From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Sun Mar 15 17:52:21 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Sun, 15 Mar 92 17:51 PST Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA09344; Mon, 16 Mar 1992 09:50:39 +0800 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1992 09:50:39 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9203160150.AA09344@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: mencken.eps I was browsing the "incoming" directory at reed.edu the other day (over the week-end) and I noticed a file called "mencken.eps" I must have missed something...after having a look at it it looks like a program for something. What is it? Thanks Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cs.mu.OZ.AU!richard Sun Mar 15 20:24:23 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Sun, 15 Mar 92 20:24 PST Received: from localhost by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA15957 Mon, 16 Mar 1992 14:24:02 +1000 (from richard@cs.mu.OZ.AU) Message-Id: <9203160424.15957@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Canonical Bug List Date: Mon, 16 Mar 92 14:24:02 +1000 From: Richard Hagen Does such a thing exist? I've been flipping through the EPS list archives and have seen some references to bugs, but no compendious collection appears to have been assembled in one place. richard Department of Computer Science /*\__/\ ``I have seen the future, University of Melbourne < \ and it is very much like the Parkville, Vic., 3052, AUSTRALIA \ _ _/ present. Only longer.'' Ph: (03) 344 7270 Fax: 3 348 1184 \| -- - Kehlog Albran From NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL!bkirsch Mon Mar 16 06:06:42 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 92 06:06 PST Received: by NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (5.59/1.0 ) id AA13430; Mon, 16 Mar 92 09:03:36 EST Date: Mon, 16 Mar 92 09:03:36 EST From: bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (B. Kirsch) Message-Id: <9203161403.AA13430@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> To: eps@reed.edu, scott%psy.uwa.OZ.AU@seismo.css.gov Subject: Re: mencken.eps Might the .eps stand for Encapsulated PostScript? Barry Kirsch MAIL: Naval Air Warfare Center / Aircraft Division (NAWC/AD) Code 5051 Warminster PA, 18974-5000 PHONE: (215) 441-1886 FAX: (215) 441-7271 E-MAIL: bkirsch@NADC.NAVY.MIL From kong.gsfc.nasa.gov!arensb Mon Mar 16 07:43:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 92 07:43 PST Received: from kong.gsfc.nasa.gov by lego.gsfc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.35) id AA12831; Mon, 16 Mar 92 10:43:26 -0500 Received: by kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27837; Mon, 16 Mar 92 10:43:28 EST Date: Mon, 16 Mar 92 10:43:28 EST From: arensb@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Andrew Arensburger - RMS) Message-Id: <9203161543.AA27837@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: mencken.eps > From bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL Mon Mar 16 09:21:34 1992 > Might the .eps stand for Encapsulated PostScript? Yes. For those who are curious, it's a picture of Rodin's "Thinker" underneath a lightbulb (both quite nicely drawn, BTW), and the quote For every complex problem there is a simple solution which is almost invariably wrong. -- H. L. Mencken /AA/ From mips2.ma30.bull.com!peters Mon Mar 16 09:25:50 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 92 09:24 PST Received: by mips2.ma30.bull.com (5.61/1.34) id AA15851; Mon, 16 Mar 92 12:22:00 -0500 From: peters@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Dan Peters) Message-Id: <9203161722.AA15851@mips2.ma30.bull.com> Subject: Converting EPS-16 sequences to EPS To: eps@reed.edu Date: Mon, 16 Mar 92 12:21:59 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL0] Hi, I also own and EPS-M and an IBM PC clone adn Gary Giebler's Ensoniq Disk Manager (EDM) software. The EDM handles my disks formatted for my EPS AND the EPS-16. It also identifies the different files in both formats. I also have his Standard MIDI file utility to convert EPS sequences. I have successfully converted an EPS-16 sequence (from a PD EPS-16 DEMO diskette) to a standard MIDI File and back to an EPS format sequence. I have not used this software set-up too much but it seem to fit my bill (i.e. it provides a standard format for my EPS sequences). NOW I STILL have trouble playing EPS-16 samples on my EPS-M (they are supposed to be compatible). I have had to adjust the individual sample volumes to try to get a reasonably even sounding instrument across the keyboard (i.e. for a piano sample). Again I have not done too much of this (only so much spare time :-) and I know that you might have to convert a filter setting also. But, I still have no sure way of acceptably converting an EPS-16 sample for my EPS. Some work some don't. Are EPS owners locked out of the current (EPS-16) sample market? Are we limited to sampling our own from CD's and other sources? Any tips out there? -- Dan From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Mon Mar 16 19:51:51 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 92 19:51 PST Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA13662; Tue, 17 Mar 1992 11:50:19 +0800 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1992 11:50:19 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9203170350.AA13662@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sale-a-happening Hi Guys As seen in rec.music.synth... >From: rdargahi@wilkins.