From fscott.sco.COM!sco.sco.COM!jondr Mon Jul 20 15:30:53 1992 Return-Path: <@fscott.sco.COM:jondr@sco.sco.COM> Received: from 137.39.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 20 Jul 92 15:28 PDT Received: from sco.sco.COM by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA05175; Mon, 20 Jul 92 18:28:20 -0400 Received: from fscott.sco.COM by sco.sco.COM id ac06856; Mon, 20 Jul 92 15:28:27 PDT To: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Brian Willoughby's message of Fri, 17 Jul 92 13:37:44 PDT <9207172037.AA10187@ sounds.wa.com > Subject: FlashBank Question From: Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic Sender: jondr@sco.COM Reply-To: jondr@sco.COM Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 10:34:00 PDT Message-Id: <9207201034.aa26786@fscott.sco.COM> >My EPS with 4X memory (and no FLASHBANK) shows 4091 free system >blocks when booted. Have you ever tried loading flashbank sounds on >a machine which already has the maximum RAM? I have a hunch that a >machine which is already full of RAM would need to copy the >Instruments from flashbank to RAM in order to play them. Therefore, >I would assume that an EPS starting with 4000 free system blocks >would show that some were used after loading a sound off the >flashbank. we have a fully expanded EPS. the flashbank does NOT use main system ram, for the billionth time. the FB manual makes a big point of this. >Jon, I assume that you have a flashbank, considering your detailed >experience. I don't have one, but I am very curious to find out more >about them. Do you have an EPS 16+? Do flashbank cards work with >the standard EPS? Does the EPS 16+ report block sizes any >differently than the EPS? If the block sizes are not the same, then >my comments above may be incorrect, but I don't think so considering >the detailed specification sheet I have on the EPS 16+. an EPS 16+ block is the same as an EPS Classic block. flashbank mods do not work with EPS Classics. here's a question for the gurus - did the EPS Classic ever have a pan mod amount parameter? i could've sworn there used to be a way to limit the amount of mod a random pan gave you, but when i tried to find it no luck. on the EPS 16+ (yes we have both models in our studio), the parameter is where you'd expect to find it (Edit/AMP). Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ) uunet!sco!jondr jondr@sco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cram every action with precision. From nwnexus.wa.com!sounds!brianw Mon Jul 20 20:13:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 20 Jul 92 20:12 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA02379 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:15:17 -0700 Received: by sounds.wa.com (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA00843; Mon, 20 Jul 92 19:50:27 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 19:50:27 PDT From: sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Message-Id: <9207210250.AA00843@ sounds.wa.com > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Subject: Re: FlashBank Question | >My EPS with 4X memory (and no FLASHBANK) shows 4091 free system | >blocks when booted. Have you ever tried loading flashbank sounds on | >a machine which already has the maximum RAM? | >I would assume that an EPS starting with 4000 free system blocks | >would show that some were used after loading a sound off the | >flashbank. | | we have a fully expanded EPS. the flashbank does NOT use main system | ram, for the billionth time. the FB manual makes a big point of this. I didn't mean to upset you - I don't recall the millionth time you went over this, so I still have a few questions :-) Do you have a Rack or a Keyboard version of the EPS 16+? Does the manual mention installing both the ME-16 PLUS Memory Expander *AND* the FLASHBANK? How did you squeeze both in? How many free system blocks does your *fully expanded* EPS show at boot, before loading anything? Do you have the FB-1 or FB-2 (I assume that you have the 1 Mword FB-2)? Perhaps the manual makes a big point of not using up system RAM to make up for the fact that you can't install both memory options. | here's a question for the gurus - did the EPS Classic ever have a pan | mod amount parameter? i could've sworn there used to be a way to | limit the amount of mod a random pan gave you, but when i tried to | find it no luck. on the EPS 16+ (yes we have both models in our | studio), the parameter is where you'd expect to find it (Edit/AMP). All that the EPS Classic has for pan adjustment are two special output assignments - random pan & keyboard - in addition to the 8 preset pan positions and the 8 solo outputs. You're right, there is no parameter to scale the amount of random panning or keyboard panning (bummer, I'm stuck with this until there is a third-party EPS Classic OS). According to the External Command Specification, Oct. 4, 1990, the following WaveSample Parameters are specific to the EPS 16+: * Volume Fadecurve * Output Bus * Pan Modulation Source * Pan Position (in addition to the existing output assignment) * Pan Modulation Amount * Boost Switch * LFO Modulation Amount | Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ) uunet!sco!jondr jondr@sco.com Brian Willoughby SoundSoftware Bellevue, WA From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Tue Jul 21 04:07:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Jul 92 04:07 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #2372 ) id <01GMMR4T8PSG9QUWMY@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:07:31 EDT Date: 21 Jul 1992 07:07:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: EPS 13-Minus Panning To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GMMR4T8PSI9QUWMY@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT From: WVNET::IN%"sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com" 20-JUL-1992 23:20:40.73 To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" CC: Subj: RE: FlashBank Question Return-path: Received: from reed.edu by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #2372 ) id <01GMMAUUPHYO9QUVS4@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Mon, 20 Jul 1992 23:20:41 EDT Received: from 192.135.191.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 20 Jul 92 20:12 PDT Received: by nwnexus.wa.com id AA02379 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for reed.edu!eps); Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:15:17 -0700 Received: by sounds.wa.com (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA00843; Mon, 20 Jul 92 19:50:27 PDT Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) Date: 20 Jul 1992 19:50:27 -0700 (PDT) From: sounds!brianw@nwnexus.