From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Sep 7 00:06:28 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Sep 92 00:04 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA20162; Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:04:44 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10957; Mon, 7 Sep 92 15:03:14 WST Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 15:03:14 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9209070703.AA10957@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: OS 1.3 Heloooo....? Can someone out there upload 1.3 to nextweek.reed.edu? Thanks Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Sep 7 18:21:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 7 Sep 92 18:21 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA25781; Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:20:52 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12043; Tue, 8 Sep 92 09:19:21 WST Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 09:19:21 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9209080119.AA12043@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Samples and swapping... I have noticed that there has been a lack of sample uploads to nextweek.reed.edu has everyone stopped sampling or somethinng :-) Soooo....let's hear what a US toilet sounds like, Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ads.com!pdel Tue Sep 8 11:53:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:51 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA01798; Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:53:17 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA12381; Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:53:15 -0700 Message-Id: <9209081853.AA12381@deimos.ads.com> Subject: I got OS 1.3 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:53:11 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Yep, not more than 10 minutes ago in the mail.... When I get into work I'll gkh it and upload it. There's an 8-page update manual with it. If I was feeling expecially gratuitous today (and had some extra time) I'd copy the whole manual and send it too, but alas, for now, just the disk is coming. From ads.com!pdel Tue Sep 8 18:14:58 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:12 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA03962; Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:14:29 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA18581; Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:14:28 -0700 Message-Id: <9209090114.AA18581@deimos.ads.com> Subject: OS 1.3 for 16+ uploaded To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:14:27 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Okay, I put two copies of OS 1.3 on nextweek. In /pub/incoming. One is EPS1_3.GKH, 819k, for you ftp types w/hi density drives The other is EPS1_3.ZIP, which is the zipped version. It will unzip to EPS1_3.GKH, so you can then epswrite it to a disk. I didn't include a readme, so here is a BRIEF summary of the update manual BACKUP/RESTORE: cmd/system - scroll to BACKUP or RESTORE You can only backup SCSI devices w/id 0-7. You can backup to another HD, or floppies. Also removable carts. IMPO'TANT: When restoring, if it asks TRANSLATE SCSI x to y, answer yes, or your bank files won't be restored right. The OS disk includes a parallel effect algorithm ala the Waveboy Disk. To edit it, press Edit/Effects and pages 1-8 for the different parameters. And finally, the long awaited Bank Load feature: To load a Bank File, send the EPS a program change which is the Bank-File Number + 1, similar to instrument load, which is Instrument-File Number + 1. Well, that's it. Is there anyone out there not making music yet? If so, better just play the radio. PD out. From ualr.edu!jabussey Tue Sep 8 18:50:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:49 PDT Received: from odin.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:46 CDT Received: by UALR.EDU (MX V3.1) id 26911; Tue, 08 Sep 1992 20:45:24 EDT Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 20:45:10 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: EPS sample starter Kit Sender: jabussey@ualr.edu To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <00960540.09B374C0.26911@UALR.EDU> Could someone please tell me where I can find decompress for the PC(perfered) or Vax/Vms. Also I'd like to see a directory on NEXTWEEK.reed.edu called "starter" that would contain the necessary programs to uncompress the sample files ie: uncompress, unzip, epsread and write (I know read and write are on there now). Thanks in advance, Jacque Andre' Bussey From nu1.uh.cwru.edu!ellert Wed Sep 9 06:48:07 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.22.168.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 06:47 PDT Received: by nu1.uh.cwru.edu (MX V2.3-1) id 15707; Wed, 09 Sep 1992 09:47:32 EDT Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 09:47:32 EDT From: ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu To: EPS@REED.EDU Message-ID: <009605AD.55CB6DF0.15707@nu1.uh.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: EPS sample starter Kit Here are some anonymous ftp sites for software: VMS: gatekeeper.dec.com /pub/VMS has compress & uncompress among other things, read the archive.doc file in the root directory for info. according to archie, the following sites have uncompress for the ibm PC most likely they will have other things too. etlport.etl.go.jp /pub/ibmpc/distrib marlin.jcu.edu.au /ibmpc Of course, wuarchive.wustl.edu has just about everything if you can find it. -ee- P.S. The starter kit could be a great resource, but only if multiple systems are supported; a small administrative headache. Possibly an automatically updated list of sources would be better? From dcs.glasgow.ac.uk!wf Wed Sep 9 07:20:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 146.97.224.20 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 07:19 PDT Received: from vanuata.dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk) by central.cent; Wed, 9 Sep 92 15:17:03 BST From: Mr Bill Findlay Received: from woodlark.dcs.gla.ac.uk by vanuata.dcs.glasgow.