From ee.WPI.EDU!wrm Mon Mar 15 07:08:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.215.16.20 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 07:08 PST Received: by ee.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA10326; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:08:25 -0500 Received: by friskie.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA26780; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:08:22 -0500 Message-Id: <9303151508.AA26780@friskie.WPI.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sounds WANTED: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 10:08:21 -0500 From: wrm@ee.WPI.EDU X-Mts: smtp Hi folks, I'm looking for a couple of sounds (or pointers to them). Specifically: Wierd things; Farm Animals: a cow, a sheep, and a horse would be nice. Police Siren: Rising and falling. That British Hi-Low might be nice too. Normal things; Still searching for tamborine shakes and hits. (I feel compelled to mention that these will not ALL be in the same song!) Bill From OSWEGO.ARPC.ALCAN.CA!POTTER%TECHDB Mon Mar 15 10:01:23 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.62 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 10:00 PST Received: from 142.14.10.205 by scratchy.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.23) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 09:59 PST Received: from KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA by INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA (PMDF V4.2-6 #042B1) id <01GVU6G3XH2O000ZQ8@INTNET.INT.ALCAN.CA>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 12:57:37 EST Received: from DECNET-MAIL (MAIL$SERVER@MISX02) by KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA (PMDF #2762 ) id <01GVU5P7RTGG00062T@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 12:57:45 EST Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 12:57:45 -0500 (EST) From: TED POTTER Subject: Howdee To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVU5P7S33M00062T@KINGSTON.ARPC.ALCAN.CA> X-VMS-To: @EPS X-VMS-Cc: POTTER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Howdy! This is my first mailing to this here list, so hey-- be gentle. I've had my eps 16+ for over 2 years now, and it continues to unfold in grooviness (other than the occasional hangups, which appear to be random and possibly caused by my really hot heat sink (a fan does help for that, it seems)). I haven't upgraded my OS since then. It's version 1.1-- what would I get by upgrading? If it's indeed worth the upgrade, can I get it from anyone here? Or is it better to go through Ensoniq, for warranty reasons? All I have to say to Bill of "Sounds WANTED:" fame, is in regards to > (I feel compelled to mention that these [wacky collection of sounds] will > not ALL be in the same song!) is, too bad! Best Regards, ______________________________________________________________________ Theo Potter | "Great spirits have always encountered (315) 349-0171 | violent opposition from IN%"potter%Techdb@ | mediocre minds." Oswego.ARPC.Alcan.CA" | }:-{» | -- Albert Einstein ------------------------+---------------------------------------------- From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Mon Mar 15 12:59:31 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 12:59 PST Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Mon, 15 Mar 93 14:58:59 -0600 id AA00816 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Mon, 15 Mar 93 14:57:59 -0600 id AA12923 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 14:46:23 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: Sounds WANTED: To: ensoniq-list In-Reply-To: <9303151508.AA26780@friskie.WPI.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Mar 1993 wrm@ee.WPI.EDU wrote: > Wierd things; > Farm Animals: a cow, a sheep, and a horse would be nice. > Police Siren: Rising and falling. That British Hi-Low might > be nice too. > > Normal things; > Still searching for tamborine shakes and hits. I have a disk of farm animals that I sampled from a sound FX CD. The disk includes: Rover (a dog of course) Cricket Rooster Elephant Seal Coyote Frog Killer Bees If you like, I could make a disk for you with the three you mentioned. I also have a tambourine that is made up of 3 samples that are velocity layered. The soft is a sample of me shaking my wooden tambourine. Medium is me hitting the same tambourine. Loudest is the medium combined with another brighter tambourine. The only hard part about making a good tambourine is that a shaken sound has sounds that come before the beat, so the sample needs to be triggered before the actual beat. Tempo also has an influence on that. My sample doesn't include the pre-shake sound. Let me know if you'd like me to make the disk. If so, tell me what kind of cow you're looking for; just a regular "moo" or a more excited "mmmooOOO". Same with the horse; whinney or snort or gallop. I could include all three. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu!bsanders Mon Mar 15 14:45:30 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.174.5.58 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 14:45 PST Received: from mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu by garcon.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04145 (5.67a8+/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 16:45:08 -0600 Received: by mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA01184; Mon, 15 Mar 93 16:45:29 CST Date: Mon, 15 Mar 93 16:45:29 CST From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) Message-Id: <9303152245.AA01184@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Help with 16+ Int. HD Info If there is an EPS 16+ guru out there who knows a lot (presumably from experience) about putting an internal hard drive in a 16+, please point me to the source of your information. I'm handy with a soldering iron, and I do have much knowledge about digital circuitry; but I don't want to dive into this without a clear plan. I seem to remember seeing pictures about such an installation somewhere; maybe in Transoniq Hacker? Anyway, thanks in advance. BTW: Please reply privately to bsanders@ncsa.uiuc.edu so as to keep the eps-list mail traffic down. Thanks Again, Barry Sanders bsanders@ncsa.uiuc.edu bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Mon Mar 15 15:10:37 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 15:10 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GVUF6KX2KA90SUQW@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 17:09:45 CST Date: 15 Mar 1993 17:09:45 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Re: Sounds WANTED: To: smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu, eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVUF6KX2KC90SUQW@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu" X-VMS-Cc: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: 15-MAR-1993 17:08:47 >> Normal things; >> Still searching for tamborine shakes and hits. > >I also have a tambourine that is made up of 3 samples that are velocity >layered. The soft is a sample of me shaking my wooden tambourine. Medium >is me hitting the same tambourine. Loudest is the medium combined with >another brighter tambourine. The only hard part about making a good >tambourine is that a shaken sound has sounds that come before the beat, so >the sample needs to be triggered before the actual beat. Tempo also has an >influence on that. My sample doesn't include the pre-shake sound. > Let me know if you'd like me to make the disk. If so, tell me what kind > >Muff >___________________________________________________________________________ >smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com Please DO! Upload some tamborines! I'd love to use these rather than open hihats in some tracks. Are there any other tamborines on the EPS FTP site?? -james -djkc From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Mon Mar 15 15:19:57 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 15:19 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GVUFKKV21S90SUQW@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 17:18:59 CST Date: 15 Mar 1993 17:18:59 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Tamborine samples To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVUFKKW4MQ90SUQW@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: 15-MAR-1993 17:08:47 >> Normal things; >> Still searching for tamborine shakes and hits. > >I also have a tambourine that is made up of 3 samples that are velocity >layered. The soft is a sample of me shaking my wooden tambourine. Medium >is me hitting the same tambourine. Loudest is the medium combined with >another brighter tambourine. The only hard part about making a good >tambourine is that a shaken sound has sounds that come before the beat, so >the sample needs to be triggered before the actual beat. Tempo also has an >influence on that. My sample doesn't include the pre-shake sound. > Let me know if you'd like me to make the disk. If so, tell me what kind > >Muff >___________________________________________________________________________ >smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com Please DO! Upload some tamborines! I'd love to use these rather than open hihats in some tracks. Are there any other tamborines on the EPS FTP site?? -james -djkc From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Mon Mar 15 21:17:24 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 21:16 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GVURMLQBQ890T7RD@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 23:16:42 CST Date: 15 Mar 1993 23:16:42 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Assign effects to song tracks To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVURMLQBQA90T7RD@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ok, I know about effects mixing, and output (edit/track) busses, but this only allows for one to have _variations_ on one effect. Let me start with an example of what I'm trying to do: Say track 1 has a drum sequence, and track 2 has a synth melody. Now, what I want to do is assign the effect EQ-LFO to the drum, and DUAL DELAYS to the synth, so I copy (cmd/effects) these effects to each instrument, respectively. But, when I play the song, the only effect that is active is the one currently selected... the ASR doesn't split the effects up for each instrument. however, you can split effect _variations_. Copy the _same_ effect to both instruments, then edit the effect parameters, making different sounds.. then, assign the output for each track to a bus with that effect variation. This is what I want to do, but with totally _different_ effects, How do I do this? Thanks, -james ----- Another query: I've learned mixdown in song-mode, but is this the only place mixdown can be done? Can I mixdown just a sequence alone? Thanks again. From spectre.uunet.ca!web.apc.org!becker!bdb Mon Mar 15 22:46:35 1993 Return-Path: <@spectre.uunet.ca:becker!bdb@web.apc.org> Received: from 192.48.96.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 93 22:46 PST Received: from spectre.uunet.ca by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA01162; Tue, 16 Mar 93 01:46:18 -0500 Received: from web.apc.org ([142.77.253.8]) by spectre.uunet.ca with SMTP id <3059>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 01:46:13 -0500 Received: from becker by web.apc.org with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0nYVOh-0002GRC; Tue, 16 Mar 93 06:45 GMT Received: by becker.GTS.ORG (smail2.5/bdb-15Aug90) id AA09880; Tue, 16 Mar 93 01:37:51 EST (-0500) Newsgroups: mlin.eps Path: bdb From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker) Subject: Re: Multiple SCSIs-While we're on the subject of HD's. Message-Id: <1993Mar16.063525.9814@becker.GTS.ORG> Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario Illegal-Object: Syntax error in References: value found on spectre.uunet.ca: References: <01:32:18> <199303142314.AA26881@aerospace.aero.org> ^-illegal end of message identification Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 01:35:25 -0500 To: eps@reed.edu In article <199303142314.AA26881@aerospace.aero.org> obrien@aero.org (Mike O'Brien) writes: | I've got a really slow disk, and was seeing up to 17-second load |times for things like Piano-88. Then I finally got a copy of the OS with |Interleave (which, apparently, the EPS-M always had but which took its |own sweet time getting into the EPS Classic OS), and when I put a 3:1 |interleave factor on my (CMS-80, Seagate mechanism) drive, loading that |sucker dropped down to about 2.5 seconds. It was really dramatic - you |could see this absolute knee in the load time; I took the time to reformat |that puppy using everything from 1:1 interleave (the default) up to 8 or |9 to 1, and the response time (like the EPS :-) was Classic. Long long |time at 1:1 and 2:1, drop to a minimum at 3:1 (from 17 sec. down to 2.5), |then crawl upwards slowly with the increased interleave factor. Hoo-raw. I'm not sure interleave matters at all for disk drives with reasonable internal cache memory (like Quantum PRO series for example) - the drive should look after the seeks and the system look after the I/O (so if the memory is in the drive so much simpler for both)... What's the best way to get the correct ROM's for the EPS classic (i.e., like the ones in the -M version)? -- ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario a /i/ Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org Uucp: ...!web!becker!bdb `\o\-e "Technology is a way of arranging the world so that _< /_ we do not have to experience it" -- Martin Heideger From vines.urc.kun.nl!E.Roos%buro%KUN Tue Mar 16 00:01:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.174.82.170 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 00:01 PST Message-Id: Received: by vines.urc.kun.nl with VINES ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 09:02:25 MET Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:55:54 MET From: E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl Subject: To: eps@reed.edu Cc: Bcc: Hi! Can anyone help me with an EPS 16+ problem? The question is this. I try to make a mixdown in the song-mode, but it doesn't seem to work. I adjust the volumes of the instruments at the beginning of the song but the instruments turn back to their original volume when the next sequence starts to play. Thanks! Eric From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Tue Mar 16 00:47:25 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 00:47 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GVUZBJ7LX090S53R@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 02:46:52 CST Date: 16 Mar 1993 02:46:52 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Re: mixdown To: E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl, eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVUZBJ7LX290S53R@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl" X-VMS-Cc: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: 16-MAR-1993 02:44:40 >From: IN%"E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl" 16-MAR-1993 02:13:20.04 > >Hi! Can anyone help me with an EPS 16+ problem? The question is this. I >try to make a mixdown in the song-mode, but it doesn't seem to work. I adjust >the volumes of the instruments at the beginning of the song but the instruments turn back to their original volume when the next sequence starts to play. > >Thanks! >Eric Make sure you have record mode set to ADD, _not_ replace. (edit/sequence) Make sure you are over-dubbing on the **SONG** tracks (edit/sequence will show which one), and while you're recording (hit record-play), any changes in the mix, pan, etc., should be recorded. Good luck. -james From silver.lcs.mit.edu!jna Tue Mar 16 03:17:08 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 18.52.0.230 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 03:16 PST Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA07820; Tue, 16 Mar 93 06:16:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 06:16:42 -0500 From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (when the spell is broken) Message-Id: <9303161116.AA07820@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Bass drum... I recently bought a TR-909.. Maybe I ought to sample it, and ship it up?? I don't think I'm going to get any better samples then what's already on the site; You can't duplicate the fat warm analog sound on the eps.. -john From vicorp.com!judy Tue Mar 16 06:01:41 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.48.96.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 06:00 PST Received: from vicorp.com (via vicorp.vicorp.com) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA07505; Tue, 16 Mar 93 09:00:22 -0500 Received: from xeno.vicorp.com by vicorp.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13205; Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:47:53 EST Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:47:53 EST From: Judy Hawkins Message-Id: <9303161347.AA13205@vicorp.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Please unsubscribe me Thank you! judy@vicorp.com From ee.ubc.ca!bahramg Tue Mar 16 07:55:05 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 137.82.52.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 07:54 PST Received: from augustus.ee.ubc.ca by ee.ubc.ca (5.61/1.34) id AA02134; Tue, 16 Mar 93 07:53:57 -0800 Received: by augustus.ee.ubc.ca (5.61/SMI-4.0) id AA25126; Tue, 16 Mar 93 07:13:09 -0800 From: bahramg@ee.ubc.ca Message-Id: <9303161513.AA25126@augustus.ee.ubc.ca> Subject: remove my name To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 7:13:08 PST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] please remove my name from mailing list. bahram bahramg@ee.ubc.ca From hub.ucsb.edu!cosmo%cs Tue Mar 16 08:47:37 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:47 PST Received: from engineering.ucsb.edu by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA01836 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:47:02 PST for eps@reed.edu Received: from calvin (calvin.cs) by engineering.ucsb.edu (4.1/UCSBGENERIC.4) id AA16060 to eps@reed.edu; Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:46:58 PST Received: by calvin (5.0/UCSB-v2-cs) id AA07089; Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:44:41 PST Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 08:44:41 PST From: cosmo%cs@hub.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin) Message-Id: <9303161644.AA07089@calvin> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Dumb ftp question Content-Length: 250 I'm sure this one's been asked before, but I've been out of it for a while. When I ftp'd to eps.reed.edu, I tried to login as anonymous and got this message: 550 Can't set guest privileges. Login failed. Can someone help me out? Thanks, - Boris From horde Tue Mar 16 09:27:48 1993 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 09:27 PST Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 09:25:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: Ftp server back up... To: eps@reed.edu, paradise@reed.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There was a network problem on Friday which confused many things on the Reed LAN. The ftp server (a NeXT machine) was one of them. We've fixed the problems we were having here and so the ftp server should be back up. -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) Unix Systems Programmer, Reed College From csd4.csd.uwm.edu!boottrax Tue Mar 16 09:53:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.89.7.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 09:53 PST Received: by csd4.csd.uwm.edu; id AA01397; Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:52:59 -0600 From: Boot Trax Message-Id: <9303161752.AA01397@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: cakewalk and EPS's To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:52:58 CST A question.. I would like to buy Cakewalk pro for Windows. Can I do a System Exclusive with it back and forth to my EPS? Will there be a weird problem. The manual said your buffer size is only limited by the ammount of memory you have. Also, where can I get Rom upgrades for my classic EPS and a 4 time memory expansion??? Can I install them myself? -- (( boottrax@csd4.csd.uwm.edu )) Basement Software Products )) )) 'Keeping my opinions to myself' (( (( Network Analysis - Systems Design - Software Engineering )) )) Make a system foolproof, and only a fool will want to use it (( From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Tue Mar 16 10:51:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 10:50 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GVVK858OO490SPXS@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 12:50:33 CST Date: 16 Mar 1993 12:50:33 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Re: Assign effects to song tracks To: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu, eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVVK858OO690SPXS@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu" X-VMS-Cc: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: 16-MAR-1993 12:42:32 >From: IN%"claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu" 16-MAR-1993 00:11:44.27 > >As much as i understand the effects processor of the ASR-10 (and i believe >it works the same in the EPS-16+) it can only process one effect algorithm >at a time, although you can change the settings for that effect on separate >instruments. If you want to use two different effects, you need another >effects processor. That's what is meant with "The ASR-10 basically has one >cahnnel of the DP/4". Only one effect, while the DP/4 can do up to four >effects at one time... The ASR-10 has an ESP chip. This may be a dumb question, but is DP/4 an effects box? Or synth, or chip/circuit? Thanks, your info really helps me understand. I've never delved into the world of effects processors. >I've been quite annoyed by this myself, but unfortunately, you pay for every >effect you use, or you have to record each track separately, in which case >you pay for the capability of recording multiple tracks. Bites... > >-AFC This is a good idea, actually... since I should have a 4- or 8-track anyway, doing tracks with different effects, seperately, would work fine...just as long as the tempo stays consistent -- but, I'm sure there's an easy way to make music creation & recording turn out perfect...it always seems somebody comes up with a new technique, and I (the *newbie*) and learning fast! Thanks a million, -james From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Mar 16 10:52:01 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 10:51 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <292752>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 13:51:25 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02017; Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:35:37 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303161635.AA02017@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: EPSDisk v1.21c uploaded to eps.reed.edu To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 11:35:36 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Okay, now that the archive site is accepting uploads again, version 1.21c has been uploaded to eps.reed.edu. There's a one-character bug fix (a typo I hadn't noticed until now), and the ability to continue past sector errors when copying volumes. -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From aero.org!obrien Tue Mar 16 11:20:44 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.221.192.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:20 PST Received: from antares.aero.org by aerospace.aero.org with SMTP (5.65c/6.0.GT) id AA00180 for eps@reed.edu; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 11:19:53 -0800 Posted-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:19:47 PST Message-Id: <199303161919.AA00180@aerospace.aero.org> Received: from anpiel.aero.org by antares.aero.org (4.1/AMS-1.0) id AA07202 for bdb@becker.gts.org; Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:19:52 PST To: bdb@becker.gts.org (Bruce Becker) Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Multiple SCSIs-While we're on the subject of HD's. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 16 Mar 93 01:35:25 EST." <1993Mar16.063525.9814@becker.GTS.ORG> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:19:47 PST From: Mike O'Brien > I'm not sure interleave matters at all for > disk drives with reasonable internal cache > memory (like Quantum PRO series for example) - > the drive should look after the seeks and > the system look after the I/O (so if the > memory is in the drive so much simpler for > both)... Perfectly true. The problem with my drive is not the seeking, it's the actual transfer rate of the drive: it can't keep up with rotations. Small-cheap-slow drives have this problem. Interleaving gets around it. > What's the best way to get the correct ROM's > for the EPS classic (i.e., like the ones in > the -M version)? Unless you have an 'in' at Ensoniq, the only way I know of is through a service center. Mike From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Mar 16 11:20:42 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:19 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <293117>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 14:19:32 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02084; Tue, 16 Mar 93 12:03:15 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303161703.AA02084@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: Status on EPS <--> GUS project To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List), ultrasound@dsd.es.com (Ultrasound List) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 12:03:13 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Well, I seem to be getting somewhere... I seem to have enough of an understanding of EPS instrument files to break them into header, layers, pitch tables, wave headers, wave data, FX header, and FX data (although being a CLassic owner, I have no clue what's up with the FX part). I have also successfully converted EPS wave data to GUS raw wave data. The EPS uses signed data in Motorola format, and the GUS uses unsigned (not signed... I forget who said so) data in Intel format. I have some info on the .PAT file format for the GUS, but haven't had time to tinker yet. What seems useful at this point? Should I work on a GUI for a sample editor? Conversions back and forth between EPS and GUS? -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu!MOREYLC Tue Mar 16 11:50:23 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.59.