From dacnet.com!tom Mon Aug 3 06:36:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.77.177.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 06:34 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA01764; Mon, 3 Aug 92 09:35:17 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: Alternate site for samples To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 3 Aug 92 9:35:14 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Hello fellow EPS'ers, After following this group for a while, I have noticed several people leave the group since they were graduating, getting a new job, etc... I will therefore be mirroring the samples from nextweek.reed.edu on my own BBS here in Washington D.C. While this is not as nice as an anonymous ftp site, I think it will open up access to sample trading to a larger group. There are no fees for this board (except for long distance calls :^( ) If you have any ideas or comments, let me know. Thanks, Tom Roehl tom@dacnet.com call "The Biscayne Villa" (703) 243-5248 speeds up to 9600 baud From Planet.bt.co.uk!mpw Mon Aug 3 07:43:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.146.5.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 07:32 PDT X400-Received: by mta zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 3 Aug 1992 13:06:17 +0100 X400-Received: by mta wol.planet.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 3 Aug 1992 13:06:04 +0100 X400-Received: by mta planet.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Mon, 3 Aug 1992 13:05:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1992 13:05:56 +0100 X400-Originator: mpw@Planet.bt.co.uk X400-Recipients: eps@reed.edu X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/;<19034.9208031205@sextans.planet] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: retreiving ar... From: Mike Wood Message-ID: <19034.9208031205@sextans.planet.bt.co.uk> To: eps Subject: retreiving archived samples Warning novice Question: I've just downloaded a sample from nextweek... it a compressed file eg PD_5.GKH.Z 500k big compressed. what know ? Its sitting on my sparc station ( with floppy drive ). I would like to put it on disk[s] and transfer it to a midi file dump. how do I split this file and put it onto some ensoniq DD disks. or put on MS-DOS disks and read them on my atari and MIDI dump them. BTW Thanks for answering my previous questions. Mike. From horde Mon Aug 3 09:16:35 1992 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 09:15 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 92 09:15 PDT From: horde (Mr. Heiji Horde) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: To: Andrea Gozzi Greetings, from your mail to the EPS list you would like to be removed from it. Unfortunately, I could find any matches for your address. I searched for the following strings: andrea gozzi forum sublink org work portal com Could you please get back to me with the address you asked to be added to the EPS list? -heiji horde@reed.edu From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Mon Aug 3 11:47:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 11:46 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <03611-0@pat.uio.no>; Mon, 3 Aug 1992 20:46:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1992 20:46:24 +0200 Message-Id: <9208031846.AAfidibus29878@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: Alternate site for samples Tom Roehl wrote: >Hello fellow EPS'ers, >After following this group for a while, I have noticed several people leave the >group since they were graduating, getting a new job, etc... I will therefore >be mirroring the samples from nextweek.reed.edu on my own BBS here in >Washington D.C. Explain that for me again,.. please.., I did not catch the logic. But it anyhow reminds me to ask if anyone knows what is happening with the ftp site? I got the impression that nextweek was temporary until MAY BE out july? The whole mailing list which has been handled extremely well lately ( You know when you don't notice strange things, then - someone must have put work into maintaining it) is also in danger? >While this is not as nice as an anonymous ftp site, I think it >will open up access to sample trading to a larger group. There are no fees for >this board (except for long distance calls :^( ) Are you paid by the telephone company? you should. > If you have any ideas or >comments, let me know. Thanks, > I think that's wonderful,(and especially for the phone compony ) I have one concern -it is towards the contributors to the sample collection. They have given their material away to the public, and have agreed thet anyone could use 'their' samples. However in doing so they may not have envisioned that their stuff would be brought to a BBS, which is/could be different than trading samples between individuals. [ reasons could be very private, religious or otherwise, use you imag. ] I therefore think that each individual contributor ought to be contacted and only if you recieve a positive reply should you include that in your BBS. I think that way you would not hurt anyone. Just my personal feeling. By answering publicly the contributors, to whom we are all thankful, know that someone have expessed (their) concern. //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ---------------------- From horde Mon Aug 3 12:23:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 12:23 PDT Message-Id: To: Terje Finstad cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Alternate site for samples In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 03 Aug 92 20:46:24 +0100. <9208031846.AAfidibus29878@fidibus.uio.no> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 92 12:23:41 -0700 From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" In message <9208031846.AAfidibus29878@fidibus.uio.no> you write: >But it anyhow reminds me to ask if anyone knows what is happening with the >ftp site? I got the impression that nextweek was temporary until MAY BE >out july? No...It seems I will continue to work here for at least the end of the year. I'm still waiting for something "official". So the ftp site can say. Anyhow, the next few weeks are going to be fun. I'll be playing the great machine swap game. The ftp site can be around until December or so with no problem. Won't know for another month if it'll be any longer. I wouldn't worry about it though. The EPSers should be warned that nextweek might be changing its name. Will update you when and if it happens. -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) Systems Programmer/Administrator From dacnet.com!tom Mon Aug 3 12:45:28 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.77.177.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 12:45 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA07094; Mon, 3 Aug 92 15:45:29 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: Re: Alternate site for samples To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 3 Aug 92 15:45:26 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] >Tom Roehl wrote: >>Hello fellow EPS'ers, >>After following this group for a while, I have noticed several people leave >>the group since they were graduating, getting a new job, etc... I will >>therefore be mirroring the samples from nextweek.reed.edu on my own BBS here >>in Washington D.C. >Explain that for me again,.. please.., I did not catch the logic. My point in setting up this service is to provide a forum for trading samples that is not dependent on the Internet. For many people, access to the Internet is a temporary perk they receive while attending school or working for a company that has an internet connection. The vast majority of EPS owners do not have this kind of access, and I think it will be a very well-received service for those users. >>While this is not as nice as an anonymous ftp site, I think it >>will open up access to sample trading to a larger group. There are no fees >>for this board (except for long distance calls :^( ) >Are you paid by the telephone company? you should. Who pays for your Internet connection??? I'm sure someone does. >> If you have any ideas or comments, let me know. Thanks, >I think that's wonderful,(and especially for the phone compony ) >I have one concern -it is towards the contributors to the sample >collection. They have given their material away to the public, and >have agreed thet anyone could use 'their' samples. However in doing so >they may not have envisioned that their stuff would be brought to a BBS, >which is/could be different than trading samples between individuals. I would be very suprised if someone would object to this service. I cannot believe that any samples were posted without the knowledge that they might receive wide-spread distribution. However, if anyone does have a problem with my distributing a sample in this manner, I am more than willing to exclude those samples from my BBS. Tom Roehl From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Mon Aug 3 14:13:05 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 14:11 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <05019-0@pat.uio.no>; Mon, 3 Aug 1992 23:11:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1992 23:11:32 +0200 Message-Id: <9208032111.AAfidibus00269@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: Alternate site for samples >>Tom Roehl wrote: >>>Hello fellow EPS'ers, >>>After following this group for a while, I have noticed several people leave >>>the group since they were graduating, getting a new job, etc... I will >>>therefore be mirroring the samples from nextweek.reed.edu on my own BBS here >>>in Washington D.C. > >>Explain that for me again,.. please.., I did not catch the logic. > >My point in setting up this service is to provide a forum for trading samples >that is not dependent on the Internet. For many people, access to the Internet >is a temporary perk they receive while attending school or working for a >company that has an internet connection. The vast majority of EPS owners do >not have this kind of access, and I think it will be a very well-received >service for those users. > Misunderstood again, I thought everyone had moved to Washington. >>>While this is not as nice as an anonymous ftp site, I think it >>>will open up access to sample trading to a larger group. There are no fees >>>for this board (except for long distance calls :^( ) > >>Are you paid by the telephone company? you should. > >Who pays for your Internet connection??? I'm sure someone does. > Misunderstood again. >>> If you have any ideas or comments, let me know. Thanks, > >>I think that's wonderful,(and especially for the phone compony ) >>I have one concern -it is towards the contributors to the sample >>collection. They have given their material away to the public, and >>have agreed thet anyone could use 'their' samples. However in doing so >>they may not have envisioned that their stuff would be brought to a BBS, >>which is/could be different than trading samples between individuals. > >I would be very suprised if someone would object to this service. I cannot >believe that any samples were posted without the knowledge that they might >receive wide-spread distribution. > You wiped out my line about using imagination, I see. >However, if anyone does have a problem with my distributing a sample in this >manner, I am more than willing to exclude those samples from my BBS. > Right, so fine, What eps stuff do you have at your board now? if it is of general interst? //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ---------------------- From comsys.dialix.oz.au!hp750.comsys!leigh Mon Aug 3 22:56:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 92 22:55 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA29063; Tue, 4 Aug 1992 13:09:12 +1000 (from hp750.comsys!leigh@comsys.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA03333; Tue, 4 Aug 1992 11:09:11 +0800 Received: from comsys by DIALix.oz.au id aa11272; 4 Aug 92 11:01 WST Received: from hp750.comsys by hp370.comsys with SMTP (15.11/15.6) id AA15951; Tue, 4 Aug 92 10:58:43 was Received: by hp750.comsys (16.8/15.6) id AA22672; Tue, 4 Aug 92 10:56:06 +0800 From: Leigh Smith Subject: Ensoniq EPS/EPS-16+ approved Hard disks and TH references To: "rec.music.synth list server" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 92 10:56:05 WAST Cc: eps@reed.edu Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] Message-Id: <9208041101.aa11272@DIALix.oz.au> In response to a request, here is a list of SCSI drives known to work OK with the Ensoniq EPS and EPS-16+ samplers. This comes from the Transoniq Hacker April '92 magazine. If you're using an Ensoniq product and not reading TH, you are doing yourself a great disservice. There are a large number of reviews of add-ons, third party sounds, hints, hardware mods etc. It is completely independant of Ensoniq, although Ensoniq will answer questions submitted to it. For further information email me or even better, subscribe to the EPS users maillist eps-request@reed.edu. Anyway enough of the blurb (I'm not associated with TH in any way other than being a subscriber): Tested and Approved Hard Drives for the EPSs The drives listed below are known to be compatible with the EPS and EPS-16+ _at the time of testing_. Changes in firmware or hardware by drive manufacturers may make later versions incompatible (with the exception of PS Systems, Eltekon and Frontera whose drives are configured to work specifically with Ensoniq Products). Drives not included on this list may also work just fine. For up-to-date information about specific drives call Ensoniq Customer Service: 215-647-3930. MANUFACTURER MODEL Dynatek All Models Frontera All Models PS Systems All Models Eltekon All Models Rodime 45plus, 60plus, 100plus, 140plus Microtech R45, N20, N40, N80, N100, N150 PL1 45 Meg Removable Mass Micro Datapack 45 Drives reported to work by Readers (of Transoniq Hacker) The following drives have been reported to work satisfactorily with readers EPS systems. No guarantees - but they'll probably work with yours. Try to try before you buy. Jasmine Direct Drive 100 Power Drive 44 Syquest 555 (removable) Quantum 100M, 210M Seagate 80M Tech Data Model 60e Here is a reasonably complete bibliography of Hard drive articles from the Transoniq Hackers: Smith A.K, (1989) "EPS DOS/SCSI Miscellaneous Ramblings", TH 45 (May) p11. Lewis B, (1989) "Review: The Eltekon Hard Disk Drive", TH 49 (Jul) p17. Lewis B, (1989) "Hard Disk Storage", TH 53 (Nov) p11. Smith A.K, (1991) "EPS DOS/SCSI Miscellaneous Ramblings I", TH 70 (Apr) p9. Smith A.K, (1991) "EPS DOS/SCSI Miscellaneous Ramblings II", TH 71 (May) p13. Feiner R, (1991) "Setting Up Your Hard Drive", TH 72 (Jun) p17. Worth D.P, (1991) "Is Your Drive Giving You a Hard Time?", TH 78 (Dec) p13. Hulett D, (1992) "Interface: Hard Drive Report", TH 79 (Jan) p30. Hope this helps someone. Leigh -- +-=======-=======-=======-=======-===========-=======-=======-=======-=======-+ | Leigh Smith Preferred -> Home : leigh@psychok.DIALix.oz.au | | Perth, Western Australia Phone: +61-9-450-2014 | | Consulting to: Work : leigh@hp750.comsys.DIALix.oz.au | | Comsys International Phone: +61-9-389-8877, Fax: +61-9-386-3414 | +-=======-=======-=======-=======-===========-=======-=======-=======-=======-+ From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Tue Aug 4 10:25:07 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 134.10.2.61 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 4 Aug 92 10:23 PDT Received: from local by itchy.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.23) id ; Tue, 4 Aug 92 09:41 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 04 Aug 92 12:40:24 EDT Date: 4 Aug 92 12:40:48 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Re: Re- Alternate site for s To: tom@dacnet.com, eps@reed.edu Subject: RE>Re: Alternate site for samp Tom, You wrote: >My point in setting up this service is to provide a forum for trading samples >that is not dependent on the Internet. For many people, access to the Internet >is a temporary perk they receive while attending school or working for a >company that has an internet connection. The vast majority of EPS owners do >not have this kind of access, and I think it will be a very well-received >service for those users. Agreed. Since you appear to have internet access and access to the BBS would you also accept the responsability for uploading new contributions to nextweek (or wherever it migrates to) from the BBS for all of us "internetters" to share? It would save students the long distance tolls and ensure those of us contributing to nextweek that we will see some benefits for uploading our own samples. Your idea is good. I'm just looking for a way to make everyone happy. mike a. From dacnet.com!tom Tue Aug 4 10:25:07 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.61 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 4 Aug 92 10:23 PDT Received: from local by itchy.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.23) id ; Tue, 4 Aug 92 09:49 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA14375; Tue, 4 Aug 92 12:47:48 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: Re: Re- Alternate site for samples To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 4 Aug 92 12:47:47 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] >Agreed. Since you appear to have internet access and access to the BBS would >you also accept the responsability for uploading new contributions to nextweek >(or wherever it migrates to) from the BBS for all of us "internetters" to >share? >It would save students the long distance tolls and ensure those of us >contributing >to nextweek that we will see some benefits for uploading our own samples. >Your idea is good. I'm just looking for a way to make everyone happy. >mike a. I would be more than happy to do this. Obviously, swapping samples via ftp is MUCH more efficient, and is the prefferred way of doing things. I will upload any new samples from the BBS to nextweek. At this point, I`m trying to spread the word to non-internetters about the service. I have seen discussions on local boards about nextweek and the frustrations in not being able to access it. There are other BBSs out there that offer this same service, but they charge BIG bucks to use it. Our equipment costs enough as it is. I'll keep everyone advised as it develops. From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Aug 4 10:33:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 4 Aug 92 10:32 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2627>; Tue, 4 Aug 1992 13:32:12 -0400 To: Tom Roehl cc: eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: Re- Alternate site for samples In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Aug 92 12:47:47 EDT." Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1992 13:32:08 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug4.133212edt.2627@groucho.cs.psu.edu> That's great, I mean an ftp site, but how do I get the ftp data onto EPS disks? Mac, or PC, no sweat, but the EPS uses some twisted format that I can't find docs on, much less do anything about. That's the one thing I liked about the Yamaha TX-16W --- MS-DOS compatible media. _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From planet.bt.co.uk!mpw Wed Aug 5 00:57:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.181.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 5 Aug 92 00:56 PDT Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by theory.TC.CORNELL.EDU (4.1/1.6) id AA19887; Wed, 5 Aug 92 03:56:05 EDT X400-Received: by mta zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:49:12 +0100 X400-Received: by mta wol.planet.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:48:48 +0100 X400-Received: by mta planet.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:48:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:48:36 +0100 X400-Originator: mpw@Planet.bt.co.uk X400-Recipients: eps@reed.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/;<19375.9208050748@sextans.planet] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: samples from ... From: Mike Wood Message-Id: <19375.9208050748@sextans.planet.bt.co.uk> To: eps Subject: samples from Sun to Atari Hmm, still a bit puzzled as to how to transfer a 819K file from my Sparc onto the atari without creating a large ramdisk and spliting the file onto two MS-DOS disks then recombining them onto the ramdisk of the Atari then running disk-wizard to copy from ramdisk to EPS disk ( or do a midi transfer ). I suppose it wouldn't take long to write a file splitting/combining prog for each end. BTW I would still like some info on the file format used in these cases, i.e. header details etc. Thanks, Mike. From planet.bt.co.uk!mpw Wed Aug 5 00:57:34 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.181.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 5 Aug 92 00:56 PDT Received: from by theory.TC.CORNELL.EDU (4.1/1.6) id AB19887; Wed, 5 Aug 92 03:56:17 EDT X400-Received: by mta zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:55:06 +0100 X400-Received: by mta wol.planet.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:54:13 +0100 X400-Received: by mta planet.bt.co.uk in /PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/; Relayed; Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:54:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1992 08:54:02 +0100 X400-Originator: mpw@Planet.bt.co.uk X400-Recipients: eps@reed.edu X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=UK.CO.BT/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/;<19383.9208050754@sextans.planet] X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 (22) Content-Identifier: K2000 heat gr... From: Mike Wood Message-Id: <19383.9208050754@sextans.planet.bt.co.uk> To: eps Subject: K2000 heat gripes My K2000 cuts out after being on for about 2 Hours due to heat problems. Well not so much cuts out but burns out! The LCD screen goes blotchy and the software crashes. How can they bring a keyboard out with an optional cooling fan that is'nt available for months after people have brought it!! I wonder if ice packs would infringe on my guarantee ? I heard talk about EPS 16's having heat probs were there any suggestions floating around ? Mike. From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Wed Aug 5 07:05:00 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 5 Aug 92 07:04 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Aug 92 10:04:48 EDT Date: 5 Aug 92 10:04:25 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Re: samples from Sun to Atar To: mpw@planet.bt.co.uk, eps@reed.edu Subject: RE>samples from Sun to Atari >Hmm, still a bit puzzled as to how to transfer a 819K file from my Sparc >onto the atari without creating a large ramdisk and spliting the file >onto two MS-DOS disks then recombining them onto the ramdisk of the Atari >then running disk-wizard to copy from ramdisk to EPS disk ( or do a midi >transfer ). What I do is ftp from nextweek to a UNIX system (in your case the SUN) uncompress the file then ftp from the SUN to a PC where I can use the epsread/epswrite utility to write the disk image to an EPS formatted disk. (Seems like a lot of work. Has anyone got other ideas?) It sounds like your Atari has a 720K floppy though. Any hard disk? Is there a compress/uncompress utility for the Atari, Mac or PC that could uncompress these .Z files without having to ftp to a UNIX system. >I suppose it wouldn't take long to write a file splitting/combining prog >for each end. That's one way to go. >BTW I would still like some info on the file format used in these cases, >i.e. header details etc. Someone posted a description to the net (I think). Maybe there's a copy still out there. Anyone? >Thanks, >Mike. Good luck. Let me know how it goes. mike a. From dacnet.com!tom Wed Aug 5 07:57:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.77.177.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 5 Aug 92 07:57 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA21946; Wed, 5 Aug 92 10:57:21 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: Re: Sun to Atari To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 5 Aug 92 10:57:20 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] >What I do is ftp from nextweek to a UNIX system (in your case the SUN) >uncompress the file then ftp from the SUN to a PC where I can use the >epsread/epswrite utility to write the disk image to an EPS formatted disk. >(Seems like a lot of work. Has anyone got other ideas?) I'm not sure how you are set-up, but we have it here at work where the PCs on the network use the UNIX machine as a file server, so I can ftp down to a directory that is readable by the PC. Then I just uncompress from the UNIX side and fire up epswrite on the PC side. Works pretty nice. >Is there a compress/uncompress utility for the Atari, Mac or PC that could >uncompress these .Z files without having to ftp to a UNIX system. I'm not sure about the others, but there is definitely a compress program for the Mac. If anyone is interested, I can upload it. From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Wed Aug 5 09:02:43 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 5 Aug 92 09:02 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Aug 92 12:02:31 EDT Date: 5 Aug 92 12:01:34 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Re: Re- Sun to Atari To: tom@dacnet.com, eps@reed.edu Subject: RE>Re: Sun to Atari >>What I do is ftp from nextweek to a UNIX system (in your case the SUN) >>uncompress the file then ftp from the SUN to a PC where I can use the >>epsread/epswrite utility to write the disk image to an EPS formatted disk. >>(Seems like a lot of work. Has anyone got other ideas?) >I'm not sure how you are set-up, but we have it here at work where the PCs >on the network use the UNIX machine as a file server, so I can ftp down to >a directory that is readable by the PC. Then I just uncompress from the UNIX >side and fire up epswrite on the PC side. Works pretty nice. Then what Mike (mpw@planet) needs to do is set his Sun up as server and his Atari as a client to duplicate your setup. He must have a hard drive on the Atari in order to use DiskWizard. He's also going to need ftp software for the Atari. I used to have the address of and ftp site with TONS of Atari software but I can't find it. Anyone know where that was? >>Is there a compress/uncompress utility for the Atari, Mac or PC that could >>uncompress these .Z files without having to ftp to a UNIX system. >I'm not sure about the others, but there is definitely a compress program >for the Mac. If anyone is interested, I can upload it. Yhat would be helpfull. Thanks. mike a. From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Aug 5 18:10:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 5 Aug 92 18:09 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2625>; Wed, 5 Aug 1992 21:09:06 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Info on file data (instruments, etc.) ? Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1992 21:09:02 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug5.210906edt.2625@groucho.cs.psu.edu> I was poking around nextweek looking for anything, but came up empty. Does anyone have anything? I got the sector info yesterday, and today there is a hex editor uploaded to nextweek... I'd like to make a file system, but to do that I need docs! Help! _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From dacnet.com!tom Wed Aug 5 20:52:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.77.177.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 5 Aug 92 20:51 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA27099; Wed, 5 Aug 92 23:51:42 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: EPS Disk Format To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 5 Aug 92 23:51:40 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] > I was poking around nextweek looking for anything, but came up empty. Does >anyone have anything? I got the sector info yesterday, and today there is a >hex editor uploaded to nextweek... I'd like to make a file system, but to do >that I need docs! Help! I have uploaded a text file that is a draft of the articles by Gary Geibler which appeared in the Transoniq Hacker. It does a pretty good job of describing everything you would ever want to know about the Ensoniq disks. From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Thu Aug 6 01:27:30 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 6 Aug 92 01:24 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2625>; Thu, 6 Aug 1992 04:23:22 -0400 To: Tom Roehl cc: eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: EPS Disk Format In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Aug 92 23:51:40 EDT." Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 04:23:06 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug6.042322edt.2625@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Thanks. BTW, you probably want to put the .Z extension on the file... it took me a second to realize it was compressed (after I tried unzip and pkxarc and lharc... I never use compress on the PC side). _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Thu Aug 6 03:25:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 6 Aug 92 03:23 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2660>; Thu, 6 Aug 1992 06:22:55 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Other people's formats (GKH, EDE, EFE, whatever) ? Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1992 06:22:41 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug6.062255edt.2660@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Could someone send me docs on the above exchange formats? I just expanded the utilities I'm writing to do raw disk reads and writes to hard disk. I'm working on something to allow logical access similar to unix/c open, and to allow saving an EPS file to a DOS file without hassle... but I'd like to be able to unpack other people's formats, too. If someone could tell me the GKH header format, I'd be able to get those done... Thanks. _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From hpgrrd.gr.hp.com!daver Fri Aug 7 10:13:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 7 Aug 92 10:13 PDT Received: from hpgrrd.gr.hp.com by hp.com with SMTP (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA12615; Fri, 7 Aug 92 10:13:25 -0700 Received: by hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA04621; Fri, 7 Aug 92 11:10:26 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 92 11:10:26 -0600 From: Dave Ruska Message-Id: <9208071710.AA04621@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com> To: eps@reed.edu, vfx@ucdavis.edu Subject: New Ensoniq products Cc: daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com T H E M A L V E R N D A I L Y G A Z E T T E "NEW PRODUCT ANNOUNCEMENT AT ENSONIQ SPARKS RIOT!" Rioting broke out today by angry EPS owners who were demonstrating outside the ENSONIQ facility here in Malvern. The riot was apparently sparked by Ensoniq's announcement of their new KMX line of MIDI patch bay products. The EPS owners had been demonstrating outside of the facility ever since last month's announcement of the new KS-32 Weighted Action Synth. The EPS owners have apparently been waiting for a new Sampler product to be announced. Their demonstrations included signs reading "MORE MEMORY", "MORE VOICES", and "CALIBRATION ERRORS KILL". During the rioting angry owners hurled boxes of low density floppies at Ensoniq design engineers. Meanwhile, Kurzweil busily tried to set up a demo of their K2000 keyboard across the street, but the demo had to be aborted when it was discovered that cables had separated within the unit during transport. The Ensoniq Marketing staff was finally able to disperse the angry EPS owners by handing out free copies of EPS sound libraries. For more information on the ENSONIQ KMX-8 (8x8) and KMX-16 (15x16) MIDI PATCH BAY products see page 148 of the September 1992 KEYBOARD Magazine. Had this been an ACTUAL event you would have been alterted by MTV, but the MIDI PATCH BAY products ARE real. Read your KEYBOARD magazine. From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Sat Aug 8 04:07:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 8 Aug 92 04:05 PDT Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2661>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:51:26 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2675>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:49:54 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2661>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:48:22 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2675>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:46:51 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2661>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:45:19 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2675>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:43:48 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2661>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:42:16 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2675>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:40:44 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2661>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:39:13 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2675>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:37:36 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2661>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:35:05 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu via suspension id <2675>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:32:08 -0400 Received: by groucho.cs.psu.edu id <2661>; Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:28:54 -0400 From: Michael Chen To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Index for digests? Message-Id: <92Aug8.062854edt.2661@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1992 06:28:42 -0400 Okay, okay, I admit it, I'm impatient. To get the info on the different file formats floating around, I downloaded EVERY SINGLE DIGEST FILE and grep'd them all. Does anyone want to make some sort of index (at least what is in each digest, more or less)? --- Michael Chen mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu P.S. I uploaded to nextweek a somewhat primitive EPS disk editor that I've been using to snoop around EPS disks. It needs an IBM PC with 43-line mode support, which means EGA/VGA. I also have a version that does disk image reads and writes --- no fancy formatting yet, just 819,200 bytes of data. But I'm trying to add more stuff, so I'm not uploading it yet. P.P.S. I did a disk image write to an IBM-PC formatted (9-sector) disk, and it worked about as well as could be expected, which is to say, NOT. Does anyone know how to set up the proper format parameter table for the BIOS routine? From horde Sun Aug 9 20:36:23 1992 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 9 Aug 92 20:35 PDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 92 20:35 PDT From: horde (Mr. Heiji Horde) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Of FTP sites and digests... Well, haven't had much time lately, but I did a quick grep for "Subject:" lines in the digests and threw them onto: ftp.reed.edu:/pub/mailing-lists/eps/indexes The digests have moved on subdirectory down to: ftp.reed.edu:/pub/mailing-lists/eps/digests I've done some cleanup in /incoming for the samples ftp site (nextweek). the PD_* files are now in: nextweek.reed.edu:/samples/PD vfx files from /incoming are now in: nextweek.reed.edu:/samples/vfx I'll have to figure some way to better organize the samples. A few weeks ago There was some mention of a listing available somewhere, I could organize it according to that if someone sent a copy to me. Also, be warned that sometime within the next few weeks "nextweek" will be changing its name. It will become "avarice". Don't worry though, "nextweek" will remain as an alias for the machine. At least for a while. -Heiji (horde@reed.edu) Systems Programmer/Administrator From horde Sun Aug 9 20:40:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 9 Aug 92 20:39 PDT Message-Id: To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Of FTP sites and digests... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 Aug 92 20:35:00 PDT." Date: Sun, 09 Aug 92 20:39:13 -0700 From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" In message I wrote: > The digests have moved on subdirectory down to: > ftp.reed.edu:/pub/mailing-lists/eps/digests Whoops...change that. The digests will stay where they are: ftp.reed.edu:/pub/mailing-lists/eps Forgot that if they're moved you screw up the automatic packing script that runs. -Heiji horde@reed.edu From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 00:01:00 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 9 Aug 92 23:59 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2514>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 02:59:09 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL.ZIP uploaded to nextweek.reed.edu Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 02:58:57 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.025909edt.2514@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Well, like the message says, I've uploaded EPSUTIL.ZIP to nextweek. It's basically EPSEDIT, with the ability to read and write raw image files and to verify disks. The sector editor (at this time) needs an EGA or VGA adapter, since it uses 43-line mode. Try it, and let me know how it is! --- Mike P.S. features still to come include support for others' formats, my own format (maybe, if it turns out to yield smaller files), file handling... _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 02:36:05 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 02:35 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2621>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:35:01 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Using a PC to format EPS disks??? Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:34:53 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.053501edt.2621@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Aargh! In trying to put a formatter in my utilities, I can't get the !@^&%$ PC drive to format right. I do the BIOS (int 0x13) calls to set media type (0x18). Then, since the format routine reads the number of sectors per track from the INT 1E disk paramter table, I copy and install my own, fudging the sectors per track entry to 10. Then I do format track (0x05). The problem is that sector 0 is missing on all the tracks. I have checked my code thoroughly, and it is setting up the format table correctly. I just don't understand why it won't work... Help! _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From whitefish.rtsg.mot.com!macenski Mon Aug 10 11:15:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 11:15 PDT Received: from rtsg.mot.com ([136.182.254.10]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA09577; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:13:39 CDT Received: from catfish5.. by rtsg.mot.com (4.0/SMI-4.1) id AA05457; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:13:27 CDT Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:13:27 CDT From: macenski@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com (Charles D. Macenski) Message-Id: <9208101813@catfish5> To: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: Using a PC to format EPS disks??? Cc: eps@reed.edu Well, I have done what you are trying and I have a suggestion or two. First off, did you create a table of sector addresses to be passed into the format track call (0x05). I believe you pass the address of the table is ES:?? when you make the call. This table should have 10 entries with sector addresses of 0 - 9. Secondly, to get 10 tracks in without overlapping I seem to recall needing to change an inter-track spacing value. Your problem (our problem really...) is that the PC's BIOS was NOT written as a bios for the PC hardware per se, but rather as a bios that will support PC-DOS (what a kludge). If you are still having probs, let me know and I will upload some source that is known to work. Chuck From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 11:31:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 11:31 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2661>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 14:30:44 -0400 To: macenski@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com (Charles D. Macenski) cc: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu, eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: Using a PC to format EPS disks??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Aug 92 14:13:27 EDT." <9208101813@catfish5> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 14:30:39 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.143044edt.2661@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Could you mail me the source? I don't want to go traipsing about altering disk parameters when I have no documentation of them. BTW, I was using the correct format table... it seems like sector 9 over- writes the ID data for sector 0. If you can tell me how to change the gap... --- Mike P.S. Thanks! From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Mon Aug 10 12:43:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 12:42 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA21178 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Mon, 10 Aug 1992 12:42:42 -0700 Received: by sounds.wa.com (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA18790; Mon, 10 Aug 92 11:16:09 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 11:16:09 PDT From: sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Message-Id: <9208101816.AA18790@ sounds.wa.com > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: Michael Chen Subject: Re: Using a PC to format EPS disks??? Cc: eps@reed.edu | Aargh! In trying to put a formatter in my utilities, I can't get the | !@^&%$ PC drive to format right. I do the BIOS (int 0x13) calls to set | media type (0x18). Then, since the format routine reads the number of | sectors per track from the INT 1E disk paramter table, I copy and | install my own, fudging the sectors per track entry to 10. Then I do | format track (0x05). | The problem is that sector 0 is missing on all the tracks. I have | checked my code thoroughly, and it is setting up the format table | correctly. I just don't understand why it won't work... | Help! Michael (and all), It's been a while since I worked with PC BIOS disk calls, but I think I might have an idea what your problem is. In addition to setting the number of sectors, you must also give BIOS a list of sectors to place on the track. I think that this is intended to allow you to change the order of the sectors for the interleave. In your case, you must also list the extra sector which is numbered zero, or else it will not be written during formatting. It might be important to experiment with the ordering of the sectors to find out the fastest interleave for an Ensoniq drive (which may vary between each machine or even operating system version). It might be a good idea to allow users of your formatting program to select custom interleaving. You may not be able to do better than Ensoniq, but with the wrong interleave you could easily format a floppy with a very slow read access time on the EPS. The following is copied verbatim from IBM's PC Technical Reference manual (without permission...) in the section listing the BIOS source code: ; : ; REGISTERS FOR READ/WRITE/VERIFY/FORMAT : ; (DL) - DRIVE NUMBER (0-3 ALLOWED, VALUE CHECKED) : ; (DH) - HEAD NUMBER (0-1 ALLOWED, NOT VALUE CHECKED) : ; (CH) - TRACK NUMBER (0-39, NOT VALUE CHECKED) : ; (CL) - SECTOR NUMBER (1-8, NOT VALUE CHECKED, : ; NOT USED FOR FORMAT) : ; (AL) - NUMBER OF SECTORS ( MAX = 8, NOT VALUE CHECKED, NOT USED : ; FOR FORMAT) : ; (ES:BX) - ADDRESS OF BUFFER ( NOT REQUESTED FOR VERIFY) : ; : ; (AH)=2 READ THE DESIRED SECTORS INTO MEMORY : ; (AH)=3 WRITE THE DESIRED SECTORS FROM MEMORY : ; (AH)=4 VERIFY THE DESIRED SECTORS : ; (AH)=5 FORMAT THE DESIRED TRACK : ; FOR THE FORMAT OPERATION, THE BUFFER POINTER (ES:BX) : ; MUST POINT TO THE COLLECTION OF DESIRED ADDRESS FIELDS : ; FOR THE TRACK. EACH FIELD IS COMPOSED OF 4 BYTES, : ; (C,H,R,N), WHERE C = TRACK NUMBER, H=HEAD NUMBER, : ; R = SECTOR NUMBER, N= NUMBER OF BYTES PER SECTOR : ; (00=128, 01=256, 02=512, 03=1024). THERE MUST BE ONE : ; ENTRY FOR EVERY SECTOR ON THE TRACK. THIS INFORMATION : ; IS USED TO FIND THE REQUESTED SECTOR DURING READ/WRITE : ; ACCESS. : ; : The last time I was exposed to this was while working on OS/2 at Microsoft and we were trying to provide multitasking support for all of the obscure BIOS features. You might want to find a good BIOS reference for a better explanation of this since I might be a little rusty after 2 years. If you still can't figure it out, try calling Gary Giebler at Giebler Enterprises, 315/652-5741, M-F 10AM-9PM EST, and ask him how he did it. Back when I purchased his Ensoniq Disk Manager software, he was more than willing to explain how he did it and what compatibility problems he ran into with third-party BIOS ROMs. I don't know if he is still willing to give out that info, since he might be losing potential sales, but it's worth a try. P.S. I cc'd the mailing list so that this information will make it into the archives and so that anyone who wants to try their hand at a PC-based Ensoniq disk formatter will have a place to start. --- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE BrianW@SoundS.WA.com SoundSoftware NeXTmail welcome From mpgs.enet.dec.com!omalley Mon Aug 10 13:07:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 16.1.240.15 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:07 PDT Received: by enet-gw.pa.dec.com; id AA11765; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:07:05 -0700 Message-Id: <9208102007.AA11765@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> Received: from mpgs.enet; by decwrl.enet; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:07:07 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:07:07 PDT From: 10-Aug-1992 1604 To: eps_dist@Pa.dec.com Apparently-To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sir No-Mix-a-lot I hate to change the subject from product futures, but here's what is probably a FAQ from the past. I recently bought an EPS Classic and I'm having problems getting instruments mixed in a sequence or song. I've tried setting the volume on the instrument page, the sequencer page and the song page, nothing seems to work. I should say, with the sequencer in loop mode, the mix works until the next loop comes around, then switches back to volume=99. I'm aware that I could re-save the instrument with a different volume, but this would create more problems (disks) than I am willing to deal with. My operating system is V2.49. Thanks for any help you can give. Peter O'Malley From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 13:22:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:22 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2620>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 16:21:50 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL's disk formatter works! Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 16:21:45 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.162150edt.2620@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Thanks to all who gave me info... the formatter is up and running. It formats the disk as 80 tracks, 2 heads, and 10 sectors/track. The problem was simply that the data for sector 9 was overwriting the data for sector 0! Once I found the right gap setting (0x30 seems OK), it was all better. And to answer a few questions sent me: I don't know if the EPS will handle a 9-sector disk. I'll play with my formatter and see, but it may be a while until I get to it. What am I trying to accomplish with this software? I'm trying to provide a solid EPS utility in one file (no explosion of different EXE files), for my own use and others'. I am an advocate of the shareware/freeware "pay for it if you use it" ideal, with the added modification "if you can afford it" to help poor college students like myself. Send me wish lists. I'm probably going to revamp my code so that it can at least detect funky EPS disks (NOT 10-sector, 80-track, 2-head), and then try out the 9-sector format as requested. Oh, and if people can send me what they know about the instrument structure (and all the other kinds of files), I'd appreciate it. EPSUTIL.ZIP is at nextweek.reed.edu (soon to be named avarice, they say). It's for the IBM PC class of computers, and lets you read and write raw disk images, as well as verify (and format, now) disks. There is a sector editor which uses the 43-line mode; for that, you need EGA/VGA. Hope you like it (use it... send blurbs and cash... :-) ) _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 13:42:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:41 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2676>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 16:41:00 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Interleaving is a really bad idea... Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 16:40:55 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.164100edt.2676@groucho.cs.psu.edu> A followup to the custom interleave idea: I just tried it, and it was the slowest thing I've seen the EPS do. It was even slow on the PC to verify it! Apparently, the controller on the EPS is fast enough to do 1:1 properly. Of course, now I want to know if the EPS can handle 1.44M drives... (if a formatting utility is written to format them...) _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From dacnet.com!tom Mon Aug 10 13:52:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.77.177.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 13:51 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA24628; Mon, 10 Aug 92 16:51:33 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: Re: EPSUTIL's disk formatter works! To: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 16:51:31 EDT Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <92Aug10.162150edt.2620@groucho.cs.psu.edu>; from "Michael Chen" at Aug 10, 92 4:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] > Send me wish lists. I'm probably going to revamp my code so that it can at > least detect funky EPS disks (NOT 10-sector, 80-track, 2-head), and then try > out the 9-sector format as requested. I think it would be neat if you could build some kind of compress into the utility. I think it would be pretty easy to dig up some compression code from the net. This would be nice for because, at least for me, it takes several hops before I can actually get the image to a PC. I think it would also be cool if we could break out individual instruments. Then you could store individual instruments on your PC/whatever, then when you want to use them, the program could take a list of instruments/etc and build up an EPS disk with those files. That way, you wouldn't have to download an 800k image to get that one 50-100k instrument that you want. From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 14:19:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 14:19 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2679>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 17:19:23 -0400 To: Tom Roehl cc: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen), eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: EPSUTIL's disk formatter works! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Aug 92 16:51:31 EDT." <92Aug10.165123edt.2676@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 17:19:07 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.171923edt.2679@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Yeah, compression would be cool. But right now I'm more concerned about adding new features (like file I/O) than optimizing what already works. About the file I/O idea: That's what I was just going to work on next! I would like to pack the device id, OS id, and FAT some more. But basically, you'd have a volume file with those, and maybe the root directory --- why not? You'd also have a bunch of files (oh, say, in .EFE format, since it's very simple). The problem with this approach is subdirectories. You'd have to be able to say what the path should be for the file. Hmm, maybe I won't use .EFE after all. But in any case, I'm going to work on an image format which looks at the FAT to see which sectors should be stored. I mean, you can include the 0 block whole as a descriptive label (which is usually what it's used for), then have the 40-byte device ID (instead of 512), then the 30-byte OS block (instead of 512), the root directory (why not keep it whole, for ease of reconstruction), then the crunched/mutilated FAT followed by the relevant sectors in order. Once I get something like this coded, I'll post the format and update the EPSUTIL file at nextweek... Till then, see ya! _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From rsinc.com!keith Mon Aug 10 14:20:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.5.156.17 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 14:20 PDT Received: by gateway.rsinc.com (rsinc-gateway.920524) Mon, 10 Aug 92 15:20:11 MDT Return-Path: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 15:20:11 MDT From: Keith R. Crosley Message-Id: <9208102120.AA01776@gateway.rsinc.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Mixing EPS tracks. Peter O'Malley asks: >I recently bought an EPS Classic and I'm having problems getting >instruments mixed in a sequence or song. I've tried setting the volume >on the instrument page, the sequencer page and the song page, nothing >seems to work. I should say, with the sequencer in loop mode, the mix works >until the next loop comes around, then switches back to volume=99. Somebody has probably answered this question for you already, but what you need to do is put your machine in RECORD mode while you diddle the slider on the volume page. I'm not sure, but I think that in sequence mode, you can only set the INITIAL volume. Go to your sequence, set record mode to ADD. Then go to the track volume page. Set the volume to the proper amount. Now put the sequencer in record. You need only record about 1-2 bars for the volume change to be duly noted. On song tracks, you can record not only the initial volume, but also record you diddling of the data slider. Follow the same procedure as above, but with a SONG selected, instead of just a sequence. >I'm aware that I could re-save the instrument with a different volume, but >this would create more problems (disks) than I am willing to deal with. Actually, instrument volume is saved with the BANK information. No need to save different versions! Hope this helps! --- Keith Crosley (keith@rsinc.com) From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 18:19:07 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 18:19 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2678>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 21:18:52 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL upgraded again!?! (Three times in a day!) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 21:18:44 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.211852edt.2678@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Yup, I upgraded EPSUTIL again! This version (1.20) has its own file format (.EUI) which ignores any sector that's marked as bad or empty in the FAT. Basically, it makes image files of disks that aren't chock full a lot smaller. The EPS OS v2.49 disk went from the GKH 819,200 + 58 bytes to ~109K bytes, and that's with sixteen 2-block MIDI instruments and two 3-block banks. So, this should help quite a bit for the monster 819,200+58 byte archive at nextweek. It doesn't hurt that EPSUTIL is a freeware/shareware thing; so, any person (with an IBM PC) who can get to nextweek can use it, and the really rich people who use it can give me McDonald's money. (I can dream, can't I?) But for those who haven't read the last two messages, EPSUTIL will read and write raw disk images (819,200 bytes), .EUI files (size varies according to how full the disk is), verify disks, format disks, and edit an EPS disk by sector (this last feature at present requires EGA/VGA for 43-line mode). Writing an .EUI file to an EPS disk is a little slow right now, because I haven't put in code to check for adjacent sectors yet. When I do, you'll see another one of these lovely notes... But the read to .EUI function is just as fast as anything else I've seen. Hope this helps! The docs for the EUI file format are in the EPSUTIL.ZIP file. And to answer a few questions before I go: The EPS seems to use 1:1 interleave. This is apparently a good idea, since 2:1 interleave is slow as hell. In fact, it was SO bad I didn't try anything else. But I'll try then, and get back to you. For now, though, it seems that the simple 1:1 interleave is also the fastest. (As fast as a floppy gets...) The file I/O is still coming... you'll hear when I have it. Why would someone with a floppy use subdirectories? When they're using it as a controller/sequencer for their SQ-R, and they keep hitting the 39-file limit. Trust me. _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 18:28:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 18:28 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2675>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 21:27:55 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Disk image compression... Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 21:27:41 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.212755edt.2675@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Well, personally I think that all of the files at nextweek should be hit with either compress or zip to make the ftp traffic lighter. As far as using compression from within the utility, I'm not sure what this does to all of the people who have computers for which the particular utility is not available. I mean, EPSUTIL is only a PC utility (because it's the only computer I have), and the .EUI format is easy enough for anyone to implement. But when you start using LZW or some other compression on top of that, it makes it that much harder to use the file format with anything but the utility which creates it. Comments? _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 19:15:00 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 19:14 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2660>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 22:14:44 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL again (just a little change this time) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 22:14:43 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug10.221444edt.2660@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Well, yes, it's upgraded again. The reason is that the .EUI write to an EPS disk now does adjacent sectors quickly. I have been using the EPS OS 2.49 disk as my test file, and the write was done so fast I didn't believe it worked right. But hey, it boots just fine, and I'm happy. BTW, there's no reason not to use .EUI, since it saves at least 2874 for any disk, and a lot more if the disk isn't full. Not that I want to aggressively "merchandise" my free/share/underwater-ware program, but since it always makes smaller files, why not use it to replace GKH? And to alleviate my personal confusion, I've started appending the version number to the zip file. So, the latest is epsutil121.zip (as of now). If anyone has actually downloaded 1.21 in the last hour (update time?), go back and get 1.21, since nothing's broken and it's faster for what's important. _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From horde Mon Aug 10 20:12:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 20:11 PDT Message-Id: To: Michael Chen cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Disk image compression... In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 10 Aug 92 21:27:41 EDT. <92Aug10.212755edt.2675@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 20:11:54 -0700 From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" In message <92Aug10.212755edt.2675@groucho.cs.psu.edu> you write: > Well, personally I think that all of the files at nextweek should be hit >with either compress or zip to make the ftp traffic lighter. Umm...I'm a bit confused here. Last I checked, all the samples were compressed. Is something going on that I don't know? -Heiji From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Mon Aug 10 20:47:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 20:47 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #2372 ) id <01GNFNHDIS68A9L6NP@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Mon, 10 Aug 1992 23:47:39 EDT Date: 10 Aug 1992 23:47:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: OS-specific compression problems To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GNFNHDIS6AA9L6NP@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > From: "Michael Chen" 10-AUG-1992 22:06:38.04 > Subj: Disk image compression... > > Well, personally I think that all of the files at nextweek should be hit > with either compress or zip to make the ftp traffic lighter. > Michael Chen The timing of this thread is perfect. I have finally figured out why I can't get EPSREAD and EPSWRITE to run. It is because I don't have a UNIX machine. So, the hello.txt instruction "If the file ends with .Z, uncompress the file" is impossible for me. Could MS-DOS utilities be posted in .ZIP format instead? I can FTP ZIP files to my VMS system, kermit them to my PC, and unZIP them without any trouble at all. BTW, Michael's utilities work wonderfully! There is a corollary question about how I can get to samples. Same problem... Note that, if anyone has a direct uncompress utility that I could use on binary files directly from MS-DOS, it would solve my problem. -Tom Williams From horde Mon Aug 10 20:59:23 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 20:59 PDT Message-Id: To: Tom Williams cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: OS-specific compression problems In-reply-to: Your message of 10 Aug 92 23:47:39 EDT. <01GNFNHDIS6AA9L6NP@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 20:59:14 -0700 From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" In message <01GNFNHDIS6AA9L6NP@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> you write: > Could MS-DOS utilities be posted in .ZIP format instead? I > can FTP ZIP files to my VMS system, kermit them to my PC, > and unZIP them without any trouble at all. this is a possibility. all I need is someone to tell me which files are msdos specific and I can convert things that are in there. also, if there are specific utilities for specific machines, then it would be nice if they were down/uploaded in compression programs for that machine. That way when anyone new comes in they can just grabe utils with the right (dot) ending. (ex. .sit, .zip, .lzh) > Note that, if anyone has a direct uncompress utility that I > could use on binary files directly from MS-DOS, it would > solve my problem. I thought that there was a version of unix compress/uncompress for msdos. someone must have one since almost all the samples on the ftp site are unix compress to save disk space. -heiji (horde@reed.edu) From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 21:30:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 21:30 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2681>; Tue, 11 Aug 1992 00:30:19 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: MS-DOS uncompress Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 00:30:08 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug11.003019edt.2681@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Yeah, there's one at nextweek, isn't there? It's called comp430 or something such. -- Mike From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Mon Aug 10 23:03:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 10 Aug 92 23:02 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2679>; Tue, 11 Aug 1992 02:02:53 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL 1.22 --- user-adjustable interleave Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 02:02:38 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug11.020253edt.2679@groucho.cs.psu.edu> That's it. --- Mike From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Tue Aug 11 10:01:23 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 Aug 92 10:00 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 11 Aug 92 13:00:18 EDT Date: 11 Aug 92 12:58:35 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Re: Sir No-Mix-a-lot To: omalley@mpgs.enet.dec.com CC: eps@reed.edu Subject: RE>Sir No-Mix-a-lot Peter writes; >I hate to change the subject from product futures, but here's what is >probably a FAQ from the past. > >I recently bought an EPS Classic and I'm having problems getting >instruments mixed in a sequence or song. I've tried setting the volume >on the instrument page, the sequencer page and the song page, nothing >seems to work. I should say, with the sequencer in loop mode, the mix works >until the next loop comes around, then switches back to volume=99. Sounds like your getting a program/patch change. You can erase controller and/or patch change info under the command\track page (I believe). mike a. From ecn.purdue.edu!del Tue Aug 11 10:32:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 Aug 92 10:32 PDT Received: from localhost by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA15636; Tue, 11 Aug 92 12:32:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9208111732.AA15636@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: Michael Chen Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: EPSUTIL upgraded again!?! (Three times in a day!) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 10 Aug 92 21:18:44 -0400." <92Aug10.211852edt.2678@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 12:32:01 -0500 From: David A Whittemore you may want to check your formatter (or my disk drive!) my PC is an ATT&T 6386. disks formatted by EPSUTIL give "bad device ID" when put into the EPS16. as well - disks formatted by the EPS, but written by EPSUTIL would also give "bad device ID". i have sucessfully used EPSWRITE with my drive, so i suspect there may be a problem with the formatter - even though it completes format/verify without error. -david From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Aug 11 11:13:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 Aug 92 11:13 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2677>; Tue, 11 Aug 1992 14:13:13 -0400 To: David A Whittemore cc: Michael Chen , eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: EPSUTIL upgraded again!?! (Three times in a day!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Aug 92 13:32:01 EDT." <9208111732.AA15636@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 14:13:08 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug11.141313edt.2677@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Hmm. I wish I had a 16 Plus so I could verify it for myself. I wonder if the 16 Plus needs some extra parameters in the device block that the Classic does not. Also, I've been using my system to test it, which is a 386SX-25 with 2 megs of RAM (irrelevant) and a 1.44 MB floppy. It' is possible, I suppose, that the format parameters for the high-density drive shouldn't be the same as the parameters for a low-density drive. Also, make sure you're using the latest (v1.22), because one of the old versions wrote an extra byte to the device block. I didn't think I uploaded the buggy version, but just in case, grab the new one. Anyone have better insight into this format problem than me? --- Mike From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Aug 11 13:00:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 Aug 92 13:00 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2685>; Tue, 11 Aug 1992 15:59:56 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL again: v1.23 adds gap length control Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 15:59:55 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug11.155956edt.2685@groucho.cs.psu.edu> There is a new update at nextweek that allows the user to specify the interleave and gap length manually. For those having problems with the formatter, please help me out by playing with the gap length parameter and seeing if it helps. If the standard gap length (48) doesn't work, and you find that some other value does, please mail me so I can use that setting as the default (assuming it works on mine). The gap length is the distance between sectors when formatting. If this value is too high, the data for the tenth sector overwrites the data for the first one. If it is too small... well, to be honest, I'm not sure, but I bet it would increase sector not found and the like. The interleave is for fine-tuning performance once you've found the right gap length. Basically, it determines what the numbering of the sectors on the track should be. For interleave 1, the sectors are their normal order (that is, 0123456789). For interleave 2, there is a jump of at least 2 between adjacent sectors, so the order becomes 0246813579. This matters if the drive makes it more (or less) than one full revolution around by the time it gets to the next call. If the interleave is set properly the system doesn't have to wait for the next sector to spin around. Note that for the standard gap length (48), there doesn't seem to be any interleave setting that works bvetter than the default of 1. Have at it! _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Aug 11 13:20:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 Aug 92 13:19 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2681>; Tue, 11 Aug 1992 16:19:46 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Interleave? Ooops... Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 16:19:35 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug11.161946edt.2681@groucho.cs.psu.edu> It occurs to me that I defined (and implemented) interleave wrong. Now that I think about it, interleave is (I believe) the distance between each pair of successive logical sectors. So, interleave 2 would give 0516273849 instead of 0246813579, which is interleave 5. Oops... watch for v1.24 to fix this soon. --- Mike From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Tue Aug 11 14:14:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 Aug 92 14:13 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2684>; Tue, 11 Aug 1992 17:13:38 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSUTIL v1.24 --- minor fixes Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 17:13:28 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug11.171338edt.2684@groucho.cs.psu.edu> EPSUTIL v1.24 has been uploaded. This version does interleave properly, and shows the right sector numbers when writing an EUI-format file to an EPS disk. Please keep me posted about problems with formatting. Also, if anyone has (gasp!) documentation on formatting IBM disks, please forward this info to me. Make some noise! _____________________________________________________________________________ | Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors | | | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... | | mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 | \_______________________________\___________________________________________| From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Aug 11 20:55:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 11 Aug 92 20:55 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA26306; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:56:29 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25759; Wed, 12 Aug 92 10:54:55 WST Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 10:54:55 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9208120254.AA25759@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Warning (About disks) Remember kiddies, that when you are using any of the utilities avaliable at nextweek.reed.edu to format/copy disks off the net and via email to use... ONLY DS/DD disks (Double Dided, Double Density) don't try to use HD floppies. I wwarn you all because It came to me that some of the problems you have been having may be related to this. Reason...EPS disk drive is set up for DS/DD Scott. From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Aug 12 01:08:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 01:07 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA05062; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:07:46 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26455; Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:06:07 WST Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:06:07 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9208120806.AA26455@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Rumouring again (Storage) After a conversation with a friend who has recently spent some time at Ensoniq R&D looking at the new stuff they are working on, it may be of interest to know that nearly everything had a FLOPTICAL drive hanging off it :-) The floptical drive can read 800k, 1.4Meg and 20Meg disks. Interesting... Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Aug 12 01:45:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 01:45 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2682>; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 04:45:34 -0400 To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) cc: eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: Rumouring again (Storage) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Aug 92 04:06:07 EDT." <9208120806.AA26455@psy.uwa.edu.au> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 04:45:26 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug12.044534edt.2682@groucho.cs.psu.edu> That's neat... if a) it doesn't cost all that much, b) the magneto-optical 20 MB disks are reliable over the long term, and c) if the 20 MB disks don't cost a ridiculous amount of money (which seems to be the problem with the new 2.88 MB drives floating around). I don't suppose we mortal types could ever get a peek (subliminally, job) at Ensoniq's R&D... --- Mike P.S. Anyone have any idea on what the replacement for the EPS will be? Things I'd love: * a real-sized screen; why not a LCD panel like they use in portables? * a better way of entering alphanumerics (a real keyboard?) * a weighted keyboard a la KS-32 * multiple effects processors a la DP-4 * MIDI merging, and maybe more than one in/out/thru (so I can use it as a proper controller) * standard flash EEPROM for the operating system (why use an OS disk, except to update it?) * less unexplainable bugs or quirks (no 8.04.47 quantize bug) I guess that's enough for now (before the drool shorts out my keyboard). From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Aug 12 01:55:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 01:55 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA26493; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:03:46 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25797; Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:02:13 WST Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:02:13 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9208120302.AA25797@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: ThTHThhtTHttHTht OK Slackers :-) Time for my semi-annual TH drive, if you are not subscribed to TH then read this... ************************* Transoniq Hacker ***************************** Transoniq Hacker (TH) is an independent users support magazine for Ensoniq products. 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There is no-way (practically) that you will get your fingers burnt with them, if you don't like TH you get ALL your money back. First time subscribers get a special deal, 12 monthly issues for $18 US ($25 All others outside the USA) This is $5 off the subscription price. Special "skeptics" deal is 3 issues (3 months) for $5 US ($7 Non US). After the first year you revert to... $23/year (US$32 outside the US). HOW TO SUBSCRIBE? Three methods... 1) Mail your cheque (payable to "Transoniq Hacker") OR your (Mastercard/Visa) number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to... Transoniq Hacker 1402 SW Upland Drive, Portland, OR 97221. Phone: 503/227-6848 (8 a.m. to 9 p.m. PST). 2) Phone their TOLL-FREE 1-800-548-8925 (US only) and give your Mastercard/Visa number and expiry date with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code to the answering machine (24 Hour service). 