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: RE: FlashBank Question To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Message-id: <9207210250.AA00843@ sounds.wa.com > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT | >My EPS with 4X memory (and no FLASHBANK) shows 4091 free system | >blocks when booted. Have you ever tried loading flashbank sounds on | >a machine which already has the maximum RAM? | >I would assume that an EPS starting with 4000 free system blocks | >would show that some were used after loading a sound off the | >flashbank. | | we have a fully expanded EPS. the flashbank does NOT use main system | ram, for the billionth time. the FB manual makes a big point of this. I didn't mean to upset you - I don't recall the millionth time you went over this, so I still have a few questions :-) Do you have a Rack or a Keyboard version of the EPS 16+? Does the manual mention installing both the ME-16 PLUS Memory Expander *AND* the FLASHBANK? How did you squeeze both in? How many free system blocks does your *fully expanded* EPS show at boot, before loading anything? Do you have the FB-1 or FB-2 (I assume that you have the 1 Mword FB-2)? Perhaps the manual makes a big point of not using up system RAM to make up for the fact that you can't install both memory options. | here's a question for the gurus - did the EPS Classic ever have a pan | mod amount parameter? i could've sworn there used to be a way to | limit the amount of mod a random pan gave you, but when i tried to | find it no luck. on the EPS 16+ (yes we have both models in our | studio), the parameter is where you'd expect to find it (Edit/AMP). All that the EPS Classic has for pan adjustment are two special output assignments - random pan & keyboard - in addition to the 8 preset pan positions and the 8 solo outputs. You're right, there is no parameter to scale the amount of random panning or keyboard panning (bummer, I'm stuck with this until there is a third-party EPS Classic OS). According to the External Command Specification, Oct. 4, 1990, the following WaveSample Parameters are specific to the EPS 16+: * Volume Fadecurve * Output Bus * Pan Modulation Source * Pan Position (in addition to the existing output assignment) * Pan Modulation Amount * Boost Switch * LFO Modulation Amount | Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ) uunet!sco!jondr jondr@sco.com Brian Willoughby SoundSoftware Bellevue, WA From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Tue Jul 21 04:26:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Jul 92 04:25 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #2372 ) id <01GMMR69D7SW9QUWMY@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:25:25 EDT Date: 21 Jul 1992 07:25:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: EPS 13-Minus Panning To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GMMR69D7SY9QUWMY@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT First of all, please accept my apology for the previous repost. A slip of the finger changed "Forward/Edit" to just "Forward". > All that the EPS Classic has for pan adjustment are two special output > assignments - random pan & keyboard - in addition to the 8 preset pan > positions and the 8 solo outputs. You're right, there is no parameter to > scale the amount of random panning or keyboard panning (bummer, I'm stuck > with this until there is a third-party EPS Classic OS). You're not necessarily stuck. As a rule, you can trade off polyphony for features. In the case of panning, you can usually set up two identical layers, each panned to the opposite side. Set the amplitude level of one layer to 100, and the other to 0. Then you can apply a modulator (say, envelope 1, since we never use it anyway :-) in positive amounts to the 0 layer, and apply the same modulator (same settings, of course) in negative amounts to the 100 layer. From fscott.sco.COM!sco.sco.COM!jondr Tue Jul 21 09:53:53 1992 Return-Path: <@fscott.sco.COM:jondr@sco.sco.COM> Received: from 137.39.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:53 PDT Received: from sco.sco.COM by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA12646; Tue, 21 Jul 92 12:53:27 -0400 Received: from fscott.sco.COM by sco.sco.COM id aa22211; Tue, 21 Jul 92 9:53:37 PDT To: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Brian Willoughby's message of Mon, 20 Jul 92 19:50:27 PDT <9207210250.AA00843@ sounds.wa.com > Subject: FlashBank Question From: Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic Sender: jondr@sco.COM Reply-To: jondr@sco.COM Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 9:59:37 PDT Message-Id: <9207210959.aa03919@fscott.sco.COM> brian willoughby writes: >I didn't mean to upset you - I don't recall the millionth time you went over >this, so I still have a few questions :-) i'm sorry for getting a bit tetchy. it's been one of those millenia... >Do you have a Rack or a Keyboard version of the EPS 16+? Does the >manual mention installing both the ME-16 PLUS Memory Expander *AND* >the FLASHBANK? How did you squeeze both in? How many free system >blocks does your *fully expanded* EPS show at boot, before loading >anything? Do you have the FB-1 or FB-2 (I assume that you have the 1 >Mword FB-2)? We have the keyboard 16+. We have the ME-16 Plus expansion *and* the FB-2. I don't know how we squoze both in because the thing came fully installed and set up as part of a package deal - it's called the 16+ Turbo package. I believe the amount of free system blocks at startup is 4096. >Perhaps the manual makes a big point of not using up system RAM to >make up for the fact that you can't install both memory options. i really don't think that is the case. but what do i know... Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ) uunet!sco!jondr jondr@sco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This calls for a very special blend of psychology and extreme violence. From ecn.purdue.edu!del Tue Jul 21 18:16:25 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Jul 92 18:15 PDT Received: by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA15177; Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:15:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 20:15:00 -0500 From: del@ecn.purdue.edu (de l`abattoir) Message-Id: <9207220115.AA15177@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSREAD for some reason, EPSREAD gives me the error 'drive B not proper media' on all the DOS machines i test it with. even funnier is the fact that i specify drive A:. EPSWRITE works fine! i would love to upload some of my disks, but until i get past this problem... -david From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Jul 21 19:15:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:14 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA28103; Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:12:08 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26857; Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:10:26 WST Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:10:26 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207220210.AA26857@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPSREAD Subject: EPSREAD >for some reason, EPSREAD gives me the error 'drive B not proper media' >on all the DOS machines i test it with. even funnier is the fact >that i specify drive A:. EPSWRITE works fine! If your pc has an 800k (DS/DD) drive installed as A: then type... epsread file.gkh a: if your pc has an 800k (DS/DD) drive installed as B: then type... epsread file.gkh b: where file.gkh is the name you want epsread to give to your disk image. Is this what you are doing? Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Wed Jul 22 04:23:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 22 Jul 92 04:22 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA22908; Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:22:41 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA11209; Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:22:40 EST Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:22:40 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9207221122.AA11209@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Back on line Hi folks. Just took two weeks off, so I've just caught up with all the past stuff. A few bits of info: 1) Part 2 of my EPS 13 minus Loop Mod article has got gummed up in the works. Well, you see, I'm moving house, and I've got this conference next week blah blah blah... not to mention that I also want to play around and tidy a few rough bits in the article, so sometime in August, OK? 2) Guess who also lashed out some readies and got a Wavestation A/D. Nice box. Believe me, while 8 EPS instruments are nice to play with, being able to switch between 150 patches in a song is very nice indeed. Anyway, I'll try and get some nice Wavestation samples to you (both patches and raw samples). But for the moment you'll just have to drool. PS a big thank you to the person (forgot who- sorry!) who uploaded those VFX samples. Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From ecn.purdue.edu!del Wed Jul 22 10:47:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:47 PDT Received: by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA24595; Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:47:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:47:35 -0500 From: del@ecn.purdue.edu (de l`abattoir) Message-Id: <9207221747.AA24595@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS effects am i overlooking something obvious (as i was when trying to use EPSREAD - thanks scott)? why does the 16 allow saving of effects to an instrument, when only one effect may be loaded at a time? it doesnt gain anything as far as i can tell. unless it is for a non-sequencer-using salesman-shows-off-8-different-instruments-and-8-different-effects type of semi-misleading salespitch: "see, the drums can have reverb while [pause, change instrument] the geetar is distorted to fuck while [pause, etc ]". add to dream machine: parallel ESPs for mix-n-match effect types. -david From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Wed Jul 22 11:22:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.254.48.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 22 Jul 92 11:22 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by hpfcla.fc.hp.com with SMTP (15.11.1.6/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA27780; Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:21:33 -0600 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.7/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA09064; Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:22:47 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9207221822.AA09064@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: EPS effects To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:22:46 MDT In-Reply-To: <9207221747.AA24595@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu>; from "de l`abattoir" at Jul 22, 92 12:47 (noon) Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.33] > why does the 16 allow saving of effects to an instrument, > when only one effect may be loaded at a time? it doesnt gain > anything as far as i can tell. unless it is for a non-sequencer-using > salesman-shows-off-8-different-instruments-and-8-different-effects > type of semi-misleading salespitch: "see, the drums can have reverb while > [pause, change instrument] the geetar is distorted to fuck while [pause, etc ]". Yow! Because it would be a royal pain if you could only save effects with sequences. Contrary to what you might believe, there are a lot of people who don't use the sequencer hardly at all, but simply play the sounds one at a time. I use both my VFX and EPS live. With the EPS 16+ you can then load 8 different samples for 8 different songs, and have the effects set up how you want them for each sound. If you could only store the effects as a sequencer parameter, you'd have to reload from disk every single time you wanted to change the effects... YUCH! > add to dream machine: parallel ESPs for mix-n-match effect types. Agreed, this would be great. However... it definately isn't trivial, and it would add a LOT to the cost. Just look at how much the DP-4 goes for! > -david > =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From kurango.cit.gu.edu.au!richard Thu Jul 23 17:26:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.234.5.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 23 Jul 92 17:24 PDT Received: by kurango.cit.gu.edu.au id AA22695 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:26:50 +1000 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:26:50 +1000 From: A Grade Loser Message-Id: <199207240026.AA22695@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SmallTalk Music Software (long) Forwarding: Mail from 'michael lawley ' dated: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:28:00 +1000 One of my friends here has just pointed this out to me. Looks interesting on paper. Has anyone played with it? richard ---------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------- >Newsgroups: comp.object >Path: kurango!griffin!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.oz.au!network.ucsd.edu!usc!wupost!uunet!mcsun!sunic!sics.se!stp >From: stp@sics.se (Stephen Pope) >Subject: MODE Version 1.1 Available >Message-ID: <1992Jul22.170100.4016@sics.se> >Sender: news@sics.se >Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista >Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:01:00 GMT >Lines: 82 Musical Object Development Environment (MODE) Version 1.1 Now Available The Musical Object Development Environment (MODE) is a software system for music composition, realization, and performance; it is a full re- implementation of the HyperScore ToolKit (HSTK). MODE version 1.1 is a collection of software class libraries for building musical applications; it is written in Smalltalk-80 and is meant to be used with the ParcPlace Systems, Inc. Objectworks\Smalltalk Release 4.1 run-time environment. The default release will run on a Sun SPARCstation computer and supports MIDI and stereo high-quality audio I/O. The platform dependencies and lowest level of the operating system interface for MIDI and sound I/O are well documented, and the system runs suitably (for development) without the external interface on any OW\ST R4.1 platform. Versions of the MIDI and (hopefully) sound interfaces for Macintosh computers are expected soon. The MODE 1.1 release is available free via anonymous Internet ftp file transfer from the directory pub/st80 on the server ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu (i.e., Internet files anonymous@ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu:/pub/st80/*). This directory includes a README file, a text file list (ls -lR) of the full release, and several compressed tar archives (e.g., MODE_1.1.tar.Z) with full or small (no utilities or test data, less doc) versions of MODE. There is also a subdirectory named "mode" with a copy of the full release (in several subdirectories, the way it unpacks itself), which can be perused or from which individual files can be transferred. There are several elements of the MODE: - a music representation language (SmOKe events, functions, and sounds); - several schedulers and I/O drivers (real-time and file-based voices); - user interface components for musical applications (Navigator MVC); and - several built-in applications (editors and browsers for MODE objects). The end-user applications include several graphical signal and function editors, a cue-sheet-style sound file mixer, pitch-time and other graphical score editors in several flavors, and tools for digital signal processing. The MODE 1.1 release consists of about 900 Kbytes of source code, 90% of which is in