From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Sun May 24 09:05:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 09:04 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA11237; Mon, 25 May 1992 02:04:38 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA19826; Mon, 25 May 1992 00:04:37 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa24357; Sun, 24 May 92 20:45:46 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <0boqgau@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 24 May 92 03:01 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: O.S. version 1.20 To: eps@reed.edu Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Sat, 23 May 1992 22:51:46 MET Hey Gang, Did you read the letter in Transoniq Hacker, the one just before Scotts (Hi Scott :-). Ensoniqs reply to a letter: Quote: "We recognize the advantages of loading a Bank via MIDI and have implemented it in O.S. version 1.20, which is currently in Beta test. It is working fine and we expect to release it in a few weeks" end Quote. A few weeks.... yippppeeeee! Ok who ever gets it onto altosax first gets a free copy of Perry Como singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" YES I cant wait!!! See ya, -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From basser.cs.su.oz.au!paul Sun May 24 19:01:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.8.208 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 19:00 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 11:17:48 +1000 From: paul@cs.su.oz.au (Paul Craig Tyler) Subject: Re: DSHD Disks Revealed (again) To: eps@reed.edu > From boland%cps.msu.edu@metro.ucc.su.oz.au Tue May 19 23:48:24 1992 > Hi All! > > Well... let me tell ya... DON'T USE HD FLOPPIES ON YOUR EPS 16+!!!! > > After all the discussion, I finally decided to use one of my DSHD Floppies > in the EPS 16+. Guess What??? It wouldn't even format it!! I received > the following error message from my 16+, "Disk Data Corrupted" or something > to that effect. So I stuck a different brand new one in thinking something > may have been wrong with the first disk... Same thing. Just for > documentation purposes I used 3M HD Formatted 1.44MB disks. I believe these > disks are preformatted for the IBM; however, I would expect the EPS to > simply reformat them and I don't think this "preformatting" was the cause > of me not being able to use DSHD Floppies... > > Thanks to all that replied! > > boland@cps.msu.edu I decided to have a go at this ( having had a little experience with macs and IBMs with HD disks ) and could get it to work. You must cover over the hole in the top left of the disk. (Compare it to a normal disk and you'll notice an extra hole.) Use some type of sticky tape and cover over both sides of the top left hole. Be careful, as you don't want this tape to come off while the disk is in the drive. I tried to format a HD disk without the tape on and it wouldn't work giving the error message "Disk Data Corrupted". The same disk did formatt after I had taped over the hole. So it appears you MUST have this hole taped for an EPS16+ drive. The tape tricks the disk drive into thinking it isn't a HD disk and it treats it like any other disk. This in itself is interesting, it seems to lead to the conclusion that the drive is capable of handling HD disks but that the operating system isn't. (HD disks would give us and extra 1200 blocks per disk.) I have now used two HD disks to download from altosax and had no trouble reading them on the EPS. So it is possible to use them, but I repeat my warning, be careful with what you tape over the hole as it can come unstuck and you don't want that to happen while it is in the drive. Paul From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Sun May 24 19:39:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 19:38 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA01902; Mon, 25 May 1992 10:37:48 +0800 Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 10:37:48 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205250237.AA01902@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: More at altosax... Another set of fine percussion samples from Scott's sample library. This disk contains: Instrument Blocks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ PSS-280 390 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That's it :-) It should keep thosee in the 2400 baud world happy as the whole disk is only 111k after compression. Let me tell you about these illustrious samples.... My friend borrowed a Yamaha PSS-280 personal keyboard thingie, you know the sort that are about the size of a box of tissues (well a bit flatter..) and they have all these 12 bit PCM percussion sounds and the usual 2 operator FM stuff for the melodies. I decided I'd like to be able to turn my EPS into a $60 keyboard from time to time so I sampled the percussion and most of the sounds. The sounds will be released later. As the PSS-280 does not let you manually trigger the percussion I had to set off the percussion "rythms" (rock1, rock2, rhumba...you get the picture) and play them back at the slowest tempo (to put space between samples) and extract them by editing a mega sample on the EPS. Well this disk is the result. It conforms to the Ensoniq drum map...I hope you enjouy it...the samples that amazed the experts :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Sun May 24 22:00:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 21:59 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA02208; Mon, 25 May 1992 12:58:50 +0800 Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 12:58:50 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205250458.AA02208@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: TH #83 Steve's post from TH reminded me... Jerry Kovarskys "Errata" article in TH #83??? Did anyone else (besides me) think that Jerry appeared a little heavy handed in his dealing with the TH writers? It appeared to me Jerry has no right to "expect" that everything in TH sould be 100% pro-ensoniq and/or correct in its technical detail. If Ensoniq want to have more say about the political/or otherwise correctness of TH articles they should put TH back in the BOX. Lofflink apparently has a letter in response coming up in Issue #85 I know the "Interface" is a place for user feedback...and we don't want to fill it with tit-for-tat arguments over trivia, but, doesn't anyone out there have anything to say??? I'm reluctant to say anything as I have had my fair share of TH space in the past. Those of you who saw my letter in #83...I actually don't think much of the Australian "distribution networrk" but, I apparently upset John McCubbery (who has been sort of helpful now and then) and so I thought I'd better do a bit of "crawling" as this is a 1 importer country and John is it...if you see what I mean :-) Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- background to it... From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Sun May 24 22:49:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 22:48 PDT Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA09217 Mon, 25 May 1992 15:48:35 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA15091; Mon, 25 May 92 15:48:22 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9205250548.15091@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: 16+'s FX To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 25 May 92 15:48:22 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi. It would appear that there is a bug in the effects on the 16+. One is able to change effect parameters (such as leslie speed) and record the changes via MIDI, but then the EPS does not respond when the changes are replayed by the sequencer. This has been told to me by a friend (former programmer, turned composer) who knows how to make things work in general, but is beaten by this one. Does anyone else know this bug and what to do about it - It is a pretty serious state of affairs if the lovely effects on the EPS cannot be controled by the sequencer. Thomas -- "In our world", said Eustace, "the sun is a huge ball of flaming gas." "Even in your world", the man replied, "that is not what it is, but only what "it is made of." Motto : AD DEUM ET VINUM email: smail: conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au Thomas Conway conway@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au 34 Ramsay Ave East Kew 3102 (Australia) From niski Sun May 24 23:27:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 23:26 PDT Message-Id: To: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu) Subject: Re: NeXT access? cc: eps@reed.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 May 92 14:35:27 CDT." <9205191935.AA10828@stc.comm.mot.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 92 23:26:14 -0700 From: Joe Niski > Hey Joe, > I have a NeXTstation at home...is there a way for me to > down/up load stuff from altosax.reed.edu? > I noticed the stuff is archived on just such a machine.... > Chuck Siu > i think there's a free program called GatorFTP available at the usual places (i'm don't now where to look for good NeXT ftp sites) - it uses a browser-like interface for ftp-ing files. Joe From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Sun May 24 23:36:33 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 23:35 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA02450; Mon, 25 May 1992 14:34:31 +0800 Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 14:34:31 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205250634.AA02450@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: PSS 280 samples... Just another thought..they now are "rare" PSS-280 samples as the machine I used to sample the sounds off was stolen (house break-in) about 2 months after I sampled them :-) Scott _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Mon May 25 00:00:42 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 24 May 92 23:59 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA02581; Mon, 25 May 1992 14:58:44 +0800 Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 14:58:44 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205250658.AA02581@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: List Size. Joe Niski informs me that the eps@reed.edu mailing list is now up to .... 112 Men women and children. ....111 remembering I am an AI program Ensoniq has planted in OZ. Looks like a healthy size...how come I don't see 112 posts every day? Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Mon May 25 01:16:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 25 May 92 01:15 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA02883; Mon, 25 May 1992 16:14:17 +0800 Date: Mon, 25 May 1992 16:14:17 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205250814.AA02883@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: TecPerc returns... Slackers :-) I sent this disk out to about 26 of you and none of you could be bothered to upload it to the site!!! :-) Anyhow, it's there again now... Greetings...here is the previous ill-fated (in that it dissapeared) Electronic percussion sounds that make Kraftwerk what they are :-) Contents Instrument Blocks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RL TEK-PERC 1 686 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The sounds reside on the white keys only. Starting at the lowest C goung up for about 3 octaves with a new sound on each key. Kraftwerk and Techno-house people will enjoy this set. They do not conform to the Ensoniq drum map...you may like to substitute them for a regular percussion instrument and see what happens. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Mon May 25 06:52:01 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 25 May 92 06:50 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #041B1) id <01GKF9TKQO688Y4X14@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Mon, 25 May 1992 09:51:01 EDT Date: 25 May 1992 09:51:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: Why there are < 112 postings To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GKF9TKR7GY8Y4X14@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > From: "scott@psy.uwa.oz.au" 25-MAY-1992 03:22:54.69 > Subj: List Size. > > ...how come I don't see 112 posts every day? Lots of reasons (cue the Venn diagram): - Some of us are lazy - Some of us are shy - Some of us don't have the time to contribute, but still love to stay 'caught up' - Some of us, even when we have the time, are waiting until we have something to contribute before we post anything... ...But don't despair. One implication is that there are at least 111 people who like reading what Scott writes. Seriously, this list is to EPS users what the Hacker was for Mirage owners (before it was cluttered up by helping out the rest of us :-) And, I promise, I will post *something* (even if it's a how-to article) each month. This one counts for May. -Tom Williams From mentor.cc.purdue.edu!greenejl Mon May 25 11:59:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.210.10.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 25 May 92 11:58 PDT Received: by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA27554; Mon, 25 May 92 13:58:52 -0500 From: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Message-Id: <9205251858.AA27554@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Sequencer and more? To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 25 May 92 13:58:52 EST Hi all! For those with a PC clone, windows 3.1 (or 3.0 with MME), and a MIDI setup: I have place in incoming a shareware package called winjammer. It looks very nice, easy to use, and quite capable. I don't have a MIDI setup, so I can't fully see if the program is worth what it asks ($50). I will be getting a MIDI setup eventually, though. It also comes with a second program which plays .MID and .ROL files in the background while you do other work (in windows). I request that someone who can use it, PLEASE review it for me. I'm not even sure of all the features it has (of course, I've been busy studying for my last class before I graduate). THANK YOU!, Jon Greene From mentor.cc.purdue.edu!greenejl Mon May 25 18:58:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.210.10.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 25 May 92 18:57 PDT Received: by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA19209; Mon, 25 May 92 20:57:30 -0500 From: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Message-Id: <9205260157.AA19209@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Neat Sequencer and more? To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 25 May 92 20:57:30 EST Hi all! For people with PC compat, windows 3.1 (or 3.0 with MME), and MIDI setup: I put a Shareware program in incoming called WinJammer. It looks like a really capable, easy-to-use sequencer and more. I don't have a MIDI setup, so I would like to request that someone who does PLEASE review this program for me (and the group). THANKS!, Jon Greene From mentor.cc.purdue.edu!greenejl Mon May 25 22:13:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.210.10.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 25 May 92 22:11 PDT Received: by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA02091; Tue, 26 May 92 00:11:56 -0500 From: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Message-Id: <9205260511.AA02091@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Hello?? To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS Mailing List) Date: Tue, 26 May 92 0:11:56 EST Cc: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Hi all? Is anyone getting my messages (I sent 2 about WinJammer I put on altosax)? I don't seem to be getting them from the list. If you get this message,(and the other 2) please say so. I apologize for this and the last message. The second message was a re-hash of the first. This is just to see if I and others get it. Thanks!, Jon Greene From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Mon May 25 23:21:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 25 May 92 23:20 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA04247; Tue, 26 May 1992 14:19:51 +0800 Date: Tue, 26 May 1992 14:19:51 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205260619.AA04247@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Test.. Just a test...I don't seem to be getting messages I have been posting or any eps@reed stuff for that matter. I ftp to reed and notice some mail from John (in the latest file) having the same problem...apologies for the 112 mailboxes I just polluted :-) Scott. From mentor.cc.purdue.edu!greenejl Mon May 25 23:51:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.210.10.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 25 May 92 23:50 PDT Received: by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA16365; Tue, 26 May 92 01:50:10 -0500 From: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Message-Id: <9205260650.AA16365@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Re: Hello?? - thanks for reply To: niski@reed.edu (Joe Niski) Date: Tue, 26 May 92 1:50:10 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS Mailing List) In-Reply-To: ; from "Joe Niski" at May 25, 92 10:39 pm > > > hi Jon: > > i saw all your messages - they got here,, and apparently to the rest > of the list, just fine. Not sre why there not getting to you. > > Joe > Thanks for responding! I don't know why either. Has anything happend since Saturday? The last big thing I heard was PD was putting all his samples on altosax. I wonder how the next version of epsread and epswrite are going..... Thanks, Jon From ads.com!pdel Tue May 26 00:49:34 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 00:48 PDT Received: from bert.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA00503; Tue, 26 May 92 00:49:16 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by bert.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA05936; Tue, 26 May 92 00:49:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 May 92 00:49:15 -0700 Message-Id: <9205260749.AA05936@bert.ads.com> To: steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au Subject: Re: O.S. version 1.20 Cc: eps@reed.edu >A few weeks.... yippppeeeee! I know, I heard the same thing in the clinic I went to. Not to be pessimistic (Oh well I guess I am), but how long has 2.5 for the EPS classic been announced? about 2 years ago my local dealer said it would be out in a month. But maybe now that they're done with the DP/4 they'll have time to catch up with their O.S. chores? Please? Bank loading, via MIDI, yes! Oh, that reminds me, has anyone been able to record front panel button pushes into their sequencer and play them back with the right result? I tried doing it the other day; the sequencer recorded the stuff as sysex, but sending it back did not produce the right thing. PD From noc.vitalink.com!ejm Tue May 26 07:39:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.240.18.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 07:38 PDT Received: from yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM by mescal.NOC.Vitalink.COM with SMTP id AA21489 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 26 May 1992 07:32:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM (5.65+V1.2/V1.3) id AA00370; Tue, 26 May 92 07:37:48 -0700 Message-Id: <9205261437.AA00370@yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM> To: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Hello?? - thanks for reply In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 26 May 92 01:50:10 EST." <9205260650.AA16365@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 26 May 92 07:37:47 -0700 From: ejm@noc.vitalink.com According to some tests I was running last week, REED.EDU and WWU.EDU lost conenctivity to the NSFNet sometime Friday. At least this was according to NSS10, which is a big hub especially for overseas networks into the USA. Perhaps this caused the silence? ... Erik P.S. NSS10 has been experiencing problems like this for about the past year. From DIALix.oz.au!steveq Tue May 26 09:08:00 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 09:06 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA23054; Wed, 27 May 1992 02:06:48 +1000 (from steveq@DIALix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA16947; Wed, 27 May 1992 00:06:46 +0800 From: steveq@DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Akai samples on EPS Date: Tue, 26 May 92 21:16:50 WST Message-Id: <9205262116.aa04894@DIALix.oz.au> Hi Guys, I have just found a source who has sampled Akai 16 bit samples on an EPS via midi. They are true 16 bit samples, he says he spent weeks doing it, but now has about 100 boxes of disks full! He also has an Atari, and wants to use Disk Wizard, so I said, instead of sending $20 send me a couple of boxes of disks of samples. He agreed, when I get them Ill let you know what they are like. He used to work for an audio firm so I think they will probably be well sampled. If I can get my hands on more, Ill see if I can get them to altosax. P.S. I dont know what Akai it was. see ya, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From vela.acs.oakland.edu!jeff Tue May 26 13:40:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.210.10.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 13:40 PDT Received: by vela.acs.oakland.edu id AA15762 (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 26 May 1992 16:40:00 -0400 From: Jeff Marraccini Message-Id: <199205262040.AA15762@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Subject: Micropolis 1578-15 on EPS-16+? To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 26 May 92 16:40:00 EDT Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, MI U.S.A. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Has anyone tried running a Micropolis 1578-15 (approx. 335MB drive) on an EPS-16+ with the SCSI interface? I have one of these sitting in a drive case, but before I go making a cable, I'm wondering if it'll work at all. The literature says it's a standard SCSI-I drive. I'm using one presently on my 80486 with an Adaptec SCSI controller with great success. Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Marraccini jeff@vela.acs.oakland.edu <- Work Computing Resource Administrator jeff@nucleus.mi.org <- Home Oakland University +1 313 370-4542 Rochester, MI USA 48309-4401 "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia From ads.com!pdel Tue May 26 14:05:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 14:05 PDT Received: by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA03225; Tue, 26 May 92 14:06:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 May 92 14:06:31 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Message-Id: <9205262106.AA03225@ads.com> To: jeff@vela.acs.oakland.edu Subject: Re: Micropolis 1578-15 on EPS-16+? Cc: eps@reed.edu >Has anyone tried running a Micropolis 1578-15 (approx. 335MB drive) on an EPS-16+ with the SCSI interface? Early EPS literature (Classic Series) claimed you could attach up to 600MB to 'em. I don't know if that's true anymore. What I'd like to know is if anyone has tried hooking a 128MB magneto-optical drive to one, or even a 600MB Optical. PD From fl08-g.comm.mot.com!schickda Tue May 26 14:10:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 14:10 PDT Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AB07352; Tue, 26 May 92 16:08:55 CDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10144; Tue, 26 May 92 16:08:54 CDT Received: from fl08-g.comm.mot.com (node_27d3b.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA22875; Tue, 26 May 92 16:11:03 CDT Received: by fl08-g.