3) Alternatively and this is a real PLUS!! you can contact Eric (the publisher and owner of TH) via Compuserve on... 73260.3353@compuserve.com You can give your (Mastercard/Visa) details to him over the net, with details of address, city, state, zip or post-code. Why not drop him a line and have a chat about TH (say Scott sent you, Eric will go ... Eh? What? Who is that? :-) The other good thing about having email contact with TH is that you can send in letters/articles easily and quickly and have a chat to Eric at the same time. ************************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to gain by supporting TH (well I do occasionaly get mony from them for articles I write :-), I am simply a satisfied customer, trying to help fellow EPS users. I live in Australia so you don't frighten me if you get upset anyway :-) You don't have a ticket here do you? _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Wed Aug 12 06:19:57 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 06:19 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #2372 ) id <01GNHKXRXLDSAJKNGA@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:18:46 EDT Date: 12 Aug 1992 09:18:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: More Wish List items... To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GNHKXRXLDUAJKNGA@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > From: "Michael Chen" > Subj: RE: Rumouring again (Storage) > > P.S. Anyone have any idea on what the replacement for the EPS will be? > Things I'd love: > * a real-sized screen; why not a LCD panel like they use in portables? Yeah; even a CGA (like Gateway's 'handbook') would be nice. Make it both backlit (for night) and reflective (for outdoors). > * a better way of entering alphanumerics (a real keyboard?) They could use the numeric entry keys; 1->A, 9->I, 11->J 111->S, terminate with the Yes key... > * standard flash EEPROM for the operating system (why use an OS disk, > except to update it?) 24- or 32-bit address space would be nice, too. Here are some more suggestions, some of which originate in the days of old Moog modular systems: o Keyboard from A to C. I do not understand why the range of a keyboard should be based on a bass guitar; I would *love* a 76-note, A-to-C keyboard. Then I could use the left footswitch to shift the range by one octave, giving me an entire piano range. o More mono modes for layers. Currently, there is only last-note priority; I would like to add top- and bottom-note priority. Then you could play a two-note chord, keeping the flute on the top and the English horn on the bottom. It would also allow you to double the bass or double the soprano line. o While we're at it, add top and bottom key position as routable modulators. A 'portamento' on this would be useful too. You could, for instance, play a lol C with your left hand, and use your right hand to open up the filter (based on what key your right hand hits). o Another modulator: a Ribbon controller. This might be better on a strap-on keyboard controller; they're very intuitive, and fun to watch during a performance. o Damper pedal sould be continuous, like all the sampled grands have nowadays. Gimme a sostenuto pedal, too. (Does the 16-plus have a sostenuto function for the left footswitch?) A continuous damper pedal could double as another controller. o Some kind of synthesis. Even additive synthesis would be nice. o Waveform modulation. I am not talking about transwaves, which just step through a table of sounds that the Engineers chose for you; I want AM, FM, PWM, Sync, and Ring. One other requirement: the price has to remain less than $2500 US.... -Tom Williams Alderson-Broaddus College WILLIAMS@AB.WVNET.EDU From mail.uunet.ca!web.apc.org!becker!bdb Wed Aug 12 08:31:55 1992 Return-Path: <@mail.uunet.ca:becker!bdb@web.apc.org> Received: from 137.39.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 08:31 PDT Received: from mail.uunet.ca (via uunet.ca) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA12515; Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:31:37 -0400 Received: from web.apc.org ([142.77.253.8]) by mail.uunet.ca with SMTP id <9886>; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:31:26 -0400 Received: by web.apc.org (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:31 GMT Received: by becker.GTS.ORG (smail2.5/bdb-15Aug90) id AA08750; Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:19:20 EDT (-0400) Newsgroups: eps Path: bdb From: bdb@becker.gts.org (Bruce Becker) Subject: Re: EPSUTIL's disk formatter works! Message-Id: <1992Aug12.151643.8656@becker.GTS.ORG> Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario References: <92Aug10.162150edt.2620@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:16:43 -0400 To: eps@reed.edu In article <92Aug10.162150edt.2620@groucho.cs.psu.edu> mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) writes: | Send me wish lists. I'm probably going to revamp my code so that it can at |least detect funky EPS disks (NOT 10-sector, 80-track, 2-head), and then try |out the 9-sector format as requested. What is available for the Amiga to use? Does the software come with source code in case one wants to try porting it? -- ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario a /i/ Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org Uucp: ...!web!becker!bdb `\o\-e "The word 'AT&T' is made up of letters, which are the _< /_ intellectual property of Vanna White" - A. Coopersmith From dacnet.com!tom Wed Aug 12 08:50:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.77.177.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 08:50 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA12410; Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:49:17 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: Funky Disk Formats To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq Mailing List) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:49:15 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] In article <92Aug10.162150edt.2620@groucho.cs.psu.edu> mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) writes: | Send me wish lists. I'm probably going to revamp my code so that it can at |least detect funky EPS disks (NOT 10-sector, 80-track, 2-head), and then try |out the 9-sector format as requested. I'm not sure if I'm missing something or not, but how could you ever have a disk that is not 10-sector, 80-track, 2-head??? I mean, an EPS can only read that type of disk. From itd.nrl.navy.mil!adamson Wed Aug 12 09:51:57 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.60.2.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 09:50 PDT Received: by itd.nrl.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13615; Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:50:48 EDT From: adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Brian Adamson) Message-Id: <9208121650.AA13615@itd.nrl.navy.mil> Subject: EPSUTIL v1.24 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:50:47 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] To Michael Chen & other interested parties: I still get the "ADDRESS MARK NOT FOUND!" error (this is on the PC) when using the verify command of EPSUTIL 1.24. I noticed this time (probably has been the case with past versions, too) that the same error message comes up during formatting. -- The formatting process works up through track 80. I get the message "Writing signature block..." Then I immediately get the message "ADDRESS MARK NOT FOUND!" I assume that EPSUTIL is failing to write the signature block... I'm going to try different GAP settings per Mike's suggestion. Does anyone have any suggestions what to try. In regards to Scott's comment, I've using DS/DD disks all along (not HD). So the debug chase is on! -- Brian Adamson NRL Code 5523 adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil From HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU!LIETH Wed Aug 12 12:38:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.183.100.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:37 PDT Received: from HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU by HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (PMDF #2379 ) id <01GNHZCQRRTC8WWCDV@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU>; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:37:16 EST Date: 12 Aug 1992 15:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: LIETH@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Subject: request for info To: EPS@reed.edu Message-id: <01GNHZCQRRTE8WWCDV@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU> X-VMS-To: EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, I am an EPS user, and I have heard that there is a discussion group. Is it possible to join the discussion, and if so, how do I access the site? Thank you for the info, Erich Lieth. From descartes.uwaterloo.ca!undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjfennem Wed Aug 12 16:00:57 1992 Return-Path: <@descartes.uwaterloo.ca:rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Received: from 129.97.140.253 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:59 PDT Received: by descartes.uwaterloo.ca id <246516>; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:59:16 -0400 Subject: New Disk at Nextweek !!! From: "Ryan J. Fennema" To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:59:03 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Message-Id: <92Aug12.185916edt.246516@descartes.uwaterloo.ca> Well, there's a new disk at Nextweek. The following is a copy of the xroads.doc file that I sent with it. Enjoy, Ryan. rjfennem@descartes.waterloo.edu __________________________________________________________________________ Another EPS-16+ disk!!! The file in pub/incoming is called xroads.gkh. It would not compress any smaller than the 819,000 bytes using UNIX compress. When I was given this demo, I was told it was public domain. If it is, ENJOY!! If it isn't, please delete it Heiji. (Thanks). Xroads.gkh contains a .gkh disk image file of a demo by the name of "Cross Roads". This is a 1 disk demo. If you liked the "B.B. King" demo, you'll love the CrossRoads demo. Guarenteed to raise an eyebrow, or two! "Can a keyboard do that?" - bewildered friend. Sorry I don't have a better file listing than this .... but I'm writing what I know. Files: Tina Brass - Synth Brass sound Gary Moore - smooth LA guitar sound Dist Guitar - distortion guitar like Ensoniq's boxed one. PP Rock Kit - Drum set in the 'Rock Kit' vein. Joseph - sampled vocals. Mostly singing. Fat Basses - 50/50 split of two synth bass sounds. Harm/Hammond - split Harmonica (lower) and Hammond-type Organ (upper) Song: CrossRoads Bank: PPianoBank Effects used: Nothing too important, except the Dist Guitar relies on the 16+ distortion effect. From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Aug 12 16:17:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:16 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2690>; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:16:17 -0400 To: Tom Roehl cc: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq Mailing List), mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: Funky Disk Formats In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:49:15 EDT." Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:16:11 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug12.191617edt.2690@groucho.cs.psu.edu> Well, that's what someone else asked me, and I was intrigued. In the same way a PC can read 10 sector disks, the EPS might be able to read 720K disks if you specify it as such in the device block. But I haven't tried it yet. --- Mike From groucho.cs.psu.edu!mchen Wed Aug 12 16:19:22 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.203.2.10 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:18 PDT Received: from localhost by groucho.cs.psu.edu with SMTP id <2690>; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:18:04 -0400 To: bdb@becker.gts.org (Bruce Becker) cc: eps@reed.edu, mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu Subject: Re: EPSUTIL's disk formatter works! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:16:43 EDT." <1992Aug12.151643.8656@becker.GTS.ORG> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:17:49 -0400 From: Michael Chen Message-Id: <92Aug12.191804edt.2690@groucho.cs.psu.edu> I don't know what's there for the Amiga. Do you want the source code? I'm reluctant to post it, because it changes so frequently. But sure, if anyone wants it, I'll mail it. But if changes other than porting are made, either don't, or send the changes here so all of the versions are working on the same base. --- Mike From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Wed Aug 12 20:39:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:37 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA16424; Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:37:45 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA16616; Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:37:39 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa26098; 13 Aug 92 11:18 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <0bsw1o2@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 12 Aug 92 21:45 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: Back on-line! To: eps@reed.edu Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:44:38 MET Hi Gang, Im back from Barcelona now, I notice the group is purring along, bewdiful! If anyone has any problems or questions with Disk Wizard, I can now answer them. See ya, -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Aug 12 22:59:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:59 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA22451; Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:59:39 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28224; Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:58:07 WST Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:58:07 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9208130558.AA28224@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Demo >Message-Id: <92Aug12.185916edt.246516@descartes.uwaterloo.ca> > >The