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Ross Dargahi) > >Ensoniq EPS16+ TURBO > - Flashbank memory > - SCSI port > - Expanded memory > - 15 disk Ensoniq sound library > >Audio Technica Mic (Great for sampling) >Surge Protector >KMD Keyboard Stand >Bunch of additional sound Disks > >Purchased May 14 1991 (copy original receipt available). I have hardly >had time to play this keyboard (this is why I am selling it) >so it is truly in mint condition. > >The whole package: 2200.00 > >serious inquiries/offers to Ross Dargahi: >email: rdargahi@bcm.tmc.edu >phone: 713-798-4649 Thought someone may be interested... Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cs.mu.OZ.AU!richard Mon Mar 16 19:53:47 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 92 19:53 PST Received: from localhost by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50); id AA13851 Tue, 17 Mar 1992 13:53:32 +1000 (from richard@cs.mu.OZ.AU) Message-Id: <9203170353.13851@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Canonical Bug List - A Proposal Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 13:53:32 +1000 From: Richard Hagen Ok, I've had NO responses about this, so I propose the following... People send me the bugs they have and I'll put a ``normalised'' list somewhere ftp-able over here. Deal? richard From ads.com!pdel Mon Mar 16 23:49:43 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 92 23:31 PST Received: from bert.ads.com by ads.com (5.65+/1.34v1.3) id AA03114; Mon, 16 Mar 92 23:30:28 -0800 From: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) Received: by bert.ads.com (5.65+/4.7) id AA03861; Mon, 16 Mar 92 23:30:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 92 23:30:26 -0800 Message-Id: <9203170730.AA03861@bert.ads.com> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Sample trading update It seemed kinda quiet regarding the sample trade plans, so thought I'd throw some chips in the fire... These are some things that we've gone over, but just to solidify some of the brainstorming. 1. Each person interested in trading should have a list of their disks. Scott Fisher and I are trading disks (Actually he's sending around 5 for every 1 that I send; I need to catch up). 2. We have one offer of a disk w/100mb minimum (the person who sent me this offer, could you verify that it is still valid by sending me/us a note; I seem to have lost your msg.), and we had a suggestion to send sigs to the moderator of louie.udel - is anyone collecting sigs, or do we need a volunteer, if so, I volunteer. 3. We haven't decided on the translation program. As of now, some people want to use EDM, others want a sysex utility that would work across all platforms. Seems like noone wants to commit to a site unless it can be accessed by all machines. Maybe we should see how many users of each machine there are. Until this decision is made, people with the same utility could do light e-mailing to each other of disks. 4. We don't know how many people are actually interested in doing this. Or do we? I count about 10, plus or minus. Is that enough to justify an ftp site? Let's have someone collect names of all interested. Again, if no volunteers, I guess I'm elected (please someone volunteer). 5. I got a DAT to use for a while! Guess what I found out, I don't know how to sample. When I recorded my wife playing her violin, and then transferred it to the EPS, it sounded like a 5th-grade oboe player with a cold. So you guys, I REALLY need to trade samples with you all! Unless you sampled a 5th-grade oboe player, I already have that one. Actually violin is just not an easy instrument to sample; I've gotten okay percussion stuff into the EPS. 6. It's now 11:30pm, I'm tired, I'm going to work. ( I really do work at night). PD From rigel.cs.pdx.edu!tauren Tue Mar 17 01:33:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 01:33 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by pdxgate.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-gateway-evision: 1.23 id AA03532; Tue, 17 Mar 92 01:32:44 PST Received: from rigel.cs.pdx.edu by rigel.cs.pdx.edu (4.1/pdx-client-evision: 1.17 id AA23277; Tue, 17 Mar 92 01:32:43 PST Message-Id: <9203170932.AA23277@rigel.cs.pdx.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Cc: tauren@rigel.cs.pdx.edu Subject: Re: Sample trading update In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 16 Mar 92 23:30:26 -0800. <9203170730.AA03861@bert.ads.