From Ensoniq.COM!bill Mon Aug 17 13:08:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 Aug 92 13:07 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM (4.1/mls/3.3.v2) id AA03461; Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:07:53 EDT Received: by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA23800; Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:47:07 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM (Bill Mauchly) Message-Id: <9208171947.AA23800@ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM> Subject: joining To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:47:06 EDT (some say I must be crazy but.. please put me on the list. From uservx.plk.af.mil!CONLEY Mon Aug 17 14:31:25 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.238.32.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:31 PDT Message-Id: Date: 17 Aug 92 15:26:00 MST From: "CONLEY, BOB" Subject: EPS File Formats To: "eps" Hello EPS'ers, I have had a short e-mail dialog with Mike Chen concerning EPS file formats, and would like to share my thoughts on this topic with the rest of the mailing list. What follows is my most recent message to Mike, which you all may wish to review and comment on. You can post your replies to the mailing list, or e-mail directly to me if you wish not to have your comments public. The topic of consideration is the internal file formats (INST, etc.) as written to floppy disks. My internet address is conley@uservx.plk.af.mil for those who wish to mail directly to me. The final paragraph is the most important--skip down to it if you want to get the main thrust of this posting. <<=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My message to Mike -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=>> I have the same problem--no documentation. One point of reference is that the SYSEX data tends to follow somewhat the file format (they both are derived from the internal memory organization used by the EPS OS). Other than that I have spent dozens of hours hacking my way through hex dumps of disks. At this point I have only a partial understanding of where some data is located, and 95% of that came from the SYSEX manual--I recommend you start there to figure your way through the various file formats (INST, LAYER, WAVE, etc). Worse, though, is there are many bytes that I have no idea about and for which there is no correspondence to the SYSEX data format, and these need to be defined in order to construct a file from scratch on the PC and have the EPS 16+ read it properly. I have only been able to extract some limimted data (e.g. wavesample bytes) from the EPS 16+ floppy, but I have not been able to write a disk for the EPS. To date I have only looked at INST files, with no experience at all on sequence/song files; the above recommendation may or may not apply to them. The overall disk format (FAT, file types, etc.) I learned from the EPS File Format document which was posted to the mailing list some time back...it's probably in the archives if you do not already have it, and may also be in a Transoniq Hacker article within the past couple of years. The SYSEX document originally written for the EPS16+ (dated Oct 1990) is helpful in some regards, but I just received in the mail (while I was on vacation) a new document from Ensoniq (dated Jul 1992). I have had it less than 24 hours, so I haven't yet read it or compared its contents with the old SYSEX document. I gave up SYSEX programming about a year ago because I found 50-100 discrepancies in the GET PARAMETER command alone, and wrote Ensoniq about my experience. I posted the main parts of that letter to the mailing list, which might also be in the archives. With the new document, perhaps I can resume my programming of PC/EPS SYSEX data exchanges. I have no experience with the EPS classic (original sampler), so I can offer no guidelines about how its SYSEX or floppy formats differ from the 16+. I feel a disk and file format document would be useful to the EPS community as a whole, and I would be willing to begin to document the collected knowledge of the EPS mailing list subscribers for inclusion into such a document, which would be made available to the mailing list at large. If you would be willing to contribute to such a project I will incorporate information you would care to contribute (beginning with what I have decoded up to now). Bob Conley (505) 846-4660 conley@uservx.plk.af.mil From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Mon Aug 17 14:42:23 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:42 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA10956 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:42:11 -0700 Received: by sounds (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA04774; Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:30:57 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:30:57 PDT From: sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Message-Id: <9208172130.AA04774@ sounds > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: joining To all EPS List folks: OK, I don't know if I need to say this, but lets all try not to drive Bill crazy with questions! I'm sure most of the members of this list are aware of basic electronic etiquette, but just for the green people on the list I would like to say the following: don't send private mail to Ensoniq unless you have first tried sending to the EPS List at large. Let Ensoniq answer questions voluntarily. If Bill's mailbox starts to overflow with questions which could have been answered by the rest of us, then he might decide not to take part at all. I'm saying this to look out for myself, since there have been many messages to EPS@Reed.edu in the last few months which were, might I say, annoying because the sender was not completely aware of the proper way to ask for help. Hey, if we treat Bill alright, some of his co-workers might join in! To Mr. Mauchly and Ensoniq: I think I speak for everyone when I say that this is a positive sign that at least some at Ensoniq are willing to lend an ear to their electronically connected customers! --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE BrianW@SoundS.WA.com SoundSoftware NeXTmail welcome | From: (Bill Mauchly) | Subject: joining | Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:47:06 EDT | | (some say I must be crazy but.. | please put me on the list. From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Aug 17 18:20:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:20 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA23423; Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:20:27 