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:50 PST Received: from ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF #3899 ) id <01GVVMFYEQR48WW7U1@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 13:49:16 CST Date: 16 Mar 1993 13:49:16 -0600 (CST) From: MOREYLC@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu Subject: My .Z problem To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVVMFYEQR68WW7U1@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: MOREYLC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all-- I have a bit of a problem I'm looking for help with. I've been downloading samples from reed.edu, but note that most of them are compressed with the UNIX compression utility (these end in a .Z suffix). I'm on a VMS machine and the locals tell me there is no way I can uncompress them on it. Also, I do not have access to accounts on any UNIX machines. Is there any way that (1) I can uncompressed them online at Reed before downloading, or (2) uncompress them on my DOS-based PC from the .Z format?? Any help is appreciated on this. Thanks in advance......LCM From csd4.csd.uwm.edu!boottrax Tue Mar 16 11:53:56 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.89.7.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 11:53 PST Received: by csd4.csd.uwm.edu; id AA15838; Tue, 16 Mar 93 13:53:27 -0600 From: Boot Trax Message-Id: <9303161953.AA15838@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: AIFF To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 13:53:26 CST AIFF > What is this file type specification If they are samples, what utility translates them to EPS disks? -- (( boottrax@csd4.csd.uwm.edu )) Basement Software Products )) )) 'Keeping my opinions to myself' (( (( Network Analysis - Systems Design - Software Engineering )) )) Make a system foolproof, and only a fool will want to use it (( From ebs330.eb.uah.edu!claassen Tue Mar 16 12:45:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.229.4.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 12:45 PST Received: by ebs330.eb.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05950; Tue, 16 Mar 93 14:37:46 CST Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 14:37:46 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9303162037.AA05950@ebs330.eb.uah.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sample/instrument editors First off, are there any other editors with MIDI SCSI dump capability that understand the EPS format other than Passport's Alchemy for the Mac? And do these programs (if there is more than Alchemy) edit just the wave samples, or can they edit whole instruments. What i'm looking for is an editor for instruments for the Mac GUI, since I get rather frustrated, setting all the info for each wavsample, keyboard range, layering and so on, on the EPS keypad with a entry slider and a joke for a screen. If there isn't, maybe someone may need to write one. I shall volunteer, although with my limited experience in MIDI and music programming, this may become a rather long term project. Would MAX be suitable for this, or would C be the way to approach this? Hm, that's a whole lot of questions packed into a few lines... --- -AFC--(claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu) From ee.ubc.ca!bahramg Tue Mar 16 18:10:36 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 18:08 PST Received: by nexttues.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.11) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 18:08 PST Received: from salmon.ee.ubc.ca by ee.ubc.ca (5.61/1.34) id AA16810; Tue, 16 Mar 93 18:07:24 -0800 Received: by coho.ee.ubc.ca (5.61/SMI-4.0) id AA11999; Tue, 16 Mar 93 18:00:41 -0800 From: bahramg@ee.ubc.ca Message-Id: <9303170200.AA11999@coho.ee.ubc.ca> Subject: remove my name please To: eps@nexttues.reed.edu Date: Tue, 16 Mar 93 18:00:38 PST Cc: bahramg@ee.ubc.ca X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Thank you bahram bahramg@ee.ubc.ca From ecn.purdue.edu!del Tue Mar 16 22:36:12 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.175.45 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 22:35 PST Received: by soils.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA16560; Wed, 17 Mar 93 01:35:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 01:35:05 -0500 From: del@ecn.purdue.edu (de l`abattoir) Message-Id: <9303170635.AA16560@soils.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: output expander for 16+? would anyone on the list know of a source for an output expander for the EPS16+ keyboard? its a pain in the butt to have to record a track (or 2) at a time. thanks -david del@ecn.purdue.edu From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Mar 16 23:55:18 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 16 Mar 93 23:55 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <291865>; Wed, 17 Mar 1993 02:54:55 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02892; Wed, 17 Mar 93 00:39:02 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303170539.AA02892@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: RE: Status on EPS <--> GUS project (fwd) To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 00:39:01 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Forwarded message: >From jabussey@ualr.edu Tue Mar 16 16:01:51 1993 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 17:16:43 EST From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: RE: Status on EPS <--> GUS project Sender: jabussey@ualr.edu To: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu Message-Id: <009699A7.3AD31AA0.15176@ualr.edu> | From: IN%"mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu" 16-MAR-1993 13:49:49.79 | Subj: Status on EPS <--> GUS project | I have some info on the .PAT file format for the GUS, but haven't had time | to tinker yet. | | What seems useful at this point? Should I work on a GUI for a sample editor? | Conversions back and forth between EPS and GUS? Michael, I would like to see at least a DSP program that would let me do like time stretching on it. Also program it so that it uses DSP modules! Something so that anyone could write a bit of 'c' code and put it in the same directory as the EPS<->GUS program. The next thing (I think I mentioned this to you before) would be a neat little 8 track sequencer so that we could make musing using our eps samples on the GUS! Right now the GUS only samples in 8 bit! Later, Jacque (Please forward this to the list) | -- | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From psychok.dialix.oz.au!leigh Wed Mar 17 00:15:24 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 00:15 PST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA07271; Wed, 17 Mar 1993 18:14:47 +1000 (from leigh@psychok.dialix.oz.au) Received: from perth.dialix.oz.au (DIALix.oz.au) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au with SMTP (5.65c) id AA20578; Wed, 17 Mar 1993 16:13:37 +0800 Received: from psychok.dialix.oz.aux A by perth.dialix.oz.au with UUCP id AA26763 (5.67a/IDA-1.5); Wed, 17 Mar 1993 16:13:16 +0800 Received: by psychok.DIALix.oz.au (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.1) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 13:07 PST Message-Id: Subject: Re: Status on EPS <--> GUS project To: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 13:07:52 PST From: Leigh Smith Cc: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS mailing list) In-Reply-To: <9303161703.AA02084@sol4.cs.psu.edu>; from "Michael Chen" at Mar 16, 93 12:03 pm Organisation: Psychokiller, Qu'est-ce que c'est? X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Michael Chen Writes: > I have some info on the .PAT file format for the GUS, but haven't had time > to tinker yet. > > What seems useful at this point? Should I work on a GUI for a sample editor? > Conversions back and forth between EPS and GUS? Do you know about the sox program which can convert many sound file formats to others? I would suggest any conversions you do, should be part of sox, so that others who want to get EPS data into AIFF files, SampleVision, IRCAM files etc can do so too. Sox will convert raw sample files and file formats like AIFF have fields for loop positions etc. I would definitely suggest you look at sox before doing anything more, the world doesn't need another single file format to single file format converter. Other advantages are sox runs on many different platforms, it is very easy to add file formats (editing a generic convertor) and the .PAT file format (which I know nothing about) could then be supported by it for converting other file formats to/from. Just a suggestion... -- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= | Leigh Smith _--_|\ Email: leigh@psychok.DIALix.oz.au | | / \ Tel (H): +61-9-450-2014 | | Perth --> *_.--._/ Perth, Western Australia | | v | =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Mar 17 07:16:44 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 07:16 PST Received: from sol4 ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <292710>; Wed, 17 Mar 1993 10:15:53 -0500 Received: from uranus.cs.psu.edu.cs.psu.edu by sol4 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03563; Wed, 17 Mar 93 07:59:49 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303171259.AA03563@sol4> Subject: Re: EPS sample data and Sox To: leigh@psychok.DIALix.oz.au (Leigh Smith) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 07:59:44 -0500 Cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) In-Reply-To: ; from "Leigh Smith" at Mar 17, 93 1:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > Michael Chen Writes: > > I have some info on the .PAT file format for the GUS, but haven't had time > > to tinker yet. > > > > What seems useful at this point? Should I work on a GUI for a sample editor? > > Conversions back and forth between EPS and GUS? > Do you know about the sox program which can convert many sound file formats > to others? I would suggest any conversions you do, should be part of sox, so > that others who want to get EPS data into AIFF files, SampleVision, IRCAM > files etc can do so too. Sox will convert raw sample files and file formats > like AIFF have fields for loop positions etc. I would definitely suggest you > look at sox before doing anything more, the world doesn't need another single > file format to single file format converter. Other advantages are sox runs on > many different platforms, it is very easy to add file formats (editing a > generic convertor) and the .PAT file format (which I know nothing about) > could then be supported by it for converting other file formats to/from. > > Just a suggestion... > -- > =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= > | Leigh Smith _--_|\ Email: leigh@psychok.DIALix.oz.au | > | / \ Tel (H): +61-9-450-2014 | > | Perth --> *_.--._/ Perth, Western Australia | > | v | > =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= > Yeah, I know about Sox. The point is, I'm trying to write a utility for the PC that will let you do EPS instrument editing graphically. I know Sox can do what I need, but I need to do it within my program, and I don't want to shell out to run Sox each time. I don't think most file formats support layered instruments, a feature of both EPS and GUS instruments. I'm also a little hesitant to add yet another version/patchlevel to Sox... as it is now, I can't keep track of which is the latest. I already have a program to explode EPS instruments into individual files in a directory, which are in signed Morotola-ordering 16-bit words. I assume Sox can deal with these files directly, so patching Sox shouldn't be necessary... Other opinions/observations? -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From SanJose3.maxtor.com!Ali=Allen%ENG12%MCO Wed Mar 17 10:06:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.159.11.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 10:05 PST Received: from SanJose3.maxtor.com ([134.6.29.1]) by maxtor.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20795; Wed, 17 Mar 93 10:14:03 PST Message-Id: <9303171814.AA20795@maxtor.com> Received: by SanJose3.maxtor.com with VINES ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 10:07:38 PST Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 10:51:12 PST From: Ali=Allen%ENG12%MCO@SanJose3.maxtor.com Subject: Re: What to amplify VFX with To: eps@reed.edu Cc: >> I'm not sure interleave matters at all for >> disk drives with reasonable internal cache >> memory (like Quantum PRO series for example) - >> the drive should look after the seeks and >> the system look after the I/O (so if the >> memory is in the drive so much simpler for >> both)... > > Perfectly true. The problem with my drive is not the seeking, it's >the actual transfer rate of the drive: it can't keep up with rotations. >Small-cheap-slow drives have this problem. Interleaving gets around it. > >Mike Just a minor correction here. All drives can keep up with their own rotation, otherwise the drive wouldn't be a product. The reason one might use an interleave is to compensate for the slowness of the HOST'S transfer rate. If a disk drive does not have a "large" internal buffer and the host transfer rate is slow, the drive will take extra rotations because the host couldn't take the data from the drive fast enough. For example, let's say the drive has a 4kB data buffer and the EPS is asking for a 64kB transfer: if the EPS can't empty the drive's 4kB buffer at least as fast as the drive can fill it, the drive has to wait for space in the buffer before it can continue to fill it. Even a tiny wait for a disk drive is critical, if it has to wait at all, it's going to take at least an entire revolution of latency. To get around this, you may tell some drives to interleave the data. Interleaving data means to write one sector of data then skip X sectors before writing the next sequential sector. This way the disk only tries to fill the data buffer every X sector times instead of every single sector time, thus allowing the host ample time to transfer blocks from the drive during reads. Because of caching on both the disk and host ends these days, most disk drives no longer even bother to support interleave. Just FYI. -AliA Ali_Allen@Maxtor.com <--- must use this address to email me, reply will not work!!! From silver.lcs.mit.edu!kalin Wed Mar 17 10:40:42 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 18.52.0.230 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 10:39 PST Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA22645; Wed, 17 Mar 93 13:39:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 13:39:52 -0500 From: kalin@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Dan Kalin) Message-Id: <9303171839.AA22645@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: a request to use eps-request To all of you thinking about getting your name off this mailing list: When you decide it is time, please send the message to eps-request@reed.edu That is what it is for. In fact, just about every internet mailing list has a -request address for getting yourself on or off the list. This is a good idea becuase it is useless for everyone on the list to get several messages a day saying "please remove me". Thanks for listening! -Dan From seas.smu.edu!justin Wed Mar 17 20:14:04 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.119.3.