From RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU!NLEONARD Sun Aug 30 12:44:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 134.241.10.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 30 Aug 92 12:44 PDT Received: from RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU by RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU (PMDF #3065 ) id <01GO74NNU39W9I4B7R@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>; Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:40:55 EDT Date: 30 Aug 1992 15:40:55 -0400 (EDT) From: NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU Subject: 16+ O.S. 1.3 Bank Load Bug Again To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GO74NNU39Y9I4B7R@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT After a number of hours experimenting with MIDI bank loads, I think I have found a bug. When a bank re-loads a sample to the same inst the machine hangs. This doesn't happen when loading by using the front panel buttons. Neil Leonard nleonard@ecn.mass.edu From moria.cs.su.oz.au!paul Sun Aug 30 19:13:40 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.8.208 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 30 Aug 92 19:13 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:10:15 +1000 From: paul@moria.cs.su.oz.au (Paul Craig Tyler) Subject: Re: 16+ OS 1.30 To: eps@reed.edu So when is some kind soul going to upload the new operating system to nextweek.reed.edu? Paul Tyler From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Sun Aug 30 20:58:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 30 Aug 92 20:58 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA22745; Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:58:11 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22939; Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:56:40 WST Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:56:40 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9208310356.AA22939@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS16+ OS 1.3 >Subject: Re: 16+ OS 1.30 > >So when is some kind soul going to upload the new operating system to >nextweek.reed.edu? > >Paul Tyler Does OS 1.3 (what happn'd to 1.2?) do the load while sequencer pay bit? Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Sun Aug 30 21:52:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 30 Aug 92 21:52 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <08855-0@pat.uio.no>; Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:52:19 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:52:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9208310452.AAfidibus12792@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: mac & ?. eh, disks I placed adownloader ( or was it a diskshredder? ) in the 'incoming" It's in a selfextracting archive containing some info, some sounds and some other mac-eps specifics. An unstuffer that is Stuffit Lite compatible is needed for some sounds. tgf From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Sun Aug 30 23:25:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 30 Aug 92 23:25 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2679>; Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:25:11 -0400 To: Terje Finstad cc: eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: mac & ?. eh, disks In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 92 00:52:15 EDT." <9208310452.AAfidibus12792@fidibus.uio.no> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:24:56 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug31.022511edt.2679@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Were you able to get the Mac to read EPS disks? (10-sector) People had been saying it wasn't doable. --- Mike From grassman.gvg.tek.com!simpsonn Mon Aug 31 11:36:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.181.48.11 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:36 PDT Received: by relay.tek.com id ; Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:17:43 -0700 Received: from gvgpsa.gvg.tek.com by tektronix.TEK.COM (4.1/8.0) id AA04129; Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:21:43 PDT Received: by gvgpsa.gvg.tek.com (5.57/9204230) id AA09323; Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:17:14 PDT Received: by grassman.gvg.tek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03978; Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:17:11 PDT Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:17:11 PDT From: simpsonn@grassman.gvg.tek.com (Nanette Simpson) Message-Id: <9208311817.AA03978@grassman.gvg.tek.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: more pitch problems Hello. Well I fixed my original pitch probem, I think you were right Scott....I had the pitch selected and was pounding away on the keyboard and the slide thingie was probably moving a bit...but now..another problem. Does anyone know why some 'instruments' can have the pitch transposed with no problems while other ones just fall apart? Example: the Digital Key that comes with the 16+ just sounds horrible when transposed..another, the piano 241 transposes but you can still hear the original key in the background..just awful. The large block instuments don't seem to have any problem but the 'cheap' smaller block ones do. Is this common? Do I have to keep trying out different instruments to find one that will work? Or am I again doing something wrong? /-: Nanette From sand.sics.bu.oz.au!s057 Mon Aug 31 17:35:30 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.244.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:35 PDT Received: from surf.sics.bu.oz.au by kirk.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA23120; Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:34:59 +1000 Received: from SAND.SICS.BU.OZ.AU by surf.sics.