From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Sun Nov 1 17:42:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 1 Nov 92 17:42 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA21939; Mon, 2 Nov 1992 12:42:19 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15978; Mon, 2 Nov 92 09:40:45 WST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 09:40:45 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9211020140.AA15978@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Cartoon Samples Re Cartoon-samples... >> From mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Fri Oct 30 17:22:13 1992 >> If anyone has either cartoon sound samples, or MIDI sys-ex info on/for the >> EPS Classic, would you either send them here, or to nextweek? > > Sorry, no cartoon sound samples. fx1fix.gkh.Z in /pub/samples at nextweek.reed.edu is a bunch of cartoon FX samples. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Sun Nov 1 17:54:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 1 Nov 92 17:54 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA22483; Mon, 2 Nov 1992 12:53:46 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16109; Mon, 2 Nov 92 09:52:14 WST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 09:52:14 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9211020152.AA16109@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: RE: Tauren asks about "ticking" and "economical sample rates". Re: Tauren asks about Ticks and sample-rates >From tauren@mailhost.cs.pdx.edu Sat Oct 31 11:03:13 1992 > >Once again I have sampled something that I want to truncate in the >middle of my sample and get a loud "TICK" at the end of playback. >I believe I understand why this happens, but was hoping someone >could explain how to remove the sound. Should I use some sort of >fade, or what? >Tauren The first thing to try is moving the sample "end" point 1-5 samples to the left. This often works. If it is still clicking a "short fade" will work every time (as you suggest using) try a 10 sample length fade.. >Someone asked a while ago if sampling at 44Khz was wasteful if he >was going to use 30 note polyphany (sp?). So is sampling at >44Khz on an EPS 16+ wasteful if I am going to use 21 note >polyphany? Will I really be playing the samples back at 30Khz >or not? I saw this answered more elegantly earlier, however here's the "quick and dirty" explanation. As the EPS transposes pitch upwards by throwing away data. With a higher sample rate you have more data representing your soundthus you can throw away more data (transpose further) before the distortions this introduces reach unacceptable levels. So if the sound you are going to sample needs to be transposed over a wide pitch range, use the highest sample rate you can reach. If it is a sound with a limited or no pitch-range then go for the most economical...as a rule of thumb...if you are after clean samples :-) In these days of high-quality brick-wall anti-aliasing filters the other argument about reducing aliasing artifacts is muted somewhat. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Nov 2 17:45:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 17:43 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA21550; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 12:43:15 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19050; Tue, 3 Nov 92 09:41:42 WST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 09:41:42 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9211030141.AA19050@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Variable Quantization... Is it just me or am I the only one with variable-quantization on my wish-list for future sampler upgrades? I think the Korg DSS-1 allowed you to vary quantization from 4,8 or 12 bits. I'd like to be able to choose anything from 2-16. Gee this gould even be done as a DSP function after the sample is made.... ...Scott, missing his 8-bit grunge :-) _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Mon Nov 2 18:46:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 18:43 PST Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU with SMTP id AA07741 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 3 Nov 1992 13:43:47 +1100 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA01448; Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:43:46 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9211030243.AA01448@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: Variable Quantization... To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:43:44 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9211030141.AA19050@psy.uwa.edu.au>; from "Scott Fisher" at Nov 3, 92 9:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > > Is it just me or am I the only one with variable-quantization on my > wish-list for future sampler upgrades? I think the Korg DSS-1 allowed > you to vary quantization from 4,8 or 12 bits. I'd like to be able > to choose anything from 2-16. Gee this gould even be done as a DSP > function after the sample is made.... > Ahhhhh, all you need here is a little lateral thinking. I can noise up my samples quite effectively by using the SCALE DATA command, and entering fractional numbers. You might want to play with the compression function (SCALE VOLUME or whatever it's called) first, and needless to say you will probably hae normalised your gain too. You'll need to renormalise after the scale function. Useful tip #8857: if you're trying to do a SYNTH LOOP on a sample and it's giving you all sorts of nasty artefacts (usually really loud transients), scale the data by 0.5. Then do the synth loop and then renormalise. Magic, hmmmm? > ...Scott, missing his 8-bit grunge :-) > > ... Andrew, 13 bit grunge still going strong. (Actually, I played a job in 35 degree heat with no shade, and the EPS... ... survived!!! Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From andrew.cmu.edu!jscw+ Mon Nov 2 19:49:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.2.11.131 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 19:48 PST Received: by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for eps@reed.edu; Mon, 2 Nov 92 22:47:57 EST Received: via switchmail; Mon, 2 Nov 1992 22:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from epidemic.ucc.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Nov 1992 22:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from epidemic.ucc.