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 01:32:43 PST From: tauren@rigel.cs.pdx.edu In message <9203170730.AA03861@bert.ads.com> you write: > >It seemed kinda quiet regarding the sample trade plans, so >thought I'd throw some chips in the fire... > >These are some things that we've gone over, but just to solidify >some of the brainstorming. > >1. Each person interested in trading should have a list of > their disks. So I've always wanted a good catalog of the 100 or so disks I have, but I've never had enough time. All I have is sample names, etc., but no descriptions of the sounds. Is this enough? > Scott Fisher and I are trading disks (Actually he's sending > around 5 for every 1 that I send; I need to catch up). > >2. We have one offer of a disk w/100mb minimum (the person > who sent me this offer, could you verify that it is still > valid by sending me/us a note; I seem to have lost your msg.), > and we had a suggestion to send sigs to the moderator of > louie.udel - is anyone collecting sigs, or do we need a > volunteer, if so, I volunteer. [Stuff Deleted] Please include my sig. I would be most interested in the EDM stuff since I would like all the layering/envelopes/etc saved. I don't want just raw sample dumps. Why can't the MAC folks just find a PC to do their disk translating? They could collect several files and make a trip to a PC to do a batch of EPS disks. (Please don't take offense to this, it's not meant that way. I like both PCs and MACs and see the benefits of both. I'm not a MAC flamer!) (This is of course until someone does a MAC version of EDM.) > > 4. We don't know how many people are actually interested in > doing this. Or do we? I count about 10, plus or minus. Is that > enough to justify an ftp site? I've been silent until now because I'm no EPS expert and just play with it in my spare time. But I would definately use an ftp site and I bet other silent ones out there would too. > Let's have someone collect names of all interested. Again, > if no volunteers, I guess I'm elected (please someone volunteer). > > >PD Tauren From WILKINS.IAIMS.BCM.TMC.EDU!rdargahi Tue Mar 17 07:30:33 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 07:30 PST Received: from WILKINS.IAIMS.BCM.TMC.EDU by bcm.tmc.edu (AA26620); Tue, 17 Mar 92 09:30:17 -0600 Received: by WILKINS.IAIMS.BCM.TMC.EDU (AA22849); Tue, 17 Mar 92 09:32:02 CST Message-Id: <9203171532.AA22849@WILKINS.IAIMS.BCM.TMC.EDU> From: rdargahi@wilkins.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Ross Dargahi) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1992 09:32:01 CST X-Mailer: Z-Mail (2.0.0 7/1/91) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: FOR SALE: Ensoniq EPS16+ TURBO Items for sale: Ensoniq EPS16+ TURBO - Flashbank memory - SCSI port - Expanded memory - 15 disk Ensoniq sound library Audio Technica Mic (Great for sampling) Surge Protector KMD Keyboard Stand Bunch of additional sound Disks Purchased May 14 1991 (copy original receipt available). I have hardly had time to play this keyboard (this is why I am selling it) so it is truly in mint condition. The whole package: 2200.00 serious inquiries/offers to Ross Dargahi: email: rdargahi@bcm.tmc.edu phone: 713-798-4649 From hpeskdl.fc.hp.com!kdl Tue Mar 17 08:19:26 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 08:19 PST Received: from hpeskdl.fc.hp.com by relay.hp.com with SMTP (16.6/15.5+IOS 3.13) id AA15844; Tue, 17 Mar 92 08:19:17 -0800 Received: by hpeskdl.fc.hp.com (16.7/15.5+IOS 3.22) id AA25812; Tue, 17 Mar 92 09:20:57 -0700 From: Kelly Larson Message-Id: <9203171620.AA25812@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com> Subject: Re: Sample trading update To: pdel@ads.com (Peter Delevoryas) (Peter Delevoryas) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 9:20:56 MST Cc: eps@reed.edu In-Reply-To: <9203170730.AA03861@bert.ads.com>; from "Peter Delevoryas" at Mar 16, 92 11:30 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.33] > > 1. Each person interested in trading should have a list of > their disks. > > Scott Fisher and I are trading disks (Actually he's sending > around 5 for every 1 that I send; I need to catch up). > I've got a listing of all of my samples along with descriptions if anybody's interested in sifting through them. Until we come up with a good way of swapping that's about all I can do (although I guess there's always the US Postal service.) The text file alone is almost 220K! If I compress it and shar it again it cuts it down to 92k though. About 1/5 aren't public domain, so you should ignore those. Let me know if you're interested. > 2. We have one offer of a disk w/100mb minimum (the person > who sent me this offer, could you verify that it is still > valid by sending me/us a note; I seem to have lost your msg.), > and we had a suggestion to send sigs to the moderator of > louie.udel - is anyone collecting sigs, or do we need a > volunteer, if so, I