From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Sun Oct 25 14:34:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 25 Oct 92 14:32 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <09977-0@pat.uio.no>; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 23:32:41 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 23:32:37 +0100 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1992 23:32:37 +0100 Message-Id: <9210252232.AAfidibus26516@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Subject: Have: smpcalc2.gkh.Z, want: guerilja flute smpcalc2.gkh.Z is 556 k and contains calculated samples. for the eps classic. all sounds are "musical" in a traditional sense. Some patches _uses_ aliasing. ---------------------------------------------------- Name Size(blks) Comments ---------------------------------------------------- 1. FANTABY 386 for strong leads/punctuation 2. TRASH MUCHO 165 heavy bass-riffs 3. ALICE ORGAN 120 aliasing used 4. SNT SAX R+ 81 sounds too acoustic 5. SYNTH VSOP 120 10 year old dig synth 6. AG2DUST FISA 81 aliasing used as Ag-bells 7. ALI A** 81 aliasing patch 8. SAGHUEAV SNT 81 motor saw attack 9. ALIS ORG SNT 200 organ with aliasing From horde Sun Oct 25 15:08:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 25 Oct 92 15:07 PST Message-Id: To: cyberden!xorcist@moon.nbn.com cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: results of ftpmail request 719881611.6625 [-] In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 23 Oct 92 19:58:24 PDT. <2Ro5sB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 92 15:07:30 -0800 From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" In message <2Ro5sB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> you write: >> --- connecting to nextweek.reed.edu... >> Connecting to nextweek.reed.edu >> --- changing working directory to /pub/mailing-lists/eps... >> 550 /pub/mailing-lists/eps: No such file or directory. >> !!! can't chdir >> ---> (end of ftpmail session) > >Ok... once again... there is no such dir as above... Grr...I wish there was a better way to do this. The mailing-lists for old eps-digests are in: ftp.reed.edu:/pub/mailing-lists/eps The reason for this is that ftp.reed.edu also serves as our mailhost and there is no "easy" way to save everything to nextweek.reed.edu automatically. I've added a note about this to the ftp login message on nextweek. -Heiji From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Sun Oct 25 17:08:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 25 Oct 92 17:08 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA26481; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 12:07:51 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05562; Mon, 26 Oct 92 09:06:18 WST Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 09:06:18 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9210260106.AA05562@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Test Test...Just testing. Scott. From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Mon Oct 26 15:23:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 15:22 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <21273-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 00:22:33 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 00:22:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 00:22:28 +0100 Message-Id: <9210262322.AAfidibus01591@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Subject: Re: Have: smpcalc2.gkh.Z, want: guerilja flute Sorry about this whimpsyness, but may be I have to tell you: >smpcalc2.gkh.Z is 556 k and contains calculated samples. >for the eps classic. What I did not say was that sound 5,6,7 are for the EPS classic ONLY. We have been used to files that cannot be loaded on the classic, but only on the 16+. Well, this was the other way around, they cannot be played on a 16+. Also file 8 sounds vastly different on a classic, where it should be played, than on the 16+. Also here we have gotten used to the other way around. Anyhow to increase the chances for trading a guerilja flute I have changed the files so they are playable also on the 16+ and resubmitted the bunch. Terje From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Oct 26 17:00:35 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 17:00 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14272; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 11:59:47 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07197; Tue, 27 Oct 92 08:58:16 WST Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 08:58:16 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9210270058.AA07197@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: OS 1.17 Well the release of OS 1.17 for the EPS 16 Plus went off with a "wimper" :-) Anyone out there playing around with it? Incase you missed it, check out nextweek.reed.edu /pub/incoming OS-117.txt Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ads.com!pdel Mon Oct 26 17:34:35 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 17:34 PST Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA03929; Mon, 26 Oct 92 17:35:53 -0800 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA00163; Mon, 26 Oct 92 17:35:50 -0800 Message-Id: <9210270135.AA00163@deimos.ads.com> Subject: Re: OS 1.17 To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 17:35:49 PST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9210270058.AA07197@psy.uwa.edu.au>; from "Scott Fisher" at Oct 27, 92 8:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > > Well the release of OS 1.17 for the EPS 16 Plus went off with a "wimper" :-) wimper > > Anyone out there playing around with it? Yes, i got it booted and even did some floppy loads with the sequencer running. And, as expected, HD loads really messed up the timing. I guess if you really wanted to use that feature you could adjust your loads in a certain way to minimize it. I liked playing with it because it made me more aware of problems with implementing a feature like this. To the average user, it seems easy until you realize everything that's involved. PD From yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au!flite Mon Oct 26 17:49:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.194.9.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 17:48 PST Received: by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (5.65a/1.34) id AA10591; Tue, 27 Oct 92 12:48:21 +1100 From: flite@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jon Walker) Message-Id: <9210270148.AA10591@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au> Subject: Techno samples To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 12:48:17 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 698 Hiyas..guess you could say im a bit of a newbie to the EPS ..i should know..K-) Ive had a look thru the PD archives, but i cant seem to find kickin samples that really make the music Thanks **flite** From cup.portal.com!fredness Mon Oct 26 21:08:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.83.245.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 21:07 PST Return-Path: Received: by nova.unix.portal.com (5.65b/4.1 1.167) id AA15850; Mon, 26 Oct 92 21:07:47 -0700 Received: by portal.unix.portal.com (1.357) id AA19791; Mon, 26 Oct 92 21:07:47 -0700 Received: by hobo.corp.portal.com (4.1/4.0.3 1.22) id AA02848; Mon, 26 Oct 92 21:07:45 PPE To: eps@reed.edu From: fredness@cup.portal.com Subject: Re: Techno samples Lines: 17 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 21:07:44 PDT Message-Id: <9210262107.2.2614@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) >Im eagrly looking fer tecno brothers thruout the globe..ive been writing >techno mods for the Commodore Amiga for endless hours..and now wish to >expand to the eps.. Rave, techno, Industrial ... :) Sorry don't have any sample collections that are public domain to recomend. I assume you have the classic INDUSTRY TEC classic EPS sample, its 13 bits of techno percussion fun. A useful program for the Amiga is Synthia Professional. Can generate/ calculate FM, additive, ... samples on the Amiga side of MIDI and exchange data via MIDI with the EPS. Some of these samples, especially the FM generated ones, sound great coming out of an EPS. If you're really into techo, why bother with an EPS 16+, how about the aliasing grunge of the Mirage, now thats techo! ;-) - fredness From nu1.uh.cwru.edu!ellert Tue Oct 27 06:42:30 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.22.168.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 06:42 PST Received: by nu1.uh.cwru.edu (MX V2.3-1) id 17968; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 09:41:56 EST Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 09:41:56 EST From: ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu To: eps@reed.edu Message-ID: <00962B64.814B7B50.17968@nu1.uh.