From ecn.purdue.edu!del Sun Jul 5 16:11:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.46.129.85 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 5 Jul 92 16:11 PDT Received: by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.31jrs) id AA24192; Sun, 5 Jul 92 18:10:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 92 18:10:59 -0500 From: del@ecn.purdue.edu (de l`abattoir) Message-Id: <9207052310.AA24192@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: is the list alive? i thought that i had been re-installed to the eps-list after i came back from vacation. was i? nothing from the list in weeks! please add: del@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu -david From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Mon Jul 6 03:13:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 6 Jul 92 03:13 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA09067; Mon, 6 Jul 1992 20:13:33 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA27885; Mon, 6 Jul 1992 18:13:32 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa17703; 6 Jul 92 18:02 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <0bqz888@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 06 Jul 92 17:52 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: Re: Newest Disk Thing for Atari:) To: iwoehr@isis.cs.du.edu Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au Cc: eps@reed.edu X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1992 11:23:26 MET In <9207042324.AA10615@nyx.cs.du.edu>, you write: > Does that newest Disk utility support .GKH files? > Thanks! Please reply A.S.A.P.! If your talking about EPS Disk Wizard 2.1 for the Atari ST then the answer is YES! HOWEVER: It will only extract .GKH format, it will not write it. So if you want to use it to extract samples from altosax (or whatever our new site name is!) you can do it successfully. I have done it heaps of time and never had a bung one yet! If you want any more info just write to me as I wrote the program and I dont think there is much I couldnt tell you! See ya, -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Mon Jul 6 03:13:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 6 Jul 92 03:13 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA09073; Mon, 6 Jul 1992 20:13:37 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA27891; Mon, 6 Jul 1992 18:13:33 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa17713; 6 Jul 92 18:02 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <0bqz88c@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 06 Jul 92 17:53 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: Re: Ok another question To: iwoehr@isis.cs.du.edu Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au Cc: eps@reed.edu X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1992 11:27:28 MET RRIn <9207042332.AA10676@nyx.cs.du.edu>, you write: > > Ok I just got the newest version of diskwrite - now the qeustion > is - what is EPS2.ARC doing in there. It appears to be an exact duplicate > of every otherprogram - why do you have it archived in there? > > Thanks! > Hmmmmm, I wonder if someone could check it out for me as I dont have ftp access. EPS Disk Wizard 2.0 looks identical to EPS Disk Wizard 2.1 but it has bug fixes in it and 2.0 wont extract .GKH but 2.1 will. Check the documentation for the details on the difference between the two of them. If 2.0 is on our site then it should be removed and replace with 2.1 Thanks in advance! -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From amnese.eng.uab.edu!sundsted Mon Jul 6 12:43:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 138.26.1.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 6 Jul 92 12:43 PDT Received: from amnese.eng.uab.edu by Heath.DPO.UAB.EDU (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA17585; Mon, 6 Jul 92 14:33:46 CDT Received: by amnese.eng.uab.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02830; Mon, 6 Jul 92 14:40:42 CDT Date: Mon, 6 Jul 92 14:40:42 CDT From: sundsted@amnese.eng.uab.edu (Todd Sundsted) Message-Id: <9207061940.AA02830@amnese.eng.uab.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: FTP sources for EPS stuff Are there any available FTP sources for EPS samples, etc... I`m new to this mailing list. If this is a FAQ... sorry. Todd From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Jul 6 18:42:57 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 6 Jul 92 18:42 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA03877; Tue, 7 Jul 1992 11:42:01 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04014; Tue, 7 Jul 92 09:40:28 WST Date: Tue, 7 Jul 92 09:40:28 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207070140.AA04014@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: The saga of DISK-W.ARC >>RRIn <9207042332.AA10676@nyx.cs.du.edu>, you write: >> >> Ok I just got the newest version of diskwrite - now the qeustion >> is - what is EPS2.ARC doing in there. It appears to be an exact duplicate >> of every otherprogram - why do you have it archived in there? >> >> Thanks! >> >Hmmmmm, I wonder if someone could check it out for me as I dont have ftp >access. EPS Disk Wizard 2.0 looks identical to EPS Disk Wizard 2.1 but it >has bug fixes in it and 2.0 wont extract .GKH but 2.1 will. I logg'd into nextweek.reed.edu (that's where altosax stuff has been shifted for all those of you who have forgotten) well, first I was confused as I was not sure diskwrite was as here is the listing of /pub/utils... total 749 -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 22022 Apr 28 16:07 PKUNZIP.EXE -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 30969 Apr 28 16:07 PKZIP.EXE.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 167293 Mar 31 18:23 SoundHack.sit.hqx -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 10600 May 28 06:12 disk-listing-util.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 who 277944 Jun 15 02:20 disk-w.arc -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 12634 Apr 28 16:06 epsread.exe.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 12344 Apr 28 16:06 epswrite.exe.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 16066 Apr 1 00:57 unarj.exe.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 1195 Mar 28 17:16 uudecode.c.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 niski 725 Mar 28 17:16 uuencode.c.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 who 174679 May 25 18:50 wnjmr21.zip I took a punt and downloaded disk-w.arc, which stands for disk-wizard, BTW, and un-arc'd it... Yes there was a copy of EPS2.ARC in there, and no it should not have been there.It was my fault, when I arc'd the new version 2.1 some weeks ago I did the following... ARC A EPS2.ARC *.* This archived all the files for disk-wizard into a arc file EPS2.ARC, I then changed my mind as to what the file should be called so I went... ARC A DISK-W.ARC *.* Needless to say I forgot to delete EPS2.ARC first, woops. To fix this, I have uploaded a new disk-w.arc to the incoming directory that has this problem fixed. Also the files within EPS2.ARC are version 2.1 and are simply a duplication of what is in the main ARC file (disk-w.arc) so there is no problem with old versions avaliable at the site. If you unarc'd DISK-W.ARC and have EPS2.ARC just delete it. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Mon Jul 6 18:49:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 6 Jul 92 18:49 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA04128; Tue, 7 Jul 1992 11:49:20 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04047; Tue, 7 Jul 92 09:47:47 WST Date: Tue, 7 Jul 92 09:47:47 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207070147.AA04047@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: The saga of DISK-W con't >First I went > >ARC A EPS2.ARC *.* > >Then I changed my mind as to what the archive file should be called so I did >thefollowing... > >ARC A EPS2.ARC *.* Before you all flame me :-) Yes I know it would have been simpler to go... rename EPS2.ARC DISK-W.ARC But we all make these kind of mistakes. DELETE SONG + ALL SEQUENCES? Eh? Oh yeah sure, ENTER [YES], what! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I meant NOOOOOOOO!!!! :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From horde Mon Jul 6 19:11:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 6 Jul 92 19:11 PDT Message-Id: To: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: The saga of DISK-W.ARC In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 07 Jul 92 09:40:28 +0700. <9207070140.AA04014@psy.uwa.edu.au> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 92 19:11:36 -0700 From: "Mr. Heiji Horde" In message <9207070140.AA04014@psy.uwa.edu.au> you write: >To fix this, I have uploaded a new disk-w.arc to the incoming directory >that has this problem fixed. Also the files within EPS2.ARC are version 2.1 >and are simply a duplication of what is in the main ARC file (disk-w.arc) so >there is no problem with old versions avaliable at the site. nextweek.reed.edu: /pub/incoming/disk-w.arc has been moved to /pub/utils/disk-w.arc Just so that people on the list know, I'm usually on the system enough so that when someone sends mail about something they've uploaded and where it should go, it can be processed within a few minutes. And never longer than 24 hours. -Heiji horde@reed.edu From fscott.sco.COM!sco.sco.COM!jondr Mon Jul 6 22:46:30 1992 Return-Path: <@fscott.sco.COM:jondr@sco.sco.COM> Received: from 137.39.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 6 Jul 92 22:45 PDT Received: from sco.sco.COM (via [132.147.128.32]) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA18292; Mon, 6 Jul 92 18:29:12 -0400 Received: from fscott.sco.COM by sco.sco.COM id aa18849; Mon, 6 Jul 92 15:17:20 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: copying samples From: Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic Sender: jondr@sco.COM Reply-To: jondr@sco.COM Date: Mon, 6 Jul 92 15:18:22 PDT Message-Id: <9207061518.aa04637@fscott.sco.COM> so, i downloaded steve quartly's eps disk wizard and was all set to transfer some EDE and EFE's. unfortunately, the only files on nextweek are GKHs! smartly realizing that we have IBM clones at work, i downloaded epsread and epswrite. an uncompressed GKH is > 800K so the only thing to do was ftp the file over to a machine with a 3.5" drive and use a 1.2 meg floppy to transfer the file to our DOS machines (no network on them). so, after much travail, i got epswrite and a GKH file on one of the dos boxes hard disk. i typed epswrite file.gkh a: and it said "bad address mark. disk may not be eps formatted." what does this mean? also, how do people with atari STs deal with disk images? they're too big to fit on one ST floppy. this process seems ridiculously cumbersome right now. am i doing something wrong? i would be willing to share some samples if there were less steps involved. Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ) uunet!sco!jondr jondr@sco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suck on this, planet of noise bimbo! From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Jul 7 22:40:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 7 Jul 92 22:39 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA15658; Wed, 8 Jul 1992 15:38:40 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06069; Wed, 8 Jul 92 13:36:58 WST Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 13:36:58 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207080536.AA06069@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Test Sory Test, Something seems to not be working. From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Tue Jul 7 23:39:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 7 Jul 92 23:39 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA18094; Wed, 8 Jul 1992 16:39:30 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06287; Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:38:00 WST Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:38:00 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207080638.AA06287@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Your questions answered...if you are lucky :-) Ok Had a great time last night, there were about 25-30 people at the seminar that started at 7.00pm and went to 9.30pm (I'll tell you more about that leter). After that, when everyone had cleared (by 10.30, I spent 1.5 hours with the Ensoniq type personi and) I sifted through the questions with him. I also have now had a serious play with Beta-OS 1.17 too, more about that leter as well :-) Disclaimer/Warning...the following answers are HEARSAY AND SPECULATION and in NO WAY represent the policies/views of Ensoniq ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When/if is Copy/backup/restore going to be avaliable for the original EPS? A: Good question! :-) As Ensoniq are only going to make 1 more release of an OS for the "Classic" they are trying to get it "just right" as this is the last chance. Yes Copy/Backup/restore will be included as well as some "other" goodies??? As to when.... :-( No idea...but...sort of soon. ("Soon" in Ensoniq speak means Soon-as-we-get-a-round-to-it) Staff are working frantically on) OS 1.2 for the 16+. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is there going to be a Defrag utility for the hard-disk? A: An EPS has been seen with the words "DEFRAGMENT DISK?" flashing in it's display!!! When will "we" see this in "our" display..."soon" :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was just reading that Ensoniq was also the distributor for Notator (in the U.S. ) If you think the person your talking to may know, could you ask if there is going to be a port to the Macintosh? I've heard rumours that there will be. (They may not know though. I don't know if it means that Electric Factory are the Australian distributors.) A: Yes there is/will be a port to the Mac, the program is a major re-write, changes it's name and get's much much better. I had a play with the Beta-Release last night. Call John McCubbery at the Electric Factory for more details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is more of a suggestion than a question. Ask him about adding a disk compressor to the next OS version on the Classic and the 16. The Compressor would save the samples in a compressed format to save space. The OS should recognize a compressed instrument and uncompress it during loading. This A: :-) Don't hold your breath...too much hassle, not enough OS room and won't be an issue soon (see below). will take longer but it should also be optional. I would also like to see the OS support High Density disk drives (1.44 Megs). A: Not in the EPS16 Plus, however the EPS-line replacement will have at least 1.44 meg Floppy DD. At R&D Ensoniq there are a lot of 20meg floptical drives floating around, the sort that can read 800, 1.44meg and 20meg floppies. There is a possibility that these could turn up in the next incarnation. R&D apparently have an EPS16Plus with a 20meg floptical in it for "research" purposes :-) The thing that replaces the EPS16 Plus will be a complete revision of hardware/software, it will load EPS, EPS16 Plus sounds/sequences may lose the "load mirage sound" capability tho. It will have "at least" a 1.44 meg drive, Ram expansion to ... heaps more than now :-) highly likely to have stereo sampling, more voices. Internal HD capability. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EPS-32 reality? A. Highly unlikely, too much major software/hardware revision needed due to the sped-up clock speed required. As we are so close to a completely new sampler (year?), it's probably not worth the effort. How much normal (non-flash) RAM can we put in? SCSI standard? A. 2meg Room for hard drive in the rack-mount unit? A. ??? Is there or do you want to have room made? Solution, use an external. Upgrade path from EPS-16+R owners? A. ??? What do you mean. EPS-16 with > 2MB standard RAM? Will this ever be possible? A. Highly Unlikely. What is the technical reason for the 2MB limit? Address space on the DMA chips? A. Poor planning :-) OS/Hardware miss-management :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess I've got another question (wish) for the Ensoniq rep Scott's going to see. When are they going to write some disk utilities? For example, stuff like a defragger for the hard drive users, maybe some sort of move/copy commands, in general stuff that will make dealing with a hard drive a bit easier. A. On their way...soon :-) We may even see 3rd party OS in the vein of Waveboy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards Scott...don't forget what I said in the "disclaimer" :-) _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 00:56:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 00:56 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA19943; Wed, 8 Jul 1992 17:56:25 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06656; Wed, 8 Jul 92 15:54:51 WST Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 15:54:51 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207080754.AA06656@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: review SL-12 (1-8 too) For those of you who don't make it into a Ensoniq dealership very often or whose dealers don't stock the Ensoniq library I thought I'd review the list of "New" sounds that Ensoniq have released for the EPS 16 Plus, these follow the 15 disks that come with the machine. The LATEST ADDITION is SL-12 CELLOS The review contains the following... SL-1 HI-FI Kits. SL-2 Basses, Electric and Synth (Moog). SL-3 Vocals, Rock and Choir. SL-4 Pianos 1. SL-5 Pianos 2. SL-6 Brass (Trumpet and Trombone). SL-7 Dance, Drum Loops (and techno drum kits and Bass). SL-8 Stringed Quartet. SL-12 Cellos SL-1 "Hi-Fi Kits" (5 disks of 44.6 kHz sampled drum sounds, one disk (ED-20) has just crash, hi-hat and cymbal samples on it. This makes for some long (unlooped) decays on the crash. You will need 4X EPS, 2X 16 Plus memory to load up a full kit + these brass clangy bits. There are 3 disks of Main Kits of around 1500 blocks and one disk with 3 "small" kits around 450 blocks each and the above mentioned brass-clangy things disk. I won't go into too much detail because the sound/style of all the kits is in the vein of the "rock-drums" kit that comes with the EPS16 Plus, really. If you like "rock-drums" then you will like these. Clean, clear, punchy and dynamic samples. If you are after more 808/electronic sounds this set is not for you. You may want to try SL-7 for that (see below). SL-2 "Basses, electric and Synth" (5 disks, 3 are electric basses i.e fender etc, 1100+ block monsters that take up a disk each, there is a short version of each on the disk too 200-400 blocks. Personally I can't justify using 1300 blocks "just" on a electric bass sound, even more so when the "short" versions sound just as good in a mix, the short versions are simply looped closer to the attack. If you want to do solo electric bass licks then these are the sounds for you... two "straight" electric basses and 1 "slap" bass. The other two disks are what realy excited me about this library, Moog Basses. Today in the pop/dance music sceen moog basses are "must-have" sounds. There are 10 moog basses similar in quality to the moog bass on the disks that come with the EPS 16 Plus (in other words great!). They range from 60 to 817 blocks while most are around 120-300 blocks. For me these make the library worth it for the two disks of moog sounds alone. SL-3 "Vocals, Rock" (5 disks, EPS needs 4X expander 16+ needs 2X, to load one of the sounds) Huge Ahhhs: Huge is right 3339 Blocks so I think it deserves a "huge" slice of the SL-3 review. 3000+ blocks are usually reserved for famous LA studio Piano samples. Well this sound has about 8 multisamples in it and they are sampled at 48 kHz (Onto a "real" digital studio recorder). Well it sounds like males were used for the source and is quite smooth as it's real hard to hear any loops even at the extreem high register (the sound is spread over 3 disks BTW the third has 168 or so block on it) it reminded me of a Fairlight Ahhhhhhhh sound I once heard. In the lower registers it is Deep bright and full, in the higher registers clean, airy and smooth. Given the size of this sound I was a little dissapointed with it when I first loaded it up and played a few random notes. I was expecting something "amazing" for this number of blocks. However when I played the demo I really started to appreceate the quality of the samples used and the effectivesess of the sound. The patch selects give you octaved, dark (filtered), chorused versions of the original. Not much change from 4080 blocks tho, you are left with 741. Can/will you use it? Got a 16 track and/or 16X memory expansion? Roc Vox 1: 1525 Block UUH and AAH with an Aaaaaaahhh-ish quality, Roc Vox 2: 1571 Block AAY and OOH with an Aaaaaaahhh-ish quality, The demo uses both Roc VOX 1 & 2, given there are 8 patches between them and 4 vowel sounds there is a lot of scope for vocal variation. The demo sounds quite good. Me personally playing around with the sounds, did not think they were as impressive as the Mirage Ahhhh, Tahhh Doooo sounds. Well the quality was better, the sound was "bigger" but, well I suppose I beginning to get too fussy. Finaly there is Sirens (Greek mythology type not police) Monks and Choir-Vox. All these are actually a private school choir from PA somewhere close to Ensoniq HQ. The Sirens is the 20 femails, Monks 20 Males and Choir-Vox is them all singing together. Once again this sounds similar to the Choir that comes with the EPS 16 Plus, I have never been overly impressed with Ensoniq chiors and these are no exception. All I can say is they're "nice". So thats 4.9 disks, on the other 0.1 of the 5th disk is two (a bit cheasy in my opinion) vox-wave type sounds where they have looped an Ohhh Taaa close to the attack, both in the order of 40 blocks, you get the idea. I won't go out of my way to sell you these sounds, I am real fussy when it comes to Vocal samples, especially of Ahhhhsss and Ohhhhhh and OOOOooooohhhh's. I want...Enya on 16 Plus format that's what I am after. SL-4 "Pianos 1" (5 disks of "great" piano sounds, better IMHO than the two that came with the 16 Plus. Steinway 2 3010 blocks, small version 735 blocks. One thing I can say about piano samples is that I can't tell what you will think of them. Both pianos are in the same vein as the steinway and the bosendorfer that come with the 16 Plus. I can say that the Steinway 2 samples are at a higher sample rate and longer loop points. Steinway 2 sounds to me smooth, sweet and very nice better than Steinway 1 (comes with the EPS16 Plus). Bosendorfer 2 2806 Blocks sml bose 2 777 blocks. This Bosendorfer is not quite as "bright" as the Bosendorfer that comes with the EPS16 Plus. It's a much more smooth and musical sound, to my ears. The other thing I should say is that the manual that comes with this sound set is worth a read for it's own sake. The session was at "Mad hatter studios" and there are some great pics of a Steinway and a Bosendorfer with about every mic known to man pointing at them and guys trying to get in amongst the mess to actually get at the piano. There is some interesting text too...and that fills 5 disks. SL-5 "Pianos 2" (5 disks of Yamaha and Kawai piano samples). These pianos appear to be sampled with recording in a mix (rather than solo) in mind. Why do I say that? Well the manual says so. The First sound is KAWAI 1 which is a 3073 block multi sample of a Kawai located at "The Gallery Records" a studio belonging to Jazz producer and pianist Todd Cochran. This sound is a bit more clunky than the previous piano sounds and has a smooth mellow sustain to it. Good for ballads and softer arrangements. YAMAHA 1 is a 2995 block sample of a Yamaha C-7 (7 foot concert grand). This sample is brighter than the Kawai (not as bright as Bosendorfer 1 that comes with the EPS 16 Plus). The lows are quite deep and resonant and the highs, clean, bright and a bit thin (helps it to cut through a mix). That takes up the best part of 4 disks, whats on 5? Well ... SML KAW 1 (748 blocks) and SML YAM 1 (822). These are cut down versions of the major pianos. Both sound basically the same as the larger versions they come from, mainly because the only difference is the size and distance of the loops from the attack. In a mix, where these pianos are probably best, I think you'd be better off using the small versions (because you won't hear the difference) and saving your memory for that 1500 block bass sample. These two (SML KAW & YAM) stack quite nicely. By this stage I now have 2 Large Steinways, 2 large Bosendorfers and 1 Kawai and 1 Yamaha piano. I think I may be starting to suffer friom piano-sample overload. Have I found "the" perfect piano sample yet? No. Perhaps a 4080 block version may be just around the corner... Oh yes, BTW for all you EPS "Classic" users it appears that many of the above piano samples (SL-4 & 5) use the CHORUS FX to get that "triple wire" sound of the piano. Never fear because with the FX off they sound just fine. If you are fussy you can always create your own chorusing by copying layers and detuning a bit. Eats up polyphony tho. SL-6 "Brass" (5 disks of trumpet and trombone sounds. What can I say... They sound "fine". I played trombone for 8 years (given it up in favour of samplers) and I am happy with the brass on this disk. There are trumpets, 1300 blocks, trombones, muted trumpets and trombones some "great" BLAT'y Bass Trombone samples. These sounds will be useful for anyone who wants "ensemble" trumpet and trombone sounds. If I can find anything wrong with them they tent to sound a little "reedy" a bit of EQ can fix that however. Great sounds? No, I don't think so...good clean, quiet and honest samples I'd call them. SL-7 "Drum-loops" (5 disks of more than just drum loops...I think this is the cooolest sounds that I have yet heard comming from my EPS in a while. Cool because they are current, dance type sounds). It's all in the hip-hop, house, acid, rap style, loops are designed to be easily sync'd to any bpm. The manual shows you how to do it several ways, and the sounds have patches designed to help with this process. There are about 13 different loops there with their accompanying kits so you can make your own loops up. These are a must for acid/house hip-hop etc fans, the kits have been extracted from the loops so that you can make up your own loops, or spruce-up what's there. There are two other kits which are sampled from various drum machines, both around 900 blocks and they sound like a collection of 808, 909, 707 and "Kraftwerk" sounds. The kit called "Dance-drums" is simply excellent and so are the cool bass, goobs, FX and "hits". The manual is an must if you are trying to introduce someone to the jargon/meanings of the rap/house/acid/funk etc etc terms. SL-8 "Stringed Quartet" (6 disks, a bonus disk apparently). The set consists mainly of Vibrato and Arco (straight) versions of the Violin viola and cello. Thrown in for good measure are a set of Pizzicato strings (an 998 block instrument covering cello/viola/violin) and an instrument called "Chamber" (Arco - Violin, viola and cello trimmed and spread across the keyboard [901 blocks]). Well, if you are after some very "classical" - sounding samples of the above instruments this is the set for you. These string sounds appear (as their name suggests) to be designed for solo/quartet work, no lush orchestral string stacks like Full Strings that comes with the EPS-16 Plus (ED-13). The demo sequence shows that this set can make some impressively realistic "Stringed Quartet" sounds. One thing that did dissapoint me a bit was that there was no aggressive "bow-scrape" noise. I think they should have miked the bow and put it on a patch in another layer, but alas no. Hence you won't get these instruments to really "Grunt" if you want them to. Being a self appointed cello connoisseur I must say I'm not jumping up and down with excitement about these sounds. However, like the Brass (SL-6) these are honest, quiet, clean samples. But, don't sack the session string players just yet. SL-12 "Cellos" (5 disks). OK, now you can sack the session cello players at least. The set consists of 7 instruments on the 5 disks. The first instrument in the set is XPRSV CELLOS (3900 blocks!), this is simply the best/cleanest/grunty/plucky/smooth cellos I have heard come from my EPS16+, from any sampler...including the fairlight samples I was lamenting over above. Eight cellos were triple-tracked to produce this instrument. Pizzicato (Plucked) is inder 0*, "Colegno", slapping the strings with the bow is under *0 while ** has "Marcato" attacks. Marcato is "played in a prominent manner"...unfortunately you pay for it in blocks, however SML CELLOS (991 blocks) is a memory-conservative version of xprsv cellos and sounds just as good for Arco (straight bowing) but loses some of the other bowing styles that xprsv has hidden under patch buttons. These cello samples are simply fantastic. C-SPICATO (465 blocks) is next, spicato is the technique where the bow is "bounced" off the strings (similar to colegno but has some bowing motion at the same time). Great!. C-TREMOLO (987 blocks) is well done, and is actually rapid double-bowing of the notes, not "wobbling" the note as you may expect. Great for "horror" movie scores :-) It does get a little muddy/confused at the lower registers tho. C-HARMONICS (526 Blocks) are obviously cellos playing harmonics. Real good! Finaly C-GLIDE 1 (526 blocks) and C-GLIDE 2 (353 blocks) are a cello section performing "glides" :-) bowing a note while sliding the fingers up and down the finger-board. Movie-score materieal here. These cellos are part of a 4 set 20 disk series. Violin, Viola and Bass are also avaliable. I have heard the Violins and they are every bit as good as the cellos. This series has to be the finest set of string samples avaliable at this price-point and memory limitation, possibly better than this. I was thoroulgy amazed (yes I know, amazed AGAIN). I can bee seen being complacent about the strings of SL-8, if you think all I do is get amazed by Ensoniq :-) Finaly a word about the booklet that comes with the sounds, its a real interesting read, lots of great pictures of the sampling sessions (heaps of yummy mics visible). I'll review... SL-9: Flutes SL-10: Violin Section SL-11: Viola Section SL-13: Bass Section SL-14: Solo Instruments SL-15: Guitars SL-16: Synths. When I get them. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH:(09) 380 3574. _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 02:24:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 02:23 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA10237; Wed, 8 Jul 1992 12:01:07 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05507; Wed, 8 Jul 92 09:59:27 WST Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 09:59:27 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207080159.AA05507@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS! Ok Had a great time last night, there were about 25-30 people at the seminar that started at 7.00pm and went to 9.30pm (I'll tell you more about that leter). After that, when everyone had cleared (by 10.30, I spent 1.5 hours with the Ensoniq type personi and) I sifted through the questions with him. I also have now had a serious play with Beta-OS 1.17 too, more about that leter as well :-) Disclaimer/Warning...the following answers are HEARSAY AND SPECULATION and in NO WAY represent the policies/views of Ensoniq ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When/if is Copy/backup/restore going to be avaliable for the original EPS? A: Good question! :-) As Ensoniq are only going to make 1 more release of an OS for the "Classic" they are trying to get it "just right" as this is the last chance. Yes Copy/Backup/restore will be included as well as some "other" goodies??? As to when.... :-( No idea...but...sort of soon. ("Soon" in Ensoniq speak means Soon-as-we-get-a-round-to-it) Staff are working frantically on) OS 1.2 for the 16+. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is there going to be a Defrag utility for the hard-disk? A: An EPS has been seen with the words "DEFRAGMENT DISK?" flashing in it's display!!! When will "we" see this in "our" display..."soon" :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was just reading that Ensoniq was also the distributor for Notator (in the U.S. ) If you think the person your talking to may know, could you ask if there is going to be a port to the Macintosh? I've heard rumours that there will be. (They may not know though. I don't know if it means that Electric Factory are the Australian distributors.) A: Yes there is/will be a port to the Mac, the program is a major re-write, changes it's name and get's much much better. I had a play with the Beta-Release last night. Call John McCubbery at the Electric Factory for more details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is more of a suggestion than a question. Ask him about adding a disk compressor to the next OS version on the Classic and the 16. The Compressor would save the samples in a compressed format to save space. The OS should recognize a compressed instrument and uncompress it during loading. This A: :-) Don't hold your breath...too much hassle, not enough OS room and won't be an issue soon (see below). will take longer but it should also be optional. I would also like to see the OS support High Density disk drives (1.44 Megs). A: Not in the EPS16 Plus, however the EPS-line replacement will have at least 1.44 meg Floppy DD. At R&D Ensoniq there are a lot of 20meg floptical drives floating around, the sort that can read 800, 1.44meg and 20meg floppies. There is a possibility that these could turn up in the next incarnation. R&D apparently have an EPS16Plus with a 20meg floptical in it for "research" purposes :-) The thing that replaces the EPS16 Plus will be a complete revision of hardware/software, it will load EPS, EPS16 Plus sounds/sequences may lose the "load mirage sound" capability tho. It will have "at least" a 1.44 meg drive, Ram expansion to ... heaps more than now :-) highly likely to have stereo sampling, more voices. Internal HD capability. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EPS-32 reality? A. Highly unlikely, too much major software/hardware revision needed due to the sped-up clock speed required. As we are so close to a completely new sampler (year?), it's probably not worth the effort. How much normal (non-flash) RAM can we put in? SCSI standard? A. 2meg Room for hard drive in the rack-mount unit? A. ??? Is there or do you want to have room made? Solution, use an external. Upgrade path from EPS-16+R owners? A. ??? What do you mean. EPS-16 with > 2MB standard RAM? Will this ever be possible? A. Highly Unlikely. What is the technical reason for the 2MB limit? Address space on the DMA chips? A. Poor planning :-) OS/Hardware miss-management :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess I've got another question (wish) for the Ensoniq rep Scott's going to see. When are they going to write some disk utilities? For example, stuff like a defragger for the hard drive users, maybe some sort of move/copy commands, in general stuff that will make dealing with a hard drive a bit easier. A. On their way...soon :-) We may even see 3rd party OS in the vein of Waveboy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards Scott...don't forget what I said in the "disclaimer" :-) _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 03:16:00 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 03:15 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA13234; Wed, 8 Jul 1992 13:56:36 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05684; Wed, 8 Jul 92 11:55:02 WST Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 11:55:02 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207080355.AA05684@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Review 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 12 the new-ie For those of you who don't make it into a Ensoniq dealership very often or whose dealers don't stock the Ensoniq library I thought I'd review the list of "New" sounds that Ensoniq have released for the EPS 16 Plus, these follow the 15 disks that come with the machine. The LATEST ADDITION is SL-12 CELLOS The review contains the following... SL-1 HI-FI Kits. SL-2 Basses, Electric and Synth (Moog). SL-3 Vocals, Rock and Choir. SL-4 Pianos 1. SL-5 Pianos 2. SL-6 Brass (Trumpet and Trombone). SL-7 Dance, Drum Loops (and techno drum kits and Bass). SL-8 Stringed Quartet. SL-12 Cellos SL-1 "Hi-Fi Kits" (5 disks of 44.6 kHz sampled drum sounds, one disk (ED-20) has just crash, hi-hat and cymbal samples on it. This makes for some long (unlooped) decays on the crash. You will need 4X EPS, 2X 16 Plus memory to load up a full kit + these brass clangy bits. There are 3 disks of Main Kits of around 1500 blocks and one disk with 3 "small" kits around 450 blocks each and the above mentioned brass-clangy things disk. I won't go into too much detail because the sound/style of all the kits is in the vein of the "rock-drums" kit that comes with the EPS16 Plus, really. If you like "rock-drums" then you will like these. Clean, clear, punchy and dynamic samples. If you are after more 808/electronic sounds this set is not for you. You may want to try SL-7 for that (see below). SL-2 "Basses, electric and Synth" (5 disks, 3 are electric basses i.e fender etc, 1100+ block monsters that take up a disk each, there is a short version of each on the disk too 200-400 blocks. Personally I can't justify using 1300 blocks "just" on a electric bass sound, even more so when the "short" versions sound just as good in a mix, the short versions are simply looped closer to the attack. If you want to do solo electric bass licks then these are the sounds for you... two "straight" electric basses and 1 "slap" bass. The other two disks are what realy excited me about this library, Moog Basses. Today in the pop/dance music sceen moog basses are "must-have" sounds. There are 10 moog basses similar in quality to the moog bass on the disks that come with the EPS 16 Plus (in other words great!). They range from 60 to 817 blocks while most are around 120-300 blocks. For me these make the library worth it for the two disks of moog sounds alone. SL-3 "Vocals, Rock" (5 disks, EPS needs 4X expander 16+ needs 2X, to load one of the sounds) Huge Ahhhs: Huge is right 3339 Blocks so I think it deserves a "huge" slice of the SL-3 review. 3000+ blocks are usually reserved for famous LA studio Piano samples. Well this sound has about 8 multisamples in it and they are sampled at 48 kHz (Onto a "real" digital studio recorder). Well it sounds like males were used for the source and is quite smooth as it's real hard to hear any loops even at the extreem high register (the sound is spread over 3 disks BTW the third has 168 or so block on it) it reminded me of a Fairlight Ahhhhhhhh sound I once heard. In the lower registers it is Deep bright and full, in the higher registers clean, airy and smooth. Given the size of this sound I was a little dissapointed with it when I first loaded it up and played a few random notes. I was expecting something "amazing" for this number of blocks. However when I played the demo I really started to appreceate the quality of the samples used and the effectivesess of the sound. The patch selects give you octaved, dark (filtered), chorused versions of the original. Not much change from 4080 blocks tho, you are left with 741. Can/will you use it? Got a 16 track and/or 16X memory expansion? Roc Vox 1: 1525 Block UUH and AAH with an Aaaaaaahhh-ish quality, Roc Vox 2: 1571 Block AAY and OOH with an Aaaaaaahhh-ish quality, The demo uses both Roc VOX 1 & 2, given there are 8 patches between them and 4 vowel sounds there is a lot of scope for vocal variation. The demo sounds quite good. Me personally playing around with the sounds, did not think they were as impressive as the Mirage Ahhhh, Tahhh Doooo sounds. Well the quality was better, the sound was "bigger" but, well I suppose I beginning to get too fussy. Finaly there is Sirens (Greek mythology type not police) Monks and Choir-Vox. All these are actually a private school choir from PA somewhere close to Ensoniq HQ. The Sirens is the 20 femails, Monks 20 Males and Choir-Vox is them all singing together. Once again this sounds similar to the Choir that comes with the EPS 16 Plus, I have never been overly impressed with Ensoniq chiors and these are no exception. All I can say is they're "nice". So thats 4.9 disks, on the other 0.1 of the 5th disk is two (a bit cheasy in my opinion) vox-wave type sounds where they have looped an Ohhh Taaa close to the attack, both in the order of 40 blocks, you get the idea. I won't go out of my way to sell you these sounds, I am real fussy when it comes to Vocal samples, especially of Ahhhhsss and Ohhhhhh and OOOOooooohhhh's. I want...Enya on 16 Plus format that's what I am after. SL-4 "Pianos 1" (5 disks of "great" piano sounds, better IMHO than the two that came with the 16 Plus. Steinway 2 3010 blocks, small version 735 blocks. One thing I can say about piano samples is that I can't tell what you will think of them. Both pianos are in the same vein as the steinway and the bosendorfer that come with the 16 Plus. I can say that the Steinway 2 samples are at a higher sample rate and longer loop points. Steinway 2 sounds to me smooth, sweet and very nice better than Steinway 1 (comes with the EPS16 Plus). Bosendorfer 2 2806 Blocks sml bose 2 777 blocks. This Bosendorfer is not quite as "bright" as the Bosendorfer that comes with the EPS16 Plus. It's a much more smooth and musical sound, to my ears. The other thing I should say is that the manual that comes with this sound set is worth a read for it's own sake. The session was at "Mad hatter studios" and there are some great pics of a Steinway and a Bosendorfer with about every mic known to man pointing at them and guys trying to get in amongst the mess to actually get at the piano. There is some interesting text too...and that fills 5 disks. SL-5 "Pianos 2" (5 disks of Yamaha and Kawai piano samples). These pianos appear to be sampled with recording in a mix (rather than solo) in mind. Why do I say that? Well the manual says so. The First sound is KAWAI 1 which is a 3073 block multi sample of a Kawai located at "The Gallery Records" a studio belonging to Jazz producer and pianist Todd Cochran. This sound is a bit more clunky than the previous piano sounds and has a smooth mellow sustain to it. Good for ballads and softer arrangements. YAMAHA 1 is a 2995 block sample of a Yamaha C-7 (7 foot concert grand). This sample is brighter than the Kawai (not as bright as Bosendorfer 1 that comes with the EPS 16 Plus). The lows are quite deep and resonant and the highs, clean, bright and a bit thin (helps it to cut through a mix). That takes up the best part of 4 disks, whats on 5? Well ... SML KAW 1 (748 blocks) and SML YAM 1 (822). These are cut down versions of the major pianos. Both sound basically the same as the larger versions they come from, mainly because the only difference is the size and distance of the loops from the attack. In a mix, where these pianos are probably best, I think you'd be better off using the small versions (because you won't hear the difference) and saving your memory for that 1500 block bass sample. These two (SML KAW & YAM) stack quite nicely. By this stage I now have 2 Large Steinways, 2 large Bosendorfers and 1 Kawai and 1 Yamaha piano. I think I may be starting to suffer friom piano-sample overload. Have I found "the" perfect piano sample yet? No. Perhaps a 4080 block version may be just around the corner... Oh yes, BTW for all you EPS "Classic" users it appears that many of the above piano samples (SL-4 & 5) use the CHORUS FX to get that "triple wire" sound of the piano. Never fear because with the FX off they sound just fine. If you are fussy you can always create your own chorusing by copying layers and detuning a bit. Eats up polyphony tho. SL-6 "Brass" (5 disks of trumpet and trombone sounds. What can I say... They sound "fine". I played trombone for 8 years (given it up in favour of samplers) and I am happy with the brass on this disk. There are trumpets, 1300 blocks, trombones, muted trumpets and trombones some "great" BLAT'y Bass Trombone samples. These sounds will be useful for anyone who wants "ensemble" trumpet and trombone sounds. If I can find anything wrong with them they tent to sound a little "reedy" a bit of EQ can fix that however. Great sounds? No, I don't think so...good clean, quiet and honest samples I'd call them. SL-7 "Drum-loops" (5 disks of more than just drum loops...I think this is the cooolest sounds that I have yet heard comming from my EPS in a while. Cool because they are current, dance type sounds). It's all in the hip-hop, house, acid, rap style, loops are designed to be easily sync'd to any bpm. The manual shows you how to do it several ways, and the sounds have patches designed to help with this process. There are about 13 different loops there with their accompanying kits so you can make your own loops up. These are a must for acid/house hip-hop etc fans, the kits have been extracted from the loops so that you can make up your own loops, or spruce-up what's there. There are two other kits which are sampled from various drum machines, both around 900 blocks and they sound like a collection of 808, 909, 707 and "Kraftwerk" sounds. The kit called "Dance-drums" is simply excellent and so are the cool bass, goobs, FX and "hits". The manual is an must if you are trying to introduce someone to the jargon/meanings of the rap/house/acid/funk etc etc terms. SL-8 "Stringed Quartet" (6 disks, a bonus disk apparently). The set consists mainly of Vibrato and Arco (straight) versions of the Violin viola and cello. Thrown in for good measure are a set of Pizzicato strings (an 998 block instrument covering cello/viola/violin) and an instrument called "Chamber" (Arco - Violin, viola and cello trimmed and spread across the keyboard [901 blocks]). Well, if you are after some very "classical" - sounding samples of the above instruments this is the set for you. These string sounds appear (as their name suggests) to be designed for solo/quartet work, no lush orchestral string stacks like Full Strings that comes with the EPS-16 Plus (ED-13). The demo sequence shows that this set can make some impressively realistic "Stringed Quartet" sounds. One thing that did dissapoint me a bit was that there was no aggressive "bow-scrape" noise. I think they should have miked the bow and put it on a patch in another layer, but alas no. Hence you won't get these instruments to really "Grunt" if you want them to. Being a self appointed cello connoisseur I must say I'm not jumping up and down with excitement about these sounds. However, like the Brass (SL-6) these are honest, quiet, clean samples. But, don't sack the session string players just yet. SL-12 "Cellos" (5 disks). OK, now you can sack the session cello players at least. The set consists of 7 instruments on the 5 disks. The first instrument in the set is XPRSV CELLOS (3900 blocks!), this is simply the best/cleanest/grunty/plucky/smooth cellos I have heard come from my EPS16+, from any sampler...including the fairlight samples I was lamenting over above. Eight cellos were triple-tracked to produce this instrument. Pizzicato (Plucked) is inder 0*, "Colegno", slapping the strings with the bow is under *0 while ** has "Marcato" attacks. Marcato is "played in a prominent manner"...unfortunately you pay for it in blocks, however SML CELLOS (991 blocks) is a memory-conservative version of xprsv cellos and sounds just as good for Arco (straight bowing) but loses some of the other bowing styles that xprsv has hidden under patch buttons. These cello samples are simply fantastic. C-SPICATO (465 blocks) is next, spicato is the technique where the bow is "bounced" off the strings (similar to colegno but has some bowing motion at the same time). Great!. C-TREMOLO (987 blocks) is well done, and is actually rapid double-bowing of the notes, not "wobbling" the note as you may expect. Great for "horror" movie scores :-) It does get a little muddy/confused at the lower registers tho. C-HARMONICS (526 Blocks) are obviously cellos playing harmonics. Real good! Finaly C-GLIDE 1 (526 blocks) and C-GLIDE 2 (353 blocks) are a cello section performing "glides" :-) bowing a note while sliding the fingers up and down the finger-board. Movie-score materieal here. These cellos are part of a 4 set 20 disk series. Violin, Viola and Bass are also avaliable. I have heard the Violins and they are every bit as good as the cellos. This series has to be the finest set of string samples avaliable at this price-point and memory limitation, possibly better than this. I was thoroulgy amazed (yes I know, amazed AGAIN). I can bee seen being complacent about the strings of SL-8, if you think all I do is get amazed by Ensoniq :-) Finaly a word about the booklet that comes with the sounds, its a real interesting read, lots of great pictures of the sampling sessions (heaps of yummy mics visible). I'll review... SL-9: Flutes SL-10: Violin Section SL-11: Viola Section SL-13: Bass Section SL-14: Solo Instruments SL-15: Guitars SL-16: Synths. When I get them. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH:(09) 380 3574. _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 03:18:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 03:18 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA18107; Wed, 8 Jul 1992 16:39:58 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06292; Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:38:28 WST Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:38:28 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207080638.AA06292@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: New review SL-12 (1-8 also) For those of you who don't make it into a Ensoniq dealership very often or whose dealers don't stock the Ensoniq library I thought I'd review the list of "New" sounds that Ensoniq have released for the EPS 16 Plus, these follow the 15 disks that come with the machine. The LATEST ADDITION is SL-12 CELLOS The review contains the following... SL-1 HI-FI Kits. SL-2 Basses, Electric and Synth (Moog). SL-3 Vocals, Rock and Choir. SL-4 Pianos 1. SL-5 Pianos 2. SL-6 Brass (Trumpet and Trombone). SL-7 Dance, Drum Loops (and techno drum kits and Bass). SL-8 Stringed Quartet. SL-12 Cellos SL-1 "Hi-Fi Kits" (5 disks of 44.6 kHz sampled drum sounds, one disk (ED-20) has just crash, hi-hat and cymbal samples on it. This makes for some long (unlooped) decays on the crash. You will need 4X EPS, 2X 16 Plus memory to load up a full kit + these brass clangy bits. There are 3 disks of Main Kits of around 1500 blocks and one disk with 3 "small" kits around 450 blocks each and the above mentioned brass-clangy things disk. I won't go into too much detail because the sound/style of all the kits is in the vein of the "rock-drums" kit that comes with the EPS16 Plus, really. If you like "rock-drums" then you will like these. Clean, clear, punchy and dynamic samples. If you are after more 808/electronic sounds this set is not for you. You may want to try SL-7 for that (see below). SL-2 "Basses, electric and Synth" (5 disks, 3 are electric basses i.e fender etc, 1100+ block monsters that take up a disk each, there is a short version of each on the disk too 200-400 blocks. Personally I can't justify using 1300 blocks "just" on a electric bass sound, even more so when the "short" versions sound just as good in a mix, the short versions are simply looped closer to the attack. If you want to do solo electric bass licks then these are the sounds for you... two "straight" electric basses and 1 "slap" bass. The other two disks are what realy excited me about this library, Moog Basses. Today in the pop/dance music sceen moog basses are "must-have" sounds. There are 10 moog basses similar in quality to the moog bass on the disks that come with the EPS 16 Plus (in other words great!). They range from 60 to 817 blocks while most are around 120-300 blocks. For me these make the library worth it for the two disks of moog sounds alone. SL-3 "Vocals, Rock" (5 disks, EPS needs 4X expander 16+ needs 2X, to load one of the sounds) Huge Ahhhs: Huge is right 3339 Blocks so I think it deserves a "huge" slice of the SL-3 review. 3000+ blocks are usually reserved for famous LA studio Piano samples. Well this sound has about 8 multisamples in it and they are sampled at 48 kHz (Onto a "real" digital studio recorder). Well it sounds like males were used for the source and is quite smooth as it's real hard to hear any loops even at the extreem high register (the sound is spread over 3 disks BTW the third has 168 or so block on it) it reminded me of a Fairlight Ahhhhhhhh sound I once heard. In the lower registers it is Deep bright and full, in the higher registers clean, airy and smooth. Given the size of this sound I was a little dissapointed with it when I first loaded it up and played a few random notes. I was expecting something "amazing" for this number of blocks. However when I played the demo I really started to appreceate the quality of the samples used and the effectivesess of the sound. The patch selects give you octaved, dark (filtered), chorused versions of the original. Not much change from 4080 blocks tho, you are left with 741. Can/will you use it? Got a 16 track and/or 16X memory expansion? Roc Vox 1: 1525 Block UUH and AAH with an Aaaaaaahhh-ish quality, Roc Vox 2: 1571 Block AAY and OOH with an Aaaaaaahhh-ish quality, The demo uses both Roc VOX 1 & 2, given there are 8 patches between them and 4 vowel sounds there is a lot of scope for vocal variation. The demo sounds quite good. Me personally playing around with the sounds, did not think they were as impressive as the Mirage Ahhhh, Tahhh Doooo sounds. Well the quality was better, the sound was "bigger" but, well I suppose I beginning to get too fussy. Finaly there is Sirens (Greek mythology type not police) Monks and Choir-Vox. All these are actually a private school choir from PA somewhere close to Ensoniq HQ. The Sirens is the 20 femails, Monks 20 Males and Choir-Vox is them all singing together. Once again this sounds similar to the Choir that comes with the EPS 16 Plus, I have never been overly impressed with Ensoniq chiors and these are no exception. All I can say is they're "nice". So thats 4.9 disks, on the other 0.1 of the 5th disk is two (a bit cheasy in my opinion) vox-wave type sounds where they have looped an Ohhh Taaa close to the attack, both in the order of 40 blocks, you get the idea. I won't go out of my way to sell you these sounds, I am real fussy when it comes to Vocal samples, especially of Ahhhhsss and Ohhhhhh and OOOOooooohhhh's. I want...Enya on 16 Plus format that's what I am after. SL-4 "Pianos 1" (5 disks of "great" piano sounds, better IMHO than the two that came with the 16 Plus. Steinway 2 3010 blocks, small version 735 blocks. One thing I can say about piano samples is that I can't tell what you will think of them. Both pianos are in the same vein as the steinway and the bosendorfer that come with the 16 Plus. I can say that the Steinway 2 samples are at a higher sample rate and longer loop points. Steinway 2 sounds to me smooth, sweet and very nice better than Steinway 1 (comes with the EPS16 Plus). Bosendorfer 2 2806 Blocks sml bose 2 777 blocks. This Bosendorfer is not quite as "bright" as the Bosendorfer that comes with the EPS16 Plus. It's a much more smooth and musical sound, to my ears. The other thing I should say is that the manual that comes with this sound set is worth a read for it's own sake. The session was at "Mad hatter studios" and there are some great pics of a Steinway and a Bosendorfer with about every mic known to man pointing at them and guys trying to get in amongst the mess to actually get at the piano. There is some interesting text too...and that fills 5 disks. SL-5 "Pianos 2" (5 disks of Yamaha and Kawai piano samples). These pianos appear to be sampled with recording in a mix (rather than solo) in mind. Why do I say that? Well the manual says so. The First sound is KAWAI 1 which is a 3073 block multi sample of a Kawai located at "The Gallery Records" a studio belonging to Jazz producer and pianist Todd Cochran. This sound is a bit more clunky than the previous piano sounds and has a smooth mellow sustain to it. Good for ballads and softer arrangements. YAMAHA 1 is a 2995 block sample of a Yamaha C-7 (7 foot concert grand). This sample is brighter than the Kawai (not as bright as Bosendorfer 1 that comes with the EPS 16 Plus). The lows are quite deep and resonant and the highs, clean, bright and a bit thin (helps it to cut through a mix). That takes up the best part of 4 disks, whats on 5? Well ... SML KAW 1 (748 blocks) and SML YAM 1 (822). These are cut down versions of the major pianos. Both sound basically the same as the larger versions they come from, mainly because the only difference is the size and distance of the loops from the attack. In a mix, where these pianos are probably best, I think you'd be better off using the small versions (because you won't hear the difference) and saving your memory for that 1500 block bass sample. These two (SML KAW & YAM) stack quite nicely. By this stage I now have 2 Large Steinways, 2 large Bosendorfers and 1 Kawai and 1 Yamaha piano. I think I may be starting to suffer friom piano-sample overload. Have I found "the" perfect piano sample yet? No. Perhaps a 4080 block version may be just around the corner... Oh yes, BTW for all you EPS "Classic" users it appears that many of the above piano samples (SL-4 & 5) use the CHORUS FX to get that "triple wire" sound of the piano. Never fear because with the FX off they sound just fine. If you are fussy you can always create your own chorusing by copying layers and detuning a bit. Eats up polyphony tho. SL-6 "Brass" (5 disks of trumpet and trombone sounds. What can I say... They sound "fine". I played trombone for 8 years (given it up in favour of samplers) and I am happy with the brass on this disk. There are trumpets, 1300 blocks, trombones, muted trumpets and trombones some "great" BLAT'y Bass Trombone samples. These sounds will be useful for anyone who wants "ensemble" trumpet and trombone sounds. If I can find anything wrong with them they tent to sound a little "reedy" a bit of EQ can fix that however. Great sounds? No, I don't think so...good clean, quiet and honest samples I'd call them. SL-7 "Drum-loops" (5 disks of more than just drum loops...I think this is the cooolest sounds that I have yet heard comming from my EPS in a while. Cool because they are current, dance type sounds). It's all in the hip-hop, house, acid, rap style, loops are designed to be easily sync'd to any bpm. The manual shows you how to do it several ways, and the sounds have patches designed to help with this process. There are about 13 different loops there with their accompanying kits so you can make your own loops up. These are a must for acid/house hip-hop etc fans, the kits have been extracted from the loops so that you can make up your own loops, or spruce-up what's there. There are two other kits which are sampled from various drum machines, both around 900 blocks and they sound like a collection of 808, 909, 707 and "Kraftwerk" sounds. The kit called "Dance-drums" is simply excellent and so are the cool bass, goobs, FX and "hits". The manual is an must if you are trying to introduce someone to the jargon/meanings of the rap/house/acid/funk etc etc terms. SL-8 "Stringed Quartet" (6 disks, a bonus disk apparently). The set consists mainly of Vibrato and Arco (straight) versions of the Violin viola and cello. Thrown in for good measure are a set of Pizzicato strings (an 998 block instrument covering cello/viola/violin) and an instrument called "Chamber" (Arco - Violin, viola and cello trimmed and spread across the keyboard [901 blocks]). Well, if you are after some very "classical" - sounding samples of the above instruments this is the set for you. These string sounds appear (as their name suggests) to be designed for solo/quartet work, no lush orchestral string stacks like Full Strings that comes with the EPS-16 Plus (ED-13). The demo sequence shows that this set can make some impressively realistic "Stringed Quartet" sounds. One thing that did dissapoint me a bit was that there was no aggressive "bow-scrape" noise. I think they should have miked the bow and put it on a patch in another layer, but alas no. Hence you won't get these instruments to really "Grunt" if you want them to. Being a self appointed cello connoisseur I must say I'm not jumping up and down with excitement about these sounds. However, like the Brass (SL-6) these are honest, quiet, clean samples. But, don't sack the session string players just yet. SL-12 "Cellos" (5 disks). OK, now you can sack the session cello players at least. The set consists of 7 instruments on the 5 disks. The first instrument in the set is XPRSV CELLOS (3900 blocks!), this is simply the best/cleanest/grunty/plucky/smooth cellos I have heard come from my EPS16+, from any sampler...including the fairlight samples I was lamenting over above. Eight cellos were triple-tracked to produce this instrument. Pizzicato (Plucked) is inder 0*, "Colegno", slapping the strings with the bow is under *0 while ** has "Marcato" attacks. Marcato is "played in a prominent manner"...unfortunately you pay for it in blocks, however SML CELLOS (991 blocks) is a memory-conservative version of xprsv cellos and sounds just as good for Arco (straight bowing) but loses some of the other bowing styles that xprsv has hidden under patch buttons. These cello samples are simply fantastic. C-SPICATO (465 blocks) is next, spicato is the technique where the bow is "bounced" off the strings (similar to colegno but has some bowing motion at the same time). Great!. C-TREMOLO (987 blocks) is well done, and is actually rapid double-bowing of the notes, not "wobbling" the note as you may expect. Great for "horror" movie scores :-) It does get a little muddy/confused at the lower registers tho. C-HARMONICS (526 Blocks) are obviously cellos playing harmonics. Real good! Finaly C-GLIDE 1 (526 blocks) and C-GLIDE 2 (353 blocks) are a cello section performing "glides" :-) bowing a note while sliding the fingers up and down the finger-board. Movie-score materieal here. These cellos are part of a 4 set 20 disk series. Violin, Viola and Bass are also avaliable. I have heard the Violins and they are every bit as good as the cellos. This series has to be the finest set of string samples avaliable at this price-point and memory limitation, possibly better than this. I was thoroulgy amazed (yes I know, amazed AGAIN). I can bee seen being complacent about the strings of SL-8, if you think all I do is get amazed by Ensoniq :-) Finaly a word about the booklet that comes with the sounds, its a real interesting read, lots of great pictures of the sampling sessions (heaps of yummy mics visible). I'll review... SL-9: Flutes SL-10: Violin Section SL-11: Viola Section SL-13: Bass Section SL-14: Solo Instruments SL-15: Guitars SL-16: Synths. When I get them. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH:(09) 380 3574. _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dacnet.com!tom Wed Jul 8 07:22:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.77.177.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 07:21 PDT Message-Id: Received: by stubby.dacnet.com (16.6/16.2) id AA11344; Wed, 8 Jul 92 10:02:29 -0400 From: Tom Roehl Subject: Samples and Macs To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq Mailing List) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 10:02:29 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Hi, I'm new to this group, so I'm not sure if this has been answered or not. I've got an EPS classic as well as Mac, and I've been following wondering what options I have as far as transferring samples between the EPS and my Mac. Due to limitations of the mac disk driver, it doesn't look like there will ever be a version of epsread/epswrite for the mac :( Anyway, from reading past digests, I've seen references to transferring samples with MIDI. How is this done? Is it like a sysex dump or something? I have access to PCs, but they're a hassle to get to. Thanks, Tom From wri.com!andre Wed Jul 8 10:14:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 10:13 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA11488 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 8 Jul 1992 12:13:39 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 12:13:38 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9207081713.AA00833@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: New review SL-12 (1-8 also) Next-Attachment: .tar.942.Re__New_review_SL_12_.attach, 1060, 1/1, 1518, 0 begin 666 .tar.942.Re__New_review_SL_12_.attach M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FC0``$`A(P9-&K$X'@1 M1`R-)$N6C`'2QL4:,F38L"$C1@P8,$K:@!'C1L>*0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),J7[@<-`.#2Q@W<])$-?/TZ8MAPH3JVS9N!(*&C9DY._HHX-(F MC)PS;&+(@#&W[ETY,7#@G`O'+ADN=/#DV(D83XP<>QO+P"&X\0P<-*HFIB%8 M,YX:-Q@GMG$C"H(+FZIHY(+C*`4$' M31D09-+,60-"3AD[:7.V>9DPR=V<`7&5 M#`@Q9;Z6&5[\*G$Y>0*NI_,&>9DQ:$='7*@=UQ=9X2A1T!E`(<"B/FI1UQ_8<`!QWES'%=< M&6D,AYX=\RE8HQS`N=$?&6_4(08=*;C`Q5P*)`%"'3425V`14$S10@PVK/`B M"'/4(2,;&[:QH1AAC+&&E^^U%]P;.H+`1G8@4/A=;]XY220(`4EYG(?M&=;< M&V8:^$8;8O3'8T#5S=%?;]"YJ&@;QXU77AEL_`?B@FG.`=P<8;0!1Z7`*<<> M"..14:-`:PX'Z79.%A<0GA%B M>OL9ER,(<*1Q57^<>@HJ>\#=02D;VU$!HYMPRCGC&Y^645T8I)+G7K//=QAWXW!L@B#DA_W!48<<8_06I:O`%5H0 M=]Z!!]Q`9@04*Z4;DCN&K6&`Z6&J')81PI)+!K&$`G(]I?+*++?L\LLPQRSS MS#37;//-..>L\\X\]^SSST`'+?301!=M]-%()ZWTTDPW[?334$ Received: from 137.39.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 10:31 PDT Received: from sco.sco.COM by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA07984; Wed, 8 Jul 92 13:31:29 -0400 Received: from fscott.sco.COM by sco.sco.COM id aa17973; Wed, 8 Jul 92 10:30:38 PDT To: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: Scott Fisher's message of Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:38:28 WST <9207080638.AA06292@psy.uwa.edu.au> Subject: New review SL-12 (1-8 also) From: Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic Sender: jondr@sco.COM Reply-To: jondr@sco.COM Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 10:31:31 PDT Message-Id: <9207081031.aa10610@fscott.sco.COM> thanks scott for the reviews of the new EPS disks. are these disks available to anyone with a lot of blank disk space and free time on their hands or do you actually have to pay Real Money for them? if the former, any chance of having some of them put in the ftp archive? the dance/acidhouse set sounds particularly appealing. Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ) uunet!sco!jondr jondr@sco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A bullet and a ballet are a vowel apart. - Happyhead From silver.lcs.mit.edu!kalin Wed Jul 8 13:10:58 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 18.52.0.230 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 13:10 PDT Received: by silver.lcs.mit.edu id AA27404; Wed, 8 Jul 92 16:10:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 16:10:41 -0400 From: kalin@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Dan Kalin) Message-Id: <9207082010.AA27404@silver.lcs.mit.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS-16+ For Sale For Sale: Ensoniq EPS-16+ with 2X memory expander and SCSI interface. $1795 Mint condition, mainly studio use, never any problems. E-mail if interested. -Dan Kalin (kalin@silver.lcs.mit.edu) From acd4.acd.com!nlm Wed Jul 8 14:52:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 137.39.1.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:50 PDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA20391; Wed, 8 Jul 92 17:50:18 -0400 Received: from acd4.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 174840.15901; Wed, 8 Jul 1992 17:48:40 EDT Received: by IEDV5.acd.com (5.57/Ultrix2.3-C) id AA11262; Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:23:02 EST Date: Wed, 8 Jul 92 14:23:02 EST From: nlm@acd4.acd.com ( Nathan Miles (ICTT) ) Message-Id: <9207081923.AA11262@IEDV5.acd.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Trumpet Samples Greetings, The Proteus has a sample called "velocity falls". This is a trumpet sample in whcich if you play a note with sufficient velocity the sample terminates with a rapidly dropping pitch and (I think) darkening tone quality. 1) Has anybody out there tried to duplicate this effect with envelopes? 2) Does anyone know of a source of an EPS sample producing this effect? 3) Do you have a "killer" trumpet sample you'd like to recommend? Currently I use the converted version of the Mirage disk (C-4 I think) trumpets. I normally layer it with the second layer pitched an octave up. It sounds pretty good in general with just a touch of reverb added but I'd like to be able to add some more expression occasionally. Nathan Miles nlm@acd4 From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Wed Jul 8 17:20:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 17:20 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <09606-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 02:20:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1992 02:20:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9207090020.AAfidibus23383@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: Samples and Macs Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no In respons to , Tom Roehl : >Hi, > >I'm new to this group, so I'm not sure if this has been answered or not. >I've got an EPS classic as well as Mac, and I've been following wondering >what options I have as far as transferring samples between the EPS and my Mac. [ Rest Deleted] I'm sorry I cannot restrain myself, my advice, : Do like everyone else, not only Mac users. Get the EPS-SAT button. Which is a simple button you glue on to your EPS and works similar to a flash bank with instant satelite acess to the EPS ftp site, as well as your ( Mac) computer. It's free. Only requres ethernet card on your Mac :-) //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ---------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 18:21:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 18:21 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA17315; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 11:21:25 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07698; Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:19:55 WST Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:19:55 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207090119.AA07698@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS 16 Plus Beta-OS 1.17 Yup it's true I got to play with OS 1.17 for the EPS-16Plus. I think there may be 1.18 or 1.19 floating around in the beta-test circles. Now as I go throough this remember that it's version 1.17 and thus may not even remotely resemble what 1.2 looks like :-) 1.17 appears different from 1.1 in that under the [COMMAND][SEQUENCE] page there is a "SELECT LOADABLE INST" option added. Let me take you through it... [COMAND][SEQ] scroll "SELECT LOADABLE INST" [ENTER/YES] "- - - - - - - -" then appears. Each blank stands for a instrument/track on the sequencer. Before you start you must load up the first batch of sounds for the sequence and then decide which ones will be loadable. This stage locks in just how much memory will be dedicated to loadable instruments. Example... INST = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 drum horn vox toilet fx1 fx2 synth bass blocks 500 200 400 200 40 40 300 200 So if you (on the select loadable instrument page) pick ... "1 - - 4 - - - 8" you will have set instruments 1, 4 and 8 to be loadable. Setting these is exactly the same as selecting layers on the [EDIT][INST] page, in that placing your cursor over the space and hitting [YES] or [^] will cause the number to appear. In the above example you will have also (by convention) allocated 900 blocks of RAM to loadable instruments. That means that not only 1, 4 and 8 may be load-while play but 900 blocks will be dedicated for load-while play between them. Any ratio of blocks per instrument can be use at any time. Just another example to clear things up...if you selected instruments 1,2,3,4 as "loadable" you would have (by default) also allocated 1300 blocks to be used for loadable instruments and no more. Make sense now? Yup, so depending on the size of the instrument/s you select to be loadable, that's your memory avaliable for load while play. It appears that you can have 1 or 8 instruments in the load while play category. [ENTER/YES] "Shuffling data" Now we are ready to go...record your sequence make your song, whatever. When you identify the place in the sequence where you want a sound to load you simply go into REC/OVERDUB mode and go through the motions of loading the sound you want, the display then shows "RECORDING..." but it does not appear to load the instrument at that point, when you stop the sequence and then start it again before or after saying KEEP NEW, the EPS will load the sound you selected to load at the moment in the sequence you did it. You can do this as many times as you want (as far as I could see). I think you can take the "loadable" sounds from as many floppies as you want or grab, em off the HD. I didn't see any other features in 1.17 besides the load-while-play function, it is possible that I missed them tho :-) Oh, yes 1.17 appeared to have the macros disabled, don't know if that is significant. Probably a temporary thing at that revision. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 18:43:40 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 18:43 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA17946; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 11:43:13 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07780; Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:41:36 WST Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:41:36 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207090141.AA07780@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Apologisisis Humble apologies to people out there who got 27 copies of the review thing :-( My fault..as pennance I have typed in 1 copy of the 1.17 review :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 19:00:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 19:00 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA18437; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 12:00:14 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07856; Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:58:34 WST Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:58:34 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207090158.AA07856@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SL 1-12 avaliability >From: Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic > >thanks scott for the reviews of the new EPS disks. are these disks >available to anyone with a lot of blank disk space and free time on >their hands or do you actually have to pay Real Money for them? These are copyright (Ensoniq) sounds. You will have to pay real money for them. I did a deal with my local shop when I got my EPS 16 Plus that "If I buy it here will you sell me sounds at ceaper than RRP?". Sure, they want to sell you an EPS :-) Thus I now get sounds at much less than RRP, a good trick if you can arrange it. Something to remember when you are buying your next sampler. No skin of their nose and Ensoniq still gets all the money they deserve. >if the former, any chance of having some of them put in the ftp >archive? the dance/acidhouse set sounds particularly appealing. The ftp site is for public domain sounds only, sorry to play net.police.man but we don't want to A) get into trouble with lawyers B) Lose our site/group. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Wed Jul 8 19:12:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 8 Jul 92 19:12 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA18727; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 12:11:55 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07976; Thu, 9 Jul 92 10:10:25 WST Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 10:10:25 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9207090210.AA07976@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Velocity Falls (Trumpet) Subject: Trumpet Samples Natham writes... >Greetings, > >The Proteus has a sample called "velocity falls". This is a trumpet sample >in whcich if you play a note with sufficient velocity the sample terminates >with a rapidly dropping pitch and (I think) darkening tone quality. > >1) Has anybody out there tried to duplicate this effect with envelopes? Well it seems to me that you want at least 2 layers, layer 1 the normal (looped) trumpet sound, layer 2 the same sound but with a different set of envelopes. Use velocity switching to cut layer 2 in when 1 goes out. Layer 2, tie pitch to ENV 1 and set ENV 1 to a RAMP DOWN, and also set ENV 2 and/or ENV 3 to the same RAMP DOWN. This should be a good starting point. I'll see what I can do tonight and mabe upload something. Great...A good reason to be fiddling with my EPS tonight, I can say to my wife..."I am doing this for a friend, not just wastingf time :-)" >3) Do you have a "killer" trumpet sample you'd like to recommend? I think the archive site (nextweek.reed.edu /pub/samples) has some fairly good brass samples. Help anyone? Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@psy.uwa.oz.au] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3272). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Thu Jul 9 08:20:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 08:19 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <21113-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 17:19:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1992 17:19:29 +0200 Message-Id: <9207091519.AAfidibus25146@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: Re: Samples and Macs Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no >> Do like everyone else, not only Mac users. Get the EPS-SAT button. Which is a >> simple button you glue on to your EPS and works similar to a flash bank with >> instant satelite acess to the EPS ftp site, as well as your ( Mac) computer. >> It's free. Only requres ethernet card on your Mac > >Could you elaborate on this EPS-SAT button? I've never heard of it before. >I'm real new to working with samplers and MIDI, so don't take anything for >granted. Thanks, > >Tom Well a picture explains more than words, below you see a computer ascii graph of it . Hope that helps, Terje //////// / /////////// / / instad / / erje ---------------------- From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Thu Jul 9 09:01:02 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 08:58 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 09 Jul 92 11:54:04 EDT Date: 9 Jul 92 11:54:55 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: VFX disks 1-10 To: eps@reed.edu Return-receipt-to: mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu Subject: VFX disks 1-10 Hello EPSers, This morning I uploaded 10 disk images to nextweek.reed.edu. Most of the samples listed below are single sample spread across the keyboard. In some cases aliasing necessitated multiple samples. Here is a listing of what is on the disks VFX-1 thru VFX-10. What I did was sample the waveforms of the VFX without any envelope, effects, LFO or anything that creates vibrato. This way I could get the smallest possible loop and conserve memory. The plan is to be able to create the same patches that the VFX has by combining the wave forms, duplicating the envelope settings and, for those using the EPS 16+, the effects settings. In theory any sound that the VFX can do the EPS should be able to duplicate and not use a whole lot of memory. Have fun. mike a. Disk# Sound Name Size ---------------------------------------- VFX-1 Strings 459 VFX-1 Pizzi-str 79 VFX-1 Grand-pno 307 VFX-1 Piano Var 198 VFX-1 Digipiano 295 VFX-1 Clavpiano 209 VFX-2 Acous-gtr 268 VFX-2 Guit Var1 99 VFX-2 Guit Var2 478 VFX-2 Gtr-harmo 33 VFX-2 El-guitar 78 VFX-2 Pluck-gtr 66 VFX-2 Chukka-gt 71 VFX-2 Crunch-gt 171 VFX-2 Crunch-lp 132 VFX-3 Uni-brass 344 VFX-3 Trumpet 173 VFX-3 Trump Var 103 VFX-3 Frenchorn 128 VFX-3 Fhorn Var 308 VFX-3 saxaphone 173 VFX-3 Sax Var-1 249 VFX-4 Sax Var-2 194 VFX-4 Pick-bass 168 VFX-4 Pop-bass 121 VFX-4 Pluck-bass 183 VFX-4 Doublbass 176 VFX-4 Synbass-1 173 VFX-4 Synbass-2 207 VFX-5 Woodflute 156 VFX-5 Chifflute 168 VFX-5 Ocarina 142 VFX-5 Vox-ooohs 414 VFX-5 Vocal-pad 226 VFX-6 Organ-V 1 38 VFX-6 Organ-V 2 51 VFX-6 Organ-V 3 37 VFX-6 Organ-V 4 47 VFX-6 Sawtooth 53 VFX-6 Square 30 VFX-6 Sine-wave 37 VFX-6 Triangle 41 VFX-6 1+2 Harms 26 VFX-6 2Harm saw 36 VFX-6 Fretless 39 VFX-6 Dpno-tine 82 VFX-6 Bubbawave 70 VFX-6 Clav-wave 51 VFX-6 Clav Var 52 VFX-6 Woodwind 52 VFX-6 Wwind Var 71 VFX-6 Pipe-orgn 93 VFX-6 Brass-org 101 VFX-6 Vocal-bel 91 VFX-6 Synth-bel 97 VFX-6 Digi-vox 45 VFX-6 Clarinet 34 VFX-7 Spectral-x 70 VFX-7 Digital-x 50 VFX-7 Vocal-x 87 VFX-7 Doctor-x 73 VFX-7 Inharm-x 80 VFX-7 Synchro-x 44 VFX-7 Omega-x 82 VFX-7 Esqbell-x 42 VFX-7 Formant-x 51 VFX-7 Planet-x 73 VFX-7 Electro-x 44 VFX-7 Pulse 1-x 49 VFX-7 Pulse 2-x 41 VFX-7 Resonant-1 41 VFX-7 Resonant-2 46 VFX-7 Resonant-3 46 VFX-7 resonant-4 44 VFX-8 Woody-hit 55 VFX-8 Woodblock 50 VFX-8 Templ-blk 50 VFX-8 Dinky-hit 51 VFX-8 Toyhammer 46 VFX-8 Agogo Bell 59 VFX-8 Slinkypop 60 VFX-8 Duct-tape 61 VFX-8 Steamdrum 97 VFX-8 Spraycan 80 VFX-8 Anvil-hit 76 VFX-8 Metaldink 80 VFX-8 Vocalperc 93 VFX-8 Kick-drum 56 VFX-8 Snaredrum 61 VFX-9 Bigblast 157 VFX-9 Marimba 75 VFX-9 Kalimba 88 VFX-9 Steeldrum 97 VFX-9 Doorbell 98 VFX-9 Potlid-hit 96 VFX-9 Syn-pluck 62 VFX-9 Plinkhorn 82 VFX-9 Flutedrum 120 VFX-9 Pno-ping 143 VFX-9 Orch-hit 326 VFX-9 Kagong 165 VFX-9 Rack-bell 95 VFX-9 Crash-cym 135 VFX-10 Triang-lp 170 VFX-10 Anvil-lp 152 VFX-10 Clustr-lp 301 VFX-10 Tubular-lp 217 VFX-10 Noise-lp 205 From wri.com!andre Thu Jul 9 09:13:06 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:11 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA17790 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 9 Jul 1992 11:11:37 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 11:11:37 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9207091611.AA01284@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: review SL-12 (1-8 too)(re-post) Thanks for the disk reviews, Scott. It was good reading and better than trying to decipher the cryptic descriptions offered by most trade magazines (trying to appease their advertisers no doubt). I use the EPS-16+ to supply my backup band for a lot of what I do in the standard rock combo vein, so having some good electric bass samples is a godsend for me. I think it's great that Ensoniq keeps upgrading their piano samples as well. To a lot of people, a good piano sound might make the difference in whether or not to purchase this box. It was definitely a catalyst for me! AK From CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu!qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu!mike_allinger Thu Jul 9 09:32:31 1992 Return-Path: <@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu:mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu> Received: from 128.253.1.19 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 09:32 PDT Message-Id: Received: from qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu by CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 09 Jul 92 12:30:41 EDT Date: 9 Jul 92 12:28:56 U From: "Mike Allinger" Subject: pd samples up for grabbs Content-Type: x-text To: eps@reed.edu Return-receipt-to: mike_allinger@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu Subject: pd samples up for grabbs Hey EPSers, I've enclosed a list of samples from my library which I believe to be public domain. If they aren't let me know. They're sorted by disk number. Some are duplicates of what's already on nextweek.reed.edu. What I want to know is what samples most interest the group. I could upload all of them but I'd feel like a disk hog. Those without ftp access I could try ftp-mail (I should learn sometime) but please go easy on me. Disclaimer: I hope the enclosure makes it to everybody. I'm using Quickmail (poor me) and I've never attempted this before. mike a. <<<<<< Attached TEXT file follows >>>>>> Disk# Sound Name Size Type ------------------------------------------------------ ? #23 Hard Piano Instrument 534 piano ? #23 Choir 1 Instrument 531 vocal ANML-1 Cow 209 effect ANML-1 Dog Barking 91 effect ANML-1 Dog Growl 297 effect ANML-1 Dogs 232 effect ANML-1 Pigs 367 effect ANML-1 Rooster Crow 379 effect BASS-1 Bassman 130 bass BASS-1 Electric Bass 255 bass BASS-1 K 5 Bass and Marimba 452 bass BASS-1 Short Acoustic Bass 94 bass BASS-1 Teense Bass 118 bass BRS-1 Brass 22 Octave 158 brass BRS-1 Brass Instrument 534 brass BRS-1 K Trombone 182 brass BRS-1 Kurzweil Short Trombone 55 brass BRS-1 Mute Trumpet 186 brass BRS-1 Stab Brass 277 brass BRS-1 Stab Brass 2 52 brass D50-1 D-50 Choir 348 synthesizer D50-1 D-50 Partials 917 synthesizer D50-2 D-50 JETE 964 synthesizer DRM-2 HR-16 Drums 919 percussion DRM-2 RX-15 Kit 921 percussion DRM-3 626 863 drum DRM-3 626 Short 469 percussion DRM-4 Drums 628 percussion DRM-4 Intruder Vel 192 percussion DRM-4 Mama Drums 460 percussion DRM-4 Drum Waves 131 synthesizer DRM-5 Indian Percussion 817 percussion DW-1 DW Strings 1 246 strings DW-1 DW 1 Instrument 152 synthesizer DW-1 DW Lead 1 195 synthesizer DW-1 DW Lead Instrument 175 synthesizer DW-1 Lead Instrument 167 synthesizer DX7-1 Metal Bass 36 bass DX7-1 Slap Bass 38 bass DX7-1 FM Guitar 54 guitar DX7-1 Jazz Guitar 68 guitar DX7-1 Clav 94 keyboard DX7-1 Bell 73 percussion DX7-1 Log Drum 122 percussion DX7-1 Tube Bell 59 percussion DX7-1 Digital Piano 114 piano DX7-1 Metal Piano 30 piano DX7-1 Toy Piano 141 piano DX7-1 Digital Synth 127 synthesizer DX7-1 Fat Synth 258 synthesizer DX7-1 Vox 253 synthesizer DX7-1 Dirt Sax 106 woodwind DX7-2 Bass; DX-7 185 bass DX7-2 Kalimba 426 percussion DX7-2 Marimba 32 percussion DX7-2 Pluckwood 24 percussion DX7-2 Wurlitzer 41 piano DX7-2 Arctic 26 synthesizer DX7-2 Cirrus 219 synthesizer DX7-2 Frlite 48 synthesizer DX7-2 Fuzz 62 synthesizer DX7-2 Glass 51 synthesizer DX7-2 Harmosynth 27 synthesizer DX7-2 Metalpipe 57 synthesizer DX7-2 Mute 46 synthesizer DX7-2 Mystic 15 synthesizer DX7-2 Perc Synth 115 synthesizer DX7-2 FM Sax 78 woodwind DX7-3 Brass Instrument 529 brass DX7-3 DX-7 II Brass 378 brass DX7-3 DX-7 II String 361 strings EFF-1 Close D Door 264 effect EFF-1 Driving By 529 effect EFF-1 Right By 264 effect EFF-1 Squealing 116 effect EFF-2 Bowling 813 effect EFF-2 Monster Roar 339 effect EFF-2 Roars 103 effect EFF-2 Rover 153 effect EFF-3 Short Trumpet 83 brass EFF-3 Bottle 1 294 effect EFF-3 Bottle 2 191 effect EFF-3 Crickets 845 effect EFF-3 Genesis Disk 988 effect EFF-4 Lion 326 effect EFF-4 Rain Forest 998 effect EFF-5 Amy 150 effect EFF-5 Amy 2 199 effect EFF-5 Ralph 107 effect EFF-5 Splash 490 effect EFF-5 Toilet Flush 468 effect EFF-6 Shahachi 327 effect ESD-10 Electric Bass 262 bass ESD-10 Upright Bass 196 bass ESD-10 Pop Horn Section 527 brass ESD-10 Acoustic Guitar 819 guitar ESD-10 Dream Guitar 963 guitar ESD-10 DX-7 Guitar 54 guitar ESD-10 Electric Guitar 993 guitar ESD-10 Kalimba 101 percussion ESD-10 Power Drums 1006 percussion ESD-10 Grand Piano 948 piano ESD-10 Epic Strings 980 strings ESD-10 Ecstacy 624 synthesizer ESD-10 Moonlight 595 synthesizer ESD-10 Celestial Voice 495 vocal ESD-10 Celestial Voice 495 vocal ESD-10 Tenor Sax 908 woodwind ESD-54 D4 Bass 251 bass ESD-7 Harpsichord 710 keyboard GTR-1 Git A Liddle 597 guitar GTR-1 Guitar Lead 915 guitar GTR-2 McNeils Guitar 1465 guitar GTR-3 Git Smaller 440 guitar GTR-3 Nylon Guitar Instrument 534 guitar GTR-3 Rock Guitar Instrument 529 guitar GTR-3 Stratocaster 16 guitar GTR-4 Dobro Riffs 1108 guitar K1M-1 Bass; K1-M 34 bass K1M-1 Trumpet 70 brass K1M-1 Guitar; K1-M 94 guitar K1M-1 Strings 93 strings K1M-1 Arrangement 924 synthesizer K1M-1 Heavy Pad 55 synthesizer K1M-1 Jobson Pad 67 synthesizer K1M-1 Ahh 97 vocal K5-1 Marimba 105 percussion K5-1 Metal Xylophone 160 percussion K5-1 Vibes 96 percussion K5-1 Wood Xylophone 107 percussion K5-1 K-5 381 synthesizer K5-1 K-5-2 221 synthesizer KBD-1 B-3 Organ 2 13 keyboard KBD-1 Jazz Organ 46 keyboard KBD-1 Kurzweil Organ 276 keyboard KBD-1 Orgamed Instrument 531 keyboard KBD-1 Pipe Organ Instrument 531 keyboard KBD-1 TX 6 Tease 37 keyboard KBD-2 Farfisa 569 keyboard KBD-2 RMI Piano 720 keyboard KURZ-1 Classic Horn 659 brass KURZ-1 1000 PX Strings 810 strings M1S-1 Pickbass 210 bass M1S-1 Trumpet 42 brass M1S-1 12 String Guitar 334 guitar M1S-1 Guitar; M1 88 guitar M1S-1 Chorus 112 synthesizer M1S-1 Lore 193 synthesizer M1S-1 Nimbus 280 synthesizer M1S-1 Solo Sax 70 woodwind M1S-2 Flugal 78 brass M1S-2 Mute Trumpet; M1 66 brass M1S-2 Pop 35 synthesizer M1S-2 Powerplay 191 synthesizer M1S-2 Voicewave 245 synthesizer M1S-2 Zephyr 664 synthesizer M1S-2 Double Reed 86 woodwind M1S-2 Tenor Sax; M1 177 woodwind M1S-3 M1 Pyramids 369 synthesizer PD-1 Rikibass 322 bass PD-1 Bretts Bash 1241 percussion PD-10 Clarinet 291 woodwind PD-10 Oboe 875 woodwind PD-101 Clav Instrument 534 keyboard PD-101 Steve Flute 310 woodwind PD-12 Solo Strings(high) 1301 strings PD-13 Solo Strings(low) 479 strings PD-14 Male Voices(low) 863 vocal PD-15 Thunder 1 469 effect PD-15 DSP 1 185 synthesizer PD-15 DSP 2 397 synthesizer PD-15 DSP 3 196 synthesizer PD-15 DSP 4 109 synthesizer PD-15 DSP 5 172 synthesizer PD-16 B-3 1379 keyboard PD-17 Male Voices(high) 767 vocal PD-18 Stacked Perc. 721 percussion PD-18 Stacked Perc. 2 543 percussion PD-20 Ricks Drums 979 percussion PD-22 Soft Brass 890 brass PD-23 Horn (Kurzweil) 916 brass PD-5 Sarod 1416 synthesizer PD-5 Synclavier 1 281 synthesizer PD-5 Synclavier 2 574 synthesizer PD-5 Synclavier 3 20 synthesizer PD-5 Synclavier 4 194 synthesizer PD-5 Synclavier 5 155 synthesizer PD-5 Synclavier 6 20 synthesizer PD-7 English Horn 683 brass PD-8 Orch Hits 424 effect PD-8 Chimes 532 percussion PD-8 Timpani 324 percussion PD-9 African Perc. 457 percussion PD-9 Conga, Tumba & Quinto 953 percussion PNO-1 Digital Piano 2 80 piano PNO-1 Piano + 1 Instrument 524 piano PNO-1 Piano Lec 181 piano PNO-1 Pop Piano 569 piano PNO-1 Dig. Don 62 synthesizer PNO-2 Honkey Piano Instrument 534 piano PNO-2 Lo Piano Instrument 524 piano PNO-3 Digital Electric Piano 80 piano PNO-3 Takahashi EP 267 synthesizer STR-1 Epic Strings 980 strings STR-1 Strings Instrument 534 strings STR-2 New Strings 1244 strings SYN-1 40 Voice VS 911 synthesizer SYN-1 Basket 125 synthesizer SYN-1 EPS Int. Wave 59 synthesizer SYN-1 EPS Squarz 4 synthesizer SYN-1 Synth Harm 4 synthesizer SYN-2 Prophet 07 399 synthesizer SYN-2 Prophet 36 & 79 336 synthesizer SYN-2 Prophet 74 780 synthesizer SYN-3 Prophet 00 706 synthesizer SYN-3 Prophet 02 591 synthesizer SYN-3 Prophet 45 245 synthesizer SYN-4 Memory Moog Instrument 534 synthesizer SYN-4 Mini Moog Instrument 534 synthesizer SYN-4 Moog 214 synthesizer SYN-4 Multisynth 241 synthesizer SYN-5 Caliope 21 keyboard SYN-5 Lead Vibe 40 keyboard SYN-5 B+P 572 synthesizer SYN-5 Final Flight 349 synthesizer SYN-5 Nuke Bs+Org 27 synthesizer SYN-6 Dig Ana Synth 127 synthesizer SYN-6 Future Pad 303 synthesizer SYN-6 Ghost Tone 190 synthesizer SYN-6 Poly Synth 266 synthesizer SYN-6 Soundtrack 360 synthesizer SYN-6 Wall O Sound 229 synthesizer SYN-7 8 MIDI Instruments 16 MIDI SYN-7 Organ Wave 14 synthesizer SYN-7 Pulse Lead Wave 10 synthesizer SYN-7 Sawtooth Wave 10 synthesizer SYN-7 Square Wave 18 synthesizer SYN-7 Synt Harp Wave 49 synthesizer SYN-7 Synth Bass Wave 18 synthesizer SYN-7 Synth Harm 4 synthesizer SYN-7 Synth String Wave 27 synthesizer VFX-1 Strings 459 VFX-1 Pizzi-str 79 VFX-1 Grand-pno 307 VFX-1 Piano Var 198 VFX-1 Digipiano 295 VFX-1 Clavpiano 209 VFX-10 Triang-lp 170 VFX-10 Anvil-lp 152 VFX-10 Clustr-lp 301 VFX-10 Tubular-lp 217 VFX-10 Noise-lp 205 VFX-2 Acous-gtr 268 VFX-2 Guit Var1 99 VFX-2 Guit Var2 478 VFX-2 Gtr-harmo 33 VFX-2 El-guitar 78 VFX-2 Pluck-gtr 66 VFX-2 Chukka-gt 71 VFX-2 Crunch-gt 171 VFX-2 Crunch-lp 132 VFX-3 Uni-brass 344 VFX-3 Trumpet 173 VFX-3 Trump Var 103 VFX-3 Frenchorn 128 VFX-3 Fhorn Var 308 VFX-3 saxaphone 173 VFX-3 Sax Var-1 249 VFX-4 Sax Var-2 194 VFX-4 Pick-bass 168 VFX-4 Pop-bass 121 VFX-4 Pluck-bass 183 VFX-4 Doublbass 176 VFX-4 Synbass-1 173 VFX-4 Synbass-2 207 VFX-5 Woodflute 156 VFX-5 Chifflute 168 VFX-5 Ocarina 142 VFX-5 Vox-ooohs 414 VFX-5 Vocal-pad 226 VFX-6 Organ-V 1 38 VFX-6 Organ-V 2 51 VFX-6 Organ-V 3 37 VFX-6 Organ-V 4 47 VFX-6 Sawtooth 53 VFX-6 Square 30 VFX-6 Sine-wave 37 VFX-6 Triangle 41 VFX-6 1+2 Harms 26 VFX-6 2Harm saw 36 VFX-6 Fretless 39 VFX-6 Dpno-tine 82 VFX-6 Bubbawave 70 VFX-6 Clav-wave 51 VFX-6 Clav Var 52 VFX-6 Woodwind 52 VFX-6 Wwind Var 71 VFX-6 Pipe-orgn 93 VFX-6 Brass-org 101 VFX-6 Vocal-bel 91 VFX-6 Synth-bel 97 VFX-6 Digi-vox 45 VFX-6 Clarinet 34 VFX-7 Spectral-x 70 VFX-7 Digital-x 50 VFX-7 Vocal-x 87 VFX-7 Doctor-x 73 VFX-7 Inharm-x 80 VFX-7 Synchro-x 44 VFX-7 Omega-x 82 VFX-7 Esqbell-x 42 VFX-7 Formant-x 51 VFX-7 Planet-x 73 VFX-7 Electro-x 44 VFX-7 Pulse 1-x 49 VFX-7 Pulse 2-x 41 VFX-7 Resonant-1 41 VFX-7 Resonant-2 46 VFX-7 Resonant-3 46 VFX-7 resonant-4 44 VFX-8 Woody-hit 55 VFX-8 Woodblock 50 VFX-8 Templ-blk 50 VFX-8 Dinky-hit 51 VFX-8 Toyhammer 46 VFX-8 Agogo Bell 59 VFX-8 Slinkypop 60 VFX-8 Duct-tape 61 VFX-8 Steamdrum 97 VFX-8 Spraycan 80 VFX-8 Anvil-hit 76 VFX-8 Metaldink 80 VFX-8 Vocalperc 93 VFX-8 Kick-drum 56 VFX-8 Snaredrum 61 VFX-9 Bigblast 157 VFX-9 Marimba 75 VFX-9 Kalimba 88 VFX-9 Steeldrum 97 VFX-9 Doorbell 98 VFX-9 Potlid-hit 96 VFX-9 Syn-pluck 62 VFX-9 Plinkhorn 82 VFX-9 Flutedrum 120 VFX-9 Pno-ping 143 VFX-9 Orch-hit 326 VFX-9 Kagong 165 VFX-9 Rack-bell 95 VFX-9 Crash-cym 135 VOX-1 Large Choir 892 vocal VZ1-1 Marimba Instrument 68 percussion VZ1-1 Harp 98 plucked VZ1-1 Air Instrument 159 synthesizer VZ1-1 Lyle Instrument 199 synthesizer VZ1-1 Med Inst 167 synthesizer VZ1-1 VZ Fluwinst 149 synthesizer VZ1-1 VZ Flute 177 woodwind VZ1-2 Electric Brass ST 225 brass VZ1-2 VZ Orchestra bell 193 percussion VZ1-2 BRZ Instrument 273 synthesizer VZ1-2 VZ BRZ Pluck 242 synthesizer VZ1-2 Electric Flute Z 201 woodwind VZ1-2 Recorder VZ 163 woodwind VZ1-2 Sax Lead VZ 200 woodwind VZ1-3 Analog Lead VZ 203 synthesizer VZ1-3 Fat Analog VZ 202 synthesizer VZ1-3 Pastoral VZ-1 187 synthesizer VZ1-3 VZ Rock Lead 139 synthesizer WDW-1 Low Pipe 311 keyboard WDW-1 Fagen Tenor 446 woodwind WDW-1 Flute 2 174 woodwind WDW-1 Legato Flute 378 woodwind From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Thu Jul 9 10:32:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 10:31 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA11980; Fri, 10 Jul 1992 02:17:51 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA17824; Fri, 10 Jul 1992 00:17:32 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa29708; 9 Jul 92 20:59 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <0br3m0g@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 09 Jul 92 02:41 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: Re: Trumpet Samples To: nlm@acd4.acd.com Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au Cc: eps@reed.edu X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1992 02:32:12 MET In <9207081923.AA11262@IEDV5.acd.com>, you write: > > Greetings, > > The Proteus has a sample called "velocity falls". This is a trumpet sample > in whcich if you play a note with sufficient velocity the sample terminates > with a rapidly dropping pitch and (I think) darkening tone quality. > > 1) Has anybody out there tried to duplicate this effect with envelopes? > > 2) Does anyone know of a source of an EPS sample producing this effect? > > 3) Do you have a "killer" trumpet sample you'd like to recommend? > > Hi, As it happens I have actually borrowed the Proteus and sampled the velocity falls and the section falls on the EPS 16+. Do you have Gary Gieblers EDM, if so Ill send them to you in the .EFE format. See ya,. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From wri.com!andre Thu Jul 9 10:57:39 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 10:55 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA23548 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 9 Jul 1992 12:55:50 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 12:55:50 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9207091755.AA01322@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Data Entry Hassles I currently use my EPS 16+ without a PC, and find it most excruciatingly tiresome to have to scroll through the alphabet just to enter text, especially when building lots of sequences. I'm wondering if a good solution exists or can be made to exist (I don't have the programming chops to do it): 1) Either a little app that can make the keyboard enter letters and numbers when in a file or sequence naming mode or 2) A midi box that would transmit the output of a standard keyboard of some make (or any other cheap keypad device), without having to set up a PC. Do either of these options seem feasible? Or are there some inherent technical barriers? I could see option 2 being useful for any synth, if it's possible... AK From descartes.waterloo.edu!undergrad.math.waterloo.edu!rjfennem Thu Jul 9 11:17:05 1992 Return-Path: <@descartes.waterloo.edu:rjfennem@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> Received: from 129.97.140.253 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 11:14 PDT Received: by descartes.waterloo.edu id <246497>; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 14:14:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Data Entry Hassles ... From: "Ryan J. Fennema" To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1992 14:13:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9207091755.AA01322@rurutu.wri.com>; from "andre@wri.com" at Jul 9, 92 1:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Message-Id: <92Jul9.141411edt.246497@descartes.waterloo.edu> Andre writes ... > I currently use my EPS 16+ without a PC, and find it most > excruciatingly tiresome to have to scroll through the alphabet just > to enter text, especially when building lots of sequences. I'm > wondering if a good solution exists or can be made to exist (I don't > have the programming chops to do it): > > 1) Either a little app that can make the keyboard enter letters and > numbers when in a file or sequence naming mode > I would be pleased if this were included in OS 1.2. What think ye, Scott? Will we ever see something like this? Anxiously awaiting, Ryan. From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Thu Jul 9 15:28:22 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 15:26 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27651; Thu, 9 Jul 1992 16:25:52 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1992 16:25:52 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9207092225.AA27651@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: uncompress for dos? To save double FTP'ing has anyone ever seen uncompress for a DOS machine? If not, which one of you UNIX whizzes wants to port? :> Ed Roth From sdacs.UCSD.EDU!john Thu Jul 9 16:18:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.239.1.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 16:17 PDT Received: from sdacs.ucsd.edu by ucsd.edu; id AA16571 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Thu, 9 Jul 92 16:17:42 -0700 for eps@reed.edu Received: by sdacs.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDGENERIC2) id AA15456 for delivery to eps@reed.edu; Thu, 9 Jul 92 16:17:40 PDT Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 16:17:40 PDT From: john@sdacs.UCSD.EDU (John Boyd) Message-Id: <9207092317.AA15456@sdacs.UCSD.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: uncompress for DOS I was just browsing through nextweek@reed when I got this request. I just downloaded this compress/uncompress/zcat for DOS yesterday off of wuarchive. I just put it in incoming for all of you. Enjoy... Its called comp430d.zip... John From sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU!s057 Thu Jul 9 17:19:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 17:19 PDT Received: from sand.sics.bu.oz (via bunyip) by munnari.oz.au with SunIII (5.83--+1.3.1+0.50) id AA25328; Fri, 10 Jul 1992 10:19:10 +1000 (from s057@sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU) Received: from sand by surf.sics.bu.oz.au (5.65b/Ultrix-32-V3.0) with SMTP id AA25964; Fri, 10 Jul 92 10:20:23 +1000 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA25106; Fri, 10 Jul 92 10:21:14 EST Date: Fri, 10 Jul 92 10:21:14 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9207100021.AA25106@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS Wish List ... OK, well after hearing Scott's news about the possible new sampling machine that just might come into being one day, I decided to compile a dream list of what I would like to see in it. A lot of these may be based on personal preference and/or lack of knowledge of some function the machine already does. Also, more realistically, it is likely to triple the price of the machine, but anyway here's my 0.02c worth ... The usual requests ... 1 32 note polyphony 2 1.44 Mb drive or bigger 3 expandable to about 32Mb onboard 4 stereo sampling 5 defrag and other hard disk utilities 6 internal hard drive ability some of mine ... 7 Fix up whatever it is that causes notes to hang when an instrument finishes loading (is this just mine???) 8 Bigger display that can hold more info - perhaps a dot matrix if it was clear enough. 9 FX routed out through the other outputs, not just the stereo outs. 10 Digital ins and outs 11 possible cannon input for mic (saw this on another sampler - just an idea) 12 Larger Flashram option 13 More Realtime FX control 14 System Exclusive dumps - or whatever it is that allows you to dump samples out over MIDI (maybe it's possible already, I dunno). 15 More and better resample with FX options 16 Less time shuffling data, and processing it. 17 Support for a monitor, I think the Roland W30 does this??? 18 Load a Bank with an external program change 19 True 16 track 16 midi channel sequencer with up to or more :-) than 16 instruments in memory at one time. (Well if we get 32 Mb onboard, who wants to be stuck with 8 instruments at a time???) Personally I would also like to see Ensoniq make the keyboard look a bit less boxy too. More along the lines of a Korg or Roland. I would also like a better feel to the keyboard and possibly (impossible wish), 76 keys. That's just personal preference though. If Ensoniq is still bored after all this they could add ... 20 Auto arrpegiator, pre-set rhythms, CASIO chord function, a selection of 15 classic folk songs built into ROM, little rubber pads for playing drums on, little speakers so you can hear what you are playing, fully sampled help manual online, scoring ability, (don't forget a built in laser printer for the output either), and control of a 30 can light show, (lights might have to come as an optional extra). I also happen to know that Scott wants his to make coffee ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Gregory Gold Coast Queensland Australia ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu!bsanders Thu Jul 9 20:21:22 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.174.5.58 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 9 Jul 92 20:21 PDT Received: from mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu by garcon.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA04340 (5.65d+/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 9 Jul 1992 22:21:06 -0500 Received: by mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA09965; Thu, 9 Jul 92 22:20:42 GMT-0600 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 22:20:42 GMT-0600 From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) Message-Id: <9207100420.AA09965@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: RE: EPS/Sampler Wish List Please allow me to add my pipe dreams to this list. These mods may be several generations away, but I bet we'll see 'em before 1999: 1) 100-500 Mflop processor (currently available off-the-shelf). Would allow for massive real-time signal processing, such as pitch transposition via FFT analysis coupled with real-time resynthesis [btw: This is the scheme, more or less, that is being employed by Sony for their new Mini-Disc CD format to achieve like 100/1 data compression] This would also increase polyphony considerably (64 notes wouldn't be a problem, each with its own effects) 2) 1 Gbyte Non-volatile static RAM (Currently under development, according to an unsubstantiated rumor, and projected for mass-production in 2 years) 3) Optical serial I/O with complete system access (exclusive of MIDI) 4) Motherboard/backplane design for greater expandability. This would eliminate ribbon cables connecting non-standardized modules crammed into awkward spaces and would replace 'em with a standardized bus. We could use hardcards! Do you want 32 outputs? Plug in four 8-output cards! Wow! 5) Multi-megabaud serial optical interface for multiple generic expressive controllers (finally, a sax that sounds like a SAX, because you have a wind controller that sends 100 samples/second of embouchure information) 6) Keyboard controller with mechanical feedback, programmable per sample. (Systems to accomplish this feat are currently under development.) Imagine, feeling the tines plucking your virtual harpsichord strings. 7) Physically-based synthesis. Sounds are created using mathematical models of real instruments. (Sure beats the heck out of stringing 'attack' and 'sustain samples together.) These ideas have been compiled from various sources, but most of them are based upon existing technology. I believe our EPS's will change radically over the next several years, due to rapid technological advancement. For a glimpse of what the future may hold, have a look at the Kurzweil K2000 (Well, at least, the*insides* are a glimpse of what the future may hold :-) If any of you would like to continue this thread privately, I would greatly enjoy it. Thanx for the bandwidth. Barry Sanders bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu From fscott.sco.COM!sco.sco.COM!jondr Fri Jul 10 03:48:34 1992 Return-Path: <@fscott.sco.COM:jondr@sco.sco.COM> Received: from 137.39.1.5 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 10 Jul 92 03:48 PDT Received: from sco.sco.COM by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA01908; Fri, 10 Jul 92 06:47:33 -0400 Received: from fscott.sco.COM by sco.sco.COM id aa16560; Thu, 9 Jul 92 10:58:00 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: semi-successful From: Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic Sender: jondr@sco.COM Reply-To: jondr@sco.COM Date: Thu, 9 Jul 92 10:59:11 PDT Message-Id: <9207091059.aa19852@fscott.sco.COM> i managed to download scott fisher's "rl tek perc-1" disk from the archive after much thrashing and disk swapping. excellent sounds scott! i'd love to return the favor by uploading some of my pet sounds, but it's an incredible hassle, verging on the impossible, due to the limitations of our systems. if anybody knows how to read or write ten sector disks under SCO UNIX, let me know!! (the kernel apparently only has drivers to support 9, 15 and 18 sector disks, and trying to fool it by running epsread or epswrite under dos merge doesn't work.) Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ) uunet!sco!jondr jondr@sco.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adapt all spontaneous maneuvers to your advantage. From comm.mot.com!chucksi Fri Jul 10 06:56:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 10 Jul 92 06:55 PDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00879; Fri, 10 Jul 92 08:54:21 CDT Received: from re66 (re66.stc.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22634; Fri, 10 Jul 92 09:04:54 CDT Message-Id: <9207101404.AA22634@comm.mot.com> Received: by re66 id ; Fri, 10 Jul 1992 08:54:19 -0500 From: chucksi@comm.mot.com (Chuckster) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 08:54:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (2.0.5 12/1/91) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Fading out I'm sure this is documented somewhere, but I can't find it. Does anyone know how you fade a song in the EPS out (volume wise)? Do you have to do it within the sequences? Chuck From wri.com!andre Fri Jul 10 09:34:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 10 Jul 92 09:33 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA29025 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 10 Jul 1992 11:33:44 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 92 11:33:43 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9207101633.AA02589@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Track/sequence copying Here's another EPS sequencer question about something that is barely documented. I have a song assembled out of sequences and song tracks. The sequences make up a bass part on one track. I need to double the sound, to fatten it and enhance the attack, so I want to stack another bass sound