volunteer. Hmmm, there's probably several of us who could fill up that whole space with no problem. I think we either need more space, or some system of rotating samples in for a certain amount of time, and then clearing them out to make room for new ones. > 3. We haven't decided on the translation program. As of now, > some people want to use EDM, others want a sysex utility > that would work across all platforms. Seems like noone wants > to commit to a site unless it can be accessed by all machines. > Maybe we should see how many users of each machine there are. > > Until this decision is made, people with the same utility > could do light e-mailing to each other of disks. If anybody has the ability to "cat" to and from a floppy drive directly, I can send you an EPS disk image via e-mail. Then if you have an EPS formatted disk, you can type something like "cat > /dev/flpy0", or something similar depending on the name of your floppy device. This works fine on an HP workstation with a floppy attached, and I've swapped samples over e-mail doing this before (right Dave?). I'm not sure how well it works on anything else though. > 4. We don't know how many people are actually interested in > doing this. Or do we? I count about 10, plus or minus. Is that > enough to justify an ftp site? > Let's have someone collect names of all interested. Again, > if no volunteers, I guess I'm elected (please someone volunteer). Count me in! =============================================================================== /\ | / / \ | /\ Kelly Larson /\ / \ /\ | / / \ | /\/ kdl@hpeskdl.fc.hp.com / \/ \ \/\| | /-\ /-\ | |\/ \ Engineering Systems Lab / / \ / | | / / /__/ | |/ \/ Hewlett Packard Company / / / | \ / / | \ / COLORADO! / | \ / / | =============================================================================== From drum.ils.nwu.edu!aieta Tue Mar 17 09:32:27 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 09:30 PST Received: from drum.ils.nwu.edu by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA11143; Tue, 17 Mar 92 11:30:43 CST Return-Path: Received: by drum.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA11397; Tue, 17 Mar 92 11:32:11 CST From: aieta@drum.ils.nwu.edu (Michael Aieta) Message-Id: <9203171732.AA11397@drum.ils.nwu.edu> Subject: Re: Sample trading update To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 11:32:10 CDT In-Reply-To: <9203170730.AA03861@bert.ads.com>; from "Peter Delevoryas" at Mar 16, 92 11:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL13] I thought someone collected my .sig for something already, but let it be known that I am interested in the louie.del site. I could probably hold 10Meg of space to mail to people, but I don't know how to set up ftp directories. I am partial to Mac transfer programs - I have some sysex dumpers, also an AIFF reading program for the Mac. Should we start posting the names/contents of our disks. From ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj Tue Mar 17 09:46:17 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 09:46 PST Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.30jrs) id AA18041; Tue, 17 Mar 92 12:46:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 12:46:02 -0500 From: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (Me! I Disconnect from You) Message-Id: <9203171746.AA18041@en.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS FTP site -- vote of confidence from me I'm eager for it too; unfortunately, I won't be able to take advantage of it until May (at least). If time allows, I may try to make some kind of EPS-format-to-IRCAM-soundfile-format-and-back utility so that Csound can be used to process the EPS instrument data. (That won't be until this summer at the earliest!) davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu From UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU!synapse!brinkley Tue Mar 17 10:16:32 1992 Return-Path: <@UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU:brinkley@synapse> Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 10:16 PST Received: from synapse.biostr.washington.e by UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 17 Mar 92 10:16:05 PST Received: by synapse.biostr.washington.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA06268; Tue, 17 Mar 92 10:16:16 PST Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 10:16:16 PST From: brinkley@synapse.biostr.washington.edu (Jim Brinkley) Message-Id: <9203171816.AA06268@ synapse.biostr.washington.edu > Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Sample trading update Cc: brinkley I'm also one of the silent ones who's been reading this list. At home I have an EPS, an old PC with 5 1/4 drive, and soon a NeXT (I use and program a NeXT at work). I only have about 20 PD disks so I'd be very interested in downloading samples from an archive. I don't even have my PC hooked via MIDI to my EPS - I think when I get my NeXT at home , and if I ever find time, I'll look into hooking up