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Sep 92 15:19:21 BST Received: by woodlark.dcs.gla.ac.uk (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/Dumb) id AA02627; Wed, 9 Sep 92 15:20:14 BST Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 15:20:14 BST Message-Id: <9209091420.AA02627@woodlark.dcs.gla.ac.uk> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.62) To: eps@reed.edu please unsubscribe me. ---- Bill From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Wed Sep 9 09:23:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 09:23 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <29665-0@pat.uio.no>; Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:22:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:21:48 +0200 Message-Id: <9209091621.AAfidibus19625@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: EPS sample starter Kit Jacque writes: >Could someone please tell me where I can find decompress for the PC(perfered) or >Vax/Vms. Also I'd like to see a directory on NEXTWEEK.reed.edu called "starter" >that would contain the necessary programs to uncompress the sample files ie: >uncompress, unzip, epsread and write (I know read and write are on there now). > On the specific question for your immidiate needs for your prefered computer: You can now find some of the programs you ask for at nextweek.reed.edu They are in directory: /pub/utils/ A program that do 'compress' ( adds .Z to filename) and uncompress ( removes .Z ) for the PC in that directory is called: comp430d.zip Programs that do 'unzip' and 'zip' for the PC, please correct me anyone if I'm wrong, are in the same direcory and are called: PKZIP.EXE.Z PKUNZIP.EXE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- My opinion on a "starter" directory (and related) is sort of A. That you or anyone else might as well ask the mailing list, as the first resource A special directory called "starter" would work well for some, but if I was a real starter I wouldnt know how to find that directory. I might not know how to ftp nor how to ftp-mail. I also believe that there are quite a few differences in interests:- What do they ( the starters on something) want to know , What do they want to do within the group, So if you made something that really covered all the things that was the first and second thing everyone wanted to know, and therefor would like to see in a directory named 'starter', then we would already have a pretty long list of information. It might escape the attention. B. Keeping track of the name of utilities for different platforms is a problem Unix compress and uncompress can be found for most computers that one could think of beeing used for sample tranfer I think. However there are already that many platforms that, if we were to keep versions for ALL machines/platforms at nextweek, a starter would have a real hard time to find the copy and version that suits his platform. Those are on the other hand essential tools, but it's much easier and better to just yell out into the ether, either in this group or other, asking for where to find a compressor for your platform. First one has to find out there is something called a compress/decompress tool, and thats just one of hundred prerequisits really. C. Is the material new subscribers recieve good enough? It is just a question and does not really apply to the 'thread' but is related. I think in answering this one has to consider the relatively large differences in interests and background ( which is exiting). Many newcomers expect they get the answers to most questions in their welcome letter. That would be impossible, but if someone really could give all the answers in advance there was no need for this mailing list. One could write a long 'welcome to the mailing list' book, people could have it and that was the end of the communication. Not a good idea that either.The procedure for DOWNloading of samples has certainly been written down on individual basis many times. Do the newcomers lack that info? speaking out into the galactic delay line... .. perhaps echoing back a galctic bounce .. tgf From ecn.purdue.edu!del Wed Sep 9 10:52:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 10:51 PDT Received: from localhost by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA03957; Wed, 9 Sep 92 12:50:58 -0500 Message-Id: <9209091750.AA03957@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: fess up... O.S. 1.3 Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 12:50:55 -0500 From: David A Whittemore i have had the new 16+ O.S. for a few weeks. rebooting (after the nice 129? error), i began a 7-instrument song. after creating 7 sequences or so, i thought that i would see how the hall reverb bank effect would sound, so i scrolled through the effects... when i got to hall reverb, mr O.S. says: "cannot download effect", with an appropriately dramatic click in my speakers. fuck. what? try it again, same thing. alright. so i wont use the hall verb. time to string the sequences into a song. insert sequences 1 -> 7, fine. now lets play the new song. error 129 - reboot? aw screw it, the song wasnt going anywhere anyway, but *i* would have liked to be the one to decide. WHAT DID THE NEW O.S. FIX? -david From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Wed Sep 9 17:47:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:46 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <09226-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:46:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:46:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9209100046.AAfidibus21167@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: mac ..aDownLoader Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no eps-nite I uploaded to incoming aDownLoader.sea It's a selfextracting archive containing a b/w and color version of the program and a readme file. No big changes, It can run 5-6 times faster, but I guess no one wants to try it anyhow so.. tgf From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Wed Sep 9 17:56:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:56 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <09268-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:56:39 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:56:34 +0200 Message-Id: <9209100056.AAfidibus21183@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: upload smpcalc1.gkh.Z Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no .. Scott Fisher was calling for a US toilet sample. I'm saving money so I can make a sample -so just have patience. In the meantime, maybe some of those toilets will sound a little different when the US guys flush them with these sounds I've uploaded. May be they want to know what they flush down their toilet? No? Only the presidents dirt is worth digging in? Well anyhow.. ========================================================================== Disk Name : smpcalc1.gkh.Z NAME SIZE COMMENTS ========================================================================== ETERNET HARP 35 Blks Originally part of a feedback guitar calculation Here programmed differently, maybe for harp parts? RING MY DING 64 Blks Synth with bell like attack GOOZ FANTAZY 35 Blks Goozy synth, what more to say? GIT 3 19 Blks Nylon String Guitar-Like Attack FLIMMER 1 35 Blks A loop with a few attacks and related pitches. PNO NOWAY 68 Blks Started out as calculation of Steinway? ANALIKE 11 237 Blks A little dull- no expression-straight banging on Reminds me of some analog things, basses? ZAXY 91.3 81 Blks Synth Sax like MONKEY SPOOK 273 Blks I used it for comping, but that's not obvious. Widely different patches with patch select switches HIZZ DRONE 81 Blks Background drone sound with industrial overtones brought forward by aftertouch on the lower register. Somewhat flute(or sea shell)like in middle registers. =========================================================================== All the samples are calculated without any acoustic reference. I've not made any elaborate instruments. These are more like sounds packaged as instruments; perhaps best suited as building blocks; that's how I use them. (I also normally don't save my instruments, only the raw material. I make the instrument suitable for a small passage of the music, I tape it and I throw it away:flush it down the toilet). All calculations are done with my own software package SMP (Sound Massage Parlor), thereby the name "smpcalc". You could also associate 'smp' with 'sample' if you prefer. A variety of algorithms and techniques have been used. No sensational sounds however, but you can make that yourself with these sounds as with many other by combining different samples and some suitable programming. That often yield something interesting, doesn't it?. There are no peculiar pitchtables "hidden" in the instruments. tgf From pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!OUACCVMB.BITNET!CLEARY Wed Sep 9 20:29:32 1992 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:CLEARY@OUACCVMB.BITNET> Received: from 128.112.129.99 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 20:29 PDT Message-Id: Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4625; Wed, 09 Sep 92 23:28:42 EDT Received: from OUACCVMB.BITNET (CLEARY) by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.09 ptf000) with BSMTP id 2878; Wed, 09 Sep 92 23:28:42 EDT Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 23:31:03 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Comment: CROSSNET mail via SMTP@INTERBIT Date: 9 September 92, 23:20:05 EST From: CLEARY at OUACCVMB To: EPS at REED.EDU Sub: Error Messages So just what *IS* Error #129 Reboot anyway. The 16+ does not corrolate message numbers with error messages. Anyone got a list? What good is an error number if you can't tell its cause? I guess it is quite unnecessary for the machine to tell you to Reboot, since the damn thing just sits there anyway. For once, I would just like to know why it just sits there, smiling because it just trashed 30 minutes of sequenced work, asking me if I want to Reboot. Hell no I don't want to reboot. I want to continue working where I left off. "NOT!!", it says, " You really want to Reboot. That's why I just trashed all your work. Error # 129. Quess what that means, FOOL.!!!" Well, maybe no one out there can help, but at least now I feel better. Thanks for listening, Cleary at Ouaccvbm.bitnet From compuserve.com!70661.2661 Wed Sep 9 21:42:32 1992 Return-Path: <70661.2661@compuserve.com> Received: from 149.174.128.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 21:42 PDT Received: by ihb.compuserve.com (5.65/5.910516) id AA15802; Thu, 10 Sep 92 00:42:20 -0400 Date: 10 Sep 92 00:36:10 EDT From: Simon Insect-o-cutor <70661.2661@CompuServe.COM> To: Subject: OS 1.3 problem Message-Id: <920910043610_70661.2661_DHJ57-3@CompuServe.COM> Hey EPSers, I just downloaded the 16+ OS 1.3 just anxious to be able to use the restore/backup feature, and I get it here ok, unzip it, epswrite it, and try it out: all of my intruments were cut down to about 1/3 amplitude, and no amount of adjusting instrument, ws, and track volumes would do anything. Switching through the effects didn't help out any either. I rebooted with OS 1.1 and sure enough everything is OK. Has anyone experienced this? Or is something wrong with the 1.3 that's uploaded? Sort of discouraging...if it matters I've got 1.0 ROMs and keyboard version 231. Anyone in the same boat? Regardss, Jay From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Sep 9 22:19:57 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:19 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2624>; Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:19:27 -0400 To: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU cc: eps@reed.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Sep 92 00:31:03 EDT." Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:19:25 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Sep10.011927edt.2624@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Somewhere in the digests of old communiques of this mailing list, someone DID post a list of error messages. If you don't feel like digging it out, I can see if I nuked my copy or not... BTW, the person who posted it claimed only to have seen three errors: 144, 32, and 128. Obviously, some people have seen 129 (odd address error), but I have been privy to the most astounding collection of errors (virtually every error from 128 to 144)... It seems my EPS Classic is suffering from the original Ensoniq-used-a-bad- connector keyboard problem. In addition, my slider has developed an oddity: it works fine, as long as I press down on it. As soon as I let up, the slider value goes to 0. Cute, but seriously annoying. Any repair advice? (I am in State College, PA, if it matters...) I'd just ship it and be done with the whole business, but I need to have it around, even if it takes half an hour to get it working. --- Mike From nu1.uh.cwru.edu!ellert Thu Sep 10 06:43:26 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.22.168.