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA03270; Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:34:54 -0900 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA29194; Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:37:48 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9209010037.AA29194@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: Controller for 16+m To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:37:47 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I know this is probably not a standard EPS type question, but... I am the proud owner of a 16+m, and I want to get hold of a strap on controller for live performance. I remember ther used to be a thing called a Roland Axis around a few years ago, but I don't think they are made any more, and I'm not sure if they responded to aftertouch. If anyone's got any ideas and prices I'd be really glad to here from you. Thanks, Steve. From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Mon Aug 31 18:44:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:44 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA27812; Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:44:11 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA09910; Tue, 1 Sep 92 11:44:09 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9209010144.AA09910@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: more pitch problems To: simpsonn@grassman.gvg.tek.com (Nanette Simpson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 11:44:08 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9208311817.AA03978@grassman.gvg.tek.com>; from "Nanette Simpson" at Aug 31, 92 11:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > > Hello. > Well I fixed my original pitch probem, I think you were right > Scott....I had the pitch selected and was pounding away on the keyboard > and the slide thingie was probably moving a bit...but now..another problem. > > Does anyone know why some 'instruments' can have the pitch > transposed with no problems while other ones just fall apart? > Example: the Digital Key that comes with the 16+ just sounds > horrible when transposed..another, the piano 241 transposes but you > can still hear the original key in the background..just awful. > > Sounds like you're transposing some bits of the instrument but not others. I assume that you're talking about "edit:pitch" transpose, not transposing from inside the sequencer (which should be OK). What I think is happening is this: the EPS layout works on three levels. You've got instruments, ehich are made up of layers, which are made up of wavesounds. Now there's a page you see which has something on it like: "instname lyr=1 ws=2" where, from memory, "instname" is the first few letters of your instrument name. Now one of two things could be going wrong: 1) You've got "lyr" or "ws" underlined before you go into edit:pitch instead of having the whole instrument underlined. What that means is that, instead of affecting the whole insytrument, you're only affecting either a key range or a layer (that would lead to that effect you speak of where it sounds "half right". 2) You're using the wrong control to set the pitch. The slider and the inc/dec buttons do things differently. One is an absolute control (the slider, I think), the other is relative. Try changing what you use. Have fun... Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au > Nanette > > From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Mon Aug 31 19:23:34 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:23 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42859; Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:23:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:23:20 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9209010223.AA42859@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Smokin' EPS 4X Help! After trying 3 separate SCSI configurations on my E EPS I decided there must be something wrong with the controller/4X expander. I pulled it out and whaddya know! A capacitor C9 was reduced to cinders. Having bought the unit used I don't know what killed it. Anyway can anyone tell me what value this cap is supposed to be? Does Ensoniq service these units? If not how much does a new one run? Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks, Ed Roth From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Mon Aug 31 20:07:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:07 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #2372 ) id <01GO8XA79OYOB3JU9F@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:07:04 EDT Date: 31 Aug 1992 23:07:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: Portable controllers To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GO8XA79OYQB3JU9F@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > From: "Stephen Gregory" 31-AUG-1992 21:13:49.39 > Subj: Controller for 16+m > > ...I want to get hold of a strap on controller for live performance. If > anyone's got any ideas and prices I'd be really glad to here from you. > Here are some ideas, for what they're worth (frighteningly, they're free). I have seen all of these (except the Korg 707) for sale new or used during the past year. The earliest two that I know of were the Yamaha KX-1 and KX-5. Both have velocity and channel aftertouch, and both use a ribbon controller for pitch bend -- a very cool thing to see. The KX-1 had the advantage of longer, more piano-like keys, and the disadvantage of only transmitting on MIDI channel 1 or 2. I *think* the KX-5 is still in production. Its short, stubby (but full-width) keys are sometimes annoying to pianists. Another currently popular one is the Lync, about which I know almost nothing, except that it is the controller of choice for Jan Hammer. I think that Lync Systems may have two models, at the $1000 and $2000 price points, but that is more a recollection