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 20:13 PST Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.6) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 22:13 EST Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.9) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 22:13 CST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 22:13 CST From: justin@seas.smu.edu (Justin Anderson) To: eps@reed.edu, judy@vicorp.com Subject: Re: Please unsubscribe me Unsubscribe me too...thanx Justin@seas.smu.edu From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Thu Mar 18 04:47:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 04:47 PST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA11143; Thu, 18 Mar 1993 22:46:23 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: from perth.dialix.oz.au (DIALix.oz.au) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au with SMTP (5.65c) id AA23800; Thu, 18 Mar 1993 20:46:08 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.dialix.oz.aux A by perth.dialix.oz.au with UUCP id AA12638 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for reed.edu!eps); Thu, 18 Mar 1993 20:46:06 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA008ih; Sun, 1 Jan 78 00:49:08 PST Date: Sun, 1 Jan 78 00:49:08 PST Message-Id: <7801010849.AA008ig@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Loop magazine.... Hi 'Yall, Scott Fisher recently told me of a review of my software in 'Loop' magazine. (EPS-16+ Disk Wizard for the Atari ST) Apparently you can get a free copy of the magazine? Anybody know where I can get it? or who I should contact? Thanks in advance... -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (295 3359). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From ee.WPI.EDU!wrm Thu Mar 18 07:08:57 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.215.16.20 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 07:08 PST Received: by ee.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA22446; Thu, 18 Mar 1993 10:08:42 -0500 Received: by friskie.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02000; Thu, 18 Mar 1993 10:08:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 10:08:41 -0500 From: wrm@ee.WPI.EDU (William Michalson) Message-Id: <9303181508.AA02000@friskie.WPI.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: AIFF files on Archive I've just got 'round to looking at the AIFF files at reed. An earlier posting suggested using SoundHack to convert the AIFF file into a file that could be converted ... etc, as the procedure for getting from a PC to the EPS (ASR). I went to download SoundHack, and discovered that it is a 0 byte file. QUESTION: Is this the most appropriate procedure and, if so, where can I get a version of SoundHack that is >0 bytes??? Bill From arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de!tpki.toppoint.de!lxki!laux Thu Mar 18 07:21:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 07:21 PST Received: by nexttues.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.11) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 07:20 PST Received: by arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (smail3.1.18 + xalias); Thu, 18 Mar 93 16:19 CET Received: by tpki.toppoint.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from lxki with uucp id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 19:22 MEZ Received: by lxki.toppoint.de (/\==/\ Smail3.1.24.1 #24.1) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 93 19:12 GMT Message-Id: From: laux@lxki.toppoint.de (Thorsten Laux) Subject: please remove me from the mailing list To: eps@nexttues.reed.edu Date: Wed, 17 Mar 93 19:12:12 GMT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Thank you ! Thorsten Laux, Schuhmacherstr. 27/29, 2300 Kiel, FRG, Voice: +49 431 96334, email: laux@lxki.toppoint.de From cs.cornell.edu!chady Thu Mar 18 08:29:19 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 08:29 PST Received: by nexttues.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.11) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 08:29 PST Received: from CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU by thialfi.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99C) id AA10481; Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:28:57 -0500 Received: from ROCKY.CS.CORNELL.EDU by cloyd.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99D) id AA16602; Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:29:01 -0500 From: chady@cs.cornell.edu (Peter C. Chady) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:28:55 -0500 Message-Id: <9303181628.AA09100@rocky.cs.cornell.edu> Received: by rocky.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/N-0.13) id AA09100; Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:28:55 -0500 To: eps@nexttues.reed.edu Subject: MAC Help... Howdy. I have been attempting to download from eps.reed. The only 3.5 drives on our system are SUN and one single Mac. I have tried to use EPSm on the Mac, but I am not a Mac guru, and it's not working. So, #1) The file is .sea which I believe is self-extracting archive? I can't get it to extract itself.. what do I do? #2) There is a .sit file too, (which is stuffit?). However, when I "extract" it with stuffit, it does nothing. Am I missing something obvious here? Oh, and are there any utilities to get samples via the SUN drives? This would be even more preferable. Thanks. Pete-Ro of Evan's Jazz Opera (buy our album!) From cs.cornell.edu!chady Thu Mar 18 09:00:09 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.254.220 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 08:59 PST Received: from CLOYD.CS.CORNELL.EDU by thialfi.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99C) id AA10944; Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:59:47 -0500 Received: from ROCKY.CS.CORNELL.EDU by cloyd.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/I-1.99D) id AA17940; Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:59:50 -0500 From: chady@cs.cornell.edu (Peter C. Chady) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:59:44 -0500 Message-Id: <9303181659.AA09942@rocky.cs.cornell.edu> Received: by rocky.cs.cornell.edu (5.67/N-0.13) id AA09942; Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:59:44 -0500 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: MAC Help... Howdy. I have been attempting to download from eps.reed. The only 3.5 drives on our system are SUN and one single Mac. I have tried to use EPSm on the Mac, but I am not a Mac guru, and it's not working. So, #1) The file is .sea which I believe is self-extracting archive? I can't get it to extract itself.. what do I do? #2) There is a .sit file too, (which is stuffit?). However, when I "extract" it with stuffit, it does nothing. Am I missing something obvious here? Oh, and are there any utilities to get samples via the SUN drives? This would be even more preferable. Thanks. Pete-Ro of Evan's Jazz Opera (buy our album, we're Nirvana!) From huey.wst.com!jay Thu Mar 18 09:34:27 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 09:34 PST Received: by nexttues.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.11) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 09:34 PST Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:34:17 CST From: jay@huey.wst.com (Jay Prince) Received: by huey.wst.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Welcom Software Technology) id AA00764; Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:34:17 CST Message-Id: <9303181734.AA00764@huey.wst.com> To: chady@cs.cornell.edu Cc: eps@nexttues.reed.edu In-Reply-To: Peter C. Chady's message of Thu, 18 Mar 93 11:28:55 -0500 <9303181628.AA09100@rocky.cs.cornell.edu> Subject: MAC Help... Howdy. I have been attempting to download from eps.reed. The only 3.5 [problems...] Am I missing something obvious here? The obvious thing would be that you're downloading the files as ascii rather than binary. I've ftped a number of .SEA files without a problem in the past. Just before you issue the "Get xxx.SEA" command, type "Bin" and it should say "Type set to I".... or type set to binary. Jay From otago.ac.nz!ROSANNE Thu Mar 18 14:49:00 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 139.80.128.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 14:48 PST Received: from otago.ac.nz by otago.ac.nz (PMDF #12052) id <01GVZOLZP5JKA4LKWM@otago.ac.nz>; Fri, 19 Mar 1993 11:31 +1300 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 11:31 +1300 From: "Rosanne F. McKinstry, Analyst, C.S.C. D.P. Unit, Uni. of Otago" Subject: Please unsubscribe me. To: EPS@reed.edu Message-id: <01GVZOLZP5JKA4LKWM@otago.ac.nz> X-Envelope-to: EPS@reed.edu X-VMS-To: IN%"EPS@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ROSANNE Sory to post to everyone, but I can't remember the correct address for this (post-partem amnesia). So, please unsubscribe me, as I can't read 500 mail messages every few months anymore. See you later maybe, and thanks for all the fish. -Rosanne McKinstry, ex-Systems analyst/programmer, now Mum. -rosanne@otago.ac.nz From ebs330.eb.uah.edu!claassen Thu Mar 18 16:30:25 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.229.4.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 16:29 PST Received: by ebs330.eb.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13936; Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:21:42 CST Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:21:42 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9303190021.AA13936@ebs330.eb.uah.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Random problems with EPSm I've downloaded a number of .GKH files and tried to then get them onto a disk using EPSm and aDownloader. The disks are formatted for the EPS Classic and when i get an instrument onto one and it works on the EPS, the instrument sizes are always different. Then i get a lot of disks that don't want to fit on the dish, even though EPSm claims they will fit. Is this a problem with being formatted on the EPS instead of the EPS-16? The main problem tho, is that most of the instruments i get crash my EPS.. They start loading on the EPS, then stop loading and the keyboard freezes. This happens with EPS2 formats and GKH formats. And especially, if i try to remove an instrument from the disk on the mac to make it fit on a disk for the EPS, it will never make it across. Anyone else run into these problems? PS.. they are all downloaded at the same time and in binary, so that is not the problem... Thanks, -AFC From uu2.psi.com!onyx!rutile.telesciences.com!msavasti Thu Mar 18 17:07:54 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.145.228.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 17:07 PST Received: from onyx.UUCP by uu2.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA07566 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 19:57:14 -0500 Received: by onyx.telesciences.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.4) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:53 EST Received: by slate.telesciences.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:53 EST Received: by rutile.telesciences.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.4) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:53 EST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 18:53 EST From: msavasti@telesciences.com (Michael Savastio) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: CD ROMs and players ?? A long time ago, Terje Finstad wrote: >[...] Are third companys also making CDROMS for the EPS? In what >price-range are they? I didn't notice if anybody answered your question, so here's a belated answer. Greytsounds Sound Development has the following in Vol. 5 of their catalog: CD ROMS Available for Ensoniq EPS/EPS-16 Plus (over 300 Megabytes) Retail Price - $299.95 each Their address is: 8700 Reseda Blvd, Suite 101 Northridge, CA 91324 (818) 773-7327 Fax : (818) 773-9203 Orders: (800) 266-DISK It does sound appealing to have 300 megabytes of sounds for only $1 per meg. Totally unnecessary, but that never stopped me before. >Is there a list of SCSI CD players that will work with the EPS? Apple have >had a dramatic price drop on their CD-150 player. It's now almost free. >Will that work on my EPS?. Has anyone answered this question? -- The above opinions are mine alone and cannot be _____ held by anyone else without prior written consent. /o\ \________________________________________________________________ 8 8 ===o=xoo=x=o=xo=ox=== Michael Savastio (m.savastio@telesci.uucp) \_/___/ *******^*******^ 351 New Albany Road, Moorestown NJ 08057 From ebs330.eb.uah.edu!claassen Thu Mar 18 19:25:24 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.229.4.