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Nov 1992 22:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.epidemic.ucc.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.epidemic.ucc.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Mon, 2 Nov 1992 22:46:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 22:46:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jamieson Edward Schulte To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Variable Quantization... In-Reply-To: <9211030141.AA19050@psy.uwa.edu.au> >From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) >Is it just me or am I the only one with variable-quantization on my >wish-list for future sampler upgrades? I think the Korg DSS-1 allowed >you to vary quantization from 4,8 or 12 bits. I'd like to be able >to choose anything from 2-16. Gee this gould even be done as a DSP >function after the sample is made.... > >...Scott, missing his 8-bit grunge :-) You mean you actually like that crisp, trashy 8bit sound???? Yeah, me too. For that and other reasons, I'm working on a sample editor/maker that will be flexible enough to allow anyone to program new effects into it. Right now it only supports oldEPS and Atari because that's the only MIDI setup I've got access to. Anyway, I'm working on various functions and modules for it and your post reminded me that I'd like to add some sort of Mirage retro effect. My question, if anyone knows, is: Is there anything more to the Mirage timbre than 8 bit quantization? Is there some kind of filtering? deglitching? some specific quality to the D/A converter? Thanks, and hopefully everyone will one day see/hear the results of this effort. From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Mon Nov 2 20:13:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 20:12 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <12005-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 05:12:35 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 05:12:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 05:12:31 +0100 Message-Id: <9211030412.AAfidibus13391@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Subject: have: smpcalc3.gkh.Z want.. ..a flutist that can roll on the rrrrrrrrr while playing. I have uploaded a eps classic image to the incoming, it will be requested moved to /pub/samples/. If the management find that's a bad descicion please tell. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Title : smpcalc.gkh.Z size : 462 kB Content: Instrument Size Comment HELLICOPSYNT 237 Blks Heavy STRETCHCROW 237 Blks The idea is that the beginning of the tone is a little disturbing. Then any interval or chord that is held will/should give the impression of beeing a sort of resolution. 3W HarpSynt 81 Blks Reminds me of patches found on "world music" whatever it really is. TEKNO WHINER 160 Blks Right, squeeze the keyboard PERC-FX-DRMS 368 Blks Percussive sounds - some world music, breaking glass and bleeps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Mon Nov 2 20:38:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 20:36 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <12758-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 05:36:47 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 05:36:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 05:36:42 +0100 Message-Id: <9211030436.AAfidibus13433@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Subject: Re: Variable Quantization... >>From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) >>Is it just me or am I the only one with variable-quantization on my ... >>...Scott, missing his 8-bit grunge :-) > >You mean you actually like that crisp, trashy 8bit sound???? Yeah, me too. > Funny you all should mention this right now as I am setting up a business doing those sort of things. I actually got this business idea several minutes before your posts. I will set up a grunge service, a grungerei if you want. Do you want to be my customers?. Here is what I can do for you and what you have to do: You send me your samples by mail on floppy disks together with your phone calling card number. When you recieve a call from me you just sample right out of the telephone. Very grungy. There is a lot of DSP power in those telephone lines. Going long distance means added power. I dont know if you call this adding grung or you just remove that fidelity you dont like. Do you know? If you have many samples you want to add grunge to you might as well ship me the samples on removeable cartridges, freferably with their original Bernoulli drive just to be sure the grunge will not be lost somehow. Terje From pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!OUACCVMB.BITNET!CLEARY Mon Nov 2 21:11:55 1992 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:CLEARY@OUACCVMB.BITNET> Received: from 128.112.129.99 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 21:10 PST Message-Id: Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9639; Tue, 03 Nov 92 00:06:39 EST Received: from OUACCVMB.BITNET (CLEARY) by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.09 ptf003) with BSMTP id 5174; Mon, 02 Nov 92 23:16:30 EST Date: Mon, 02 Nov 92 23:19:02 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Comment: CROSSNET mail via SMTP@INTERBIT Date: 2 November 92, 23:18:44 EST From: CLEARY at OUACCVMB To: EPS at REED.EDU Sub: EPS16+ wanted If you are interested in selling your eps16+ email me. Sale goes to lowest price (module preferred, will consider keyboard model) . Don Cleary at OUACCVMB.Bitnet From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Nov 2 21:23:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 21:22 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA01587; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 16:22:18 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19554; Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:20:42 WST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:20:42 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9211030520.AA19554@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Variable Quantization... Subject: Re: Variable Quantization... jscw+@andrew.cmu.edu writes... >>From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) >>Is it just me or am I the only one with variable-quantization on my >>wish-list for future sampler upgrades? I think the Korg DSS-1 allowed >>you to vary quantization from 4,8 or 12 bits. I'd like