than a nailed-down fact. The Roland, which had a strange loop at the left-hand controller end, may have recently gone out of production. My current _Musician's Friend_ catalog lists the Roland AX-1 strap-on. Here is the catalog text: Step out from behind that pile of keyboards and take center stage! The AX-1 is loaded with performance features like 45 velocity-sensitive keys, an Expression Bar that sends both position and pressure, a sustain switch on the "neck", splits and layers, sequencer start/stop/continue controls, and a Data Entry slider that sends Continuous Controller messages. When used with a Sound Canvas or other GS module, you can turn reverb and chorus on and off, load tones, and more. I note that the picture -- a line drawing, indicating that the controller was vaporware at press time -- shows the range as E to C, and that the 'expression bar' *could* be a ribbon controller. Note that the keyboard itself does not seem to have aftertouch. The list price is $795, which may be a good trade-off of price for features. Casio and Korg have also produced strap-on keyboard controllers. Another approach would be the Korg 707 (I hope I got the number right), which was a 4-op FM synthesizer that ran on 9 volts and weighed less than some strap-on controllers. It had velocity and aftertouch on a 4-octave keyboard, and a MIDI out jack. The Kawai K-4 (or is it the K-1 II? I get confused in my old age), still sold, can also be strapped on, and has a 5-octave range. I actually did a few performances with a Casio CZ-1000, which had neither velocity nor aftertouch; it gave the audience something to see.... IMO, it is unfortunate that there has been so little progress in strap-on controllers. Apparently, they take too much away from the Big Sound that is expected from two-handed, often two-manual keyboards. The ideal (still IMO) would be a >= 4-octave, polyphonic aftertouch, with a six-inch ribbon controller and locking sustain switch. The main point of a strap-on is, after all, to give the audience something to see. They'll always *hear* more when you're behind your keyboard stack. -Tom Williams From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Mon Aug 31 22:16:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:16 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <21665-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:16:31 +0200 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:16:27 +0200 Message-Id: <9209010516.AAfidibus17429@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re:mac & ... Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no clarifying : "adownloader" takes a std .gkh or a raw image -as the source- from a HardDisk and *writes to EPS formatted floppies -as the destination -. ( so it does not *read, sorry if it was unclear. "adownloader" could not have been a very well chosen word, again sorry ) confusing: Given that there are 100+ typo's in the docomentation and frontend messages I would not have been surprised if it tried to read 11 sectors, -but for a diskshredder, who cares how many as long as it gets all? or did I get those titles mixed up? tgf -several screens on the meaning of english words destilled to: From sand.sics.bu.oz.au!s057 Tue Sep 1 22:52:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.244.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:49 PDT Received: from surf.sics.bu.oz.au by kirk.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA09172; Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:49:06 +1000 Received: from SAND.SICS.BU.OZ.AU by surf.sics.bu.oz.au using SMTP (5.65b) id AA09297; Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:49:00 -0900 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA04289; Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:51:52 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9209020551.AA04289@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: Os 1.3 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:51:50 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I got my copy of the new OS today with the waveboy FX. I have now done a successful bank load via midi - but how do you do the load while playing bit. Anyone got a list of official new features? Steve Gold Coast Australia From hub.ucsb.edu!cosmo%cs Tue Sep 1 23:23:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:22 PDT Received: from cherry (cherry.ucsb.edu) by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA04079 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:22:32 PDT for eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <9209020622.AA04079@hub.ucsb.edu> Received: from by cherry (4.0) id AA00321; Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:22:28 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:22:28 PDT From: Burtin Posted-Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:22:28 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Crashes while loading sounds I just got a couple disk images from nextweek--EPS9, EPS14, and EPS15. Most of the sounds work great on my 16+, but some make my keyboard crash when I load them. Any ideas, or similar experiences? - Boris (cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu) From ads.com!pdel Tue Sep 1 23:42:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:41 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA11870; Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:45:03 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA15770; Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:45:01 -0700 Message-Id: <9209020645.AA15770@deimos.ads.com> Subject: Re: Crashes while loading sounds To: cosmo%cs@hub.ucsb.edu (Burtin) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:45:01 PDT Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9209020622.AA04079@hub.ucsb.edu>; from "Burtin" at Sep 1, 92 11:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > > I just got a couple disk images from nextweek--EPS9, EPS14, and EPS15. Most > of the sounds work great on my 16+, but some make my keyboard crash when I > load them. Any ideas, or similar experiences? > > - Boris > (cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu) > All of the EPS## and PD## disks are for the EPS classic, so may not work on the 16+. Others have discovered some sounds that don't even work on the classic. I have gone over some of the original disks of these and have found the sounds would also crash my EPS classic. So you will have to be careful when loading some of these disks. I'm talking maybe 3 or 4 of them, shouldn't be more than that. PD From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Sep 1 23:51:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:49 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA16399; Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:49:46 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27986; Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:48:04 WST Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:48:04 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9209020648.AA27986@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: OS 1.3 Rumour: I heard (when playing with Beta OS 1.17) that Ensoniq were going to scrap the "load from sequencer [internal] capability" If this "load from sequencer" capability is not in 1.3 then perhaps the rumour was correct. What happn'd to 1.2? Maybe 1.2 was the OS with this feature? Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Germany.EU.net!kiehl%utrurt.uucp Wed Sep 2 07:48:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.76.144.65 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 2 Sep 92 07:47 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:47:08 +0200 Message-Id: <199209021447.AA01060@mail.Germany.EU.net> Received: from utrurt by mail.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (5.65c/EUnetD-2.2.0.h) via EUnet for reed.edu id AA01060; Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:47:08 +0200 Subject: EPS, mirage disk formats compatible? From: kiehl@utrurt.uucp (Johannes Kiehl) Apparently-To: eps@reed.edu During the few days since I joined this list, there was a number of mentionings of programs that let you access EPS disks from computers. Does any of you know whether these programs also work with Mirage disks? Are the formats compatible? -- I'd like to have a look at my Mirage sounds on a PC or Atari. Hope this ain't no Ferociously Asked Quiztion .-). hannes. From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Wed Sep 2 09:21:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 2 Sep 92 09:21 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA67129; Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:20:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:20:56 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9209021620.AA67129@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: 4 Sale Anybody need an out put expander for their EPS? It's on my classic and I never use it. I don't know if it would work on other models. If you're interested make me an offer. Ed Roth eroth@yuma.acns.colostate.edu From usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!wariat!eddie Wed Sep 2 12:07:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.22.8.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:07 PDT Received: from wariat.UUCP by usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu with UUCP (5.65b+ida+/CWRU-1.5.2-UUCPGW) id AA12137; Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:06:59 -0400 (from wariat!eddie for eps@reed.edu) Received: by wariat.org (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.4) id ; Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:36 EDT Message-Id: From: eddie@wariat.org (Eddie Anthony) Subject: Hello To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:36:51 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hello to all the list users. I am new to the list, as I am to the EPS itself. Mainly wanted to say hello and ask a few basic questions. First, my OS disk has had the numbers obliterated on the label. How can I tell what version I have? Is there a call up parameter that will show me on the display what version it is? Second, I have seen a lot of software packages and wonder what some of you think about them. I am particularly interested in the Nile Rodgers set and the Craig Anderton set. Third, who out there has a hard drive on their EPS and what are your recommendations should I decide to go that route? Thanks in advance for your help, and once I get into this machine a bit deeper (I have only had it 3 days) I will be able to offer some sample swaps. Right now I only have a few basic samples plus what I converted from my Mirage. -- Eddie Anthony....eddie@wariat.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And as Mason once said to Dixon......"Ya gotta draw the line somewhere..." From hub.ucsb.edu!cosmo%cs Wed Sep 2 12:13:25 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:13 PDT Received: from cherry (cherry.ucsb.edu) by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA10111 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:13:07 PDT for eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <9209021913.AA10111@hub.ucsb.edu> Received: from by cherry (4.0) id AA00230; Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:13:02 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:13:02 PDT From: Burtin Posted-Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 12:13:02 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Soft reset Is there a way to soft-reset the EPS/16+? I feel guilty for power- cycling it when it crashes... - Boris (cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu) From usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!wariat!eddie Wed Sep 2 13:29:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.22.8.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 2 Sep 92 13:29 PDT Received: from wariat.UUCP by usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu with UUCP (5.65b+ida+/CWRU-1.5.2-UUCPGW) id AA27680; Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:29:36 -0400 (from wariat!eddie for eps@reed.edu) Received: by wariat.org (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.4) id ; Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:24 EDT Message-Id: From: eddie@wariat.org (Eddie Anthony) Subject: EPS OS To: eps@reed.edu (EPS list) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:24:07 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I now know how to see what version of software I have for my EPS. The next logical question is what is the latest revision? My EPS returned "RAM 2.4" and "ROM 2.0". Are those the lastest numbers? -- Eddie Anthony....eddie@wariat.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And as Mason once said to Dixon......"Ya gotta draw the line somewhere..." From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Thu Sep 3 01:37:42 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 92 01:35 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA27651; Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:34:24 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA17126; Thu, 3 Sep 92 18:34:20 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9209030834.AA17126@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: Hello To: eddie@wariat.org (Eddie Anthony) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 18:34:19 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Eddie Anthony" at Sep 2, 92 2:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > you think about them. I am particularly interested in the Nile Rodgers > set and the Craig Anderton set. > Well, I heard the Anderton set. Very clean, very good samples of old analog synths. Very much the best value of the bunch, as each disk has lots of different instruments. Many of the other sig series have, say, two or three long instruments , and if you don't like the sounds then it's bad luck. The Anderton set is one of the bunch that I would recommend. The early set with three drum kits isn't bad either (superb toms, from memory). > > -- > Eddie Anthony....eddie@wariat.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > And as Mason once said to Dixon......"Ya gotta draw the line somewhere..." > Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au... All I want for Christmas is a DP/4. From Ensoniq.COM!bill Thu Sep 3 09:41:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 92 09:41 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM (4.1/mls/3.3.v2) id AA02275; Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:41:18 EDT Received: from zippo by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA09330; Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:40:07 EDT Message-Id: <9209031640.AA09330@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/mls/3.5) id AA04286; Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:39:04 EDT Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:39:04 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: OS 1.3 features What is on the the OS 1.3 disk? 1) a bunch of bug fixes 2) backup and restore hard disk feature 3) NO load while sequencing 4) A new effect with chorus+reverb+chorus+reverb in parallel The defense: We actually had the load-while-sequence feature pretty far along before we found out that it makes the tempo completely unreliable. It seems that certain SCSI devices are so fast that they "hog" the bus for a long time, not allowing the processor to update voices or run the sequencer. We have no way (in software) to throttle the SCSI DMA. So throttle me. A good offense: The backup and restore has been extensively tested and works reliably. It supports backup between two different size SCSI devices as well as to floppy. Backing up and restoring a disk will defragment it and get rid of any bad files or spooky goblins. The new effect is a promotional giveaway item from WAVeBOY Industries. It happens to be a combination of parallel effects that is not found on the PED 1.1. As for a list of bugs fixed - I'll try to get that soon. ____________________________________________________________________ Bill Mauchly Software Manager Ensoniq From usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!wariat!eddie Thu Sep 3 13:40:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.22.8.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 92 13:40 PDT Received: from wariat.UUCP by usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu with UUCP (5.65b+ida+/CWRU-1.5.2-UUCPGW) id AA14608; Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:40:20 -0400 (from wariat!eddie for eps@reed.edu) Received: by wariat.org (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.4) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:07 EDT Message-Id: From: eddie@wariat.org (Eddie Anthony) Subject: Hard drive To: eps@reed.edu (EPS list) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:07:06 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Who has a hard drive on their EPS? I started gathering information today and would like to ask for feedback from the list. What I know so far is thet the Ensoniq SCSI interface is $200. PS Systems has rack mount 44mb removable hard drives for about $600. Ensoniq suggested that I try to live without the rack mount feature and thus could find one for about $460. A Also, your ROM chips must be upgraded to 2.4 before a hard drive will work. That would mainly apply to people like me who have OLD versions of the EPS. My ROMs are 2.0, or so the window told me.... To those who saw my question of checking OS and ROM version, and don't know how to do it, hold down COMMAND and press ENV 1 and scroll through the options in the window. You'll see RAM and ROM version numbers. I guess that's in the manual somewhere, but I called Ensoniq to find it out. -- Eddie Anthony....eddie@wariat.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And as Mason once said to Dixon......"Ya gotta draw the line somewhere..." From snooky.cs.unlv.edu!dflint Thu Sep 3 15:57:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.216.16.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:57 PDT Message-Id: Received: from snooky.CS.UNLV.EDU by JIMI.CS.UNLV.EDU id aa22461; 3 Sep 92 15:52 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Hard drive In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Sep 92 16:07:06 EDT." Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 15:52:04 -0700 From: dflint@snooky.cs.unlv.edu >What I know so far is thet the Ensoniq SCSI interface is $200. PS Systems >has rack mount 44mb removable hard drives for about $600. Ensoniq suggested >that I try to live without the rack mount feature and thus could find one for >about $460. A About the interface: I think you have to have the 4X expander first, but I'm not sure. Anybody else? I have a Syquest 44mb removable which I purchased from APS Technologies (They have ads in most mac and pc magazines). It cost me $479 a year or so ago. (I don't think that the price has changed since then.) The main reason I went with APS was their reputation with people on the net. I haven't had a problem with it since I got it. When I ordered it, I had (and still have) a Mac Plus that I wanted to use it with. Unfortunately, the drive freaked out when it was attached to both the EPS and the Mac at the same time, so I had to do cable swaps every time I wanted to switch between the Mac and the EPS. Since I ordered it to work with a Mac Plus, it came internally terminated, which may or may not be a problem depending on how big your SCSI setup is. >Also, your ROM chips must be upgraded to 2.4 before a hard drive will work. >That would mainly apply to people like me who have OLD versions of the EPS. >My ROMs are 2.0, or so the window told me.... You have to have OS 2.49 as well (it comes with the ROM upgrade, at least it did for me). >To those who saw my question of checking OS and ROM version, and don't know >how to do it, hold down COMMAND and press ENV 1 and scroll through the options >in the window. You'll see RAM and ROM version numbers. I guess that's in >the manual somewhere, but I called Ensoniq to find it out. >-- > Eddie Anthony....eddie@wariat.org >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > And as Mason once said to Dixon......"Ya gotta draw the line somewhere..." NOTE: I have no affiliation with APS, other than being a satisfied customer. Mike Evans dflint@unlv.edu From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Thu Sep 3 16:26:00 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:25 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA14901 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:25:42 -0700 Received: by sounds (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA06929; Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:22:50 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:22:50 PDT From: sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Message-Id: <9209032322.AA06929@ sounds > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eddie@wariat.org (Eddie Anthony) Subject: Re: Hard drive Cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS list) Hello all, I'm sure that I could have responded personally to Eddie, but I wanted to point out that I have an EPS Classic with the 2.0 ROMs and it works fine with the 105 Meg Quantum ProDrive 105S that I have. What advantage is there to the 2.4 ROM and is it intended for the Classic or the 16plus? I have an Ensoniq SCSI interface installed on a PS Systems EPS-4X. I purchased everything in August 1989, so I can't say what the price breakdown was. I can say that the charge for installation of the SCSI interface was $25 at my Ensoniq authorized repair center. The Quantum ProDrive 105S was $399 from Warehouse 54. A fellow EPS owner found this bargain for me in the back of MacWeak (as he called it). I had a strange time cabling the beast. The 1 foot cable supplied with the drive worked (although the EPS didn't like accessing the drive when set to SCSI ID 0). A cheap 6-foot SCSI cable made in Taiwan would not work reliably, but a custom-made 7-foot cable from Redmond Cable works like a charm. This is surprising since I fixed the problem by getting a "longer" SCSI cable. I thought this little tidbit might help folks on the list. | Who has a hard drive on their EPS? I started gathering information today | and would like to ask for feedback from the list. | | What I know so far is thet the Ensoniq SCSI interface is $200. PS Systems | has rack mount 44mb removable hard drives for about $600. Ensoniq suggested | that I try to live without the rack mount feature and thus could find one for | about $460. A | | Also, your ROM chips must be upgraded to 2.4 before a hard drive will work. | That would mainly apply to people like me who have OLD versions of the EPS. | My ROMs are 2.0, or so the window told me.... --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU BrianW@SoundS.WA.com SoundSoftware NeXTmail welcome - NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission From pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!OUACCVMB.BITNET!CLEARY Thu Sep 3 18:14:36 1992 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:CLEARY@OUACCVMB.BITNET> Received: from 128.112.129.99 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 92 18:14 PDT Message-Id: Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1364; Thu, 03 Sep 92 21:13:38 EDT Received: from OUACCVMB.BITNET (CLEARY) by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08 ptf039) with BSMTP id 0227; Thu, 03 Sep 92 21:13:20 EDT Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 21:15:46 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Comment: CROSSNET mail via SMTP@INTERBIT Date: 3 September 92, 21:12:58 EST From: CLEARY at OUACCVMB To: EPS at REED.EDU Sub: MIDI interface, Cakwalk, Windows Where can I get the best price on a Midi interface that accepts SMPTE, Cakewalk 4.0 with Windows, and Windows for IBM PC? Cleary at OUaccvmb.bitnet From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Fri Sep 4 08:07:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Sep 92 08:06 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA33816; Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:06:36 -0600 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:06:36 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9209041506.AA33816@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eddie@wariat.org Subject: Re: Hard drive Cc: eps@reed.edu I am also trying to get a hard drive set up on my EPS. The guy I talked to at Ensoniq said the ROMS must be ver. 2.0 and up. However 2.4 ROMS are necessary for the removable syquest and a few other drives. Has anybody had any success with a quantum hard drive? The Ensoniq support person said that no Quantum Prodrive would work on the EPS. In the Transoniq Hacker though, a Quantum 210 meg disk is in the list of drives reported to have been setup successfully. Is there a 210 Quantum other than the prodrive? Ed From ualr.edu!jabussey Fri Sep 4 08:34:39 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Sep 92 08:34 PDT Received: from sigma.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:32 CDT Received: by ualr.edu (MX V3.1) id 8069; Fri, 04 Sep 1992 10:32:07 EDT Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 10:31:55 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: WANTED! Sender: jabussey@ualr.edu To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <009601C5.B4512400.8069@ualr.edu> Does anyone have an OEX-8 for the EPS classic that they would be willing to part with? I need one like yesterday but I dont have the $$$ for a new one. In addition to helping out a poor musician, you will be contributing to the added sound quality of every demo I make for that point forth (gee now doesnt that make ya feel all warm inside!). I am willing to pay a reasonable price like today! Thanks, Jacque Bussey jabussey@ualr.edu From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Fri Sep 4 09:56:08 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Sep 92 09:55 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA01492 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:55:52 -0700 Received: by sounds (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA08904; Fri, 4 Sep 92 09:52:37 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 09:52:37 PDT From: sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Message-Id: <9209041652.AA08904@ sounds > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eroth@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Ed Roth) Subject: Re: Hard drive Cc: eps@reed.edu I don't know why this Ensoniq support person said that no Quantum ProDrive would work. I have a ProDrive 105S working with a 2.0 ROM EPS Classic. Also, the local music store's synthesizer expert, who beta tests Ensoniq OS software, highly recommended Quantum drives (after I purchased mine) and he said that Quantum were all that he installed on EPS's except for when the customer wanted a removable. I must admit that I cannot remember him mentioning the ProDrive series specifically, but I thought that most Quantums *were* ProDrive models? Before I purchased my SCSI disk, circa 1990, I called every manufacturer on the "approved" Ensoniq list of drives. At that time (and these companies *do* change their internal drives to other models periodically), the following companies were using these drives: Rodime 45plus = Rodime R03000S Rodime Cobra 45 = Rodime R03000T CMS 43SD = Seagate ST251N CMS 20SD = Seagate ST125N CMS 30SC, SDU30 = Seagate ST178N Microtek Nova 40= Quantum ProDrive P40S It might be a good idea to call all the OEMs on the current approved list from the Transoniq Hacker to update this information (please post to the list). I wouldn't be surprised if some of the drives that Ensoniq approves are ProDrives on the inside of the fancy case with the name brand. --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE NCSU BrianW@SoundS.WA.com SoundSoftware NeXTmail welcome - NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission | I am also trying to get a hard drive set up on my EPS. The guy I talked to at | Ensoniq said the ROMS must be ver. 2.0 and up. However 2.4 ROMS are | necessary for the removable syquest and a few other drives. | Has anybody had any success with a quantum hard drive? The Ensoniq | support person said that no Quantum Prodrive would work on the EPS. In | the Transoniq Hacker though, a Quantum 210 meg disk is in the list of | drives reported to have been setup successfully. Is there a 210 | Quantum other than the prodrive? | Ed From wri.com!andre Fri Sep 4 10:04:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 4 Sep 92 10:04 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA10401 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:03:54 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 12:03:36 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9209041703.AA00612@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Hard drive I'm using a Liberty 80 meg drive, which is built around a Quantum mechanism. It seems quite happy on my EPS-16. Don't know if going way up in disk size makes a difference in operability... AK