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA10274; Tue, 26 May 92 16:59:06 EDT Message-Id: <9205262059.AA10274@fl08-g.comm.mot.com> From: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com (n/a David Schick) Date: Tue, 26 May 92 16:59:01 EDT Subject: re: 16+'s FX To: eps@reed.edu Nose. I also have had problems with controlling effects parameters from MIDI. My experience is that in MULTI receive mode, the XCTRL modulator may not be used to modulate effects parameters. The XCTRL modulator seems capable of modulating effects parms in any mode but MULTI. I have gotten aftertouch (and modulation wheel? can't remember) information to modulate effects parameters. If you have a way of mapping controller-type information to aftertouch, this is one solution, although you give up aftertouch as a modulator to anything else. I played around with this a little about a month ago; I'm by no means an expert on this problem, if it is one. If any1 knows anything more, please let us know! I would like to use the XCTRL to modulate effects! - Zoltan ------------------------------------------------------------------ | schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com | | | | We just THINK we exist in space and time. | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From delilah.lbl.gov!lea Tue May 26 14:50:40 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.3.128.141 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 14:50 PDT Received: by delilah.lbl.gov (16.6/1.39) id AA24068; Tue, 26 May 92 14:50:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 May 92 14:50:23 -0700 From: lea@delilah.lbl.gov (Lon Amerman) Message-Id: <9205262150.AA24068@delilah.lbl.gov> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: re: 16+'s FX I've had experience similar to that described by Zoltan on my VFX. I'm not at all sure, but I would guess that most Ensoniq gear using built-in effects is nearly identical in this regard. I will see what I can find out from the VFX group. It would indeed be nice to modulate the effects parameters - especially in multi mode. l a similar From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Tue May 26 15:15:28 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 15:15 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA09283; Tue, 26 May 92 14:53:41 -0700 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.7/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA00424; Tue, 26 May 92 16:15:25 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9205262215.AA00424@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: EPS Directory Listing Utility To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Tue, 26 May 92 16:15:24 MDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.33] Hi Everybody, This has been a fairly active list lately. I don't mean to add clutter to the bandwidth, but I've got a tool that I've been using quite a bit lately, and I thought that it might be of some use to some of you out there in net land. It's a program that will let you read an EPS disk image file, and print out a directory listing. That way after sucking off all of those nifty files at altosax, you can determine what it is you have before off-loading it on to an EPS disk. The program is written in C, and compiles nicely in Unix on an HP workstation (both 300 and 700 series). I'm not sure how easy it is to port to other formats, ie DOS, McIntosh, Atari... etc. I'm definately *not* a programmer, so I'm not sure how portable it is. I use it mostly at work so I can get a directory listing of the stuff I pull off of the net. I wrote it as a simple tool to use on my system, but I figured maybe some of you can get some use out of it. If you run the program without any arguments, it will read from a default device which is hard-coded into the code, you may want to change this to fit your own system. I've got it set to read raw data from my 3.5" floppy, so I can read the directory directly off of an EPS disk here at work. If you give it a file name, it will get the directory from that file. This is probably the way that most people will use it. It understands both raw disk images, as well as the gkh format, so you can use it on the stuff you get from altosax (after uncompressing it of course.) If it sees that it's a gkh format file, it simply throws out the extra header information at the beginning. So, for example, if I've got a file called bells.gkh that I've downloaded from altosax, and I've got it in subdirectory '/tmp/eps', I'd type 'epslist /tmp/eps/bells.gkh', and get something like: GKH format - /tmp/eps/bells.gkh EPS DISK LISTING UTILITY Instrument Blocks METAL XYLO 160 WOOD XYLO 107 MARIMBA 105 VIBES 96 SHORT TRUMP 83 CALIOPE 15 VOCAL PAD 1 308 BASSMAN S-5O 66 ** SONG ** 7 S EIGHT INST+ 3 B SEQUENCE 01 6 Q displayed in return. Note that 'S' stands for 'song', 'B' stands for 'bank, and 'Q' stands for 'sequence'. Similarly, 'O' stands for operating system, 'M' stands for macro, and 'FX' stands for effects file. It does detect EPS-16 Plus stuff too, and will print 'S+', 'B+', and 'Q+' for song, bank and sequencer files respectively. The C&C music factory file that was posted awhile back would look like: Non-GKH format - /users/kdl/ccdem1.eps EPS DISK LISTING UTILITY Instrument Blocks *C+C SONG* 25 S+ C+C INST 1513 C+C BANK 1 7 B+ This is a good way of checking and seeing if the sequence is a 16+, so that those of us with only an 'old' EPS can be bummed. Well, hope that this is useful for some of you. Feel free to alter, and mangle the source code to your hearts content. Thanks to Dave Ruska for decyphering the structure of the EPS disk so I could extract the directory information. This is actually the guts of another program that I wrote that generates 'troff' format EPS disk labels. Send me some email if you're interested in the source code for this. Kelly Larson kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- /* ******************************************************************* */ /* EPS Disk Directory Listing Utility */ /* Version 1.0 - 5/29/92 */ /* - Kelly Larson */ /* kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com */ /* ******************************************************************* */ #include #include #include #include #include #define MAXDIR 38 #define YES 1 #define NO 0 #define EPS_HEADER 1536 #define GKH_HEADER 58 #define ENTRY_LENGTH 26 #define TAG 5 #define EPSNIL 0 #define EPSOS 1 #define EPSDIR 2 #define EPSINST 3 #define EPSBANK 4 #define EPSSEQ 5 #define EPSSONG 6 #define EPSSYSX 7 #define EPSPARNT 8 #define EPSMACRO 9 #define SXPBANK 23 #define SXPFX 24 #define SXPSEQ 25 #define SXPSONG 26 #define SXPOS 27 struct directory { short int id; char name[13]; short int length; short int contig; short int reserve; short int start; int reserved; } record[MAXDIR]; /* *********************************************************************** */ parse_entry(entry,record) unsigned char *entry; struct directory *record; { int i; /* for (i=0; iname[i] = entry[i+2]; } record->id = (256 * (unsigned int) entry[0]) + (unsigned int) entry[1]; record->name[12] = '\0'; record->length = (256 * (unsigned int) entry[14]) + (unsigned int) entry[15]; record->contig = (256 * (unsigned int) entry[16]) + (unsigned int) entry[17]; record->reserve = (256 * (unsigned int) entry[18]) + (unsigned int) entry[19]; record->start = (256 * (unsigned int) entry[20]) + (unsigned int) entry[21]; record->reserved = (unsigned int) entry[22]; record->reserved = (record->reserved << 8) + (unsigned int) entry[23]; record->reserved = (record->reserved << 8) + (unsigned int) entry[24]; record->reserved = (record->reserved << 8) + (unsigned int) entry[25]; } /* ******************************************************************* */ /* main program. */ /* */ /* ******************************************************************* */ main(argc, argv) int argc; char *argv[]; { char c_in,*strncat(),*fname[80],in_string[TAG]; FILE *fopen(); int fd,i,s_cnt,label_cnt,skipbytes,p_flag[32]; unsigned char entry[ENTRY_LENGTH]; /* data filters. EPSNIL should always be set to 'NO'. */ /* Set anything to NO that you don't want printed out. It probably */ /* wouldn't be too hard to make these switchable from the command */ /* line. (Any volunteers?) */ p_flag[EPSNIL] = NO; p_flag[EPSOS] = YES; p_flag[EPSDIR] = YES; p_flag[EPSINST] = YES; p_flag[EPSBANK] = YES; p_flag[EPSSEQ] = YES; p_flag[EPSSONG] = YES; p_flag[EPSSYSX] = YES; p_flag[EPSPARNT] = YES; p_flag[EPSMACRO] = YES; p_flag[SXPBANK] = YES; p_flag[SXPSEQ] = YES; p_flag[SXPSONG] = YES; p_flag[SXPOS] = YES; p_flag[SXPFX] = YES; if (argc > 2) { printf("Usage: %s [filename]\n",argv[0]); exit(1); } if (argc == 1) { strcpy(fname,"/dev/flpy0"); printf("Default device %s being used.\n",fname); } else { strcpy(fname,argv[1]); } if ((fd = open(fname, O_RDONLY)) == -1) { printf("Error opening file %s\n",fname); exit(1); } read(fd,in_string,TAG); if ((in_string[0]=='T')&&(in_string[1]=='D')&&(in_string[2]=='D')&&(in_string[3]=='F')) { printf("GKH format - %s\n",fname); skipbytes = EPS_HEADER + GKH_HEADER - TAG; } else { printf("Non-GKH format - %s\n",fname); skipbytes = EPS_HEADER - TAG; } for (i=0; i Received: from 128.210.10.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 15:38 PDT Received: by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA01590; Tue, 26 May 92 17:38:33 -0500 From: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Message-Id: <9205262238.AA01590@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Thanks all, I have mail back. To: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Date: Tue, 26 May 92 17:38:33 EST Cc: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9205260619.AA04247@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au>; from "Scott Fisher" at May 26, 92 2:19 pm > > Just a test...I don't seem to be getting messages I have been posting or any > eps@reed stuff for that matter. > > I ftp to reed and notice some mail from Jon (in the latest file) having > the same problem...apologies for the 112 mailboxes I just polluted :-) > Scott. > I'm getting the mail again, just lucky I guess. Thanks to all who responded to me. Is yours back yet Scott? I also apologize to the 112 people for the "junk mail". -Jon Greene From vela.acs.oakland.edu!jeff Tue May 26 15:47:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.210.10.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 15:47 PDT Received: by vela.acs.oakland.edu id AA24269 (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 26 May 1992 18:47:23 -0400 From: Jeff Marraccini Message-Id: <199205262247.AA24269@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Subject: Re: TH #83 To: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Date: Tue, 26 May 92 18:47:22 EDT Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9205250458.AA02208@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au>; from "Scott Fisher" at May 25, 92 12:58 pm Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, MI U.S.A. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > Steve's post from TH reminded me... > > Jerry Kovarskys "Errata" article in TH #83??? > > Did anyone else (besides me) think that Jerry appeared a little heavy handed > in his dealing with the TH writers? Yes, actually, I did think it was a bit heavy-handed. Let's hope that it doesn't scare off knowledgeable writers to TH. Sure, fact-checking is important, but humans can't be all-knowing. After all, who checked the "facts" in the EPS-16+ MIDI sysex spec . Anyone who has used that spec, expecting it to be the last word on how the EPS communicates, has been bitten by inaccuracies. I've learned far more from TH than from any other music publication or manual. I don't like to see its authors and contributors put down that heavily by anyone, I guess... Jeff -- Jeff Marraccini jeff@vela.acs.oakland.edu <- Work Computing Resource Administrator jeff@nucleus.mi.org <- Home Oakland University +1 313 370-4542 Rochester, MI USA 48309-4401 "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Tue May 26 17:08:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 17:08 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA06247; Wed, 27 May 1992 10:08:28 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA08798; Wed, 27 May 92 10:08:27 EST Date: Wed, 27 May 92 10:08:27 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9205270008.AA08798@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Assorted things Just a few points: 1) The reason not many of us are posting is that we're too busy downloading 45 disks worth of samples. Or saving up fot the disks. :-) 2) Those Akai samples: bring 'em on. That would be terrific. 