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: Techno samples >Im eagrly looking fer tecno brothers thruout the globe..ive been writing >techno mods for the Commodore Amiga for endless hours..and now wish to >expand to the eps.. Hi, I'm not that familiar with techno; probably more familiar with early industrial (bronze age), but I have some friends who are. Suffice it to say they were duly impressed with the power of my 16+. Just noodling with samples of our voices some drums, then tweaking the effects parameters to the extremes, we got some vicious sounds. My friends were quite happy; I'm not sure my wife was. A couple of weeks later they were even more impressed with the Time-Dicer effect from WaveBoy. Moral: sample some Julio Inglesias and then improve it with the EPS. Just a thought, Ed From ibm4381.onet.edu!mwiley%UTCADMIN Tue Oct 27 08:21:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 08:21 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA23113; Tue, 27 Oct 92 11:18:58 EST From: mwiley%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AEDB0D5@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Tue, 27 Oct 92 13:12:53 Subject: WANTED: SCSI Port To: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 13:12:00 Message-Id: <2AEDB0D5@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 39 TEXT I'm looking for someone who would like to sell their EPS SCSI kit in either of the following ways: 1. If you have a 2X memory expander w/ the SCSI adapter, we can swap expanders plus I'll send $$ in the amount of your asking price for your SCSI port, thereby eliminating the need for "surgery" 2. Just remove the kit from your MEX-??. I have been assured by Ensoniq techs that it's a plug-in job, no soldering (unless you screw something up). 3. Sell me your 4X expander w/ SCSI port. I can pay either full price for the unit or if you are still in need of memory, I can trade you my 2X for $40 credit towards yours. 4. Any other way you can think of. P.S. EPS-16+ SCSI ports are exactly the same as the EPS plain-vanilla ones with the exception of the ROM upgrades that ship with the kits Thanks! Melissa From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Tue Oct 27 08:24:45 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 08:24 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA23121; Tue, 27 Oct 92 11:22:08 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AEDB192@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Tue, 27 Oct 92 13:16:02 Subject: Alternate Software To: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 13:15:00 Message-Id: <2AEDB192@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 3 TEXT Does anyone know of any alternate operating system mods or utilities for the original EPS? From mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca!marshal Tue Oct 27 12:03:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.113.4.110 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 12:03 PST Received: by mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca id AA04812 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 27 Oct 1992 15:03:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 15:03:20 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Marshall Subject: OS 1.17 To: eps@reed.edu Message-Id: Many thanks go out to Scott Fisher (once again). Being a floppy only user (yech!), I'm really looking forward to giving OS 1.17 the once over. I will try and give it a good test this weekend, so hang on. Also appreciate the professionalism with which Scott released this potentially valuable tool. Keep up the good work, Ryan. rjfennem@descartes.uwaterloo.ca From rsinc.com!keith Tue Oct 27 12:26:35 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.5.156.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 12:26 PST Received: by gateway.rsinc.com (rsinc-gateway.920524) Tue, 27 Oct 92 13:26:36 MST Return-Path: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 13:26:36 MST From: Keith R. Crosley Message-Id: <9210272026.AA01749@gateway.rsinc.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR-10 poll Hey kids! So, how many ASR users are there on the list now? I have one, and I know Bill Lee has one... anybody else? Also, what kinds of bugs are you discovering? I haven't crashed mine yet, but then I haven't given it a lot of use because: * The first ASR-10 I received (number 41 off the assembly line!) had a couple of parts *rattling around inside the case*! These parts turned out to be a metal screw and some sort of spring fastener... Good 'ol 41 also had a really funny sound when 2 or 3 of the keys hit bottom. Note that my replacement, which Ensoniq sent 2nd day, has had no problems and neither machine had *electronic* problems. Anybody else have funny problems like this? So my *new* ASR (serial number 400-something) is OK, but the sustain pedal that came *boxed* with the unit was visibly broken when I received it. Coulda broken in transit, I guess, but I suspect that there's just a *slight* quality control problem back at the factory... I don't mean this message to scare anybody off of buying an ASR -- when there's any problem, Ensoniq is *great* about quickly fixing it (it also helps if you have a great *local* dealer). In fact, you should BUY AN ASR NOW, NOW, NOW! But I just thought I'd share my experiences with all of you now that things have been happily rectified. Later, Keith From Ensoniq.COM!bill Tue Oct 27 12:53:33 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 12:53 PST Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM (4.1/mls/3.3.v2) id AA15557; Tue, 27 Oct 92 15:53:17 EST Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA20892; Tue, 27 Oct 92 15:51:13 EST Message-Id: <9210272051.AA20892@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA02284; Tue, 27 Oct 92 15:46:07 EST Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 15:46:07 EST From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: effects tidbit As we were beta testing the new software, we discovered that very few people understood how effect variations actually work. (16 plus or ASR-10). Did you know: the four effect variations are separately editable. You can edit parameters of VAR=1, change to VAR=2, edit the parameters, and then switch between them. In other words, these can be YOUR variations, not just the four factory variations. Taking a deep breath after pushing the ASR out... Bill Mauchly From ERE.UMontreal.CA!dionf Tue Oct 27 14:32:08 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.204.2.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 14:31 PST Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA13730 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Tue, 27 Oct 1992 22:30:46 GMT Received: from brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (911016.SGI/5.17) id AA17812; Tue, 27 Oct 92 17:30:45 -0500 Received: by brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (920330.SGI/5.17) id AA28797; Tue, 27 Oct 92 17:30:45 -0500 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9210272230.AA28797@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Individual instrument file format anybody? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 27 Oct 92 17:30:44 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi, I have succesfully made a program to extract IIF (file type 3) on a pc from a disk image. I also made a kind of dir for images. I'll have to add support for the floppy also, but this is not the important point. Putting back the individual instrument file on the image or floppy is not very hard also, but i have not done it yet. Again, this is not a problem. The problem is that once i have the iif, i want to read all information but i don't know exactly how. (I know i've succesfully extracted the iif since i can play it back on a GUS and it's what i put on the disk). If anybody has the information on the headers, i'd appreciate if you could send me a copy. BTW, it's on an IBM compatible... My ultimate goal is to take the eps samples and modify them on the PC to either go back on the EPS16+ or be used by a GUS as a patch. I know that several people attempted to do that, but the only info i found was on the fat, dirs and disk dumps (gkh, eui ...). I had found one person that was supposed to send me more info on the iif but i've lost his adress, and he never replied... Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Tue Oct 27 14:58:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 14:58 PST Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU with SMTP id AA27348 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 28 Oct 1992 09:58:08 +1100 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA19567; Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:58:07 EST Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:58:07 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9210272258.AA19567@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Backward compatibility of ASR10 Just a quick question: is the disk format of the ASR10 compatible with the older EPS/ EPS16+ formats? Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Oct 27 17:19:42 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 17:19 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA08587; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:18:48 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10000; Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:17:16 WST Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:17:16 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9210280117.AA10000@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR10 and things... Subject: ASR-10 poll and Things... Status: RO Keith writes... >Hey kids! > >So, how many ASR users are there on the list now? I >have one, and I know Bill Lee has one... anybody else? [stuff deleted...] >* The first ASR-10 I received (number 41 off the assembly > line!) had a couple of parts *rattling around inside the > case*! These parts turned out to be a metal screw and some > sort of spring fastener... Good 'ol 41 also had a really > funny sound when 2 or 3 of the keys hit bottom. Note that > my replacement, which Ensoniq sent 2nd day, has had no > problems and neither machine had *electronic* problems. > Anybody else have funny problems like this? Things like this are to be expected with early units while the factory get's comfortable making them. It's like anything you do en-mass the first examples will be slow and awkward to make then as the construction bugs get sorted out things run more smoothly and the products get better put together. Keith do you think you could review it...now now now now !!!!! :-) >From bill@Ensoniq.COM Wed Oct 28 08:22:12 1992 Bill writes... [stuff deleted...] >Taking a deep breath after pushing the ASR out... >Bill Mauchly So Bill, when is the thing due for release in Australia? If you have any more time, any background on the ASR's development would be appreceated :-) I suppose you are now flat out working on the SD-1 replacement..based on the same FX chip no doubt. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From poda.wins.icl.co.uk!A.Spiceley Wed Oct 28 04:45:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.91.199.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 04:45 PST Received: from eros.uknet.ac.uk by ben.uknet.ac.uk via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:44:41 +0000 X400-Received: by mta eros.uknet.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:44:23 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/; converted (ia5); Relayed; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:42:25 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/; converted (odif); Relayed; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:43:06 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:42:25 +0000 X400-Originator: A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/;ICLPODA 0000001300006826] Original-Encoded-Information-Types: undefined X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 6826 From: A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk Message-ID: <"6826*/I=A/S=Spiceley/OU=poda/O=icl/PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS panel operation / e-pno sample recommendation needed Time to tap into the collective brain again, with a couple of queries wrt EPS panel operation, and a request for a sample recommendation. BTW I have rack EPS16+ but my guess is that the answer to at least the first question would be the same for the "classic". 1) I'm sure this is a really dumb question but what the hell.. Just how do you use the "direct dial" mode of operation? When I do the button pushes for ddialling given in the manual, the effect of pushing one of the number pad keys always seems to be to select a different page. Is there some magic "hold down button A whilst..." to this? 2) Which prompts the second question: in a couple of places in the manual there is reference to "short cut" operations where you hold down one button and press one or more others, instead of mode/page/scroll... Is there a definitive list anywhere? (I didn't see one in the digest, but then I am notoriously unobservant) I would dearly love to be able to annotate my manual (or indeed ddial cheat-sheet if I can find a way to get $10 to the US that doesnt more than double the cost) with short-cuts. 3) Anyone care to recommend a good commercially available electric piano sample? I'm sure there must be several out there but have not noticed any reviews (see caveat in item #2 again!). I wanna turn my kb+EPS into a Fender Rhodes! As usual, thanks to all you folk for sharing your knowledge and experience, and apologies if these questions are dumb and/or have recently been answered. Andy Spiceley a.spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk (+44) 344 424842 or 734 787181 From Ensoniq.COM!bill Wed Oct 28 08:57:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 08:56 PST Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM (4.1/mls/3.3.v2) id AA06164; Wed, 28 Oct 92 11:56:47 EST Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA03101; Wed, 28 Oct 92 11:55:37 EST Message-Id: <9210281655.AA03101@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA02498; Wed, 28 Oct 92 11:50:31 EST Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 11:50:31 EST From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: ASR10 disk format tidbit Andrew Studer asks... >Just a quick question: is the disk format of the ASR10 compatible >with the older EPS/ EPS16+ formats? The ASR can read all EPS and EPS-16 plus disks. When it loads banks, sequences, or effects, it converts them to ASR banks, sequences, or effects. When it saves them again, the EPS cannot see them any longer. When it saves instruments, however, they are still the same file type as EPS instruments, and are therefore visible to an EPS. The EPS will not be able to play the ASR-10 instrument's effect, however. I it puts reverb on it instead. The actual low-level disk formats that the ASR-10 supports are: 800K double-density ("computer compatible" does not use sector 0) 880K double-density (EPS/EPS-16 PLUS/SD-1, uses sector 0) 1.44M quad-density ("computer compatible' does not use sector 0) 1.60M quad-density (ASR-10, uses sector 0) "Computer compatible" means that PC's and Macs that can read PC disks can access all the sectors on the disk. The directory structure is still Ensoniq DOS, not IBM-PC DOS. From rsinc.com!keith Wed Oct 28 09:34:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.5.156.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:34 PST Received: by gateway.rsinc.com (rsinc-gateway.920524) Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:10:45 MST Return-Path: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:10:45 MST From: Keith R. Crosley Message-Id: <9210281710.AA00790@gateway.rsinc.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR-10 Review (long) Due to popular demand, I'm posting a review of the new ASR-10 sampling keyboard. (Resounding chorus of huzzahs from the assembled throng.) I'm assuming some familiarity with the EPS and EPS 16+ here, so this review might be kinda cryptic to the unilluminated. Such is life. Executive Summary Buy one. Buy my sounds for it (first set of Synth sounds should be available in a few weeks). General Impressions Look, it's awesome, OK? The sound quality is *extremely* high, even at the 30KHz playback rate. There is no detectable noise floor with the volume cranked up all the way. Of course, this was pretty much the situation with the EPS 16+. You get 21 voices at 44KHz, 31 voices at 30KHz. The included demos and sample library (8 HD disks) leave something to be desired. This is good news for sound developers (like me), but bad news for Joe Consumer. Get your dealer to give you copies of the original EPS 16+ library! The new aluminum case is very nice, but it makes the unit rather heavy. Note that dimensions of the new case are larger than the EPS 16+ (i.e., if you need a carrying case, you need a *new* one). The front panel is cooler looking, but essentially the same as the one on the EPS 16+ (with the additions described below). The effects are way cool, very versatile. Some people are going to complain that there aren't more parallel-type effects, but I bet Mr. Waveboy isn't going to complain, hm? :) Sampling There are two sampling rates: 30 KHz and 44KHz. You can sample from a variety of sources: * From the inputs: Left, right, or both at