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03125; Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:18:56 WST Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:18:56 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9208180118.AA03125@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Joining Subject: Re: joining Brian writes... >To Mr. Mauchly and Ensoniq: > >I think I speak for everyone when I say that this is a positive sign that at >least some at Ensoniq are willing to lend an ear to their electronically >connected customers! Wow, welcome Bill! How about posting a introductory letter to the group when you get time? I'd also like to take the oppertunity to thank you for WAVeBOY. It's time someone at Ensoniq saw my .sig Eric won't publish it in full :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!OUACCVMB.BITNET!CLEARY Mon Aug 17 19:35:55 1992 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:CLEARY@OUACCVMB.BITNET> Received: from 128.112.129.99 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:35 PDT Message-Id: Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6572; Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:35:17 EDT Received: from OUACCVMB.BITNET (CLEARY) by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08 ptf039) with BSMTP id 4416; Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:35:16 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:35:03 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Comment: CROSSNET mail via SMTP@INTERBIT Date: 17 August 92, 22:32:33 EST From: CLEARY at OUACCVMB To: EPS at REED.EDU Sub: Repeat message Sorry for the repeat message or for seeming impatient. I got no response the first time so I'm not sure I'm getting through. So here it is again.... I'm new on board this discussion group and anxious to send/receive sounds for the EPS 16+, but I need help. I can download files from my email account to my PC, but then what? Also, does anyone have a list of error messages and their meanings. Anyone know about an update of the Operating System. Version 1.10 needs work! Has anyone figured out how to accelerando or retard using the EPS 16+ sequencer? Writing one measure sequences and chaining them together at different tempos is a real drag. Even with its limitations, I've successfully sequenced the entire musical score of *Brigadoon* and *Oklahoma* for community theatre productions with amazing results. I would be interested in hearing about other qwirky applications of this relatively inexpensive but versatile machine. Cleary at Ouaccvmb . From cs.tu-berlin.de!klon Tue Aug 18 01:07:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.149.17.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 Aug 92 01:02 PDT Received: from bahia.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA29840 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.11]) for ); Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:59:31 +0200 From: Florian Richter Message-Id: <199208180759.AA29840@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de> Subject: EPS 16+ SYSEX To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 9:59:27 MET DST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi, I don't know if anyone received the same letter from Ensoniq, so I send it to the group: " MEMORANDUM to: EPS-16 PLUS SysEx Enthusiast from: Software Engineering date: Mon, Jul 27, 1992 RE: EPS-16 PLUS External Command Specification Update Thank you for writing us regarding the EPS-16 PLUS System Exclusive Implementation. We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced due to either software or documentation inconsistencies. Enclosed is a copy of the revised EPS-16 PLUS External Command Specification. The documentation has been edited for clarity and accuracy, and thanks to your observations and input, the EPS-16 PLUS software has been revised. EPS-16 PLUS software version 1.30 is in final beta test, and when released, will be available from your Authorized ENSONIQ Dealer. (...)" The best way to get a copy is to contact the ENSONIQ MIDI Specification Desk at (800) 553-5151. ciao, Florian -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Florian Richter | | UUCP:klon@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de ..!{unido,pyramid}!tub!opal!klon | | BITNET: klon%tubopal@DB0TUI11.BITNET | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Tue Aug 18 03:29:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:29 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <26506-0@pat.uio.no>; Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:28:55 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:28:50 +0200 Message-Id: <9208181028.AAfidibus11222@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: upload Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no One image is placed in the incoming. Some groovy playing...made my mother go:"...hey, son, that's something,.. finally got your act together and made the right vibes to shake your mum's butt " I have nothing to do with it, It was given to me by a music shop as a promotional Demo. You may all already have it? If you think it is not OK to put it into the sample area please give message to remove it. If you believe it is commercial, go out and buy it. It could be worth it,.. after all my ma baked me an apple pai:-). files 'pocket.txt', 'pocket.gkh.Z' content: Good, solid Jazz-Rock/Fusion funky playing. The song is called POCKETSONG. For EPS classic Instruments Radiokit 408 Blks Elec Piano 56 Blks Phils Brass 111 Blks Perc FX 119 Blks Round*Wound 594 Blks Guitar Pick 177 Blks //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ---------------------- From poda.wins.icl.co.uk!A.Spiceley Tue Aug 18 05:15:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.91.199.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 Aug 92 05:15 PDT Received: from eros.uknet.ac.uk by ben.uknet.ac.uk via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:15:22 +0100 X400-Received: by mta eros.uknet.