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:42 PDT Received: by nu1.uh.cwru.edu (MX V2.3-1) id 15756; Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:42:02 EDT Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:42:02 EDT From: ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu To: EPS@REED.EDU Message-ID: <00960675.BB50D250.15756@nu1.uh.cwru.edu> Subject: flush this Hi, With all the banter about sampling toilet flushes (had to be careful not to word that "toilet samples") I can't resist suggesting that a compilation of toilet flushes from around the world be made. Here in the U.S.A. there is a huge assortment of toilets, each with its own unique tonal qualities - we're talking circa 1950 baseball-stadium trough-urinal to high-tech water-efficient commodes; I suppose that those huge machines that empty Port-O-Pots could generate industrial flushing noises. Of course, you need professional flushists (musicians with toilet training) to ensure that the samples contain all the nuances only a virtuoso can provide. Then put all this together as the drum/percussion tracks of some house-music (yes, lots of plumbing) ... way cool! -ee- Member of the Free Association From horde Thu Sep 10 08:52:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:52 PDT Message-Id: To: Michael Chen cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Repost of Error messages... In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 10 Sep 92 01:19:25 EDT. <92Sep10.011927edt.2624@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:52:33 -0700 From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" In message <92Sep10.011927edt.2624@groucho.cs.psu.edu> you write: > Somewhere in the digests of old communiques of this mailing list, someone >DID post a list of error messages. If you don't feel like digging it out, I >can see if I nuked my copy or not... ---- begin included message ---- **************************************************************** EPS-DIGEST, volume 1, January - November, 1991 **************************************************************** Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1991 09:37:17 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9110300137.AA02743@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu I had to type this in for a friend who wanted it, so I thought I might as well send it to the eps group. It comes from TH and the original article was submitted by a friend of mine William Pont, who resides in South Africa (Pheonix sounds EPSQ80 stuff) the Netherlands and the USA depending on his mood. Error # 16 voice generator received unknown message 17 voice list corrupt 32 UART overrun 49 parser bad parameter type 56 memory allocation error GETBLOCK 57 memory allocation error FREEBLOCK 63 RAM error (main ram) 64 SCSI not connected 128 BUS error 129 odd address error 130 divide by zero error 131 illegal instruction error 132 CHK instruction error 133 TRAPV instruction error 134 privelege violation 135 TRACE error 136 line 1010 emulation error 137 line 1111 emulation error 138 spurious interrupt error 139 unused vector error 144 out of system buffers error. (pressing to many buttons too fast:-) 145 unknown sampling interrupt 192 unknown sequencer event 194 no more sequencer buffers. Errors #128-139 are typical 68000 microprocessor "exception errors" and are described in motorola manuals as fatal :-( I have only ever seen #'s 144, 32 and 128. Regards Scott. ---- end included message ---- How's that? -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) From sdcc13.UCSD.EDU!pskibitz Thu Sep 10 17:15:58 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.239.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:12 PDT Received: from sdcc13.ucsd.edu by ucsd.edu; id AA28568 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:12:25 -0700 for eps@reed.edu Received: by sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (5.60/UCSDGENERIC2) id AA19244 for eps@reed.edu; Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:12:32 PDT Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:12:32 PDT From: pskibitz@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Paul F A U S T !! ) Message-Id: <9209110012.AA19244@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SUBSCRIBE Could I please be subscribed to the EPS users group? (dont know if this is important, but I've got a 16+) -Paul FAUST! From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Thu Sep 10 18:25:05 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:24 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU with SMTP id AA18080 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:24:35 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA03006; Fri, 11 Sep 92 11:24:34 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9209110124.AA03006@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: flush this To: ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 11:24:33 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <00960675.BB50D250.15756@nu1.uh.cwru.edu>; from "ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu" at Sep 10, 92 9:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > Hi, > With all the banter about sampling toilet flushes (had to be > careful not to word that "toilet samples") I can't resist suggesting > that a compilation of toilet flushes from around the world be made. > Of course, you need professional flushists (musicians with > toilet training) to ensure that the samples contain all the nuances only > a virtuoso can provide. Then put all this together as the drum/percussion > tracks of some house-music (yes, lots of plumbing) ... way cool! > > -ee- > Member of the Free Association > In the same way that electronic music has split up into myriads of subgroups (house, industrial, techno, hip hop etc), it seems inevitable that house music split up into its many subgroups too. So, it seems that we will see house music become room music. THere will be dining room, living room, rumpus room and the inevitable bath room styles, each with their own proponents and followers. EPS users, there is a market there waiting to be tapped- money to be made! Let's get out there and sample before the professionals get in and take over. Let's face it, when Danny Jaegar releases the Master Works Toilet Flush library (16 bit stereo samples, with long loops and bonus running tap samples) then the market will have been cornered. Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Sun Sep 13 14:30:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 13 Sep 92 14:26 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <05721-0@pat.uio.no>; Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:26:48 +0200 Received: from [129.240.22.194] by fidibus.uio.no ; Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:26:44 +0200 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:26:44 +0200 Message-Id: <9209132126.AAfidibus07616@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: flush this.. flush1.gkh.Z Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no by worldwide popular demands.. flush1.gkh.Z is uploaded to incoming 1. STRAIT FLUSH 1424 blocks Old toilet in a beautifully tiled stairway in an old brick building in Fredrikstad 100 km south of Oslo. That it is flushed by a cello player is quite evident. ------- It is my understanding that at least one person promised to make some music out of this kind of thing. Please sign me up for a copy of the tape when it's finished :-) Terje From hpgrrd.gr.hp.com!daver Mon Sep 14 13:45:42 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Sep 92 13:45 PDT Received: from hpgrrd.gr.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA07695; Mon, 14 Sep 92 13:44:59 -0700 Received: by hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA00437; Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:41:06 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:41:06 -0600 From: Dave Ruska Message-Id: <9209142041.AA00437@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: NEWS FLASH !! Cc: daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH Ensoniq has a new sampler : SRA 10 * Stereo Samples * 31 Voice Polyphonic * 18 bit Delta sigma digital outputs * 16 bit 64 times oversampling inputs * Built in Single DP/4 effects chip with ALL 47 effects algorithms * Full realtime re-sampling with effects and live inputs * 1.44 MB 3.5" floppy * 1 or 2 MB simms up to 16 MB or RAM * Loads EPS and EPS 16+ sounds * "New look" packaging (what ever that means) * List price of $2699 w/ 2MB or RAM This is all my local dealer knows about it. His guess was that it's a 61 note poly-pressure keyboard with stereo outs and SCSI as an option, but not certain. Regards, Dave (daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com) From world.std.com!djk Mon Sep 14 18:40:45 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.74.137.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:40 PDT Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA27971; Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:40:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:40:25 EDT From: Dan J Keldsen To: eps@reed.edu Cc: djk@world.std.com Subject: Using EPS16+ Macros? Message-Id: Hi folks... Well, I just got the OS 1.3 for me EPS16+, and I'm finally going to get my floppy collection put onto some 44 meg removables. I'm wondering how to set-up and USE a macro (or macros?) to switch between the floppy and SCSI-2 device with the touch of a button or two instead of lots of buttons. I'd look it up in my manual, but it's in storage 45 minutes away, and I would have to arrange for someone to drive me there since I'm carless. So, could some kind soul throw me this little tidbit of info? Thanks much... Dan Keldsen djk@world.std.com I be a BERKLEE grad-u-mate... (now stuck in Marlborough, MA) From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Mon Sep 14 20:11:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:10 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA20396; Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:09:09 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA05866; Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:09:02 +0800 Received: from sndcrft by DIALix.oz.au id aa09892; 15 Sep 92 10:54 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (V1.16/Amiga) id AA003ge; Mon, 13 Sep 93 20:27:29 PST Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 20:27:29 PST Message-Id: <9309140427.AA003gd@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music From: Steve Quartly To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Optical Media Samples Hi Guys, Remember the Optical Media Give-Away in T.H.??? Where all the samples are stored in the one instrument?? Has anybody by any chance extracted them to individual instruments??? (Basically Im lazy :-) Am I gonna have to do it myself?? Fingers crossed >8-) See ya, -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (295 3359). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From Ensoniq.COM!bill Tue Sep 15 08:43:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:43 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM (4.1/mls/3.3.v2) id AA19845; Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:42:59 EDT Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA04652; Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:41:46 EDT Message-Id: <9209151541.AA04652@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA00385; Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:39:41 EDT Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:39:41 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: New sampler: ASR - 10 My, word travels fast! A little elaboration might be in order... NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH Ensoniq has a new sampler : ASR-10 Advanced Sampling Recorder * 31 Voice @ 29.6 KHz * 23 voice @ 44.1 KHz * Stereo Sampling: (1 bit) sigma delta A/D converter with 64X oversampling * 40 effects algorithms from the DP/4 * Stereo Audio in and through effects available at all times * Full realtime re-sampling with effects, with the sequencer running! * 1.6 MB 3.5" floppy with 1.44 MB mode for computer compatibility. * 4 slots for 1 or 4 MB simms up to 16 MB or RAM * Loads EPS and EPS 16+ sounds * New design metal case (with trap door for user installed SIMMs) * List price of $2699 w/ 2MB or RAM * SCSI option * Digital I/O option * 61 note poly pressure kbd, rack version release date still to be announced So that's the basics. It works like an EPS (load, cmd, edit) with two more track buttons which control the audio. Bill From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Tue Sep 15 08:48:00 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.254.48.