the NeXT rather than a PC. Anyway - just wanted to let you all know I exist and would be very interested in some sort of sample archive. I'd also be interested in descriptions of the samples and comments as to how good they are - the samples in my music store are totally unorganized so its hard to know whats worth copying. Maybe further down the road there will someone out there who also has a NeXT hooked up to their EPS - right now there's virtually no music software for the NeXT but its an incredible machine and I think the potential is there. Jim Brinkley University of Washington From drum.ils.nwu.edu!aieta Tue Mar 17 11:19:37 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 11:19 PST Received: from drum.ils.nwu.edu by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (4.1/SMI-ACNS-1.03) id AA28229; Tue, 17 Mar 92 13:19:12 CST Return-Path: Received: by drum.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA11524; Tue, 17 Mar 92 13:20:41 CST From: aieta@drum.ils.nwu.edu (Michael Aieta) Message-Id: <9203171920.AA11524@drum.ils.nwu.edu> Subject: Re: Sample trading update To: eps@reed.edu Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 13:20:38 CDT In-Reply-To: <9203171834.AA16707@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu>; from "Barry Sanders" at Mar 17, 92 12:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.2 PL13] > > I need some info on these SysEx dumping utilities for the Mac. > Could somebody with a sysex program and EPS please first answer this basic question please?? Can the EPS do a sysex sample dump to any machine regardless of the standard?? > 1) Are they small enough to run on a Mac512e (800k FD)? I forget how much RAM is in an e, 1M? or does the e just mean 800k floppy but just 512K RAM? . -You might need a small system, and I guess you couldn't load a sample much bigger than whatever free RAM you had, or certainly not bigger than 800K. The only problem I can see for any size machine is the size of the samples, as some of the sysex dumpers I've seen are designed for patches and at least one - MacPatch DA has (or at least had a 32K buffer size limit) which is too small for some samples. I forget if MidiEx has a buffer limit also. . > 2) Are they PD/Shareware? MacPatch is. I've also seen MidiEx but I am not sure about it. > 3) Do they send SDS (Sample Dump Standard) files via MIDI to an EPS? > Does anyone know of or have a Mac program that conforms to this 'standard'? Does the EPS? I don't know, they basically send whatever you sent them first. > I also need info about the AIFF reader for the Mac. > I don't know what you are referring to. Alchemy or Sound Designer are expensive programs that can read/save soundfiles in a few formats, including AIFF. > > Thanks > ditto From denial.reed.edu!niski Tue Mar 17 11:56:31 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 11:56 PST Received: by denial.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.11) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 11:56 PST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 11:56 PST From: niski@reed.edu (Joe Niski) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.62) To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Re: Sample trading update > Could somebody with a sysex program and EPS please first > answer this basic question please?? > > Can the EPS do a sysex sample dump to any machine > regardless of the standard?? well, after playing with a Mac freebie called "Bulk Sysex Utility" and poring over my EPS manuals and my EPS (version 2.45 of the OS), it seems that the eps cannot _initiate_ any sysex commands. Alchemy grabs individual samples, but probably through a combination of sysex commands and an intimate knowledge of the EPS' inner workings. > > 1) Are they small enough to run on a Mac512e (800k FD)? > I forget how much RAM is in an e, 1M? or does the e just mean > 800k floppy but just 512K RAM? a Mac 512KE has 512K of ram, but is the rom equivalent of a MacPlus > > 3) Do they send SDS (Sample Dump Standard) files via MIDI to an > > EPS? > > Does anyone know of or have a Mac program that conforms to > this 'standard'? Does the EPS? i don't know the answer to either of these. Scott? > > I also need info about the AIFF reader for the Mac. > > > I don't know what you are referring to. Alchemy or Sound > Designer are expensive programs that can read/save > soundfiles in a few formats, including AIFF. there's a wonderful Macintosh utility called "SoundHack" available via anonymous ftp to mills.edu. It converts (practically) any sound format to any other (i'm currently using it to convert SoundDesigner to AIFF to NeXT *.snd files - it's quite nice). It also does a few proceesing things if you use the 68030 version; SoundHackJr. runs on 68000 Macs (the Plus & Classic), but only converts file formats. It can convert files that are far too large to load into ram! Finally: since i'm more or less responsible for this list, i'll volunteer to put together a quick