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:14:57 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/; converted (ia5); Relayed; Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:12:35 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/; converted (odif); Relayed; Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:12:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:12:35 +0100 X400-Originator: A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/;ICLPODA 0000001300006186] Original-Encoded-Information-Types: undefined X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 6186 From: A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk Message-ID: <"6186*/I=A/S=Spiceley/OU=poda/O=icl/PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS(16+R) Memory limit The statement from Ensoniq in the latest Transoniq hacker seems to be pretty definite that the memory limitation is a hard one, and quotes 2M(3M for the rack) as top whack including 1M flashbank. (So much for recent rumours :-( ?) In the UK at least one 3rd party supplier is offering 2M flashbank kits. I therefore wonder whether (a) this is a way to get my 16+R up to 4M (albeit half of it in flashbank with attendant worries about re-writing limitations) (b) this is a way to buy 1M you can use packaged with a further 1M which is unusable. Anyone able to tell me what the re-format/life expectancy of flash memory is anticipated to be? Andy Spiceley [A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk] From henry!bkirsch Tue Aug 18 07:14:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 26.0.0.24 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 Aug 92 07:13 PDT Received: from [138.60.16.2] by NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (5.59/1.0 ) id AA23347; Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:10:42 EDT Received: by henry (NX5.67a/NX3.0M) id AA03818; Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:58:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:58:00 -0400 From: Barry Kirsch Message-Id: <9208181358.AA03818@henry> To: eps@reed.edu@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL Subject: Sound Designer format requested Can someone please tell me where I can get the Sound Designer file format. Thank you, Barry Kirsch bkirsch@nadc.navy.mil From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Tue Aug 18 11:41:28 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 Aug 92 11:41 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA44811; Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:41:06 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:41:06 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9208181841.AA44811@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: 16 only seq's We've probably discussed this before, but I caint member why... can't us lowly EPS classic users use sequences from the 16+? Is it a hardware or logistics thing? Any possible solution on the horizon? Any more whiners out there that don't want to upgrade yet? Ed Roth From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Aug 18 23:38:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:38 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2625>; Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:37:56 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: GKH2IMG --- a quick hack Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:37:48 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug19.023756edt.2625@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Well, I accidentally deleted epsread and epswrite from my hard disk, so I wrote this little program to rip the 58-byte header off of GKH files. The resulting IMG file is 819,200 bytes of raw disk dump, which EPSUTIL can do R)eads and W)rites to and from. I thought I'd upload it, in case anyone else is going to use it. --- Mike P.S. BTW, does anyone know if zip does a better job than compress? From horde Wed Aug 19 08:22:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 08:21 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 08:21 PDT From: horde (Mr. Heiji Horde) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: From the list maintainer... For those of you who are getting bounced mail with lots of 'Xsucceed's and 'failure's, don't worry. I'm not sure why the fails are happening right now, but we're looking into it. Also at some point, we will be reconfiguring our mailer so that I get the bounced mail and you don't. Thank you, - Heiji horde@reed.edu From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Wed Aug 19 09:15:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 09:15 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA11525; Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:15:18 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA14038; Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:15:15 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa23920; 19 Aug 92 23:26 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <0bt6hmi@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 18 Aug 92 13:06 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: pocket.gkh.z To: eps@reed.edu Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:05:58 MET Hi Gang, Have you downloaded pocket.gkh.Z??? No, I hear you say. Well you MUST! Its excellent! Im listening to it as I write, what a great slap bass funk feel.... just makes you wanna bop as you listen. Hmmmm heres a nice little elec piano solo.... great Now the slap bass takes over, heaps of reverb on it. A few brass stabs. All in all fantastic... Well done who ever sent it to nextweek! (Terje was it you? I think so.) Why arent there more demos of this calibre on nextweek? Mind you Peter D. sent a few great disks with demos to nextweek. Keep em coming guys, this is GREAT! See ya, -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From sdacs.UCSD.EDU!john Wed Aug 19 12:00:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.239.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:00 PDT Received: from sdacs.ucsd.edu by ucsd.edu; id AA12139 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:00:06 -0700 for eps@reed.edu Received: by sdacs.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDGENERIC2) id AA18417 for delivery to eps@reed.edu; Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:00:03 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:00:03 PDT From: john@sdacs.UCSD.EDU (John Boyd) Message-Id: <9208191900.AA18417@sdacs.UCSD.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS 2.49 O.S. (classic) Could someone upload their copy of the latest O.S. (2.49) to nextweek in gkh format? Every time I end up at the music store I realize that I can't get this because I don't have an EPS classic formatted disk in my pocket. The EPS 16+ can copy the O.S. but it will not format a classic diskette. Thanks, john From rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com!angevine%eavax.dnet Wed Aug 19 12:54:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.86.24.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:53 PDT Received: from EAVAX.