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 19:25 PST Received: by ebs330.eb.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14589; Thu, 18 Mar 93 21:17:18 CST Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 21:17:18 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9303190317.AA14589@ebs330.eb.uah.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: CD ROMs and players ?? I just looked this months edition of Keyboard magazine and several ads advertising CD-ROMs for EPS/ EPS-16/ ASR-10. The price range is $299-$349 per disk.. Since CD-ROM's can handle up to 650MB, i would hope that the more expensive brands have close to a full disk. About CD-ROM players, i would assume that any new SCSI player should do it... -AFC From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Thu Mar 18 19:36:51 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 19:36 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <03860-0@pat.uio.no>; Fri, 19 Mar 1993 04:36:33 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Fri, 19 Mar 1993 04:35:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 04:35:56 +0100 Message-Id: <9303190335.AAfidibus24769@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad X-Sender: tgf@fidibus Subject: Re: AIFF files on Archive- SoundHack William Michalson writes: >I've just got 'round to looking at the AIFF files at reed. An >earlier posting suggested using SoundHack to convert the AIFF >file into a file that could be converted ... etc, as the >procedure for getting from a PC to the EPS (ASR). > >I went to download SoundHack, and discovered that it is a 0 byte >file. > >QUESTION: Is this the most appropriate procedure and, if so, > where can I get a version of SoundHack that is > >0 bytes??? > SoundHack is for a Mac computer, It won't work on a PC. The file SoundHack0.6.sea in /pub/eps/utils is corrupted. I have uploaded SoundHack0.64.sea to /pub/eps/incoming. It requires a floating point processor. A file with extension .sea is a self extracting archive for Macs. How you download it all depends upon which program you use. It is a macbinary file. If you use a mac you normally set the transfer mode to 'macbinary' ( many/most ftp clients for the mac support this ). Nexttues does not understand that so it switches to 'binary mode' which is what you want it to do anyhow. Only the mac need to know it is macbinary. From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Thu Mar 18 20:58:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 18 Mar 93 20:58 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <05135-0@pat.uio.no>; Fri, 19 Mar 1993 05:56:06 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Fri, 19 Mar 1993 05:56:01 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 05:56:01 +0100 Message-Id: <9303190456.AAfidibus24885@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad X-Sender: tgf@fidibus Subject: Re: Random problems with EPSm Arne writes about all sorts of problems, sort of culiminated by: >The main problem tho, is that most of the instruments i get crash my EPS.. They >start loading on the EPS, then stop loading and the keyboard freezes. This This may of coarse not have anything to do with Arne's problems, I'm not at all suggesting so. It has to do with problems, so that's the connection to Arne's letter: It would probably help some eps-mac guys if someone picked up the source code to the unix compress/uncompress utility and compiled it for the mac with the options appropriate for decompressing sampler image files as the only option. The way it is with MacCompress, which is the only reasonably priced compress utility for the mac I know of, is unfortunate; The default mode is 'mac-compress' which we don't want. We want 'unix' decompress. If we choose unix decompress mode, then the default is to do the carriage return -linefeed adding craze and we don't want that. If we forget to actively take precautions to get these options right, then the result is a faulty image with faulty instruments/files. It may be too easy to forget. If one insert one extra byte in an instrument file the parameters may be totally wrong. The result is often that the eps freezes, as there is usually no good reason why it should check the consistency nor range of parameters. The way one have chosen to organize the uploaded files also does not make it very easy check the consistency or integrity of the images. The programs that handle these images do not check each individual file and they should not have to. Terje From ebs330.eb.uah.edu!claassen Fri Mar 19 09:02:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 146.229.4.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 19 Mar 93 09:01 PST Received: by ebs330.eb.uah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16281; Fri, 19 Mar 93 10:54:05 CST Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 10:54:05 CST From: claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Arne Claassen (ISE)) Message-Id: <9303191654.AA16281@ebs330.eb.uah.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Random problems with EPSm So, if MacCompress was initialized properly (i.e. no linefeeds, unix compress) then everything should work fine? Hm. I started MacCompress and did a whole batch of .GKH files, all with the same MacCompress options and some worked, some didn't. -AFC From mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu!bsanders Fri Mar 19 13:26:25 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.174.5.58 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 19 Mar 93 13:25 PST Received: from mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu by garcon.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA08934 (5.67a8+/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 19 Mar 1993 15:25:37 -0600 Received: by mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA00708; Fri, 19 Mar 93 15:25:53 CST Date: Fri, 19 Mar 93 15:25:53 CST From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) Message-Id: <9303192125.AA00708@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSm Problems Again EPS Types, My thanks to Terje Finstad for creating EPSm for all of us lazy Mac types, or for we who are unfortunate enough to only have a Mac available :) However.... I've been silent for several weeks on this, not wanting to rock the boat or create bad feelings, but I spend many hours with EPSm, my EPS 16+, a stack of properly formatted EPS disks, MacCompress, and several other utilities, and I got ZILCH! I tried every possible option, every possible FTP option, more than a dozen different disk images (which I have successfully downloaded using FTP and epswrite). Nothing. Nada. I read every read-me, all of the documentation, etc. I know what I'm doing. Still, nothing. When loaded into the EPS, the EPSm written disks show files present, but they always lockup the EPS upon loading. The drive light comes on, and then nothing. I have given up on EPSm for now. If any of you have helpful suggestions, I would welcome them. Please, Mr. Finstad, don't take this as a slam. I very much appreciate your magnanimous and altruistic efforts. I just can't get the software to work. Many Thanks In Advance, Barry Sanders (Lazy Non-Coder Type, EPS Programmer Type) From eecs.umich.edu!tazzzzz Sat Mar 20 09:41:41 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.212.99.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 20 Mar 93 09:41 PST Received: by quip.eecs.umich.edu id AA17416 ; Sat, 20 Mar 1993 12:41:00 -0500 From: Kevin Dangoor Message-Id: <199303201741.AA17416@quip.eecs.umich.edu> Subject: Waveboy Effects. To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 20 Mar 93 12:41:00 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi! I have an EPS-16+ (Turbo) and, believe it or not, I haven't bought the Waveboy effects yet. Are these worthwhile? I know one of the algorithms lets you use the EPS as an effects processor. Can you actually play while it's doing this? Thanks for any opinions you can give me... Kev -- Kevin (Tazzzzz) Dangoor \ Keeper of the Lynx Cheats and the Usenet University of Michigan / Lynx Guide. Send mail with "lynx:help" Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA \ in the subject for more information. internet: tazzzzz@eecs.umich.edu /----------------------------------------- From kowande.bu.oz.au!s057 Sun Mar 21 17:32:27 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.244.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 21 Mar 93 17:31 PST Received: from surf.sics.bu.oz.au by kirk.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA29614; Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:29:43 +1000 Return-Path: Received: from SAND.KOWANDE.BU.OZ.AU by surf.kowande.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA00592; Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:31:54 -1000 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 10:25:59 -1000 (GMT-10:00) From: Stephen Gregory Subject: Sample Cards For The PC To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering whether anyone out there knows how functional the high end cards are for the PC. I am thinking in particular of the turtle beach card. This has a built in Proteus and sample rates about the same as the ASR-10. Does anybody know whether you can sequence samples from a card in the same way as you could do it on a 'real sampler', i.e. build up a drum kit and sequence it in the normal way etc. I have recently sold my 16+ with the intention of getting an ASR-10, but cards seem to have the advantage of unlimited memory (whatever your computer has), although I haven't come across one with effects like the ASR-10 yet. Any comments appreciated. Regards, Steve Gregory From vines.urc.kun.nl!E.Roos%buro%KUN Mon Mar 22 00:52:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.174.82.170 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 00:51 PST Message-Id: Received: by vines.urc.kun.nl with VINES ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 09:53:21 MET Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 09:44:56 MET From: E.Roos%buro%KUN@vines.urc.kun.nl Subject: Band-in-a-box To: eps@reed.edu Cc: Bcc: Hi! I have an Eps 16+ and I want to use it with Band-in-a-box (ver. 5.0). Can anyone tell me 1. What are the right midi-settings on my instrument? 2. What drumset is the best I can use (largest amount of instuments or general-midi setting)? Thanks Eric From ee.WPI.EDU!wrm Mon Mar 22 06:34:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.215.16.20 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 06:34 PST Received: by ee.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09545; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 09:34:04 -0500 Received: by friskie.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07816; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 09:34:03 -0500 Message-Id: <9303221434.AA07816@friskie.WPI.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: AIFF files on Archive- SoundHack Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 09:34:03 -0500 From: wrm@ee.WPI.EDU X-Mts: smtp >>I've just got 'round to looking at the AIFF files at reed. An >>earlier posting suggested using SoundHack to convert the AIFF >>file into a file that could be converted ... etc, as the >>procedure for getting from a PC to the EPS (ASR). > >SoundHack is for a Mac computer, It won't do people with PC's any good. >The file SoundHack0.6.sea in /pub/eps/utils is corrupted. >I have uploaded SoundHack0.64.sea to /pub/eps/incoming. Ok... I see the error of my ways. Now, the the second part of my question gets engaged: How do I get these AIFF files onto my PC and then onto my ASR (preferably in such a way that the loop points are maintained) ? Bill From icogsci1.UCSD.EDU!cg18ffz Mon Mar 22 11:51:29 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.54.16.