survey for everyone to respond to so we can be somewhat organized about an ftp site for our sounds. i'll need a couple of days to get it together, though. --- Joe Niski niski@reed.edu Computer User Services Reed College, Portland, OR 97202 503-777-7525 "The fewer the moving parts, the less there is to go wrong." - Godley Creme From yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!eroth Tue Mar 17 12:03:01 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 12:02 PST Received: by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.1/UCB 5.61/4.03) id AA39191; Tue, 17 Mar 92 13:02:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 92 13:02:37 -0700 From: eroth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Ed Roth) Message-Id: <9203172002.AA39191@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: standards? I don't think we're arguing, but were not agreeing on file formats for trading/ftp'ing samples and sequences. I posted a while back asking some of the sysex dumpers and AIFFers how those schemes work. I recieved no answers. I got my copy of EDM yesterday and would be more than happy to trade, FTP, mail etc. with anyone using that format. I don't want to exclude anybody though, especially in the case of an FTP site. Does anybody out there have enough knowledge about these 3 file types to provide some insight toward a happy solution for us all? BTW is someone collecting .sigs for louie.udel? Take mine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Roth | These opinions is mine alone, lessen someone ERoth@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.edu | else agrees with 'em. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To admit a mistake takes a few seconds, to deny it takes a lifetime. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU!s057 Tue Mar 17 19:07:34 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 92 19:07 PST Received: from sand.sics.bu.oz (via bunyip) by munnari.oz.au with SunIII (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA17003; Wed, 18 Mar 1992 13:06:56 +1000 (from s057@sand.sics.bu.OZ.AU) Received: from sand by surf.sics.bu.oz.au (5.65b/Ultrix-32-V3.0) with SMTP id AA12531; Wed, 18 Mar 92 13:06:13 +1000 Return-Path: Received: by sand.sics.bu.oz.au (5.57/Ultrix-32-V3.0) id AA19313; Wed, 18 Mar 92 13:06:23 EST From: Stephen Gregory Message-Id: <9203180306.AA19313@sand.sics.bu.oz.au> Subject: Re:Sample Trading Update To: eps@reed.edu Date: Wed, 18 Mar 92 13:06:21 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I currently use an IBM 386 hooked into my EPS16+M, and although I don't yet have any of the software that everyone is talking about, I'm sending off my cheque in the next couple of days. I'd be really interested in an FTP site, and I have quite a few disks worth of stuff that others might be interested in, so please add my sig to your current list. Stephen Gregory School Of Information and Computing Sciences Bond University Gold Coast Australia From psychok.dialix.oz.au!leigh Thu Mar 19 08:11:41 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 92 08:10 PST Received: from uniwa.uwa.oz.au by munnari.oz.au with SMTP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA13167; Fri, 20 Mar 1992 02:10:28 +1000 (from leigh@psychok.dialix.oz.au) Received: by uniwa.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA04752; Fri, 20 Mar 1992 00:10:21 +0800 Received: from psychok by DIALix.oz.au id aa18859; Fri, 20 Mar 92 0:01:02 WST To: DIALix!eps@reed.edu Subject: Add my support for a FTP site Date: Fri Mar 20 00:01:44 1992 From: leigh@psychok.DIALix.oz.au Message-Id: <9203200001.aa18859@DIALix.oz.au> Although I haven't done anything about purchasing EDM (486 & EPS-16+ owner) I want to add my support for an FTP site. I think the arguments for a Sys-Ex as well as EDM representations of data are the tip of the iceberg. Mirage users have been wanting an FTP site also, plus other sampler owners. I happen to use Turtle Beach SampleVision, which can convert Digidesign and IRCAM sample formats as well. Perhaps we can collectively decide a format for representing Sampler instruments where the sample data is held in AIFF, IRCAM whatever (including provisions for stereo), with a related file holding each samplers instrument data (as Sys-Ex? This might not hold for all samplers). This would allow us to exchange samples between different samplers, where the user could decide whether to download both sample and instrument files - where their sampler matched that used to create the files, or just the sample data when the keyboards differ. Users could then contribute different instrument files for different samplers with common sample files. Say: instr.1 instr.2 - Sample data for each wavesample instr.3 (AIFF, IRCAM, SDS....) . . instr.s50 instr.eps - Instrument files (Sys-Ex dumps) instr.mir The common thread would therefore be the instrument filename. Perhaps this is a bit too forward looking at the moment, EDM is seems a pragmatic