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06320; Wed, 19 Aug 92 15:57:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 15:57:14 -0400 Message-Id: <9208191957.AA06320@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com> From: angevine%eavax.dnet@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (William S. Angevine) To: "eps@reed.edu"%rapnet.dnet@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com Subject: General Information Requested john@sdacs.ucsd.edu writes: > >Could someone upload their copy of the latest O.S. (2.49) to >nextweek in gkh format? I just joined this mailing list so please excuse this posting if it is a FAQ. What is gkh format? What is "nextweek"? I too own a classic and would like the latest OS. Also, could someone send me, (or direct me to), information that will get me up to speed. For example EPS PD software, sample swapping (how to, location, etc.). Thanks in advance! Sorry if this is inappropriate. Bill =============================================================================== William S. Angevine Lockheed Sanders, Inc. Senior Programmer/Analyst Mail Stop: NHQ04-0305 Engineering and Operation Systems PO Box 868 angevine@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com Daniel Webster Highway, South ...!uunet!rapnet!angevine Nashua, NH 03061-0868 -- DISCLAIMER -- The views and opinions expressed are strictly my own and do not represent the views or opinions of Lockheed Sanders, Inc in any way. I confess to possessing an insatiable desire to stay employed. "Children are the best of times, and the worst of times, often at the same time" My Dad (who's wisdom jumped exponentially right after the birth of my 1st child) From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Wed Aug 19 12:54:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:53 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <16801-0@pat.uio.no>; Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:53:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:53:28 +0200 Message-Id: <9208191953.AAfidibus17717@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: EPS 2.49 O.S. (classic) >Could someone upload their copy of the latest O.S. (2.49) to >nextweek in gkh format? > >Every time I end up at the music store I realize that I can't get this >because I don't have an EPS classic formatted disk in my pocket. >The EPS 16+ can copy the O.S. but it will not format a classic >diskette. > Well it: O.S. (2.49) , is already there (and has been a long time), it's called: /pub/system-software/EPS2-49.GKH.Z and may me if you looked in your left pocket instead of the right when you were at the music store you would find it there too :-) //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ---------------------- From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Aug 19 16:27:25 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 16:27 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2613>; Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:27:03 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL v1.25 (minor change) AND SOURCE CODE!!! Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:26:50 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug19.192703edt.2613@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Version 1.25 of EPSUTIL has been uploaded to nextweek.reed.edu. The changes are: 1) Unused tracks are now skipped when reading a disk into an EUI file; this makes using G)et on partially empty disks faster. 2) The default gap length has been changed to 40 (0x28), to follow the example set in GKH's source. Also, for those who requested it, the source has also been uploaded! But be warned, it is not commented heavily; most of the code is self-explanatory (I hope). The parts that will need to change for porting are the epsio.c routines for sector reads and writes, the frmtdisk.c code for formatting (actually, tho, this can be removed if need be), and the sctredit.c code for console i/o (it uses 43-line mode on EGA/VGA computers). Those who make ports should send notes (and code too) to me. I figure that I should keep track of the stuff, since I wrote the first one. Note: use of this code implies that your application will be free/shareware or public domain... no crippleware or for-profit stuff unless I get a cut! :-) Enjoy! _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From ads.com!pdel Wed Aug 19 17:43:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:43 PDT Received: from bert.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA07279; Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:46:24 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by bert.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA12618; Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:46:23 -0700 Message-Id: <9208200046.AA12618@bert.ads.com> Subject: disk wizard - how to? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:46:22 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Steve Q., this is really for you, but I figured I might as well post it to all in case others know how to do this. In the 2.1 docs, it says you can read .gkh files, is that right? I tried to use disk-wizard to copy a .gkh file to a floppy; it didn't go. Is that possible? What be I doing rong? Maybe I have the wrong version? (2.1) Hoping for Help, PD From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Aug 19 18:12:06 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:11 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2620>; Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:11:38 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Instrument format on disk != sys-ex format... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:11:33 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug19.211138edt.2620@groucho.cs.psu.edu> I've just been checking the disk image of instruments against the sys-ex representation (as given in the EPS sys-ex stuff I downloaded, from ucsd I think), and some things either aren't explained, or aren't the same. Anyone else find the same thing? ... have info on the disk format? ... want to post the latest SYs-Ex spec (if it's legal)? --- Mike From comm.mot.com!chucksi Thu Aug 20 08:36:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 Aug 92 08:36 PDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA07602; Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:34:12 CDT Received: from re66 (re66.stc.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA07821; Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:39:39 CDT Message-Id: <9208201539.AA07821@comm.mot.com> Received: by re66 id ; Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:33:02 -0500 From: chucksi@comm.mot.com (Chuckster) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:33:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (2.0.5 12/1/91) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: K2000 News on an EPS group ! Hey everyone listen! This straight from EQ..... "Purchasers of the soon-to-be available Sampling Option for either the K2000 or K2000R will receive Version 2.0 firmware, which not only adds a graphic sample editing environment, but also allows theinstrument to directly read samples from Ensoniq EPS disks (as well as Akai S1000 disks)." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Whoa....whaddya think crew? I think I'm gonna add a K2000R to my formidable rack...'cause this baby's got a LOT! (and I've still got my EPS Classic and 16+ Turbo rack as well) Chuck Siu From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Thu Aug 20 15:02:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 Aug 92 15:02 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2619>; Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:01:57 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Using a SparcStation's floppy??? Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:01:53 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug20.180157edt.2619@groucho.cs.psu.edu> I now have a SparcStation 1 on my desk, and am interested in moving some of the EPSUTIL code to here... does anyone know how to do low-level floppy drive access on a Sparc? (Kelly?) -- Mike From kurango.cit.gu.edu.au!richard Thu Aug 20 21:42:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.234.5.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:41 PDT Received: by kurango.cit.gu.edu.au id AA11697 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:44:19 +1000 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:44:19 +1000 From: Stop That Pigeon!!! Message-Id: <199208210444.AA11697@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: New WAVeBOY effects disk Anyone out there got the new WAVeBOY effects disk? Any reviews? richard From reef.cis.ufl.edu!mas Thu Aug 20 22:09:22 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.227.224.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 20 Aug 92 22:09 PDT Received: by reef.cis.ufl.edu (5.61ufl/4.12) id AA29315; Fri, 21 Aug 92 01:09:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 01:09:12 -0400 From: "Mark Schneider" Message-Id: <9208210509.AA29315@reef.cis.ufl.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: New version of EDM I had the pleasure of speaking with Gary Giebler today. He has a newer version of EDM. Among the improvements are: (1) Disk access much faster (2) Sequencer conversion almost 3 times faster (3) Number of disk blocks occupied by instruments printed on the disk label (the old version only had the instrument names) Directories are now alphabetized on your IBM screen. Anyone who's EDM program was created before July 4, 1992 (you can check the date the files on the EDM disk were created) whould get the update. Prices ------ Disk Manager $6 Disk Manager & Sequencer $10 You may purchase from: Giebler Enterprises 8038 Morgan Road Liverpool, NY 13090 (315)-652-5741 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Mark Schneider | | mas@cis.ufl.edu | | 904-335-6511 (voice) | -------------------------- From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Fri Aug 21 09:58:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.254.48.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 09:58 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by hpfcla.fc.hp.com with SMTP (1.36.108.3/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA25994; Fri, 21 Aug 92 10:57:27 -0600 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA22849; Fri, 21 Aug 92 10:59:36 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9208211659.AA22849@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: Using a SparcStation's floppy??? To: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 10:59:35 MDT Cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <92Aug20.180157edt.2619@groucho.cs.psu.edu>; from "Michael Chen" at Aug 20, 92 6:01 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] > > I now have a SparcStation 1 on my desk, and am interested in moving some of > the EPSUTIL code to here... does anyone know how to do low-level floppy drive > access on a Sparc? (Kelly?) > > -- Mike > > On my HP workstation I can take an EPS formatted disk, stick it into the floppy drive, and then do a simply unix 'cat' command, directing the input from the raw device file in /dev to a file (ie 'cat /dev/flpy0 > epsimage'). I can write an EPS disk by reversing the process, and 'cat'ing the file back out to the raw device which contains an EPS formatted disk. It seems to work just fine on this platform, but I've never heard of anybody doing it with a Sun. I still can't figure out how to format an EPS disk from my workstation though, I still have to format those on my EPS at home. You might want to give the 'cat'ing idea a try though. Hope this helps! =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Fri Aug 21 10:16:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 10:16 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2613>; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:15:53 -0400 To: Kelly Larson cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Subject: Re: Using a SparcStation's floppy??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Aug 92 12:59:35 EDT." <9208211659.AA22849@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:15:47 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug21.131553edt.2613@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Yeah, I ran across that when twiddling with the Sun man pages. But I could not find a place where you can set the drive characteristics for Suns the way you can for PCs during format. Of course, I haven't tried an outright 10-sector format, because a deadline is looming ... when I get the chance, I'll try it. _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From ecn.purdue.edu!del Fri Aug 21 10:29:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 10:29 PDT Received: from localhost by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA13931; Fri, 21 Aug 92 12:29:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9208211729.AA13931@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: cc.; Subject: Re: New WAVeBOY effects disk In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:44:19 +1000." <199208210444.AA11697@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 12:29:17 -0500 From: David A Whittemore > Anyone out there got the new WAVeBOY effects disk? i just got a blurb in the mail about effects disk #2. this one apparently updates all the factory effects so that they can use external sources. in addition, there are a couple plate reverbs and a 3-voice time-dicer