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:47 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by hpfcla.fc.hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.3/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA16996; Tue, 15 Sep 92 09:46:14 -0600 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA13453; Tue, 15 Sep 92 09:48:56 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9209151548.AA13453@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH !! To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 9:48:55 MDT Cc: daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (Dave Ruska) In-Reply-To: <9209142041.AA00437@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com>; from "Dave Ruska" at Sep 14, 92 2:41 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] > > > NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH > > Ensoniq has a new sampler : SRA 10 Dave and I decided that this must stand for: Somewhat more Reliable And 10 more voices - - - -- > * Stereo Samples YES! At last... this should really gobble up disks! > * 31 Voice Polyphonic Cool... I wonder how many instruments can be loaded in the machine at once, please make it more than 8, oh please oh please oh please... > * 18 bit Delta sigma digital outputs > * 16 bit 64 times oversampling inputs Sounds impressive anyway! :^) > * Built in Single DP/4 effects chip > with ALL 47 effects algorithms > * Full realtime re-sampling with effects > and live inputs Now we're talking some serious effects here! > * 1.44 MB 3.5" floppy Great! wonder whatever happened to the floptical stuff we heard rumours about. Maybe they decided to wait on that option until you could at least buy floptical media... that would help :^) Maybe it will never make it off the lab prototypes either, who knows? > * 1 or 2 MB simms up to 16 MB or RAM Hmmm 16MB still sounds a little borderline (a lot better than what we have now though!) I just hope they decoded enough address lines to allow more expansion via some expansion board or something. > * Loads EPS and EPS 16+ sounds Hopefully without having to 'convert' first like Mirage to EPS is now... that would be a bummer. > * "New look" packaging (what ever that means) Hot Pink perhaps? > * List price of $2699 w/ 2MB or RAM I would have preferred free... but that sounds reasonable. > This is all my local dealer knows about it. > His guess was that it's a 61 note poly-pressure > keyboard with stereo outs and SCSI as an option, > but not certain. > > Regards, > Dave (daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com) Hmmmm, I was hoping for an internal hard drive option as well. I *really* hope this comes out in a rack mounted unit soon, as I am sick and tired of those stupid keyboard calibration errors (yes I've had it cleaned, yes I've had it hardwired, and yes I still get them.) This sounds really exciting... can't wait 'till there in the shops so I can go test drive one! =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From rsinc.com!keith Tue Sep 15 10:20:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.5.156.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 92 10:20 PDT Received: by gateway.rsinc.com (rsinc-gateway.920524) Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:20:48 MDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:20:48 MDT From: Keith R. Crosley Message-Id: <9209151720.AA03322@gateway.rsinc.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS 16+ w/exp. memory and SCSI FOR SALE So I just called my pal Dave Lees at ProSound here in beautiful Boulder, CO and asked him about the new Ensoniq sampler. Turns out he's the guy who leaked the info to daver at HP. Thanks to both Daves! Anyway, the point of all this is that I've got an EPS 16+ with the memory expansion, SCSI interface, a nice, carpeted, hardshell case, and all the original disks and docs (including new OS 1.3 with docs AND I'll throw in the Maurice White disk set) for sale. This unit is just 1 year old, was used only in my home studio, and is in excellent condition. I'd like to get about $2000 for this bad boy, but you could also make an offer. This is a great opportunity to upgrade from your orginal EPS or Mirage, so make me an offer! Respond via email or the phone number below and we can work out shipping details, blah, blah, blah. Keith R. Crosley Research Systems, Inc. (keith@rsinc.com) 303-786-9900 From nwnexus.wa.com!chernobog!max Tue Sep 15 12:47:07 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:46 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA24727 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:46:20 -0700 Received: by chernobog (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA14378; Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:40:12 PDT Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:40:12 PDT From: chernobog!max@nwnexus.wa.com (David Fedchenko) Message-Id: <9209151940.AA14378@ chernobog > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: re: New sampler: ASR - 10 I guess this is mostly directed back at bill, but they are also things I think everybody might be interested in (and possibly know something about). From: bill@ensoniq.com > NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH > > Ensoniq has a new sampler : ASR-10 > Advanced Sampling Recorder > > * 31 Voice @ 29.6 KHz > * 23 voice @ 44.1 KHz Is this number for stereo or mono output? Does it mean 31 stereo voices or 16.5 stereo voices? > * 40 effects algorithms from the DP/4 In the DP/4 literature there are 46 algorithms and only 2 are listed as multi unit effects. Which other ones are missing? Is the system set up so we might see a WaveBoy product for