From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Tue Apr 7 18:09:49 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:06 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA23625; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:05:01 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:05:01 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9204080105.AA23625@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Holiday? Is it a holiday period in the states or something? eps@reed has suddenly gone dead in aus. Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Tue Apr 7 18:18:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:17 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA23654; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:16:14 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:16:14 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9204080116.AA23654@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: CD review... For those of you who don't brave the rec.music.synth group... FROM: rec.music.synth... BY: Ross-c Sampling CD review: Simon Harris: Beats, Breaks, and Scratches, Vol 8. (subtitled: The Ultimate Breakbeat Collection) This CD is rather "special purpose", so first I'll give a very quick overview. It is a standard CD price (15 pounds RRP, I paid 12.49) sample CD, which is short, and doesn't have a very large amound of material. It is pointed directly at "DJs and Producers". The CD has 13 breakbeats, which are not single cycles, but have been looped and extended out to three minute tracks. It then has 49 "sound bites" sampled from dance music, television, videos etc. Total time about 43 minutes (from my memory). [Quick overview ends] Since there are only thirteen breakbeats I'll comment on each seperately. (1) Bananas, a fairly funky beat, which sounds like it was sampled from the intro from Nenah Cherry's "Buffalo Stance". (2) Different screams. Sounds like a fairly standard 8-beat, with man and woman's screams. Even if you overlay your own music over the top, the screams (actually UH! and laughter) will probably be too repetitive. (3) Fastjazz. Drum beat only, the title says it all. (4) Africa. Drum beat with small amount of flute comping audible. Flute is quiet enough to avoid the problems with (2) (5) Muthabeats. 70's style funk with bass and guitar comping, up-tempo. (6) Wha-cha saying. Much more modern funk. Probably one of the coolest things I have ever heard. Synth bass (?) + guitar + synth. (7) Protest break. Train sound is a bit annoying. (8) Autobeats. More mainstream funk, with bass + guitar. (9) Camp Kutchi Loop. African funk. (10) Black Beat. Long (8 bars) loop of highly cliche' heavy metal. With bass + heavy guitar. (11) Don't mess. Sounds like a drum solo excerpt. Fast. (12) Ska bassline. As the title says. (13) Goodfoot. Moderate paced funk + UH! Could this be James Brown? These loops start suddenly, and fade out at the end. I think that this CD can be classed in a grey area between pure sample CDs and normal music. I have come up with many non-sampling uses for these loops, practicing solos on guitar improvisation of songs, rap, etc. Also, you can listen to the CD in its own right. Sort of like a minimalist record for the dance set. More variation than Thursday Afternoon (:-) ). The remainder of the CD has 49 samples. Most of these are from funk and rap records. Some variations on UH, yo, etc. A lot of sound bites have been taken from movies, etc. Pretty standard stuff, nothing really stands out. Some of the samples are rather long, and the resulting sample files can be megabytes at high sampling rates. Musical excerpts include a fair number of drum rolls, vocal hits etc. Standout samples are a usuable "Don't touch that dial", and an old television "But we had one more important sound we wanted you to hear". Many of these sound-effects are clipped sharply at the beginnings and ends, and, since they were sampled off vinyl there is quite a bit of noise in the background. I found I have to put "fadeouts" at the ends of the samples to avoid clicks. But this may be my relative lack of sampling experience. As a final word, I would say that this CD is OK to good value for money. Given that its' price is less than a third of other sample CDs, and that you don't really get as much as you do on other CDs. The looped tracks mean that this CD could well be of interest to non-sampler owners (who won't be reading this anyway). [End of review] I am still collecting Sample CD reviews, if you have any, please send a review to: ross-c@dcs.leeds.ac.uk Thanx! Ross-c _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rigel.cs.pdx.edu!tauren Tue Apr 7 18:42:25 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 131.252.20.103 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:41 PDT Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by pdxgate.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-gateway-evision: 1.23 id AA29105; Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:41:02 PDT Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by rigel.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-client-evision: 1.17 id AA25177; Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:55:01 PDT Message-Id: <9204080055.AA25177@rigel.cs.pdx.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Hard drive idea In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 06 Apr 92 13:31:56 -0700. <9204062031.AA20369@tybalt.caltech.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 17:55:00 PDT From: tauren@rigel.cs.pdx.edu In message <9204062031.AA20369@tybalt.caltech.edu> jay writes: > >Hi all, > So I was recently reorganizing my hard drive (lovely job, glad i don't >have a gigabyte drive or something like that) and I was trying to set up >jaywb@tybalt.caltech.edu This gave me an idea for all you people writing EDM type software. Wouldn't it be nice if we could plug our SCSI EPS hard drives into our PC's SCSI and then have an EDM-like program read the hard drive in EPS format. Copying, moving, erasing, etc would all be much simpler then. Could this be done by just adding the EPS & its drive to your SCSI chain(and writing the software, of course!)? Just a thought, anyway. Maybe in a future version... (BTW-I don't have a hard drive yet, but I am planning on buying a removable type to use with both my PC and EPS 16+) Later, Tauren From hpgrrd.gr.hp.com!daver Tue Apr 7 21:43:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 92 21:43 PDT Received: from hpgrrd.gr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA18709; Tue, 7 Apr 92 21:43:29 -0700 Received: by hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA03815; Tue, 7 Apr 92 22:43:16 mdt Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 22:43:16 mdt From: Dave Ruska Message-Id: <9204080443.AA03815@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS club leader - RESULTS Cc: daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com Scott writes: > Is it a holiday period in the states or something? eps@reed has suddenly > gone dead in aus. > Scott. Yup. It's some kind of holiday allright. Not sure which one though.... ____________________________________________________________________________ RESULTS OF THE 1992 eps@reed.edu CLUB LEADER ELECTION. ____________________________________________________________________________ Newsman's commentary: "Voter turnout was low due to an unknown state-side holiday..." Now, the results: Second runner up: "anyone who is willing and able" (One vote) First runner up: "Joe Niski" (One vote) AND THE WINNER IS: #### #### #### ##### ##### # # # # # # # #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #### #### #### # # ###### # #### # # ###### ##### # # # # # # # # ##### # #### ###### ##### # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # # # # # # #### # # ###### # # "Scott Fisher" (10 Votes) First I'd like to thank the select few (NOT on vacation) who were able to vote: aieta@drum.ils.nwu.edu bkirsch@NADC.NAVY.MIL (Barry Kirsch) bordner@csrd.uiuc.edu (James Bordner) conley@uservx.plk.af.mil (Bob Conley) daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (Dave Ruska) kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (Kelly Larson) leigh@psychok.dialix.oz.au (Leigh Smith) m3a@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu ( Mike Allinger) niski@reed.edu (Joe Niski) << no, he did not vote for himself >> pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) peters@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Dan Peters) steveq@DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) (I hope I didn't miss anyone) Some additional commentary from the voting members concerning someone to "lead" this mailing list: "I concur (and I agree with you too! :-)" "Anyway, I agree that someone should be in charge of organizing things, delegating responsibilities, etc..." "... How about a committee of 2-5 volunteers to decide things like file formats & directory structure?" "... And I vote for a Proteus group!" And now the list of people volunteering for the ftp/etc subcommittee work: ( the Board of Directors?) Joe Niski (niski@reed.edu) Ed Roth (ERoth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.edu) Steve Q. (steveq@DIALix.oz.au) Mike Allinger (m3a@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu) Dave Ruska (daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com) Now we can all sit back and wait (patiently) for Scott Fisher's acceptance speech. He wouldn't turn down leading such a fine mailing list would he ? (Joe - should Scott turn us down YOU would take over full duties as "leader" of this fine mailing list....) Regards, Dave R. From ads.com!pdel Tue Apr 7 23:36:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:35 PDT Received: from bert.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA03079; Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:35:21 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by bert.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA19619; Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:35:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:35:10 -0700 Message-Id: <9204080635.AA19619@bert.ads.com> To: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au Subject: Re: Holiday? Cc: eps@reed.edu >Is it a holiday period in the states or something? eps@reed has suddenly gone dead in aus. That's what I thought too; I think everyone got worn out with the recent surge of activity, then depressed when we lost our 'ftp' site. But not to worry. I'm confident everyone's resting up for the next round. :) PD From ads.com!pdel Tue Apr 7 23:39:32 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.229.30.16 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:39 PDT Received: from bert.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA03095; Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:39:13 -0700 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by bert.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA19627; Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:39:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:39:11 -0700 Message-Id: <9204080639.AA19627@bert.ads.com> To: tauren@rigel.cs.pdx.edu Subject: Re: Hard drive idea Cc: eps@reed.edu > Wouldn't it be nice if we could plug our SCSI EPS hard drives into our PC's SCSI and then have an EDM-like program read the hard drive in EPS format. Not only that, it would eclipse the 'copy/backup/restore' function whcih (which) has been due from Ensoniq for HOW MANY YEARS???? I'm sure if that were tacked on to anyone's EDM hack, it would be MOST welcome, heck, I bet the guy would be famous, at least in this news group. PD From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Wed Apr 8 01:59:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 130.95.176.1 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Wed, 8 Apr 92 01:59 PDT Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA25173; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:58:15 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:58:15 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9204080858.AA25173@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Scott-thingy-speaks Who is... #### #### #### ##### ##### # # # # # # # #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #### #### #### # # ###### # #### # # ###### ##### # # # # # # # # ##### # #### ###### ##### # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # # # # # # #### # # ###### # # ???? For all you guy's know I could be an artificial intelligence program written by Ensoniq and loaded into a computer somewhere in Australia to give the company a good name :-) > "... How about a committee of 2-5 volunteers to decide things > like file formats & directory structure?" I agree with this Idea. > And now the list of people volunteering for the ftp/etc subcommittee > work: ( the Board of Directors?) > > Joe Niski (niski@reed.edu) > Ed Roth (ERoth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.edu) > Steve Q. (steveq@DIALix.oz.au) > Mike Allinger (m3a@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu) > Dave Ruska (daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com) Scott Fisher (scott@wapsy.uwa.oz) How about if I quietly add my name to the bottom of this list... > Now we can all sit back and wait (patiently) for Scott Fisher's > acceptance speech. He wouldn't turn down leading such a fine > mailing list would he ? (Joe - should Scott turn us down YOU > would take over full duties as "leader" of this fine mailing list....) I'd like to suggest Joe, head the subcommittee and I humbly take a place on it. How's that sound? Really, as I am in Australia and 98% of the eps@reed members are in the USA, I think it would make more sense to have Joe co-ordinating the ftp comittee thingy...because, A) Joe is in charge of the mailing list anyway, B) He's in a closer time-zone to most of you (I'm not even in the same day, I live 13-17 hours into the FUTURE :-) Gee I'm not even sure if I'm spelling comittee correctly, how am I supposed to make executive decisions :-) Thanks to the 10 people who voted for me...I'm most honoured. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ualr.edu!jabussey Wed Apr 8 06:24:30 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Wed, 8 Apr 92 06:24 PDT Received: from gamma.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 08:24 CDT Received: by UALR.EDU (MX V3.1) id 10405; Wed, 08 Apr 1992 08:22:58 EDT Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 08:22:38 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: RE: Scott-thingy-speaks Sender: jabussey@ualr.edu To: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au Cc: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <00958C9D.F5B01700.10405@UALR.EDU> Sorry scott, I didn't think you would want the added responsibility of group leader! Hell, I'd just a soon vote you president of the U.S.!! (But then again what FOOL wants the job?) Oh, BTW I AM an artificial program put out on the net to antagoinize (sp?) scott by Roland! hahahahah Jacque From hpgrrd.gr.hp.com!daver Wed Apr 8 07:19:29 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 15.255.152.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.20) id ; Wed, 8 Apr 92 07:17 PDT Received: from hpgrrd.gr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA25671; Wed, 8 Apr 92 07:17:46 -0700 Received: by hpgrrd.gr.hp.com (15.11/15.5+IOS 3.20) id AA05380; Wed, 8 Apr 92 08:17:32 mdt Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 08:17:32 mdt From: Dave Ruska Message-Id: <9204081417.AA05380@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EDM format published? Cc: daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com > From: Steve Quartly > To: eps@reed.edu > Subject: EDM file formats > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 92 10:15:55 WST > Hi gang, > Ok I have the file formats for the EDM software. I got it from Gary Geibler > himself, as I rang him in New York late one night my time, early his time. ... > Would I be allowed to give them out, I would think so, however I think > it may be better that I check with Gary first, as the software is copyright > and Id hate to get caught out. Steve, did you check with Gary and can you give this out ? There are at least a few of us waiting to see the format so we can write our platform specific EDM formatting and unformatting programs so we all can use a common file format. Can Gary's format be published, or do we all need to personally call him to get the info ? > Steve Q. > Perth, Australia.] Regards, Dave R. From ualr.edu!jabussey Sat Apr 11 06:30:18 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 144.167.10.38 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 11 Apr 92 06:28 PDT Received: from rigel.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Sat, 11 Apr 1992 08:28 CDT Received: by ualr.edu (MX V3.1) id 4113; Sat, 11 Apr 1992 08:27:39 EDT Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 08:27:29 EDT From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: UUencodeing? Sender: jabussey@ualr.edu To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <00958EFA.21DD30C0.4113@ualr.edu> Why are we uuencodeing these files? I think it most we should compress them on the pc, upload to the network and binary ftp the files to the site. I think tarring and compressing on the UNIX is even better! Because you have untar and decompression programs for the PC!!! Jacque jabussey@ualr.edu From DIALix.oz.au!steveq Sat Apr 11 09:38:54 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.250.1.21 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 11 Apr 92 09:38 PDT Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA22274; Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:38:29 +1000 (from steveq@DIALix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA14319; Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:38:26 +0800 From: steveq@DIALix.oz.au (Steve Quartly) X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 0:14:31 WST Message-Id: <9204120014.aa08127@DIALix.oz.au> > Why are we uuencodeing these files? I think it most we should compress them > on the pc, upload to the network and binary ftp the files to the site. I think > tarring and compressing on the UNIX is even better! Because you have > untar and decompression programs for the PC!!! > Jacque Unfortunately the PC isn't the only personal computer around (wouldn't life be so much easier if it was!!:-) consequently we have to allow for other systems that don't support untar. Also, not everyone has direct ftp access (me included :-( ) so uuencoding is necessary, but at which stage in the process?? These questions and more need to be answer so we EPS users can set ourselves up a well designed & well maintained database for all our EPS files. If ANYBODY has any suggestions on what they would like to see in THEIR database or how it is run, or how the directories should be set-up etc... PLEASE post a message on the mailing list. We have the opportunity here to set up an incredible medium for all to use to support our 'EPS Habit!!' so it would be good to get it right the first time. What do you think? Steve Quartly Perth, Western Australia steveq@DIALix.oz.au From mentor.cc.purdue.edu!greenejl Sat Apr 11 14:48:19 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 128.210.10.8 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 11 Apr 92 14:47 PDT Received: by mentor.cc.purdue.edu (5.61/Purdue_CC) id AA03057; Sat, 11 Apr 92 16:47:55 -0500 From: greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Greene) Message-Id: <9204112147.AA03057@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Standard MIDI question To: eps@reed.edu (Ensoniq EPS Mailing List) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 16:47:55 EST Hi! Could someone please explain the relationship of MPU401 to 6850 UART? I think the MPU401 is a standard MIDI interface for IBM (and other?) computers. I don't know what 6850 UART is (please tell me). Thank you, Jon Greene greenejl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu From descartes.waterloo.edu!rjfennem Sat Apr 11 15:04:11 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 129.97.140.253 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sat, 11 Apr 92 15:04 PDT Received: by descartes.waterloo.edu id ; Sat, 11 Apr 92 18:03:55 -0400 From: Ryan Fennema Message-Id: <9204112203.AA13981@descartes.waterloo.edu> Subject: Compression Format.... To: eps@reed.edu Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 18:03:53 EDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I propose that we let the "other" (non-ibm) formats have a say in the choice of compression type. Basically, the software exists for the IBM to uncompress anything ... .pak, .zip, .arc, .lzh, .zoo, .Z, .tar, etc. Many of the "others" may not be so fortunate. I'm willing to accomodate their compression format of choice. Steve Q. has suggested .arc for Atari...... Just a thought, Ryan (an ibm type guy). From compulink.co.uk!mmdf Sun Apr 12 01:34:15 1992 Return-Path: Received: from 192.91.199.2 by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Sun, 12 Apr 92 01:34 PDT Received: from bugs.specialix.co.uk by eros.uknet.ac.uk via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id <7850-0@eros.uknet.ac.uk>; Sun, 12 Apr 1992 09:34:27 +0100 Received: from compulink.co.uk by specialix.co.uk id aa11121; Sun, 12 Apr 92 8:29:01 GMT Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 09:27 GMT From: Toby Hart Dyke Subject: Compression type To: eps@reed.edu Reply-To: thart@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Ryan Fennema writes: >Basically, the software exists for the IBM to uncompress anything ... >.pak, .zip, .arc, .lzh, .zoo, .Z, .tar, etc. I use an ST, and could uncompress any of those except .pak. We could also add .arj to the above list. >Steve Q. has suggested .arc for Atari...... Arc is a bit "lowest-common-denominator" in that everyone would (should?) be able to uncompress an arc file. Lzh is a good format, but there do seem to be an awful lot of incompatibilities between various versions on a single machine, let alone between platforms... Unless people are desparate for the smallest file-size possible (I wouldn't mind - I do pay for my connect time!) then perhaps arc is the way to go. Otherwise, I'll admit a fondness for .zoo or .Z :-) >Just a thought, >Ryan (an ibm type guy). Toby (an ST kind of guy)