thing. my question: are these new effects going to mess up when used with the sequencer the way the original time-dicer did? the time-dicer, when used with the sequencer running produces erratic buzzing. it is this flaw that prohibits my using it live. i *must* know if the new effects disk corrects this before i plop down another $40. not to slam mr waveboy too much - i think that otherwise the effects are pretty wonderful and essential. -david From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Fri Aug 21 11:12:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 11:11 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <18764-0@pat.uio.no>; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:11:43 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:11:35 +0200 Message-Id: <9208211811.AAfidibus24639@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: next mac hack Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no This note can only have some interest for some hackers that happen to own real computers like Mac and NeXT. It concerns reading EPS disks, with these computers. I apologize for the rather specialized topic having no direct connection to music nor sound generation,..-NeXT time. It answers however some questions that have been forwarded to me privately and which have been raised on the list. ("About the author": I use a Mac or 5. I am no hacker and I really only wish I had a NeXT because of its sexy look and high price tag. blaah) If you have been trying to read EPS disks skip this section: The IBM and Atari guys have had a large advantage in convenience with sample trading because utilities for reading and writing EPS disks are available. This advantage they also can use for many other tasks where they otherwise might have used MIDI or SCSI. The equivalent disk utilities don't exist for the Mac (nor the NeXT to my knowledge -and that's all I know about NeXT!!) So we have a disadvantage. And we still call our's real computers?. I also hear several people have difficulties getting their SCSI communication to work. ( I have given up mine, which failed after I upgraded my Mac ) So will there ever be an equivalent disk-reading utility for the Mac? It is my bet it will not, and certainly not for the Macintosh as a FAMILY of computers. There may be for individual ones. For the IIfx there could easily be one. Why is this so?, Why have no-one done anything about it? Basically because the disk controller software is an integral part of operating system in ROM. All parameters are hard coded in ROM and there are no parameters you can change by software. This means the Mac can only read and write a small number of a priori hard coded disk formats. The EPS 10 sector/track oddity is not one of those. (The Mac has it's own much more odd oddity, however the Macs with a SuperDrive can also read IBM disks. EPS disks are really only IBM formatted disks with 10 sec/trk and the EPS file-system.) If one want to write a new disk controller for the internal floppy, which would be the brute-force approach, it appears to me one has to worry about a lot more than only the disk controller itself. If I could explain all the details I would have written a disk controller. Those details are also different for each Mac model, and no essential details will be available from Apple, which can make people both frustrated and angry to the point of buying an IBM. I think it is in place here to defend Apple a little at the same time as we answer has anyone done something? I know people on this mailing list and others have had a shot at the problem, and I know there is a code example that Apple distribute to "developers" that was kindly put together by one engineer at Apple, apparently in direct response to questions about reading EPS disks with Macintosh. Unfortunately neither the questionnaire nor the Apple engineer (naturally in that situation) knew enough at that time, so the example is trivial and worthless to EPS-ers. There was an ongoing discussion about this all through the spring ( on and off) in the Mac news-goups. Some people from Apple also participated, on a personal basis. Those were respected experts, who we know have a good knowledge of the use of the Mac disk driver. Their advice is really "stay away from it". I consider that as good advice. The Mac models we use today would be outdated before any could have a hope of getting a utility working for all Macs. Again the IIfx can do it now. So much about that. There are problems reading an EPS disk with a Mac ( see above).So accept that, and ask if it will make your tasks easier if the Mac and the EPS could read the same book even if it's not the bible. If the answer is yes, read on. ( see you don't have to read all that much if you don't want to) You can make disks that both your Mac/NeXT and EPS will understand, but you may be ashamed of these disks, and you should probably keep them out of sight of other people. You use an ordinary EPS disk, but you mark every tenth sector as a bad sector. The tag marks on the disk mark the sectors from 0 to 9, and you mark every sector 0 as bad. You also mark all sectors falling in the 10th file allocation block as bad. ( That whole block may already be marked as bad, but my EPS ignores that, which means you may mark block 10 as good, and have an eof mark as usual in the FAT ) This procedure reduces the capacity of the disks, you can only store 1377 blocks ( 705 024 ) bytes on them, but that's still not too bad. I mark these disks with 'B10', to signify they are special and every 10th block is Bad. How do you use this and for what can it be used?. The EPS reads and writes on these relatively as normal. The Mac will not see the bad blocks, it does not know they exist, or at least that is what it pretends in reporting to you. So you read it exactly as any other external file-system disk formatted as 720k 9-sect/track.(So you need a SuperDrive, the driver "autodetect" the tag-system). You would or should not use these disks directly as images, but you can build up a normal image on a hard-disk directly. Since you have direct access to the directories and the FAT on the floppy-disk you can make a transfer on a file by file basis. That goes the other way as well; you can put individual instruments on the B10 disk and read them on your EPS. Then you would store them as normal on your EPS -hard-disk or a normal EPS floppy-disk. So that answered some of what do you use it for. But the list: 1) Transferring individual, one or many, EPS type files from images, to your EPS (from your Mac) by disk. 2) Transferring individual files you get mailed electronically from friends. 3) Transferring individual samples (as instruments) that you have calculated. ( That's why I did it ). 4) Transferal of Samples by disk for sample editing, 5)For having your Mac, hard disk as the permanent storage space for sample files, with its tape backup facility, You can save instruments in stuffed archived for relatively easy retrieval. ...etc...etc... Where can you get it?. I thought this note was for hackers. ( You can make a B10 in a number of ways, I have also used a fake B10, 'fB10' with the Mac on an EPS formatted disk, no need for IBM's. The 10th Sector is inacessible and cannot be acessed so you can not mark those sectors as bad. As long as you only write on the floppy disk with the Mac and not the EPS, exept in special cases, thats fine, your software will know that the FAT in block 10 is inacessible so it will just create a jump in the sequence of blocks allocated to the file. ) For those that are not all that familiar with the subject, here is what you need of requisites and background info for todays project. 1) A real computer 2) A filt pen to mark disks with 'B10' 3) Info on the EPS-file disk system can be found from: a) Letter from Scott Fisher,, 24 Jan 92 In the EPS mail-archive at reed.edu b) Articles by Gary Giebler in Transoniq Hacker, Several issues, Autumn 1992 (Some is "contained" in documents at nextweek.reed.edu ) 4) Info on .gkh disk format necessary for reading images in that format Letter from Goh King Wha, , 24 Mar 92 In the EPS mail-archive at reed.edu 5) Info on the .EFE file format for sending individual files to friends: Letter from Steve Quartly,,18/19 Apr 92 In the EPS mail-archive at reed.edu 6) Also available, code for reading EPS disk directories Letter from Kelly Larson ,26 May 1992 In the EPS mail-archive at reed.edu and utilities at nextweek.reed.edu Also watch current and coming discussion on the list in august 1992 ===== Have a nice day, boys and girls :-) //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ---------------------- From woodbine.csri.toronto.edu!csri.toronto.edu!har Fri Aug 21 13:15:03 1992 Return-Path: <@woodbine.csri.toronto.edu:har@csri.toronto.edu> Received: from 128.100.1.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:14 PDT Received: by woodbine.csri.toronto.edu id <210>; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:14:45 -0400 From: Harriet Hume To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Waveboy Cc: har@csri.toronto.edu Message-Id: <92Aug21.161445edt.210@woodbine.csri.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:14:39 -0400 I have had the same problem with the "Time-Dicer" effect from Waveboy. That is, it pops and crackles alarmingly when used as a live-audio In in conjuction with a sequence. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks. HH From sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com!zimmers Fri Aug 21 13:31:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 153.113.2.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:29 PDT Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com ([153.113.67.50]) by dsd.northrop.com (4.1/Gatemaster-4.1) id AA02585; Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:30:59 CDT Received: from sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com (4.1/SMI-4.0a) id AA09827; Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:30:14 CDT Received: by sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06752; Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:19:24 CDT Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:19:24 CDT From: zimmers@sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com (Mr. Luxury Yacht) Message-Id: <9208212019.AA06752@sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Waveboy Re: Time-Dicer crackling Scott, didn't you write that Ensoniq claimed to have this fixed in the new EPS 16+ O.S.? And that Ensoniq would be shipping a few algorithms with the O.S., including ones that have not yet been released? (Did I dream this?) s. zimmers From Ensoniq.COM!bill Fri Aug 21 13:46:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.126.220.104 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 13:45 PDT Received: from ensoniq.UUCP by gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM (4.1/mls/3.3.v2) id AA01746; Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:45:06 EDT Received: from zippo (zippo) by ensoniq.Ensoniq.COM (4.1/mls/3.5) id AA12511; Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:43:50 EDT Received: by zippo (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA00762; Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:36:43 EDT Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:36:43 EDT From: bill@Ensoniq.COM (Bill Mauchly) Message-Id: <9208212036.AA00762@ zippo > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Audio-In Effects from Waveboy About noise when using audio-in and internal sounds: It's fixed in OS 1.3 (from Ensoniq). So where is that??? It's released from engineering at Ensoniq, waiting for marketing to send it out to the world. But it is also included on the Audio-in disk! Thanks to all for the welcome to the list. Things are busy right now, so I will put off a long inauguration speech. * Bill Mauchly (by day) * WAVeBOY (by night) From poda.wins.icl.co.uk!A.Spiceley Fri Aug 21 15:36:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.91.199.254 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:35 PDT Received: from eros.uknet.ac.uk by ben.uknet.ac.uk via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:35:48 +0100 X400-Received: by mta eros.uknet.ac.uk in /PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:35:19 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/; converted (ia5); Relayed; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:32:58 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/; converted (odif); Relayed; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:33:12 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:32:58 +0100 X400-Originator: A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/;ICLPODA 0000001300006212] Original-Encoded-Information-Types: undefined X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 6212 From: A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk Message-ID: <"6212*/I=A/S=Spiceley/OU=poda/O=icl/PRMD=iclexpo/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS(16+R) Memory limit The statement from Ensoniq in the latest Transoniq hacker seems to be pretty definite that the memory limitation is a hard one, and quotes 2M(3M for the rack) as top whack including 1M flashbank. (So much for recent rumours :-( ?) In the UK at least one 3rd party supplier is offering 2M flashbank kits. I therefore wonder whether (a) this is a way to get my 16+R up to 4M (albeit half of it in flashbank with attendant worries about re-writing limitations) (b) this is a way to buy 1M you can use packaged with a further 1M which is unusable. Anyone able to tell me what the re-format/life expectancy of flash memory is anticipated to be? Andy Spiceley [A.Spiceley@poda.wins.icl.co.uk] From nu1.uh.cwru.edu!ellert Fri Aug 21 15:42:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.22.168.