3) I don't know about other people, but I would appreciate it if people who download my disk and give it a listen give me a bit of feedback about what they think (just through e-mail: public glorification not required). I just think it would be interesting to see what other people think, so I can refine my skills etc. I am going to try and do the same for other people too. 4) The thing I'd like to see in the archive site are, for lack of a better word, "resource" files. For example, I have disks at home where I've gone through the VFX single wave set, the Roland single wave set, the D50 transients etc. I find these really useful. Do other people want these? (email me and I'll upload them). 5) Without wanting to sound too immodest, I was going through my sound collection and found a few where I thought the programming was really good (obviously I was having a rare inspirational moment). Would people be interested in a set of sounds with a guide as to how I programmed them? I'd certainly like to see other people's. Here we have the opportunity to not only read about the process but hear the final result! 6) Certain slackers like me haven't subscribed to TH yet. Can someone email (or post) and say what the situation is with back issues? Have the TH mob thought of binding all of their info on particular machines into a book? (For example a Mirage book, an EPS book etc). That way those of us who Have Not Yet Seen The Light get to find out what has gone before. That's my ramble for today. Now, Scott, do you really want to see 112 of these EVERY day? :-) Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Tue May 26 18:42:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 18:42 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA07534; Wed, 27 May 1992 11:41:47 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA08943; Wed, 27 May 92 11:41:46 EST Date: Wed, 27 May 92 11:41:46 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9205270141.AA08943@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: DSHD Disks I think you'll find that the 3.5" drive has a circuit which looks for the hole in HD disks and causes an error message if it finds one: that's what happens on PCs. So yes, it's only a double density drive in the EPS, yes it will accept HD disks if you tape over the hole (same on PCS *ooops* and yes, it's a pain that they didn't put a HD disk on the 16+. Oh well Andrew Studer studer@physics.su.oz.au From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Tue May 26 19:03:03 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 19:02 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA05802; Wed, 27 May 1992 10:02:04 +0800 Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 10:02:04 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205270202.AA05802@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Dizchotech uploaded. Now I had to stop and think twice before uploading this one as 2 of the sounds in the demo come from the non-standard Ensoniq library. However here in Australia the local importers spread the demo's around freely so I thought this should not cause too much trouble... D I Z C O T E C H Discotech Demo disc 1 and 2 contain... disco1: Instruments Blocks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guitar 72 (16 Plus only) Drum Tracks 484 The Loop 546 Bass-x 178 Tiny String 135 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- disco2: Instruments Blocks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Super Hits 1 439 Super Hits 2 254 Demo-OB 231 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The (15 block) sequence is on this disk too. (16 Plus Only) The sounds on this disk will work on your average EPS classic, however to enjoy the demo-sequence you will need an EPS 16 Plus. I lied...Guitar needs the distortion FX algorithm to sound like a guitar. Regards Scott _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Tue May 26 19:09:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 19:08 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA05834; Wed, 27 May 1992 10:07:38 +0800 Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 10:07:38 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205270207.AA05834@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Dizcotech uploaded Now I had to stop and think twice before uploading this one as 2 of the sounds in the demo come from the non-standard Ensoniq library. However here in Australia the local importers spread the demo's around freely so I thought this should not cause too much trouble... D I Z C O T E C H Discotech Demo disc 1 and 2 contain... disco1: Instruments Blocks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guitar 72 (16 Plus only) Drum Tracks 484 The Loop 546 Bass-x 178 Tiny String 135 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- disco2: Instruments Blocks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Super Hits 1 439 Super Hits 2 254 Demo-OB 231 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The (15 block) sequence is on this disk too. (16 Plus Only) The sounds on this disk will work on your average EPS classic, however to enjoy the demo-sequence you will need an EPS 16 Plus. I lied...Guitar needs the distortion FX algorithm to sound like a guitar. Regards Scott _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Tue May 26 19:20:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 19:20 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA31989; Tue, 26 May 92 20:19:55 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 May 92 20:19:55 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9205270219.AA31989@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Resource Files In response to Andrew Studer I submit the following comments. Andrew Writes: 4) The thing I'd like to see in the archive site are, for lack of a better word, "resource" files. For example, I have disks at home where I've gone through the VFX single wave set, the Roland single wave set, the D50 transients etc. I find these really useful. Do other people want these? (email me and I'll upload them). >>> YES! (Spoken ala Ed McMahan) sp? 5) Without wanting to sound too immodest, I was going through my sound collection and found a few where I thought the programming was really good (obviously I was having a rare inspirational moment). Would people be interested in a set of sounds with a guide as to how I programmed them? I'd certainly like to see other people's. Here we have the opportunity to not only read about the process but hear the final result! >>> YES! .... Ed Roth From basser.cs.su.oz.au!paul Tue May 26 23:21:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.8.208 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 26 May 92 23:21 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 May 1992 15:58:12 +1000 From: paul@moria.cs.su.oz.au (Paul Craig Tyler) Subject: Australians on the EPS mailing list To: eps@reed.edu I'm interested in hearing from Australians on the EPS mailing list. (I'm sorry to all you others out there, this is probably irrelevant to you.) I've mailed Scott and got a small list of us but I'm sure there are others. I'd like us to attempt to cut down on our ftp traffic over our link to the U.S. by trying to cooperate with distribution. So if you could mail me answering the questions at the end, I'd appreciate it. It will be most relevant to those in the oz.au domain. The aim will be to try to spread samples around locally rather than all of us ftping to the U.S. Either someone download all samples and netfiles (ACSnet file transfer program) them out to people, or those who download from Australia could also netfile to those interested ( thus reducing some of the problems ). It should also help those in the .oz.au domain who are using ftpmail gateways. I'll get back to you all after I've heard from people. Paul -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email address: Name: Do you generally download EVERYTHING from altosax? Have you submitted to altosax? Would you be interested in an auseps mailing list? The rest of the questions are for people with oz.au domain addresses. Do you know about netfile/netget? (Netfile/netget are file transfer programs for ACSnet ie oz.au domain people and are more efficient than ftp as there are no multiple copies.) Can you use netfile/netget? Would you like to be sent all samples from altosax with netfile/netget, ie automatically receive all images sent to altosax? Would you be willing to netfile images to other people? Yes/No Comments: From fl08-g.comm.mot.com!schickda Wed May 27 05:10:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 05:10 PDT Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA12759; Wed, 27 May 92 07:09:15 CDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16606; Wed, 27 May 92 07:09:11 CDT Received: from fl08-g.comm.mot.com (node_27d3b.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA24503; Wed, 27 May 92 07:11:31 CDT Received: by fl08-g.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA11364; Wed, 27 May 92 07:59:24 EDT Message-Id: <9205271159.AA11364@fl08-g.comm.mot.com> From: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com (David Schick) Date: Wed, 27 May 92 07:59:21 EDT Subject: re: 16+'s FX To: eps@reed.edu Hey, gang! I hereby retract my recent post about EPS-16+ FX control. Last nite I decided to check it out and make sure what I said was correct. It wasn't! I had no problem controlling various effects parameters from my Windows 3.1 based sequencer. In MULTI mode, I was able to modulate effects with XCTRL, WHEEL, and PRESS by sending appropriate information from the sequencer. In terms of recording this on the fly, I was able to do this with the WHEEL (modulation) and PRESS (when in channel pressure mode - did not experiment with polyphonic aftertouch). Some sequencers have the ability to filter out this kind of information when recording - if this is the default, it might appear that recording effects control is not possible. Oops - I didn't try doing this with multiple instruments, though. So what happens when you've got several MIDI channels sending modulation information? Which channel does the effect respond to? I seem to remember my Ensoniq dealer telling me it would respond to Instrument 1's channel. Looks like I'll look into this again tonite. 2morrow - the final word. Maybe. Unless someone more knowledgable than me posts 2day. - Zoltan ------------------------------------------------------------------ | schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com | | | | We just THINK we can control 16+ FX. | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From vela.acs.oakland.edu!jeff Wed May 27 07:59:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.210.10.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 07:59 PDT Received: by vela.acs.oakland.edu id AA15206 (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 27 May 1992 10:59:23 -0400 From: Jeff Marraccini Message-Id: <199205271459.AA15206@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Subject: Micropolis 1578-15 To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 27 May 92 10:59:22 EDT Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, MI U.S.A. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] FYI, I was able to get the Micropolis 1578-15 (335MB SCSI drive) drive to work on the EPS-16+. Now it's time to move everything from my Quantum 105 over to the 1578-15 and not munge the directories/banks in the process Thanks to those who responded! Jeff -- Jeff Marraccini jeff@vela.acs.oakland.edu <- Work Computing Resource Administrator jeff@nucleus.mi.org <- Home Oakland University +1 313 370-4542 Rochester, MI USA 48309-4401 "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia From hub.ucsb.edu!cosmo%cs Wed May 27 13:17:23 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 13:17 PDT Received: from cherry (cherry.ucsb.edu) by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA14736 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Wed, 27 May 92 13:17:14 PDT for eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <9205272017.AA14736@hub.ucsb.edu> Received: from by cherry (4.0) id AA00671; Wed, 27 May 92 13:17:09 PDT Date: Wed, 27 May 92 13:17:09 PDT From: Burtin Posted-Date: Wed, 27 May 92 13:17:09 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Programming for the EPS and 16+ I have been doing some experimentation with programming for my EPS 16+. I must say that it is not the easiest task, considering how cryptic the MIDI specs are! Have there been any Transoniq Hacker articles on this subject? I was thinking about ordering some back issues. Any other references that you guys know? Thanks, - Boris (cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu) From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Wed May 27 17:59:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 17:58 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA18315; Thu, 28 May 1992 10:58:06 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA11062; Thu, 28 May 92 10:58:03 EST Date: Thu, 28 May 92 10:58:03 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9205280058.AA11062@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Transients upload next week I've received enough interest to upload my D50 transients and stuff. It'll take me a while to organise, so maybe some time soon after the weekend. The stuff on programming techniques will take maybe a bit longer. Andrew Studer studer@physics.su.oz.au ;. From mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!conway Wed May 27 19:43:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.35.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 19:42 PDT Received: from mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA07759 Thu, 28 May 1992 12:42:04 +1000 (from conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU) Received: by mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (920110.SGI) id AA28066; Thu, 28 May 92 12:42:02 +1000 From: conway@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Thomas Charles CONWAY) Message-Id: <9205280242.28066@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: formatting with epswrite To: eps@reed.edu (EPS mailing list) Date: Thu, 28 May 92 12:42:02 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Hi all. I recall someone having said that they format disks with epswrite. Indeed it is for that reason that I assume that the blank disk image exists on altosax. However, when I attempt this operations, epswrite barfs the following error: Address mark not found. Disk may not be EPS fomatted. Error writing track 0. Does anyone else get this sort of error? I think the drive is a HD drive if that makes any difference. Thomas -- "In our world", said Eustace, "the sun is a huge ball of flaming gas." "Even in your world", the man replied, "that is not what it is, but only what "it is made of." Motto : AD DEUM ET VINUM email: smail: conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au Thomas Conway conway@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au 34 Ramsay Ave East Kew 3102 (Australia) From cco.caltech.edu!tod Wed May 27 20:17:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.215.139.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 20:16 PDT Received: from bartman.cco.caltech.edu by tybalt.caltech.edu (4.1/1.34.1) id AA06217; Wed, 27 May 92 20:16:08 PDT Date: Wed, 27 May 92 20:16:08 PDT From: tod@cco.caltech.edu (Tod Edward Kurt) Message-Id: <9205280316.AA06217@tybalt.caltech.edu> To: conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au Subject: Re: formatting with epswrite Cc: eps@reed.edu re: about epswrite barfing on trying to write the blank disk image file to an unformatted disk. Yup, happens to me too. Didn't think much about it and just went back to formatting disks with my 16+ (slllooowwwww... :-) Whatever happened to that fellow who was writing an "epswrite" for the Mac? *That's* what I'd really like. BTW, anyone know if those nifty 128MB 3.5" optical SCSI drives work with the EPS? I heard the access time was only a little slower than that of a Syquest. Thanks to everyone who has uploaded sounds! They're all pretty awesome and well worth the money! I'm still trying to capture the movement (with no noticable loops) of the sounds in my Sequential Multitrak --end-of-school is luring me away from my keyboard at the moment, however. -Tod From niski Wed May 27 23:06:45 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 23:06 PDT Message-Id: To: ejm@noc.vitalink.com cc: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene), eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Hello?? - thanks for reply In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 May 92 07:37:47 PDT." <9205261437.AA00370@yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM> Date: Wed, 27 May 92 23:06:35 -0700 From: Joe Niski > > > According to some tests I was running last week, REED.EDU and WWU.EDU lost co nenctivity to the NSFNet > sometime Friday. At least this was according to NSS10, which is a big hub es pecially for overseas > networks into the USA. > > Perhaps this caused the silence? > > ... Erik > > P.S. > > NSS10 has been experiencing problems like this for about the past year. > thanks, Erik - i seem to remember problems with mail getting to Oz a while back. Joe From niski Wed May 27 23:17:26 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 27 May 92 23:17 PDT Message-Id: To: Kelly Larson cc: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Subject: Re: EPS Directory Listing Utility In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 May 92 16:15:24 MDT." <9205262215.AA00424@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 92 23:17:14 -0700 From: Joe Niski > Hi Everybody, > > This has been a fairly active list lately. I don't mean to add clutter > to the bandwidth, but I've got a tool that I've been using quite a bit > lately, and I thought that it might be of some use to some of you out > there in net land. It's a program that will let you read an EPS disk > image file, and print out a directory listing. That way after sucking > off all of those nifty files at altosax, you can determine what it is > you have before off-loading it on to an EPS disk. The program is > written in C... Kelly, thanks a lot - it looks like a useful tool. i saved your message on altosax.reed.edu, in /pub/utils/disk-listing-util.txt. troff and nroff disk labels - now that's patience. Joe From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Thu May 28 05:38:46 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 05:38 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA04116; Thu, 28 May 1992 22:38:13 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA10380; Thu, 28 May 1992 20:38:11 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa25637; Thu, 28 May 92 20:38:50 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <08ageme@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 20 Nov 85 00:30 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: Re: formatting with epswrite To: conway@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au Cc: eps@reed.edu X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 19:17:40 MET In <9205280242.28066@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, you write: > Hi all. > I recall someone having said that they format disks with epswrite. Indeed > it is for that reason that I assume that the blank disk image exists on > altosax. However, when I attempt this operations, epswrite barfs the following > error: > Address mark not found. Disk may not be EPS fomatted. > Error writing track 0. > > Does anyone else get this sort of error? I think the drive is a HD drive > if that makes any difference. > > Thomas Hi guys, As far as I can see (AFAICS????:-) merely copying the blank image format on altosax to a disk, will NOT format it. I dont own epswrite, however if all it does is copy a disk image to disk, then copying a blank image is no different to copying a full disk image. When you write to the disk it must be formatted first. It doesnt matter what you write, be it a blank or full disk image. Basically, you will have to put up with formatting the disk on your EPS. Whilst this may be a slow process, I dont know of anything, including Disk Wizard :-( that will do it any faster. Hope this helps, See ya, -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Thu May 28 05:38:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 05:38 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA04110; Thu, 28 May 1992 22:38:09 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (5.65c) id AA10355; Thu, 28 May 1992 20:38:06 +0800 Received: from sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au by DIALix.oz.au id aa25618; Thu, 28 May 92 20:38:49 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (HERMES RMAIL 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992) id <08agem6@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au>; 20 Nov 85 00:30 MET From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Message-Id: Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music Subject: Re: Programming for the EPS and 16+ To: cosmo%cs@hub.ucsb.edu Reply-To: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au Cc: eps@reed.edu X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992 Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 19:04:52 MET In <9205272017.AA14736@hub.ucsb.edu>, you write: > I have been doing some experimentation with programming for my EPS 16+. I must > say that it is not the easiest task, considering how cryptic the MIDI specs > are! Have there been any Transoniq Hacker articles on this subject? I was > thinking about ordering some back issues. Any other references that you guys > know? Thanks, > > - Boris > (cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu) Hi Boris, I think youll find the midi specs book has quite a few errors in it. Whilst I am not eaxctly sure myself what they are, I think Scott Fisher may have some details, over to you Scott :-) -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> S t e v e Q u a r t l y, P e r t h W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a, _--_|\ N PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (309 4445). / \ W + E Perth --> *_.--._/ S 43rd Law of Computing: Anything tha can go wr v error: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped. steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From fl08-g.comm.mot.com!schickda Thu May 28 06:42:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 06:42 PDT Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA25740; Thu, 28 May 92 08:41:02 CDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA12688; Thu, 28 May 92 08:17:48 CDT Received: from fl08-g.comm.mot.com (node_27d3b.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA28605; Thu, 28 May 92 08:43:30 CDT Received: by fl08-g.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA15425; Thu, 28 May 92 09:31:09 EDT Message-Id: <9205281331.AA15425@fl08-g.comm.mot.com> From: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com (David Schick) Date: Thu, 28 May 92 09:31:04 EDT Subject: re: 16+ FX To: eps@reed.edu Hey, gang! After much experimentation (about 15 test setups), I think I understand how effects parameters are controlled remotely. It seems that all modulators (XCTRL, WHEEL, PRESS, etc) WILL control EPS-16+ effects parameters in MULTI mode if they are received on the MIDI channel of instruments 1 or 2. Modulators received on either instrument will control the FX; modulators received on any other instrument will not control the FX. I varied many parameters, including modulation source, instrument MIDI channels, instrument assignments, controller number (for XCTRL). However, I only used the Phaser/Reverb effect. I also just received the Waveboy Parallel Effects Disk and have not experimented with control of those effects. Has anyone seen documentation for any electronic musical instrument that they consider good? My favorite section of the EPS-16+ manual is the paragraph explaining the INVERT DATA feature, which I have not used yet. I don't have it here, but it talks about inverting phase, making the frequency peaks valleys and vice versa, etc. This makes no sense to an electrical engineer whatsoever. What is this feature really doing? I know what INVERT DATA means to me, but it has nothing to do with what they talk about. - Zoltan ------------------------------------------------------------------ | schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com | | | | We just THINK we can control EPS-16+ FX. | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From vela.acs.oakland.edu!jeff Thu May 28 07:30:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 141.210.10.