to be able >>to choose anything from 2-16. Gee this gould even be done as a DSP >>function after the sample is made.... >> >>...Scott, missing his 8-bit grunge :-) >You mean you actually like that crisp, trashy 8bit sound???? Yeah, me too. [stuff deleted...] > Anyway, I'm working on various functions and modules for it and your >post reminded me that I'd like to add some sort of Mirage retro effect. >My question, if anyone knows, is: > Is there anything more to the Mirage timbre than 8 bit >quantization? Is there some kind of filtering? deglitching? some >specific quality to the D/A converter? Unfortunately there is, the Mirage like the "moogs" have Analog filters that some people claim you can't re-create in "digital". Well I say if you like that CD recording of your Moog then the EPS/EPS16/ASR10 can copy it. Now let's not get into a debate about LP vs CD recordings of Moog synths played through valve vs transistor amps :-). On the serious side tho, the analog output section of the Mirage does add to it's character. Just listen to Mirage samples ported to EPS format...not quite the same...but don't try to double-blind test me on that one :-) 3 bit samples now that would be great! Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From UH.EDU!Robinson Mon Nov 2 22:22:06 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.7.1.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 92 22:21 PST Received: by Menudo.UH.EDU id AA12225 (5.67a+/IDA-1.5 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 3 Nov 1992 00:21:02 -0600 From: "Edward M. Robinson" Message-Id: <199211030621.AA12225@Menudo.UH.EDU> Subject: Re: Variable Quantization... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 0:21:01 CST In-Reply-To: <9211030520.AA19554@psy.uwa.edu.au>; from "Scott Fisher" at Nov 3, 92 1:20 pm Scott Fisher wrote : >jscw+@andrew.cmu.edu writes... >>>From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) >>>Is it just me or am I the only one with variable-quantization on my >>>wish-list for future sampler upgrades? I think the Korg DSS-1 allowed >>>you to vary quantization from 4,8 or 12 bits. I'd like to be able >>>to choose anything from 2-16. Gee this gould even be done as a DSP >>>function after the sample is made.... >>> >>>...Scott, missing his 8-bit grunge :-) > >>You mean you actually like that crisp, trashy 8bit sound???? Yeah, me too. > >Unfortunately there is, the Mirage like the "moogs" have Analog filters that >some people claim you can't re-create in "digital". Well I say if you >like that CD recording of your Moog then the EPS/EPS16/ASR10 can copy it. Also, if you don't care about real time effects, it should be possible to ship the samples to and from an ascii format and then write C, BASIC, FORTRAN (?!), etc. programs to do all kinds of wierd things to the signal. (hmmmm... I seem to have had the schematic for a 4 pole filter around here somewhere...) > >Now let's not get into a debate about LP vs CD recordings of Moog synths played >through valve vs transistor amps :-). How about taking one of those old portable cassette decks, the ones with a 3" speaker and an microphone jack, and recording the sound into it, taping a a cheap condenser microphone to the speaker, and sampling back into the EPS? You could experiment with different quality cassettes, microphones, ... -- Ed Robinson Robinson@uh.edu From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Nov 3 00:25:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 92 00:24 PST Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2623>; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 03:23:38 -0500 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Things I wish for the EPS Classic... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 03:23:30 -0500 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Nov3.032338est.2623@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Okay, while I'm twiddling on the keys, here's a few wishes. 1) Any sort of docs for writing, extending, or whatever on the EPS operating system. I know it uses the MC68000 family, and I'd probably have to either cross-assemble or just rough it, but it would be nice to be able to tinker. 2) Any info at all (including the @%$#^%!$# MIDI sys-ex spec, if it would help) on the EPS instrument file format. I have the disk format already, and can read and write disk images. I'm trying to get around to files and maybe directories, but I figured I should know how to decipher the files first. Plus I wanted to roll my own sample-editing stuff. 3) Ditto on the EPS sequencer file formats. 4) Variable quantization not of the samples, but of the sequences... probably by percentages. But hey, I don't think anyone else is going to work on the Classic OS anymore, huh? Any feedback, anyone? --- Mike From sand.sics.bu.oz.au!s057 Tue Nov 3 03:44:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.244.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 92 03:42 PST Received: from surf.sics.bu.oz.au by kirk.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA17608; Tue, 3 Nov 92 21:42:49 +1000 Received: from SAND.SICS.BU.OZ.AU by surf.sics.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA03447; Tue, 3 Nov 92 22:43:16 -0800 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA07100; Tue, 3 Nov 92 21:45:40 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9211031145.AA07100@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: ASR-10 FX To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 21:45:39 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Just interested to see that the Dp/4 has a vocoder, anyone know whether that's likely to come out, or is physically possible to do on the ASR-10? Steve From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Tue Nov 3 05:13:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 92 05:12 PST Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #3439 ) id <01GQPHQO46O09X41S3@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 08:12:23 EST Date: 03 Nov 1992 08:12:23 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Williams Subject: 35 degree heat To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GQPHQO46O29X41S3@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >From Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au > > (Actually, I played a job in 35 degree heat with no shade, and the EPS... > ... survived!!!) That threw me for a second. For the benefit of other Confused Americans, that's 35 degrees *Celsius*, or 95 Farenheit. The real question, Andrew, is how *you* survived! I probably would have succumbed to heat exhaustion. -Tom Williams Alderson-Broaddus College From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Nov 3 09:47:35 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 92 09:46 PST Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2634>; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 12:45:44 -0500 To: eps@reed.edu, eps-ftp@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL v1.40 --- supports GKH files (finally) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 12:45:42 -0500 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Nov3.124544est.2634@groucho.cs.psu.edu> For those with IBM-compatible computers, EPSUTIL v1.40 has just been uploaded to nextweek. This program allows one to read and write raw image files, GKH format files, and EUI format files (with the unused sectors on the disk omitted for size and speed). Also, you can format EPS disks on your PC, verify them, and sector-edit them (the sector editor requires an EGA or VGA display for the 43-line mode). epsread and epswrite should no longer be necessary, though they still work. I will admit I haven't had time to really thrash the GKH decoder, but it has passed all of the test I've thrown at it, including variable-sized headers with author and subject info. Enjoy, and let me know if something is broken. _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Tue Nov 3 10:03:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 92 10:02 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <22017-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 19:01:54 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 19:01:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 19:01:46 +0100 Message-Id: <9211031801.AAfidibus16775@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Subject: Have: analog1.gkh.Z want... ..guerilja flute sample/sound/performer/reference To sweeten the deal I have uploaded an image containing analog synth samples. It is placed in nextweek.reed.edu:/pub/incoming and will be requested moved to /pub/samples. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Title : analog1.gkh.Z size : 588 kB Content: Instrument Size Comment MESSING PRFT 89 Blks Brass WOOLSTR PRFT 476 Blks Strings SWEEP PRFT 838 Blks Filter sweeps ------------------------------------------------------------------------ These samples are from public domain yamaha sampler disks. The samples have been extracted from the yamaha floppies and converted to eps format. Then an eps instrument is built up on the mac. An eps image disk is then built up on the mac hard disk. From fl08-g.comm.mot.com!schickda Tue Nov 3 10:54:58 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 92 10:53 PST Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.2 for ) id AA26285; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 12:53:30 -0600 Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA14587; Tue, 3 Nov 92 12:53:28 CST Received: from fl08-g.comm.mot.com ([145.2.122.53]) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15372; Tue, 3 Nov 92 12:59:29 CST Received: by fl08-g.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA02353; Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:51:44 EST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:51:44 EST From: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com (David Schick) Message-Id: <9211031851.AA02353@fl08-g.comm.mot.com> Apparently-To: eps@reed.edu Someone asked about if the EPS could ever do vocoding like the DP/4. I have a DP/4. It requires all 4 'units', or processors, to perform this function, so if a vocoder is ever available for the EPS, it will not share the same algorithm as the DP/4. Thank you for your time. I will now self destruct. NOSE! ETHMOID! Zoltan Android: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com WWEEAARR IITT!! From sand.sics.bu.oz.au!s057 Wed Nov 4 06:10:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.244.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 92 06:08 PST Received: from surf.sics.bu.oz.au by kirk.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA02899; Thu, 5 Nov 92 00:08:38 +1000 Received: from SAND.SICS.BU.OZ.AU by surf.sics.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA09891; Thu, 5 Nov 92 01:09:05 -0800 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA04786; Thu, 5 Nov 92 00:11:28 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9211041411.AA04786@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: Congrats Everyone To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 0:11:28 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Congratulations to all you guys in the States on your new president. I don't know anything about American politics, but I figured that if Arnie liked Bush then he must be the way to go :-) , except that Clinton is best mates with the Vice Chancellor from my University, and he told us all he was going to try and get him over here to Oz to give us our degrees when we graduate - if he made it to President. Sounds pretty good to me, but it sounds like a long shot. Steve Frying in 35 degree heat AND no airconditioning Gold Coast Queensland Australia From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Wed Nov 4 09:02:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.254.48.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 92 09:02 PST Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by hpfcla.fc.hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.3/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA27536; Wed, 4 Nov 92 10:00:29 -0700 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA02043; Wed, 4 Nov 92 10:02:22 -0700 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9211041702.AA02043@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: Congrats Everyone To: s057@sand.sics.bu.oz.au Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 10:02:21 MST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9211041411.AA04786@sand.sics.bu.oz.au>; from "Stephen Gregory" at Nov 5, 92 12:11 (midnight) Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] > Congratulations to all you guys in the States on your new president. Hmmmm.... I think condolences would be more in order :^) > Steve > Frying in 35 degree heat AND no airconditioning 35 degree heat in Colorado will barely melt the snow off the roads :^) > Gold Coast > Queensland > Australia Kelly 'waiting-for-the-tax-increase' Larson (No smileys here!) Engineering Systems Lab Hewlett-Packard/Fort Collins kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (303)229-6161 From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Wed Nov 4 17:59:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 92 17:59 PST Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU with SMTP id AA19682 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:59:08 +1100 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA04854; Thu, 5 Nov 92 12:59:07 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9211050159.AA04854@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: 35 degree heat To: WILLIAMS@AB.WVNET.EDU (Tom Williams) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 12:59:06 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <01GQPHQO46O29X41S3@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; from "Tom Williams" at Nov 3, 92 8:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > >From Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au > > > > (Actually, I played a job in 35 degree heat with no shade, and the EPS... > > ... survived!!!) > > That threw me for a second. For the benefit of other > Confused Americans, that's 35 degrees *Celsius*, or 95 > Farenheit. > This is right. We're one of those countries that didn't think that the metric system was a Communist plot. (Actually, it was proboably more of an EEC plot, but that's another story...) > The real question, Andrew, is how *you* survived! I > probably would have succumbed to heat exhaustion. > Factor 15+ sunscreen and a hat. Our rapidly depleting ozone layer teaches us how to deal with such things. :-) I played another open air job yesterday... This one oscillated between 25C heat (quite pleasant really) and gentle sprinkles of rain... so I've played the EPS in wet weather and it still hasn't packed it in. I've also played in situations where we've been located under a tree, which then proceeds to drop semibiodegradable muck on the keyboard in the course of a 4 hour job. My EPS gets a fair amount of punishment, and the worst that has happened so far is that a disk has died on me. And yes, I had a backup. > -Tom Williams > Alderson-Broaddus College > Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From ERE.UMontreal.CA!dionf Wed Nov 4 21:22:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.204.2.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 92 21:21 PST Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA20691 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:20:17 GMT Received: from brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (911016.SGI/5.17) id AA04461; Thu, 5 Nov 92 00:20:15 -0500 Received: by brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (920330.SGI/5.17) id AA14988; Thu, 5 Nov 92 00:20:15 -0500 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9211050520.AA14988@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: My disks got stolen! To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 0:20:15 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Shit! Tonight, i brought the eps16+ and my disks to the radio station. I go to the bathroom at one point, my eps is in the production studio along with a diskette box. I return to the studio, and to my horror (no my eps16+ is still there) my box has disappeared. I'm still wondering what i'll do since i don't even know what i had on these disks since most of them are my cousin's. The EPS16+ is also borrowed from my cousin. Can someone tell me what is conventionnal with the EPS16+? If i remember correctly he had around 25 disks from Ensoniq. He had 1 or 2 waveboy disk. And the rest was probably PD. Now, i can probably get back the PD easy. I also have waveboy address somewhere in archive. So the problem is with the Ensoniq disks. Is there a fee to get them from Ensoniq (oh my god i can feel my money disappearing...)? Can i get them from a music shop? Can a music shop copy them or only sell them? Were they really included with the EPS16+? I could be wrong, but at least one was for EPS. If any one can help me on that i'd appreciate. Thanks, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... From sand.sics.bu.oz.au!s057 Wed Nov 4 21:32:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.244.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 92 21:32 PST Received: from surf.sics.bu.oz.au by kirk.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA22604; Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:31:39 +1000 Received: from SAND.SICS.BU.OZ.AU by surf.sics.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA16224; Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:32:07 -0800 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA23805; Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:34:25 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9211050534.AA23805@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: Re: 35 degree heat To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:34:24 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I reckon the worst I've had happen is a dust storm blowing up during an outdoor concert. Before I got covers over it I managed to get enough sand into the buttons so that I can turn the machine upside down in my room and have quite a nice little beach. The interface now provides some aural feedback, it makes nice little crunching noises when I press anything. Steve From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Thu Nov 5 02:25:01 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 92 02:24 PST Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Thu, 5 Nov 92 04:24:40 -0600 id AA00669 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Thu, 5 Nov 92 04:24:26 -0600 id AA03830 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:21:38 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: 35 degree heat To: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9211050534.AA23805@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My 16+ has had bad experience with two seperate bars. In these places, it won't read floppies no matter if it's cool or all warmed up. I've come to the conclusion that it has something to do with the electricity in these bars/towns not being anywhere near perfect. If I had the money for a nice UPS, I'd get one. Sadly, they don't come cheap. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From essex.ecn.uoknor.edu!cmparris Thu Nov 5 12:22:46 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.15.24.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 92 12:22 PST Received: by kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu id AA16890 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:22:31 -0600 From: Chris Michael Parrish Message-Id: <199211052022.AA16890@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Subject: Assigning Pitch To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:22:29 CST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Not having the world's best ear, and not being a formally trained musician, I have a lot of trouble taking a sample from a non-musical (in the traditional sense) instrument, and using it with other instruments on my EPS. Does anyone have any ideas or tips that could help me get samples assigned to the right key ? I was think an inexpensive guitar tuner would work....but I'm not sure... -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Chris Parrish | University of Oklahoma | "To share is to split..." cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu | - KMFDM _______________________________________________________________________________ From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Nov 5 13:53:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 92 13:51 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA04475; Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:49:32 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AF9C3E1@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 05 Nov 92 17:01:21 Subject: Assigning Pitch To: , <@IBM4381.ONET.EDU:cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 17:01:00 Message-Id: <2AF9C3E1@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 59 TEXT Do this: Create a new layer in your newly sampled insturment (let's call it layer 2) Select "CREATE WAVEFORM" (let's call this WS-2) from the Command-Wave menu and put that new wave into your layer 2. Be sure that layer 2 is set to play by selecting edit insturment this should display the layer-on page. By default, the first three layers are turned on. You can tell they are turned on by verifying that the layer number you want shows up on that screen. When you press a key, you should hear a buzzing wavesample and your new sample at the same time. You can adjust the volume level of either sample in the EDIT AMP page so that you can hear one with out overpowering the other. The buzzing sound is the wave that you just created (I think it is a sawtooth wave...it uses VERY little data). This wave is automatically created with the correct pitch table. Be sure that you have selected Layer 1, Wavesample 1 and hit EDIT-PITCH and go to the ROOT-KEY PAGE. While hitting the C-4 key, use the up and down arrow keys to adjust the pitch of your first wavesample. You will hear the pitch changing. Stop when the pitches get fairly close to each other. Move to the RIGHT and use the data-slider to adjust the fine-pitch control until the the pitches of the waves match exactly. Once you've got them "together", just hit COMMAND LAYER and go to the DELETE LAYER page and delete layer 2. BE CAREFULL!!!!!!! DON'T DELETE LAYER 1 BY ACCIDENT. On a related note, if you're bored, you can mess with the Ensoniq CREATE WAVE and the filter envelopes and stuff to synthesize some neat bass sounds. Only problem is that the volume of the CREAT WAVE isn't too loud, I often end up creating 4 or 5 layers just to get some force behind it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPLY FROM: Winer, Greg Return-path: <@IBM4381.ONET.EDU:cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu> From: Chris Michael Parrish Message-Id: <199211052022.AA16890@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Subject: Assigning Pitch To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:22:29 CST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not having the world's best ear, and not being a formally trained musician, I have a lot of trouble taking a sample from a non-musical (in the traditional sense) instrument, and using it with other instruments on my EPS. Does anyone have any ideas or tips that could help me get samples assigned to the right key ? I was think an inexpensive guitar tuner would work....but I'm not sure... -- ______________________________________________________________________________ _ Chris Parrish | University of Oklahoma | "To share is to split..." cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu | - KMFDM ______________________________________________________________________________ _ From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Thu Nov 5 13:54:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 92 13:53 PST Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU with SMTP id AA05866 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:53:29 +1100 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA05837; Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:53:28 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9211052153.AA05837@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: Assigning Pitch To: cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Chris Michael Parrish) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 8:53:27 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <199211052022.AA16890@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu>; from "Chris Michael Parrish" at Nov 5, 92 2:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > Not having the world's best ear, and not being a formally trained musician, > I have a lot of trouble taking a sample from a non-musical (in the traditional > sense) instrument, and using it with other instruments on my EPS. Does anyone > have any ideas or tips that could help me get samples assigned to the right key > ? I was think an inexpensive guitar tuner would work....but I'm not sure... > > That's right. Lay your hands on a tuner that tunes to any note, not just and E-A-D etc guitar tuner. These boxes usually have little LEDs which light up under what note you're playing, and a meter which shows the pitch variation. I prefer boxes which have an analog meter to show pitch, not ones with LED meters, but that may be a personal choice sort of thing. These boxes are also very handy for tuning multisampled sounds- after all, many samples I got had poorly tuned multisamples. Note also that, for some wierd reason, just because a sample should be in tune according to your meter, that doesn't mean it will sound that way, so don't be too afraid of trusting your ear. Maybe you could get one of those ear training things they advertise in "keyboard", and you could end up with that dorky look all the people in those ads seem to have :=) > Chris Parrish | > Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From rsinc.com!keith Thu Nov 5 14:14:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.5.156.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:13 PST Received: by gateway.rsinc.com (rsinc-gateway.920524) Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:14:20 MST Return-Path: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:14:20 MST From: Keith R. Crosley Message-Id: <9211052214.AA03779@gateway.rsinc.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Assigning Pitch Just a note: The waveform created by CREATE WAVEFORM is a square wave (i.e., sounds more like a clarinet than a brass instrument). Also, I think another problem that Greg may be having is that his samples of "non-instruments" are really unpitched. Sounds that are predominantly noise have no real fundamental frequency. Looping at various points in the sample will bring out different apparent fundamental frequencies. Sometimes the are multiple frequencies, any of which could be used as the fundamental pitch. Another handy idea is to use CREATE WAVEFORM on a new instrument and save that instrument out to your system disk. Now any time you need a tuning reference, you can just load that instrument. --- Keith From SERVAX.FIU.EDU!NELSONJ Fri Nov 6 04:52:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.94.64.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 92 04:52 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 7:52:07 -0500 (EST) From: NELSONJ@SERVAX.FIU.EDU Message-Id: <921106075207.2021e8cf@SERVAX.FIU.EDU> Subject: Please . . . To: eps@reed.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"eps@reed.edu" take my name off of your mailinf list. Thank you! From essex.ecn.uoknor.edu!cmparris Fri Nov 6 10:14:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.15.24.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 92 10:14 PST Received: by kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu id AA28733 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:14:08 -0600 From: Chris Michael Parrish Message-Id: <199211061814.AA28733@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Subject: Mac MIDI and synth software To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 12:14:06 CST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I am looking to get a Macintosh in the next month or so and I am looking for some MIDI and music software. If anyone can give me their thoughts on good sample editing software, a sequencing program, and any sound creation programs (I think turbosynth is one program I am talking about...) I would greatly apreciate it. Also manufacturer name and phone number, as well as a price range would be great too... -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Chris Parrish | University of Oklahoma | "To share is to split..." cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu | - KMFDM _______________________________________________________________________________ From ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj Fri Nov 6 12:03:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.128.59 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 92 12:02 PST Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA26473; Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:02:22 -0500 From: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) Message-Id: <9211062002.AA26473@en.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: LPF cutoff frequencies on EPS: question To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:02:18 EST Priority: Urgent X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Can someone tell me roughly what the settings on the original EPS filter pair correspond to in Hz if I have them both in 2-pole LPF mode and set to the same freq. number (in [0-127])? I did an aliasing demo tape for someone, but I wasn't able to accurately say what the reconstruction filter frequencies were since all I had was a number from 0 to 127... An answer, preferably very soon, would be a big big big help. Thanks! -- John Davison davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu From moon.nbn.com!cyberden!xorcist Fri Nov 6 13:25:57 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.132.30.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:24 PST Received: from well.sf.ca.us by nkosi.well.sf.ca.us (5.65c/SMI-4.1/nkosi-920918-2) id AA13913; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:25:24 -0800 Received: by well.sf.ca.us (5.65c/SMI-4.1/well-921015-1) id AA24669; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:23:12 -0800 Received: from cyberden.UUCP by moon.nbn.com (4.1/NBN-16/MOON-44) id AA18541; Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:22:45 PST Received: by cyberden.uucp (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 05 Nov 92 13:08:54 PST for reed.edu!eps To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Help me get the EPS digessts From: cyberden!xorcist@moon.nbn.com Comments: The Devil Message-Id: Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 13:07:50 PST Organization: Indescribable Creations moon!Pa.dec.com!nobody writes: > Orig message-id: > Orig subject: - > Orig from: cyberden!xorcist@moon.nbn.com > Orig date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 16:55:40 PST > > --- connecting to ftp.reed.edu... > Connecting to ftp.reed.edu > 220 romulus FTP server (ULTRIX Version 4.1 Tue Mar 19 00:38:17 EST 1991) read > --- logging in as user=anonymous password=ftpmail/cyberden!xorcist@moon.nbn.c > ---> USER anonymous > 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password. > ---> PASS > 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. > ---> TYPE A > 200 Type set to A. > --- changing working directory to /pub/mailing-lists/eps... > ---> CWD /pub/mailing-lists/eps > 250 CWD command successful. > --- getting file (eps-digest01.z as /tmp/ftpmail24648.file.0)... > ---> TYPE I > 200 Type set to I. > ---> PORT 16,1,0,19,18,223 > 200 PORT command successful. > ---> RETR eps-digest01.z > 550 eps-digest01.z: No such file or directory. > Failure on RETR command > !!! get failed > ---> (end of ftpmail session) Ok... I give up. Perhaps I'm missing something here. In the right dir, it finds the file and get send it... Can someone please send ALL eps digests to me ASAP as I am going to include them on a CD/CD-ROM (half and half) Industrial music/cybercore project for all to enjoy. Thanks orcist __________________________________________________________________________ | / |\ | H E \ Y B E R |/ E N [ xorcist@cyberden.uucp ] From moon.nbn.com!cyberden!xorcist Fri Nov 6 13:26:03 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.132.30.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:24 PST Received: from well.sf.ca.us by nkosi.well.sf.ca.us (5.65c/SMI-4.1/nkosi-920918-2) id AA13918; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:25:31 -0800 Received: by well.sf.ca.us (5.65c/SMI-4.1/well-921015-1) id AA24683; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:23:15 -0800 Received: from cyberden.UUCP by moon.nbn.com (4.1/NBN-16/MOON-44) id AA18533; Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:22:36 PST Received: by cyberden.uucp (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 05 Nov 92 13:07:20 PST for reed.edu!eps To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Mac MIDI and synth software From: cyberden!xorcist@moon.nbn.com Comments: The Devil Message-Id: Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 13:04:40 PST In-Reply-To: <199211061814.AA28733@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Organization: Indescribable Creations Chris Michael Parrish writes: > I am looking to get a Macintosh in the next month or so and I am looking fo > some MIDI and music software. If anyone can give me their thoughts on good > sample editing software, a sequencing program, and any sound creation program Sample editing: Sound Tools II or Audiomedia II card. (That will also allow HD Recording). Alchemy (Sound Acellerator card not required) ..Alchemy in my opinion is the best. SCSI support for most samplers and the best editing features although Alchemy & Sound Designer go hand in hand. SampleEdit SampleEdit Pro Midi: Vision Studio Vision (Sound Acellerator support/MIDI+HD Playback) Oh yea. ANYTHING for the Mac is expensive. __________________________________________________________________________ | / |\ | H E \ Y B E R |/ E N [ xorcist@cyberden.uucp ] From horde Fri Nov 6 16:07:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 92 16:06 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" Subject: Re: Help me get the EPS digessts To: cyberden!xorcist@moon.nbn.com cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 cyberden!xorcist@moon.nbn.com wrote: > > --- getting file (eps-digest01.z as /tmp/ftpmail24648.file.0)... > > 550 eps-digest01.z: No such file or directory. > Ok... I give up. Perhaps I'm missing something here. In the right dir, > it finds the file and get send it... > > Can someone please send ALL eps digests to me ASAP as I am going to include > them on a CD/CD-ROM (half and half) Industrial music/cybercore project for > all to enjoy. Well...you almost have the filename right. Try a cap 'Z' at the end. % cd ~ftp/pub/mailing-lists/eps % ls eps-digest01.Z eps-digest10.Z eps-digest2.Z@ eps-digest29.Z eps-digest38.Z eps-digest02.Z eps-digest11.Z eps-digest20.Z eps-digest3.Z@ eps-digest4.Z@ eps-digest03.Z eps-digest12.Z eps-digest21.Z eps-digest30.Z eps-digest5.Z@ eps-digest04.Z eps-digest13.Z eps-digest22.Z eps-digest31.Z eps-digest6.Z@ eps-digest05.Z eps-digest14.Z eps-digest23.Z eps-digest32.Z eps-digest7.Z@ eps-digest06.Z eps-digest15.Z eps-digest24.Z eps-digest33.Z eps-digest8.Z@ eps-digest07.Z eps-digest16.Z eps-digest25.Z eps-digest34.Z eps-digest9.Z@ eps-digest08.Z eps-digest17.Z eps-digest26.Z eps-digest35.Z indexes/ eps-digest09.Z eps-digest18.Z eps-digest27.Z eps-digest36.Z latest eps-digest1.Z@ eps-digest19.Z eps-digest28.Z eps-digest37.Z % Hey folks, we're almost up to digest #40. Sorry, but I don't have the time to mail copies of the digests off to individual people. -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) Unix Systems Programmer, Reed College From fl08-g.comm.mot.com!schickda Sat Nov 7 04:50:39 1992 Return-Path: Received: from local by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 92 10:53 PST Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-2.2 for ) id AA26285; Tue, 3 Nov 1992 12:53:30 -0600 Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA14587; Tue, 3 Nov 92 12:53:28 CST Received: from fl08-g.comm.mot.com ([145.2.122.53]) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15372; Tue, 3 Nov 92 12:59:29 CST Received: by fl08-g.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA02353; Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:51:44 EST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:51:44 EST From: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com (David Schick) Message-Id: <9211031851.AA02353@fl08-g.comm.mot.com> Apparently-To: eps@reed.edu Someone asked about if the EPS could ever do vocoding like the DP/4. I have a DP/4. It requires all 4 'units', or processors, to perform this function, so if a vocoder is ever available for the EPS, it will not share the same algorithm as the DP/4. Thank you for your time. I will now self destruct. NOSE! ETHMOID! Zoltan Android: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com WWEEAARR IITT!! From pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!OUACCVMB.BITNET!CLEARY Sat Nov 7 11:14:32 1992 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:CLEARY@OUACCVMB.BITNET> Received: from 128.112.129.99 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 7 Nov 92 11:13 PST Message-Id: Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9563; Sat, 07 Nov 92 14:11:22 EST Received: from OUACCVMB.BITNET (CLEARY) by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.09 ptf005) with BSMTP id 1306; Sat, 07 Nov 92 14:11:22 EST Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 14:13:53 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Comment: CROSSNET mail via SMTP@INTERBIT Date: 7 November 92, 14:11:28 EST From: CLEARY at OUACCVMB To: EPS at REED.EDU Sub: EPS16+ wanted Repeat message (first one returned undelivered to many members): Wanted: Used EPS16+ to go with the one I have. Sale goes to lowest bid. Cleary at Ouaccvmb.Bitnet