Smalltalk-80 (with 10% in C). The C code consists of interfaces to several external utility programs that take over the lowest level of MIDI and (8- and 16-bit) sampled sound I/O. The various versions of these utilities communicate with Smalltalk via temp files, stdio pipes, sockets, or shared memory. There are extensive on-line examples, demonstration tools, and development aids built into the MODE. The documentation includes an introduction to reading Smalltalk-80 language, as well as the notes from a two-day Smalltalk-80 course and many screen dumps of MODE applications. Because the MODE is a development environment rather than a set of fixed applications, it is expected that the user will eventually become a proficient Smalltalk-80 programmer, and will extend and customize the existing applications and add new ones, possibly refining the kernel description language as well. Various versions and components of the MODE are documented in two chapters in the book "The Well-Tempered Object: Musical Applications of Object- Oriented Software Technology" (S. T. Pope, ed. MIT Press, 1991), in papers in the Proceedings of the 1987, 1989, 1991, and 1992 ICMC conferences, in an article in "Computer Music Journal" 16:3, Fall, 1992 (forthcoming), and in documents available individually in the Internet files anonymous@ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu:/pub/st80/doc/*. The source distribution is available in several forms in the compressed archive files with the name suffix .tar.Z. The full release unpacks itself into a directory hierarchy that requires approximately 4.6 Mbytes of disk, and includes SPARC binaries and C source for all necessary sound file, MIDI, and sound I/O utilities. There is a data directory with several sound, MIDI, envelope, and event list files. The small version of the release tar file does not include the SPARC-specific utilities, the sample data, or the larger PostScript documentation files. It is suitable for loading onto a single Macintosh floppy. Unpacking MODE onto DOS requires a step of editing the file names on a UNIX or Macintosh platform. Comments are invited to the EMail discussion group smallmusic@xcf.Berkeley.edu. For more information, contact: Stephen Travis Pope EMail: stp@CCRMA.Stanford.edu P. O. Box 60632 Palo Alto, CA, 94306 USA (currently at SICS in Stocholm) ----------- End Forwarded Message ----------- From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Mon Jul 27 10:03:58 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:02 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 27 Jul 92 13:02:42 EDT Date: 27 Jul 92 13:01:21 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Re: About an EPS disk you ha To: din@grad1.cis.upenn.edu CC: eps@reed.edu Return-receipt-to: mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu Subject: RE>About an EPS disk you have. Hi Clarence, You write; >Hi. I was just browsing through your extensive EPS PD disk library. >One disk I'm very interested in is EFF-6 Shakuhachi (Japanese flute). >Is this a sample off of a D-50 (or whatever synth) or something else? >If you recall the song Sadeness by Enigma, there was a Shakuhachi, but >my D-50 doesn't quite match it. The attack portion is good, but it >just doesn't "end" the same way. This Shahachi is lifted from the intro to "Sledgehammer" by Peter Gabriel. I don't know who sampled it. I got it from the local music shop. >ALso, do you have a good female/male choir sound for the EPS 16+? I'm >getting one soon (an EPS 16+). How is the choir disk which comes with >it? Most of the good voices are on the disks sold by Ensoniq. They just released a new set of Vocals (SL-3) desgned for the 16+ which have some pretty hot sounds, but theyre also pretty large. Some pretty good vocals are on the Mirage Conversion sets (SLT-4 and SLT-5). What I could post arePD-17 and PD-14 Male Voices High and Low. Currently available at nextweek.reed.edu PD-20 and PD-29: 550 voices and Vocal Pad 1. Maybe our other netters know of some good voices or some recomendations as well. I haven't checked out any 3rd party sources at all. Keep in touch, mike a. From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Mon Jul 27 10:22:42 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.254.48.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:22 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by hpfcla.fc.hp.com with SMTP (15.11.1.6/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA16474; Mon, 27 Jul 92 11:21:18 -0600 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.7/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA13005; Mon, 27 Jul 92 11:22:45 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9207271722.AA13005@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: About an EPS disk you ha To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 11:22:41 MDT In-Reply-To: ; from "Mike Allinger" at Jul 27, 92 1:01 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.33] > set of Vocals (SL-3) desgned for the 16+ which have some pretty hot sounds, > but theyre also pretty large. Some pretty good vocals are on the Mirage > Conversion sets (SLT-4 and SLT-5). What I could post arePD-17 and PD-14 Just a note, the SLT-4 and SLT-5 Mirage Conversion volumes have since been released into the public domain, as well as all of the rest of the volumes in this set. They were discontinued from Ensoniq, so they decided to just make them public. This was told to me by the local dealer (who has several volumes that he lets anybody copy.) I've also seen these samples distributed by Rubber Chicken, and Neanderthal Organizational Techniques. Both of these companies are pretty careful with what they call 'public domain'. That was pretty nice of Ensoniq, considering they used to sell these things for around $60 a volume (I believe). I've got the Mirage Conversion choir samples, I could try and post. The choir samples are OK. The "Doo" and "Tah" samples are really good, and a lot of fun to play with. > Male Voices High and Low. Currently available at nextweek.reed.edu PD-20 and > PD-29: 550 voices and Vocal Pad 1. > > Maybe our other netters know of some good voices or some recomendations as > well. > I haven't checked out any 3rd party sources at all. > > Keep in touch, > mike a. =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU!s057 Mon Jul 27 19:15:25 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:14 PDT Received: from sand.sics.bu.oz (via bunyip) by munnari.oz.au with SunIII (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA05913; Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:14:06 +1000 (from s057@sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU) Received: from sand by surf.sics.bu.oz.au (5.65b/Ultrix-32-V3.0) with SMTP id AA03277; Tue, 28 Jul 92 09:38:35 +1000 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA11224; Tue, 28 Jul 92 09:39:50 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9207272339.AA11224@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: Error Message To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 9:39:48 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] a IUI waa I was wondering whether anyone out there could help me with a wierd problem I've just statred to have with my EPS16+. I went to try and append a sequence to itself, and when I had done it I noticed that the drum track was missing on the appended part. I thought that this might be the result of turning down the volume at the end of the sequence, and so I erased all volume data on main volume and mixdown volume just to be safe. There was still no luck, so I put the sequencer into replace mode and copied the first four bars into bars 5 - 8. This worked fine when I demoed it, but then as soon as I hit yes to keep it the thing played a note and stuck. I put my arm down over about 5 octaves to shut it up, and then played the sequence. It now sounded like absolute trash. I rebooted the machine and left it for a while because I thought it might have overheated, and then came back and tried again. This time I pulled out all MIDI cables to it (it's the 16+ module) and tried again. Same result. I tried it again, and this time instead of playing it I changed to anothe sequence. I got "error 129 reboot?" Anyone got any ideas? A similar thing happened once before where the whole bass track moved out of time by about 40 clocks for no apparant reason after I quantised another track. I've never had any problems with the machine before, (had it about 8 months), and this has got me pretty worried. Steve Gregory Gold Coast Queensland Australia From ecn.purdue.edu!del Mon Jul 27 22:22:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 27 Jul 92 22:22 PDT Received: from localhost by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.32jrs) id AA26426; Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:22:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9207280522.AA26426@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Error Message In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 28 Jul 92 09:39:48 EST." <9207272339.AA11224@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:22:39 -0500 From: David A Whittemore Stephen Gregory admits: > Anyone got any ideas? A similar thing happened once before where the > whole bass track moved out of time by about 40 clocks for no apparant > reason after I quantised another track. > I've never had any problems with the machine before, (had it about 8 > months), and this has got me pretty worried. i have experienced this problem as well. in fact, over this last year, my 16+ seems to have uncovered most of the problems pointed out by eps-list members. to those who havent had problems: want to trade keyboards? here is one that hasnt been mentioned yet: when using the (WaveBoy) time dicer with MIC *or* LINE input and the sequencer running, horrible BUZZING occurs sporadically. has anyone else experienced this? easy to reproduce: load up with several instrument tracks, press play and wait. note: the buzzing sounds like digital overload (ala DAT overload), lasts less than a second. it doesnt matter if anything is even plugged into the input jack, so this rules out strange external signals getting in. if a sequence buzzes at all, it seems to always buzz in the same spots. checking this out, i found *nothing* suspicious about the events happening during the buzzing - they arent particularly loud events (such as BOOST perhaps causing an overload). everything points towards buggy software. really a pity, since i would love to be able to rely upon the external sound source using internal effects during performance. ideas? -david From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Jul 28 00:29:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:28 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14476; Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:25:57 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05803; Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:24:13 WST Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:24:13 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207280724.AA05803@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Errors and Waveboy >From del@ecn.purdue.edu Tue Jul 28 13:50:44 1992 >Subject: Re: Error Message > >when using the (WaveBoy) time dicer with MIC *or* LINE input >and the sequencer running, horrible BUZZING occurs >sporadically. has anyone else experienced this? >easy to reproduce: load up with several instrument tracks, >press play and wait. note: the buzzing sounds like digital overload >(ala DAT overload), lasts less than a second. it doesnt matter if >anything is even plugged into the input jack, so this rules out >strange external signals getting in. if a sequence buzzes at all, >it seems to always buzz in the same spots. checking this out, >i found *nothing* suspicious about the events happening during the buzzing - >they arent particularly loud events (such as BOOST perhaps causing an >overload). everything points towards buggy software. >really a pity, since i would love to be able to rely upon the external >sound source using internal effects during performance. > >ideas? > >-david David....perhaps you have just sprung yourself? :-) Real (original) waveboy owners would have received the following letter... "...OS 1.2 will fix a bug that causes the pitch-shifter to crackle when used with the sequencer...or both internal and external inputs simultaneously" :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Jul 28 00:36:46 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:35 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14688; Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:33:15 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05819; Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:31:35 WST Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:31:35 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207280731.AA05819@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Waveboy and Crackle... Well, here is the actual quote from the letter that Waveboy sent regarding the crackle bug.... FROM: WAVEBOY "Waveboy is preparing a disk of effects which processes live audio input to the EPS-16 Plus. It will be avaliable in July. Also look for the release of a new operating system from ensoniq called version 1.3. IT WILL FIX A BUG THAT CAUSED THE TIME-DICER TO CRACKLE WHEN USING THE AUDIO INPUT AND THE INTERNAL SOUNDS AT THE SAME TIME. 1.3 will also come with a promotional WAVEBOY FX which you do not have CHO REV CHO REV. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Jul 28 01:05:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Jul 92 01:04 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA15615; Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:02:16 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05911; Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:00:35 WST Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:00:35 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207280800.AA05911@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Waveboy (David vindicated) :-) >David....perhaps you have just sprung yourself? :-) Real (original) waveboy >owners would have received the following letter... > >"...OS 1.2 will fix a bug that causes the pitch-shifter to crackle when >used with the sequencer...or both internal and external inputs simultaneously" Sorry David, I have just had 3 "real" waveboy owners contact me an let me know that they did not receive the "letter" either. Well I got the letter when Bill Mauchly sent me a note apologising for using some company name other than "WAVEBOY" on the mastercard purchase slip...and was sorry for any confusion it caused...the stuff about the bugs and OS 1.3 was in a PS bit. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Tue Jul 28 10:00:56 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 28 Jul 92 10:00 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 28 Jul 92 13:00:28 EDT Date: 28 Jul 92 12:58:23 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: SLT series = public domain To: kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com, eps@reed.edu Subject: SLT series = public domain ? >> set of Vocals (SL-3) desgned for the 16+ which have some pretty hot sounds, >> but theyre also pretty large. Some pretty good vocals are on the Mirage >> Conversion sets (SLT-4 and SLT-5). What I could post arePD-17 and PD-14 >Just a note, the SLT-4 and SLT-5 Mirage Conversion volumes have since >been released into the public domain, as well as all of the rest of >the volumes in this set. They were discontinued from Ensoniq, so they >decided to just make them public. This was told to me by the local >dealer (who has several volumes that he lets anybody copy.) I've also >seen these samples distributed by Rubber Chicken, and Neanderthal >Organizational Techniques. Both of these companies are pretty careful >with what they call 'public domain'. That was pretty nice of Ensoniq, >considering they used to sell these things for around $60 a volume (I >believe). This is fantastic news. Has anyone else heard this ? If it's true then 90% of the samples I own are public domain and can be submitted for nextweek.reed.edu. >I've got the Mirage Conversion choir samples, I could try and post. >The choir samples are OK. The "Doo" and "Tah" samples are really good, >and a lot of fun to play with. I use them for some "Beach Boys" effects and they work nicely. Thanks for the news Kelly I'll likely be posting another list of what I've got soon. Have fun, mike a. From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Wed Jul 29 05:41:23 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 29 Jul 92 05:40 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Jul 92 08:40:03 EDT Date: 29 Jul 92 08:39:43 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: esd1004.gkh/power drums To: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU, eps@reed.edu Subject: esd1004.gkh/power drums Hey gang, There's a new file on nextweek. ESD1004.GKH.Z contains "Power Drums" a disk that was released by Ensoniq with the EPS classic "in the box". I understand it's in the public domain now so go get it! Enjoy, mike a. From rigel.cs.pdx.edu!tauren Wed Jul 29 14:56:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.252.20.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:56 PDT Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by pdxgate.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-gateway-evision: 1.27 id AA12070; Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:56:00 PDT Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by rigel.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-client-evision: 1.17 id AA25513; Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:55:55 PDT Message-Id: <9207292155.AA25513@rigel.cs.pdx.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Errors and Waveboy In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:24:13 +0700. <9207280724.AA05803@psy.uwa.edu.au> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:55:55 PDT From: tauren@rigel.cs.pdx.edu > >David....perhaps you have just sprung yourself? :-) Real (original) waveboy >owners would have received the following letter... > >"...OS 1.2 will fix a bug that causes the pitch-shifter to crackle when >used with the sequencer...or both internal and external inputs simultaneously" > >:-) > >Regards Scott. I don't think all REAL waveboy owners received this. I own waveboy and did not. Tauren >_ >Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). > > _--_|\ N >Department of Psychology / \ W + E >University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S >Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v > > *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >- From descartes.uwaterloo.ca!undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjfennem Thu Jul 30 09:51:06 1992 Return-Path: <@descartes.uwaterloo.ca:rjfennem@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Received: from 129.97.140.253 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:50 PDT Received: from lambert.uwaterloo.ca by descartes.uwaterloo.ca id <245850>; Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:50:22 -0400 Subject: Forwarded Question ... From: "Ryan J. Fennema" To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:50:18 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Message-Id: <92Jul30.125022edt.245850@descartes.uwaterloo.ca> Hello there EPS folk! I saw this plea for help in Rec.music.synth and thought someone here might be able to assist this person in their quest. I would help, but I'm not qualified yet :) Here is the post .... Ryan. rjfennem@descartes.uwaterloo.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mpw@planet.bt.co.uk (Mike Wood) Newsgroups: rec.music.synth Subject: Sample Disk Format ( S1000 S900 etc ) Message-ID: <1992Jul27.081342.19180@planet.bt.co.uk> Date: 27 Jul 92 08:13:42 GMT Sender: news@planet.bt.co.uk Reply-To: mpw@planet.bt.co.uk Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK. Lines: 14 I am writing a sampler editor for the ST that I hope to be able to read S1000, S900, and ensoniq disks ( and any others that I can find info on ). My K2000 will read S1000 disks but not S900. Does this mean that it is possible , knowing the format to use the atari drive to read them. If they are high density I shall read them on the K2000 and midi dump them to the ST. But are the S900 and ensoniq's disks HD or DD ? Any info what the format is or how I should go about creating dumps on disk would be much appreciated. Thanks, Mike. From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Thu Jul 30 18:12:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:11 PDT Received: from [130.95.176.1] by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA18988; Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:29:44 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08865; Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:26:59 WST Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:26:59 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207300626.AA08865@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Speculation time... One thing I have been spending a lot of time doing lately is thinking about when Ensoniq will release their new sampler... As far as I see it wwe can look forward to a new machine by late next year (in time for christmass 1993). I also have a creepy feeling that we may see a mother-board update for the EPS 16 Plus sometime soon too...end of this year? I suspect 32 voices and perhaps 8Meg ram that I was rumouring about earlier. Talking to an Ensoniq type person it appears that the 32 voices on the 16 Plus are no trivial thing as the higher clock speeds required muck up the sampling input stages with timing problems...all a little vague and poorly thought really. comments guys? scotttt.t.t.t.t.t.tttttttt EEEERRRRRROOOORRRRR-111111114444444444 RRRRREEEEEBBBBBOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT???????? From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Thu Jul 30 21:10:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:10 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA14292; Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:09:52 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10368; Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:17:33 WST Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:17:33 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207310317.AA10368@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Click Track... I'm back, this time wondering about the "Click" for the click track... Q: Does the click track use up one of our voices or is it fed into the audio from somewhere else? Scott. \~r .sog sog? bum......... fiddle fiddle "click!" _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Thu Jul 30 21:41:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:41 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA02125; Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:41:02 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA04133; Fri, 31 Jul 92 14:40:58 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9207310440.AA04133@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> Subject: Scott Fisher's speculations.... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 14:40:56 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Scott's guesses for timing are probably about right, I would say late '93, although who knows, it may be out earlier. The EPS16 was released mid year, no? Scott has picked on obvious things like more voices and more RAM (and let's petition Ensoniq NOW to use standard SIMMS. No SIMMS, no buy). How about stereo? The competition has it, why not stay in front in this regard too? One thing which I think will have to change is the user interface (do I hear shouts of "heresy"). Now, I quite like the interface as it is now, but lets face it no product is perfect and some refinement would not be before time. A big display would be nice (a la Korg or Yamaha) but know ye all that a Big Display Does Not A User Interface Make. One only has to (try in vain to) use a Roland W30 to see this. Change the interface leads to one inevitable consequence though: no motherboard update. Let's face it, my 13 minus can't be upgraded, so why should you be able to :-) No guys, if you want to upgrade, why not do it another way... just shove another motherboard in the same case and swap between two virtual EPSes. Why have 32 oscillators when you can have 40 :-) So, I think the old layout should go. What else is there? A built in DP/4 (of course), a vastly redone operating system to make SCSI hard disk more straightforward (see also: user interface). And, if we're going to have better hard disk access systems, why not go the whole hog and fit a digital recording option? A HD recording system in an EPS? Why not? (multiple :-)) I also believe Ensoniq should have a more "transparent" OS. We've seen people do their own OS for the Mirage, and people have commented on how it would be nice to have the same for the EPS. Why not blow the system right open and make it EASY for people to do software development on a Mac or PC platform for the EPS. As well as publishing the MIDI spec, why not the EPS equivalent of "BIOS calls" to make software development open to all? Just think: algorithmic synthesis for all. I think it would be magic. Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Thu Jul 30 23:40:12 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 30 Jul 92 23:39 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA13153; Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:26:39 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10396; Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:24:27 WST Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:24:27 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207310324.AA10396@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: OH NOoooooo!!!! For those of you with TH subscriptions something has changed in the TH... notice anything? Look carefully now....no not the logo font....look closer, turn it over and look at the back.....now what's wrong? Well the PS systems add has been replaced by a Frontera add. Trivial? Well I'll have to look through my back issues but I am fairly sure PS has been advertizing their memory expansion products on the back of TH for 2-3 years. (I'm talking here about the July #85 TH BTW). Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU!s057 Fri Jul 31 05:40:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 05:38 PDT Received: from sand.sics.bu.oz (via bunyip) by munnari.oz.au with SunIII (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA26668; Fri, 31 Jul 1992 22:38:39 +1000 (from s057@sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU) Received: from sand by surf.sics.bu.oz.au (5.65b/Ultrix-32-V3.0) with SMTP id AA16943; Fri, 31 Jul 92 22:33:43 +1000 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA14450; Fri, 31 Jul 92 22:35:03 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9207311235.AA14450@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: speculations again ... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 22:35:01 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Here's an idea. How about we all compile a list of what we would like (a realistic one of course), and send it to Ensoniq. As I was saying to Scott today, I don't think there can be many companies that would not take notice of suggestions from a group of 100+ owners of a piece of their equipement. I mean it's worth a try isn't it, just think - all those ideas we're throwin around just might turn into reality... Steve Gregory Bond University Gold Coast Australia SELECT INSTRUMENT TO DELETE is a tradmark of Ensoniq Corp From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Fri Jul 31 06:08:08 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 06:05 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 31 Jul 92 09:05:43 EDT Date: 31 Jul 92 09:05:03 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Re: Click Track... To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au, eps@reed.edu Subject: RE>Click Track... >I'm back, this time wondering about the "Click" for the click track... >Q: Does the click track use up one of our voices or is it fed into the >audio from somewhere else? >Scott. >\~r .sog >sog? >bum......... >fiddle fiddle >"click!" Hey good question. Not documented anywhere to my knowlege. My guess would be that it does take up one of the 20 voices. After you have drums or some other rhythm track laid down you can "86" the click and not have to worry about loosing a voice. Don't worry, be snappy mike a. From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Fri Jul 31 06:55:12 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 06:53 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 31 Jul 92 09:53:08 EDT Date: 31 Jul 92 09:53:28 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Ensoniq SLT samples are NOT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Ensoniq SLT samples are NOT PD Hey gang, I just spoke with Bert at Ensoniq customer service and he said that the SLT sample sets are still available through them and are still under copyright. Same goes for the "in the box" disks that came with the EPS classic. So I'll be pulling ESD1004.gkh.z out of nextweek.reed.edu. Sorry for the confusion. mike a. From noc.vitalink.com!ejm Fri Jul 31 07:45:12 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.240.17.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 07:42 PDT Received: from yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM by mescal.NOC.Vitalink.COM with SMTP id AA15968 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:33:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM (5.65+V1.2/V1.3) id AA01664; Fri, 31 Jul 92 07:39:59 -0700 Message-Id: <9207311439.AA01664@yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM> To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Click Track... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:17:33 +0700." <9207310317.AA10368@psy.uwa.edu.au> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 07:39:58 -0700 From: ejm@noc.vitalink.com >Q: Does the click track use up one of our voices or is it fed into the >audio from somewhere else? Sounds like EPS trivia time: Q: what wavesample/instrument comes built-in to the EPS OS? ... Erik From vela.acs.oakland.edu!jeff Fri Jul 31 08:16:07 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.210.10.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 08:14 PDT Received: by vela.acs.oakland.edu id AA27368 (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:13:59 -0400 From: Jeff Marraccini Message-Id: <199207311513.AA27368@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Subject: Suggestions for EPS-16+ sibling To: eps@reed.edu Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:13:58 EDT Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, MI U.S.A. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] (Please remember to write to the Transoniq Hacker with your suggestions, too!) Personally, I'd rather see more memory and optional internal (with a rugged mounting) hard disk more than polyphony, but I guess it depends on your playing style and how you actually use the EPS. In my case, the EPS is not my sole instrument, but some of the samples that I'd like to work with are getting hard to shoe-horn in with everything else :-) A built-in fan would be nice as well, although it would have to be whisper-quiet and possibly variable-speed. Also, better documentation for the SYSEX and SCSI implementation, and instructions on how to generate your own effects (ala Waveboy) as others have mentioned, would be fantastic. And, last, but not least (and this might be tricky unless we really do have better RAM expansion): allow MS-DOS formatted disks and support for Sample Dump Standard samples! If we really do get 8MB or so of ram, supporting SDS would be fantastic. Hello, Akai S1xxx samples... Hello, loading 1MB operating system off of the hard disk :-( Jeff -- Jeff Marraccini jeff@vela.acs.oakland.edu <- Work Computing Resource Administrator jeff@nucleus.mi.org <- Home Oakland University +1 313 370-4542 Rochester, MI USA 48309-4401 "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Fri Jul 31 09:27:35 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 09:26 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 31 Jul 92 12:25:23 EDT Date: 31 Jul 92 12:04:05 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: Re: Re- Click Track... To: ejm@noc.vitalink.com, scott@psy.uwa.edu.au, eps@reed.edu Subject: RE>Re: Click Track... >>Q: Does the click track use up one of our voices or is it fed into the >>audio from somewhere else? >Sounds like EPS trivia time: >Q: what wavesample/instrument comes built-in to the EPS OS? >... Erik Square wave? mike a. From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Fri Jul 31 12:42:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.254.48.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 12:41 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by hpfcla.fc.hp.com with SMTP (15.11.1.6/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA16455; Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:40:35 -0600 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA09700; Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:42:05 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9207311942.AA09700@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: Ensoniq SLT samples are NOT To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:42:05 MDT In-Reply-To: ; from "Mike Allinger" at Jul 31, 92 9:53 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] > > Subject: Ensoniq SLT samples are NOT PD > Hey gang, > I just spoke with Bert at Ensoniq customer service and he said > that > the SLT sample sets are still available through them and are still under > copyright. > Same goes for the "in the box" disks that came with the EPS classic. So I'll be > pulling > ESD1004.gkh.z out of nextweek.reed.edu. Sorry for the confusion. > > mike a. > > Oops, I just checked over my library listings, and it looks like I was mistaken. The libraries that were released are the ESD libraries (Essential Sound Disks... or something like that.) These were libraries for the original EPS, *not* the EPS-16+. The Mirage Conversion sets that we were discussing earlier are part of this series. According to my listing, the 'DOO' sample, for instance, is ESD disk #32. I am pretty sure that this entire series is now public domain. The series is about 10 libraries of I think 10 disks each. The local Ensoniq dealer told me this, and I've seen these samples listed in catalogs by both Rubber Chicken and Neanderthal Organizational Techniques (NOT). NOT even had their catalog cross-referenced to which ESD disk the sample was from. Sorry about the confusion, I assume the SLT series is the brand new series aimed at the EPS-16+, in which case I'm sure they are not public domain. The ESD series is for the original EPS, but still has some great sounding samples. All of the patch selects are fully functional, and there are demo sequences on most of the disks. =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From gear.sublink.org!forum!work Fri Jul 31 21:03:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.6.21.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 31 Jul 92 21:02 PDT Received: from modus.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA20216; Fri, 31 Jul 92 23:43:09 EDT Received: by modus.sublink.ORG (/\==/\ Smail3.1.20.1 #20.7) id ; Sat, 1 Aug 92 03:11 MET Received: by otello.sublink.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.17.5 #17.3 / deliver 2.0.11) id ; Sat, 1 Aug 92 02:44 GMT Received: by gear.sublink.ORG (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1 / Deliver 2.0.12) id ; Sat, 1 Aug 92 00:52 MEST Subject: Please kill me off the mailing list To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:16:40 met From: Andrea Gozzi X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL6] Message-Id: <9207231016.aa00551@forum.sublink.org> Bye Bye -- /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Andrea Gozzi - Via Campagnola 21/A - 42015 Correggio (RE) ITALY / / INTERNET: work@forum.sublink.org UUCP: ..rutgers!sublink!forum / / Fax ++39522692916 Ints:RayTracing-Electronic Music-Ensoniq addicted/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From mentor.cc.purdue.edu!greenejl Sat Aug 1 14:54:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.210.10.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 1 Aug 92 14:53 PDT Received: by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA00921; Sat, 1 Aug 92 16:53:20 -0500 From: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Message-Id: <9208012153.AA00921@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Bye for now! To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS Mailing List) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 92 16:53:19 EST hi! I'm graduating now and won't be able to stay in this group until I get an internet connection again. The people I have arranged to send me sounds and information should please contact me starting this Friday at: 1311 Wychwood road Charleston, WV 25314 Thank you all!, -Jon Greene PS: Thanks for all the help and sounds!