solution at present. To those owners of EDM, is the instrument file format produced by EDM known? For those people without Computer -> EPS, conversion programs could be written to convert from the generalised format described above to the delivery format (EDM etc etc). To me, there seems too many people with samplers & computers for us to only tackle EPS probs. Perhaps we should contact other sampler user groups (do any others exist? Mirage does, but has been quiet) for their suggestions or advice, and post to rec.music.synth. Hope there is some signal in all this noise for other readers, I lurk no more. Leigh From uhura.cc.rochester.edu!swb1_ltd Thu Mar 19 14:15:04 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 92 14:14 PST Received: by uhura.cc.rochester.edu (4.1/1.16) id AA15975; Thu, 19 Mar 92 17:14:18 EST Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 17:14:18 EST From: Steve Berkley Message-Id: <9203192214.AA15975@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: Midi Panning?! Anyone out there manage to pan instruments, say, with MIDI Faders to the EPS from a computer? I seem to be having a real problem getting it do do this- its not responding to typical controller values 8, 40, 10, or 42. I'd like to assign a fader to each instrument on the EPS 16+ so I can adjust placement in stereo from the Mac.... -Steve Berkley From psy.uwa.oz.au!scott Thu Mar 19 19:11:26 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 92 19:11 PST Received: by wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au (5.61+IDA+MU) id AA18974; Fri, 20 Mar 1992 11:10:19 +0800 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1992 11:10:19 +0800 From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher) Message-Id: <9203200310.AA18974@wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EDM ... WARNING EDM.....WARNING.....EDM.....WARNING.... Scott here again :-) This is a warning to all people who are using Gary Gieblers EDM program to FORMAT blank disketts. If you use the EDM program to formatt a blank diskette, it places your name and serial number at BLOCK 0 on the diskette. As you all know the EPS format fills side 0 cylinder (track) 0 block 0 with the repeating hex pattern 6D B6. The EDM program takes the oppertunity to fill B-0, T-0, H-0, S-0 with an advert for EDM, which is fine given the EPS never looks at it, good Idea even. BUT I object to it placing my name in this block. I have no problem with my name and serial number appearing on my PC version, but I DO NOT WANT MY NAME ON THE DISKETTES I FORMAT WITH IT. I am writing to Gary Geibler to inform him of this feature. Regards Scott. _______________________________________________________________________________ Scott Fisher [scott@wapsy.uwa.oz] PH: Aus [61] Perth (09) Local (380 3574). _--_|\ N Department of Psychology / \ W + E University of Western Australia. Perth --> *_.--._/ S Nedlands, 6009. PERTH, W.A. v *** ERROR 144 - REBOOT? is a registered trademark of ENSONIQ Corp *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From UALR.EDU!jabussey Sat Mar 21 12:19:52 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Sat, 21 Mar 92 12:18 PST Received: from backup.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU with PMDF#10154; Sat, 21 Mar 1992 14:19 CDT Received: by ualr.edu (MX V3.0) id 3098; Sat, 21 Mar 1992 14:17:56 EST Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1992 14:17:50 EST From: Hard On The Beaver Subject: EPS Sequencer Sender: jabussey@UALR.EDU To: eps@reed.edu Message-id: <00957EAA.98DABD60.3098@ualr.edu> *AHEM* Scott, I have a question for you. When I create a song using compilations of different sequences, why is it that when I try to record on a song track that the song track always comes off beat!!! IS it the software version I have (2.1 I think) or is there something wrong with my EPS (old). Also who knows what the latest version of the EPS software is? Thanks, Jacque From ecn.purdue.edu!davisonj Sat Mar 21 17:26:07 1992 Return-Path: Received: by reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.10) id ; Sat, 21 Mar 92 17:26 PST Received: by en.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.30jrs) id AA19630; Sat, 21 Mar 92 20:25:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 92 20:25:56 -0500 From: davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu (Me! I Disconnect from You) Message-Id: <9203220125.AA19630@en.ecn.purdue.edu> To: eps@reed.edu Subject: EPS song problem >*AHEM* Scott, [not John] > I have a question for you. When I create a song using >compilations of different sequences, why is it that when I try to record >on a song track that the song track always comes off beat!!! IS it the >software version I have (2.1 I think) or is there something wrong with >my EPS (old). Also who knows what the latest version of the EPS software >is? Darned if I know, but mine does the same thing. I think I am using OS 2.1. davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu