From noc.vitalink.com!ejm Sun May 3 11:41:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 132.240.18.13 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 3 May 92 11:41 PDT Received: from yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM by mescal.NOC.Vitalink.COM with SMTP id AA18316 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 3 May 1992 11:35:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM (5.65+V1.2/V1.3) id AA00487; Sun, 3 May 92 11:40:50 -0700 Message-Id: <9205031840.AA00487@yamaha.NOC.Vitalink.COM> To: jaywb@cco.caltech.edu (Jay William Bromley) Cc: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: performers? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 01 May 92 11:31:01 PDT." <9205011831.AA22016@tybalt.caltech.edu> Date: Sun, 03 May 92 11:40:49 -0700 From: ejm@noc.vitalink.com I perform once in a while with a few bands. I'm trying to steer into a more modern-rock/pop sound and hope to have a gigging band by mid-summer. ... Erik ---- Erik Murrey Vitalink Communications ejm@vitalink.com From fl08-g.comm.mot.com!schickda Sun May 3 12:21:53 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 3 May 92 12:21 PDT Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05531; Sun, 3 May 92 14:20:43 CDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA12700; Sun, 3 May 92 14:20:41 CDT Received: from fl08-g.comm.mot.com (node_27d3b.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA09109; Sun, 3 May 92 14:28:33 CDT Received: by fl08-g.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA06989; Sun, 3 May 92 15:11:22 EDT Message-Id: <9205031911.AA06989@fl08-g.comm.mot.com> From: schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com (n/a David Schick) Date: Sun, 3 May 92 15:11:18 EDT Subject: Re: performers? To: eps@reed.edu Hey, gang! I do not perform with my current "band" (although I have as a guitarist/bassist/drummer in the past). I write with one other person and we do not have a band name yet. A band name seems so ... sacred. It takes a while to find a good one. We write industrial/ebm/grunge and are in the process of copyrighting a few songs and releasing them to local radio staions and clubs. Hopefully, someday, we'll be to the point where we're performing, but I'd like to get an electronic drum kit as I hate the thought of just pushing 'play' and singing/screaming over a DAT/sequence. - with much remistigation, Zoltan. _ __// _________________ _ __/ _/ / V \/ / | / | | \ / \ ____ | \___ / \__ \ \_ / \ \ \_/ \*| Ft. Lauderdale, Florida No major riots here, yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------ | schickda@fl08-g.comm.mot.com | | | | We just THINK we exist in space and time. | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Sun May 3 18:09:22 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 3 May 92 18:09 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA00414; Mon, 4 May 1992 09:08:20 +0800 Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 09:08:20 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205040108.AA00414@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: For TOD (Sorry guys who arn't tod :-) Tod, I lost your address...could you send it to me again then I'll get that studd to you. Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From otago.ac.nz!ROSANNE Sun May 3 21:45:56 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 139.80.128.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 3 May 92 21:45 PDT Received: from otago.ac.nz by otago.ac.nz (PMDF #12052) id <01GJMCJU3Q28CCK96L@otago.ac.nz>; Mon, 4 May 1992 16:43 +1300 Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 16:43 +1300 From: "Rosanne F. McKinstry, Analyst, C.S.C. D.P. Unit, Uni. of Otago" Subject: Can I join this mailing list? To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <01GJMCJU3Q28CCK96L@otago.ac.nz> X-Envelope-to: eps@reed.edu X-VMS-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" X-VMS-Cc: ROSANNE From: OUVAX::ROSANNE "Rosanne F. McKinstry, Analyst, C.S.C. D.P. Unit, Uni. of Otago" 1-MAY-1992 14:00:52.41 To: IN%"eps_request@reed.edu" CC: ROSANNE Subj: Can I join this mailing list? Hi, Can I join the mail list? I have an Ensoniq SQ-1, which I use with a Mac IIsi running Deluxe Recorder. Thanks, -- Rosanne McKinstry Phone (03)4798293 (wk), (03)4740427 (hm) System Software Creator FAX (03)4741607 Computing Services Centre E-mail ROSANNE@otago.ac.nz University of Otago ...of making many books there is no end; Dunedin and much study is a weariness of the flesh. NEW ZEALAND...........................................Ecclesiastes 12:12....... From hpgrrd.gr.hp.com!daver Mon May 4 08:45:34 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 08:45 PDT Received: from hpgrrd.gr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA29968; Mon, 4 May 92 08:45:21 -0700 Received: by hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA01871; Mon, 4 May 92 09:44:33 mdt Date: Mon, 4 May 92 09:44:33 mdt From: Dave Ruska Message-Id: <9205041544.AA01871@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: become famous with your EPS Cc: daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (Extracted from the press release for ELP's `Black Moon' album ....) "For me, `Paper Blood' was a great opportunity to rip hell out of the Hammond," laughs Emerson, who reports that, "the truth is, I was never completely happy with the sound I used to get in the seventies. But on this album, I think I've finally achieved the ultimate Hammond sound." OK, anyone care to sample this sound into an EPS? Dave From altosax.reed.edu!niski Mon May 4 09:19:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 134.10.2.28 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 09:19 PDT Received: by altosax.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.11) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 09:18 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 May 92 09:18 PDT From: niski@reed.edu (Joe Niski) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.62) To: jaywb@cco.caltech.edu (Jay William Bromley) Subject: Re: performers? cc: eps@reed.edu well, i'm a committed amateur who records midi/electronic nightmare rhythm soundscapes in his basement and performs (on bass and guitar) in "alternative" (a useless, yet the only readily available, descriptor) rock bands as much as possible. Portland, OR (despite the disgusting behavior of our city police) is a great place to play in public as long as you don't want to quit your day job. i don't use my keyboards or midi gear in live performance (Scott's .sig sez it all, though he could add: '"Sorry, a System Error ocurred" is a registered trademark of Apple Computer'). The last working band i was in (for the Portlanders on the list) was Enac Enac. A new project, Theme Park, should be performing in the usual dives (Satyricon, X-Ray Cafe, etc.) in late June. --- Joe Niski niski@reed.edu Computer User Services Reed College, Portland, OR 97202 503-777-7525 "Who do you call when the gang wears blue?" From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Mon May 4 10:01:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 10:01 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA03736; Mon, 4 May 92 10:01:23 -0700 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.7/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA01389; Mon, 4 May 92 11:01:19 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9205041701.AA01389@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: OS 2.5 and other whining :-) To: eps@reed.edu (EPS Mailing List) Date: Mon, 4 May 92 11:01:19 MDT In-Reply-To: <9205021325.AA29180@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au>; from "Scott Fisher" at May 2, 92 9:25 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.33] > > b) They'll come out with an EPS 32 and hope we forget > > about it. > > I have a feeling we are about to see one of those in the next few > weeks/months...BUT I suspect EPS16 Plus owners will be able to > upgrade this time $600-700 US > Do you really think so? I think the big area where the EPS is lacking is in the memory exandability, and also the number of samples that can be loaded at one time. In order for a reasonably cheap upgrade to be offered, the front panel would have to just like the current one, so they couldn't add any buttons. Adding more memory expandability wouldn't necessarily change the package (as long as there's room inside the EPS for SIMMS, SIPPS or whatever they go with), but adding the ability to add more voices might. Hmmmm, I guess you could perhaps have the ability to load 16 different samples at once, and somehow switch between two banks of 8. That way you could still use the same button configuration. I wonder if the old memory upgrade cartridges and SCSI ports will be compatible with the next generation EPS? Oh, and while I'm daydreaming about bigger and better EPS's... wouldn't it be great to have a 1.44 Meg floppy drive instead of the lower density? If you look in the computer catalogs, they're actually the same price anymore. Wow, an internal hard drive would be cool too... > > c) I should stop whining. > > No way. Whine away! =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From wri.com!andre Mon May 4 11:15:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 11:14 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA20636 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 4 May 1992 13:14:10 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 4 May 92 13:10:51 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9205041810.AA01275@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63.RR) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: OS 2.5 and other whining :-) >>Do you really think so? I think the big area where the EPS is >>lacking is in the memory exandability... >>....... Kelly Larson I agree completely here. Before anything else I would hope they adress this problem. A lot of other sampling workstations (Peavey, Kurzweil, Emu) allow for sizeable RAM expansion. Heck, I could live with a separate box that's wired to the memory expander if that meant we could add any number of SIMMS. Don't know how possible this is though. AK From mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu!bsanders Mon May 4 13:01:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.174.5.58 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 13:00 PDT Received: from mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu by garcon.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA29783 (5.65d+/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 4 May 1992 15:00:02 -0500 Received: by mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-1.0) id AA07064; Mon, 4 May 92 14:59:35 CDT Date: Mon, 4 May 92 14:59:35 CDT From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) Message-Id: <9205041959.AA07064@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: An EPS Annoyance Stop me if you've heard this one before... When triggering some samples on my EPS 'classic,' I often hear a loud click or pop at the beginning of the sample. If it happened every time, I would assume it was due to the sample start point being a non-zero sample value. After much experimentation, it appears to occur about once every 20 rapid key triggers. (Uh oh. That's that same as the polyphony...) So, is this the fabled 'output gremlin' that was fixed in the new EPS's? I called Ensoniq, and they had no clue what it might be. Oh, one important side note: I *think* it only occurs when the Not-Quite-Big-Enough Heat Sink changes from a reddish glow to a semi-molten blue-white glow :-) PS - Has anyone tried installing a small box fan inside the case of the EPS? If so, please send details of the project, including where you got the fan. Thanx 4 Any Help, Barry Sanders bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu d. From eos.ncsu.edu!aabuinev Mon May 4 13:29:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 152.1.25.6 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 13:28 PDT Received: from c00369-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu by eos05a.eos.ncsu.edu (5.65b/eos-server.920426) id AA08479; Mon, 4 May 92 16:28:54 -0400 Posted-Date: Mon, 04 May 92 16:28:39 EDT Received: by c00369-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu (5.57/eos-client.920428) id AA13386; Mon, 4 May 92 16:28:44 -0400 From: aabuinev@eos.ncsu.edu Message-Id: <9205042028.AA13386@c00369-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Dealers up in NY/CT Date: Mon, 04 May 92 16:28:39 EDT Howdy; I'm about to make the move to my first "real job" up to Danbury, CT or thereabouts. Somewhere in the next 6 months I think I'm going to ante up and get myself a Kurzweil K2000 to add to my EPS 16+; can anyone recommend a good dealer up in those parts? (It's in the western part of CT, but I guess NY/NJ/CT area would be fine).. I heard that Sam Ash is the big dealer in that area (they have a store in White Plains I think). Oh well, any help would be appreciated for this eventual insane purchase :-) Aris From intelhf!uunet!tellab5!tellab2!tomh Mon May 4 13:46:38 1992 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 13:46 PDT Received: by intelhf.intel.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.24.1 #24.4); Mon, 4 May 92 13:44 PDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA17259; Mon, 4 May 92 15:47:36 -0400 Received: from tellab5.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 154607.17724; Mon, 4 May 1992 15:46:07 EDT Received: from tellab2.TELLABS.COM by tellab5.tellabs.com (4.1/smail2.5/10-21-91) id AA01762; Mon, 4 May 92 09:10:27 CDT Received: by tellab2.TELLABS.COM (5.61/4.7) id AA04754; Mon, 4 May 92 09:10:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 May 92 09:10:26 -0500 From: intelhf!uunet!tellab2.TELLABS.COM!tomh (Tom Huber) Message-Id: <9205041410.AA04754@tellab2.TELLABS.COM> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: re:performers >Hi all, > Just curious, how many of you out there actually perform live (paid >or not)? How many of you out there are full time (is there such a >thing?) musicians? Hobbyists? Just curious. To start this off I've I've performed live in the past (while still a college student with lots of free time). I hope to be performing live again in the near future, once my current band finds a new drummer. We play rock, with a somewhat "alternative" sound; we have about 1/3 original, 2/3 cover tunes right now, with the intent of doing all original material someday. I've found the EPS to be extremely useful in the live setting - the patch select buttons, performance presets, etc. make it quite flexible once an initial setup has been established. The extensive modulation routings make it a nice controller - it works quite well with my QuadraVerb. Tom =============================================================================== tomh@tellabs.com | | My opinions are, by definition, my own. Tom Huber | GO | Tellabs, Inc. | IRISH! | You can't fool all the people all the time, Lisle, IL | | but if you succeed once, it lasts four years. =============================================================================== From delilah.lbl.gov!lea Mon May 4 14:31:01 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.3.128.141 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 14:30 PDT Received: by delilah.lbl.gov (16.6/1.39) id AA19721; Mon, 4 May 92 14:30:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 May 92 14:30:29 -0700 From: lea@delilah.lbl.gov (Lon Amerman) Message-Id: <9205042130.AA19721@delilah.lbl.gov> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Newcomer seeks advice I'm considering buying an EPS or EPS-16 and I have several question. (Answers to this this query will weight my decision. The existence of an active and informative mailing list such as this has already already had significant impact and made me less inclined to buy an Akai or Roland) I have browsed the digests, but haven't discovered satisfactory answers. The SF Bay Area has a very active used instrument market and It's unlikely that I will buy either of these instruments new. I would appreciate any information and answers to the following questions (opinions count): No intention of stirring anything up, but... How does the EPS stack up against the EPS-16? Will I severely limit the number, kinds, quality of available samples by choosing one over the other? What kinds of configurations should I look for (ie expansions, ram, add-ons? (sequencing options are not important to me now) How do I check for the OS? (I don't own one yet, but I see from the digests that this seems to be an important issue) What kinds of questions should I be asking? I'm now using a VFX for my controller, a Mac with Master Tracks for sequencing, and a Kwai K4r and an Emu Proformance module for additional sounds. (I may sell the K4r & Emu to finance my new purchace) Thank you in advance for any information & a public thank-you to Scott Fisher for info already sent. looking forward to becoming a permanent subscriber, lon amerman lea@caleb.lbl.gov (510) 486-5317 (510) 839-1714 l From cco.caltech.edu!jaywb Mon May 4 14:47:40 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.215.139.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 14:47 PDT Received: from bartman.cco.caltech.edu by tybalt.caltech.edu (4.1/1.34.1) id AA11722; Mon, 4 May 92 14:47:24 PDT Date: Mon, 4 May 92 14:47:24 PDT From: jaywb@cco.caltech.edu (Jay William Bromley) Message-Id: <9205042147.AA11722@tybalt.caltech.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: More memory! Hi all, Add another vote for more memory for the EPS-16+. I think this would be more useful to most people than more voices. I do a tremendous amount of layering wavesamples and such, and even in my most dense passages I seldom run out of voices. In my opinion, allowing the 16+ to be expanded to something like 8Mb would make the 16+ a truely formidable machine. Enough opinion. Sometime last year when I was going to buy my expander I wrote the Transoniq Hacker to see if they planned to come out with a 4x expander for the 16+ and they said "We have no plans for a 4x memory expander for the EPS-16 PLUS..." What this means who can say? Hopefully it would be even more than 4x and be SIMM or SIPP based. Still hoping, Jay jaywb@ccosun.caltech.edu From sun.com!sybase!mw Mon May 4 18:41:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.84.181.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 18:41 PDT Received: from Sun.COM by theory.TC.CORNELL.EDU (4.1/1.6) id AA29701; Mon, 4 May 92 21:41:20 EDT Received: from sun.Eng.Sun.COM by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18990; Mon, 4 May 92 18:35:04 PDT Received: from sybase.UUCP by sun.Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16765; Mon, 4 May 92 18:35:02 PDT Received: from pegasus.sybase.com by sybase.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybGW2.0) id AA26077; Mon, 4 May 92 14:43:13 PDT Received: by pegasus.sybase.com (5.57/SMI-3.2/SybUlt1.1) id AA17609; Mon, 4 May 92 14:43:03 PDT Date: Mon, 4 May 92 14:43:03 PDT From: sybase!mw@sun.com (Michael Wertheim) Message-Id: <9205042143.AA17609@pegasus.sybase.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: exact pitch shifting My EPS manual (the one that comes with the turbo model) explains pitch-shifting in terms of semitones and "cents" (which they never define -- is it 1/100 of a semitone?). Anyway, if I want to speed up a sample by some percentage -- say 3.174% -- how do I do it? From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Mon May 4 19:04:12 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 19:03 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA02420; Tue, 5 May 1992 10:02:56 +0800 Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 10:02:56 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205050202.AA02420@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: For Sale... I noticed this and thought someone may be after their 4th EPS :-) Subject: EPS for sale! Date: 4 May 92 23:13:41 GMT Followup-To: poster Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh. Lines: 37 I am posting this for a friend: For sale: Ensoniq EPS w/4X Very good condition, will include 30-40 disk sound library. Asking: $900 OBO Between everyone out there in net-world and myself, I think he is really itching to sell this thing. He told me to inform him of any offer. So, if the price is too high, save your flames and place your bid; but lets be reasonable. The things I'll go through for $25. Thanks. cs-net addr- matchick@andy.bgsuvax.edu From cup.portal.com!ceej Mon May 4 20:55:55 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.83.245.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 20:55 PDT Return-Path: Received: by nova.unix.portal.com (5.65b/4.1 1.99) id AA06312; Mon, 4 May 92 20:55:15 -0700 Received: by portal.unix.portal.com (1.239) id AA14794; Mon, 4 May 92 20:55:10 -0700 Received: by hobo.corp.portal.com (4.1/4.0.3 1.14) id AA20109; Mon, 4 May 92 20:55:09 PDT To: eps@reed.edu From: ceej@cup.portal.com Subject: Syquest problems... Lines: 39 Date: Mon, 4 May 92 20:55:08 PDT Message-Id: <9205042055.1.19894@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Hi, it's me again (with the non-possessed EPS, thanks to the advice of you folks-- thanks!)... I got my EPS hardwired (no more glitches), and got a PS systems SCSI interface ("EPS-4X") installed. I ordered a Syquest removable 44M hard drive, and got the 25-pin output SCSI connector (nothing but a 50 pin ribbon scrunched into a cheezy 25-pin plastic 25-pin connector, but no biggie I guess). Well, the Syquest arrived today (Happy happy, joy joy!), and I hooked it up and got nothing but "UNCONNECTED SCSI DEV" messages from my EPS. :-( I tried it as SCSI device 0, 2, and 4 (you guessed it; it was shipped with only one jumper), with no luck. I power up the Syquest, wait for it to complete it's churning, then power up the EPS (I do get the "SCSI INSTALLED" message), and after a bit the Syquest's read/write LED comes on and stays lit (it won't even respond to the eject-disk-pack sequence, ie- it won't spin down). I thought there were some of you out there that were successfully using the Syquest drives? If so, please help! I'm exasperated-- I'm *this close* to introducing my EPS to SCSI! One strange side note-- I have an old Seagate ST-296N laying around (retired because of extensive bad sectors), and I thought I'd try substituting it in place of the Syquest. It worked as SCSI DEVICE 0! This makes me think that the SCSI 25->50 pin connector I have is ok, since I used it to hook up the Seagate. I am VERY reluctant to use the Seagate drive though because it had mucho problems when I used it on my Amiga... Also, I successfully hooked up the Syquest to my Amiga and did a sector scan-- no bad sectors, and nearly a guarentee that the drive is fine. The more I think about it, the more I think it's my EPS's inability to interface with the Syquest(?). I hope not! Maybe it's the PS systems SCSI interface? BTW, I'm running EPS OS 2.49. I thank you for ANY information, advice or similar experiences! -- a tired ceej From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Mon May 4 23:30:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 4 May 92 23:30 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA02908; Tue, 5 May 1992 14:29:13 +0800 Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 14:29:13 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205050629.AA02908@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Memory vs Voices Subject: They'll come out with an EPS 32 and hope we forget about it. >From kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com Tue May 5 01:39:41 1992 >Do you really think so? I think the big area where the EPS is lacking >is in the memory exandability, and also the number of samples that can >From andre@wri.com Tue May 5 02:45:36 1992 >I agree completely here. Before anything else I would hope they >adress this problem. A lot of other sampling workstations (Peavey, While you are both right, another 12 voices won't go astray. I have found my programing has been subconsciously affected! I tend to avoid programs that use more than 2 layers per patch. Being able to use more layers without fear of voice-stealing would be nice...not as nice as 16 Meg but still nice all the same :-) Regards Scott _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From csrd.uiuc.edu!bordner Tue May 5 01:58:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.174.162.46 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 May 92 01:58 PDT Received: from sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu by s46.csrd.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA24666 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 5 May 1992 03:58:39 -0500 Received: by sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10142; Tue, 5 May 92 03:58:39 CDT Date: Tue, 5 May 92 03:58:39 CDT From: bordner@csrd.uiuc.edu (James Bordner) Message-Id: <9205050858.AA10142@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: exact pitch shifting sybase!mw@sun.com (Michael Wertheim) writes: > > My EPS manual (the one that comes with the turbo model) explains pitch- > shifting in terms of semitones and "cents" (which they never define -- is > it 1/100 of a semitone?). > I'm pretty sure you're right. > Anyway, if I want to speed up a sample by some percentage -- say 3.174% -- how > do I do it? Umm, let's say you want to speed up a frequency by a percentage p. The equivalent number of cents difference is : 1200 log (1 + p/100) cents = ------------------ log (2) For example, suppose you want to speed up a frequency by 100% (i.e. double it). Plugging p=100 into the above should give you cents=1200. This corresponds to 12 semitones (1200 / 100), which is exactly 1 octave. Using your example of 3.174% gives cents = (about) 54, or just over a half semitone. This formula seems right to me but I could be wrong. (After all it's almost 4am here and I'm just a _little_ tired :-) --james From mips2.ma30.bull.com!peters Tue May 5 15:59:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.35.27.11 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 May 92 15:59 PDT Received: by mips2.ma30.bull.com (5.61/1.34) id AA10926; Tue, 5 May 92 18:57:27 -0400 From: peters@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Dan Peters) Message-Id: <9205052257.AA10926@mips2.ma30.bull.com> Subject: Performers To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 5 May 92 18:57:26 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL0] Hi, I am one of those silent members of the list (usually too busy at work, but I have some time late tonight). I play my main keyboard with my church choir. With the gospel music we use a Base guitar, drum, keyboard(s), Hammond Organ and piano (generally two keyboard players, drummer and bass). I consider Sunday morning in my pentecostal church 'live'; music plays a big part in the worship service. Also the choir does various engagements through the year from other churches, civic programs, outdoor concerts, tent revivals, etc. I am not paid, my day job as a computer engineer supports 'my habit'. I find it challenging to integrate various sounds from my FM synth (Yamaha V50) with the sound of an accompanying Hammond organ :-). I don't travel with my EPS-m; too fragile; too bulky; too expensive. I use it strictly for my small MIDI studio at home, primarily used at this time for songwriting and enjoyment. Between, full-time work, a wife and young family (2 nuclear-powered kids) and a fairly active choir and church things can get pretty busy. I get really enjoy this mailing list, even if I don't get to contribute as often as I would like. love my EPS-M (but wish there was an affordable upgrade path), Dan From cup.portal.com!ceej Tue May 5 17:32:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.83.245.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 May 92 17:31 PDT Return-Path: Received: by nova.unix.portal.com (5.65b/4.1 1.99) id AA11565; Tue, 5 May 92 17:31:32 -0700 Received: by portal.unix.portal.com (1.241) id AA08350; Tue, 5 May 92 17:31:30 -0700 Received: by hobo.corp.portal.com (4.1/4.0.3 1.14) id AA09703; Tue, 5 May 92 17:31:29 PDT To: eps@reed.edu From: ceej@cup.portal.com Subject: Re: Syquest problems... Lines: 28 Date: Tue, 5 May 92 17:31:28 PDT Message-Id: <9205051731.2.8953@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) fyi, I sent this reply directly to Mike Rose, who suggested that my SCSI terminator scheme was incorrect. However, as an afterthought, I am sending it to all you folks-- maybe it will help to more clearly define my situation. If the resend was not wise (wasted bandwidth, etc), let me know! I'm not fully aware of the customs here in eps mailing list land... --- forwarded note follows --- I believe that my Syquest is terminated properly. It has what the users manual describes as a "Terminating Resistor Pack" which is an 3x8 matrix of pin sockets. In the sockets are 3 mustard colored 1x8 resistors labeled "708E221331 9143", although the manual's picture seems to picture an 8x3 sized "resistor pack" (although they could be picturing all 3 8x1 resistors together). The resistors are inserted so that the writing faces the rear of the unit and there is a dot on the resistors that is on the left-most part (when viewed from the back). The dot might indicate the location of pin 1 of the resistor pack, which is why I mention it-- the resistors seem to be seated in the right direction. It just won't cooperate with the EPS, it seems-- my old Seagate's access light will flicker a bit when the Ensoniq boots off floppy, and then I can format it successfully. The Syquest's light, on the other hand, instead of flickering stays lit and seems to cause the Syquest to freeze up and refuse to be bothered. As I mentioned before, at this point, I can't even cause a spin-down when I push the stop button in the front of the drive. Confused, Ceej From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Tue May 5 18:19:10 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 May 92 18:18 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA03471; Wed, 6 May 1992 09:17:40 +0800 Date: Wed, 6 May 1992 09:17:40 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9205060117.AA03471@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Syquest problems... Ceej, Is your 44 Meg Removable drive a Syquest 555 mechansism? Earlier mechanisms may not be compatable. Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cup.portal.com!ceej Tue May 5 19:04:36 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.83.245.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 May 92 19:04 PDT Return-Path: Received: by nova.unix.portal.com (5.65b/4.1 1.99) id AA21833; Tue, 5 May 92 19:04:27 -0700 Received: by portal.unix.portal.com (1.241) id AA09983; Tue, 5 May 92 19:04:26 -0700 Received: by hobo.corp.portal.com (4.1/4.0.3 1.14) id AA10533; Tue, 5 May 92 19:04:25 PDT To: eps@reed.edu From: ceej@cup.portal.com Subject: Re: Syquest problems... Lines: 5 Date: Tue, 5 May 92 19:04:24 PDT Message-Id: <9205051904.1.10419@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) asked: > Is your 44 Meg Removable drive a Syquest 555 mechansism? Earlier mechanisms > may not be compatable. Yup, mine is a SQ555. From ads.com!pdel Tue May 5 23:08:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Tue, 5 May 92 23:08 PDT Received: from bert.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA04347; Tue, 5 May 92 23:08:50 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by bert.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA10671; Tue, 5 May 92 23:08:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 May 92 23:08:49 -0700 Message-Id: <9205060608.AA10671@bert.ads.com> To: ceej@cup.portal.com Subject: Re: Syquest problems... Cc: eps@reed.edu Interesting, I have a 44 removable - from a company called Third Wave - it has worked with my EPS-12, 16+, Mac, and Atari, right out of the box. PD From intelhf!uunet!practic!vine!ksh Wed May 6 05:21:48 1992 Return-Path: Received: from local by romulus.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 May 92 05:21 PDT Received: by intelhf.intel.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.24.1 #24.4); Wed, 6 May 92 04:09 PDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA29176; Wed, 6 May 92 06:40:04 -0400 Received: from practic.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 063959.3900; Wed, 6 May 1992 06:39:59 EDT Received: by practic.com (5.61/smail2.5/04-23-91) id AA05083; Tue, 5 May 92 22:19:29 -0700 Received: by vine.com (5.51/smail2.5/11-24-89) id AA00912; Tue, 5 May 92 22:47:35 PDT Date: Tue, 5 May 92 22:47:35 PDT From: intelhf!uunet!vine.com!ksh (Kent S. Harris) Message-Id: <9205060547.AA00912@vine.com> To: ames!cup.portal.com!ceej, eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Syquest problems... Ok, I don't have a lot of time but I'll try to give you as much info as possible as quickly as I can (BTW, I've been on this list since the beginning, a very long time ago). I use a Syquest 44MB drive on my EPS but I have had to do a lot of work to make it functional. In fact, my old system (I've recently purchased a Quadra 900 and have not tried to use the EPS with it yet, but plan to soon since V2.5 of Alchemy was just released) was connected as follows: Mac+-------PLI30 disk-------Syquest disk-------EPS where ---- are SCSI cables. Let me switch to the present tense. First of all, the Mac+ does not have internal termination. Since the PLI30 is close to the Mac+ I keep the internal terminators on that drive. The cable from the PLI30 to the Syquest is a 12 foot cable (more about this in a moment). The Syquest is close to the EPS. Neither the Mac+ nor the EPS provide terminator power. Sooooo, I built my own custom DB25 terminator and placed it in-line at the EPS's DB25 connector. The custom terminator only looks for power from the Syquest disk direction. Next I opened the Syquest drive and connected the +5 volt power supply connection thru a power diode to the Syquest's terminator power pin (none of the disk drives supply terminator power either). I use the diode so that if another terminator power source is applied to the SCSI bus a slight voltage differential between sources will not cause one source to sink power from another one. Now then, for all practical purposes the bus is (almost) terminated at both ends. This is crucial for a 13 or 14 foot bus like I am using. A word about cables. The nice round shielded style are great for blocking unwanted electromagnetic junk but have a relatively high capacitance per unit length---so a long cable is going to slow the signal edge rates and possibly violate the SCSI requirements. Ribbon cables have much lower capacitance but are apt to pick up unwanted noise. If you are going to use a long cable, you'll have to experiment. I'm using the shielded style. Next problem. I have to power up the system and connect the system in a very particular order. First, the cable connecting the Syquest to the PLI is disconnected at the PLI end. Next the PLI30 and the Syquest drives are powered on. Next the Mac+ and the EPS are powered on. After the Mac+ has booted, Alchemy is started and the cable is reconnected (the EPS is booted by this time as well). It is not good to (dis)connect a "live" SCSI cable but this was the only way it seems to work. Now, for the most important part. I could spend a great deal of time bitching about Ensoniq's repair policies. I have a long and bitter history with such (I own an ESQ1 as well, actually had two of them). But to make a long story short, I intimidated the Ensoniq software author who wrote the SCSI code for the EPS and he sent me a new set of ROMs for my EPS---I would sincerely ask that this not be disseminated to Ensoniq should he still be working there---he did me a favor and I appreciated not have to return my EPS, yet again, to some repair shop were the repairman learned about electronics from Popular Electronics magazine. My ROM is a beta release, but it solved a great great great many problems, not all, but a great many. If you (on the old EPS anyway) hit CMD then ENV1, ignore the display and hit the up arrow until you get to "Software Information"...then keep hitting ENTER until you see ROM version. My ROM version is 2.40. If yours is a lower number, better head to your favorite "Ensoniq Authorized Repair Station". Now, all of this said and done, be advised that I have not used an EPS+. I suspect the business about the ROM is completely different. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this pontification and if you blow up your SCSI interface, don't come crying to me. I hope the information annunciated here will be of some value to you. That'll be a hundred dollars please. The Quintessential Curmudgeon, Kent S. Harris From ads.com!pdel Wed May 6 12:58:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 May 92 12:58 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA07396; Wed, 6 May 92 12:59:43 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA26263; Wed, 6 May 92 12:59:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 92 12:59:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9205061959.AA26263@deimos.ads.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Ensoniq Clinic in CA I went to the demo night at the local dealer yesterday. They showed the 16+, SD-1, SQ-1, SQ-32, and the DP/4. It was basically geared for newcomers to Ensoniq equipment. We didn't really see much as far as the DP/4 capabilities, mostly "it'll do anything". Of course I asked if an EPS-32 was coming out, and the guy (Bob Wehrman) said "nope, no way, we're not coming out with that, can't be done", etc. etc. So it really sounded like he was telling the truth, but of course, who can tell? One thing he did say was that the next thing to look for from Ensoniq is the use of virtual memory. He said we'll probably see something like a 100+mb Flashram-type of setup. This is supposedly based on the latest memory chip from Intel - anyone with more info on that correct me if that's wrong, but it sounds like they want to get the hard drive capabilities onto one of those chips and stick it in the EPS. And now, back to your regular program, etc., blah-blah-blah. PD From comm.mot.com!chucksi Wed May 6 13:27:44 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 May 92 13:27 PDT Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13127; Wed, 6 May 92 15:26:29 CDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15555; Wed, 6 May 92 15:26:26 CDT Received: from stc.comm.mot.com (stc018.stc.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17862; Wed, 6 May 92 15:33:53 CDT Received: by stc.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA09249; Wed, 6 May 92 15:24:35 CDT Date: Wed, 6 May 92 15:24:35 CDT From: chucksi@comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu) Message-Id: <9205062024.AA09249@stc.comm.mot.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS-16+ Quantize question I have a question on the EPS-16+. Everytime I go to quantize a sequence, the first note of the first beat gets compressed into an unintelligible note (duration so short that at first you think it's gone...but Event Edit still sees the note). Everything else is fine...so waht's the deal? My workaround has been to go into Event Edit, delete the first (quantized) note, then use Sequence Add to add in the note again, making certain I DO NOT quantize the note? Again, what's the deal? I don't have this issue on the original EPS... Chas From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Wed May 6 16:14:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 May 92 16:13 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA17125; Thu, 7 May 1992 09:13:40 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA06591; Thu, 7 May 92 09:13:38 EST Date: Thu, 7 May 92 09:13:38 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9205062313.AA06591@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Flash RAM and the EPS >From pdel@ads.com Thu May 7 06:29:23 1992 Received: from physics.su.OZ.AU (suphys.ARPA) by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA06395; Thu, 7 May 92 06:29:21 EST Received: from reed.edu by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA16202; Thu, 7 May 1992 06:29:16 +1000 Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 May 92 12:58 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA07396; Wed, 6 May 92 12:59:43 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA26263; Wed, 6 May 92 12:59:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 May 92 12:59:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9205061959.AA26263@deimos.ads.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Ensoniq Clinic in CA Status: R >Of course I asked if an EPS-32 was coming out, and the guy (Bob Wehrman) said >"nope, no way, we're not coming out with that, can't be done", etc. etc. >So it really sounded like he was telling the truth, but of course, who can >tell? Standard Operational Procedure. If you say "we have a new improved product due in six months" no one will buy you current product: they'll wait for the new one. Ensoniq was advertising the EPS right up to when the EPS16+ came out. >One thing he did say was that the next thing to look for from Ensoniq is the >use of virtual memory. He said we'll probably see something like a 100+mb >Flashram-type of setup. This is supposedly based on the latest memory chip >from Intel - anyone with more info on that correct me if that's wrong, but it >sounds like they want to get the hard drive capabilities onto one of those >chips and stick it in the EPS. Intel say they've increased the storage capacity of flash ram to the extent where it will soon replace hard disks on notebook computers. That of course was their main selling point, notebooks being a boom area. So yes, Intel have the means to make this possible. >And now, back to your regular program, etc., blah-blah-blah. >PD From cup.portal.com!ceej Wed May 6 19:52:16 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.83.245.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Wed, 6 May 92 19:52 PDT Return-Path: Received: by nova.unix.portal.com (5.65b/4.1 1.100) id AA26935; Wed, 6 May 92 19:52:07 -0700 Received: by portal.unix.portal.com (1.243) id AA08150; Wed, 6 May 92 19:52:05 -0700 Received: by hobo.corp.portal.com (4.1/4.0.3 1.14) id AA02487; Wed, 6 May 92 19:52:04 PDT To: eps@reed.edu From: ceej@cup.portal.com Subject: Re: Syquest problems Lines: 23 Date: Wed, 6 May 92 19:52:03 PDT Message-Id: <9205061952.1.1865@cup.portal.com> X-Origin: The Portal System (TM) Thanks for all the tips you guys have given me! I have narrowed the culprit down considerably (I think). I am now successfully accessing the Syquest with the following setup: EPS------Syquest------Seagate SCSI 0 SCSI 1 And it will boot off the Syquest. BUT, the wierd thing is that both the Syquest AND Seagate have the terminating resistors installed! IT seems that the whole time the Syquest's resistor pack was not registering (and still is not). Yes, I checked that the terminating resistors were in the right way (dot at pin one), and even reversed them (then I got a "DEVICE NOT READY" or somesuch from the EPS). Now, if at all possible I would like to run with JUST the Syquest since the Seagate is quite NOISY (plus it's pretty unreliable). Do I have some bogus terminating resistors? Are terminator resistors all the same? Could I just move the terminating resistors from the Seagate to the Syquest to determine if the Syquest's resistors are bad? Thanks, Ceej. From itd.nrl.navy.mil!adamson Thu May 7 06:17:02 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.60.2.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 May 92 06:15 PDT Received: by itd.nrl.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21811; Thu, 7 May 92 09:15:52 EDT From: adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Brian Adamson) Message-Id: <9205071315.AA21811@itd.nrl.navy.mil> Subject: Disabling "local" response to pitch bend To: eps@reed.edu Date: Thu, 7 May 92 9:15:49 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] This may be a stupid question...but I haven't figured out how to stop the pitch bend wheel on the EPS 16+ from affecting all instruments (though their status is set to 'MIDI' only and they aren't even selected) loaded in the EPS when controlling an external sound module.. For example, My Mac is playing a piano sequence using the 16+ as a sound source (I have the piano in Track 1 slot, w/ status set to 'MIDI' only) In the EPS Track 8 slot, I have a MIDI instrument to control a TG77 sound module) OK, so the piano sequence is playing, I play the keyboard and the TG77 sounds off as it's supposed to. But, when I use the pitch bend wheel the piano's pitch changes along w/ the TG77's pitch. How do I fix this? -- Brian Adamson NRL Code 5523 adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil From tramp.Colorado.EDU!ecen4583 Thu May 7 12:26:33 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.138.129.4 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 May 92 12:26 PDT Received: by tramp.Colorado.EDU id AA17454 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/CNS-2.1 for eps@reed.edu); Thu, 7 May 1992 13:26:19 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 13:26:19 -0600 From: Ali Allen Message-Id: <199205071926.AA17454@tramp.Colorado.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu, studer@physics.su.OZ.AU Subject: Re: Flash RAM and the EPS >Intel say they've increased the storage capacity of flash ram to the extent >>where it will soon replace hard disks on notebook computers. That of course was >their main selling point, notebooks being a boom area. So yes, Intel have the means to make this possible. Unfortunately for us, flash is extremely expensive. 