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 07:30 PDT Received: by vela.acs.oakland.edu id AA27965 (5.65c+/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 28 May 1992 10:30:31 -0400 From: Jeff Marraccini Message-Id: <199205281430.AA27965@vela.acs.oakland.edu> Subject: Re: formatting with epswrite To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 28 May 92 10:30:30 EDT In-Reply-To: ; from "Steve Quartly" at May 28, 92 7:17 pm Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, MI U.S.A. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] In regards to the epswrite blank disk formatting problem, epswrite doesn't appear to lay down the low-level disk layout info. that is required on an EPS/EPS-16+ disk. I don't know of any PC-based disk formatters. A couple options for you, if you can't use the EPS/EPS-16+: consider trying protected disk copy program such as Copy II PC from Central Point, or the Central Point Option board. I plan to try the Option Board solution in a week or two when I'm back in Florida. Of course, the cheapest method is to use the EPS/EPS-16+ Jeff -- Jeff Marraccini jeff@vela.acs.oakland.edu <- Work Computing Resource Administrator jeff@nucleus.mi.org <- Home Oakland University +1 313 370-4542 Rochester, MI USA 48309-4401 "The Computer is your Friend." -- Paranoia From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Thu May 28 08:44:28 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 08:43 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <13015-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 28 May 1992 17:43:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 17:43:03 +0200 Message-Id: <9205281543.AAfidibus02802@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: re:formatting with epswrite / 16blank.gkh review Cc: t.g.finstad@fys.uio.no Thomas Charles CONWAY <9205280242.28066@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> writes: > ..(deleted).. >I recall someone having said that they format disks with epswrite. Indeed >it is for that reason that I assume that the blank disk image exists on >altosax. However, .....(rest deleted)............ I would not be surprised if it has a little deeper meaning than what you first expect. The file 16blank.gkh.Z actually has many purposes - I cannot guess all the original composer and editors intentions with the sounds and sequences on the diskette It appears as a strong statement from a young artist aware and concerned about the problems of our modern times. It is not difficult to understand what the "green"-thinking, environmentally concious composer wants to tell us, but somehow it would destroy the message by spelling it out in capital letters. One should of course be careful analyzing the work of living composers,- among other reasons- because living things tends to change. That means the reviewer constantly would have to come up with new angles for analyzis. So either we shoot the piano player or we cover our ass. It could also be that this work was made by an experiencing musician at the stage where he/she realizes and get chocked by the Miles Davis doctrine: "Less is more". Or may be it is actually a desparate cry from one that have got an overdose of hip-hop/industrial/rap/funk.... One can easily see the genius of one placing this on display in the altosax gallery. The erotic aspects of this object (16blank.gkh.Z) is also quite chocking- even in the 90's. It's enormous increase in size when pulled through queen unix's uncompress is much more than what is allowd on public-TV. And then ..the size is is there but .. still nothing. Wow what genius statement. Terje Well you never know .. just in case :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Seriously :-| , I thought formatting an eps diskette on a pc was "just a matter of defining a device driver and build a build a Bios Parameter Block with 10 sectors pr track-800k in stead of 720k and 9trks" and format with this. That should put the tagmarks on the diskette. Transferring 16blank to this diskette will then fill it with what the eps expects. ---------- --------- Terje G. Finstad ==================================================================== From fys.uio.no!t.g.finstad Thu May 28 09:08:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.240.2.50 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 09:07 PDT Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <13255-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 28 May 1992 18:07:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 May 1992 18:07:37 +0200 Message-Id: <9205281607.AAfidibus02843@fidibus.uio.no> To: eps@reed.edu From: Terje Finstad Subject: re:formatting with epswrite / 16blank.gkh review Thomas Charles CONWAY <9205280242.28066@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU> writes: > ..(deleted).. >I recall someone having said that they format disks with epswrite. Indeed >it is for that reason that I assume that the blank disk image exists on >altosax. However, .....(rest deleted)............ I would not be surprised if it has a little deeper meaning than what you first expect. The file 16blank.gkh.Z actually has many purposes - I cannot guess all the original composer and editors intentions with the sounds and sequences on the diskette It appears as a strong statement from a young artist aware and concerned about the problems of our modern times. It is not difficult to understand what the "green"-thinking, environmentally concious composer wants to tell us, but somehow it would destroy the message by spelling it out in capital letters. One should of course be careful analyzing the work of living composers,- among other reasons- because living things tends to change. That means the reviewer constantly would have to come up with new angles for analyzis. So either we shoot the piano player or we cover our ass. It could also be that this work was made by an experiencing musician at the stage where he/she realizes and get chocked by the Miles Davis doctrine: "Less is more". Or may be it is actually a desparate cry from one that have got an overdose of hip-hop/industrial/rap/funk.... One can easily see the genius of one placing this on display in the altosax gallery. The erotic aspects of this object (16blank.gkh.Z) is also quite chocking- even in the 90's. It's enormous increase in size when pulled through queen unix's uncompress is much more than what is allowd on public-TV. And then ..the size is is there but .. still nothing. Wow what genius statement. Terje Well you never know .. just in case :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Seriously :-| , I thought formatting an eps diskette on a pc was "just a matter of defining a device driver and build a build a Bios Parameter Block with 10 sectors pr track-800k in stead of 720k and 9trks" and format with this. That should put the tagmarks on the diskette. Transferring 16blank to this diskette will then fill it with what the eps expects. ---------- --------- Terje G. Finstad ==================================================================== ---------- --------- Terje G. Finstad ==================================================================== From hub.ucsb.edu!cosmo%cs Thu May 28 10:04:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.111.24.40 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 10:04 PDT Received: from cherry (cherry.ucsb.edu) by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA01135 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.0-sun Thu, 28 May 92 10:04:03 PDT for eps@reed.edu Message-Id: <9205281704.AA01135@hub.ucsb.edu> Received: from by cherry (4.0) id AA00227; Thu, 28 May 92 10:03:54 PDT Date: Thu, 28 May 92 10:03:54 PDT From: Burtin Posted-Date: Thu, 28 May 92 10:03:54 PDT To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Real synthesis I recently got into a conversation with Andrew Studer (studer@physics.su.oz.au) about actually programming patches on the EPS (via filters, LFO's, etc.) rather than just sampling a several-second long section of sound from another keyboard. I believe that this is definitely a factor to be considered. The EPS has many powerful synthesis capabilities that should not be discarded. For example, I found that using _both_ filters can create some interesting effects. I programmed ENV2 so that it linearly goes from 0 to 99, and used it to modulate both F1 and F2. The combined effect is that a sweep occurs, starting with only the low frequencies, and ending with only the high frequencies. A bit different from the "standard" analog filter sweep effect. Here's something that Andrew mentioned that I would like to get some more info on: > I *do* hope you modulate your loop position too. Turn your EPS into a > Wavestation! With your 30 block sample you can get a texture which lasts for > virtually eternity. And the REALLY great thing is that, because you're RELYING > on aspects of the machine you'd normally be irritated by (aliasing etc) you > get all your high frequencies back. I have not experimented with loop position modulation at all! I have always been paranoid about it, since it is so hard to find the perfect loop point in the first place. Wouldn't you get some intense popping by doing this? Also, what are some cool modulators for changing the loop position? Wheel? Velocity? - Boris (cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu) From ads.com!pdel Thu May 28 10:52:08 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 10:51 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA14880; Thu, 28 May 92 10:51:59 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA22257; Thu, 28 May 92 10:51:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 May 92 10:51:56 -0700 Message-Id: <9205281751.AA22257@deimos.ads.com> To: eps@reed.edu Well, with some of this talk about EPS synth capabilities, I finally remembered that someone asked for a posting of the article in the Hacker about resonant filters. Since I just realized that I might get into some legal complications by posting the whole article, I think I'll just post the 'formula' for creating the patch. If even doing this is copyright infringement, please everyone disavow all knowledge of my existence. Now this was when only the EPS classic existed, so if trying on a 16+, don't blame me if it doesn't work. :) Okay here it is: An EPS synth type patch, per Brian Willoughby, Transoniq Hacker article Issue 59, May 1990: "First, you will need an empty instrument. Select Command- Instrument and execute CREATE NEW INSTRUMENT, press Layer, execute CREATE NEW LAYER, press Wave and then execute CREATE NEW WAVESAMPLE. You should now hear a very basic, unfiltered square wave. The EPS allows every layer and wavesample to be named. This is a highly useful, butt seldom used, feature. I wish more of the public domain Instruments had names for all the wavesamples. If you ever get a computer-based graphic editing system, this could tell a great deal about the Instrument. In that light, select Edit-Layer and name the new layer L NAME=LOWPASS LYR. Now, to cut down on programming time, I'll tell you how to set up the first layer so that all of its parameters can be copied to the next layer. Don't skip ahead to the next layer or else you'll have to set all of these parameters twice! Select Env2 (filter) and set ENVELOPE=PERCUSSION. Select Filter and set FILTER=2/LP 2/LP, CUTOFF F1=32 F2=32, ENV2 AMT=+60, F1 MOD=WL+PR* +99, F2 MOD=WL+PR* +99. Select Env3 (amp) and set HARDVEL(1)=0, TIMES(1)=1, where (1) refers to the first of the five parameters shown. This softens the slightly annoying click that starts each note. Select Pitch and set BEND RANGE=12 since we are going for a