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:42 PDT Received: by nu1.uh.cwru.edu (MX V2.3-1) id 14885; Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:42:27 EDT Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:42:27 EDT From: ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu To: EPS@REED.EDU Message-ID: <0095F709.E9EE1B70.14885@nu1.uh.cwru.edu> Subject: Amiga question Hi, I just entered the world of the EPS16+. It is the first serious keyboard I've owned; also the first MIDI keyboard I've owned. So I'm a bit overwhelmed... Anyway, I have this electronic female friend, a.k.a. an Amiga which I would like to use to full advantage with the EPS16+. So I have a couple of questions: 1) What is the best, (most features, easiest to use) MIDI package for the Amiga; what makes it the best? and 2) Has anyone attempted to use multidos to write Ensoniq format disks on the Amiga disk drive, or is there some alternative I haven't found??? Thanks, Ed Ellert From pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!OUACCVMB.BITNET!CLEARY Sat Aug 22 04:55:36 1992 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:CLEARY@OUACCVMB.BITNET> Received: from 128.112.129.99 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 22 Aug 92 04:55 PDT Message-Id: Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7357; Sat, 22 Aug 92 07:55:03 EDT Received: from OUACCVMB.BITNET (CLEARY) by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08 ptf039) with BSMTP id 2338; Sat, 22 Aug 92 07:55:03 EDT Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 07:54:38 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Comment: CROSSNET mail via SMTP@INTERBIT Date: 22 August 92, 07:49:54 EST From: CLEARY at OUACCVMB To: EPS at REED.EDU Sub: Scoring I have an EPS16+, a 386 IBM PC clone, and a DX&II. What software and hardware would you recommend to add scoring and video capabilities? Thanks Don Cleary at Ouaccvmb.Bitnet From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Sat Aug 22 12:03:05 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 22 Aug 92 12:02 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA23579 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!EPS); Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:02:16 -0700 Received: by sounds (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA02402; Sat, 22 Aug 92 11:58:17 PDT Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 11:58:17 PDT From: sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Message-Id: <9208221858.AA02402@ sounds > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: Neteiquette & the Zero Sector Cc: EPS@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) | I dont know what your purpose is, but if it is just for your own | amusement, or occasionally getting the content of disk images you | get from friends or download from nextweek over to your EPS, then | there is one simple hack you can do which I have done. I have used EPS | diskettes with every 0'th sector of every track marked bad. That way | your EPS and next will read 'the same book, even if it ain't the bible'. | ( an old celtic saying I just made up ) Well, it seems like this would only work for disks which I create. I don't see how I could write a disk image from a friend, unless that friend also chose to create a "B10" diskette (as you call them). I have an idea, though. How about a utility which takes a standard EPS floppy image as a file, and automatically converts this image to a 9-sector disk? This should work, provided that the source disk image has 80 free sectors or more. In the case where fewer than 80 sectors were free, the program could automatically ask the operator to "Select a file to delete" like the EPS often says: "Select an Instrument to delete". Then the program could create a 9-sector disk with only one file missing. The program could then place the missing file onto a second floppy image, or the operator could run the program again and specify a different file to delete. The end result would be two floppies which together hold all of the information. If you were really finicky, you could load all of the files from these two disks into the EPS and then write them out again to a single standard 10-sector EPS floppy for permanent storage. I might try to write such a utility in C (for portability to other platforms), but I won't be starting on it right away. I thought I would mention my idea in case anyone else who needs a solution to the same problem wants to write the utility based on my idea. P.S. Uploading "B10" disks should be no problem. EPS owners whose computers can only handle 9-sector disks could create one 9-sector disk for transferring instruments from their sampler to their computer. There is only one drawback to this: a disk image lists all sector contiguously, so 10-sector and 9-sector disk images are not interchangeable for the purpose of uploading and downloading. Should we have a unique extension to identify 9-sector disks posted to NeXTweek? Or should there be a companion utility to convert 9-sector "B10" disks to 10-sector format before uploading (and therefore require that all uploads be 10-sector format)? --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE BrianW@SoundS.WA.com SoundSoftware NeXTmail welcome From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Sat Aug 22 15:44:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 22 Aug 92 15:43 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <04889-0@pat.uio.no>; Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:43:51 +0200 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:43:47 +0200 Message-Id: <9208222243.AAfidibus27831@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re:Netetiquette & the Zero Sector Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Brian, you must be joking? What a title? That's one of mine. You reproduce a private letter sent to you. You know better. You took it out of it's context. Then you go on really commenting on a note I made to the eps list. Your comments were perfectly clear, and you have a consistent style all through your post. That made my day. //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ----------------------