20MB of flash ram cost twice as much as 200MB of hard drive!! -Ali Allen ecen4583@tramp.Colorado.edu From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Thu May 7 13:15:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 May 92 13:15 PDT Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA23336; Thu, 7 May 92 13:15:09 -0700 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.7/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA20195; Thu, 7 May 92 14:15:05 -0600 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9205072015.AA20195@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: Flash RAM and the EPS To: ecen4583@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Ali Allen) Date: Thu, 7 May 92 14:15:04 MDT Cc: eps@reed.edu, studer@physics.su.OZ.AU In-Reply-To: <199205071926.AA17454@tramp.Colorado.EDU>; from "Ali Allen" at May 7, 92 1:26 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.33] > > >Intel say they've increased the storage capacity of flash ram to the extent > >>where it will soon replace hard disks on notebook computers. That of course was > >their main selling point, notebooks being a boom area. So yes, Intel have the > means to make this possible. > Unfortunately for us, flash is extremely expensive. 20MB of flash ram cost > twice as much as 200MB of hard drive!! > > -Ali Allen > ecen4583@tramp.Colorado.edu > > Yeah, it is really expensive, although it's coming down pretty fast. According to a recent EE Times article, Intel just announced a 20-Mbyte FLASH card that will be priced in the $600 range. That still makes it pretty expensive compared to hard drives, but pretty reasonable compared to current RAM prices. I'm not sure what the $600 would translate to after Ensoniq had stamped their name on it, marked it up, and channeled it through all of their dealers. It would probably end up costing quite a bit more. It still is getting cheaper than it was. I forget how much they're charging for the 1 Meg of flashbank memory on the EPS-16+'s now, but I believe it's in the several 100's of dollars range. Being non-volatile is a big plus too, I end up leaving my EPS on overnight a lot simply because I don't want to go through the hassle of loading up all the samples again the next day. Being able to shut the thing off, and having it power up with whatever was in memory from the previous day would be a cool feature. I guess FLASH would never really be used for anything but secondary storage though... since it only erases in huge chunks (sectors) at a time, and it wears out after too many read and writes. =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From ads.com!pdel Thu May 7 13:40:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 May 92 13:39 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA16716; Thu, 7 May 92 13:38:42 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA04320; Thu, 7 May 92 13:38:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 May 92 13:38:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9205072038.AA04320@deimos.ads.com> To: kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com Subject: Re: Flash RAM and the EPS Cc: eps@reed.edu > I end up leaving my EPS on overnight a lot I think I read in the Hacker that someone burned out his display from doing this. Is that possible? It sounded like he just left it one for months. I'd like to leave mine on a lot, but because of hearing about this I haven't been. > it wears out after too many read and writes. (talking about FlashRam). How much is 'too many reads and writes?' Is it like 5 years, etc., or sooner? PD From cco.caltech.edu!tod Thu May 7 16:05:14 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.215.48.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 May 92 16:05 PDT Received: from bartman.cco.caltech.edu by tybalt.caltech.edu (4.1/1.34.1) id AA05802; Thu, 7 May 92 16:04:59 PDT Date: Thu, 7 May 92 16:04:59 PDT From: tod@cco.caltech.edu (Tod Edward Kurt) Message-Id: <9205072304.AA05802@tybalt.caltech.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS display burn-in Since I too leave my EPS16+ on for extended periods, I was wondering if any one wanted to hack-up a "screen saver" for the EPS. ;-) like: after 5 minutes of no activity, it'll do little pretty flashy-things on the screen and blink its lights. Sure would be an attention-getter at the store! -Tod From ads.com!pdel Thu May 7 16:29:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 May 92 16:29 PDT Received: from deimos.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA18285; Thu, 7 May 92 16:30:06 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by deimos.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA05883; Thu, 7 May 92 16:30:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 May 92 16:30:05 -0700 Message-Id: <9205072330.AA05883@deimos.ads.com> To: tod@cco.caltech.edu Subject: Re: EPS display burn-in Cc: eps@reed.edu >I was wondering if any one wanted to hack-up a "screen saver" for the EPS. Or how about a retrofit dimmer knob for the display. Sounds like we need to start a 'suggestions for future enhancements' list going. pdel From physics.su.OZ.AU!studer Thu May 7 21:08:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.78.129.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Thu, 7 May 92 21:08 PDT Received: from alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU by physics.su.OZ.AU (5.61+IDA+MU/1.34) id AA19565; Fri, 8 May 1992 14:08:07 +1000 Received: by alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU (4.1/5.17) id AA09366; Fri, 8 May 92 14:08:05 EST Date: Fri, 8 May 92 14:08:05 EST From: studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) Message-Id: <9205080408.AA09366@alfven.physics.su.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS classic )S 4.9 (again) As another satisfied customer of altosax.reed.edu, I thought it'd be useful if someone uploaded disk images of OS 2.49 to this site. Yes, I know it's in digest 11, but I had trouble making the programs in this work, whereas I got the files downloaded from altosax to work first time. The efforts of people to upload PD samples are much appreciated. Not all of us have access to huge sample libraries supported by music shops, or we've exhausted their supplies long ago. As a matter of interest, what's the size of this site? How many gigabytes can we upload ? :-) I'll have to extract my digit and submit some of mine, including my absolute favourite, a ripoff of the Vangelis "horn" sound. From cco.caltech.edu!jaywb Fri May 8 04:42:13 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.215.48.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 8 May 92 04:41 PDT Received: from bartman.cco.caltech.edu by tybalt.caltech.edu (4.1/1.34.1) id AA13546; Fri, 8 May 92 04:41:25 PDT Date: Fri, 8 May 92 04:41:25 PDT From: jaywb@cco.caltech.edu (Jay William Bromley) Message-Id: <9205081141.AA13546@tybalt.caltech.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: OMI demo disks Hi all, I finally got those disks from OMI. You know, the ones that they offered for free for filling out their survey in TH? Anyway, sort of confirmed my suspicions that CD-ROM for a sampler might be sort of useless (IMHO). I'll post a somewhat complete review tomorrow after I get some sleep (unless someone beats me to it.) Regards, Jay (I was going to post it tonight but had a sudden attack of narcolep.... From comm.mot.com!chucksi Fri May 8 07:35:35 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.188.136.100 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 8 May 92 07:35 PDT Received: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08732; Fri, 8 May 92 09:34:19 CDT Received: from comm.mot.com ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08564; Fri, 8 May 92 09:34:16 CDT Received: from stc.comm.mot.com (stc018.stc.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00622; Fri, 8 May 92 09:42:09 CDT Received: by stc.comm.mot.com ( 5.52 (84)/5.17) id AA09731; Fri, 8 May 92 09:33:04 CDT Date: Fri, 8 May 92 09:33:04 CDT From: chucksi@comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu) Message-Id: <9205081433.AA09731@stc.comm.mot.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Quantize Bug? Every time I use Quantize Track, it ends up compressing the first note into an unit unintelligible blip that has to be deleted using event edit. This only applies to the first note or chord of the first beat of the sequence, and the rest of the sequence is fine. Has anyone had this problem with the 16+? Chuck Siu From wri.com!andre Fri May 8 10:40:06 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 140.177.10.12 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 8 May 92 10:39 PDT Received: from rurutu.wri.com by dragonfly.wri.com with SMTP id AA06824 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for eps@reed.edu); Fri, 8 May 1992 12:39:22 -0500 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 8 May 92 12:36:05 -0500 From: andre@wri.com Message-Id: <9205081736.AA03179@rurutu.wri.com> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63.RR) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Termination Don't know if this helps or adds confusion, but I run a Liberty 80 meg hard drive on my EPS 16+, and the only way to get it to work was to run it *without* termination. I believe there was a parity jumper that I had to remove from the drive as well. I run it with a short cable (3 ft). Has been running swell since. AK From gear.sublink.org!forum!work Fri May 8 12:56:24 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.6.21.9 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Fri, 8 May 92 12:48 PDT Received: from modus.UUCP by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA19334; Fri, 8 May 92 14:44:35 EDT Received: by modus.sublink.ORG (/\==/\ Smail3.1.20.1 #20.7) id ; Fri, 8 May 92 20:34 MET Received: by otello.sublink.org (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.17.5 #17.3 / deliver 2.0.11) id ; Fri, 8 May 92 20:30 GMT Received: by gear.sublink.ORG (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1 / Deliver 2.0.12) id ; Fri, 8 May 92 19:35 MEST From: work@forum.sublink.org (Andrea Gozzi) X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: MIDI SAMPLE DUMP STANDARD & EPS16 Date: Thu, 7 May 92 19:48:57 met Message-Id: <9205071948.aa05097@forum.sublink.org> I have just bought a Kurzweil K2000. For those who don't know it, it's a (mega) synth with the ability to accept up to 64Meg RAM for samples. Well, you know there are those veeeery beautiful samples on the EPS16, and as my K2000 still hasn't the sampling board installed (i don't think it's even sold yet), i am interested in a program to dump the EPS16+ samples to the K2000, which accepts midi sample dump standard. No, this is not a request for such a program. I've just written it, but..... there are troubles in getting the sample data from EPS16. It sounds almost right, with some orrible gargles in the loops, as the loop start and end wouldn't match (but they match, because i can check and edit the loop parameters on the k2000). Considerations: 1) The EPS16 seems to consider the 16 bit samples as a signed short,i.e. the zero value is zero (this phrase seems stupid to me too, btw). Does the midi dump std, use 0x8000 as reference point (0) or does it use 0x0000?? 2) I'm using a package of sysex functions written by Andrew Arensburger There are some bugs, as the sample start and sample ends return multiplied by 512 (or is it related to the non integer loop capabilities??), and the sample rate return value is simply non-sense. Doesn't anyone have a sane spec of the EPS16 sysex commands? (here in Italy, the dealers have not the sysex manual...). If, when, (how?) it'l be finished, i'll release it to PD, as it's really a stupid thing to implement, but can be very useful to people who asked for EPS16+ ---> other samplers data transfers. Andrea Gozzi From Juliet.Caltech.Edu!jaywb Sat May 9 02:39:09 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.215.51.153 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 9 May 92 02:38 PDT Date: Sat, 9 May 92 02:42:11 PDT From: jaywb@Juliet.Caltech.Edu Message-Id: <920509024211.21404012@Juliet.Caltech.Edu> Subject: OMI Demo sounds... To: eps@reed.edu X-ST-Vmsmail-To: IN%"eps@reed.edu" Alright, so I got those demo sounds from OMI with a letter stating that they're sorry for the delay but didn't expect the number of respondants to the survey that they got. So on to the sounds. The instrument is called Sonic FX 6. It is one large instrument (4063 blocks!) which includes 16 different sounds. The sounds range from a few tribal sounding percussion instruments to a Synclavier metallic whoosh to some space-like sounds. The sounds themselves are all immaculately sampled at 44.1 kHz, are as the sounds are percussive looping is not made use of here. Some of the sounds I deemed to be interesting enough to extract the pertinent wavesamples from the 4063 block monster and make their own instruments. Sounds are all velocity sensitive and use the patch selects to play the samples an octave lower or backwards. Overall, the modulation programming wasn't overly fantastic. The one thing I noted was that if these sounds were supposed to make me want to buy a CD-ROM for my 16+ then they failed miserably. While the samples are clean and some of the sounds are fairly interesting, the fact that the instrument was 4000+ blocks means that anything you find interesting will have to be extracted and saved to an instrument, unless you've got several 16+'s to waste on one instrument a piece. On this same note, since I seldom use a sound 'straight out of the box,' (and I think most people are like this - correct me if I'm wrong) anything I wanted to use would have to be copied to disk so I thought why not get the sounds on magdisk and thus be done with it. If the sounds are broken into individual instruments, these would be far more useful (I'm not sure, but maybe they are on the actual CD-ROM disc, I got the impression they were not.) So that's what I thought, any comments? By the way, is anyone interested in reviews of 3D Sounds stuff. I've got a number of their disks, so if anyone is interested... Regards, Jay From sndcrft.dialix.oz.au!steveq Sat May 9 18:21:59 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 9 May 92 18:21 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA10616; Sun, 10 May 1992 11:21:31 +1000 (from steveq@sndcrft.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA06051; Sun, 10 May 1992 09:21:29 +0800 Received: from sndcrft by DIALix.oz.au id aa27437; Sat, 9 May 92 23:53:36 WST Received: by sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Rodney's UUCP modules 14/09/90 V1.16) id ; Sun May 10 23:49:32 1992 Message-Id: <3176412@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au> From: steveq@sndcrft.DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) Organization: Sound Craft Creative Music X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 14/09/90 V1.16 Subject: My new address. 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