synth type of sound, and most synths have an octave of bend range (many samplers can't do more that 4 half steps, so let's show off a little!). Set LFO AMOUNT=0.0 to allow the mod wheel to change the filter frequency without adding vibrato. Set ROOT KEY=G6 which will enhance the effects for the filter by lowering the pitch of the square wave. That's it for the first layer. Not much, but hang on. The second layer is much easier. Select Command-Layer and execute COPY LAYER. Choose PARAMS ONLY, since we want to use the identical wavesample (this goes for any adaptation of resonant filtering to samples, too). Then select Edit-Layer and name the new layer L NAME=BANDPASS LYR. All you need to do to make this layer into a band-pass filter is press Filter and set FILTER=2/LP 2/HP. You now have resonant filtering on your EPS! PolyKey pressure and/or the modulation wheel raise the filter frequency, which is set to a slow downward sweep by the PERCUSSION envelope template. Press Edit and underline INST=UNNAMED LYR=1 WS=1, then press Amp and change WS VOLUME=50 for a more pronounced effect (see "How this technique works" section). There's still one more layer left. Select Command-Layer and ex- ecute COPY LAYER, PARAMS ONLY. Press Edit-Layer and name this layer L NAME=FEEDBACK OSC. Before proceeding, verify that you are editing layer 3 by pressing Edit and underlining INST=UNNAMED LYR=3 WS=3. Select Layer and set PITCH TBL=NO PITCH. Select Filter and set F1=80, F2=80, ENV2 AMT=+0, F1 MOD=___* +0, F2 MOD=____* +0. Select Env3 (amp) and set SOFTVEL CURVE=ON. Select Amp and set WS VOLUME=75. Select Env1 (pitch) and set ENVELOPE=PERCUSSION. Select Pitch and set ROOT KEY=G1, ENV1 AMOUNT=15.7, BEND RANGE=0, PITCH MOD=WL+PR* +99. The next layer adds a simulated resonant oscillation (again, see "How this technique works" section). Finally, set up the patch select butttons so you can hear this layer. The Edit-Instrument page should allow you to select which layers are active for the four patch combinations. 00=12 Resonant filter 0*=2 High-pass filter *0=123 Resonant oscillator **=1 Normal Low-pass filter LBF. L,B and F refer to the first letter of the layer name. How this technique works Most useful EPS Instruments are multi-layered. This sound combines "LowPass; Lyr" and "BandPass Lyr" for a boost in volume at the filter frequency. But that is only 50% resonance if the wave- samples are at equal volumes. Changing the "LowPass Lyr" to a WaveSample volume of 50 yields about 75% resonance, since the "BandPass Lyr" is more prominent. The "Feedback Osc" is a little more complicated, and less im- pressive. Optimally, the oscillation of a resonant filter should be a pure sine wave. Since I couldn't find an easy way to input a sine wave into the EPS, I just used the digital filters in layer 3 to smooth the square wave out to an approximate sine wave. Then the filter frequency parameters from the first layers are copied to the pitch parameters of layer 3. The keyboard position should have no affect on the resonant frequency, so the Pitch Table is set to No Pitch. The pitch of layer 3 should perfectly track the filter frequency of the other layers, butt I had a little difficulty getting the exact settings to make it work. You might be able to tweak the values to get a more convincing effect. " -End of article From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Thu May 28 11:26:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 11:26 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #041B1) id <01GKJPAHZIHC8WW9CG@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Thu, 28 May 1992 14:26:13 EDT Date: 28 May 1992 14:26:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: Loop Modulation To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GKJPAHZIHE8WW9CG@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > From: "cosmo%cs@hub.ucsb.edu" "Burtin" 28-MAY-1992 13:42:44.00 > Subj: Real synthesis > (Discussion of loop modulation) > > Wouldn't you get some intense popping by doing this? Not always. It depends on how deeply (and/or in what direction) you modulate. I wouldn't try to modulate a long loop myself... > What are some cool modulators for changing the loop position? Wheel? > Velocity? All of the above. Envelopes, too. One trick I came up with a couple of years ago on my EPS 13-minus was to o Create an instrument using the EPS built-in square wave as the only wave form; o Set the loop mod range to 32 bytes, mod amount to 99, and mod source to LFO; o Set the vibrato strength (LFO pitch mod) to zero; o Set LFO speed to about 19. The result sounds to me like a variable-width pulse wave. You may have to move the loop position a bit. My other synthesis trick with loop modulation is to sample a cross-fade from my synthesizer. Nothing amazing in that, but the catch is I set the crossfade to take no more than about 0.2 seconds. Then I set up a short loop at the beginning of the crossfade, and use an envelope to modulate the loop point. I can take 4 seconds to slowly move through the timbre change, but I only use .2 seconds worth of memory 8-). Now for the Important Point on How To Avoid Clicks (on an EPS classic): ONLY MODULATE THE LOOP POINT UPWARD. NEVER MODULATE IT DOWNWARD. If you adhere to this limitation you will not get clicks, because the loop mod is only executed at the end of the loop. The EPS will always jump backwards by the same amount, i.e., the difference between loop start and loop end parameters. I don't know how much of this carries over to an EPS 16-Plus. I get the impression that the 16-plus's transwaves have a predictable *backwards* jump as well, which would tend to eliminate the click problem on samples with a stable pitch. On the first (pulse wave) example, probably because the modulation amount is so small, I don't get clicks even when I use a LFO (which means that the modulation *can* go downward as long as it's in small amounts). -Tom Williams Alderson-Broaddus College WILLIAMS@AB.WVNET.EDU From ulnar!brinkley Thu May 28 13:49:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.95.167.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 13:47 PDT Received: from ulnar.biostr.washington.edu by bashful.u.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA16252; Thu, 28 May 92 13:34:50 -0700 Received: by ulnar.biostr.washington.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0 (w/wrb mods of 4/2/92)) id AA07939; Thu, 28 May 92 13:33:42 PDT Date: Thu, 28 May 92 13:33:42 PDT From: brinkley@ulnar.biostr.washington.edu (Jim Brinkley) Message-Id: <9205282033.AA07939@ ulnar.biostr.washington.edu > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: Joe Niski Subject: Re: NeXT access? Cc: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu), eps@reed.edu One good NeXT archive site is sonata.cc.purdue.edu. GatorFTP+ is in (I think) 2-0-release/binaries. Its a nice program - I've used it to download samples from altosax. There is also a squencer that is now being sold for the NeXT called Presto. A demo is in the same archive. I haven't bought it yet but I plan to and then use it to control my EPS. Jim Brinkley From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Thu May 28 16:25:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 16:24 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA29332; Fri, 29 May 1992 09:24:37 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA12947; Fri, 29 May 92 09:24:35 EST Date: Fri, 29 May 92 09:24:35 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9205282324.AA12947@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Loop modulations Hmm looks like we're starting to get some good info on this subject. As I see it, there are three "problems" that can arise when you try and do loop mods 1) The "popping" effect as the EPS hits a discontinuity 2) A "distortion" effect, caused by (I think) running the loop through a complicated, rapidly changing piece of data which causes lots of discontinuities over a short period of time 3) The loop sounds percussive and uneven no matter what you do with it. Tom Williams provided a nifty solution for problem (1), one which I was unaware of, because by force of habit I always modulate my loops upward! I think (2) and (3) depend more on the nature of the sound that you're trying to modulate, so, off the top of my head, here are a few pointers. 1) Try at first with sounds that aren't harmonically too complex, and which don't wobble around in pitch too much. I've got a few good sounds which just came from me singing into a mike. 2) Don't automatically try and loop the sound so that it's "in tune" with the original sample. A lot of good sounds come from modulating a loop which is *shorter* than what you'd need to keep the loop in tune. This means that your loop is higher in pitch than the original sample. This technique works well when you *do* use harmonically complex sounds, souch as D50 attack transients, as your source. 3) If you want to experiment to see if your sound has any hope of working out, use ENV 1 as your mod source. In fact, if you want to do clean loop mods, my golden rule is USE YOUR ENVELOPES because the LFO doesn't "refresh" as quickly as the envelopes do, which means the loop sounds grainy. It was when I discovered this trick that I really started churning out new sounds. Unfortunately, the aftertouch response is also slow: if you want to mod with aftertouch, your best bet is to layer two loop mods together to hide the "graininess" I usually use the "ramp up" preset for the envelope, and set the first two time values to 80-90 or so. Also, if you change the "attack" parameter in the envelopes not the one in the 5 stage part, the one later on - "attack mod", I think it's called- you can make the loop mod go faster or slower depending on velocity. VERY nice. Now, as my final tip for the moment: you'll notice that, even if you've got a clean loop, it can sound a bit thin. The obvious solution is to layer your sounds. The real beauty of this is that you've got several options other than the boring old detune to make the sound "fat". You can: 1) Reduce the loop size on one layer and retune it so that it's in tune with the other layer, but is sonically different. 2) Change the size of the loop mod (the page with values 1-100 and 4b- 2Mb) so that one layer moves faster than the other. 3) Change the start point of one layer compared to the other. There's TONS of stuff that you can do. The only problem is that it's not really predictable. You really have to spend just a couple of hours playing with only the ENV1 parameters and the loop mod parameters to get a feel for them. But the end result is that you can get musically interesting sounds with tiny amounts of memory which sound like NOTHING else on the market: not wave stations, not anything. And, although there's much more trial and error involved, the possibilities are more open ended than almost anything else around. Whew! That turned into a rant! What I'd be interested to know is if, with development, there's a TH article here, or whether they've covered these sort of things already. Scott? Anyone? Andrew Studer studer@physics.su.oz.au From psy.uwa.edu.au!scott Thu May 28 23:17:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 28 May 92 23:17 PDT Received: from wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA01747; Fri, 29 May 1992 15:44:25 +1000 (from scott@psy.uwa.edu.au) Received: by psy.uwa.edu.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05405; Fri, 29 May 92 13:42:43 WST Date: Fri, 29 May 92 13:42:43 WST From: scott@psy.uwa.edu.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205290542.AA05405@psy.uwa.edu.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Scott Away. Hi Guy's (and gals?) Scott Here...I will be away from the 1-12 of June, so obviously don't be surprised if you can't contact me. I'll get back to you when I return. At least maybe now the signal to noise ratio of the group may return to normal for 2 weeks :-) Keep on EPS-ing ... I have been enjoying the recent spate of articles on programming the EPS Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From AB.WVNET.EDU!WILLIAMS Fri May 29 05:01:30 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.71.2.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 29 May 92 04:59 PDT Received: from DECNET-MAIL (WILLIAMS@AB) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF #041B1) id <01GKKRAKOYHC8Y4XSY@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Fri, 29 May 1992 07:59:52 EDT Date: 29 May 1992 07:59:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Williams Subject: Hacker Writing -- a Tangent To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GKKRAKPRF68Y4XSY@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> X-VMS-To: NET::"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ME MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > From: "studer@physics.su.OZ.AU" 28-MAY-1992 19:26:52.38 > Subj: Loop modulations > > What I'd be interested to know is if, with development, there's a TH article > here, or whether they've covered these sort of things already. > > Andrew Studer > I'd like to know how to pitch an article to TH. In fact, I would like to do the article that Andrew proposed (unless Andrew would like to write it; I feel he has dibs on doing the article :-). Does anyone have info on 'how to submit an article to the Hacker'? If this is inappropriate for an EPS list, send E-mail.... -Tom Williams Alderson-Broaddus College WILLIAMS@AB.WVNET.EDU From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Fri May 29 12:20:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 29 May 92 12:19 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA45212; Fri, 29 May 92 13:19:52 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 May 92 13:19:52 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9205291919.AA45212@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Amiga users? I think I saw some Amiga users on this list. Can someone tell me how useful an Amiga 500 would be? What a decent price might be? Do they come with a midi interface or would that have to be added? Anything else? Any input would be helpful. Thanks. Ed Roth From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Fri May 29 13:26:46 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 29 May 92 13:25 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA35268; Fri, 29 May 92 14:24:59 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 May 92 14:24:59 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9205292024.AA35268@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SCSI target, ID I'm trying to set up an old Sun disk on my EPS. First off, it's ESDI with an Emulex SCSI controller. If someone knows this won't work please save me the tim and let me know. Anyway what SCSI ID does the EPS want to see? I apologize if this info is in the mailing list archives. BTW how can I view the archives ? Thanks, Ed From uunet.UU.NET!grebyn!brian Fri May 29 16:24:23 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.95.10.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 29 May 92 16:24 PDT Received: by ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.1) id ; Fri, 29 May 92 14:47 PDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA03572; Fri, 29 May 92 17:44:13 -0400 Received: from grebyn.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 174329.29385; Fri, 29 May 1992 17:43:29 EDT Received: by grebyn.com (5.57/smail2.3/07-01-87) id AA09869; Fri, 29 May 92 17:33:26 -0400 Received: by daily.grebyn.com (5.57/UUCP-Project/02.16.86-kan-10.20.91) id AA12327; Fri, 29 May 92 17:34:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 May 92 17:34:18 -0400 From: brian@grebyn.com (Brian Bishop) Message-Id: <9205292134.AA12327@daily.grebyn.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Amiga I use an Amiga 2000 with my EPS. There is a decent variety of MIDI software available for it, such as Dr. T's KCS, a pretty heavy-duty sequencer. It's the event-list type beast, although the new version multitasks and shares data with "Tiger Cub", so you can sequence stuff then switch windows and edit it in a grid-block format. It can do the same with "Automix", which allows you to record various MIDI controllers into your sequences. The other main heavy-duty package is "Bars and Pipes" which I haven't really used. Note that both of these packages are $200+. Another package that I really like is "M", which is an algorithmic composer. It is hard to describe, but it basically allows you to enter four different patterns and then vary their playback speed, velocity, note density, accents, etc. These may or may not include "parametric randomness" (my term), randomness within a given range. I'm currently working on a piece that includes samples of televangelist Robert Tilton saying various (amusing) things that are split by velocity on my EPS, and at various points I change M's velocity ranges, changing what he says. The main limitation is only four channels (probably because it also works with the Amiga's internal sounds, which are limited to four). KCS has an algorithmic variations generator, but it is very difficult to learn. An Amiga MIDI connecter costs $50-$100. They are all compatible with all MIDI software (i.e. no drivers required). I'd say, if you are using a computer for just MIDI, check out an ST or Mac. The ST is cheaper and has more MIDI software, the Mac has the pro-level stuff (though I'm not sure why). Most of the Dr. T's stuff was ported from the ST. If you want to do video or graphics (I like to do raytracing) then the Amiga is the way to go, unless you have much $$, in which case you may also consider the Mac. The Amiga multitasks out of the box (true pre-emptive multitasking), which is very handy. Sorry if this bored too many of you, I thought it might have more general interest.... From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Fri May 29 20:52:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.82.100.64 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 29 May 92 20:51 PDT Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA04493; Fri, 29 May 92 21:51:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 May 92 21:51:50 -0600 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9205300351.AA04493@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: SCSI Manual? Gosh! Am I the only one generating any traffic today? OK so I'm still tweeking with my EPS and fine :) Sun SCSI? drive. My EPS advanced applications guide tells me to consult page 5 of the Small Computer Systems Interface manual. I'm guessing that this comes with the 4XRam and SCSI thingymabob. Guess what. I bought my EPS used and didn't get that manual. So, the question of the day is..... Does anybody want to photocopy, sell, paraphrase, plagairize, transcendentally meditate it's contents?, or judge worthless it's contents? Thanks for your help with any of the above. Ed From niski Sat May 30 00:15:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 127.0.0.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 30 May 92 00:15 PDT Message-Id: To: brinkley@ulnar.biostr.washington.edu (Jim Brinkley) cc: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu), eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: NeXT access? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 92 13:33:42 PDT." <9205282033.AA07939@ ulnar.biostr.washington.edu > Date: Sat, 30 May 92 00:15:12 -0700 From: Joe Niski > There is also a squencer that is now being sold for the NeXT called > Presto. A demo is in the same archive. I haven't bought it yet but I > plan to and then use it to control my EPS. > > Jim Brinkley > i played with the Preston demo and it looked really nice - the first professional-level full-featured sequencer i've seen for the NeXT - _and_ it will record audio, i think. The price looked reasonable, too (i think under $400 US). Joe niski@reed.edu From ualr.edu!jabussey Sat May 30 05:33:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 30 May 92 05:33 PDT Received: from spider.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Sat, 30 May 1992 07:33 CDT Received: by ualr.edu (MX V3.1) id 5711; Sat, 30 May 1992 07:32:33 EDT Date: Sat, 30 May 1992 07:32:31 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: Off the EPS path a bit... Sender: jabussey@ualr.edu To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <0095B573.92DB4D80.5711@ualr.edu> I know this may be off the normal path of the eps list but I figured that since we all make music someone on here may know. Does anyone have any experience with sound cards and direct to disk recording? I know some advertize that they have that capibility but I'm wondering how its implemented. Since you see these HD recording systems for thousands of dollars it seems strange that I can order a Sound Blaster pro and have Direct to disk recording. Since I don't really have thousands to invest in my studio, I figure I can rig something up with my pc and a lot of DSP programming. Any comments?? Jacque Bussey From world.std.com!djk Sat May 30 11:37:20 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 137.39.1.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 30 May 92 11:36 PDT Received: from world.std.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA27090; Sat, 30 May 92 14:37:01 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.61+++/Spike-2.0) id AA02950; Sat, 30 May 92 14:36:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 May 92 14:36:53 EDT From: Dan J Keldsen To: eps@reed.edu Cc: djk@world.std.com Subject: EPS non-official SCSI upgrade Message-Id: Hi folks! I bought a Maartists SCSI upgrade (port) for my EPS 16+ Rack, and aside from the fact that they sent me the wrong card (i.e. for the keyboard version, not the rack - it don't fit in me machine!!!), I was wondering if there were any REAL WORLD differences between the official SCSI (Ensoniq) implementation and 3rd party "snap-ins" ? Specifically, I'm trying to get Alchemy 2.3 to hook up to my EPS16+R thru the SCSI settings instead of MIDI (since it is SOOOO much faster). It seems that Alchemy expects the EPS to have a SCSI ID, which it doesn't appear to have... does the official Ensoniq SCSI allow for the EPS to assign itself a SCSI ID, or what am I missing? BTW, has anyone tried Alchemy 2.5 yet? (I don't know if it's shipping yet) It should have full editing (sample) for the 16+. Thanks for any info on these subjects... Dan Keldsen djk@world.std.com From world.std.com!djk Sat May 30 11:49:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 137.39.1.7 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 30 May 92 11:49 PDT Received: from world.std.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA28678; Sat, 30 May 92 14:49:48 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.61+++/Spike-2.0) id AA03537; Sat, 30 May 92 14:49:41 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <9205301849.AA03537@world.std.com> Return-Path: Received: by world.std.com (5.61+++/Spike-2.0) id AA03026; Sat, 30 May 92 14:39:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 May 92 14:39:36 EDT From: Dan J Keldsen To: eps!@world.std.com Cc: djk@world.std.com Subject: Mac version of Disk Wizard, etc. Message-Id: Resent-To: eps@reed.edu Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 92 14:49:39 EDT Resent-From: Dan J Keldsen Any news on the progress of a Mac version of any of the read/write utils for EPS/EPS16+ programs? I know of several people in the Boston area (where I'm at) that would greatly appreciate a program with this functionality... ON A MAC. cheers! Dan Keldsen djk@world.std.com From wri.com!andre Sat May 30 11:53:40 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 30 May 92 11:53 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA13771 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 30 May 1992 13:53:29 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 30 May 92 13:49:00 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9205301849.AA12345@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: EPS non-official SCSI upgrade If I'm not mistaken, I believe the EPS-16's SCSI ID is 3, at least that is what's implied in the manual, in that you must set any other connected SCSI device to anything but 3. AK