file in pub/incoming is called xroads.gkh. It would not compress any >smaller than the 819,000 bytes using UNIX compress. > >When I was given this demo, I was told it was public domain. >If it is, ENJOY!! >If it isn't, please delete it Heiji. (Thanks). Well it all looks OK apart from 1 thing the FX files. It appears the demo uses a WAVEBOY 2DIS+2CHOR+1REV type effect, I'll check it out when I can get it home and try it out....until then only Waveboy owwners may download this file and use it legally :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Thu Aug 13 00:00:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:59 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA24815; Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:58:53 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28360; Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:57:21 WST Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:57:21 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9208130657.AA28360@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Storage Hi EPS ers I am also on the DAT mailing list and I got this today, which is a reprint from sci.electronics. ------------------------------ From: jdavis@phred.UUCP (John Davis) Newsgroups: sci.electronics I came across this article in the news paper (Seattle times) so it has to be true :) (Reprinted without permission) "The dawn of the gigabyte - Firm developing $20 card to hold all data you want A small US company has invented a credit-card sized electronic storage device that could replace tapes and disks in every home and office use. The card could record and play back lengthy sound and video recording, and could store prodigiious amounts of computer data. Those who are familiar with the technology on which the card is based say it could store the contents of a half-dozen compact discs or a full length feature movie when used for audio or video. As a computer data storage device, the card could hold the equivalent of thousands of floppy disks or 25 typical hard disk drives, these sources say. The tiny storage device has been undergoing private tests for many months. But a few weeks ago its inventor, Sidney Urshan, revealed some of its details in a patent application. Urshan's company, Urshan Research Corp. of Los Angeles says the storage card will hold 1 gigabyte of data - a billion bytes or the equivalent of about 1000 paperback books - and will use a special compression method to squeeze even more data onto the card. The company says the card could cost as little as $20. Urshan Research says it will have prototype units ready in about six months. Industry sources say Apple Computer, AT&T and other U.S. companies have been supplying Urshan with equipment and know-how to get the device to market as quickly as possible. If it works as clamed, the card could launch a revolution in the storage retrieval of literally all kinds of material. Since it has no moving parts and takes up very little space, it could be a natural replacement for audio and video-cassettes and laser disks in a couple of years....." That is about 3/4 of the article (my fingers are tired and typing is NOT my specialty). The article does go on to say "AT&T has been working for three years with Urshan research to develop a service that would let anyone with a "compact card" reader receive a 90 minute move over improved phone lines in about three minutes." ------------------------------ Internet: DAT-Heads-Request@fuggles.acc.Virginia.EDU From HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU!LIETH Thu Aug 13 07:03:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.183.100.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 Aug 92 07:01 PDT Received: from HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU by HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (PMDF #2379 ) id <01GNJ1WO9Z2E8WWDHU@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU>; Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:01:24 EST Date: 13 Aug 1992 10:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: LIETH@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Subject: info request To: EPS@reed.edu Message-id: <01GNJ1WO9Z2G8WWDHU@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU> X-VMS-To: EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, I am an EPS user, and I have heard that there is a discussion group. Is it possible to join the discussion, and if so, how do I access the site? Thank you for the info, Erich Lieth. From wri.com!andre Thu Aug 13 08:53:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 Aug 92 08:52 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA29817 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:52:32 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 10:52:31 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9208131552.AA15623@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Storage Yeah, I read about Urshan's gigabyte card technology in MacWeek a few months ago. The article had essentially the same info as what was just posted...probably based on a standard press kit. I've heard nothing since, which I consider strange, since this could completely revolutionize the computer/electronis industry. I guess Urshan is working hard to protect the technology. If compression is involved, maybe it's not so revolutionary, as it may take a long time to write data to the card? An interesting side note is that Urshan has been developing this privately. I'm not sure, but I thought the MacWeek article said he was an electronics repairman and got into this, without a lot of engineering background??!! Sounds like the stuff of urban myth... AK From HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU!LIETH Thu Aug 13 12:16:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.183.100.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 Aug 92 12:16 PDT Received: from HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU by HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (PMDF #2379 ) id <01GNJCX527FQ8WWE2P@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU>; Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:16:31 EST Date: 13 Aug 1992 15:16:31 -0500 (EST) From: LIETH@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Subject: send no more To: EPS@reed.edu Message-id: <01GNJCX527FS8WWE2P@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU> X-VMS-To: EPS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To all who received my duplicate request for information, let it be known that I now have all I need to get started. There is no need to send me any more responses. I apologize for the misleading sense of urgency imparted by the reiteration of my request. I merely resent the request because I had reason to believe the first one had been railroaded at my end. Thanks to all who took the time to help me out. Erich Lieth (LIETH@helix.mgh.harvard.edu) From CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!TULSAJC.BITNET!PTHOMAS Thu Aug 13 13:49:12 1992 Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:PTHOMAS@TULSAJC.BITNET> Received: from 128.228.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:49 PDT Received: from TULSAJC.BITNET by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3030; Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:48:46 EDT Received: from TULSAJC (PTHOMAS) by TULSAJC.BITNET (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 7504; Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:49:03 CDT Message-Id: 19920813.154901.PTHOMAS@TULSAJC Date: 13 Aug 92 15:49:00 CDT From: PTHOMAS%TULSAJC.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU To: EPS@REED.EDU Subject: EPS LIST From: PTHOMAS@TULSAJC Please subscribe me to this list From kurango.cit.gu.edu.au!richard Thu Aug 13 16:28:08 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.234.5.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:28 PDT Received: by kurango.cit.gu.edu.au id AA07590 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:30:13 +1000 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:30:13 +1000 From: Alzheimer Kid Message-Id: <199208132330.AA07590@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> To: andre@wri.com, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Storage In-Reply-To: Mail from 'andre@wri.com' dated: Thu, 13 Aug 92 10:52:31 -0500 > An interesting side note is that Urshan has been developing this > privately. I'm not sure, but I thought the MacWeek article said he > was an electronics repairman and got into this, without a lot of > engineering background??!! Sounds like the stuff of urban myth... I heard rumours of something like this several YEARS ago (1987) - through my father who works at the local telecommunications ex-monopoly. I asked about it in a few places, and the general reaction was ``what are you on????''. richard From pucc.PRINCETON.EDU!OUACCVMB.BITNET!CLEARY Fri Aug 14 18:24:30 1992 Return-Path: <@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU:CLEARY@OUACCVMB.BITNET> Received: from 128.112.129.99 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 14 Aug 92 18:24 PDT Message-Id: Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0454; Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:23:56 EDT Received: from OUACCVMB.BITNET (CLEARY) by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08 ptf039) with BSMTP id 2378; Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:23:55 EDT Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:23:43 EST To: eps@reed.edu From: CLEARY%OUACCVMB.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU Comment: CROSSNET mail via SMTP@INTERBIT Subject: eps Date: 14 August 92, 21:05:26 EST From: CLEARY at OUACCVMB To: EPS at REED.EDU Sub: Downloading I'm new on board this discussion group and anxious to send/receive sounds for the EPS 16+, but I need help. I can download files from my email account to my PC, but then what? Also, does anyone have a list of error messages and their meanings. Anyone know about an update of the Operating System. Version 1.10 needs work! Has anyone figured out how to accelerando or retard using the EPS 16+ sequencer? Writing one measure sequences and chaining them together at different tempos is a real drag. Even with its limitations, I've successfully sequenced the entire musical score of *Brigadoon* and *Oklahoma* for community theatre productions with amazing results. I would be interested in hearing about other qwirky applications of this relatively inexpensive but versatile machine. Cleary at Ouaccvmb From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Sat Aug 15 10:55:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 15 Aug 92 10:54 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <21617-0@pat.uio.no>; Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:54:24 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:54:18 +0200 Message-Id: <9208151754.AAfidibus01682@fidibus.uio.no> Sender: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: incoming noise - out? music? Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no I've uploaded an image in the incoming. It was really a respons to a post from Jaque Bussey written in May I'm just a little slow at times ( Uploading at 0.005 baud ) ). The original name of this was youdonthavetobeallthatsorryifyoudontlikethesoundonthisdiskwhenyoudownloadeda t2400baud_causeitaintlongonlyproblemistypingthename.gkh.Z * but how about just short.gkh.Z for short? So let it be. It's just one instrument ( or rather a sound packaged as an instrument). It is a vibraslap-type sound. I used to have this type on all my drumsets (pre eps) The midi-trigger-key was the lowest F on the keyboard so that's the "original pitch" of this sound. On this one the sample itself is made by a Karpus-Strong type algorithm. You can drop any percussive sample into the instrument template and get essentially this type of sound. If you play with it, the wheel and the aftertouch modulate the loops to yield a subtle variaton of tone color. The contents INST VIBRAKARP22 19 BLKS Feel free to remove it if not meeting the standards and scope of the archive. ====================== The instrument itself would occupy 9728 bytes since it is 19 blocks. These are packaged in a 800Kb image. After Unix compression my machine tell me it use 9577 bytes. To Tom Roehl ( and other BBS enthusiasts ) You are wellcome to have and use it to whatever you like (You should listen to it first, as it could scare away your customers ) However, none of the content of this note nor any traces to it's creator should accompany the file. Therefor there is no text in the incoming either. === * footnote, this name was in respons to Jaque's fear of having downloaded an 800 k disk at 2400 baud just to find out it was for the EPS16+ and he couldnt use it. So he suggested a naming convention and used the following name as an example: sampleofmescreamingcauseidownloadedthisat2400baudandcantuseit_sample+.gkh.Z //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ----------------------