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:51 PST Received: from icogsci1.ucsd.edu by ucsd.edu; id AA15790 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:50:57 -0800 for eps@reed.edu Received: by icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDGENERIC.3) id AA21793 to eps@reed.edu; Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:50:56 PST From: cg18ffz@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU (Paul FAUsT!) Message-Id: <9303221950.AA21793@icogsci1.UCSD.EDU> Subject: multiple disk storage To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 11:50:55 PST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I was wondering if any of you EPS gurus could tell me why my 16+ might not allow me to use multiple disks for storing samples to floppy disk. It used to be that if I tried to save a sound and was too big, it'd ask "Use multiple disks?" Now, it says "Not Enough Disk Space". I'm trying to think when this started happening and it seems that it was when I moved up to the latest system disk version. Seems like a strange thing to take out of the code, though! Any ideas? I'd REALLY like to get the "multiple disk option" back P.S. I've been a "looker" on this mailing list for about a year (maybe less) and I think its great...its helped me immensely... thanx EPS godz! Will try to contribute more. -- +**********************************************************************+ = P A U L F A U s T ! | "We're ugly idiot babbleing beasts. = (pskibitz@cs70aa.ucsd.edu) | Some of us are sixty feet long ================================| with a brain the size of a walnut." = "Helping you to help me," | = so you can help myself." | -William S. Burroughs =**********************************************************************+ From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Mon Mar 22 15:14:18 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 15:13 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GW47DI5X1W935YEZ@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 17:13:08 CST Date: 22 Mar 1993 17:13:08 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: .INS files To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GW47DI5X1Y935YEZ@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Well, I used EPSDISK to extract an intrument from an ASR disk.. It did fine.. it wrote "keyboards.ins" to my harddrive. Now, what can I do with an .INS file?? Mike Chen?? Thanks, -james From sounds.wa.com!brianw Mon Mar 22 17:45:39 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 17:44 PST Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA06073 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Mon, 22 Mar 1993 17:44:48 -0800 Received: by sounds. (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA02836; Mon, 22 Mar 93 17:23:42 -0800 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 93 17:23:42 -0800 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9303230123.AA02836@sounds.> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: EPS Mailing List Subject: After Hours Troubleshooting Help Needed Reply-To: brianw@sounds.wa.com Well, its after 5:00 PM (8:00 PM EST), and I'm sure all the Ensoniq technical support folks have gone home for the day. However, I still have a problem with an out-of-warranty EPS Classic. If there is anyone reading this that can help out with suggestions, I would appreciate it. The symptom is that everything is functioning except that playing the keyboard (or sending MIDI to the inputs) will not make a sound. The sequencer will make sound if one is loaded from disk, and there is MIDI output if it is enabled (from the sequencer and/or playing the keyboard), but there is no way to play "live" music. I took a look at Dick Lord's "System Architecture" (from TH #39) schematic and noticed that the MIDI UART is connected to the Keyboard Processor as well as the 68000 data bus, so that probably explains why MIDI output works from the keys but not voice output. I tried unplugging the ribbon cable from the keyboard to the main board and then re-seating it in an attempt to fix any poor connections, but this did not help. It seems strange that the MIDI data is making its way through the ribbon cable, but not the instructions to cause a WaveSample to sound. Basically, I am hoping that someone has heard of (or experienced) this same problem and can tell me what to look for to fix it. I seem to remember a common problem with older EPS ribbon cables (and this is an old unit :-), but I am baffled as to why some of the MIDI data is unaffected. I booted OS 2.49 and 2.40, Created a New Instrument, and played several notes. My MIDI interface shows data (Note On, Aftertouch, Pitch Bend, Modulation, etc.) flowing out, but I could not get MIDI in to make any sound by looping the MIDI Out back to MIDI In. Summary: Keyboard to MIDI Out: working Keyboard to Instrument: not working Sequencer to MIDI Out: working Sequencer to Instruments: working MIDI In to Instruments: not working Help! Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Mar 22 20:02:01 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 20:01 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <293183>; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 23:01:06 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00859; Mon, 22 Mar 93 20:45:15 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303230145.AA00859@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: Re: .INS files To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 20:45:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <01GW47DI5X1Y935YEZ@Jetson.UH.EDU>; from "CRAZY DJ" at Mar 22, 93 6:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > Well, I used EPSDISK to extract an intrument from an ASR disk.. > > It did fine.. it wrote "keyboards.ins" to my harddrive. > > Now, what can I do with an .INS file?? Mike Chen?? > > Thanks, > > -james > Well... anything you can do with an .EFE file (it's actually the same format, with a more descriptive extension). I have a program to explode INS files into pitch tables, layers, headers, and data files, which I'd eventually like to get into a sample/instrument editor. Someone expressed interest in the exploder; I haven't coded the reconstructor yet. The code is a bit messy... would you like it to appear at the archive anyway? -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Mar 22 20:04:53 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 20:04 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <293183>; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 23:04:12 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00871; Mon, 22 Mar 93 20:48:16 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303230148.AA00871@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: INS files as transfer method? To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 20:48:15 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] What do you guys think of using the .INS (.EFE) files as another way of exchanging instruments at the archive? It might be better than sending whole disk images... Also, how many different platforms out there can actually deal with INS/EFE files? Would it help if I release the EPSDisk code? -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Mar 22 20:08:11 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 20:07 PST Received: from sol4.cs.psu.edu ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <293227>; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 23:07:29 -0500 Received: by sol4.cs.psu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00900; Mon, 22 Mar 93 20:51:43 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303230151.AA00900@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Subject: Installing HD drives on EPS or 16+? To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 20:51:42 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Is there any problem with installing HD drives on our EPS Classic or 16+ boards? Fred? Bill? -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From elm.circa.ufl.edu!mas Mon Mar 22 21:17:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.8.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 21:17 PST Received: by elm.circa.ufl.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11199; Tue, 23 Mar 93 00:17:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 00:17:01 -0500 From: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Mark Schneider) Message-Id: <9303230517.AA11199@elm.circa.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS disk block sizes Cc: mas@elm.circa.ufl.edu To Michael Chen and others proficient in the operating system: Just as a thought, for people who have only 1 or 2 instruments taking up a whole disk, would it help, as far as loading time goes, to set the disk sector size to 5 times what it is now (I'm on a 16+) so that there are only 2 sectors per track (or even resort to 1 per track)? I noticed how full featured EPSDisk is but didn't see that option. Would it be a worthwhile feature? From moria.cs.su.OZ.AU!paul Mon Mar 22 21:25:23 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.8.208 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 22 Mar 93 21:25 PST Message-Id: Received: from moria.cs.su.OZ.AU (for reed.edu) with MHSnet; Tue, 23 Mar 1993 15:24:55 +1000 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 14:33:27 +1000 From: paul@moria.cs.su.oz.au (Paul Craig Tyler) Subject: For Australian readers only. To: eps@reed.edu Ok, anyone can read it, but this is only of use to Australians :-). The other day I read about a facility on the host archie.au that allows you to cache ftps from other anonymous sites. The priciple is this, while you ftp something from the other site, archie.au keeps a copy of the file for a while which is available for others to ftp. The advantage is that we won't be using international link multiple times to fetch the same file. The disadvantage is it takes a little longer on an initial fetch. The system is currently under testing and may go away at any time but I'd suggest all who can, try to use it. I would encourage all Australians to use this while it remains available. It will save you time in general and save network resources. "How do I use it?" you may ask. Well here are some simple commands , I will send more explicit information on request. (If any of you non-Australians are still reading this, DO NOT do this. Doing so would earn you the label network vandal :-).) - Firstly, ftp to archie.au and login as anonymous. - After logging on, cd /alex/edu/reed/eps - You are now in a equivalent position as to having done ftp eps.reed.edu - Continue the ftp as though you were on ftp eps.reed.edu Warnings: Don't do individual cd's through the alex tree until in /alex/edu/reed/eps, it will take a long time. For those of you with the command netfetch, commands such as "netfetch archie.au alex/edu/reed/eps/pub/eps/samples/flute2eve.gkh.Z" also work. For those using ftpmail, unfortunately I don't know much about this. I believe it should work by using ftpmail to ftp to archie.au but it is only worth doing if you are using an ftpmail site in Australia. (I believe the University of Wollongong has one but I don't know anything about it.) If your using ftp mail, give it a go using archie.au and let me know. If you would like more information, either look in the newgroup aus.aarnet or mail me and I'll send you some. Paul Tyler P.S. Alex is in beta testing so if you have troubles, go back to your old methods. From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Tue Mar 23 06:32:07 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 23 Mar 93 06:31 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA19796; Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:28:44 EST Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Microsoft Mail id <2BAF48E3@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:29:07 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu To: brianw@sounds.wa.com, eps@reed.edu Subject: After Hours Troubleshooting Help Needed Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:28:00 EST Message-Id: <2BAF48E3@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> Encoding: 49 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 "...in to make any sound by looping the MIDI Out back to MIDI In." NOTE: I'm not sure if your loop will work on the EPS...I personally have never tried it, but I think I MAY have done this by accident once. Before we try it that way, try this: 1. Connect a MIDI cable to a tone module or sequencer or SOMETHING that can tell you either audibly or visually that it is receiving note on's. 2. Be sure that the EPS is set to Multi-mode (on the EDIT-MIDI page). 3. Set the base channel to 1. 4. Set the MIDI to mode to "Send to Insturment Channel". 5. Create an empty insturment on track one. 6. Hit Edit instrument while on track one. Page to the Right until you get to the MIDI channel for that insturment. Set it to "3". 7. Make sure that it is set to "Send Keys to: BOTH" _NOT_ Local (Also on Edit Insturment Page). 9. Be sure that your receiving module is set to channel 3 10. Hit Edit Sequence and try playing some keys...you should hear or see the insturment on channel 3 playing. If the above doesn't work, try doing a loopback...attach your MIDI OUT to your MIDI IN. 1. Load a sample insturment into track 3. Hit Edit Sequence and try playing some keys...you should hear the insturment on channel 3 playing. If not, try changing the MIDI channel of your blank insturment to 4 and repete the process. Then try 2, if 4 doesn't work. If all of this fails, I unfortunatly can't help you. Good luck! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= j a c k i n , b a b y: g r e g o r y n a t i o n o f t e f l o n s o u l s =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= my opinions do not neccesarily reflect the views of my employer From psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!sol4.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Mar 23 09:05:21 1993 Return-Path: <@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu:mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu> Received: from 130.203.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:05 PST Received: from sol4 ([130.203.2.12]) by psuvax1.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <293106>; Tue, 23 Mar 1993 12:04:58 -0500 Received: from uranus.cs.psu.edu.cs.psu.edu by sol4 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00674; Tue, 23 Mar 93 09:49:05 EST From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Message-Id: <9303231449.AA00674@sol4> Subject: Re: your mail To: eps@reed.edu (EPS List) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 12:04:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9303231524.AA24399@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM>; from "Fred Shaul" at Mar 23, 93 10:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > Mike - > > > Is there any problem with installing HD drives on our EPS Classic or 16+ > > boards? Fred? Bill? > > I assume you are talking about inside the case of an EPS and tapping off > the existing EPS power supply. > > 1) ENSONIQ customer service is the only avenue by which an official > answer to this question can be given ... > 2) Power supply insufficient. > 3) Where is there space inside? > > An external SyQuest removable media SCSI drive is probably the most popular > ENSONIQ friendly SCSI drive. They are not terrible expensive, they're > wonderfully flexible, and they don't tax the power supply/expansion > capabilities of the host. > > - Fred > > fred@ensoniq.com > fredness@cup.portal.com > fredness@bix.com Oh, I agree (although MO drives are looking better...) with that. What I meant, though was if it was possible to install high-density 3.5" floppy drives on our keyboards. I know the OS won't know how to format them, but hey, I have EPSDisk for that. I just figure that whoever coded the EDOS low-level I/O left space for >10 sectors (you'd have to, for hard drive support). If we're lucky, it'll just be plug n play. Any ideas here? If I wouldn't have to tear apart my PC, I'd just do it and see what happened... -- Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | From sounds.wa.com!brianw Tue Mar 23 12:23:28 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:21 PST Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA29976 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Tue, 23 Mar 1993 12:14:43 -0800 Received: by sounds. (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA06685; Tue, 23 Mar 93 11:53:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 11:53:55 -0800 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9303231953.AA06685@sounds.> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: Florian Richter Subject: Solution and related bug (Re: After Hours Troubleshooting Help Needed) Cc: EPS Mailing List Reply-To: brianw@sounds.wa.com History: I had asked for help from the mailing list because I thought MIDI In and keyboard input were not working on an EPS Classic. I was just about to post an addendum stating that I figured out that MIDI In was working after all, but the keyboard still wasn't, when Florian jogged my memory (see forwarded message). Thanks to Florian, everything is now working. I had the damper pedal in the right jack, but it was set to No Volume. I am actually borrowing this EPS in exchange for my own since mine has a SCSI drive, and my friend needs that. In the Global Parameters, which are saved on my hard disk with the OS, I have Edit*System Pedal=Mod MIDI=4 instead of Volume, so that it usually doesn't matter where the pedal is with my setup. I can't believe that I didn't remember to check this now that I have to boot from floppy. P.S. There is a minor bug when changing the Pedal function. I found this out when I first got my pedal, which is why I can't believe that I forgot about it in this case. In the Edit*System page, if you switch to MIDI Mod from MIDI Volume while the pedal is plugged in and turned down, then the volume will stay down even if you unplug the pedal. This can be very confusing. The solution is to switch back to MIDI Volume and then either turn the volume up all the way or unplug the pedal (the latter works best). Then, switch to MIDI Mod before moving the pedal or plugging it back in. At this point, volume will be full (the default when there is no pedal) and the pedal will generate MIDI controller values when moved. Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA Begin forwarded message: From: Florian Richter Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1993 19:38:56 +0100 (MET) > Help! I had a similar problem when connecting my damper pedal to the wrong footswitch jack. 1% chance that this helps. Good luck! Florian -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Florian Richter TU Berlin - Germany | | UUCP:klon@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de ..!{unido,pyramid}!tub!opal!klon | | BITNET: klon%tubopal@DB0TUI11.BITNET | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From sounds.wa.com!brianw Tue Mar 23 12:46:12 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:45 PST Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA00893 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Tue, 23 Mar 1993 12:45:31 -0800 Received: by sounds. (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA06775; Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:37:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:37:04 -0800 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9303232037.AA06775@sounds.> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: EPS Mailing List Subject: Hard disk for EPS... Reply-To: brianw@sounds.wa.com Sorry for the delay - have you figured out a solution, Johnny? | From: Mike O'Brien | > From: Johnny Billquist | > What bothers me is that I get different behaviour on different | > drives. | | Probably not too surprising...whatever's wrong, the | handshaking is failing at different points. It's possible | that your problem is in the cable. ... you're probably better | off using an UNshielded ribbon cable, ... (I assume the drive end | does have a terminator). I couldn't get things to work worth | squat using a shielded cable until I put a SCSI terminator on the | EPS end. ... Ribbon cable (keep it short!) works fine for me, | terminator or no. ... But if you keep the bus short and don't | use shielded cable you can probably get away with a single | terminator at the disk drive end of the bus. Mike's advice sounds like it meshes with the SCSI manual from Ensoniq, and I have no reason to dispute it. However, I would like to add my experience as an additional data point. Sometimes, shielded cables WILL work fine. By shielded cables, I mean cables which have a cover, and which are obviously not ribbon cables, but I haven't checked every working cable to see it the shield is actually connected electrically. My Quantum ProDrive 105S came from Warehouse 54 with a 1 foot cable. Right out of the box, I was able to format the drive from the EPS and then boot the EPS, with the minor exception that I could not get it to work when set to SCSI ID 0, but the very next ID I tried worked: SCSI ID 1. I don't know if there is any significance to "0" electrically. Perhaps the switch on the hard drive case was wired wrong (since the case came from Warehouse 54 and NOT from Quantum). Anyway, I was digressing. I soon needed a cable which was longer than 1 foot, so I purchased an inexpensive 6 foot cable which was made in Taiwan. This cable did not work, and the symptoms were very similar to Johnny Billquist's. Many short disk accesses would work, like directory read/writes. But as soon as I tried booting or reading a large file, the Quantum would hang with its red access light constantly lit. The solution was to get a refund for the cheap 6 foot cable and have Redmond Cable build a custom SCSI cable. Even thought the 6 foot cable did not work, I was able to get a 7 foot cable made by Redmond Cable to work - probably because their standards of quality are much higher. (BTW: I purchased the cheap cable from their wall display, so I used to refund money to pay for the custom cable). So, you can take Ensoniq's advice and go for a long ribbon cable, or you can experiment with long shielded cables as long as they are high quality. It helps to have a working cable to start with, like the 1 foot freebie I had, so that you have a good argument for getting a refund on any longer cables which do not work. Good luck... | > Also, someone posted a list of drives which was known to work on the | > EPS (from the TH) a while ago, and that list was rather short. Any | > clues why? | | Most SCSI drives ... on the EPS were designed for the | Apple computer market. ... Apple published a spec of all the | SCSI commands which disk drive manufacturers had to implement as | a minimum in their drive logic. | ... Ensoniq, blithely ignorant of this seamy state of | affairs, looked at the official Apple spec and said, "Well, we | can use any of these we want!" Hence, the only SCSI drives which | work on Ensoniq equipment are those which implement the full Apple | SCSI spec... and of course the manufacturers who DID cut corners | aren't talking! ... The "official" SCSI standard is documented by the ANSI committee which designed it. I have a copy (which cost about $30). I'm wondering, though, did Ensoniq or anyone else ever consider Apple "full SCSI spec" as the standard or did they use the official SCSI spec? In any event, it is true that some manufacturers only implemented the commands which were actually used by the Mac, rather than the full set. Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA From Ensoniq.COM!bill Tue Mar 23 14:20:26 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 23 Mar 93 14:19 PST Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.VFL.Paramax.COM (4.1/mls/4.0) id AA01121; Tue, 23 Mar 93 17:19:57 EST X-Info: VFL.Paramax.COM is the new name for GVL.Unisys.COM Please change any mailing lists or aliases. Both the old and the new addresses will work for a short time. Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA25662; Tue, 23 Mar 93 17:18:58 EST Message-Id: <9303232218.AA25662@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA00205; Tue, 23 Mar 93 17:15:50 EST Date: Tue, 23 Mar 93 17:15:50 EST From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: WAVeBOY Resonant Filter Disk Please excuse the blatant commercial nature of this message, but I know you are all dying to know about it... Bill PRESS RELEASE Date: March 23, 1993 Startling new software makes Ensoniq go "Bowp Bowp Bwaa!" WAVeBOY Industries announces the Resonant Filter Disk for the Ensoniq ASR-10 and EPS 16 PLUS. WAVeBOY is continuing to deliver astounding new effects algorithms for Ensoniq samplers. The latest disk contains the RESONANT FILTER Effect, a striking re-creation of the timeless Minimoog. A four-pole low-pass filter is coupled to a lightning fast ADSR envelope generator. The filter resonance control (also known as emphasis, bandwidth, or Q) gives it that distinctive analog soundP a sound that turns the sampler into a fun, funky, fat old synthesizer. To show its stuff, the disk comes with a collection of raw Minimoog samples that come to life when they hit the resonant filter. And its so easy to program the effect (yes, ADSR, thats all) that you'll quickly be transforming your entire library of clean digital samples into strange and wonderful synth sounds. The RESONANT FILTER effect algorithm also incorporates some of WAVeBOY's trademark parallel effects: both chorus and reverb. BUS1 plays through the filter, with post-filter sends to the other effects. Meanwhile other sounds can get to the chorus and reverb via BUS2. Other fun features include a choice of single or multi-trigger modes on the ADSR envelope generator, plus both keyboard tracking and programmable modulation of the filter cutoff frequency. A sample-and-hold function can randomly jump the filter around for that classic ARP sound. But wait... there's more! There's something about pure FM synthesis that sampling just can't capture. It's the dynamic interaction of a performer, making every note a little different from the last. The WAVeBOY FM+FX algorithm uses software inside the effects processor to synthesize one voice of live frequency modulation. The DX-7 used sine waves. The first Synclavier used a sine wave and a complex waveform. Now you can go the last step: modulate any sound with any sound! The results are unpredictable: really crazy, really fat, and sometimes really grungy. FM+FX includes chorus and reverb in the same algorithm. The RESONANT FILTER disk, with FM, is $39.95, direct from WAVeBOY Industries. The WAVeBOY Parallel Effects Disk 1.2, for both the ASR-10 and the EPS-16 PLUS, is also available for $39.95. The Audio-In Effects Disk, also $39.95, is for the EPS-16 PLUS only. Foreign orders, add $6, PA residents add tax. Mastercard, Visa, money order or cashier check. WAVEBOY Industries P.O. Box 233 Paoli, PA 19301 (215) 251-9562 From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Wed Mar 24 00:44:13 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 24 Mar 93 00:43 PST Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Wed, 24 Mar 93 02:43:17 -0600 id AA14793 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Wed, 24 Mar 93 02:42:49 -0600 id AA06982 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1993 02:40:29 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead Subject: Animal sounds and Tambourine To: EPS List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have the disks made, but have no access to a DOS box. Therefore, I can't upload anything until I can figure out a workaround to the problem. Sorry. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From Bern.DoCS.UU.SE!bqt Wed Mar 24 03:05:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.36.125.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 24 Mar 93 03:05 PST Received: from Bern.DoCS.UU.SE by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA16132; Wed, 24 Mar 1993 12:05:32 +0100 Received: by Bern.DoCS.UU.SE (Sun-4/75, SunOS 4.1.1) with sendmail 5.61-bind 1.5+ida/ICU/DoCS id AA17680; Wed, 24 Mar 93 12:05:30 +0100 From: Johnny Billquist Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 12:05:28 MET Reply-To: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se To: brianw@sounds.wa.com Cc: EPS Mailing List Subject: Re: Hard disk for EPS... In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 23 Mar 93 12:37:04 -0800 Message-Id: >Sorry for the delay - have you figured out a solution, Johnny? Haven't had time or equipment, but the more I read, the more I suspect the cable... Just in short, I have a shielded 5 meter cable, that's about 15 feet, much longer than what you had problems with. I'm trying to get a short cable to test with... When I do get the drive to work, by the way, it only works on ID 0. It do sound promising though. (As other people have had the same problem, and a shorter cable worked...) Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus CS student at Uppsala University || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Thu Mar 25 05:15:15 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 93 05:12 PST Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA19490; Thu, 25 Mar 1993 20:23:07 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: from perth.dialix.oz.au (DIALix.oz.au) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au with SMTP (5.65c) id AA01492; Thu, 25 Mar 1993 18:22:49 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.dialix.oz.aux A by perth.dialix.oz.au with UUCP id AA12570 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for reed.edu!eps); Thu, 25 Mar 1993 18:22:44 +0800 Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA008no; Mon, 2 Jan 78 11:11:38 PST Date: Mon, 2 Jan 78 11:11:38 PST Message-Id: <7801021911.AA008nn@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> In-Reply-To: <9303230148.AA00871@sol4.cs.psu.edu> (from mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)) (at Mon, 22 Mar 1993 20:48:15 -0500) X-Mailer: //\\miga Electronic Mail (AmiElm 1.19) Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: INS files as transfer method? >From the desk of Michael Chen: > What do you guys think of using the .INS (.EFE) files as another way of > exchanging instruments at the archive? It might be better than sending whole > disk images... > > Also, how many different platforms out there can actually deal with INS/EFE > files? Would it help if I release the EPSDisk code? > -- Actually I think it's a good idea, mind you with the .Z compression we use an entire disk that only contains 1 instrument will compress to roughly the same size! I have implemented .EFE files in EPS Disk Wizard (Atari ST) right from the very start, not only for sending to nexttues but for backing EPS instruments up on your Atari hard disk if you want! Besides that it's totally compatible with the IBM .EFE (.INS) format which makes it very handy! See ya, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (295 3359). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From itd.nrl.navy.mil!adamson Thu Mar 25 10:22:35 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.60.2.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 93 10:21 PST Received: from [128.60.2.151] (manimac.itd.nrl.navy.mil) by itd.nrl.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26836; Thu, 25 Mar 93 13:21:09 EST Message-Id: <9303251821.AA26836@itd.nrl.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 13:26:21 -0500 To: eps@reed.edu From: adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Brian Adamson) Subject: Exhanging .EFE files ... I think EFE files would be a slick way to go for instrument exchange ... Then you could grab just the instruments you wanted without having to download an entire disk image... As noted, the space for EFE files shouldn't be any more. Considering the size of the files we're slinging around the internet, it would be a nice gesture on our part to lessen the internet load... So who wants to write some ANSI C code for the NEXT to unpack the existing .GKH files into individual .EFE files? Of course, we may want to keep .GKH around for Demo Banks, etc. Just my 2 cents worth, ____________________________________________________________________ | _ _ _ | | /|\ /\ /\_ _ /\ /\ R. Brian Adamson | | / || / / / / / / / / Naval Research Laboratory | | / /|| / / /_/_ _/ / / / Information Technology Division | | / / || / / / \_|\_\/ / / Code 5523 | | / / ||/ / / / || / / | | / / |/ / / / || /_/_ _ adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil | | \/ \/ \/ \ \ _ _ _\ | |____________________________________________________________________| From descartes.uwaterloo.ca!undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjfennem Thu Mar 25 13:46:03 1993 Return-Path: <@descartes.uwaterloo.ca:rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Received: from 129.97.204.128 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 93 13:44 PST Received: from mobius09.math.uwaterloo.ca by descartes.uwaterloo.ca id <246287-2>; Thu, 25 Mar 1993 16:44:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 16:36:57 -0500 From: "Ryan J. Fennema" Subject: Separating vocals ... To: "EPS (R. Fennema)" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to use my EPS-16+ to sample a vocal part from a song, but unfortunately the singing is mixed in with some drums. Is anybody out there successfully separating vocals with circumstances similar to those above? Note: I don't have a lot of toys/equipment, but I'd still be interested in hearing your ideas/techniques ... Thanks, ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= __ ___ /__) /__/ /__/ /\ / Ryan J. Fennema rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca / \ __/ / / / \/ University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada From minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU!s936079 Thu Mar 25 19:23:39 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 131.170.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 93 19:23 PST Received: from minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU by peladon.rmit.OZ.AU with SMTP id AA13314 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 26 Mar 1993 13:23:05 +1000 Received: by minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au From: s936079@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Greg Patten) Message-Id: <9303260322.3566@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> Subject: Melbourne, Australia..EPS for sale. To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 13:22:51 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] EPS Classic with new motherboard (the old one was _REALLY_ crappy) and 4x memory expansion, some goodies, manuals....blah blah...you know the story. Make me an offer. Incidentally the new motherb'd makes a huge difference to the noise output of the EPS. Mine is now heaps quieter than others I work on. -- _-_|\ Greg Patten. / \ \_.-.*/ <--Melbourne, Australia. v email: s936079@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au or s936079@yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au From Jetson.UH.EDU!ST22R Thu Mar 25 21:59:00 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 93 21:58 PST Received: from Jetson.UH.EDU by Jetson.UH.EDU (PMDF #3125 ) id <01GW8S322DN690UT3M@Jetson.UH.EDU>; Thu, 25 Mar 1993 23:58:35 CST Date: 25 Mar 1993 23:58:35 -0600 (CST) From: "CRAZY DJ (U C ME N 3D)" Subject: Maximum Effects To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GW8S322DN890UT3M@Jetson.UH.EDU> X-VMS-To: @EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I've been reading extensively through the musicians manual, and playing with the ASR, but I'm still foggy on effects. What is the maximum number of effect variations that can be playing through the main outs simulaneously?? Like, I have the BANK effect selected, and on each song (instrument) track, I edit the effect parameters and assign BUSSES. I have a drum track play with little reverb, and then some keys with an delayed (echo) effect.. but, when it comes to my final song/demo on the ASR, how many effect-variations can I have?? is it only THREE because there's only BUS1,BUS2, & BUS3 ??? or is it FOUR because I can assign each of the four variations of the ROM effect to each of the instruments?? Or is it TWELVE because THREE*FOUR=TWELVE? I doubt the last one... but, I assume the BUSSES are global, meaning each instrument doesn't have an independent BUS1,BUS2, & BUS3... What is the best setup to get maximum number of effect-variations on an 8 instrument bank demo?? Do you use the FOUR variations each effect comes with? How do you assign BUSSES, and what do you mostly use on the FX window: INST, BANK, or ROM?? Thanks for in advance for your attention and assistance, -james (fx newbie) -djkc From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Thu Mar 25 22:53:02 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 93 22:52 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA13499; Fri, 26 Mar 1993 10:58:16 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23279; Fri, 26 Mar 93 08:54:50 WST Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 08:54:50 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9303260054.AA23279@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS OEX8 for sale Hi Guy's Saw this in rec.music.maklers.synth >From: hatter@cs.utexas.edu (John Eichenseer) >Subject: For Sale: AKAI analog synth, EPS 8x Output Expander > >Ensoniq EPS 8x Output Expander > >This is the box made by Ensoniq that adds 8 additional outputs to any >Classic EPS. Works like a charm. > >I don't know exactly what the market value is here; I think I am looking >for about $150. > >Contact me by e-mail or leave a message on my answering machine. > >Regards, > >John Eichenseer >hatter@cs.utexas.edu >(512) 458-6474 Regards Scott _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cs.tu-berlin.de!klon Fri Mar 26 11:16:53 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 130.149.17.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 26 Mar 93 11:14 PST Received: from seaside.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA28560 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for ); Fri, 26 Mar 1993 20:11:52 +0100 From: Florian Richter Message-Id: <199303261911.AA28560@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Maximum Effects To: ST22R@Jetson.UH.EDU (CRAZY DJ) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 20:11:50 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <01GW8S322DN890UT3M@Jetson.UH.EDU> from "CRAZY DJ" at Mar 25, 93 11:58:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 596 > but, when it comes to my final song/demo on the ASR, how many effect-variations > can I have?? is it only THREE because there's only BUS1,BUS2, & BUS3 ??? Yes. You have ONE variation with different settings for BUS1, BUS2 and BUS3. Florian -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Florian Richter TU Berlin - Germany | | UUCP:klon@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de ..!{unido,pyramid}!tub!opal!klon | | BITNET: klon%tubopal@DB0TUI11.BITNET | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Sun Mar 28 23:01:38 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 28 Mar 93 22:59 PST Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA16307 Mon, 29 Mar 1993 16:59:51 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA10330; Mon, 29 Mar 93 16:59:49 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9303290659.10330@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: A groovey new sample To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 29 Mar 93 16:59:48 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi Last night I had an idea for getting a new bass/sub-bass sound: I held a mic against the hook part of a wire coathanger and plucked the long side of it (distorting in the plane of the coathanger to avoid buzzing against the microphone). The resulting sound was ace - I'm currently using it to underpin a new dance track that I'm working on. Definitely worth a try. I thought of it after reading a Music Technology article about 808state in which one of the guys said that they made a new snare by sticking a mic in a tin waste-paper basket and wacking it with a drum stick. What other nifty tricks do people use to get new samples? Thomas From ACAD.DRAKE.EDU!AAR001 Mon Mar 29 01:37:22 1993 Return-Path: Received: from 192.84.11.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 29 Mar 93 01:35 PST Received: from ACAD.DRAKE.EDU by ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (PMDF #2922 ) id <01GWD6Q5CE6O00081Q@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>; Mon, 29 Mar 1993 03:34:56 CDT Date: 29 Mar 1993 03:34:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "THIS IS NOT REALITY, THIS IS COLLEGE." Subject: Re: A groovey new Sample To: Eps@reed.Edu Message-id: <01GWD6Q5CE6Q00081Q@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"Eps@reed.Edu" X-VMS-Cc: AAR001 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT For one of the neatest Bell/Cymble/gong sounds around, go to your refrigerator or Oven, take one of the LARGE metal rack/grills and suspend it from a string. Depending on where you strike it and what you strike it with (A drum stick, Rubber mallet, Small furry animal) you can get a WIDE range of sounds from Chrystal bells, to chinese gongs. Also makes a killer Hi Hat if you muffle it a tad. Oh and an old standard is a Sampled basketball hitting a court for a bass drum. (Explosions make great precussion sounds, especially mortar shells) Just a few Thoughts, Andy Russell. AAR001@Acad.Drake.Edu Drake University P.S. The Fan fixed my Heat problem! Thanx!