTEM ERROR once or twice. When it works, it works for about 10 minutes. Also, other random things go wrong, mostly ERROR 131 during sequence or waveform commands, but other freaky things too. Those are pretty rare. When it works, it works for about 10 minutes. I've tried new OS disks, different ambient temperatures, new sound disks, clean power supplies, and just being patient. Any suggestions? Oh, I should mention that it has a 4x memory expander and no SCSI. We also reseated the expander. Another related question. It's been into our local Ensoniq dealer twice for this same problem. Last time they replaced the Enter/Yes button. They said it was noisy and was causing errors. I was skeptical, but the board worked. Yesterday they reseated all the ICs and cleaned all the sockets. The repair man said that it could also be a bad solder joint. He gave us a keyboard that worked for three hours. He also insisted that it wasn't the same problem as before, and that our current problem had nothing to do with the Enter button. Should I trust this dealer? Thanks much. -Kai Johnson P.S. I'm supposed to play live with this keyboard on Saturday. From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Fri Apr 2 10:39:38 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 93 10:38 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <292913>; Fri, 2 Apr 1993 13:38:45 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11330; Fri, 2 Apr 93 13:38:32 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9304021838.AA11330@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: INSTEDIT uploaded to eps.reed.edu To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 13:38:30 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] INSTEDIT is a program to display instrument info, and to explode instruments into lots of files (layers, pitch tables, etc.) in a subdirectory. It runs on PC-compatibles. This is a very primitive version. Suggestions are welcome. -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj Sat Apr 3 22:51:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.128.59 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 3 Apr 93 22:49 PST Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA16048; Sun, 4 Apr 93 01:49:53 -0500 From: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) Message-Id: <9304040649.AA16048@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: EPS Fan Mounting Ideas, Case Purchasing Suggestions Wanted To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1993 01:49:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2607 I am close to buying an ATA-grade flight case -- that is, one which meets Airline Transportation Association specification 300, Category 1, and Mil Spec 810D -- for my Ensoniq (classic) EPS, and I have some questions: 1. There was some talk recently about permanently installing a cooling fan within or on the EPS classic chassis, and I would like to know if it is practically possible to put a fan in an EPS classic that already has a Maartists 4X RAM expander and SCSI port. Is there any room left in the unit when these are present, and can the fan be run without introducing excessive electromagnetic interference or dust buildup? Where does the air come from/go to? (There are no holes in _my_ EPS classic chassis! Where would the holes go?) It might be best to have a caged fan attached externally, directly in front of the heat sink; if this were the case, though, would it be possible to run the fan wiring over to the 120/240V port on the EPS classic so I don't have to plug in two cords? (I guess there are pros and cons to this, since I would have to go and mess with the fan any time I moved to/from an environment that had a 240V outlet rating. Nonetheless, it's kinda weird to have two electrical cords sticking out of one appliance.) What is the best fan out there for such a purpose? Remember that this EPS classic will be dragged around a lot, and the EPS classic must support the fan itself; it won't be sitting on a tabletop. I need something that is lightweight, easy to attach to the EPS classic chassis (and possibly the 120V power line terminals inside the EPS classic), and hard to damage or snag one's clothes on. 2. What effect, in practice, will the additional fan have on the overall dimensions of the unit? I would imagine that the fan would add about three inches to the depth; what have the individuals on this list who have done this modification ended up with? Since I am going to be ordering a case for an EPS classic which may have the aforementioned modification, I cannot use the standard EPS classic case design, since the fan will be poking out the back (assuming the fan goes on the outside). I may not have the chance to make the modification until after the case is built, unfortunately; if this happens, how much additional foam depth should be added to the rear of the case in order to accomodate this future appendage? Questions, questions, questions; I'll post a summary if desired. Thanks for reading. -- John Davison davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu From ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj Sat Apr 3 23:00:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.128.59 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 3 Apr 93 23:00 PST Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA17221; Sun, 4 Apr 93 02:00:09 -0500 From: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) Message-Id: <9304040700.AA17221@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: one more question To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1993 02:00:03 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 292 Horror stories and recommendations regarding EPS classic ATA-grade (Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, and Mil Spec 810D) flight cases are appreciated; what kind did/would _you_ buy? Where from? Thanks again! -- John Davison davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Sun Apr 4 23:27:45 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 4 Apr 93 23:25 PDT Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA25622 Mon, 5 Apr 1993 16:24:56 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA21937; Mon, 5 Apr 93 16:24:51 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9304050624.21937@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Some new samples To: eps-ftp@reed.edu, eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 16:24:50 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi I've just uploaded 4 disks of samples: BASSES.GKH: A selection of synth basses and the coathanger-bass. HEAVY*.GKH: 3 disks - one instrument. These are some samples that a friend took in a sheet-metal workshop with his dat machine. Very punchy, but I've yet to find a use for them. Enjoy. Thomas ps. Tomorrow (or maybe later this week) I'll upload a disk of TB303 basses which I sampled a while back - forgot to bring it into the uni today.... From ualr.edu!jabussey Mon Apr 5 06:48:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 5 Apr 93 06:47 PDT Received: from odin.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Mon, 5 Apr 1993 08:45 CDT Received: by ualr.edu (MX V3.1) id 25141; Mon, 05 Apr 1993 07:08:06 EDT Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1993 07:07:54 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: The Archive Sender: jabussey@ualr.edu To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <0096A909.7E28C7C0.25141@ualr.edu> Whats the address of the sample archive again? Jacque From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Mon Apr 5 12:34:29 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 5 Apr 93 12:33 PDT Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Mon, 5 Apr 93 14:33:36 -0500 id AA01480 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Mon, 5 Apr 93 14:33:01 -0500 id AA18942 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 14:17:00 -0500 (CDT) From: MuffinHead Subject: Sampling To: drum@elof.iit.edu, EPS List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This weekend, I sampled my three toms into my EPS 16+. I took three samples from each tom - soft, medium, and loud - and mixed them to respond to different velocities. These are *the* most life-like tom samples I've ever heard as far as having different characteristics at different levels of attack. They sound incredible through headphones. I just hope they still sound good once they get mixed with the rest of the band. I gave them pitch randomness of 0,10 on the soft samples to 0,20 on the loud ones. The velocity ranges are 0,0-30,50; 30,50-70,90; 70,90-127,127, so the sample crossover is smooth and restrike-cutoff is almost eliminated. That's what bugs me about some samples. You hit hard, then soft, and the loud sample is cut off. The closest I've heard tone-wise are the toms from Jazz Drums on the original disks, but even those are too monophonic. Just thought I'd babble about my work. :) Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From natinst.com!radian!jlange Thu Apr 8 12:06:07 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.164.4.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 8 Apr 93 12:02 PDT Received: from radian.UUCP by natinst.com with UUCP id AA03642 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 8 Apr 1993 14:02:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199304081902.AA03642@natinst.com> Received: by zippy.radian.com (16.8/16.2) id AA22109; Thu, 8 Apr 93 13:20:02 -0500 From: John Lange Subject: PD sample descriptions available To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 13:19:51 CDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] Hello fellow EPSers, I have just completed the compilation of a description of every file in the PD directory on nexttues.reed.edu. The list may be ftp'd from nexttues.reed.edu in the incoming directory (smpldesc.txt). Although parts of it are quite subjective, it does provide a roadmap into these files by providing patch names, sizes, descriptions, etc. The list is hereby entered into the public domain. I intend to eventually catalog the vfx directory as well as the main sample directory. Please pass along any suggestions or modifications to me. As you browse through the file, please forgive my rather shallow knowledge of music instruments. I hope it helps everyone to navigate through all of those files easier. Cheers, John Lange (jlange@zippy.radian.com) Radian Corp. (512)454-4797 Box 201088 Austin, TX 78720-1088 From horde Thu Apr 8 12:30:37 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 8 Apr 93 12:29 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 12:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: Re: PD sample descriptions available To: John Lange cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <199304081902.AA03642@natinst.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1993, John Lange wrote: > I have just completed the compilation of a description of every file in > the PD directory on nexttues.reed.edu. The list may be ftp'd from > nexttues.reed.edu in the incoming directory (smpldesc.txt). Thanks to John for making this catalog. I've moved it to ftp.reed.edu:/pub/eps/samples/PD/DESCRIPTIONS If you folks have ideas as to how to best arrange the samples directory I'd appreciate it. Right now it looks sort of like a mess. I've rearranged things to look like: /pub/eps/samples/PD /aiff (moved from /pub/eps/aiff) /misc (moved from /pub/eps/samples) /vfx -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) From horde Thu Apr 8 16:18:40 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 8 Apr 93 16:17 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 16:17 PDT From: horde (Mr. Heiji Horde) To: eps@reed.edu, paradise-announce@reed.edu Subject: Ftp site administrata... On Friday, April 9th 1993, from 9am - 11am PST, service to the anonymous ftp server at Reed College will be sporadic while I do a security upgrade to the software. Please be warned now that if you try to connect during those periods, your connection may drop without warning. Thank you, -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Mon Apr 12 07:19:10 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 93 07:17 PDT Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GWX2OUJK348ZEE5N@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Mon, 12 Apr 1993 09:16:54 CDT Date: 12 Apr 1993 09:16:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Pressure-key sequencer data To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GWX2OUJK368ZEE5N@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT There's a "Hint" on page 16 of my ASR-10 manual which says that Poly-Key pressure will generate a large amout of data and consume sequencer memory very fast. It says I should turn pressure off when not needed. What does it mean? edit/amp and turn the volume-mod from 'pressure' to 'off'? For each wavesample I wish to not use pressure with??? I tried the edit/system basechan pressure (setting it to 'off'), but this doesn't turn off any pressure mods. --- Different question: I wish to have my global bend set to 3, instead of 2 (which is the default), for a demo I have made; however, to save global-parameters the ASR requires that the disk have the OS on it! Is there anyway to save a changed global parameter along with a bank or song/sequences, and have it load when you load the bank (with song+seqs)?? Thanks for your time! -james From ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj Mon Apr 12 10:24:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.128.59 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 93 10:24 PDT Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA14529; Mon, 12 Apr 93 12:23:46 -0500 From: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) Message-Id: <9304121723.AA14529@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: no subject (file transmission) To: various@ecn.purdue.edu, eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) (and other equipment), flight@ecn.purdue.edu, case@ecn.purdue.edu, information@ecn.purdue.edu, and@ecn.purdue.edu, questions@ecn.purdue.edu, eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 12:23:45 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 17851 A while ago I wrote: > I am about to buy three ATA-grade (Airline Transportation Association >specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D) cases (total cost will probably >be around $1000 or more), but before I do, I would like to ask you readers he >for any opinions regarding ease of repair and related issues. ... > I am looking at a few companies -- Anvil, Calzone, Star Case, >Opti-Case, and Caravan -- and it seems to me that as long as you are in the >market for ATA cases and you make your specifications reasonably clear when y >order, the only real criterion distinguishing case manufacturers is the sale >price. I was (and still am) looking for three cases: one for an Ensoniq EPS, one for a Roland Octapad II, and one 16-space (or so) shock-mounted (2 inches foam on top, bottom, left and right) rack case. The ideal EPS case and Octapad case would have 1/4" wood and two metal lid stays; for the rack case, I was looking for 1/2" wood on the inside, either 1/4" or 1/2" wood on the outside, locking casters -- removable if possible, and hopefully with one or two of the lids serving an adjoining table (e.g. Anvil Cases' "Modular Interlocking Case System"). Here is some information I got: ---------------------------------------- Hardigg Cases makes funny-looking plastic cases that may or may not be compliant with the Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D -- their brochure doesn't say. Their rack case are especially interesting, as they feature built-in cable storage pouches and lid hangers in addition to elastomaric shock mounts (eight little cylindrical shock absorbers that suspend the rack). In addition, the Hardigg cases I saw all seem to be made of heavy plastic, which makes them unique among all of the case manufacturers listed here. More opinions on Hardigg cases would be appreciated; despite their funny appearance, these may be the way to go, at least for a rack case. ---------------------------------------- Anvil Cases are the big rock-and-roll case company; the only distinguishing thing about their cases is the fact that they rivet the valances from the outside, rather than having the rivets under the valances (e.g. Calzone, Star Case). They seem functionally identical to Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc.) A friend of mine described their prices as "atrocious"; I haven't seen any prices. ---------------------------------------- Star Case's ATA-grade cases seem to be in the same league as Anvil, Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, etc., but Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com) writes that "[In my humble opinion,] Star cases are the Rolls Royce of cases - they seem to have the best resistance to getting munged out of shape, their extruded mating parts seem to be a bit heavier than the rest, and they generally provide a really slick finish that's easy to wipe clean (and a bitch to stencil on, too)." In addition, their rack cases have mating covers -- not interchangeable ones. Here's the quote I received: Ensoniq EPS Keyboard inside shell size: 43 in. x 16 in. x 17 in. Style A Hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 poly (soft foam) blocking on one plane of case 7F 1 metal lid stay MS Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 832.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 696.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 668.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 534.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 404.00 27 space x 18" Deep F4 Rack Case 27 space Rack Style F4 Shock Mounted, Front & Rear Lids 18 inches rackable depth excluding lids 1 Front EIA tapped rack rails FT 1 3.3" h.d. swivel caster set (4 casters) 3C Rear Tapped Rack Rail add $162.00 Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 1667.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 1413.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 1360.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 1110.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) not recommended Roland Pad-80 Octapad II & Power Supply inside shell size: 24 in x 15 in. x 7 in. Style A hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 2 in. 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 3 in. 1 metal lid stay MS 1 cavity cutout in foam CY Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 622.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 524.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 504.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 408.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 315.00 Note that the quote for the rack case assumes 27 spaces -- I would be buying something more like 16 spaces. Still, these are clearly "Rolls Royce" prices. ---------------------------------------- Caravan cases look like they are are in the same ballpark as Anvil Calzone, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc. A picture of their extrusion edge would seem to indicate that their extrusion edges are better quality than Opti-Case's. Valances are single tongue-and-groove. No price quotes from them yet. ---------------------------------------- Opti-Case, Inc. has hardware that looks slightly cheesier than that of, for example, Caravan, but they still claim to be compliant with Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D. Their valances are double tongue-and-groove, which they claim to be good enough to privide a water- and air-tight seal. (I wonder.) The biggest casters they make are 3.5" 250-lb., which seems relatively small to me. Opti-Case, Inc. quoted the following price (which include a "Transoniq Hacker subscriber discount") for an Ensoniq EPS ATA case: Ensoniq EPS $249 ---------------------------------------- Keal Case claim to supply big name rock-and-roll acts like U2 and the Rolling Stones. Their rack cases have interchangeable lids. I have no literature from them, but I do have quotes for ATA cases. They are: 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/4" plywood 537.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/4" plywood 593.00 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/2" plywood 703.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/2" plywood 759.00 Ensoniq EPS case (no metal lid stays -- one ribbon lid stay instead) 298.00 Roland PAD-80 Octapad II case 195.00 ---------------------------------------- Here are some address which may help out people who are looking for flight cases: Anvil Cases Subsidiary of Zero Corporation 15650 Salt Lake Avenue City of Industry, CA 91745 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1202 LaPurnte, CA 91749 TEL: (800) FLY-ANVIL TEL: (800) 359-2684 TEL: (818) 968-4100 FAX: (818) 968-1703 Calzone Case Company Sales & Manufacturing: 225 Black Rock Ave. Bridgeport, CT 06605 Manufacturing: Dallas, TX Phone: (203) 367-5766 Caravan Protective Cases 51 Hawthorne St. Elyria, Ohio 44035 (216) 366-9065 Hardigg Cases A Division of Hardigg Industries, Inc. P.O. Box 201 393 North Main Street South Deerfield, MA 01373 TEL: (413) 665-2163 TEL: (800) 843-2687 FAX: (413) 665-8061 Keal Case: (512) 244-9100 Opti-Case, Inc. Rt. 6, Box 235 Henderson, Texas 75652 TEL: (800) 637-6635 FAX: (903) 657-6030 Star Case Manufacturing Co., Inc. Corporate Headquarters 648 Superior Munster, IN 46321 TEL: (219) 922-4440 TEL: (800) 822-STAR (outside Indiana) TEL: (800) 782-CASE (inside Indiana) FAX: (219) 922-4442 other manufacturers I haven't checked out: API: (410) 555-1212 and ask _them_... SKB: (714) 637-1252 As always, advice and comments are appreciated. I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do. I was thinking seriously about Star Case, since they are located next to my hometown, but then I saw their quote... Article 3823 of rec.audio.pro: Xref: en.ecn.purdue.edu rec.music.makers:24191 rec.music.makers.synth:4644 rec.audio.pro:3823 rec.travel:36719 Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.audio.pro,rec.travel Path: en.ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) Subject: Case Manufacturers (was Re: Which Case Manufacturer Should I Buy From?) Message-ID: <1993Apr12.171541.13395@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Followup-To: rec.audio.pro Summary: various quotes...Star Case quotes were appalling Keywords: Airline Transportation Association Star Case Opti-Case Anvil Calzone Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network References: <1993Apr7.124813.1707@d-and-d.com> <1993Apr7.132523.12702@ac.dal.ca> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 12 Apr 93 17:15:41 GMT Lines: 212 A while ago I wrote: > I am about to buy three ATA-grade (Airline Transportation Association >specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D) cases (total cost will probably >be around $1000 or more), but before I do, I would like to ask you readers he >for any opinions regarding ease of repair and related issues. ... > I am looking at a few companies -- Anvil, Calzone, Star Case, >Opti-Case, and Caravan -- and it seems to me that as long as you are in the >market for ATA cases and you make your specifications reasonably clear when y >order, the only real criterion distinguishing case manufacturers is the sale >price. I was (and still am) looking for three cases: one for an Ensoniq EPS, one for a Roland Octapad II, and one 16-space (or so) shock-mounted (2 inches foam on top, bottom, left and right) rack case. The ideal EPS case and Octapad case would have 1/4" wood and two metal lid stays; for the rack case, I was looking for 1/2" wood on the inside, either 1/4" or 1/2" wood on the outside, locking casters -- removable if possible, and hopefully with one or two of the lids serving an adjoining table (e.g. Anvil Cases' "Modular Interlocking Case System"). Here is some information I got: ---------------------------------------- Hardigg Cases makes funny-looking plastic cases that may or may not be compliant with the Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D -- their brochure doesn't say. Their rack case are especially interesting, as they feature built-in cable storage pouches and lid hangers in addition to elastomaric shock mounts (eight little cylindrical shock absorbers that suspend the rack). In addition, the Hardigg cases I saw all seem to be made of heavy plastic, which makes them unique among all of the case manufacturers listed here. More opinions on Hardigg cases would be appreciated; despite their funny appearance, these may be the way to go, at least for a rack case. ---------------------------------------- Anvil Cases are the big rock-and-roll case company; the only distinguishing thing about their cases is the fact that they rivet the valances from the outside, rather than having the rivets under the valances (e.g. Calzone, Star Case). They seem functionally identical to Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc.) A friend of mine described their prices as "atrocious"; I haven't seen any prices. ---------------------------------------- Star Case's ATA-grade cases seem to be in the same league as Anvil, Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, etc., but Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com) writes that "[In my humble opinion,] Star cases are the Rolls Royce of cases - they seem to have the best resistance to getting munged out of shape, their extruded mating parts seem to be a bit heavier than the rest, and they generally provide a really slick finish that's easy to wipe clean (and a bitch to stencil on, too)." In addition, their rack cases have mating covers -- not interchangeable ones. Here's the quote I received: Ensoniq EPS Keyboard inside shell size: 43 in. x 16 in. x 17 in. Style A Hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 poly (soft foam) blocking on one plane of case 7F 1 metal lid stay MS Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 832.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 696.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 668.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 534.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 404.00 27 space x 18" Deep F4 Rack Case 27 space Rack Style F4 Shock Mounted, Front & Rear Lids 18 inches rackable depth excluding lids 1 Front EIA tapped rack rails FT 1 3.3" h.d. swivel caster set (4 casters) 3C Rear Tapped Rack Rail add $162.00 Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 1667.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 1413.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 1360.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 1110.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) not recommended Roland Pad-80 Octapad II & Power Supply inside shell size: 24 in x 15 in. x 7 in. Style A hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 2 in. 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 3 in. 1 metal lid stay MS 1 cavity cutout in foam CY Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 622.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 524.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 504.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 408.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 315.00 Note that the quote for the rack case assumes 27 spaces -- I would be buying something more like 16 spaces. Still, these are clearly "Rolls Royce" prices. ---------------------------------------- Caravan cases look like they are are in the same ballpark as Anvil Calzone, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc. A picture of their extrusion edge would seem to indicate that their extrusion edges are better quality than Opti-Case's. Valances are single tongue-and-groove. No price quotes from them yet. ---------------------------------------- Opti-Case, Inc. has hardware that looks slightly cheesier than that of, for example, Caravan, but they still claim to be compliant with Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D. Their valances are double tongue-and-groove, which they claim to be good enough to privide a water- and air-tight seal. (I wonder.) The biggest casters they make are 3.5" 250-lb., which seems relatively small to me. Opti-Case, Inc. quoted the following price (which include a "Transoniq Hacker subscriber discount") for an Ensoniq EPS ATA case: Ensoniq EPS $249 ---------------------------------------- Keal Case claim to supply big name rock-and-roll acts like U2 and the Rolling Stones. Their rack cases have interchangeable lids. I have no literature from them, but I do have quotes for ATA cases. They are: 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/4" plywood 537.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/4" plywood 593.00 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/2" plywood 703.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/2" plywood 759.00 Ensoniq EPS case (no metal lid stays -- one ribbon lid stay instead) 298.00 Roland PAD-80 Octapad II case 195.00 ---------------------------------------- Here are some address which may help out people who are looking for flight cases: Anvil Cases Subsidiary of Zero Corporation 15650 Salt Lake Avenue City of Industry, CA 91745 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1202 LaPurnte, CA 91749 TEL: (800) FLY-ANVIL TEL: (800) 359-2684 TEL: (818) 968-4100 FAX: (818) 968-1703 Calzone Case Company Sales & Manufacturing: 225 Black Rock Ave. Bridgeport, CT 06605 Manufacturing: Dallas, TX Phone: (203) 367-5766 Caravan Protective Cases 51 Hawthorne St. Elyria, Ohio 44035 (216) 366-9065 Hardigg Cases A Division of Hardigg Industries, Inc. P.O. Box 201 393 North Main Street South Deerfield, MA 01373 TEL: (413) 665-2163 TEL: (800) 843-2687 FAX: (413) 665-8061 Keal Case: (512) 244-9100 Opti-Case, Inc. Rt. 6, Box 235 Henderson, Texas 75652 TEL: (800) 637-6635 FAX: (903) 657-6030 Star Case Manufacturing Co., Inc. Corporate Headquarters 648 Superior Munster, IN 46321 TEL: (219) 922-4440 TEL: (800) 822-STAR (outside Indiana) TEL: (800) 782-CASE (inside Indiana) FAX: (219) 922-4442 other manufacturers I haven't checked out: API: (410) 555-1212 and ask _them_... SKB: (714) 637-1252 As always, advice and comments (e-mail encouraged) are appreciated. I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do. I was thinking seriously about Star Case, since they are located next to my hometown, but then I saw their quote... About that EPS fan thing, are the dimensions described above in the Star Case quote sufficient to accomodate the fan retrofits that users have done? From uunet.UU.NET!korgrd!korgrd.com!dan Mon Apr 12 13:18:58 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 93 13:18 PDT Received: from spool.uu.net (via localhost.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA19317; Mon, 12 Apr 93 16:18:25 -0400 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by spool.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 161627.10742; Mon, 12 Apr 1993 16:16:27 EDT Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27654; Mon, 12 Apr 93 13:06:15 PDT Message-Id: <9304122006.AA27654@korgrd.com> Date: 12 Apr 1993 13:06:15 -0800 From: "Dan" Subject: Re- Pressure-key sequencer To: "Ensoniq User's Group" RE:Re: Pressure-key sequencer data 12:52 PM 4/12/93 CRAZY DJ writes: > There's a "Hint" on page 16 of my ASR-10 manual which says that Poly-Key > pressure will generate a large amout of data and consume sequencer memory > very fast. > > It says I should turn pressure off when not needed. > > What does it mean? edit/amp and turn the volume-mod from 'pressure' to 'off'? > For each wavesample I wish to not use pressure with??? > > I tried the edit/system basechan pressure (setting it to 'off'), but this > doesn't turn off any pressure mods. The pressure data comes from the keyboard, not from the Instrument, Wavesample, etc; thus, the status of any pressure modulation routings has no effect on whether or not the keyboard is generating poly pressure. The Base Channel Pressure setting is the only relevant parameter, and it only affects data coming from the keyboard; i.e., if you have already recorded a part with poly pressure, it will still play back with poly pressure. Thus, you could for instance turn off pressure entirely when recording a drum part (yes, I know that some drum programs can make use of pressure - but bear with me), use channel pressure for a pad, and then use poly pressure for special cases - such as a string section in which each line is played seperately, and thus has its own aftertouch articulation. If you're either running out of memory in your sequencer, then you could try this approach. In my setup, though, I record the EPS output into Performer (a sequencer running on my Macintosh), and just strip out the pressure data after the fact if it's not needed - on drums, for instance. I believe that you can do this from the ASR's sequencer, as well. It's probably less of a hassle than continuously switching pressure on and off. - Dan Phillips From ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj Mon Apr 12 13:32:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.128.59 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 93 13:31 PDT Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA11919; Mon, 12 Apr 93 15:30:49 -0500 Received: from bank.ecn.purdue.edu by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA21458; Mon, 12 Apr 93 13:07:55 -0500 Received: from motgate.mot.com by bank.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA10800; Mon, 12 Apr 93 13:07:33 -0500 Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.13 for ) id AA22790; Mon, 12 Apr 1993 13:07:32 -0500 Received: by pobox.mot.com (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.12 for ) id AA07940; Mon, 12 Apr 1993 13:06:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 13:06:00 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <199304121806.AA07940@pobox.mot.com> To: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Sender: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While talking to il02dns1.comm.mot.com: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... 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User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: from motgate.mot.com by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.12 for ) id AA07938; Mon, 12 Apr 1993 13:06:00 -0500 Received: from reed.edu by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.13) id AA22720; Mon, 12 Apr 1993 13:05:53 -0500 Received: from 128.46.128.59 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 93 10:24 PDT Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA14529; Mon, 12 Apr 93 12:23:46 -0500 From: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) Message-Id: <9304121723.AA14529@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: no subject (file transmission) To: various@ecn.purdue.edu, eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) (and other equipment), flight@ecn.purdue.edu, case@ecn.purdue.edu, information@ecn.purdue.edu, and@ecn.purdue.edu, questions@ecn.purdue.edu, eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 12:23:45 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 17851 A while ago I wrote: > I am about to buy three ATA-grade (Airline Transportation Association >specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D) cases (total cost will probably >be around $1000 or more), but before I do, I would like to ask you readers he >for any opinions regarding ease of repair and related issues. ... > I am looking at a few companies -- Anvil, Calzone, Star Case, >Opti-Case, and Caravan -- and it seems to me that as long as you are in the >market for ATA cases and you make your specifications reasonably clear when y >order, the only real criterion distinguishing case manufacturers is the sale >price. I was (and still am) looking for three cases: one for an Ensoniq EPS, one for a Roland Octapad II, and one 16-space (or so) shock-mounted (2 inches foam on top, bottom, left and right) rack case. The ideal EPS case and Octapad case would have 1/4" wood and two metal lid stays; for the rack case, I was looking for 1/2" wood on the inside, either 1/4" or 1/2" wood on the outside, locking casters -- removable if possible, and hopefully with one or two of the lids serving an adjoining table (e.g. Anvil Cases' "Modular Interlocking Case System"). Here is some information I got: ---------------------------------------- Hardigg Cases makes funny-looking plastic cases that may or may not be compliant with the Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D -- their brochure doesn't say. Their rack case are especially interesting, as they feature built-in cable storage pouches and lid hangers in addition to elastomaric shock mounts (eight little cylindrical shock absorbers that suspend the rack). In addition, the Hardigg cases I saw all seem to be made of heavy plastic, which makes them unique among all of the case manufacturers listed here. More opinions on Hardigg cases would be appreciated; despite their funny appearance, these may be the way to go, at least for a rack case. ---------------------------------------- Anvil Cases are the big rock-and-roll case company; the only distinguishing thing about their cases is the fact that they rivet the valances from the outside, rather than having the rivets under the valances (e.g. Calzone, Star Case). They seem functionally identical to Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc.) A friend of mine described their prices as "atrocious"; I haven't seen any prices. ---------------------------------------- Star Case's ATA-grade cases seem to be in the same league as Anvil, Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, etc., but Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com) writes that "[In my humble opinion,] Star cases are the Rolls Royce of cases - they seem to have the best resistance to getting munged out of shape, their extruded mating parts seem to be a bit heavier than the rest, and they generally provide a really slick finish that's easy to wipe clean (and a bitch to stencil on, too)." In addition, their rack cases have mating covers -- not interchangeable ones. Here's the quote I received: Ensoniq EPS Keyboard inside shell size: 43 in. x 16 in. x 17 in. Style A Hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 poly (soft foam) blocking on one plane of case 7F 1 metal lid stay MS Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 832.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 696.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 668.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 534.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 404.00 27 space x 18" Deep F4 Rack Case 27 space Rack Style F4 Shock Mounted, Front & Rear Lids 18 inches rackable depth excluding lids 1 Front EIA tapped rack rails FT 1 3.3" h.d. swivel caster set (4 casters) 3C Rear Tapped Rack Rail add $162.00 Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 1667.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 1413.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 1360.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 1110.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) not recommended Roland Pad-80 Octapad II & Power Supply inside shell size: 24 in x 15 in. x 7 in. Style A hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 2 in. 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 3 in. 1 metal lid stay MS 1 cavity cutout in foam CY Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 622.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 524.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 504.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 408.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 315.00 Note that the quote for the rack case assumes 27 spaces -- I would be buying something more like 16 spaces. Still, these are clearly "Rolls Royce" prices. ---------------------------------------- Caravan cases look like they are are in the same ballpark as Anvil Calzone, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc. A picture of their extrusion edge would seem to indicate that their extrusion edges are better quality than Opti-Case's. Valances are single tongue-and-groove. No price quotes from them yet. ---------------------------------------- Opti-Case, Inc. has hardware that looks slightly cheesier than that of, for example, Caravan, but they still claim to be compliant with Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D. Their valances are double tongue-and-groove, which they claim to be good enough to privide a water- and air-tight seal. (I wonder.) The biggest casters they make are 3.5" 250-lb., which seems relatively small to me. Opti-Case, Inc. quoted the following price (which include a "Transoniq Hacker subscriber discount") for an Ensoniq EPS ATA case: Ensoniq EPS $249 ---------------------------------------- Keal Case claim to supply big name rock-and-roll acts like U2 and the Rolling Stones. Their rack cases have interchangeable lids. I have no literature from them, but I do have quotes for ATA cases. They are: 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/4" plywood 537.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/4" plywood 593.00 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/2" plywood 703.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/2" plywood 759.00 Ensoniq EPS case (no metal lid stays -- one ribbon lid stay instead) 298.00 Roland PAD-80 Octapad II case 195.00 ---------------------------------------- Here are some address which may help out people who are looking for flight cases: Anvil Cases Subsidiary of Zero Corporation 15650 Salt Lake Avenue City of Industry, CA 91745 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1202 LaPurnte, CA 91749 TEL: (800) FLY-ANVIL TEL: (800) 359-2684 TEL: (818) 968-4100 FAX: (818) 968-1703 Calzone Case Company Sales & Manufacturing: 225 Black Rock Ave. Bridgeport, CT 06605 Manufacturing: Dallas, TX Phone: (203) 367-5766 Caravan Protective Cases 51 Hawthorne St. Elyria, Ohio 44035 (216) 366-9065 Hardigg Cases A Division of Hardigg Industries, Inc. P.O. Box 201 393 North Main Street South Deerfield, MA 01373 TEL: (413) 665-2163 TEL: (800) 843-2687 FAX: (413) 665-8061 Keal Case: (512) 244-9100 Opti-Case, Inc. Rt. 6, Box 235 Henderson, Texas 75652 TEL: (800) 637-6635 FAX: (903) 657-6030 Star Case Manufacturing Co., Inc. Corporate Headquarters 648 Superior Munster, IN 46321 TEL: (219) 922-4440 TEL: (800) 822-STAR (outside Indiana) TEL: (800) 782-CASE (inside Indiana) FAX: (219) 922-4442 other manufacturers I haven't checked out: API: (410) 555-1212 and ask _them_... SKB: (714) 637-1252 As always, advice and comments are appreciated. I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do. I was thinking seriously about Star Case, since they are located next to my hometown, but then I saw their quote... Article 3823 of rec.audio.pro: Xref: en.ecn.purdue.edu rec.music.makers:24191 rec.music.makers.synth:4644 rec.audio.pro:3823 rec.travel:36719 Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth,rec.audio.pro,rec.travel Path: en.ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) Subject: Case Manufacturers (was Re: Which Case Manufacturer Should I Buy From?) Message-ID: <1993Apr12.171541.13395@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Followup-To: rec.audio.pro Summary: various quotes...Star Case quotes were appalling Keywords: Airline Transportation Association Star Case Opti-Case Anvil Calzone Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network References: <1993Apr7.124813.1707@d-and-d.com> <1993Apr7.132523.12702@ac.dal.ca> Distribution: na Date: Mon, 12 Apr 93 17:15:41 GMT Lines: 212 A while ago I wrote: > I am about to buy three ATA-grade (Airline Transportation Association >specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D) cases (total cost will probably >be around $1000 or more), but before I do, I would like to ask you readers he >for any opinions regarding ease of repair and related issues. ... > I am looking at a few companies -- Anvil, Calzone, Star Case, >Opti-Case, and Caravan -- and it seems to me that as long as you are in the >market for ATA cases and you make your specifications reasonably clear when y >order, the only real criterion distinguishing case manufacturers is the sale >price. I was (and still am) looking for three cases: one for an Ensoniq EPS, one for a Roland Octapad II, and one 16-space (or so) shock-mounted (2 inches foam on top, bottom, left and right) rack case. The ideal EPS case and Octapad case would have 1/4" wood and two metal lid stays; for the rack case, I was looking for 1/2" wood on the inside, either 1/4" or 1/2" wood on the outside, locking casters -- removable if possible, and hopefully with one or two of the lids serving an adjoining table (e.g. Anvil Cases' "Modular Interlocking Case System"). Here is some information I got: ---------------------------------------- Hardigg Cases makes funny-looking plastic cases that may or may not be compliant with the Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D -- their brochure doesn't say. Their rack case are especially interesting, as they feature built-in cable storage pouches and lid hangers in addition to elastomaric shock mounts (eight little cylindrical shock absorbers that suspend the rack). In addition, the Hardigg cases I saw all seem to be made of heavy plastic, which makes them unique among all of the case manufacturers listed here. More opinions on Hardigg cases would be appreciated; despite their funny appearance, these may be the way to go, at least for a rack case. ---------------------------------------- Anvil Cases are the big rock-and-roll case company; the only distinguishing thing about their cases is the fact that they rivet the valances from the outside, rather than having the rivets under the valances (e.g. Calzone, Star Case). They seem functionally identical to Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc.) A friend of mine described their prices as "atrocious"; I haven't seen any prices. ---------------------------------------- Star Case's ATA-grade cases seem to be in the same league as Anvil, Calzone, Caravan, Opti-Case, etc., but Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com) writes that "[In my humble opinion,] Star cases are the Rolls Royce of cases - they seem to have the best resistance to getting munged out of shape, their extruded mating parts seem to be a bit heavier than the rest, and they generally provide a really slick finish that's easy to wipe clean (and a bitch to stencil on, too)." In addition, their rack cases have mating covers -- not interchangeable ones. Here's the quote I received: Ensoniq EPS Keyboard inside shell size: 43 in. x 16 in. x 17 in. Style A Hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 poly (soft foam) blocking on one plane of case 7F 1 metal lid stay MS Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 832.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 696.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 668.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 534.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 404.00 27 space x 18" Deep F4 Rack Case 27 space Rack Style F4 Shock Mounted, Front & Rear Lids 18 inches rackable depth excluding lids 1 Front EIA tapped rack rails FT 1 3.3" h.d. swivel caster set (4 casters) 3C Rear Tapped Rack Rail add $162.00 Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 1667.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 1413.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 1360.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 1110.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) not recommended Roland Pad-80 Octapad II & Power Supply inside shell size: 24 in x 15 in. x 7 in. Style A hinge open 3 inch lid height A 1 inch thick 2 lb. polyester soft foam (charcoal) P1 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 2 in. 1 foam-filled 2 lb. polyester soft (charcoal) 8A with dimensions of 22 in. x 13 in. x 3 in. 1 metal lid stay MS 1 cavity cutout in foam CY Ultra Star (1/2 inch) 622.00 Super Star (1/2 inch) 524.00 ATA Star (3/8 inch) 504.00 ATA Star (1/4 inch) 408.00 Carry Star (1/8 inch) 315.00 Note that the quote for the rack case assumes 27 spaces -- I would be buying something more like 16 spaces. Still, these are clearly "Rolls Royce" prices. ---------------------------------------- Caravan cases look like they are are in the same ballpark as Anvil Calzone, Opti-Case, Star Case, etc. A picture of their extrusion edge would seem to indicate that their extrusion edges are better quality than Opti-Case's. Valances are single tongue-and-groove. No price quotes from them yet. ---------------------------------------- Opti-Case, Inc. has hardware that looks slightly cheesier than that of, for example, Caravan, but they still claim to be compliant with Airline Transportation Association specification 300, category 1, Mil Spec 810D. Their valances are double tongue-and-groove, which they claim to be good enough to privide a water- and air-tight seal. (I wonder.) The biggest casters they make are 3.5" 250-lb., which seems relatively small to me. Opti-Case, Inc. quoted the following price (which include a "Transoniq Hacker subscriber discount") for an Ensoniq EPS ATA case: Ensoniq EPS $249 ---------------------------------------- Keal Case claim to supply big name rock-and-roll acts like U2 and the Rolling Stones. Their rack cases have interchangeable lids. I have no literature from them, but I do have quotes for ATA cases. They are: 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/4" plywood 537.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/4" plywood 593.00 16-space shock-mount with locking casters, 1/2" plywood 703.00 16-space shock-mount with removable locking casters, 1/2" plywood 759.00 Ensoniq EPS case (no metal lid stays -- one ribbon lid stay instead) 298.00 Roland PAD-80 Octapad II case 195.00 ---------------------------------------- Here are some address which may help out people who are looking for flight cases: Anvil Cases Subsidiary of Zero Corporation 15650 Salt Lake Avenue City of Industry, CA 91745 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 1202 LaPurnte, CA 91749 TEL: (800) FLY-ANVIL TEL: (800) 359-2684 TEL: (818) 968-4100 FAX: (818) 968-1703 Calzone Case Company Sales & Manufacturing: 225 Black Rock Ave. Bridgeport, CT 06605 Manufacturing: Dallas, TX Phone: (203) 367-5766 Caravan Protective Cases 51 Hawthorne St. Elyria, Ohio 44035 (216) 366-9065 Hardigg Cases A Division of Hardigg Industries, Inc. P.O. Box 201 393 North Main Street South Deerfield, MA 01373 TEL: (413) 665-2163 TEL: (800) 843-2687 FAX: (413) 665-8061 Keal Case: (512) 244-9100 Opti-Case, Inc. Rt. 6, Box 235 Henderson, Texas 75652 TEL: (800) 637-6635 FAX: (903) 657-6030 Star Case Manufacturing Co., Inc. Corporate Headquarters 648 Superior Munster, IN 46321 TEL: (219) 922-4440 TEL: (800) 822-STAR (outside Indiana) TEL: (800) 782-CASE (inside Indiana) FAX: (219) 922-4442 other manufacturers I haven't checked out: API: (410) 555-1212 and ask _them_... SKB: (714) 637-1252 As always, advice and comments (e-mail encouraged) are appreciated. I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do. I was thinking seriously about Star Case, since they are located next to my hometown, but then I saw their quote... About that EPS fan thing, are the dimensions described above in the Star Case quote sufficient to accomodate the fan retrofits that users have done? From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Mon Apr 12 17:05:34 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 93 17:04 PDT Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Mon, 12 Apr 93 19:04:36 -0500 id AA03790 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Mon, 12 Apr 93 19:04:03 -0500 id AA07665 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 19:01:19 -0500 (CDT) From: MuffinHead Subject: Hard drives To: EPS List In-Reply-To: <9304122006.AA27654@korgrd.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm considering getting a hard drive for my 16+. I take it any SCSI drive will work? Once I get a drive installed and instruments on it, loading can be as simple as assigning a number to MIDI Program Change on my Octapad patches? I just wanna make sure I know what I'm getting into. Thankoo. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From NebrWesleyan.edu!rbu1730 Mon Apr 12 17:37:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.94.109.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 93 17:37 PDT Received: by NebrWesleyan.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12552; Mon, 12 Apr 93 19:36:24 CDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 93 19:36:24 CDT From: rbu1730@NebrWesleyan.edu (Robert B. Underwood) Message-Id: <9304130036.AA12552@NebrWesleyan.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: WANTED: EPS M I'm looking to buy an EPS M at a reasonable price, or trade for my EPS Classic with 4X expansion and SCSI port. Please send personal mail to: rbu1730@nebrwesleyan.edu Thank you. ROBERT UNDERWOOD From yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au!flite Tue Apr 13 23:29:34 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.194.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 13 Apr 93 23:28 PDT Received: by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (5.65a/1.34) id AA04231; Wed, 14 Apr 93 16:28:11 +1000 From: flite@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jon Walker) Message-Id: <9304140628.AA04231@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au> Subject: Midi dump To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 16:28:09 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 557 Hiya M8 E's This one is dedicated to all those midi heads whose beats just blow my brains! Yep..I'm new to midi.. I would like to know if its possible to store all that wavesample data in the ram of my PC so i can free up the EPS's memory for use on other stuff. And, if it is possible to do that , then what program is best for application on a PC. Can all those funky patches and layers be stored as well?? I'm running an eps 16+ and i have a lil 386dx40 with 4 megs o' ram. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks -flite From ebs330.eb.uah.edu!claassen Wed Apr 14 16:12:15 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.229.4.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 14 Apr 93 16:08 PDT Received: by ebs330.eb.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05425; Wed, 14 Apr 93 18:06:32 CDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 18:06:32 CDT From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9304142306.AA05425@ebs330.eb.uah.edu> To: Eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSm on 68040 I finally got my Centris and i'm very happy with it. (I won't mention that i cannot get my Studio3 to work properly, although Opcode assures me that it does work with the Centris line) I tried to get the heavy*.gkh samples onto an EPS classic formatted disk, but aDownloader froze up every time i inserted a disk. I tried it with the '040 cache on and off and nothing did it. I can always use the IIci for this, but it would be nice to do it at home, so i was wondering if anyone else has ahd experience... Also, considering the size of the heavy disks and my previous experience of getting large EPS16 disks on EPS classic formatted disks (i.e. it never quite worked), has anyone used them on a Classic? I'm most eager to get these sounds. Thanks, -AFC From yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au!flite Wed Apr 14 23:39:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.194.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 14 Apr 93 23:39 PDT Received: by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (5.65a/1.34) id AA18441; Thu, 15 Apr 93 16:38:57 +1000 From: flite@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jon Walker) Message-Id: <9304150638.AA18441@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au> Subject: WANTED: MEM EXP To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 16:38:55 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 273 Greetings my dearest friends, anyone want to sell a 100% RAM expander fer the eps 16+?? I'll offer $200 aussie for the moment, so keep it in mind. btw, I live in melb. Aus., so the closer the better! Thanks Jonny Walker Send any offers to, flite@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Thu Apr 15 00:32:50 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 00:32 PDT Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Thu, 15 Apr 93 02:32:28 -0500 id AA00454 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Thu, 15 Apr 93 02:32:00 -0500 id AA15397 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 02:22:58 -0500 (CDT) From: MuffinHead Subject: 16+ Upgrade To: EPS List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As I mentioned (I think), I want to start using a hard drive with my 16+. The main reason being I'm seriously thinking of replacing all four toms with some nice pads and the quickness of loading sounds without having to shove disks in every couple songs seems necessary. I've been persuaded into going with a SyQuest drive, probably 88M just for shits and giggles. I bought a 40M Quantum from someone yesterday that I wanted to try with the 16+, but suddenly remembered the lack of a SCSI port as I rolled up the back door of our truck. So I gave it to my girlfriend for her Mac (even though I could use a 3rd drive on mine:). What am I babbling about? Oh yeah. How much could I expect to pay for a SCSI thingamabob for my 16+? Also, is it absolutely necessary for a qualified Ensoniq dweeb to install it or can I do it myself? Thanks, Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From cs.utexas.edu!dogface!metatron!joe Thu Apr 15 04:02:47 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.83.139.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 04:02 PDT Received: from im4u.cs.utexas.edu by deepthought.cs.utexas.edu (5.64/1.2/relay) with SMTP id AA29301; Thu, 15 Apr 93 06:02:45 -0500 Received: from dogface by im4u.cs.utexas.edu (5.64/1.14/uucp) with UUCP id AA22129; Thu, 15 Apr 93 06:02:27 -0500 Received: by dogface.austin.tx.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 05:30 CDT Received: by metatron.UUCP (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 15 Apr 93 04:11:02 CST for eps@reed.edu To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS Classic 4x Expander? From: metatron!joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 04:09:39 CDT Organization: Metatron Press / Human Systems Performance Group, Austin, TX I'm contemplating getting a 4X memory expander for my EPS Classic -- I've had it with running out of instrument memory. Are these things still available? What's the going rate? From natinst.com!radian!jlange Thu Apr 15 06:51:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.164.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 06:50 PDT Received: from radian.UUCP by natinst.com with UUCP id AA19779 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 15 Apr 1993 08:50:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199304151350.AA19779@natinst.com> Received: by zippy.radian.com (16.8/16.2) id AA00307; Thu, 15 Apr 93 08:49:30 -0500 From: John Lange Subject: EPS16+ SCSI interface help To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 8:49:27 CDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] I'm looking for advice on the EPS16+ SCSI port. I'd **REALLY** like to get a hard disk connected to my synth. The Ensoniq SCSI interface is several hundred $, but there are some cheaper alternatives in various magazines like Keyboard and Transoniq Hacker. Are the cheaper versions as good as Ensoniq's? Are some brands better than others? Has anybody looked at the interface close enough to determine whether it might be feasible to build one from scratch? Also, does anyone have a technical service manual for the EPS16+ they would be willing to copy for me? Local music stores won't even let me LOOK at the technical service manual, much less buy one. Ensoniq is also not willing to sell technical manuals. It's not like I want to go build my own synthesizer, I just want to be able to do service to the synth I already bought. IMHO, this Ensoniq policy sucks. Anyway, all help will be appreciated. John Lange (jlange@zippy.radian.com) Radian Corp. (512)454-4797 Box 201088 Austin, TX 78720-1088 From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Apr 15 08:36:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 08:36 PDT Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA15416; Thu, 15 Apr 93 11:39:30 EDT Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2BCDABE8@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 15 Apr 93 11:39:36 EDT From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu To: future@nyx.cs.du.edu, eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS16+ SCSI interface help Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 11:38:00 EDT Message-Id: <2BCDABE8@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 "Also, does anyone have a technical service manual for the EPS16+ they would be willing to copy for me? Local music stores won't even let me LOOK at the technical service manual, much less buy one. Ensoniq is also not willing to sell technical manuals. It's not like I want to go build my own synthesizer, I just want to be able to do service to the synth I already bought. IMHO, this Ensoniq policy sucks. Anyway, all help will be appreciated." I've never understood the policy behind this stuff before...You may pay several THOUSANDS of dollars on a piece of equipment, and they won't provide you with the docs! The place I work just purchased a fax machine for close to $8000, and the company won't provide us with a copy of the "service switches", the software switches that turn some features on or off. Maybe the thing can launch nuclear missles or some such nonsense...maybe it's vital to national security...not! From undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjfennem Thu Apr 15 10:02:26 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.97.204.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 10:01 PDT Received: from mobius04.math.uwaterloo.ca by undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca id <247375-3>; Thu, 15 Apr 1993 13:01:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 12:53:51 -0400 From: "Ryan J. Fennema" Subject: Re: EPS16+ SCSI interface help To: EPSMailingList In-Reply-To: <199304151350.AA19779@natinst.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Apr 1993, John Lange wrote: > I'm looking for advice on the EPS16+ SCSI port. I'd **REALLY** like to > get a hard disk connected to my synth. The Ensoniq SCSI interface is > several hundred $, but there are some cheaper alternatives in various > magazines like Keyboard and Transoniq Hacker. Are the cheaper versions > as good as Ensoniq's? Are some brands better than others? Has anybody > looked at the interface close enough to determine whether it might be > feasible to build one from scratch? It would be real nice if the owners of the various brands (I know there's a few with Ensoniq, Maartist, PS, whomever ...) could post a blurb about their SCSI adapters. Maybe touching on: Price, performance, requirements, warranty, tech support, good/bad experiences, advantages/disadvantages over other brands, etc. Thanks, ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= __ ___ /__) /__/ /__/ /\ / Ryan J. Fennema rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca / \ __/ / / / \/ University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada From elan.rowan.edu!WISH4408 Thu Apr 15 10:34:06 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 150.250.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 10:33 PDT Received: by gboro.rowan.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA00457; Thu, 15 Apr 93 13:33:59 -0400 Received: From ELAN/WORKQUEUE by charon.rowan.edu via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.930415132841.448; 15 Apr 93 12:27:02 +500 Message-Id: To: EPS@reed.edu From: WISH4408@elan.rowan.edu Date: 15 Apr 93 13:28:40 EST Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). UNSUBSCRIBE... From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Thu Apr 15 12:43:32 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 93 12:42 PDT Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Thu, 15 Apr 93 14:42:06 -0500 id AA02270 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Thu, 15 Apr 93 14:41:22 -0500 id AA17505 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 14:37:03 -0500 (CDT) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: EPS16+ SCSI interface help To: EPS List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Omigosh. I didn't even know SCSI controllers were made by other companies for the 16+. In that case, I too would *really* enjoy seeing some facts and figures about different brands. IMO, any piece of hardware that uses a floppy disk should automatically include a SCSI port. Well, most things like a keyboard. I wouldn't see much use for a hard drive on a big line printer that didn't spool internally. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Fri Apr 16 10:09:41 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 16 Apr 93 10:08 PDT Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07553; Fri, 16 Apr 93 13:08:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 13:08:14 -0400 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9304161708.AA07553@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu, future@nyx.cs.du.edu, gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Subject: Re: EPS16+ SCSI interface help Cc: lloyd@elm.circa.ufl.edu, mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu About the service manual: Instances like these make me have no concern for the copyrights in this area. If anyone gets ahold of one, please let me know too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mark Schneider University of Florida | | mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu 904-335-6511 (voice) | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From msc.edu!alan Sat Apr 17 00:33:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.66.12.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 17 Apr 93 00:32 PDT Received: from af.msc.edu by noc.msc.edu (5.65/MSC/v3.0.1(920324)) id AA06914; Sat, 17 Apr 93 02:32:08 -0500 Received: by af.msc.edu (5.57/MSC/v3.0(901107)) id AA00442; Sat, 17 Apr 93 02:32:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 93 02:32:07 -0500 From: alan@msc.edu Message-Id: <9304170732.AA00442@af.msc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR + PC = bad news! Here's some info to forestall potential grief for people who are thinking about hooking up their PC to their ASR-10 via SCSI. I tried hooking an ASR-10 with the SP-3 SCSI to my PC, figuring I could share the CD-ROM drive between the PC and the ASR. It turns out that the SP-3 emits a SCSI cmd during it's SCSI probe which tends to terminally confuse my Adaptec 1542 controller. The PC has to be power cycled for the Adaptec to regain it's senses. Adaptec is very scrupulous about following SCSI standards (their whole business is designing SCSI controllers), so I suspect the ASR is the culprit. Also, the ASR does not work with my Seagate 676MB drive even though the sheet says it works with ``Seagate mechanisms''. And it doesn't work with my PC Mag Editor's Choice Award Winning NEC 84 CD-ROM. In other words, the ASR-10 does not work with the most popular SCSI controller, most popular high end hard disk manufacturer, or the most popular high end CD-ROM in the PC marketplace. So be careful if you buy the ASR SCSI upgrade with the intention of hooking it to your PC! Hope this info helps someone. -Al From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Sun Apr 18 17:47:59 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 18 Apr 93 17:47 PDT Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GX62LRALCW90N153@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Sun, 18 Apr 1993 19:47:20 CDT Date: 18 Apr 1993 19:47:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Shamen "Move Any Mountain" Demo UPLOADED To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GX62LRAV0290N153@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have upload a this demo to eps.reed.edu. It consists of 3 800k .gkh image files. In the /incoming directory (currently) are these files: mam1.gkh mam2.gkh mam3.gkh mam.txt Enjoy! -james -djkc From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Sun Apr 18 23:02:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 18 Apr 93 23:02 PDT Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GX6DLT441C8WWOZR@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Mon, 19 Apr 1993 01:02:06 CDT Date: 19 Apr 1993 01:02:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Shamen's MAM Demo (note) To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GX6DLT441E8WWOZR@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I forgot! After loading this demo, please set the Global Bend Range to 3. I forgot to add this to the "mam.txt" file. It is now there in /incoming Thanks! And please e-mail me if any of you have problems with the demo. -james -djkc From ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com!TKUITTINEN Mon Apr 19 02:25:40 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.228.128.211 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 93 02:25 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 12:27:26 +0400 (EET-DST) From: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com (Timo Kuittinen p. +358 0 5104 4624) Message-Id: <930419122726.2040c043@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: Ensoniq soundcard To: eps@reed.edu X-Vmsmail-To: INET"eps@reed.edu" Hello! ====== Just saw a post in comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard about Ensoniq's new yet to be released soundcard. The guy who wrote it said that he had gotten his information straight from Ensoniq, so I guess it is pretty accurate. The actual extracted post will be in the following mail. t. Timo ======= From ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com!TKUITTINEN Mon Apr 19 02:27:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.228.128.211 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 93 02:27 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 12:29:21 +0400 (EET-DST) From: TKUITTINEN@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com (Timo Kuittinen p. +358 0 5104 4624) Message-Id: <930419122922.2040c043@ntcclu.ntc.nokia.com> Subject: Quote from soundcard post To: eps@reed.edu X-Vmsmail-To: INET"eps@reed.edu" Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard Subject: New ENSONIQ chipset/cards! Date: 17 Apr 1993 23:51:03 GMT Item #1... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Introducing THE New Standard In Multimedia Sound... ENSONIQ introduces a new standard that will do for multimedia sound what Super VGA has done for graphics... SOUNDSCAPE tm Soundscape is a no-compromises audio card that brings sound to life. You have to hear it to believe it... FM synthesis in today's PC sound boards is only slightly better than the "beeps and boops" it replaced. Technology of the past, FM is the low-res CGA of audio... In the music industry, wavetable synthesis has replaced FM. Now ENSONIQ, a leader in electronic music products, brings this new standard to multimedia. With CD-quality sound, wavetable synthesis is the Super VGA of audio... SOUNDSCAPE FEATURES Meets or exceeds Microsoft MPC audio requirements. Available as full board or as a chip set for OEMs. PCM Record and Playback * 16-bit DAC resolution * 8-, 12-, 16-bit linear, signed or unsigned, u-law compressed, mono or stereo hardware data formats * 127 stereo pan positions * 8- or 16-bit DMA transfer * 11.025, 22.05, and 44.1 kHz sampling rates * simultaneous record and playback Synthesizer * 32-voice wavetable synthesizer * 1 or 2 MB General MIDI ROM set * on-board, 8 MHz 68EC000 microprocessor Audio Mixing Section * master volume control plus CD, PCM, and synthesizer-level volume control * mixer control range: +0 to -38 dB standard, +30 to -90 dB optional * 85 dB approximate signal-to-noise ratio Additional Interfaces *Sound Blaster FM compatible (requires additional chip) *Sound Blaster PCM compatible *General MIDI compliant *MPU-401 compatible *MT-32 compatible *MIDI in, out, and through *IBM Joystick *Sony CD-ROM interface with optional SCSI Host PC Interface *selectable IRQ through software *support for 2 simultaneous IRQ's *selectable DMA channels through software *support for 2 simultaneous DMA channels 155 great vally parkway, po box 3023, malvern pa 19355-0723 phone (215) 647-3930 FAX (215) 647-8908 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Well, this card seems like the ARIA cards that are available. > It doesn't have any RAM on it like the GUS does but I have > another piece of info that I didn't feel typing up that says > that the Synthesizer can support up to 8 Mwords of ROM/SRAM/DRAM > so maybe an OEM version will have RAM on it. It also says the > synth can support an optional DSP Multiple Effects Processor. > It also says something about software emulation of the Yamaha > OPL-2 FM synthesizer, so maybe GUS will not be the only one with > a software Sound Blaster driver. I like the fact that this card/ > chipset can emulate MPU-401 MIDI, General MIDI, and the MT-32. > The guy I talked to at ENSONIQ said that boards made by OEMs will > say something that they are using the ENSONIQ Soundscape chipset and > will cost around $250 - $299. ENSONIQs own card will be available > through the same channels as other ENSONIQ products and thier card > is supposed to have their custom effects processor that is on the > new ASR-10 sampling keyboard and cost around $399. It still seems > like all the details are still sketchy so I guess we will have to > wait and see. I have a feeling though I am expecting to much from > this soundcard because ENSONIQ will mostlikly to be sure not to lose > any sells of thier sampling keyboards (ASR-10) to the soundcard/PC > combo. Oh well.....Enjoy. > > Dave- > st1qb@jetson.uh.edu