this sampler as well? > * 1.6 MB 3.5" floppy with 1.44 MB mode for computer compatibility. Compatibility with what? Will it be able to read SoundDesigner files off a Mac floppy? Does it only do PC format? Does this mean the ASR file format will be released since it will be so easy to get a file to a computer where things can be done to the sound? > * 4 slots for 1 or 4 MB simms up to 16 MB or RAM Will it handle 16MB simms? (Seems unlikely, but there's always a chance) > * SCSI option > * Digital I/O option What kind of prices will be on these? It probably would have made more sense to make the SCSI standard since the memory can be expanded so much farther than a floppy can hold (a 10 disk piano instrument, anyone?). What kind of digital I/O? Optical? SP/DIF? AES/EBU? All of them? Is the sequencer any different than the EPS? When is it actually going to be available? You mentioned the rack version doesn't yet have a release date, but there was also no mention of when this version will actually be buyable. thanks, david... ps. it was really fun yesterday telling my dealer more about the machine than he knew. and he thought it was a secret, because he was really surprised that i knew it even existed. ha ha ha. From hpgrrd.gr.hp.com!daver Tue Sep 15 13:36:34 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:36 PDT Received: from hpgrrd.gr.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA23164; Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:36:13 -0700 Received: by hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA29842; Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:32:18 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:32:18 -0600 From: Dave Ruska Message-Id: <9209152032.AA29842@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: re2: New sampler Cc: daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:40:12 PDT > From: chernobog!max@nwnexus.wa.com (David Fedchenko) > Subject: re: New sampler: ASR - 10 > I guess this is mostly directed back at bill, but they are also > things I think everybody might be interested in (and possibly know > something about). > From: bill@ensoniq.com > > NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH !! NEWS FLASH > > Ensoniq has a new sampler : ASR-10 > Advanced Sampling Recorder ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now we know what ASR stands for! [ Stuff deleted ] >> * SCSI option >> * Digital I/O option > What kind of prices will be on these? It probably would have made > more sense to make the SCSI standard since the memory can be expanded > so much farther than a floppy can hold (a 10 disk piano instrument, > anyone?). What kind of digital I/O? Optical? SP/DIF? AES/EBU? All > of them? I heard that the Digital I/O is AES/EBU, with an expected price of $1000. > When is it actually going to be available? You mentioned the rack > version doesn't yet have a release date, but there was also no > mention of when this version will actually be buyable. My dealer (Boulder Prosound) hoped to see in within a few weeks! That's all I've heard. Hopefully Bill will enlighten us with some more facts. I guess I should throw out a few questions of my own: ** How many outputs ? ( 2 sets of stereo ? ) Rack version ? ** Any output expansion ? ** How many instruments loadable at one time ? (This was Kelly's question) ** Any built-in hard disc options in the future ? Regards, Dave From ecn.purdue.edu!del Tue Sep 15 17:05:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:04 PDT Received: from localhost by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA18787; Tue, 15 Sep 92 19:04:13 -0500 Message-Id: <9209160004.AA18787@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: chernobog!max@nwnexus.wa.com (David Fedchenko) Cc: eps@reed.edu, del@ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Re: New sampler: ASR - 10 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:40:12 PDT." <9209151940.AA14378@ chernobog > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 19:04:10 -0500 From: David A Whittemore > ps. it was really fun yesterday telling my dealer more about the > machine than he knew. and he thought it was a secret, because he was > really surprised that i knew it even existed. ha ha ha. i *just* did the same thing - drove an hour to drop my 16+ off for repair (more later), and filled them in on the ASR-10. shamefully, they hadnt heard of WAVeBOY. i am not jumping to conclusions, but the problems which caused me to bring my board in only occurred after using O.S. 1.3. basically, the effects algos began crackling after playing around with the external-input. occasionally, during bank loads from a fresh-boot, the audio outs would just begin feeding-back (even if the effect in use was a standard EPS one). over a weeks time (not using external effects, trying to identify the problem) things continued to degrade until the crackling consistently occurred. i found that by re-loading an instrument that "crackled", things were ok until the great crackle-maker did his job again. the strangest thing: instruments saved during the crackling condition were "infected" - they loaded back in with the crackling in the instrument! shop time big time. reverting back to O.S. 1.10 corrected nothing. is it possible, i wonder, that somehow the D/A/D could have been overloaded and exploded (figuratively), or that the new O.S. allowed corruption of O.S./instument memory? expensive experimentation, as mr repair guy says the main board will probably need to be replaced. 1.5 months past warranty expiration, of course. whimper. -david tutto possibile - the black eg From ira.uka.de!uli Wed Sep 16 02:13:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.13.10.90 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 16 Sep 92 02:13 PDT Message-Id: Received: from ira.uka.de by iraun1.ira.uka.de with SMTP (PP) id <17583-0@iraun1.ira.uka.de>; Wed, 16 Sep 1992 11:13:08 +0200 Received: from i13d5.ira.uka.de by irafs1.ira.uka.de id aa12369; 16 Sep 92 11:12 MET DST To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: new sampler Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 11:09:46 +0200 From: Uli Bodenhausen Woow, sounds good. Now the question is: Will it be out before Kurzweil can *finally* deliver the sampling card for the K2000? (please excuse if this sounds blasphemous to you EPS fans!) Uli From YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu!MARISTB.BITNET!KNFU Wed Sep 16 09:17:23 1992 Return-Path: <@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu:KNFU@MARISTB.BITNET> Received: from 130.132.21.136 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 16 Sep 92 09:16 PDT Received: from VM.MARIST.EDU by YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3301; Wed, 16 Sep 92 12:12:33 EDT Received: from MARISTB by VM.MARIST.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3006; Wed, 16 Sep 92 12:15:33 EDT Message-Id: <16SEP92.13224371.0017.MUSIC@MARISTB> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 12:14:41 EDT From: Conrad Bain To: Subject: a question... hi...i'm new to the list and i'm interested in getting into sampling. i've been playing keyboards for about 6 years now. the only keyboard i have is a Yamaha DX11. i know it's kind of old, but it has a couple cool sounds i can get out of it. anyway, i'm interested in purchasing a sampler in the near future. i don't have a lot of money, so i'm wondering what would be a good low-cost sampler to check out. i have no idea how to sample my own sounds, so i would kind of like a sampler that has a great library of sounds that i could use. (i eventually want to sample my own sounds, though.) i really need a good piano sample too. i know that Ensoniq has that special piano sample chip that i've heard good things about.also, i know that investing in a sampler costs a lot more than investing in a regular synth, but i'm really interested in sampling capabilities. i would be using the sampler alot in live performance, so that might make things different.i would also need a sampler with keys. and i really want to avoid MIDI as much as a can. i have never used it and frankly don't want to. i would appreciate some feedback from those of you who are more knowledgable on this list about samplers than myself. thanks. Con From rsinc.com!keith Thu Sep 17 08:56:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.5.156.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 17 Sep 92 08:54 PDT Received: by gateway.rsinc.com (rsinc-gateway.920524) Thu, 17 Sep 92 09:54:57 MDT Return-Path: Date: Thu, 17 Sep 92 09:54:57 MDT From: Keith R. Crosley Message-Id: <9209171554.AA00690@gateway.rsinc.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: FOR SALE: EPS 16+ with exp. memory and SCSI Wow, so I'm trying to sell my EPS 16+ and haven't even had a nibble from this list or rec.music.synth! Doesn't anyone out there want to make me an offer on this thing? I was under the impression that there were at least a few "old" EPS users waiting buy used 16+ machines when the newest sampler came out... Anyway, here's the specs once again: EPS 16+ with Expanded Memory & SCSI For Sale I've got an EPS 16+ with the memory expansion, SCSI interface, a nice, carpeted, hardshell case, and all the original disks and docs (including new OS 1.3 with docs) for sale. This unit is just 1 year old, was used only in my home studio, and is in excellent condition. Respond via email or the phone number below and we can work out price, shipping details, blah, blah, blah. Keith R. Crosley (keith@rsinc.com) 303-786-9900 From Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE!bqt Thu Sep 17 10:17:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.36.125.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 17 Sep 92 10:17 PDT Received: from Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA22372; Thu, 17 Sep 1992 19:17:10 +0200 Received: by Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Sun-4/630, SunOS 4.1.2) with sendmail 5.61-bind 1.5+ida/ICU/DoCS id AA07995; Thu, 17 Sep 92 19:17:09 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 92 19:17:06 MET DST From: Johnny Billquist Reply-To: bqt@bern.docs.uu.se To: Keith R. Crosley Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: FOR SALE: EPS 16+ with exp. memory and SCSI In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 17 Sep 92 09:54:57 MDT Message-Id: >Wow, so I'm trying to sell my EPS 16+ and haven't even had a >nibble from this list or rec.music.synth! Okay, I'll give you a nibble, but I don't know if it will do... >Doesn't anyone out there want to make me an offer on this thing? I'd love to... Just hold on, and I'll tell you the potential problems... >I was under the impression that there were at least a few "old" EPS >users waiting buy used 16+ machines when the newest sampler >came out... I'm one for sure. >Anyway, here's the specs once again: > >EPS 16+ with Expanded Memory & SCSI For Sale > >I've got an EPS 16+ with the memory expansion, SCSI interface, >a nice, carpeted, hardshell case, and all the original disks >and docs (including new OS 1.3 with docs) for sale. This unit >is just 1 year old, was used only in my home studio, and is >in excellent condition. > >Respond via email or the phone number below and we can work out >price, shipping details, blah, blah, blah. Well, these are the problems: I live in Sweden. That means it must be able to run on 220v. Also, shipping can be a problem, but I guess that can be solved. Also, I'd like to get rid of my EPS in that case, since I would need the money from it, to pay for the 16+. I can probably sell it, but I don't want to do it unless I'm sure the 16+ is available, and the price is within my range. Right now I have a Classic with 4x, SCSI, Output Expander, Case and lots of disks... Guess I could get about $2500 in Sweden for this... What price range do you have in mind for your 16+? Where do you live? rsinc.com tells me nothing. I suspect that this isn't so interesting for you, but I figured I could ask at least... From Dartmouth.EDU!Stephen.W.Berkley Sat Sep 19 13:27:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.170.16.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 19 Sep 92 13:25 PDT Received: from donner.dartmouth.edu by dartvax.dartmouth.edu (5.65+D4/4.4HUB) id AA08715; Sat, 19 Sep 92 16:25:34 -0400 Message-Id: <1485467@donner.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 19 Sep 92 16:25:32 EDT From: Stephen.W.Berkley@Dartmouth.EDU Subject: Sign me up! To: eps@reed.edu (eps@reed.edu) Sign me up for the eps news.... I'm back. -Steve Berkley