the same time. * From the MAIN OUT bus: Left, right, or both at the same time. This allows you to sample your playing, the sequencer, or perform resampling with the effects. * Sampling from the inputs can be DRY (no effects) or through the current effects algorithm. The sample rate is determined by the currently-selected effect. (e.g., if you have the machine in 44KHz mode, your sample rate is 44KHz). Sampling both the left and right signals creates a (surprise, surprise) stereo sample. The left sample goes into an odd layer and the right sample goes into an even layer. These layers are then "layer locked" together for wavesample editing, though you can turn the layer lock off and edit them individually if you so need. There are 4 dedicated lights that monitor the input levels all the time. Little green ones pulse to show that you're getting signal. Red ones light up when you're 6dB away from max level. There's an input trim pot and a mic/line switch on the back of the unit for adjusting the sample input level. These replace the software level bar that you had on the EPS 16+. (Before you sample, you do see this bar in the multi-segment LED, but it does not respond as well as the one in the EPS 16+ OS does -- use the dedicated input monitors instead when setting levels). When you start sampling, the remaining sampling time is counted down in the multi-segment LED. Sources appearing at the input can be run through the effects at any time. The two "Audio Track" buttons A and B are just like extra instruments -- you can set their volume levels, pan position, and which bus each of them use. Instead of playing samples, however, they play whatever is present at the left/right inputs. Operating System The OS is basically the same as that in the EPS 16+. My version says 1.0. Differences between ASR 1.0 OS and EPS 16+ OS 1.3 include: * Time compression/expansion. This is a COMMAND-WAVE function. You can compress to 50%, expand to 250% with varying amounts of quality (0-99 scale). This feature takes a *long* time. I don't really understand what takes so long. You're just dropping/adding samples, no? Seems like the DOC chip does a lot more just to give you a nice reverb... but what do I know... * RANDOM modulation is now called NOISE modulation. * Sequencer display is slightly different. Shows bar and beat within the bar when recording. * RESAMPLE WITH EFFECT is gone, replaced by sampling from the MAIN OUT bus as described below. * Stereo left/right samples are linked together via "layer lock" feature. The synth architecture remains the same, however envelopes are now done in hardware. This should eliminate "zippering" noise that can sometimes occur with software envelopes. Memory Expansion Memory in the base unit is 2 Megabytes (1 Megaword) provided by 2, 1Meg SIMMS. Memory can be expanded to 2 Megawords (4 1M SIMMS), 4 Megawords (2 4M SIMMS), 5 Megawords (2 4M and 2 1M SIMMS), or 8 Megawords (4 4M SIMMS -- that's what I put in mine :)). It's an easy, do-it-yerself thing, of course. Disk Drive The disk drive is high density and can read low-density EPS and EPS 16+ disks. An HD disk can be formatted to hold 1.6 megs. Disks can also be formatted using the "COMPUTER" option (i.e., 1.44 megs) for easy reading by PCs. Will Ensoniq be publishing utilities??? You can play the keyboard while loading new samples from the disk drive. Playing while saving to the disk, however, seems to result in cut-off notes. I never had this problem with my EPS 16+. This isn't a huge issue to me, but it would be nice if the "problem" could be fixed in a future OS release. Effects Algorithms The effects chip in the ASR is the latest reversion of the Ensoniq DOC chip (DOC IV or OTTO -- anyone know what that means?). This is either the same chip used in the DP/4 or a *very* close relative. The new algorithms seem to be "ported" directly from the DP/4. Below is a list of all the algorithms in the unit. Note that the first 13 are identical to the original EPS 16+ effects: HALL REVERB 44KHZ REVERB ROOM REVERB DUAL DELAYS 44KHZ DELAYS CHORUS+REVRB PHASER+REVRB FLANGER+REV ROT. SPKR+REV CHOR+REV+DDL CMP+DIST+REV DIST+CHO+REV WAH+DIST+REV New ones: SMALL ROOM LARGE ROOM HALL REVERB2 SMALL PLATE LARGE PLATE REVRSE REVRB REVRSE REVRB2 GATED REVERB NLIN REVRB 1 NLIN REVRB 2 NLIN REVRB 3 MULTITAP DDL EQ+DELAY LFO VCF+DISTORT GUITAR AMP1 GUITAR AMP2 GUITAR AMP3 SPKR CABINET TUNABLE SPKR EQ+CHOR+DDL EQ+VIBR+DDL EQ+FLNGR+DDL EQ+TREM+DDL PHASER+DDL 8-VOICE CHOR PITCH SHIFT PITCH+DDL FAST PITCHSH EQ+COMPRESSOR EXPANDER KEYED EXPANDER INVRS EXPANDER DE-ESSER DUCKER RUMBLE FILTR PARAM EQ VAN DER POL Except for the ones explicitly marked 44KHZ, all the effects provide 31 voice polyphony with a playback rate of 30kHZ. All of the effects have 4 "variations" just like on the EPS 16+. There are still 3 buses for effects routing. The sound on the effects is (as expected) excellent. Except for the stuff that's supposed to be noisy (amp and speaker simulators), I haven't noticed any significant noise-floor difference between the "no-effect" settings and having the effects turned on. Perhaps just one exception to this: with PITCH+DDL, I noticed the faintest amount of low-frequency pumping with the volume turned up all the way -- I assume this is the sound of the base noise floor being pitch shifted up and down and DDL'ed. Upgrades SCSI should be available within a month. Last I heard, a price for this option had not been set. It *is* different from the EPS and EPS 16+ upgrade in that the new SCSI port is opto-isolated from the rest of the unit -- a very good idea. Digital I/O, via the RCA jacks on the back panel will be available as an option. From the manual: "The Digital Output will provide digital audio ouput of the Main Output mix -- when the current Effect uses a 44.1KHz sample rate -- and can also be used for backing-up a SCSI storage device to a DAT Recorder equipped with digital Inputs. The Digital Input can be used for sampling from an external digital audio source and for restoring a DAT backup of an SCSI storage device. The Digital Input and Output conforms to the consumer AES/EBU digital I/O standard." A rack-mount version of the ASR should be available in December. ASR versus Kurzweil K2000 One of the big questions in rec.music.synth seems to be: Should you buy an ASR-10, or a K2000? Effects in the ASR are better and it does stereo sampling TODAY. I dunno. I like Ensoniq stuff, myself. I also like the 8-layer architecture. The ASR is a formidible synth... Maybe there's someone on the list who owns both and could do a comparison? Conclusion Buy one, I did! Buy my ASR sounds when they come out! Spend money! Mortgage the house, sell the kids! Get that global economy MOVING, honey! Seriously, the ASR is a very nice keyboard and a good value. Think about what a comparably-equipped Fairlight or Synclavier cost just 5 years ago... the mind boggles. All-in-all, I'm glad I upgraded from my EPS 16+. From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Wed Oct 28 13:54:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 13:54 PST Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Wed, 28 Oct 92 15:54:09 -0600 id AA28211 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Wed, 28 Oct 92 15:53:52 -0600 id AA05503 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 15:47:38 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: EPS panel operation / e-pno sample recommendation needed To: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <"6826*/I=A/S=Spiceley/OU=poda/O=icl/PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >1) I'm sure this is a really dumb question but what the hell.. >Just how do you use the "direct dial" mode of operation? When I do the >button pushes for ddialling given in the manual, the effect of pushing one >of the number pad keys always seems to be to select a different page. Is >there some magic "hold down button A whilst..." to this? You have to hit the sequence of keys fairly quick. Instead of going "press....press....press" you have to go *whack-whack-whack*. The only hold-while-pressing key combo I know of is Load-No to delete a file. Are there more? Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu!ucosmo Wed Oct 28 16:13:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 16:12 PST Received: from mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA26160 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Wed, 28 Oct 92 16:12:24 PST for eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <9210290012.AA26160@hub.ucsb.edu> Received: by mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (16.6/MCL.UCSB-HP-16.5) id AA23727; Wed, 28 Oct 92 16:10:59 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 16:10:59 -0800 From: Boris Burtin To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sampling rates Up to now, I have been sampling everything at 44.1kHz. Now, a strange thought has struck me. If I always play my EPS-16 in the 20 voice/30kHz mode, isn't that a waste of space? Should I be sampling at 29.8, or is there really a difference between 29.8 and 44.1? Also, what are the best filter settings? I notice that the default is 1/2 of your sample rate, to weed out aliasing. - Boris From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Wed Oct 28 16:46:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 16:46 PST Received: from sounds.UUCP by nwnexus.wa.com with UUCP id AA02665 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Wed, 28 Oct 1992 16:39:05 -0800 Received: by sounds. (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA04509; Wed, 28 Oct 92 15:49:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 15:49:37 -0800 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9210282349.AA04509@sounds.> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Subject: Re: EPS panel operation | >1) I'm sure this is a really dumb question but what the hell.. | >Just how do you use the "direct dial" mode of operation? When I do the | >button pushes for ddialling given in the manual, the effect of pushing one | >of the number pad keys always seems to be to select a different page. Is | >there some magic "hold down button A whilst..." to this? | | You have to hit the sequence of keys fairly quick. Instead of going | "press....press....press" you have to go *whack-whack-whack*. | The only hold-while-pressing key combo I know of is Load-No to delete a | file. Are there more? | | Muff | smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu = MuffinHed@aol.com If an Instrument has MIDI output enabled, you can send a patch change by holding down the Instrument-Track button and typing the decimal patch change number. The message is sent on the Instrument channel or the Global EPS MIDI channel, depending upon the System MIDI setting. This is really handy for controlling rack-mounted or otherwise hard-to-reach MIDI devices. Even if the device doesn't listen to MIDI notes, such as a MIDI effects device like my A.R.T. MultiVerb, you can create an Instrument with an unreachable Keyboard Range (either above or below the EPS keyboard's keys), assign the proper MIDI channel, and select patches without disturbing your Instruments which are assigned to the EPS keyboard. This is for the Classic, I cannot say if Ensoniq has changed this for the newer models, but I doubt they would have. --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software NeXTmail welcome - NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission From mailhost.cs.pdx.edu!tauren Wed Oct 28 17:52:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.252.20.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 17:51 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu (cs.pdx.edu) by pdxgate.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-gateway-evision: 1.27 id AA24427; Wed, 28 Oct 92 17:51:30 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by rigel.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-client-evision: 1.21 id AA01712; Wed, 28 Oct 92 18:55:04 PPE Message-Id: <9210290155.AA01712@rigel.cs.pdx.edu> To: Brian Willoughby Cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List), tauren@mailhost.cs.pdx.edu Subject: Re: EPS panel operation In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 28 Oct 92 15:49:37 -0800. <9210282349.AA04509@sounds.> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 17:55:02 PST From: tauren@mailhost.cs.pdx.edu I found this in a message you wrote some time ago: > >| You have to hit the sequence of keys fairly quick. Instead of going >| "press....press....press" you have to go *whack-whack-whack*. >| The only hold-while-pressing key combo I know of is Load-No to delete a >| file. Are there more? >| To delete an instrument from one of the eight track buttons, simply hold down the track number button, and hit 'NO'. I can't think of any other obvious ones. Tauren> >| Muff From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Oct 28 19:33:58 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 19:33 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA23922; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 14:32:34 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12408; Thu, 29 Oct 92 11:30:56 WST Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 11:30:56 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9210290330.AA12408@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: RE: Keyboard pannel etc >I found this in a message you wrote some time ago: >> >>| You have to hit the sequence of keys fairly quick. Instead of going >>| "press....press....press" you have to go *whack-whack-whack*. >>| The only hold-while-pressing key combo I know of is Load-No to delete a >>| file. Are there more? >>| > >To delete an instrument from one of the eight track buttons, simply hold >down the track number button, and hit 'NO'. I can't think of any other >obvious ones. >Tauren> A quick (sometimes) way to delete all the instruments in memory is to select [COMMAND][SYSTEM] "MIDI SYSEX RECODRDER" [YES] The EPS then asks to erase memory [YES] then press [CANCEL/NO] and it forgets about sys-exing and you have a clean slate. Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth [32S, 116E]--> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Oct 28 19:35:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 19:34 PST Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA24163; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 14:34:22 +1100 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12435; Thu, 29 Oct 92 11:32:46 WST Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 11:32:46 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9210290332.AA12435@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Wishing again... Talking about starting with a clean slate with an Ensoniq sampler, it would be nice to have a "soft-reboot" or "Clear All" function, to erase all memory and set you ready to start again....well it would for me at least :-) Scott. From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Wed Oct 28 21:45:12 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 21:44 PST Received: from sounds.UUCP by nwnexus.wa.com with UUCP id AA07347 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Wed, 28 Oct 1992 21:37:52 -0800 Received: by sounds. (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA05209; Wed, 28 Oct 92 20:50:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 20:50:18 -0800 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9210290450.AA05209@sounds.> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Subject: Re: Wishing again... | Talking about starting with a clean slate with an Ensoniq sampler, | it would be nice to have a "soft-reboot" or "Clear All" function, | to erase all memory and set you ready to start again....well it | would for me at least :-) | | Scott. I can't remember the issue, but Ensoniq responded to this request from another user in the Interface. They said that due to the design of the DOC (Digital Oscillator Chip), there is no way to completely reset the system and synchronize everything (like the 6800 processor reading the keys, the DOC and the main 68000) without power-cycling. Of course, I think they should either redesign the hardware to add this ability - or at least redesign their OS so that you don't need to :-) --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software NeXTmail welcome - NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission From Bern.DoCS.UU.SE!bqt Thu Oct 29 02:23:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.36.125.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 29 Oct 92 02:22 PST Received: from Bern.DoCS.UU.SE by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA01753; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 11:22:48 +0100 Received: by Bern.DoCS.UU.SE (Sun-4/75, SunOS 4.1.1) with sendmail 5.61-bind 1.5+ida/ICU/DoCS id AA05206; Thu, 29 Oct 92 11:22:47 +0100 From: Johnny Billquist Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 11:22:44 MET Reply-To: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se To: tauren@cs.pdx.edu Cc: Brian Willoughby , eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List), tauren@cs.pdx.edu Subject: Re: EPS panel operation In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 28 Oct 92 17:55:02 PST Message-Id: >I found this in a message you wrote some time ago: >> >>| You have to hit the sequence of keys fairly quick. Instead of going >>| "press....press....press" you have to go *whack-whack-whack*. >>| The only hold-while-pressing key combo I know of is Load-No to delete a >>| file. Are there more? >>| > >To delete an instrument from one of the eight track buttons, simply hold >down the track number button, and hit 'NO'. I can't think of any other >obvious ones. >Tauren> >>| Muff > Two more comes to my mind immediately: Select an instrument. Press an empty instrument button and hit YES to copy the selected instrument to the empty selection. While showing a file, press LOAD and hit NO to delete the file. Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus CS student at Uppsala University || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt@minsk.docs.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Oct 29 05:46:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 29 Oct 92 05:45 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA25395; Thu, 29 Oct 92 08:43:14 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AF015A5@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 29 Oct 92 08:47:33 Subject: Re: EPS panel operation / e-pno sample To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 08:47:00 Message-Id: <2AF015A5@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 35 TEXT If you hit "YES"+a blank instument button, you'll copy the currently selected insturment to the blank track. "NO"+Occupied Insturment Button will delete the selected insturment. It's best to do this when you are in COMMAND or EDIT mode because sometimes if you're in LOAD mode, the board will switch insturment layering modes instead of copying or deleting the insturment. It's not harmful, but it does require a few extra keystrokes to put it back into the right non-layerd configuration. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REPLY FROM: Winer, Greg Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 15:47:38 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: EPS panel operation / e-pno sample recommendation needed To: eps@reed.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >1) I'm sure this is a really dumb question but what the hell.. >Just how do you use the "direct dial" mode of operation? When I do the >button pushes for ddialling given in the manual, the effect of pushing one >of the number pad keys always seems to be to select a different page. Is >there some magic "hold down button A whilst..." to this? You have to hit the sequence of keys fairly quick. Instead of going "press....press....press" you have to go *whack-whack-whack*. The only hold-while-pressing key combo I know of is Load-No to delete a file. Are there more? Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Thu Oct 29 08:12:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 29 Oct 92 08:12 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA25511; Thu, 29 Oct 92 10:35:11 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AF02FE2@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Thu, 29 Oct 92 10:39:30 Subject: EPS Alternate Software To: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 92 10:38:00 Message-Id: <2AF02FE2@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 3 TEXT What are the different types of software and sources for the regular EPS? Does anyone have a good listing they could send out? From kurango.cit.gu.edu.au!richard Thu Oct 29 16:14:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.234.5.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 29 Oct 92 16:13 PST Received: by kurango.cit.gu.edu.au id AA16313 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 30 Oct 1992 10:16:21 +1000 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 10:16:21 +1000 From: richard hagen Message-Id: <199210300016.AA16313@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS Panel Operation I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the use of macros. Hold down LOAD and push the numeric keys. Release LOAD - dropped straight into a different directory or drive. Not restricted to use on HDs, but floppies don't tend to have that much structure. richard From friskie.WPI.EDU!wrm Fri Oct 30 06:17:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.215.16.63 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 06:16 PST Received: by friskie.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00520; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 08:32:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9210281332.AA00520@friskie.WPI.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: RE: ASR-10 poll Date: Wed, 28 Oct 92 08:32:25 -0500 From: wrm@friskie.WPI.EDU X-Mts: smtp > So, how many ASR users are there on the list now? I'll fess up. I've had it for exactly a week now. No mechanical problems, and the hardware seems in good shape. There are a few bugs in the manuals, but it seems like many of the "problems" are my lack of familiarity with the predecessor EPS 16+. I have crashed it (once) and saw the "new" Error 122- Reboot ? message! I am experiencing a sporadic problem that warrants description. Occasionally (2 or 3 times in the last week), the display will start to flicker. If I go into command mode when I see this the options on the command pages will cycle by on autopilot. Rebooting solves the problem. If anyone else sees this, or better yet can reproduce it, please let me know. > In fact, you should BUY AN ASR NOW, NOW, NOW! I second the motion! I walked into the music store when I first heard about to ASR-10, determined to buy a steeply discounted EPS-16+ (I'd been planning to get one for a while). The guy said he'd give me an ASR for only a couple of hundred more so I went for it. Been having a blast ever since!!! -Bill From friskie.WPI.EDU!wrm Fri Oct 30 06:32:57 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.215.16.63 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 06:31 PST Received: by friskie.WPI.EDU (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01667; Fri, 30 Oct 1992 09:31:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 09:31:49 -0500 From: wrm@friskie.WPI.EDU (William Michalson) Message-Id: <9210301431.AA01667@friskie.WPI.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS-reference books? There's been a lot of traffic about "how to xxx with the EPS." Has anyone out there compiled and/or published a well-written description of all the EPS features and functions? Bill From essex.ecn.uoknor.edu!cmparris Fri Oct 30 09:09:28 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.15.24.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 09:08 PST Received: by kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu id AA05612 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 30 Oct 1992 11:08:13 -0600 From: Chris Michael Parrish Message-Id: <199210301708.AA05612@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Subject: Soundhack To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:08:12 CST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Could someone tell me what the Soundhack program available for ftp on nextweek.reed.edu does? I am having problems when I download it, it seems that my end thinks the file is incomplete (can't deBINHEX it....) -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Chris Parrish | University of Oklahoma | "To share is to split..." cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu | - KMFDM _______________________________________________________________________________ From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Fri Oct 30 10:45:12 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 10:44 PST Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <00674-0@pat.uio.no>; Fri, 30 Oct 1992 19:44:39 +0100 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Fri, 30 Oct 1992 19:44:35 +0100 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 19:44:35 +0100 Message-Id: <9210301844.AAfidibus00579@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Subject: Re: Soundhack Chris Michael Parrish writes: > Could someone tell me what the Soundhack program available for ftp on >nextweek.reed.edu does? There is a later version of SoundHack. We should upload that. It is utilities for soundfiles for Mac computers. It converts between formats ( 8 but lin, ulaw, 16 bit lin, float) for those that operates with these number formats out of the file types: AudioIFF, Audiomedia, Sound Designer II. IRCAM. It will also perform simple manupulation on the soundfile like convolution, phase vocoding, gain change and binaural spatial filtering. > I am having problems when I download it, it seems that >my end thinks the file is incomplete (can't deBINHEX it....) I have secessfully downloaded it before, so I don't know why you have problems. Try to track down the latest version. It is available at "better ftp places everywhere" tgf From pcocd2.intel.com!dcovell Fri Oct 30 11:45:35 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 143.185.65.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:44 PST Received: from [132.233.124.58] by hermes.intel.com (5.65/10.0i); Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:43:20 -0800 Received: from frx750 by pcocd2 (4.1/FES-SMTP-gateway-version-4-20-92) id AA09736; Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:40:53 PST From: dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com (David Covell - EPG) Received: by frx750 (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/SCDT-RS6000) id AA21133; Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:40:44 GMT Message-Id: <9210301140.AA21133@frx750> Subject: Sorry about this... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 11:40:43 CUT Reply-To: dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] My sincere apologies for posting an admin thing to the entire group, but I've lost the admin address. Please unsubscribe me. One final post; I'm still looking for a source of high-quality orchestral samples for my EPS Classic. I'd like some specific recommendations, since i'm reluctant to buy samples blindly. I'm considering Prosonus and Voice Crystal and would like ffedback on them and pointers to other sources. My primary needs are for orchestral, keyboards, and pads. Please respond by private email, since I'll be unsubscribed. Thanks, and so long, dcovell@pcocd2.intel.com From rsinc.com!keith Fri Oct 30 12:41:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.5.156.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 12:41 PST Received: by gateway.rsinc.com (rsinc-gateway.920524) Fri, 30 Oct 92 13:41:24 MST Return-Path: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 13:41:24 MST From: Keith R. Crosley Message-Id: <9210302041.AA01583@gateway.rsinc.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ASR-10 bugs, etc. Bill sez: >I have crashed it (once) and saw the "new" Error 122- Reboot ? message! I *haven't* seen this yet, but I have had a problem that seems to occur when playing the keyboard while loading a bank. Sometimes, the disk seems to stop reading and just spins forever until being rebooted. No error message... Also, I have had an instrument load improperly such that the "loaded" and selected lights came on, but no name for the instrument would appear in the display. The instrument would not play and there was no way to de-select the instrument (the lights just stayed on). Oddly enough, I could set the master volume for this non-instrument. Have only seen this once. One other thing: There seems to be no graceful way to exit from a TIME COMPRESS/EXPAND command. Hitting the Cancel button during processing stops the function (which can take a VERY long time), but nukes the original wavesample. I haven't seen Bill's cycling command page problem, though. --- Keith From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Fri Oct 30 13:21:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 13:21 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA27150; Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:19:12 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AF1D206@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:23:34 Subject: ASR-10 bugs, etc. To: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:23:00 Message-Id: <2AF1D206@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 8 TEXT "...I haven't seen Bill's cycling command page problem, though." -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- It sounds like a stuck "ARROW" key IMHO. - Gregory From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Fri Oct 30 13:24:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 13:24 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA27158; Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:22:11 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AF1D2B9@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:26:33 Subject: Bugs, Bugs and more Bugs To: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:26:00 Message-Id: <2AF1D2B9@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 8 TEXT While we're on the topic of bugs, I noticed a new bug in the new V2.49 for the original EPS. Sometimes when you hit the "SAMPLE" key while there are other insturments loaded, and there is a insturment file on your O.S. floppy, the EPS will load that insturment and put the board into sampling mode on the blank insturment button you select...Since even Ensoniq doesn't know what the new O.S. disk fixes, let alone what new features it adds, I can't tell if this is really a bug or some quirky new feature. From ibm4381.onet.edu!gwiner%UTCADMIN Fri Oct 30 13:27:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.110.8.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 13:27 PST Received: from OSCS_MAIL_GATE ([141.110.8.16]) by cognomen.onet.edu (5.59/1.34) id AA27162; Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:25:09 EST From: gwiner%UTCADMIN@ibm4381.onet.edu Received: by OSCS_MAIL_GATE with Network-Courier id <2AF1D36B@OSCS_MAIL_GATE>; Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:29:31 Subject: Question To: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 16:29:00 Message-Id: <2AF1D36B@OSCS_MAIL_GATE> X-Mailer: Network Courier V2.1a Encoding: 4 TEXT I realize that I'm probably inviting a slew of E-mail, but can anyone tell me if my posts are getting out? I'm not too sure. Thanks! From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Fri Oct 30 14:05:57 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 14:05 PST Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2625>; Fri, 30 Oct 1992 17:05:10 -0500 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Cartoon samples? MIDI Sys-Ex info? Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 17:05:02 -0500 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Oct30.170510est.2625@groucho.cs.psu.edu> If anyone has either cartoon sound samples, or MIDI sys-ex info on/for the EPS Classic, would you either send them here, or to nextweek? --- Mike From mailhost.cs.pdx.edu!tauren Fri Oct 30 18:20:45 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.252.20.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 18:20 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu (cs.pdx.edu) by pdxgate.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-gateway-evision: 1.27 id AA06999; Fri, 30 Oct 92 18:20:00 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by rigel.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-client-evision: 1.21 id AA26482; Fri, 30 Oct 92 19:19:56 PPE Message-Id: <9210310219.AA26482@rigel.cs.pdx.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sample clicks, etc... Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 18:19:55 PST From: tauren@mailhost.cs.pdx.edu Once again I have sampled something that I want to truncate in the middle of my sample and get a loud "TICK" at the end of playback. I believe I understand why this happens, but was hoping someone could explain how to remove the sound. Should I use some sort of fade, or what? Now if I had a sample editor for the EPS 16+ on my PC running in Windows, this would be easy. Anyone know of any? Thanks for your help! Tauren From mailhost.cs.pdx.edu!tauren Fri Oct 30 18:25:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.252.20.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 18:25 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu (cs.pdx.edu) by pdxgate.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-gateway-evision: 1.27 id AA07100; Fri, 30 Oct 92 18:24:57 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by rigel.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-client-evision: 1.21 id AA26575; Fri, 30 Oct 92 19:24:54 PPE Message-Id: <9210310224.AA26575@rigel.cs.pdx.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sampling rate Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 18:24:54 PST From: tauren@mailhost.cs.pdx.edu Another question, Someone asked a while ago if sampling at 44Khz was wasteful if he was going to use 30 note polyphany (sp?). So is sampling at 44Khz on an EPS 16+ wasteful if I am going to use 21 note polyphany? Will I really be playing the samples back at 30Khz or not? If someone answered this question already and I just missed it, let me know. Thanks Tauren From essex.ecn.uoknor.edu!cmparris Fri Oct 30 19:46:33 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.15.24.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 19:46 PST Received: by kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu id AA02762 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 30 Oct 1992 21:45:59 -0600 From: Chris Michael Parrish Message-Id: <199210310345.AA02762@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Subject: Help woi[D with FTP sample trandsfer To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 21:45:58 CST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I've been trying to FTP some of the EPS disks available on nextweek.reed.edu and have come across several problems.... First I managed to get several of the PC utilities: epsutil, epswrite, epsread, and gkh2img. Both epswrite and epsread lock my machine when I run them, so I have been using epsutil. After several attempts at getting an FTP'd image to an EPS disk, I tried reading one of my own EPS disk (which worked...) and writing it back to another EPS disk (which did not work). I tells me that the file has a 0000 block size and that the disk is 1600. The explore utility works just fine, and both disks verify as good EPS disks. In another attempt, I tried using aDownloader for the mac, but it refuses to recognize my EPS disks....(and I'm sure I was using an 1.44 drive...) Could someone give me a hand here, and suggest something I am doing improperly? And could someone tell me what the gkh2img.exe program does? And lastly could someone suggest why files in my unix directory will not show up when I acess them by a networked PC? I've made sure that the names are 8 characters with 3 letter extensions, but they only show up if they are saved to the unix directory by the PC first...this really complicates the FTP process because I have to go to one of the mac's to FTP, then use Apple File exchange to put it on an MS-DOS disk and carry it to a PC.... I'm really anxious to try some of these sounds out, but I'm going crazy trying to get this to work.... -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Chris Parrish | University of Oklahoma | "To share is to split..." cmparris@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu | - KMFDM _______________________________________________________________________________ From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Fri Oct 30 21:31:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 21:31 PST Received: from sounds.UUCP by nwnexus.wa.com with UUCP id AA26047 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 30 Oct 1992 21:27:43 -0800 Received: by sounds. (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA06179; Fri, 30 Oct 92 20:22:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 20:22:47 -0800 From: Brian Willoughby Message-Id: <9210310422.AA06179@sounds.> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Subject: Re: Sampling rate Cc: tauren@cs.pdx.edu | Someone asked a while ago if sampling at 44Khz was wasteful if he | was going to use 30 note polyphany (sp?). So is sampling at 44Khz | on an EPS 16+ wasteful if I am going to use 21 note polyphany? | Will I really be playing the samples back at 30Khz or not? Samples only play back at their original sample rate when you play the Root Key. For a sample made at 30 KHz, if you play any note higher than 6 half steps (the "devil's interval" or augmented fourth) above the Root Key, you'll be accessing memory at 44 KHz. The EPS output circuitry will still convert the audio to 30 KHz, but it will do a better job of converting if it has more information for interpolation. This especially becomes an issue for single-sample instruments where one sample is spread out across the entire keyboard. Many samplers cannot play a sample any higher than about 4 half steps above the original sample rate, the EPS will let you do it, but the quality suffers a little unless you start with a sample made at a higher rate. Most of the preceeding is conjecture, I haven't actually put a logic analyser on the EPS circuitry to verify this... If you're wondering about my computations, 44 KHz is 1.46 times as fast as 30 KHz. A perfect fifth would be 1.5 times the Root Key, and an equal tempered fifth (7 half steps) is 1.49830707665 times the Root Key, so that is slightly more than 1.46 (6 half steps is only 1.4142135622 times the Root Key). Equal tempered tuning is based upon each of the twelve tones being the "twelfth-root of two" times the preceeding half step, such that an octave works out to exactly double speed. The "twelfth-root of two" is 1.05946309434, or a 5.9% change in pitch. --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software NeXTmail welcome - NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission From umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu!smills Fri Oct 30 22:44:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.255.1.3 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 22:44 PST Received: from umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu by ns-mx.uiowa.edu (5.64.jnf/920408) on Sat, 31 Oct 92 00:44:06 -0600 id AA15747 with SMTP Received: by umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (5.61.jnf/920629) on Sat, 31 Oct 92 00:43:51 -0600 id AA07670 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 00:39:15 -0600 (CST) From: MuffinHead Subject: Re: Help woi[D with FTP sample trandsfer To: Chris Michael Parrish Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <199210310345.AA02762@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1992, Chris Michael Parrish wrote: > I've been trying to FTP some of the EPS disks available on nextweek.reed.edu > and have come across several problems.... >... > In another attempt, I tried using aDownloader for the mac, but it refuses > to recognize my EPS disks....(and I'm sure I was using an 1.44 drive...) I've had problems with aDownloader too. The color version crashes on my IIci as soon as I insert the disk. The B&W version works fine, but crashes after inserting the second disk of two. Also, the EPS locked up when trying to load the instruments. I'll have to try getting some different files from reed. Muff ___________________________________________________________________________ smills@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu -=<*>=- MuffinHed@aol.com From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Sun Nov 1 00:07:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 1 Nov 92 00:07 PST Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2613>; Sun, 1 Nov 1992 03:06:49 -0500 To: Chris Michael Parrish cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Help woi[D with FTP sample trandsfer In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Oct 92 22:45:58 EST." <199210310345.AA02762@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 03:06:45 -0500 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Nov1.030649est.2613@groucho.cs.psu.edu> I can tell you what the GKH2IMG program does (or tries to). It strips 58 bytes off of an GKH file, which is the size of an empty header (one that has no author or subject notes). It's a pretty crummy hack, but I haven't had time to properly incorporate GKH support into EPSUTIL. (sigh) the hazards of being a student (grin) But or GKH files, epswrite and epsread SHOULD work. If you are having trouble using them, make sure you have a good copy first (binary FTP and whatnot). --- Mike From kong.gsfc.nasa.gov!arensb Sun Nov 1 03:06:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.183.253.33 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 1 Nov 92 03:06 PST Received: from kong.gsfc.nasa.gov by lego.gsfc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.35) id AA04039; Sun, 1 Nov 92 06:06:03 -0500 Received: by kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11050; Sun, 1 Nov 92 06:06:00 EST Date: Sun, 1 Nov 92 06:06:00 EST From: arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Andrew Arensburger - RMS) Message-Id: <9211011106.AA11050@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> To: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: Cartoon samples? MIDI Sys-Ex info? Cc: eps@reed.edu > From mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Fri Oct 30 17:22:13 1992 > If anyone has either cartoon sound samples, or MIDI sys-ex info on/for the > EPS Classic, would you either send them here, or to nextweek? Sorry, no cartoon sound samples. You can get the MIDI SysEx spec for the EPS Classic directly from Ensoniq (ask for the EPS External Command Specification). My copy has a note that I scribbled on it, saying Customer Service: (215) 647-3930 Malvern, PA so you can call there and find out. Also, check out the EPS SysEx library on nextweek (I think it's called "epslib2.0.tar.Z" or some such). It's documentation in the sense that it's working code, so you can RTFS in case of doubt. If you're interested in porting it to the PC, please let me know. There's one file to change, and there are extensive notes on what to do, so it shouldn't be too hard for someone of your demonstrated abilities. -- Andrew Arensburger | Why can't I just say arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | perl -e '$]++' ...!uunet!dftsrv!kong!arensb | to upgrade to the next patch level?